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Went to the meeting in Te Rapa last night. David Seymour was speaking . There were about 30 -40 people there to hear what he had to say.

I was very impressed at how good he was at getting his message across. No ambiguous bullshit, just straight talking about our freedom of speech and the potential to lose it.

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    • There were quite a few first timers there, they are having a relaunch on the 16th June.

      David practiced his speech on us. If the damn stools hadn’t been so uncomfortable it would have been more enjoyable.
      No-one likes cold steel.

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  1. Certainly got my party vote. If 200,000 pissed of firearms owners (ex owners I should say) thought about giving him their vote there would be a huge difference in our politics.

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  2. Who else is there in New Zealand that represents personal liberty? You’re either going to be saddled with Labour + Greens flavour of authoritarian communism or National’s flavour of authoritarian socialism. Either way, you’re ending up with a government that wants to take more money out of your pocket and spend it in their own name on their pet causes. And no thank you, I’d rather make my own choices.

    But two ticks yellow sounds a bit naff, doesn’t it?

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    • But two ticks yellow sounds a bit naff, doesn’t it?

      Don’t verbalise it and no one will ever know.

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      • The problem is unless enough people vote for them is it going too take enough votes of National to let another party in to take the seat and I would rather not have that! But do you have to hold your nose and say stuff it, what will be, will be!

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  3. Mr Seymour’s stance on freedom of speech pretty much makes up for his previous pro-islam immigrants comments that almost saw me abandon ACT.

    He, as a liberal (albeit a right-wing liberal), must be doing something right to attract conservatives.

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    • He was asked about Moslems last night. He said they are not a problem. That they are a minority.
      As for him being a right wing liberal, at least he has stayed one. National have shifted away to the left of centre fighting for the same votes as Liarbour.

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      • I agree on Mr Seymour’s consistency but disagree on one thing.

        National have not shifted away to the left, they have in my lifetime at least, with the exception when the great and good Ruth created a bloody great leap right that was unfortunately only temporary, been left in financial matters.

        National are, however, pragmatic in other political spheres, supporting freedom of action far more than their oppressive sisters further left.

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        • Yeah but at what cost? They have lost their way as far as protecting our freedom of speech. Judith Collins lost any support I might have had, when she supported Golly G and threw David Seymour under the bus. Is she Cindy’s aunt? Same virtue signalling.

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          • There are, of course, a lot of people who never supported, nor trusted Collins, including, believe it or not, some National supporters.

            I admit I have not been a National voter (except for once) since the advent of MMP but was considering a change until National’s abject failure to stand up during the events following March 15.

            Based on what I have read and those I have talked to ACT may face a revival – something NZ needs for the return of democracy to our shores.

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            • In the last election I voted for ACT but I have voted for National numerous times in the past (I couldn’t bring myself to vote for Bill English). I was going to give my 2020 vote to National but after the Ides of March, I’m staying with ACT.

              Even though I disdain their immigration policy, ACT is as far as I’m concerned the least worst political party at the moment.

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              • English was pretty useless wasn’t he.
                He waited nearly 3 decades in parliament to be PM and when he got there he was a whimper.
                The result in 2002 was justified on this.
                English has the characteristics of a COO – Chief Operating Officer – and not a CEO.
                He only became visible in the 6 weeks up to the election and then it was too late.
                He had 8 months to make a mark- Nada. Not a sausage.

                Contrast to Norm Kirk – agree with his policies or not, he had a mere 20 months before he died in office and he pushed through a lot of legislation.
                Kirk was a man on a mission. I suspect English was at the Mission vineyard!
                It is like he died in office in Dec 2016 and the election campaign was a Weekend at Bernies.

                The thing that gets me is he was around so long and was unable to deliver.
                There should be Term Limits on all forms of Paid elected Service.
                Council, regional council and central Govt.
                A Maximum 18 years in any particular level of Govt and 25 years in total.
                If you can’t make a difference in that time, move on.
                Move on anyway.
                Look at the Wellington Regional council – a bunch of old hacks who have been around for decades in various electoral gravy trains and a combined age of 7254!
                All that ‘experience’ and they are an utterly hopeless bunch of rotting greens.

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                • From memory English did as well as Mr Key did the previous election.

                  What changed was the scum who voted Winston (because they knew better) and the racists.

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      • He needs to “gently schooled” into learning more about islam.

        The effects of the abrogation verses, in the koran.
        The war lord lifestyle of Mohammad as found in the hadiths.
        The mind control as exemplified in the sunnah.

        The history of islamic invasions, how it waxes and wanes, but never freely relinquishes control.
        The psychology of muslims as shown by a Dane, Nicolai Sennels

        Plenty of good books, videos, which articulate very well about the problems with in islam and its inherent ideology.

        A risk he may convert, 🙁 but many that convert are usually out of it and with much knowledge of the intricacies and goals of islam after 2 – 3 years, and then know personally the problems of apostasy. 🙂

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        • David Seymour is well aware of what is happening in Paris and London but has not joined the dots that once numbers increase, eventually the same situation will happen in NZ. We came to NZ for a better life, we built the culture we have now and it is an amazing place to grow up and live. We do not wish or need to have our kiwi culture manipulated by a religious sect who have no trouble taking advantage of their host countries for their own ends.

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          • What people like Seymour need to understand is that Left wing governments are keen to flood Western nations with people from 3rd world shitholes because 3rd worlders stereotypically vote for “free stuff”. This is the route to power for Leftists. We know this, because prior to 2016 and Trump, they were openly bragging about the demographic shift.

            If Seymour would stop acting clueless over this, it would help.

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          • The Austrians have come up with a simple solution – wearing a hijab in public attracts a fine – result Layla:(Meaning Nighttime -the only time you get a good look at her) won’t go outside so Abdullah has to do the shopping and hang the washing out. Consequences Layla becomes such a useless asset and presses Abdullah to return to an Islamic shithole.

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  4. David’s right that they are a tiny minority. They have become darlings of the very hypocritical left- there lies the problem. I think Act will gain a lot of additional votes next election. Thousands.

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    • Those votes need to come with a shift in attitude at ACT and recognition that the Religion of Piece is not all it is cracked up to be.
      >It is completely anathema to women’s equal rights – in the first country to give the vote and all that.
      >It is a cult that is actively out to punish homosexuals – in a way that makes Israel Folau pale in comparison. Do these soft-in-the-heads not understand what Brunei just announced?
      >It is about promoting ‘toxic male’ domination of women.

      There are some dim bastards about, aren’t there!
      You cant negotiate with a three year old.
      You cant negotiate with people that still think like a three year old.

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  5. Enjoyed meeting and listening to David Seymour. Great personality for a politician with a relaxed connection with those in the room. Interesting speech and good question and answer session. Oh, and thanks for the pizza.

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  6. I will be voting National. However, I am not trying to tell anyone here how to vote. As an active National Party member, I can help influence policy. It would be nice to have some more help within National but if some vote ACT and some the New Conservatives and others become active in the National Party it can make a difference.

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    • Chuck I think you need to add a disclaimer to each of these statements.
      When you slip in the line:-
      “As an active National Party member”
      You need to remind people, esp newcomers, that you voted NZ First only 20 month ago otherwise this is disingenuous, and not in line with your ‘Family First’ pressure group alliance and values!

      National don’t stand for anything except slowness to act.
      They could rebrand as the Treacle Party.
      They jumped around policy based on Farrar’s polling samples in 2008 to 2017.
      That is pretty gutless.
      They had no original ideas.
      They need a burnoff of the oldest 10 hangers-on tout de suite.
      Start with Nick Smith, Woodhouse, Guy, Tolley, D Carter
      DCM.

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  7. I expect Seymour and Act to gain votes from their euthanasia stance.
    Although I disagree with them on that matter, I accept that I’m probably on the losing side of the argument numerically speaking, and wouldn’t let that interfere with any consideration of Act as a place for my party vote.

    [It’s that slippery slope thing that bothers me.
    Can we reach a zero suicide target by shoving the numbers over to euthanasia?]
    https://video.foxnews.com/v/6044550883001/#sp=show-clips

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    • A choice to suicide alone and the introduction of euthanasia or, as I prefer as a name, the Dying With Dignity bill where you can choose to end your life with your loved ones present, are two different things in my book. I will be very sad to see this opportunity not come to pass. We are not all being manipulated.

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        • That’ll be why they look alike! He was definitely well fed. ?
          Enjoyed seeing you again. Go the “BW”!

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  8. I am usually a ‘Two Ticks Blue’ kinda guy but after listening to Judith Collins defending Golriz (which would suggest the Nats are going to support her ludicrous proposed ‘Hate Steech’ laws) I think I may soon be joining the Act team!

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  9. I just don’t like the guy. He’s far too friendly toward the Rag heads and his sympathy toward legalising drugs leaves me cold. I would have more time for his drug stance had he gone full libertarian and said that the state should not pay one cent toward rehabilitation treatment for junkies but he favours taxpayer funding. To me, he’s just a middle ground Tory.

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  10. At this stage Act. Purely on policy although I don’t like the euthanasia laws. Climate, Guns Freedom of speech.

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  11. Mr Seymour has demonstrated political courage with the recent Arms Act amendment and in the freedom of speech area.

    I find him eloquent and feel he is sound.

    I find the Nats difficult to support after many years of agreement with them. The approach to the recent Arms Act amendments, which I felt was not carefully considered, troubled me greatly. They followed an undemocratic path and were not sufficiently critical in holding the government to account as an opposition where the views and rights of law abiding New Zealanders were at risk.

    I suggest though that, holding your nose and going for two ticks blue is the preferred option to remove the current shambolic and destructive government. I am not currently seeing sufficient weight behind Act or other positive party alternatives to overcome the MMP problem this country faces.

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    • There isn’t “sufficient weight” behind National to overcome the MMP problem this country faces. Fact of the matter is, National has sold out and will simply implement slightly watered Labour policy.

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  12. ‘David’, (who had a couple of laughs at my expense!!!) lol so I sall be familiar, is definitely geared towards three parties being in government next term. ACT being one of them.

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  13. Seymour is a fop and there’s no way middle New Zealand will vote for an arrogant smarmy prick in enough numbers to make it worthwhile. The only way forward is to not give your vote to small parties but concentrate on getting Nats over the line alone. Almost impossible but the Overton window is shifting. Or we put pressure on the Government to change the MMP law to ensure the party with the most votes makes up the Government ala Germany. Fuck this gay voting system called MMP

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  14. Having met David Seymour, I didn’t get “smarmy”. I got genuine but he falls into the pitfall of believing that being young is an asset for a politician. I hate to break it to him but life experience gives a perspective that the young just do not have. Having been around the block a couple of times I can assure him that as life passes by your views mature and you take political bullshit and confidence less seriously. What is importance is actual substance and a good dose of commonsense. I liked what he had to say, but there is still a sense of naivety about him. I may give Act my party vote but my local National candidate my electorate vote. That covers both of my natural voting base.

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    • Hi wg, thanks for your comment and impressions of Seymour. My response would be if you compared him to the likes of relative newcomer Chris Bishop, who seems more at ease in their own skin? Bishop to me seems more earnest in his political beliefs while with Seymour I get the feeling it’s just a larp. Of course he doesn’t have the benefit of having a huge political machine behind him, but that in my eyes is also a negative. It’s like he hasn’t learned any tricks in his time and is incapable of learning them as he has been in politics for a decent time now. Honestly to me he seems elevated above his ability, whereas perhaps under a more wise politician he may learn how to “act like a politician”. Probably at his age I was naive but I did my darndest not to show it

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      • No flies on Seymour ABS. He seemed quite aware as to what is happening in the political bubble, maybe a bit lacking in the knowledge outside of Wellington. Most of which Seymour said I agree with. ACT are relaunching themselves next month with a clear direction. Both National and Act have annoyed me with both making policy decisions in the past that I have found wanting. Overall Act was impressive but is lacking political prominence with only Seymour having a profile. I will watch carefully in the run up to the election.

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      • Looking across the Pacific in a vaguely North Eastern direction; I’m not sure I want the next crop of politicians to “act like a politician”. Seems to me that acting like a politician is what got us Simon Bridges and Jacinda Ardern and Golriz Golrahaman and all the lies and hatred they spew.

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        • True but paisley shirts and acting like everythings a joke isnt very endearing either. Its not like Seymour acts like he has any testosterone or chutzpah. He’s either change for better or he isn’t and I don’t see anything that says, “Hey, Men of New Zealand. Sick of being slagged off as the cause of all the evils in the world while paying for the actual evils of the populace?”
          Career politician exactly the flavour as the rest of them but sitting on an outrider of voters because he would be slaughtered in the middle because of how fucking punchable his face is.

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          • Maybe. But then, picking a politician for their shirt or how endearing they are isn’t exactly a recipe for getting good policy. Look at Jacinda for a prime example. Many people find her endearing but she thinks policy is that man in a blue suit with a nice hat that helped save her and her lawns from some embarrassment.

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