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The gun owners has estimated the upcoming gun buyback to be closer to 1 billion. Once again this useless pack of wankers we call our government have deliberately fudged the numbers to look good to their followers.

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  1. I suspect a lot are just not going to bother. No one really knows who ows these so unless you are being pratt with one how they going to find out? Cops are already over worked and under staffed and previously law abiding owners are the least of their problems.

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  2. COLFO do not appear to have costed compensation for gunsmith costs in reducing tube magazine capacity. This is a sensible option to consider for a .22. Last time I spoke to my Local gunsmith he said no accepted criteria had been received from Police HQ Arms office for magazine capacity reduction or any certainty the work would be accepted.

    I remain less than impressed that the Police HQ Arms office was able to manipulate this matter to include the .22 ancient bolt or lever action with tube magazine capacity above 10, and the politicians, seemingly dazzled by the blurb about MSSA, failed to notice the hidden detail in the sneaky arms grab they agreed to.

    I feel for those using modern weapons to control pests after reading the suggested approved contractor costs to do the work. This government, and those complicit in this matter, have failed New Zealand and abused and ignored democratic process in doing so.

    COLFO has highlighted a substantial issue in calculating what a fair compensation price maybe. There is a price for abusing democracy. This aspect of compensation is only one element. Let’s see if they step up to handle the compensation stage with more skill, democracy and acceptability than the first.

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  3. I have commented on KB. I got the following response. Some might like to respond.

    “Yes. Opposing it at the time would have been electoral suicide.

    You can always repair any niggles later on. You may have noticed that everything has slowed right down now that it is in the hands of the people who actually have to implement it properly.”

    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/06/hosking_thinks_we_may_end_up_in_deficit.html#comment-2502785

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    • Hey Chuck, why do you bother to comment on KB anymore?

      I used to be pretty active there but I was beginning to notice the increasingly soggy leftist limp wristed way it was going. And then for me the pathetic reaction of Farrar to the ChCh massacre in rushing to moderate all comments finished it for me completely.

      I haven’t looked at KB for days and I doubt that I will. This blog (despite its rather puerile name) is far better and it’s getting better every day.

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  4. At the for-show-only submissions hearing, the Guncity owner estimated, based on analysis from his chain of stores and record keeping, was upwards of $750m, a handful of other firearms-industry related individuals & organizations also made their own estimates from $500m upwards. COLFO have gone above and beyond in researching and accounting for all stages of the confiscation and have come to a scarily huge, but realistic cost.

    Every time someone asks Jazzcinda about this discrepancy in estimated costs, her answer….

    “look, ultimately, as we’ve talked about before, we dont know. And the reason why we dont know, is we just dont know how many military style semi-automatic weapons are out there… So we’ve put aside uhmm a ahhhm aaa…..”

    Sorry Cindy, I think the Gun City owner, other industry experts and COLFO know a fuckload more about whats out there and what this is likely to cost, compared to you & your incompetent bunch of virtue signalling idiots!

    I see a pathetically low, insulting buy-back offer from the CoL, public uproar, refusal to give away hard earned property for peanuts, and over the top police raids & confiscations like the one just reported in Stuff this morning, becoming the norm in the not tooo distant future.

    All for the comrade agenda.

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  5. Interesting to hear Stuart Nash and Mark Mitchell debate the buyback. It is interesting but does not sound good for licenced firearm owners. Are you able to put an audio file up, Editor?

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    • Minister Nash does not inspire confidence for me in the matter. The notion a depreciating asset business model would fairly compensate does not resonate for me as even close to equitable where an undemocratic action has made a previous legal asset a prohibited asset.

      His credibility is at serious risk.

      Classic case of act in haste and repent at leisure.

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      • Pete. he does not even not how to depreciate an asset. The 20% is diminishing value. A $1,000 asset would be worth $327.68 after 5 years not zero. If had a rental property and did his own accounts like many landlords do he would pay to much tax or be in trouble with the IRD.

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        • Guns scarcely depreciate because they have an inherent value and, if looked after with a modicum of care, will last several lifetimes. My .308 hunting rifle, for example, was manufactured by Steyr, Austria, in 1908. granted the only original part now is the action but the gun is good for another hundred years easily.

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  6. I own a collectors Winchester 30/30 which may very well be confiscated and destroyed,$3200.00 is the very last I will accept for it and I will have nightmares about such a beautiful firearm being crushed by our disgraceful Prime ministers virtue signalling ….

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