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    • I am not concinced the drop in support is because of people not understanding the issue. To me, I support it but only if the necessary framework is in place as with breath testing. People have cottoned on that there is no plan beyond legalising from this government. That is why I think support is falling, as people can see risks and repercussions.

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      • Don’t you think you are giving the general public to much credit for thinking about this? I don’t think this will be a election loser for liarbour

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        • You might be right holy but the more murders and criminals on the run with their photo’s plastered all over news that look like they had a bender on drugs, the less people that will vote for it.

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        • It won’t be an election loser. It will get more people to the polls and they are more likely to vote Labour/Green. But I am not convinced the referendum will pass. It shouldn’t, anyway, until they know how to do roadside drug tests.

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          • The Greens don’t want to do roadside drug testing. No siree, no checking on those who are legally using drugs they purchased from approved govt outlets. Driving under the influence is not to be investigated by the road police. It is not fair on those who just want to partake in their chosen recreational drugs. //

            I was watching the Aussie cop programme the other night and the cop told the driver the saliva test detected illicit drugs, not over the counter medicines. I’m guessing JAG, Chloe and co don’t want that for the supporters of their cannabis bill.

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            • There are issues with the timing of it. As I understand, the roadside tests can pick up something that’s been in your system for a week or more. But the fact it’s difficult doesn’t mean we just throw our hands into the air and ignore the problem.

              I am on a motorcycle most of the time. With that perch, I get to see every prat on a mobile phone and how they impact on traffic flow, it makes it easier to see the ones not paying attention or drunk or drugged. Same as, I suspect truck drivers would have much better visibility of what is going on.

              And damn, I don’t want a drugged up person driving near me.

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              • Nor me, and I drive a late model safe car. The Greens however, have other priorities than the safety of road users.
                Stay safe on that motorcycle of yours!

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      • As I’ve freely admitted before here I smoke the stuff, and as far as legalisation goes it would be a win for the greens, so I’m going to be a hypocrite and say no! I don’t think it’s a good idea considering NZ’s road toll as it is. When I’m at home having a toke I’m no danger to anybody.

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        • where is there any proof that the road toll and cannabis use is connected? Meth there is and other various drugs. Scaremongering much.

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          • There’s a number of studies linked here. They’re mainly saying “Yes”, but also say “No”.

            • Marijuana is the illicit drug most frequently found in the blood of drivers who have been involved in vehicle crashes, including fatal ones.
            • Two large European studies found that drivers with THC in their blood were roughly twice as likely to be culpable for a fatal crash than drivers who had not used drugs or alcohol
            • However, a large case-control study conducted by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration found no significant increased crash risk attributable to cannabis after controlling for drivers’ age, gender, race, and presence of alcohol

            The core point though, I think, is that it impairs you. It’s difficult to argue it doesn’t and that, as with anything that impacts on your ability to drive, makes you more of a risk.

            Users will experience difficulty in perceiving time and distance which makes it much more difficult to read signs, judge speed, judge your position on the road, and avoid distractions. It reduces your eye-tracking abilities, gives you poor spatial awareness and increases your likelihood of having an accident by almost twice.

            from here.

            Feel free to use it at will, I support that completely. But stay off the roads, the same as if you’ve been drinking.

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    • I think you are right on the money that the key issue is the drop in support for something which is a liberalisation of something (previously NZ has been very into virtue-signalling liberalisations).

      I wonder if this is a sign that the ordinary decent NZer in the street is beginning to realise that you can’t trust the CoL and that every policy they push hard on is about something different to what they’re saying. Is this a beginning of the “awakening” that is so evident in the US and the UK, Italy, Germany, France etc?

      We know that socialist Cindy’s agenda is not about what she says it is:
      – throwing money at the Pacific nations is not about climate change – it’s about paying back her communist backers in China
      – the oil and gas ban is not about the environment – it’s about creating energy poverty to build dependence on left wing hand outs
      – the abortion bill is not about women’s health – it’s about moving towards a market for baby parts the way it is evolving in the US
      – signing the UN migration pact is not about helping refugees – it’s about creating a massive underclass of welfare dependents who are used to being bribed to vote Labour (see Peterborough by election in the UK)
      and cannabis reform is not about easing the pain of a tiny few who might benefit from the medicinal palliative qualities – it’s about destroying the minds of the young to ensure they keep on voting Labour (morons generally are easier to fool than sentient types).

      I hope it is the start….. but MMP……

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      • I agree with the general thrust if what you say, DP, but I don’t think Ardern is planning to give more money to Pacific countries because the Chinese told her to do it.

        Ardern is frantically trying to virtue signal on this ‘climate emergency’ bullshit and at the same time hoping to claw back some leverage in the face of China’s successful expansion into the area. She won’t be successful in this of course, because, unlike NZ, the Chinese have squadrillion$ to spend and they know what their foreign policy objectives are. Actually, China probably regards NZ as just another Pacific Island to be bought with their loose change anyway… but that’s another matter entirely.

        On the subject of ‘refugees’, I think their voting for socialists isn’t the main reason for encouraging them to flood into the West – although that certainly seems to be a nice by-product for the Arderns of this world.

        Rather, I think it has more to do with a genuine feeling of hate and disgust that Westerners seem to have developed for their own traditions and values. We simply don’t value scientific and technological progress, free market capitalism, democratic government, freedom of speech, education or shy of the things that made us world leaders any more.

        The West is fucked and the future belongs to a vibrant, expansive and culturally confident civilisation: in a word, China.

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        • Edit function didn’t work. ‘shy of the things’ should read ‘any of the things’. Apologies for not proof reading beforehand.

          p.s. Edit function seems to work now. I just edited this! ?

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        • It’s the trendy bullshit of recent years that Western = White and Comfortable is somehow wrong. For decades it was the model the rest of the world admired and tried to attain, but look at much of the rest of the world in 2019- the bottom feeders are still the bottom feeders, so societies like ours must be “leveled” to compensate. That’s Ardern and her cronies in a nutshell. Thank f*ck for democracy.

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        • What is the benefit to China in the Pacific Islands? There may be some tactical one from a military perspective and as a launching point into Australia, but is there an economic one? Africa I can understand for resources, but Fiji for example?

          Not sure coconuts is a resource worth spending squadrillion$ on.

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            • Spot on- that’s where I hope to hell my native land the USA will flex its mighty muscles once again. I know whose side I’m on- John Wayne’s 🙂 Go kick China’s ass boys.

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              • I suspect Don is playing a long game and creating internal strife in China/Iran/Turkey etc and wait for that pressure to blow the incumbents up except China which is shrewd and will realize that a compromise without losing face is the cheapest and best option. All should study Zimbabwe for a concluded story and Venezuela and S Africa for one still being told.

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          • Yes good point.
            Its more the strategic one, being able to control half of the southern pacific. Having naval bases etc. Missile sites.
            Spratley islands anyone?

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            • That’s the only benefit I could see. But despite their manpower, China’s can’t win a war with the USA involved.

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              • Yet – remember Nancy Pelosi’s chauffeur for 12 years was a Chinese agent. Half of congress and the senate are actively trying to destroy the USA as a strategic power.

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          • From Wikipedia: “Endowed with forest, mineral, and fish resources, Fiji is one of the most developed of the Pacific island economies, though it remains a developing country with a large subsistence agriculture sector. Agriculture accounts for 18% of gross domestic product, although it employed some 70% of the workforce as of 2001 etc etc etc ”

            Fiji has a huge maritime territorial area and it is the most developed and powerful of the Pacific Island ‘countries’. China stands to gain considerably when it controls their fishing resources and their food production (to send home) as well as their votes in the Pacific Islands forum and the UN.

            Most of the Pacific Islands ‘countries’ have populations the size of a minor Shanghai suburb or less…. but they each have a political voice in the UN etc as well as vast undeveloped natural resources.

            Also, as Gorse and others have said, these ‘nations’ also provide very strategic possibilities for when China starts to take military control more seriously (as is happening already in the South China Sea).

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              • Cheers Pascal.

                Historically there have been empires which have been largely destructive and ‘evil’. The Mongol empire, for example, just killed, conquered and looted vast tracts of land and millions of people and created almost nothing of any lasting value in the way of economy or even culture. Just death, subjugation and destruction. Bastards. The Japanese tried it on too, but fortunately they were stopped in time.

                Some empires though (in fact probably the majority) act as civilising and beneficial agents for mankind. A good example here would be the British Empire which brought civilisation, civil society, industry, trade, democracy and culture to hundreds of millions of people worldwide. It’s fashionable now to ‘blame the British’ for almost everything…. but the reality almost certainly wasn’t the case.

                Empires which have the potential to be beneficial usually start off very much like the Chinese are doing now and this pattern involves firstly trade, followed by expansion of influence into countries’ politics, then the building of a political and cultural (including linguistic) alliance with shared values and aspirations. This is what happened with the British Empire, and only as a last resort when real threats were faced did war become an option.

                I think we are definitely seeing the rise of a Chinese empire now; but it’s not entirely clear yet if it will turn out to be a destructive violent conquering force like the Mongols and (gasp!) the Americans were, or whether it will be a largely beneficial Empire like the British. I think probably the latter…. but we’ll see.

                At any rate, my advice is to learn Mandarin and brush up on understanding their values and what makes them tick.

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                • Oh cool. I’m a racist dickhead. Many thanks for your opinion and I must say it’s an honour to be debating with such a brilliant mind as yours.

                  I’ve been missing this high level of intellectual discussion since I left KiwiBlog, so thanks for your input. Cheers.

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                • Your statements are factually correct but I do not understand specifically what Jews do that has made them Hated wherever they have achieved significant influecnce.

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                • A lot of history is written by the victors and twisted by their descendants.

                  You have learned a lot of British history, but the British Empire was also a rapacious group of conquerors. Yes, they created things of value but, take for example the events in South Africa and the Anglo Boer War.

                  British, and that means English, New Zealand, Australian, etc. soldiers put women and children in concentration camps and starved them to death to try and lure the boers out into conventional warfare.

                  All so they could grab the land that held the gold and diamond mines and expand their Empire. The boers were trying a peaceful trade, but once they got their own path through the sea that didn’t go through the British Empire the British would lose much of their influence in Southern Africa. Hence, war. Get the gold for the Empire.

                  I don’t doubt that in the territories they conquered in the name of their Empire you’ll find many such stories.

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            • Pretty good summary but the game has just started. China can & will build a blue water navy but has made enemies of The Phillipines/Vietnam/Malaysia/Indonesia?\/S Korea and Japan so have a lot of fronts to watch. When it comes to current to current size, expertise & experience the US is predominant and Japan is expanding its Naval assets and Japan was a formidable force in WWII so I doubt China will confront the US & JAPAN unless its wants a bloody nose at a time when internal strife will be rising due to world recession.

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          • A toe-hold for placing military bases when you need to expand to get lebensraum – a population upwards of 1.4 billion is going to be problematic when the growing regions shift south due to the coming ice age. The Chinese understand planning over time and they know that in the past great dynasties always fell when the mini-ice ages came to China – long term strategic planning would suggest it’s important for the regime to be prepared to feed the masses and to give them somewhere to move to if the prime habitable areas shift south of mainland China.

            Once the USA is broken by the DNC’s support for swamping the country with immigrants from 3rd world shitholes – who is going to stop the Chinese if they turn up and start landing in Auckland? (At present why would the Yanks bother to stop them now?)

            We are a ripe little fat cherry, ready to be picked when hard cold times come from 2030-2070 to the Northern hemisphere.

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    • My understanding is that Otago University and now doctors are disputing the “benefits” of cannabis so by next year it may be a no brainer and will get kicked into touch.

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      • Fucking hell, why am I agreeing with you today? Put whatever you like into your body. Just do not harm others to do / doing so.

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    • It seems to be that the government should be tasked with educating the masses about the benefits of dope.

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  1. 29 funded multi-million dollar grants
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/08/the-29-projects-sharing-multi-million-dollar-grant-for-low-emission-transport-ideas.html?ref=ves-vid4

    “The Warehouse, KiwiRail and Meridian Energy are among 29 organisations sharing a grant of $4.5 million from the Government for low emission transport projects. Energy and Resources Minister Megan Woods said it’s the largest round of funding delivered through the Government’s Low Emission’s Vehicles Contestable Fund so far. ”

    Why is the taxpayer funding large corporations to install charging stations. Is that not just a normal business expense to keep up with the needs of their customers?

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    • National leader Simon Bridges said his petition against the proposed policy has reached 10,000 signatures in just over a week.

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      • No we won’t import more coal, because Ardern will simply issue a directive to curtail any increase in coal imports – just like she did against the oil and gas industry.

        Don’t make the mistake of assuming that we live in a rational political environment or a free capitalist society any more.

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        • CoL will find think that “wood pellets” made from all those planted trees will be very green sustainable way.

          However they will probably believe another half billion pine seedlings would do the trick, like last year.

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    • I like the idea of an electric / similar vehicle. When Porche releases their Macan equivalent in 2022, I’m reasonably sure we’ll be on the list to buy one, because our travel patterns are urban, low distance and low volume of travel. I may have one or two meetings a fortnight to travel to, the rest of the time I work from home.

      But even though I like the idea:

      • Electric Vehicles have an impact outside their day to day usage that is often not counted or considered, particularly around manufacture and disposal
      • Electric Vehicles have a cost to the power grid that should not be discounted; I don’t think we as a country have the energy capacity to support an electric fleet
      • Hydrogen vehicles, such as Hyundai Nexo makes a lot more sense. Range, quick refueling, low to zero emission, can partially utilise the existing infrastructure and has far less impact from manufacture and disposal
      • And, let’s be fair – nothing has the same heart thrumming appeal as a bloody stonking great V8. If I could buy my ’68 Notchback back, I’d do so in a heartbeat and bugger the petrol costs.

      And more importantly, we should not be subsiding or pushing the cost of these types of things onto the poorest sectors of our community. Why should the family from Manurewa working to get ahead fund some Greenie from Ponsonby’s electric wet dream?

      (Repost because Edit won’t let you add HTML)

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        • If hydrogen vehicles become the preferred choice over electric vehicles then the COL’s taxpayer funded charging stations will become an expensive taxpayer funded subsidy for the small number who have EVs. It’s easy to spend other people’s money.

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          • I have worked with dry hydrogen gas, and seen it explode. Not a fuck would I drive a vehicle with a gas tank of hydrogen.

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      • They could hook up EVs to a outside speaker!
        Could play the sound of what ever you fancy.
        V8, ring a ding suburu. Or Johny Cash.

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      • What pisses me off is all of these private business that are providing free charging points for everybody and want their own customers to pay for it!
        Pissed me off, I just changed my car and it’s not a colour green one!

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      • I had a short conversation with owner of the garage I get my car serviced at. He is an experience auto electrician and his partner is an A grade mechanic. I asked if he had many electric cars in for repair ( this Wellington where there plenty of Leafs). He said no because he was not qualified to repair them –something about higher voltages. He said he is not going to up skill because it was a long course and a significant cost and at his age it was not worth it. So I asked who doing the repairs/maintenance on them. He said he was not aware of anyone like him who had done the course so he said that the only place to go to would be the agency dealers –ie Nissan dealers.
        We all now what the agency dealer’s costs are like. So another cost to owning the electric car.

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        • Cool, because electrics just aren’t there yet. I’m hoping that by 2022 some of those problems are ironed out or that hydrogen powered has taken over. But we’ll see … it’s a few years before I replace this car anyway.

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  2. yes the whole legalise canabis issue is very messy.
    They cannot even come up with clear coherent issues even now.
    After 9 years in opposition and 2 in power.
    Its a big can of worms.
    Couple that with drugged drivers on the road.!

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    • The cannabis proposal started out as medicinal cannabis with the THC high removed and morphed into legalising pot and being able to purchase it over a counter in our towns and cities. The whys and wherefores are not the point, we are not stupid, we know when we are being manipulated.
      The purchasing of synthetic cannabis in our shopping centres by the dross of society begging and intimidating shoppers for money for their daily fix was a warning many of us have noted and don’t wish to repeat.

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  3. If it was legalised what would the gangs turn to
    P
    or standover tactics (maifa style protection)
    Or would they just give up their gang life and get jobs as customer service reps?

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  4. A friend was in front of me coming out of church one day, and the minister was standing at the door as he always is to shake hands. He grabbed my friend by the hand and pulled him aside.
    The minister said to him, “You need to join the Army of the Lord!”
    My friend replied, “I’m already in the Army of the Lord, Minister.”
    Minister questioned, “How come I don’t see you except at Christmas and Easter?”
    He whispered back, “I’m in the secret service.”

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  5. How about Islamophobia?

    It’s best described as a fear of being bombed, stoned to death, beheaded or ending up the subject of a fatwa after taking the piss out of the Prophet.

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    • So, back of the envelope maths which will be atrociously incorrect …

      $2,000,000,000 in the PGF over two years. There’s no mention of what the labour versus capital versus operational components are, so let’s just say half-half between labour and the rest. Given we’re following Shane Jones and sucking shit out of our thumbs.

      2,000 jobs created (Some part time, some full time).

      So we’re looking at *scrunches face* around $500,000 spent per job created. And at an average wage of $60,000 per year, you could have just handed over that money for nearly two decades to get the same effect?

      It will be interesting to see how Shane Jones is going to spin buying votes into job creation for the masses.

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      • Shane Jones says “Though I am a politician, I am not making these figures up.” Why say he “is not making the figures up” if there is no issue with his statement?

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    • For example, the strawberry pickers that will be dropping 1,200 Kiwi staff because immigration declined the 150 necessary season workers. See here. It may have been rescued, but how many more cases will there be like that?

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  6. Shane Jones is a fat self-centred loudmouthed conceited egotistical masturbating cunt who screams out his own name when on the gravy stroke.

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      • That’s himself, right? Handjob while watching porn on our dime? Or do I have the wrong MP in mind?

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        • Correct. Hey, I don’t mind porn, I don’t mind chubby boy Jones watching porn..so long as he pays for it out of HIS OWN pocket.

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      • Yup, he’s got some guts alright plus 4 chins to go with it. Look up arrogance in the dictionary..whadda ya know, there’s a picture of Fatty Jones.

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  7. Father O’Malley was strolling through the church grounds one sunny summer evening when he came upon a little frog sitting by a tree.

    “My Lord,” he said, picking it up: “You’re the saddest, most forlorn-looking frog I’ve ever seen. I only wish you could speak, so that you might tell me your troubles.”

    The frog replied, “Actually, I can. You see, I was once a choirboy in this very parish. One day I offended a passing Gypsy & she put a curse on me that turned me into a talking frog.”

    “Incredible!” said Father O’Malley. “Is there anything I might do to help you?”

    “Actually yes, there is. The Gypsy said that if I can find somebody to take me home & let me sleep in their bed, the curse will be lifted & I’ll be back to normal.”

    “Well,” said Father O’Malley, “the good Lord teaches us to be charitable. I think I can manage that.”

    So Father O’Malley picked up the little frog and put it in his pocket. That night he placed it gently on the pillow beside him & drifted off into a long, dreamy sleep. When he awoke the next morning the frog had turned back into a choirboy just as it had said it would.

    And that, Your Honour, is the case for the defence.

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  8. Jason Reihana released without victims families being told
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/08/double-murderer-released-without-victims-families-being-told.html

    “Jason Reihana has been let out nine years ahead of his parole, due to illness. He killed Teresa Gunn and her boyfriend Andrew Grabner in 2005, stabbing them to death in Gunn’s own home.”

    “I would be incredibly shocked were he to walk into a place or room that I was in. I can only but imagine how it would feel if you were a family member… Corrections needs to apologise, and there needs to be a serious investigation about this so it doesn’t happen again.” – Simon Bridges

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  9. Ya all know Jones was caught blowing some bloke in a London toilet back in 1988 from memory. Charged with committing an indecent act. He got off ( excuse the pun ).

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  10. Jacinda Ardern dies & goes to heaven. When she gets there,
    St. Peter tells her that she is not on the list & that no way,
    no how, does she belong in heaven. Jacinda Ardern must go to hell.

    So Jacinda goes down to hell where Satan gives her a hearty welcome & tells her
    to make herself at home. Then Jacinda notices that she left her luggage in
    heaven & tells Satan, who says, “No problem, I’ll send a couple of
    little devils to get your stuff.”

    When the little devils get to heaven they find the gates are locked –
    St. Peter is having lunch – & they start debating what to do.
    Finally one comes up with the idea that they should go over the
    wall & get the luggage.

    As they are climbing the wall two little angels see them & one angel
    says to the other, “My God! Jacinda Ardern has been in hell no more than
    ten minutes & we’re already getting refugees!”

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  11. Went to stuffed sit to check the headlines and here was a cop gaurding the the scene were the aust tourist was killed. Here his with his AR15 , trigger finger ready, ute parked at the enterance to hinder access to site, with gun ready. Myself I could not see the point of having armed gaurd with semi auto rifle! But I presume orders from Mike Bush to escalate police present at crime scenes!

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  12. The outcome of George Pell’s appeal in Australian Courts is due to be announced this week. There are those who think he is guilty as charged, and others who subscribe to conspiracy. I don’t know which is correct, but I hope the court gets it right.

    “Questions continue to mount about whether Cardinal Pell’s attempted clean-up of Vatican finances – including a deep-diving external audit of the Vatican Bank by Price Waterhouse Coopers – is connected to the sudden, unsubstantiated investigation (“Operation Tethering”) of his person, and the later charges of sexual assault.”

    * unsubstantiated investigation?
    Was it?

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    • My problem with Pell’s conviction is the standard of proof required. One complainant, no objective evidence, no witnesses. This case makes false allegations too hard to defend. Now Pell may have, or may not have, but the evidence in this case is not compelling. I am a Catholic ( although I don’t consider myself a Godbotherer, as I never argue anything from a religious point of view – that’s pointless), and I think Pell is a twat, especially as he is very conservative and has brought the church into further disrepute. Anecdotally Aussie Catholics I know think he is guilty. But this case endangers every male to conviction on baseless accusations.

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  13. I think I have finally given up on KB. I posted a risque but meant in jest response to a downticker who had downticked a “Have a great weekend post”. The great fat fuck Martin Williams posted that I must be very nasty, and wondered why NZ had let me in. Soon after my post was removed. So fuck them, their prissy moderation, and their capitulation to the enemies of freedom of speech.

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    • Yeah! Stick around here. Even when we call you a Godbothering, pedantic overstayer we do it in kindness! 🙂

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      • I know Nasska, and at the moment neither Stephie nor Martin pollutes this place. And this is a great source of the most irreverent religious jokes….

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      • Try telling a religious joke against the Catholic church.

        We’ve got a wanker lurking on the site who’s building up Flybuys with Jesus by stabbing impotently at the red button at such heresy. 🙂

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  14. But have the Lazy Journos discovered this blog site yet?

    And have the folks of “The Standard” or Pete George’s blog started slagging off at you chaps/chappesses?

    There’s nothing worse than not being noticed by those you seek to offend.

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    • Received this email in response to signing the National Party’s petition against the Greens car tax. I was interested to note the Nats now have a ‘Digital Campaign Team’. Perhaps they will notice YSB as a right leaning blog with a growing number who may support their policies and election campaign for 2020.

      NZ National Party

      Thank you for signing our petition to Stop the Car Tax.
      This policy will hurt New Zealanders, particularly those who don’t have a low-emission vehicle options that fit their lifestyles – farmers, tradespeople and low-income earners for whom these vehicles will still be too expensive.

      It’s not right that families with three kids will have to pay thousands more for a used seven-seater van so that wealthy executives can buy a cheaper Tesla Model 3 or a BMW i3.

      We’ll keep you updated on the progress of the petition, and please share this email with others who may wish to sign.

      Kind regards

      Digital Campaign Team
      National Party

      Sign here: http://www.stopthecartax.nz/?recruiter_id=774981

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    • Id rather that media filth kept sipping on their wine coolers and puking in their own shoes and leave us alone.
      They can weave their Brother Grimm stories and we will discuss truth.

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  15. First God tells us to go forth and multiply
    then he tells us not to commit adultery
    then a virgin gives birth to his son.
    I don’t think he has a fucking clue what he’s talking about.

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0.0141
CNY
0.2185
INR
0.0201