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To all National MP’s
As a National supporter for the past 47 years, I wish to voice my disgust at your actions in supporting the Government in the passing of the recent bill to make  criminals of law abiding gun owners. I attended a recent meeting in Te Awamutu where MP’s Bishop and Kuriger were speaking about this very topic. I have never been in a group of people so hostile to anybody, let alone MPs. I would venture to say that about 300-350 people were there. Most would have been National party supporters. For how long, I can only guess. If they are like me, not for much longer, unless you change the way you are heading.

Your actions were despicable in casting aside the rights of law abiding citizens. All in the name of socialist ideology. I thought that was the purvue of the left. How wrong I am.
This will be posted on my  blog site www.ysb.co.nz. It is a blog dedicated to upholding free speech and WAS a National Party support blog. Your actions mentioned above have seriously bought this support into question.

Your replies will be appreciated

Regards
Chris Roberts

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  1. Should National MPs deign to read this I will add to the chorus.

    I am a right-wing liberal looking for a political home.

    No party in NZ caters to my leanings but National should do. They, after all, were formed to attract those like me.

    I realise that with only one very short exception National have not, in my lifetime, been right of the centre line (The exception being the short period where the great and good Ruth held sway regarding economic direction) before the ultimate socialist and destroyer of NZ, Bolger overwhelmed her.

    Now is the time National need to make the shift, a time when the current government is pushing NZ further and further left and with that push destroying both freedom and democracy.

    NZ needs (and I believe wants) a genuine centre right party. National can be that party.

    NZ also needs a party that will highlight the dishonesty and downright thoughtlessness and stupidity now being thrust upon it by the current clowns.

    NZ needs a party that will return freedom to New Zealand, a party that will ensure ALL New Zealanders, no matter their race, religion or private opinions will be represented equally.

    Let’s be honest here, National will never again face a lack of intelligence and ability like it does now in the form of the Prime Minister and National should in fact must, for the sake of New Zealand, take advantage of (and highlight) this FACT.

    There will be no better time for National to do this, despite the MSM, than between now and the 2020 election.

    The current clowns are already in election mode, have been since Winston selected the government.

    Why aren’t you?

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    • I wholeheartedly agree with you.

      Cynically and realistically, I don’t see them changing. Bridges has allowed all this to happen on his watch and it seems Collins is even worse: an authoritarian.

      Are there any right wing liberal types in the National Party and if so, how many?

      For the foreseeable future my party vote is going to ACT. While I dislike Seymour’s immigration policies, he seems to be the least-worst political party at the moment.

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      • I’m a long time National voter and there’s no way I will ever give them my vote again after Bridges and his softcock bunch of soggy leftists have betrayed our country so completely. And ACT is worse than useless in my opinion.

        Although I’m a dyed-in-the-wool atheist, I have joined the New Conservatives and, after having met Leighton Baker, Elliot Ikilei and others, I really think that is where the hope for NZ lies (To give just one example, Elliot has Maori and Pacific roots and yet he vehemently opposes race based privelidge of any sort). These people are true conservatives and, although no party is 100% perfect, I really do think they represent sanity and I think they have the potential to do well.

        Whichever way it goes thought, National are absolutely fucked. They have lost their way big time and I can’t see them ever recovering from Bridges’ catastrophic failure as a non-leader of any ‘opposition’ to these Marxist ecofucks.

        https://www.newconservative.org.nz/

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    • Sorry but you must have been asleep at the wheel. The Nats. have been like this forever. Too many left footers and Maori. Wouldn’t know centre right if they fell over it. Brash was the only leader who got even close to the ideal.
      The leftie Nats. are just the left in a lesser way then the evil we have now.
      Had Winston not been such and arse he is more right than the Nats although his lot are smattered with lefties like that horrible woman Martin.

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  2. Fantastic post MT_Tinman. National really need to pull finger, pronto. They seem rudderless at the moment.
    I will be seriously looking at giving my votes to ACT next year. Labour light needs to take a good hard look at themselves.

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    • They won’t. They don’t even see the enemy in the shadows. JLR might be an arse but maybe he is right about the sycophants that call themselves Nat pollies.

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  3. How about we ask the Nats to tell us what they are going to do here?
    Are they going to reject this bullshit outright or are they going to appease all manner of stupid people like the Greens and entrench this crap into law.?

    MPs may vote to declare national climate emergency following regional leads

    Canterbury and Nelson have moved into a state of “climate emergency” – and Parliament could soon vote to make the declaration.

    Climate Change Minister James Shaw agrees global warming has created an emergency, and applauded Environment Canterbury (ECan) and Nelson City councillors for taking the step.

    And he revealed some MPs are in discussions about taking a similar stance on a national level.

    That would require MPs to approve a motion in Parliament, as they have done in Britain and Ireland in the last few months.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/112817027/mps-may-vote-to-declare-national-climate-emergency-following-regional-leads?cid=facebook.post&fbclid=IwAR2n8XX4Xd_qLqGpnU66_WZCXxQgbkusfAun2UrGko44rBzqIMBwivRQ5LY

    Of course I expect that Nick Smith would be right there with the Mayor of Nelson and Sage from Ecan.

    Long past smiths use by date.

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    • And apparently a 10.5% rates increase to pay for their climate emergency fantasies.

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    • “Climate emergency” lol. I’m going to so enjoy this latest attempt to scare the hell out of the gullible public, until it starts costing $$$. Lawsuits are inevitable. Poor ratepayer picks up the bill for hair-brained ideology. National best stay right away from the lies of the left or they will pay dearly.

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      • On the ‘gun emergency’ which is much more serious than climate hoax, I note that in the Farmers Weekly of 22 April Alan Emerson had a go at MP’s and said ‘the passing of the gun law legislation showed beyond doubt farmers and provincial New Zealand have no real support in Parliament’.
        He is right.
        There are so many threats to our country right now and no-one prepared to stand up and fight.
        The UN tentacles are spreading through the fabric of NZ and sucking the strength out of our culture and pride.(by that I mean NZ culture )
        We are being spewed out in a multicultural mess amidst a delusion of diversity and pc stupidity.

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  4. Excellent post Chris. While my vote while still be going to National I will be reminding National MPs as well as members of it.

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  5. I agree with all above, and well said Tinman. I’m another longtime National voter, but never have I felt so alienated from my own country and let down by a simpering opposition. So much so there are ‘jokes’ about being carted off to re-education camps for those of us who disapprove of the COL and their push for Hate Speech. Cindy is winning hearts of the young and impressionable with her “love, not hate” call, but we all know this is fantasy and will pass, or crash and burn along with the economy. Our so called media are all cheerleading for the PM-select, a loudmouthed woman with pretty hair who doesn’t understand the meaning of GDP and avoids being in NZ as there is criticism of her and her ministers abilities to run a bath. She much prefers the limelight around the world to doing her bloody job. We all realise times change but the fundamental New Zealand way of life is being challenged by this bunch of Marxists clowns and National has rolled over to have it’s belly scratched. We need our opposition, OUR party to stand up and fight for us, not roll over because it seems to be more acceptable the modern way.

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  6. It’s going to be interesting- a lot of green and labour supporters think the Col is useless too since we aren’t Venezuela yet. Winnie is considered a traitor by some of his lot, and Act will inevitably gain votes off National.

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    • I was wondering where I was in the political spectrum which is why I went looking for a quiz, should it be more believable as it is sourced from America and not by our political pundits?

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  7. Excuse my ignorance but shouldn’t those figures add up to 100% ?
    Typical alt-right survey too skew numbers in there bias

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    • I guess there are some policies that overlap, so they get counted towards the parties with the particular policies.

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      • No, but remember. If the Left don’t agree / understand it must be hate speech / bias / those evil, baby-eating Capitalists.

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    • No, it is showing you how much you align with each party. On the plus side, at least you’re confirming WHY you are a Labour / Green voter.

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  8. While I can see where you are all coming and at this stage National will not get my party vote –first time this will have occurred, I think the real problem is MMP. It has forced National to move more to the centre. In fact when you look at the last election results, it suggested to me that electorate votes are basically a waste of time even though I think electorate MPs are vitally important to our democracy.

    The system needs changing (not back to FPP) but I very much doubt it will happen soon. My preference is the supplementary member system because it seems to combine the best aspects of FPP and a PV/PR system.

    PS. National lost my party vote when Bridge’s offered bi-partisan support to Shaw’s Zero Carbon Act within hours of Shaw publicly announcing the development of it was going to proceed. Bridges did this before any detail was out and before any public consultation or comment had time to be given. So he got an email from me within minutes of hearing it on the news.

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    • I knew it was just a matter of time before he buys into this climate change hysteria. If he’s truly a conservative thinker, he’ll know full well the UN is full of shit and as corrupt as it gets. Stick to your principles through thick and thin, or my vote for you is history. He also said “remarkable” if the Col govt outlawed thousands of legally purchased rifles. Grrr! It didn’t even affect me- it’s the point! I actually care about rural people and hunters’/sports shooters’ rights dammit.

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  9. Great comments Tinny. It is always good to get one’s frustrations of one’s chest. I also note all those who agree with you and vow to vote ACT. Well, Im a bit cynical about that to be honest. As somebody who has wasted vote after vote on ACT I just know that when the election comes around again it’s just going to be the likes of you and me who tick the box marked ACT.
    Politics is tribal in NZ, those who have always voted blue will continue to do so.

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    • I think this time it will be different. There is a groundswell of people pissed of with National. You might be surprised at the support act gets.

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      • Dear Editor. I hope you are right. Last time, I felt sick voting for my utterly dishonest and lazy local Nat MP and couldn’t bring myself to party vote for them at all.

        ACT was off the table for me as Seymour had pissed away the opportunity to fix one of the major problems and widely embed charter schools. If there had been 200 of them, the fascist Hipkins would’ve had a much bigger challenge closing that many down in order to return to the marxist programming of kids. And Seymour wasted all his time on a bit of virtue-signalling with the 3rd order issue of assisted suicide. Sure it’s a good idea, but his vanity in wanting a “legacy” was a mirror to how John Key wasted his massive political capital on the flag change vanity project. Also Seymour’s support for shipping in refugees made him unpalatable.

        I don’t think Seymour has improved, but I do think all the other alternatives have markedly gotten much worse. I think of the Nats as no different to the RINO Republicans like McCain and Romney etc or the Remainer tories in the UK – they have parted ways with prinicple, integrity and accountability and they do not even pretend to represent their consituency any more. Goodfellow may have done as much damage to the Nats as May has done to the UK Conservative party when he installed the infinitely unappealing and clueless Soimon.

        What a pathetic state of affairs it is when your only vote is your party vote and there is not a single candidate worth voting for in one’s electorate, in my electorate I’m going to hold my nose and vote Labour in the hope that we can get rid of the do nothing National wanker we’re currently lumped with.

        And I’m going to trust the wisdom of my betters in this blog and throw a party vote to David Seymour although I must admit in my secret heart I’m a bit like Bonnie Tyler in that I’m holding out for a hero who I feel deserves my vote. I envy the UK with Farage and the Brexit party.

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    • Seems like David Seymour might have found his inner being, first salvo, now or never ladies and gentlemen, roll up, roll up, for the latest show on earth. Let’s just not let it be the last.

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    • I fear BB you are correct but hopefully we can influence those who once voted ACT to return to doing so and those who wasted votes on NZF, CCCP etc. to move towards ACT.

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      • The CCCP has was not in existence in 2017. Colin Craig did not stand then. We now have the New Conservatives who are strongly anti-euthanasia. There is no way they would vote for ACT or combines with ACT.

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        • Changed allegiances again I see Chuckie.

          That must be about 743 since you voted Winston last election.

          As for any rightish party stating they’ll never combine with another rightish party, that party will be a non-starter until MMP is abolished.

          The only way the right can prevail is by all the right working together.

          Any party using “Conservative” or “Christian” will also struggle until the memories of the pretenders, sexual deviants and scumbags previously associated with these names goes away.

          As an aside: “New Conservative” is an oxymoron that will provoke large amounts of mirth but, I fear, fuck all else.

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