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  1. There will be a public meeting of the New Conservative Party in Hamilton this evening. The details are below.

    While I am an active member of the National Party I believe National will need another coalition partner besides ACT.
    For those who are now disillusioned with National and also are not happy with some of ACT’s policies, it is certainly better to vote for the New Conservatives rather than NZF or not to vote at all.

    Where: Oaks Lounge, Seddon Park, Hamilton
    When: Saturday August 3, 7.00 – 8.30pm
    Speakers: Leighton Baker, Leader & Elliot Ikilei, Deputy Leader
    Come and hear our policies on Cannabis Legalisation, Freedom of Speech,
    New Education System, Euthanasia, Abortion….. and more.
    Q & A

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    • …..”Come and hear our policies on Cannabis Legalisation……… Euthanasia, Abortion”…..

      Intending attendees can save themselves the time & travel involved in listening to the drivel. In the brave new world envisaged by the Conservative & Godstruck they won’t occur.

      Imagine NZ as a Tardis with the NC Party in the driver’s seat. Dial set to 1955, reverse engaged & floor the accelerator!

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        • 1955 is too far advanced for the Greens: fossil fueled vehicles could still run over 8 year old girls for example.

          You’re going to have to go further back than that to satisfy the Greens.

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    • Strategically it might be worth giving to consideration to the idea that if David Seymor gets Epsom, the rest of us should vote NC. They get 5% Seymor gets Epsom, job done.

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      • You do not have the voters to get 5%. The only strategy for 2020 is ABBA.. anyone but bloody ardern.

        Eliminate her from the picture and we can resume normal activity in 2023. This is time for the “long game”. Strategies to get a partner for National will not work. Two ticks blue in 2020 and MAGA.

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        • Tall Man. The NC does not necessarily need 5%. If they get close to 2% then it is possible for National to do a deal as they have done for ACT. I am not saying they will but saying it is possible.
          Also, I am not telling anyone how to vote. I am a National member and hope everyone on this blog will vote National. Many like ACT but some do not like Seymour’s euthanasia bill so those in or near Hamilton it is worth hearing what they have to say.

          I will report back tomorrow and answer questions or suggest you contact the leader or deputy who both have high integrity.

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          • If you want to be a Labour lite acolyte Chuck then stick with Kiwiblog and their 4 hour comment approval wait.
            That is some fantasy site that thinks National stand for freedom of speech, freedom of association, and self sufficiency.
            It was gone by the time Bolger took over and probably disappeared before 1970.

            If you had attended class earlier in the week you would have seen the vast majority of people at YSB support ACT based on the poll.
            Those who don’t support the euthanasia bill can choose not to ‘smother granny with a pillow’ as your clowns like Maggie Barry suggest.
            You know, THE Maggie Barry that said 20 years ago there are no decent men in NZ.

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            • I for one disagree. I welcome Chuck’s opinions and I particular like the fact that he’s prepared to go to these meetings and report back.

              Yes, he’s naïve, especially for supporting Winston First under the delusion that they’d keep National honest. But Slater was probably the biggest proponent of that myth and until the 2017 Slater still had some credibility on political matters. (Don Brash also got fooled by Peters, for example).

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    • If you want a teligious, auhtoritarian government – do what Chuck says. This is a party that wants to increase censorship, remove rights and tell everybodg how to live behind their white picket fences.

      No thank you to authoritarians from me.

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      • Prior to the Ides of March, I was, begrudgingly, going to vote National. But in the aftermath we’ve seen National turn into a heavily authoritarian political party.

        Perhaps this lot always were, and it took a tragedy for them to unmask themselves. I will not vote for National with either Bridges or Collins anywhere near the levers of power. I’m also suspicious of Mitchell after whom he advocated for in the UK Conservative Party.

        If National returns to their roots (Holland in particular), National will become an option again. It will first require the removal of all the NINOs (National In Name Only).

        Quite frankly, switching from the current authoritarian regime to another authoritarian regime holds no appeal.

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      • It’s scary. Do you believe everything you hear without question?

        When the actual party policy, the covered, written statements from the people count for so little with you that a random internet video will sway your viewpoint and have you throw out all the good that attracted you to actually join the party. And then, even worse, you spread that further as if it is fact.

        You’re a member of the ACT party. Have you actually asked them for clarification? Have you had a response before throwing random shit at them?

        I’m waiting for a response from them at the moment. That video and other statements from Crossing the Rubicon contradicts what is published ACT policy, it contradicts their media statements on the agreement. I want clarification, because yes, they are a pro immigration party. I know that.

        No, they are not for low quality immigrants that want to convert us to another Islamic shithole. Yes, they are for immigrants that contribute to New Zealand and want to be Kiwis.

        That is all published policy.

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        • It’s not about hatred of other people and cultures. It’s entirely about maintaining and preserving the quality of life in NZ, and i fear the UN sees a sparsely populated paradise like NZ as a prime dumping ground for the 3rd world. We’d be overwhelmed and the country would soon be unrecognizable.

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        • But Pascal, this is the 3rd or 4th example of Seymour ducking on the Migration pact. This is what the internet allows us to do, draw our own conclusions from a variety of sources and NOT to rely on either:
          – the lying political ‘elites’
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          – the ‘bought and paid’ for MSM

          Seymour has always been dodgy on refugees and immigration and it is the mark of the NWO to use mass migration from 3rd world shit-holes to destroy democracy.

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      • That is very, very concerning.

        I’d always had a residual concern about Seymour on immigration. This seals it. He is on the wrong side of the biggest issue of our age. The defensiveness described shows he is hiding something. Is Soros money flowing his way?

        I really believe now that the evil NWO is now aiming to use NZ as a test-tube for the worst excesses of their social engineering plans. The last Aussie election was a massive “fuck-off” to the NWO – our nation’s gullibility in response to the attack of the ides of March (is there a better sign that something fishy was about the attack than it being carried out on the ides of March?). As Q says “their sybolism will be their downfall”

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      • Well put Kea. It is the general drift leftwards off the reservation that is causing the current political crisis

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    • Yeah Nah Chuck.
      You voted for NZ First the year before last.
      Now you tell people not to vote for them.
      No credibility, bud.
      When did you -at 75- get the wakeup call on Winston ?
      Oct 2017, Nov 2017?
      When exactly.

      National/Labour Lite cancel out their possible partners.
      The catholic dominated outfit is opposed to much of what ACT stands for.
      Now you suggest tossing around and splitting votes to various small parties.
      Your political awareness does not register. Zip. Nada. Not a sausage (well, that is the Greens ).
      Labour Lite must be desperate to allow you to be a delegate after you openly voted for Winston First 22 mionths ago and Winstons staed goal was to clean out the Gnats he hates: esp Bill English

      You are a classic political waif- believing what Winston First said 22 months ago and now believing that the Gnats might actually do something.

      A little political education:
      The reason it is difficult for new party to get underway is there is no track record to follow.
      Now Labour Lite have a track record- they do very little despite loads of yik yak and when they do they Frck it up –
      Leaky homes from changes mid 90s;
      the Power cock up of 1997;
      the destruction of the Akl Regional Council in 1991 to kill off central resource planning then creating the current disastrous Auckland Council in 2010;
      they championed the RMA under Simon Upton in 1991 and then whinge like little bitches about it ever since but DO NOTHING;
      they opened the flood gates on immigration circa 2013 putting home ownership out of reach for many NZers in their 20s but kept the RMA in place (clear majority and mandate in 2008/11 to change ) and a dysfunctional Akl council so no houses were built and infrastructure became strained.

      What they did not do: loudly and boldly support Free Speech;
      review the disastrous Fonterra in their 9 year term despite many reason to do so and now the Westland milk is taken over by the Chinese Fonterra are FUBAR- look at it again in 5 years.

      Gnats make nice opposition! They agree with everything Labour proposes and oppose their own ‘political friend’ ACT with the likes of Collins even calling out Mr Seymour and supporting the cray cray hate filled Marxists of the Red/Greens.

      You really lack awareness and then come on here and give ‘advice’ on political matters.
      Don’t waste my time.

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      • If that’s how you feel then we get another term of Communist lite. I for one would rather have labour lite than communist heavy which is what ardern will bring ably assisted by a bunch of hater called watermelons.

        ABBA & MAGA need to be the job for 2020.

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      • howitis, learn to read. I was not telling anyone how to vote but telling those with an open mind of a meeting.

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    • Yes Melahi, I tend to agree. As a rule, we can all be certain that left-wing parties are out to destroy everything that is beautiful about our South Pacific paradise and with heavy-handed authoritarian overtones on our freedoms.

      In a decision about which is the lesser of two evils, anything will be preferable to giving the whip-hand to any left-leaning government.

      The UK has one, the US has one – where are we in NZ going to find our orange savior?

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      • I think we all need to realise that none… none of the parties have a real plan to retain NZ as it currently is as we are part of a big wide world and we need to adapt or die. labour, “what’s in it for wynston” and the watermelons have no regard for NZ just see us as an opportunity to play “ideology”. We need to consign them all to history and the only way in 2020 is two ticks blue.

        Any other strategy gets a split vote and ardern walks back with the rest of the arseholes.

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    • There is no suspect in it, sadly Melahi. They are biased against people like you, to their shame.

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    • Melahi, I’ve always been a National voter, the last 3 elections my vote have been grudgingly given. As for “people like you” I’m much more concerned about your political leanings rather than your sexual orientation. ?

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  2. Bit like the followers of the paedo proffit who want sharia law. Drag us back to the dark ages. But Cindy says they are us. Yeah right!

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    • Here’s Act latest newsletter:

      Dear

      ACT’s campaign to defend free speech continues with Leader David Seymour’s Freedom to Speak public meeting in Howick on Saturday 10 August.

      Free speech is still under threat in New Zealand. On Tuesday, media revealed that Auckland University of Technology had cancelled an event commemorating the Tiananmen Square protests following pressure from Chinese Government officials to prevent it proceeding.

      This week we also heard the tale of a street preacher in Whanganui being threatened with arrest for his attempts to share his interpretation of the Bible, following complaints from two employees of the Whangarei District Council. He was advised that his words were creating public disorder and he would be arrested if he didn’t stop.

      No political party shares ACT’s consistency in defending your right to speak freely and that is a message we are now taking around New Zealand.

      The next Auckland meeting is at The Good Home, 78 Uxbridge Street, Howick at 3pm on Saturday 10 August. You can find the details for this event, and the many more to come on our website.

      On Monday 19 August at 6pm, Young ACT will also be hosting a Freedom to Speak event at Shadow’s Bar at Auckland University.

      How you can help

      Host an event
      Can you organise a venue to host the next Freedom to Speak event? Send us an email

      Share this email
      Send this message on to five of your friends and ask them to sign our petition.

      Support us
      If you would like to help us spread the word about free speech on social media and defeat the Government’s hate speech laws, you can do so here.

      I look forward to meeting you on Saturday.

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            • No, because randoms making Youtube videos don’t have political agendas to push for other parties.

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            • Moreover, if you consider political integrity – name the one political party that has consistently stood by it’s policy and philosophy, irrespective of public opinion and the ramifications of that.

              I’m not even going to look in New Zealand First’s direction. They have no integrity. And the Greens? Don’t make me laugh. They sell out on anything and everything for a bone in government.

              We know it’s not Labour. They bend whichever way the Unions, the United Nations or the Maori blows at the time.

              We know it’s not National. They look to Labour for the wind direction and then take the politically expedient route.

              Who has been vocal about our freedom? Who has spoken out against the rampant authoritarianism from Golritz Galraham and her desire to enslave our society?

              I tend to trust people who stick to their philosophy and their ethics even in the face of opposition and at the risk of being unpopular. ACT has published policy and that is their baseline and they stick to that thus far.

              I am not going to be swayed by somebody posting a Youtube video that defies the behaviour and statements from the actual party, without any real evidence. Anybody can make any kind of allegation. Without evidence, it means fuck all. Especially when the rest of what they push is New Conservative agenda 🙂

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              • Migration is one thing, Melahi. ACT has always been pro-migration for people that want to be Kiwis. They are opposed to the mass importation of Sharia law from shithole countries and they are opposed to the UN Migration pact.

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          • Immigration is one thing, but refugees- in particular how many are forced on us by the UN if they have their way- is far more concerning to me as we damn well know we’ll get the lowest common denominators and poorest out there, and not Norwegian engineers or the like. NZ is not a nation of illiterate goat-herders and cashew gatherers.

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      • It is obvious that there are many areas of policy that both National and Labour are out of line as many of us see things.
        The reality of MMP (which I did not vote for) is that National nor Labour are going to win an out right majority next election.
        The sooner National realise this the better.
        It would ,in my opinion, be bad news to have either party alone in power.
        Thus we need someone like the New Conservatives to balance the Nats in particular or otherwise the country continues on the path to doom and gloom.
        I did not vote for NZF last election as I can’t stand Jones or the screeching women Tracy Martin.
        MMP has been the downfall of democracy in this country but it is not going to change before 2020.
        I will be interested in a report from the NC meeting tonight.They have an opportunity but a lot of work to do.  

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        • Wiseowl, There were just over one hundred at the meeting and most were very enthusiastic.

          I wish Elliot’s speech was recorded. I suggested to him he put it up on Youtube.
          He told the amount this government spends on drugs for promiscuous homosexuals who want to partake in unprotected anal sex with many partners. The drugs are not to cure HIV but to prevent one of these deviants from getting infected. The cost the drug a couple of years ago was about $1,000 US a month. Would not that money be better spent on cancer drugs?

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  3. Cindy bin Lying in the sun reminising of life in the tropical sun on daddys idyllic island retreat.
    Thinking that now he will get a decent power supply to run the airconditioners in every room, even the bog. Maybe a new house even to keep me to what I have become acustomed too! I’m sure he would like that!
    I wonder what else he would need, an airport maybe? That would make my travel to see him easier. Not enough land for one, oh dear. Maybe a new port and a high speed boat that would cut travel to a couple of hours. Lets do this!

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    • Forgot to say that daddy only spends three days a year, when we are not there,as there is only so much you can handle of sun, surf, sea and no shopping!

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    • More people live on Dominion Rd than in Tokelau.
      More people live in Beach Road downtown Auckland than live in Niue.
      It is good to see where prioridies go.

      I am sure these taxpayers would love such largessse – just not a visit from the sanctimonious one.

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    • This is yet another stupid ill thought act by the glory hunting woke pm. I have no idea why National was in agreement with this, I would like to know who looked at the statistics of deaths by firearms? examined who is responsible for the deaths by firearms? Did they have a license? etc etc. It’s just wrong on so many levels. No one will be safer for the buy back at all. Guns are still out there, of all descriptions and gun owners/ or not owners can still kill. It is not the guns that kill its people. Look at the knife crime in London, should we pass all the knives in as well. Stupid woman pm.

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      • Why wouldn’t National be in agreement? The 1983 Arms Act was under National. The 1990 Amendments were under National. National, it appears, has always been on board with disarming the population.

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            • She was referring to the US gun lobby that were peppering her with emails not being aware that she was no longer “minister of police”.

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              • Next month legislation outlawing the guns permanently will likely pass with near-unanimous support in Parliament.

                “Move quickly to get this through in urgency,” National MP Collins told The AM Show on Friday.

                “The National Party will support you. We will get this through and we need to sort this out.”

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        • Rubbish. My advice is to go online, twitter or facebook and post your opinion about the right to retain semi automatic assault rifles and see what happens. I am a registered firearms owner and have been most of my life. I have no real opinion on the MSSA rifles but I don’t believe the banning was sensible. Any “pushback” from National would have plunged them into single figure support at that moment and I believe their response was correct and they will revisit this another day. Now you may wish to be a martyr but I for one agreed with their stance as the ‘legislation” was going to pass whether National supported it or not. If you are looking for someone to blame speak to those numbnuts that you know that voted for “what’s in it for wynston”. They are the ones that created this monster.

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      • The police can only be sure of getting back those semi autos registered as “E” category, perhaps 14,000. Of the remaining uncertain number of guns a large number will not be recovered and will hugely swell the number of guns available on the black and grey market. Along with that the complete and utter destruction of the formerly very good relationship between LGOs and Arms officers built up over decades makes it very hard to see how all this can possible “make us all safer.”

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      • You could create absolute mayhem with a few 9kg LPG bottles, no military training required. We need to ensure those bottles are registered, and out of the hands of gangs lol.

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      • I lived in SA and even served in the Army as an officer under his leadership and I would argue that he was genuinely trying to create a climate of reconciliation and peace. Everyone who met him were impressed by him and there very few that didn’t like him. His ex-wife Winnie was another matter and he divorced her soon after being released.

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  4. Is the Mad Queen of to the protest this weekend?
    Can’t have those slack greenies hogging the lime light.
    That’s my spot, I deserve it! I’m the Queen!

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      • Only a short visit. Daddy ran out of gin so the mad queen ordered our frigate back to NZ to restock for him.

        As I type this our frigate is heading north to the islands with fresh supplies and fishing bait for Jethro.

        Thank god for nepotism.

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  5. So how would the issue go if all robots were “blackfaced”?

    “robot racism” took the internet by storm as critics challenged the claim.
    …., dove into a study conducted by the Human Interface Technology Laboratory in New Zealand.
    [Canterbury University] The lead researcher, Christoph Bartneck, explained his reasoning to CNN:

    Imagine a world in which all Barbie dolls are white. Imagine a world in which all the robots working in Africa or India are white. Further imagine that these robots take over roles that involve authority. Clearly, this would raise concerns about imperialism and white supremacy. Robots are not just machines, but they represent humans.

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/joseph-chalfant/2019/08/01/cnn-promotes-study-racism-robotics
    And tax us to come up with such reports! https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1156916257834381312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1156916257834381312&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.infowars.com%2Fcnn-publishes-article-claiming-people-are-racist-to-non-white-robots%2F
    Some interesting replies here. 🙂

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    • From a comment.
      What if you order a “black robot”, to escape the “white supremacist” accusations.?
      “either you’re reinforcing white supremacy or you’re reinforcing that black people should be slaves”.
      Is that a ‘win’ for the “woke”?

      Then there are the “health & safety” issues.
      Just what would the French PM Macron make of “yellow vests” robots.

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      • Sheeeeet brotha, I want me a black robot. “hey man, I ain’t seen yo ass in a coons age mothafucka. How’s my little black-eyed pea”?

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  6. Our Alexa Ranking is now 639. Thank you all you good commentors. Where will it end?
    If only we had some lefties on here with staying power to debate things. I am all for the exchange of ideas, but it looks like they are on a hiding to nothing to try and defend the mad queen and all her followers.

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    • I think Jacinda is so lovely and I look forward everyday to the joy she will bring me and my family by just being her. I’m so looking forward to the wedding and all the lovely photo ops it will provide to say nothing of the next cute little baby not being a bastard!

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    • I think I’ll join a couple of left wing blogs, just to stir things up a bit and to get a “feel” of the nation (ferals)

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      • I read, but don’t comment on Martyn Bradbury’s wrath in the DB. What a miserable, self-loathing, marxist wanker he is. That’s a cross section of the lefty mind. They truly would love a new USSR. Sick,sick bastards.

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        • They have an extremely low impression of Jacinda over there & i heartily endorse the left attacking each other over whatever stupid radical idea they think should be prioritized over everything & everybody else

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    • Remember Ghandi’s famous quote

      “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win”

      The rising Alexa ranking means that your good work here Ed will soon shift out of the “Ignore” phase.

      Now that WOBH has disappeared the hate-filled, fascists on the left will be looking for another strawman to point at for playing the “Dirty Politics” card again and with David Farrar’s retreat in to fullblown TDS and progressivism – there is only one obvious target for turning their cannons on.

      I hope you are ready and that your ‘seals’ are tight.

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  7. @Chuck
    Re your post on the New Conservatives and ACT and strategic voting etc.
    Yes it would be great if enough people voted to get NC over 5%.
    That would give them a few seats and with National and Act make a right wingish coalition.
    But what are the chances of 5% voting for them?
    Imho (as know one has heard of them and they are not in the media at least in the media that I watch) they have no chance.

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    • Why do the Nats need “friends”?
      They were the most popular last election, and the way things have gone for the COL, it’s possible they could get over 50%.

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      • Much as I don’t like to disagree with the Editor
        I don’t think the chances of both the Greens and NZF going under 5% is very high. Therefore unless National take a LOT of votes off Labour we will end up with the same goverment as we have now.
        As they always say “The next (Reid) poll will be very interesting@
        Will there be a big drop off in Labour support due to gun buy backs, Tokelau trips, Maori land claim etc etc.

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        • I don’t think there will be a big drop off. The majority of media coverage for the PM (And she is Labour) is positive. The odd negative coverage is spun as beltway and soon overwhelmed by fluff. We see things differently because we investigate and want to understand and think further than what we’re shown, but the average Kiwi does not. They watch One News with dinner, think what a lovely lady Jacinda Ardern is and that she’ll make them better off next year, and she gets their vote. Oh, she’s in the Labour party? Still vote for them then.

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          • And they got next years budget (with Grant non sexist Robertson’s) new ability to borrow lots more to give away to bludgers)
            And there will the cannabis referendum to bring out al the feral voters.

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        • That’s democracy but if enough do what you plan to do then get ready for another 3 years of ardern the liar.

          You heard it here first, no new conservative or liberal christian party will gain traction before 2023. Coalition supporters will be out in force to keep their darling in the hot seat and the watermelons legalising their dope. A vote for anyone or any party that is not blue will give us all ardern again.

          You vote how you wish, that is your right, but the only way to rid our country of this accursed coalition is 2 ticks blue.

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      • Because National does not have the support to run alone in a MMP environment. They would need to be polling consistently above 55% (considering margin of error) to be safe in that scenario and they just don’t have that support anymore.

        Moreover, National is Labour-Lite. They won’t get another vote from me until they grow some balls and start standing up for New Zealand again.

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          • Tall Man, if you vote for National or if you vote for Ardern – it makes no difference.

            You will get the same policies, just under different colours. Yes, National is probably a bit better than Labour on the economy. Labour is probably a bit better on social wellbeing. Neither of those two parties will affect any big change in New Zealand. They both stand for big government, for continued growth of the state, for more authority and interference of the state in people’s lives.

            You may like that. You may want New Zealand to be governed by Ardern in blue drag, or Bridges in red drag. Your choice.

            I want change. I want a future for New Zealand where personal responsibility trumps big government, which is why I’ll vote for that.

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            • If you truly think that National and the coalition are that close then you are either not looking or not listening. New Zealand will never have a Trump or a Trump style government. All our politics are way left of even the Democrats and it will never change.

              As far as I am concerned there is a chasm between the two parties and so far we have had ardern lite and if she is returned next year due to “voter fragmentation” then you will see the realisation of many of her dreams and they will be your nightmares.

              I suggest you pop onto the National website and spend a bit of time reading through and see the complexity of some of their policies, then do the same with labour and wade through the waffle.

              This alone gets my vote.

              https://www.national.org.nz/national_would_pull_nz_out_of_un_migration_pact

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              • Based on past form, National would not pull out of the UN Migration Pact. National’s history of reversing any of Labour’s implementations is dismal.

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                • I assume you are referring to WFF. That is a very difficult issue as “dependency” on that benefit was almost instant but I believe Sir Bill English had a plan and was targeting welfare and reducing tax but not increasing the threshold for WFF.

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                  • It goes all the way back, like not dismantling the welfare state the Savage set up.

                    Muldoon reversed compulsory super in favour of national super. But that’s a rarity for National.

                    National (Key) also did not put interest back on student loans for example.

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                • So true. And it wasn’t just WFF. They needed to sell off Cullen’s useless train set. Also reversing the student loan bribe. The ERA is still crippling small businesses. The only professional thing that Labour have done is quickly implementing their loony ideology in the first 100 days (killing off Charter schools, 90 days, oil and gas ban etc). National need to school up and do the same with the worst – by the time the election comes around it’s old news.

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        • Agree Pascal, but the one figure that is not talked about now with regard polls (and it annoys the hell out of me) is the undecided figure. Latest couple of CB polls it is around 14%.

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          • Preferred pm, 41% for the idiot, 6 for Simon and Judith, 2 for the thief and 1 for fuck knows who. Who do the 44% missing support? Simon, that’s who but they are unwilling to say. ardern supporters are falling over themselves to show each other ho much they “love” the LLB, whereas National supporters are more reticent. Yes, many National supporters would prefer a John Key style guy but they will, in the end, vote for National with Simon Bridges….

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        • None of this climate change lying crap either. I won’t have it. Any politician who embraces that for “popularity” is putting a knife in Freedom’s back.

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    • For me, right now, I’d like ACT and the New Conservatives to get into government, with ACT having one or two seats more for the 2020 election.

      I like ACT’s stances for liberty. I do not like their stance on immigration, especially Islam.

      I like the NC’s stance on immigration. As such, I’d like that policy to override ACT’s immigration one. Hence why I said I’d like NC at the table.

      At this point in time, National to get the rump of the seats to lead this new coalition. It’s not that I particularly like National (I don’t), but NZ will need them for their bureaucracy skills (the day to day running of government). Supposedly National will also reverse the UN Migration Pact. They lack the spine to do it themselves, but if NC is part of government they might have the fortitude to reverse a CoL policy.

      Both NC and ACT seem to be pro-gun and pro-free speech (I’m suspicious of NC’s commitment to say the least). They may push National around on these issues and again National may grudgingly reverse a CoL policy.

      For the 2023, I’d like to see both ACT and NC seat numbers increase at the expense of National. Again, ACT for their liberty stances and NC for their immigration ones. By 2023 these two may have developed the skill to run the bureaucracy so National is needed less and less. 2026 would continue to see National’s share of the vote continue to dwindle with ACT/NC growing.

      Every so often I’d like to see a Left-wing focussed liberty party to win (none exist in NZ). It’s not that I’m enarmoured with the Left but the Right-wing is not above corruption. An occasional reversal will help clear out such problems.

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  8. I remember many moons ago, when Muldoon pointed to a young chap in his caucus and told the media to watch this man as he will be PM one day.
    Well, that chap has gone one better, he has the power to make Kings and Queens.
    That my friends, is the state of our nation.
    Create division, capitalise from it, shift responsibilities to benefit you and you alone, jump in and out of the pockets of those who hold the real power and sell the minions the rose tint through deception.

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    • Yep, maori seats gone, immigration reduced to 10,000….. both bottom lines and both binned immediately. They did their job, conned the xenophobes and the anti maori brigade… job done.

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  9. With the amount of people on here saying they are not going to vote National (Labour lite) you’d think that one of the 3 right wing pardies ACT or NC or NNZP would be on 4 or 5% each!

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    • But they’re not. There have been 25 people commenting on here so far today. 5% is a lot of people and they’re just not going to do it.

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    • Good, lets start the countdown now
      18 months so that’s February 2021.
      So if we are still here, and the sea level has not reason by a few metres, then wlil they all f off and leave us alone.
      You too Stuff

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      • At the time I signed up you could set your own avatar. I think new users lost that option when the blog was moved across to a new server. You would have to ask the blog tech support as to why.

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      • You can go to Google Images, save something to a desktop file, and do it that way. That’s how i got Rodney Dangerfield with a cigar on mine.

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    • GREAT news! Fantastic article. I’d hand them all a redundancy, and just for good measure each gets tarred and feathered. Trump giving the middle finger to Paris 2015 just ruined their little cult eh? MAGA

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  10. How to you get this page to refresh itself? It gets a bit tiresome going through the motions every time I want to read….

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  11. Seems to be better way to create even more “smart arses”

    The body that regulates lawyers in in England and Wales could be about to scrap the writing section of an exam for future solicitors and replace it with multiple choice questions because it discriminates against ethnic minorities compared with white candidates.
    https://summit.news/2019/08/01/uk-lawyers-exam-may-scrap-writing-section-to-help-non-white-candidates/

    All to help the ‘bame’ that are now so involved in the new diverse, multi-cultural community .
    Surely it can not be a point of low expectations, but probably to allow to have more degrees, like Communications, and “political science” with some humanities as a part // 🙂

    Just remember that you will not be allowed to refuse the services of these lawyers, as a real money hungry lawyer will sue your arse off.

    Then how far off will Doctors skills be, with multiple questionnaires.

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  12. I do wish that the reply button on Issing in Ation was turned on!
    Would be interesting to see peoples reaction!

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  13. Just worked out why the stooges haven’t implemented a rainbow tax.
    Its cos Red is a primary colour.

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  14. Is parliament siting next week?
    if so its going to be a fun week
    What with the Soul land protest
    The dhb deficits
    Will Ardern turn up one day?

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    • Labour Spin and their adoring Media are no doubt brewing something to divert attention from the land protests- More Baby Neve photos perhaps? Or maybe even naming the date for the Wedding??

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      • The Mad Queen.
        Gets off at 2.30 everyday.
        Every thursday, a day off.
        Overseas junkets and holidays every few weeks.
        Highest paid of that lot.
        Hopefully it’s only tempory!

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        • It’s fucking unbelievable isn’t it?
          The Mad Queen is actually the epitome of everything then Left supposedly hate- White Privilege/Life of Luxury etc etc!
          When are they going to turn on the vile woman for cruising round the World for photoshoots and endless holidays while raking in nearly $500k a year?? (I won’t hold my breath)

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    • Yes, monday, tuesday, wednesday. Seem to have done away with QT on thursday. Looks like it really is a part-time government.

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  15. You can all sleep easier in your beds tonight and feel “much safer” I have handed in my two prohibited firearms. The process was easy and the staff doing the business were courteous and professional. If you see any police or government people claiming on TV that gun owners are “happy to comply” then I can tell you they are lying through their teeth. Those of us giving up our guns today are not happy that we and you, the tax payer, are being ripped off by the government for this giant fraud and even the police I spoke with as I waited (nearly two hours) in line acknowledged that “making us all safer” is an egregious lie.
    I was looking forward to engaging some gang members in conversation to ask how they felt about the process but, strange to relate, it didn’t appear that any turned up in spite of the venue being only walking distance from a BP gang pad. Perhaps they had a hard night last night.

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    • Fucking incredible that Police are grilling ‘cleanskin’ New Zealanders (Anyone who has worked in the Justice Sector knows what that means) about their Political views and confiscating their firearms etc
      While the Labour Government point blank REFUSES to do anything about Gangs!
      I’ve never been much of a Conspiracy Theorist but Jesus this is fucking suss…..

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    • Yes, they will ask you if you support President Trump. Perhaps they are doing a poll to see if we can find one for NZ.

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  16. The Mad Queen.
    It would be nice to have the missing in action photo along side one taken recently!
    I think that Labour are running interferance with the duck in parliament, the hacks giving her a free ride, kindy visits, so much time at home every day to bath the baby, overseas shopping and sunbathing visits because Cindy is fragile. Put her to work and she would be spinning like a top! How is she going to handle the election and it’s debates? But then who do they replace her with? They are all tits! She aint going to the UN as that place would spit her out as a blithering mess. Aint no minders like the duck, media, staff and Aunty Helen there!

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    • She’s only a figurehead but she’s the only member of the CoL with a vestige of the charisma required to get them back in next year.

      She can’t stand pressure or hard questioning & as such has to be shielded & protected. If we had an opposition worthy of the name she’d be flayed alive every time she turned up in Parliament & twice on Wednesdays.

      But we don’t have a real opposition. Just the Vatican Party doing God’s work.

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      • I suspect that you’re right. I can’t quite figure out whether it’s full blown communism or advanced socialism that’s her bag.

        Either way she’s dangerous.

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        • She’s too dumb to realise the implications of what she wants. She is being used and manipulated for an agenda she doesn’t understand.

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        • Agreed, yet the essential difference between Communism & socialism is that in the former the means of production are owned by the state whereas in the latter the state bleeds capitalists white.

          Authoritarianism, oppression & draconian policing are the common factors.

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            • When has socialism not been about greed? Socialists are far greedier than Capitalists. The latter try to make their own money whereas the former tries to take from others by force (in yesteryear this was simply known as plunder).

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      • I predict she won’t last the year out due to “complications.”(Big call)
        Her anxiety issues and hormones will be too unbearable for her.
        Not to mention wedding arrangements under the control of Helen Clark Gayford.
        Winston will be on cloud nine.

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        • Yes we need to bombard her with negative emails, tweets and facebook and and as many blogs as we can.
          Really pressure her.

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          • The Labour pardy wagons will circle around the accidental PM. She believes she is untouchable and she probably is still but the glitter has large chunks flaked off and more and more of the nasty underneath has been exposed to the electorate. I’m looking forward to much closer inspection as the election approaches.

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  17. An elderly man lay dying in his bed. While suffering agonies on his way to his final moment, he suddenly smells the aroma of his favourite scones wafting up the stairs.

    He gathered his remaining strength & lifted himself from the bed. Leaning on the wall, he slowly made his way out of the bedroom, gripping the wall; he slowly makes it to the kitchen.

    There, piled on a tray are his favourite scones. Was it heaven? Or was it one final act of love from his devoted Scottish wife of sixty years, seeing to it that he left this world a happy man?

    Mustering one great final effort, he threw himself towards the table, landing on his knees in rumpled posture.

    His aged & withered hand trembled towards a scone at the edge of the table, when it was suddenly smacked by his wife with a wooden spoon.

    “Fuck off!!” she said… “they’re for the funeral”.

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    • I got sick of baking scones for hubby, as did the daughters… so he finally “learnt” how to do it himself.

      It’s one of my nightmares that when I’m dribbly & gaga, he’ll be shovelling his baked stodge (stuffed with whipped cream & oversweet strawberry jam) down my gullet.

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      • My maternal grandmother was Scots Maggy. She was generally a great cook & baker……her pikelets were the stuff of legend & her sponges without equal. She also spoiled her grandsons rotten.

        Sadly she was also a baker of scones or “scooones” as they were called. These horrible creations of flour, water, baking soda & cement were capable of stopping saliva in its tracks. If you dropped two in the Waikato River it would have ceased to flow!

        To my dying day I’ll remember her silly old Scots friend dribbling “Och Jessie…..you make a beautiful scooone”. 🙂

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      • Great joke. Someone here doesn’t have a sense of humour nasska!

        Date scones are the favourite in our house but they are only seen on rare occasions.

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        • You can buy them from Countdown. kinda like date scooones. Ha Had a Shelty grandma who was good at cooking them and crackly. Favourite food.

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        • Bit like in my house as well. Mrs Holy is a damn fine cook, but it’s a long time between drinks, as they say.

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      • come on maggy, they aren’t that bad. Surely you taught him how to make them properly with YOUR recipe.

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        • He’s progressed to the Edmonds’ Classic Scone mix (just add water)…. and they’re usually pretty good.
          But my problem is that he’ll eat scones & cream for morning T, lunch, and afternoon T every day and we don’t need that volume of stodge in our bodies now that we do bugga all every day.

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        • Try getting to make date scones Maggy, at least dates have fibre and nutrients in them and you don’t need all that jam and cream as well.

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          • Yes, sometimes he gets adventurous and grates a bit of cheese into the mix (I prefer savoury)… but he can’t cope with chopping dates (let alone de-pitting one or two)… so if we are “entertaining, I’ll make up a yummy date-lemon spread to slather thickly on his scones.
            (He will still pile on cream/creme fraiche to the yummy date mix)

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            • Fatherinlaw made pikelets one time, you could have used them as paving slabs if they had been bigger!

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  18. Know any of these people?
    The members are; chairperson Barry Jordan, deputy chairperson Kim Ngārimu, Shane Culham, Maryann Geddes, Kathy Grant, Dr Sandra Grey, Tania Hodges, Brett O’Riley, Dr Linda Sissons, and Peter Winder.

    You soon will. They have been given the job of running the 16 polytechs, from Christchurch if you don’t mind.
    About the worst place in the country to run anything.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/114715766/ministers-convenient-statistic-questioned-on-back-of-polytechnic-merger

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    • Soon there will be a Bachelors of Psychobabble, Diplomas in Goat Molestation & a Masters Degree in Witchcraft on offer!

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      • you left out the Phd in mouddi taniwha recognition. That will soon be highly sought after skill. Apparently there is a new taniwha sighting each week and they are becoming greedier by the day.

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        • I wonder how the murri survived taniwha attacks prior to the British? After all, taniwha are only appeased by the white man’s money.

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  19. Over on KB, they are complaining that nothing has happened for hours as the mods have gone to bed!
    Awh, hope someone reads them a story.

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