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Simpleton1
Simpleton1
2 months ago

Although this is British, can one say that the concepts of suicidal empathy here are not finding a way into New Zealand’s institutions via techno-bureaucrats & politicians?
As politicians espouse the new belief systems with vigourous religiousity.

The Sickening Lies of Britain’s Doomed Elite: Belfast & Nowak
https://youtu.be/jCWZL542qkM
16 mins : 11th June, 2026 : The New Culture Forum : Rafe Heydel-Mankoo

In the wake of the attempted beheading of a Belfast man by a Sudanese asylum seeker and the murder of Henry Nowak, NCF Senior Fellow Rafe Heydel-Mankoo rips into the political and media class who enabled this and continue to gaslight the public.

As the media amplify to help re frame the narrative, & not the actual issues.

From a comment:—
….. elites tell us to keep calm and keep quiet whilst we are being raped and murdered.
Someone is out there living their life today who will be the next victim of their ideology it is beyond devastating to think about. …..
Rinse & repeat, as they continue doubling down;– until, ….

A far left terrorism, that is worked in as Anarchy Terrorism, using proxies found in “blind” ‘kindness’ ‘welcome’ immigration, worked in with DEI belief

They have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.
if we get off our butts & break their controls.

Last edited 2 months ago by Simpleton1
waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  Editor
2 months ago

One of the Southhampton street protesters against the recent murder of Henry Nowak has been jailed for over 3 years. Was it the disabled veteran with 13 metal pins in his leg attacked by police riot shields or was it the man who threw an empty wheely bin at the police line?

Mastermind Lambie has just appointed the woman in charge of appointing judges. She doesn’t believe competence is more important than diversity hires.

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  waikatogirl
2 months ago

Was it the disabled veteran with 13 metal pins in his leg attacked by police riot shields 

Who could not jump as the police wanted, even though he was not doing anything agressively, the police “defensive” riot shields were used continously used as aggresive weapons, even though he was knocked to the ground, & still pounded on.
.
As he is going to defend himself against the charges of being aggressive he is now on remand, and the case will come up in July.

The ones who have been sentenced pleaded guilty.
Bear in mind the wheely rubbish did not hit any one either.

The whole idea is that these sentences, remand is a message to any one out on the streets, protesting & even if not.
So that police are to be obeyed, and anything else can be deemed aggressive.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  Simpleton1
2 months ago

Not sure but one of the charged was said to have a head injury. Not surprised after being kicked and clouted numerous times with riot shields .

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  waikatogirl
2 months ago

sentenced already? meh i call feelz bullshit

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
2 months ago

Oh really!
Fast-tracked “justice” Starmer style just like Lucy Connelly after her tweet over the Southport murder of three little girls.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/southampton-protests-jailed-darren-medhurst-b2994139.html
Bricklayer jailed after lobbing bin at bystander during violent Henry Nowak disorder in Southampton

10 men have been jailed so far over the disorder that saw police officers attacked

Sentencing the three defendants, Judge William Mousley KC said: “I am quite satisfied that this offence is so serious only an immediate term of imprisonment can be applied.”

Last edited 2 months ago by waikatogirl
I am a stupid boy
Reply to  waikatogirl
2 months ago

unreal, but reggin murderers and rapists take several years to sentence?
they need to stop thinking it over a cuppa tea and have some fucking epic riots. soccer hooligan styles but bigger

FJA
FJA
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
2 months ago

Nah. Like I said. Get a small group of people. Lure a couple of coppers somewhere and make them disappear. Then repeat.

Better still, substitute judges and political traitors.

We have become far too nice for our own good. The above would have happened much sooner, decades ago.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Editor
2 months ago

i take my inspiration from your orange hero, never concede youre wrong or youve fucked up bigly even if the whole world knows it

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
2 months ago

Orange Chippy will be impressed he has attracted a follower from Southland. 🤥

Mike Hunty
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
2 months ago

TDS is strong in this one 🫵

Alice
Reply to  Simpleton1
2 months ago

Watched that last night. Rafe is excellent isn’t he!

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  Alice
2 months ago

thanks Alice,
And like PJW shows up the system, those sanctomious politicians, authoritianas seeks to stop anyone complaining, about the issue, to trust they system as they will get it all sorted with some money rorting inquiry.

They do not care about the people who to them are totally expendable as, colllateral damage.
They deviously keep pushing the agenda that we are all the same people, with kindly equivalent cultures, multicultural with DEI sauce.

The pink & green wigs all tumbled when carried through the streets of Paris on tumbrils, as the old ladies in the front seats kept on knitting.

Last edited 2 months ago by Simpleton1
Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Simpleton1
2 months ago

Don’t forget that forever and a day the migrants offspring will rise up suddenly and do the rapey, murdering thing they are renown for on any date in the future years.

Hooker Phil
2 months ago

If we are into all thinks British here is one on their ardern equivalent.

https://x.com/inthetrenchesuk/status/2065030398665523416?s=64&t=-WtupDi8tgq0kPddHRfP8A

Starmer is certainly a piece of shit.

Last edited 2 months ago by Hooker Phil
Komata
Komata
Reply to  Hooker Phil
2 months ago

HP

Yet despite all of that, Starmer STILL refuses to step down, and doesn’t seem to believe that he has actually done anything ‘wrong’!

Willful blindness? Arrogance? Stupidity? Staying because he’s been TOLD to by his (Undefined) masters? All of these (And probably others)?

One wonders what it will take to actually get him out.

Tarquin
2 months ago

Morning all, Chipkins is looking more like Vivian from the young ones by the day.

Viking
Reply to  Tarquin
2 months ago

Far too young to remember that.

Viking
2 months ago
  • US President Donald Trump announced a “great settlement” with Iran to end the Middle East war, saying he expected a deal to be signed in Europe in the coming days.
  • US Vice ⁠President JD Vance ⁠will attend a US-Iran ​deal signing, ‌which is expected ‌to ​take ⁠place in Europe ⁠this ​weekend.
  • Iran is considering adding economic interests and infrastructure linked to Elon Musk across the Middle East and Israel to its list of potential targets, according to Iranian state-linked media.
  • Oil prices tumbled while US stocks surged after US President Donald Trump cancelled military strikes on Iran and teased a possible peace deal.

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07:48 am
‘It’ll be fascinating to find out what concessions [Trump] made in order to do so’
US President Donald Trump has learned one of the best ways to dial down tensions and boost the stock market is to claim a peace deal is on the table, political commentator Dan Schnur says.
He told Mike Morrah on Ryan Bridge Today that if Trump’s latest claim of an imminent deal is true, “it’ll be fascinating to find out what concessions he made in order to do so”.
“If not, this may be one more in a series of temporary slowdowns to be followed by another acceleration in the days ahead.”
Iran’s leaders are very spread out and isolated, which is an obstacle to negotiations.
“It normally has taken an immense amount of time to deliver messages to them and get their responses. To get such a fast response on this occasion suggests that this might be preliminary encouraging signs.”
However Trump could just be trying to reassure his voters ahead of November’s mid-term elections, Schnur said – he had told Fox News last night he thought Americans might not have the appetite for a long war.

07:44 am
Vance will sign deal with Iranians this weekend in Europe, says Trump
More from Donald Trump in the White House. he says that Vice ⁠President JD Vance ⁠will attend a US-Iran ​deal signing, ‌which is expected ‌to ​take ⁠place in Europe ⁠this ​weekend.
He also says that the Strait of Hormuz will be opened as soon as the deal is signed.
– Daily Telegraph UK 

07:43 am
Trump says ‘great settlement’ made with Iran
US President Donald Trump announced a “great settlement” with Iran to end the Middle East war, saying he expected a deal to be signed in Europe in the coming days.
“We just made a great settlement of the war with Iran,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office, saying that they would “subject to finalization of documents, which should get done, over the next few days, probably have a signing, maybe in Europe.”
– AFP 

07:43 am
Likelihood of Iran accepting deal is ‘high,’ says Iranian state news
There are further signs that Tehran may be moving closer to accepting a US-backed agreement.
Iran’s semi-official Fars news agency reported that, because Washington had accepted a text proposed by Iran, “the likelihood of this text being approved by Iran is high.”
Only a short time ago, Fars appeared to pour cold water on Trump’s claims a deal was near, saying that no text had yet been approved.
– Daily Telegraph UK 

07:42 am

Israelis ‘haven’t been informed of any deal’
Reports from Israel appear to contradict Donald Trump’s claim that an imminent US-Iran agreement has already been approved by the Israeli government.
A senior Israeli official told Channel 12 News that Benjamin Netanyahu’s government had not been informed of any finalised deal between Washington and Tehran.
CNN separately quoted a senior Israeli official as saying they were not aware of any impending agreement, nor of any Israeli approval for such a deal. 
– Daily Telegraph UK 

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Viking
2 months ago

is it a peace deal or the original 60 day extension?

the world will believe it when the straight remains fully open for a few weeks.
trump is desperate as fark to get it done, be interesting how much more he gives them than obama did… im guessing tens of billions with which i hope they purchase a nuke with 🤣
theyll have a nuke within 10yrs now, trump demonstrated its no longer a desire but a necessity to their survival.

Last edited 2 months ago by I am a stupid boy
Hooker Phil
2 months ago

Hey S.B. – It’s getting hard to keep up with who doing or not doing what.

The U.S. military launched a fresh wave of strikes against multiple targets in Iran on Wednesday evening after President Donald Trump warned Tehran would “pay the price” for dragging out negotiations aimed at ending the conflict.
“U.S. Central Command forces began launching additional self-defense strikes today at 5:15 p.m. ET against multiple targets in Iran at the Commander in Chief’s direction,” CENTCOM announced in a statement. “The strikes are in response to Iran’s unwarranted and continued aggression.”

And then:

“President Donald Trump told Fox News correspondent Trey Yingst on Wednesday that Iranian officials directly contacted Trump and asked the United States to halt its ongoing bombing campaign against Iran.
Yingst said the president discussed the bombing campaign, negotiations with Tehran, and the possibility of additional military action if Iran rejects a proposed agreement. Yingst added that Trump said Iran sought an end to the strikes while U.S. forces continued targeting military infrastructure.

There you go, guess it is just all Orange Man bad.

Saggy
Reply to  Hooker Phil
2 months ago

I can’t keep up. Two headlines this morning – Peace Deal going to be signed, and Trump considering boots on the ground. I just ignore everything now.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Saggy
2 months ago

pretty much sagz, unless youre one of trumps insider trading mates you wouldnt bet money on anything.

i just googled it and theres about 300 pieces that popped up of the exact same thing ranging from 5mins old to 1½months old

take it with a grain of salt… but if youve been doing that every time youll be running low on salt!

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Editor
2 months ago

dont even give them the idea Ed, fuck the cnuts. remember when they wanted the wind ffs

Saggy
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
2 months ago

Wind is something they go plenty of.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Saggy
2 months ago

Out both ends!

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
2 months ago

Rub the salt in their wounds.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Hooker Phil
2 months ago

well its approaching a weekend… taco usually does or says outrageous shit before a weekend to get markets going so he and his mates make another few hundred million. its been a very clear pattern.

i hope hes not full of shit and it gets sorted cuz i sure as hell dont want $7 fuel and a guaranteed labour govt in nov… but i wont be holding my breath

Viking
2 months ago

It turns out Mike Hosking doesn’t even need to be in the country to press the buttons of some of his fiercest broadcasting rivals. He can do it from almost 18,000km away.
The Newstalk ZB breakfast host snared the coveted award for best presenter (talk/drive), for the fourth year in a row, at last week’s NZ Radio & Podcast Awards.
He beat a stacked field, including RNZ Morning Report co-hosts Corin Dann and Ingrid Hipkiss, Checkpoint’s Lisa Owen, and his ZB colleague Heather du Plessis-Allan.
Hosking has been on leave overseas for the past fortnight and beamed into the NZ International Convention Centre auditorium via a pre-recorded video acceptance speech from Edinburgh, Scotland.

“… I hope that tonight, so far, has been culturally appropriate because no one loves a culturally appropriate ceremony like I do,” said Hosking.

The throwaway line was in keeping with the overall tone of his speech – and appeared to be received by many in that context – but at least one high-profile broadcaster in the audience was distinctly unimpressed, Media Insider understands.
RNZ Morning Report co-host John Campbell – he replaced Dann in April, outside of the awards period – took exception to the remark, sources say.

As guests streamed out of the auditorium, Campbell was overheard labelling Hosking’s “culturally appropriate” comment as a “disgrace”.

That was confirmed by another source, although RNZ did not respond to a direct question about the comment, and declined a Media Insider request to speak to Campbell.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/media-insider/media-insider-awards-swipe-john-campbell-v-mike-hosking-jason-momoa-exits-hollywood-blockbuster-in-nz-hbo-max-boss-on-nz-entry-tvnzs-world-cup-plans/premium/7ZNWZ57PBJEXZHMS5XZOL24Y64/

and his employers think he will be good for their business. They need sacking as well.

Instead, a spokeswoman deployed a masterclass in public relations diplomacy – both a polite defence and a subtle counter-punch.
“RNZ’s team who attended the New Zealand Radio & Podcast Awards valued the opportunity to celebrate colleagues,” she said.

“It was a great event, from the karakia and mihi that opened the evening to the banter and commentary throughout the night.

Last edited 2 months ago by Viking
Tarquin
Reply to  Viking
2 months ago

I’m even more injured after reading that. I and my teddy bear are off to my safe place to have a gentle cry and a couple of karakia recitals, I know I’ll come back stronger, more pompous and definitely woker after this terrible incident. You’ll never get rid of me!

Viking
Reply to  Tarquin
2 months ago

d a couple of karakia rectals

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Viking
2 months ago

youd love to think the last part was trolling hoskings but you know damn well its not.

fucking losers. i bet next to john cambells shrine of himself he has a smaller shrine to some maori bullshit.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
2 months ago

Bet he has a shrine to chippy as well!
May have to replace his photo with a new one of the grinny ninny looking like a dick, he is!

Tarquin
Reply to  Sooty
2 months ago

Nothing wrong with a Chippy shrine, I keep it next to my signed photo of Chloe and my lock of hair from her moustache. I’m not one for gossip but I’m told Luxcinda has a similar collection. They give me so much inspiration in these troubled times, I just can’t recommend them enough.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Tarquin
2 months ago

How on earth did you get a lock of hair from her moustache,
I would have thought you would have more luck getting a lock of hair from her minge!

Komata
Komata
2 months ago

This article by one Chris Wood (and appearing under the New Zealand Political Discussion and Research Group banner), arrived in my FB page this morning. After reading it, the phrase ‘A wolf in sheep’s clothing’; DID come to mind and on that basis I’ve posted it here. Hopefully, some might find it of interest..

‘Are all children of equal value in NZ, or does race matter more?

I have been looking into issues related to children recently and was looking at what those in leadership positions think. One such person is Dr Claire Achmad (Claire) the New Zealand Children’s Commissioner.

Claire shared want she wanted to advocate for when she took up the role. She talked about groups of mokopuna who are experiencing a particular disadvantage in Aotearoa;

“Māori, Pacific, whaikaha, rainbow, resettled, all of the evidence shows that far too often these are the mokopuna we are letting down”.

But when she said ‘we are letting these children down’ what she really meant was she is not holding the families of these children responsible or the children concerned but wider society. Ok so we are ignoring why these children are struggling and focusing on who is struggling. Claire also said;

“…in five years time, I want to be able to look back and think, yeah, I’ve contributed something to get us on that trajectory… for Māori, Pacific, Whaikaha, rainbow. I want them to be safe while being who they are. For our mokopuna Māori, I really want to see the promise of Te Tiriti o Waitangi in action for those mokopuna and their whānau.”

Hold on Claire is supposed to be the Children’s Commissioner for ALL CHILDREN but I notice there is zero mention of Pakeha, Asians or straight children, despite them being the majority of children in NZ.

And what exactly is she planning to do for Māori, Pacific, Whaikaha and rainbow people? Is she saying they are going to get the bulk of her time, efforts and government resourcing?

Also what exactly does ‘seeing the promise of Te Tiriti o Waitangi in action for those mokopuna and their whānau’, actually mean?
What does Claire think the promise means in action?

Is this an example of the Children’s Commissioner, and her office, using ‘intersectionality’ to decide who is, and who is not, important and should get priority funding and focus?

I would have thought the Children’s Commissioner would talk about ALL CHILDREN rather than a select few. To my mind ‘need’ is far more important than race or ideological thinking?

So I’m starting to think the Children’s Commissioner, and her office, does not think all children are of equal value, and race matters more….’

Last edited 2 months ago by Komata
I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Komata
2 months ago

mr wood cant be too bright if that last para is his?
its been obvious for a long time that pretty much ANY public sector thing puts one race above all else.

The Ancient Hooligan
Reply to  Komata
2 months ago

I am buggered if I know why Claire is prattling on about this “Child Poverty and Disadvantaged Mokopuna” shit.

As far as I am aware, Jacinda Ardern fixed this all in 2017. How do I know this, well Cindy said that is what she was going to do and I believed her.//

I am a stupid boy
2 months ago

if reform or whoever in the uk pledged to arm every citizen with one of those sweet anti beheading devices it would be an election winner.

here in nz tho they would be deemed to be too closely resembling hi tech maori weaponry from their stone age existence.
would be highly offensive for whitey to own and any produced would have to be done so exlusively by maori at 300k per piece for the highest quality iwi imported temu plastic junk, plus lets not forget the 500k gifting ceremonies and blessings of such “gifts”

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
2 months ago

Maori are centuries out for being able to claim design of anything representing the ancient Celtic hurling stick.

Wiki
“Early forms of hurling have been played since at least the Middle Ages, with the earliest written references appearing in Irish law tracts from the seventh century. The earliest archaeological evidence dates from the twelfth-century.”

Last edited 2 months ago by waikatogirl
nasska
Reply to  waikatogirl
2 months ago

Pfft. Maori were doing laps of Antarctica in their waka when Adam was playing fullback for the Jews.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  nasska
2 months ago

Towing waterslides at the same time too!
Bait for the killer whales.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Editor
2 months ago

twice in a morning Ed… dont give the fuckers ideas

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Editor
2 months ago

my bad, i shall now get 100 lashings by a rolled up version of the almighty treaty.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
2 months ago

Or the ten dollar notes from yesterday.
Wonder if she had the teeth filed down?

Curious
Reply to  Editor
2 months ago

I did a rough calculation and worked out our tax bill would go up by a huge amount under their tax policy at least until they crashed property prices anyway.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Editor
2 months ago

craziness but ….
youre only looking at the tax part. most households its zero sum or a positive esp if you own.
rents will increase by hundreds of dollars per week tho and if their ubi replaces nat super then retired are worse off too.

for say a working couple, house valued 800k = 12k tax but 41600 returned. im guessing income tax applies too but the ubi would cover the tax and probs most of the mortage.
same goes for renters too, there could be 3 or 4 ubi recipients in said rental, more then enough to cover the huge increase in rent.

the retarded thing is inflation. everything goes up comercially and rentvwise to pay the tax…. then theres a bunch of kiwis with thousands of other peoples money just itching to blow it.
what happens when too much money in the system? 1. inflation 2. council/govt will just find a way to hoover up every last cent of “free money”… i rekon council rates will jump 20-30% to suck it all up.

Curious
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
2 months ago

Tax Rates start at 28% after the ubi to 50k then to 34% with the highest 37%. Pensioners would be the hardest hit especially those with just Super and no extra savings. Pure socialism which over time would transfer ownership of properties to the state.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Curious
2 months ago

they propose the 400bux and getting rid of a bunch of winz type jobs, will super or the dole even exist still?(personally i hope not)

im pretty sure thats their intention but then theres the rest of the bene add ons so guess the rort will continue.

i bet a rent cap will come with it aswell.
just needs mass landlord revolt and make a million or so homeless kiwis and threaten to wipe out the banks in the process.
home owners have a hell of alot of power if this ever comes to fruition, theyd just have to all work together on it and pretty much mutiny a govt

Tarquin
Reply to  Editor
2 months ago

Why would anyone vote for TOP? They’re just like the Greens but slightly cleaner, better dressed and just as deranged.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  Tarquin
2 months ago

Wellington luuvies, champagne socialists who can afford champagne.
Greens are more rum and coke and beer budget socialists

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Tarquin
2 months ago

id say theyre more derranged but just better at hiding it which is what makes them dangerous.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
2 months ago

Britain is on the brink. Will Starmer have to be airlifted out of Downing Street for his own safety?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wMApyfl5Rk
🚨UK CITIES BURN FOR 3RD NIGHT WITH STARMER GOVERNMENT IN TOTAL CRISIS AS DEFENCE SECRETARY QUITS🚨
Dan Wootton Outspoken

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: The UK is in total crisis as cities burn for a second night in a row as the country’s Defence Secretary John Healey dramatically quits Slippery Starmer’s government because the PM will not spend enough money to keep us safe but will spend money on illegal immigrants who try to behead us on the streets. …

Last edited 2 months ago by waikatogirl
Curious
Reply to  waikatogirl
2 months ago

This news must be all over the Horrid & Stuffed./////

FJA
FJA
Reply to  waikatogirl
2 months ago

The nerve of that woman calling Tommy Robinson a keyboard warrior.

I hope some clackbunt gives her a first-hand appreciation of cultural diversity.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  FJA
2 months ago

“It’s the Russian’s, Putin working with Tommy”
The left are nuts

Mike Hunty
Reply to  FJA
2 months ago

clackbunt has a TM attached. You have to pay me to use it. My bank account number is…

FJA
FJA
Reply to  Mike Hunty
2 months ago

Sorry Hunty. Is “Jooooooze” trademarked as well?

I’ll use jogger next time. 👍

Mike Hunty
Reply to  FJA
2 months ago

I think Kea owns Jooooze. But he disappeared, so I guess you own it if ya want it. But TM it. Now, for a small fee, I can get that done for ya. 😉 What?

FJA
FJA
Reply to  Mike Hunty
2 months ago

Not heard of joggers? How about mudsharks?

Viking
2 months ago

Collective Evolution 
 

Last month, while a judge in a Paris courtroom finished reading her verdict, police walked over and arrested Bruno Lafont. He’s 69, the former CEO of Lafarge, the largest cement manufacturer in the world. He’s now serving a 6 year prison sentence, and his former second-in-command is serving 5.
When corporations cause real harm in pursuit of profit, when they poison rivers, flood communities with deadly drugs, or fund violence to keep a factory running, the typical outcome is a fine. The company pays out, the executives keep their jobs or retire quietly or move on to a board seat somewhere else, and almost no one personally goes to prison. We see this massively in the pharmaceutical field.
But this ruling may change things moving forward.
What Lafarge actually did
Between 2013 and 2014, as Syria collapsed into civil war, Lafarge paid roughly 6.5 million dollars to ISIS and two other groups designated as terror organizations. The payments bought safe passage through ISIS checkpoints, which meant the company’s Syrian cement plant could keep running and keep generating revenue. 
Nobel laureate Nadia Murad and more than 400 other Yazidi survivors, all of them American citizens, eventually sued Lafarge directly. Their argument was that the company’s payments helped finance the genocide of the Yazidi people, the mass executions, the sexual slavery, the abduction of thousands of women and children. 
According to the lawsuit, Lafarge’s own cement was even used to construct the underground tunnels and bunkers where ISIS held Yazidi hostages captive.
While the European staff at the plant were evacuated to safety, the Syrian workers were told to keep working, crossing checkpoints under sniper fire, risking kidnapping, showing up to a job inside an active war zone because the cement had to keep flowing.
The judge, in delivering her verdict, said something that has stayed with me since I read it. “I am trying to make you understand,” she told the executives, “how choices made in your offices, thousands of kilometers away, turned into Kalashnikov bullets, into blood.”
This level of downline thinking is what responsibility looks like. It’s what we have been trying to offer to our readers for 17 years, the idea that as a culture, we have to think more deeply about what we’re creating and what effects it has downline, vs. thinking about more short term gratifications.
In defense, Lafont told the court he hadn’t read the emails documenting the payments. His exact line, which I cannot improve on, was “I’m not a child of the internet.” His former deputy was more direct in that he admitted in court that the groups receiving the payments had been described, in writing, as “hard-core terrorists,” and that he kept authorizing payments to them anyway. When the judge pressed him, he said they had a choice between two bad options. The judge asked, “The worst one and the less bad one?” “Exactly,” he replied.
Translated out of legalese, the defense was not surprisingly: “We were faced with losing profit or funding terror, and we chose the less expensive option for the company.” 
These types of decisions are being made all over the place in our world within it’s current design. CEO’s follow incentive and fiduciary responsibility, which in essence provides them plausible deniability in most cases. 
To be clear, this isn’t really a story about individually wicked men, it’s a story about a system that trains its decision-makers to weigh two things on the same scale and choose whichever one protects revenue. The race to the bottom logic baked into modern incentive structures is doing a lot of the moral work here, long before any individual executive signs off on a payment.
The court ultimately did not buy the CEO’s story and Judge Isabelle Prévost-Desprez called the conduct “stunningly cynical.” She fined the company €1.12 million, ordered the confiscation of €30 million in assets, and sent the executives to prison.
Why this matters more than the fine
To understand why this verdict is a big deal, you have to understand what hasn’t been happening for the last eight decades.
The most directly comparable case goes back to 1947, when executives of I.G. Farben, the German chemical company that supplied the gas used in Nazi concentration camps, were tried at Nuremberg. Most were acquitted. The few who were convicted received light sentences that were quietly commuted not long after. The legal precedent that a corporation and its leaders could be criminally accountable for the violence their products enabled was established, and then more or less left to sit on a shelf for 80 years.
In the meantime, when corporations have been found liable for harming people, the standard response has been a fine. In many cases, those fines get absorbed as a normal cost of doing business, paid out of one revenue stream while the rest keep flowing untouched. 
When the fines get big enough to actually threaten profit, the response has often been overwhelming retaliation against whoever is fighting for justice. Chevron, for example, spent roughly 2 billion dollars dragging out a legal war against the lawyer who beat them in Ecuadorian court for poisoning the Amazon.
A fine is a transaction, but a prison sentence is something else entirely. It changes who, personally, is on the line, and that changes the way companies will operate form there on out. The system needs accountability, or else incentives will always win out.
The good news is that this verdict is a real crack in the assumption that corporate decision-makers can operate at a safe altitude above the consequences of what their companies actually do in the world.
But here is where I want to slow down a little, because there’s a fair question that still needs to be asked here:
Why did this one end in prison sentences when Chevron in Ecuador didn’t? When Purdue Pharma’s executives walked? Or Pfizer’s or Monsanto’s or Big Tobacco’s? 
One honest part of the answer is that Lafarge’s payments helped fund a network that eventually killed French civilians on French soil. That made the politics of prosecution very different from the politics of poisoning Indigenous rivers in the Amazon, or flooding rural American towns with opioids, or any number of other harms that fall outside what Western states are willing to call a serious crime. 
The legal systems we have are largely the same ones that have historically protected capital’s right to extract from communities deemed expendable.
So this verdict is a real step forward, and at the same time, it’s a reminder of where the line currently sits for who gets protected and who doesn’t. Both things can be true. The win is real, and the asymmetry is real, and pretending otherwise is just another way of not seeing the situation clearly.
What’s next
A few related cases are already moving. Starting in July of this year, EU member states will require large companies to identify and address human rights and environmental harms across their supply chains, with actual consequences for failure. 
Last October, a federal jury in New York found BNP Paribas liable for aiding atrocities in Sudan. The Lundin Oil trial in Sweden, which looks structurally similar to Lafarge, is expected to deliver a verdict soon. The next Lafarge trial, this one on charges of complicity in crimes against humanity, will likely follow.
There is also reasonable concern about backlash. A US administration that has sanctioned a UN rapporteur for documenting corporate complicity in Gaza, presided over a 660 million dollar verdict against Greenpeace for opposing an oil pipeline, and dismantled large parts of the EPA’s regulatory powers is not going to quietly accept a wave of accountability rulings.
The process of accountability is not fast or easy. I’ve been doing this work for 17 years and most of the stories I’ve followed or talked about don’t end up in real accountability. Pfizer’s C0VID vax trials were fraudulent, we’re not even talking about that anymore. Look at the lack of Epstein network accountability. This isn’t meant to get us down, but to realie the power of the system at hand and maintain our sense of resilience in working toward a better world.
Ultimately, this all has to still move through courtrooms, through journalism, through people who are willing to spend years pressing on a story that powerful interests would much rather have buried. None of those tools is sufficient on its own, but together, slowly, they shift what powerful people can get away with.
The good news is, the judge in Paris drew a line that hasn’t really been drawn in 80 years, and that line now exists. What we choose to build on top of it is the next question.

By Joe Martino, founder CE 
https://insights.collective-evolution.com/

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FJA
FJA
Reply to  Viking
2 months ago

‘Translated out of legalese, the defense was not surprisingly: “We were faced with losing profit or funding terror, and we chose the less expensive option for the company.”’

Just losing profit? They exposed their employees to sniper fire, FFS.

Perhaps part of the execs’ punishment should be completing an assault course under live fire conditions.

Sooty
Sooty
2 months ago

Top photo needs a pretty bow in the hair, to go with the frilly knickers!

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Editor
2 months ago

With an attached dildo inside the frilly knickers.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
2 months ago

Corina Shields — better known online as Aunty Heihei

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwHAPEGqPfw
Corina Shields: “Te Pāti Māori Doesn’t Speak For All Of Us” | Free to Speak
Free Speech Union New Zealand

“I have always been the big-mouth Māori that says things we’re not supposed to say.”

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Mike Hunty
2 months ago

I hear a rumour Ardern is making a comeback?

tnuC
tnuC
Reply to  Mike Hunty
2 months ago

cumback…. out of an old beer bottle and a siev ?

plenty duffed nannies round the neighbourhood i guess..
…be running down their legs anyway

Why doesn’t she just get i’m neutered or tie i’m up at night… e’ll get friction burns again….

e’ll set the fucken thing on fire ffs
smell like a burn-out pad..but with heaps white smoke

… they’ll have to leave town again !
…fuck ‘the tanks empty’ !!!

tnuC
tnuC
2 months ago

$$ social engineering $$
feast the left

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
2 months ago

The Irish are showing their displeasure to their overlords

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PeMAKUTFvTE
The People are Speaking
short

Mike Hunty
Reply to  waikatogirl
2 months ago

Good job. How ya goin WG. 💐

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  Mike Hunty
2 months ago

Cold as charity today with heavy grey cloud so NO sunshine at all to warm the day but homemade hearty pea ‘n ham soup for lunch. Delicious comfort food
🥶🍲

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Mike Hunty
Reply to  waikatogirl
2 months ago

32 here 😅⛱️🌴🏄‍♂️

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Mike Hunty
2 months ago

Skitting bastard. I hope ya dick gets sunburnt!

Mike Hunty
Reply to  Sooty
2 months ago

It’ll get more than that tonight, my friend..

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
2 months ago

President Trump stops Commiefornia with Federal Mail regulations

https://rumble.com/v7b5170-trump-drops-bombshell-that-just-blew-up-the-democrats-corruption.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
Trump Drops BOMBSHELL That Just BLEW UP the Democrats CORRUPTION!!!Dr Steve Turley

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nasska
2 months ago

During a company’s annual family trip to a crocodile farm in Queensland the eccentric boss dared any of his employees to jump into the reptile infested pond & swim to the other side. Anyone who survived the swim will be rewarded with 5 million but if killed by the crocs 2 million will be given to the next of kin. For a long period of time there was no movement as no one dared take up the challenge.

Then suddenly a man jumped in & swam frantically for his life towards shore pursued by the crocs & luckily he made it unscathed.

When he managed to recover his breath the man, who became instant millionaire, shouted asking who pushed him into the pond. Turned out it was his wife who did it.

And that was how the phrase… “behind every successful man…there’s a woman”…came about !

Mike Hunty
2 months ago
Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Mike Hunty
2 months ago

No just in jail!

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
2 months ago

Reports from Trump Iran is ready to sign an agreement in the next few days might be on the skids again.

It says Iran Embassy just posted this:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vRV81LASMWc
We stopped a nuclear attack
short

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nasska
2 months ago

We’re doomed! Doomed I tell you & the apocalypse is nigh! The world is ending & we have only limited time to try and find a way off the planet.

It seems that is the medium term weather forecast at https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360991880/its-been-nicknamed-godzilla-what-does-latest-el-nino-mean-new-zealand

#. “Yes, nature’s chaotic climate agent that experts around the world have nicknamed “Godzilla” has formed again, in a warmed-up Pacific Ocean that scientists expect will grow to historic strengths.”

Hmmm. “Historic”. That’s a new one. But it gets worse:

#. “El Niño, a natural warming cycle, should further heat a globe already warming from fossil fuel pollution, and will likely turbocharge extreme weather across the planet, in what the United Nations is calling an “urgent climate warning”.

There you have it. Turbo-charged doom. Tarquin was right all along.

Starving Artist
Starving Artist
Reply to  nasska
2 months ago

Global boiling! Unprecedented! Catastrophic! Plant food will kill us all!

Saggy
Reply to  nasska
2 months ago

Well I wish it would hurry up. Bloody chilly in these here parts.

Curious
Reply to  nasska
2 months ago

Yea I wasted a couple of minutes reading that on Stuffed. My problem now is that I am too old to be able to bend over and kiss my arse goodbye.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
2 months ago

Basically no change

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjU7d1w7NEc
The Latest Political Opinion Poll And Its Surprising Nuances

Michael Laws takes a look

Last edited 2 months ago by waikatogirl
nasska
Reply to  Editor
2 months ago

It’s a good job that it wasn’t the Small Faces who had the munchies!

Viking
2 months ago

M.A. Rothman
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𝐀𝐌𝐄𝐑𝐈𝐂𝐀𝐍 𝐅𝐈𝐒𝐇𝐄𝐑𝐌𝐄𝐍 𝐖𝐄𝐑𝐄 𝐁𝐀𝐍𝐍𝐄𝐃 𝐅𝐑𝐎𝐌 𝐇𝐀𝐋𝐅 𝐀 𝐌𝐈𝐋𝐋𝐈𝐎𝐍 𝐒𝐐𝐔𝐀𝐑𝐄 𝐌𝐈𝐋𝐄𝐒 𝐎𝐅 𝐔𝐒 𝐖𝐀𝐓𝐄𝐑𝐒 — 𝐓𝐑𝐔𝐌𝐏 𝐉𝐔𝐒𝐓 𝐄𝐍𝐃𝐄𝐃 𝐈𝐓
“500,000 𝘴𝘲𝘶𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘮𝘪𝘭𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘈𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘧𝘪𝘴𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘮𝘦𝘯. 𝘠𝘰𝘶 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘯’𝘵 𝘨𝘰 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘧𝘪𝘴𝘩. 𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘧 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘩𝘢𝘥 𝘢𝘯 𝘈𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘧𝘭𝘢𝘨, 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘸𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯’𝘵 𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦. 𝘉𝘶𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘴𝘦, 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘣𝘰𝘥𝘺 𝘦𝘭𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦𝘯𝘵. 𝘚𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘸𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘪𝘯 𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘸𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘴. 𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘸𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘴.”
Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick broke down what the Biden administration actually did to the American commercial fishing industry. 𝐇𝐚𝐥𝐟 𝐚 𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐬𝐪𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐔.𝐒. 𝐨𝐜𝐞𝐚𝐧 — 𝐰𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐀𝐦𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐟𝐚𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐢𝐞𝐬 𝐡𝐚𝐝 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐠𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 — 𝐥𝐨𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐨𝐟𝐟 𝐭𝐨 𝐚𝐧𝐲 𝐛𝐨𝐚𝐭 𝐟𝐥𝐲𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚𝐧 𝐀𝐦𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐟𝐥𝐚𝐠. Foreign fleets? No problem. They kept coming, fishing our waters while American fishermen watched from the dock.
𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐥𝐭 𝐰𝐚𝐬 𝐞𝐱𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐥𝐲 𝐰𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐲𝐨𝐮’𝐝 𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐭: the United States, one of the most fisheries-rich nations on earth with coastline on two oceans and the Gulf of Mexico, became a seafood importer. We started buying fish from abroad that we could have caught ourselves. “𝘏𝘰𝘸 𝘤𝘳𝘢𝘻𝘺 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵?” Lutnick asked. Crazy if you believe America’s maritime economy matters. Perfectly rational if your goal is to kneecap it on behalf of radical environmentalist groups who’ve never held a fishing rod.
President Trump signed the executive order today restoring full access to those 500,000 square miles. 𝐋𝐮𝐭𝐧𝐢𝐜𝐤: “𝐚 𝐦𝐚𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐯𝐞 𝐰𝐢𝐧 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐟𝐢𝐬𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧, 𝐦𝐚𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐯𝐞 𝐰𝐢𝐧 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐰𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐭 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐞𝐬.” The processors. The ports. The coastal towns that have lived on the water for a hundred years. All of it recovering — because one president finally told the radical environmentalists no.
America already has 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘴𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘳𝘶𝘭𝘦𝘴 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘭𝘥. What Biden piled on wasn’t conservation. 𝐈𝐭 𝐰𝐚𝐬 𝐩𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐡𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐥𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐝 𝐨𝐧 𝐩𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐡𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 — “𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘰𝘱 𝘰𝘧 𝘢𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘰𝘱 𝘰𝘧 𝘢𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳.” Gone.
𝐋𝐞𝐭’𝐬 𝐞𝐚𝐭 𝐟𝐢𝐬𝐡 𝐜𝐚𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐛𝐲 𝐀𝐦𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐬 𝐢𝐧 𝐀𝐦𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐰𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬. 𝐂𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐨𝐧 𝐬𝐞𝐧𝐬𝐞

Curious
Reply to  Viking
2 months ago

Hope HP is ok Chiefs just hammered the crusaders 49-12.

Hooker Phil
Reply to  Curious
2 months ago

A big first half sealed that game. One day I may work out why when you get the ball…..you kick it back to them. Hope Chiefs win the final as don’t like Wellington/Hurricanes.

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