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          • My experience of having to wait till 20 or 21 was we youngsters were all enjoying the pub social life and drinking elsewhere before our legal birth date allowed access.

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    • Coming from an Italian drinking tradition I would argue for even a lower drinking age … Youngsters drinking responsibly with their parents is the way to educate people on responsible drinking, not banning it.

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      • I agree parents need to educate their children on responsible consumption. My old lady gave me my first beer at 13 and other such special occasions. Compared to my friends as I got older I was definitely vastly more responsible for it. Only one of us to not drink and drive, get in a fight, end up in hospital. The problem is many parents havn’t learned this themselves to then pass on to their children..

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    • One age for everything. (what ever age that may be) Im not against raising the age but where do you draw the line? You can consent to sex at 16? Die for your country at what 18? Be tried as an adult at 17? (You’re supposed to be anyway) so on and so on. Is it not logical that you should only be able to do all of these if you are a legally consenting adult? Just always striked me as a bunch of contradiction to not have it all the same number is all.

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      • No deal, no money. I firmly believe that that is what the majority voted for. It is now up to Boris to prove he is the greatest Prime Minister since Thatcher if not since Churchill by delivering what the people voted for. Whether he will or not remains to be seen.

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    • That’ll encourage Macron to the negotiating table.

      The divorce payment was an example of May’s naivity, the HoL upheld there were no grounds for paying it. So, the bankrupt EU will not appreciate being told to sod off by Boris. Which should have always been the case!

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    • I hope history will show that this tour of the EU capitals , by Boris, has effectively been showboating and he had no intention of doing a deal. For his own political future and how he will be remembered he should want to be known as “No deal Boris” and he will stand alongside his hero Churchill.

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    • No, Mama Bear is a perfectly capable, Chinese woman. She should get a say in what happens in NZ as well.

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      • Better to include 3 questions at the top of the voting paper such as:
        Who is the minister of finance?
        Who is the leader of the main opposition party?
        How long is the parliamentary term?

        If you can’t answer those simple questions your vote is invalid.

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        • Yes, I support having an intelligent vote – that seems sensible. However, we live in a free democracy. Shutting down people’s ability to vote by race, by gender, etc. is something that dictators in Africa does. Or people like Jacinda Ardern, who is trying to guide us to a one party state.

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        • WG, good start. I would have your suggestion, plus the number of votes you get is based on educational attainment.

          1 vote – left school no qualifications
          2 vote – got NCEA or equivalent
          3 votes – trade qualification , professional qualification or Bachelors degree
          4 votes for a post grad degree qualification

          Give more weight to those who might have a clue as to what they are voting for….

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          • So Keith Holyoake and Norm Kirk would have only had 1 vote and Geoffrey Palmer and Megan Woods would get 4 votes.
            Sounds like you should give more weight to your thoughts.

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          • No vote – Criminals and politicians
            1 vote – left school no qualifications, University lecturers, Public Health Administrators
            2 votes – got NCEA or equivalent
            3 votes – Bachelors degree, post grad degree
            4 votes – trade qualification , professional qualification

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          • Piss off. Too many dumb fuck professors and useless educated bums that support the left.
            You want to knuckle under the communist banner.
            Wash your mouth out and try again.

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    • How about just property owners Dig i have a couple of very successful Maori mates that wouldn’t appreciate an apartheid voting system, lets not lump everyone into the same basket as the feral loud mouthed bludgers of society please

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    • White, male, gun owning, property owners… White, female gun-owning, property co – owners could be allowed to vote with hubbies permission, along his intended voting wishes.

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  1. Y0ur older enough t0 vote and fight for your country along with paying taxes so why change the status quo now as most young people behave now and it’s the minority that spoil it for others. The better law to change is opening and closing hours as there is no need to be open
    for the hours they are now.

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      • However, at age 18 he speaks with youth and the immaturity of youth.

        A few years at Stanford will realign his thought processes and he will return, possibly, set up a practice and bank $2 mill a year and be very happy.

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    • Yes. A friend of mine her rent has gone from $320 to $450 in 4 years at a time when mortgages have gone down.
      Rates not up much
      And was already insulated.
      Everytime she gets wage rise, her rent goes up.
      The only reason offered is “market rates”

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    • So landlords are getting beaten up by this col on a regular basis forcing a lot of them either out or to hike rents to cover costs and he wants them to basically run a charity now, no wonder so many are turning to B & B good luck Auckland if Tamihere & Goff are your only two viable options not that we can talk here in Invers that pillock Shadbolt will probably weasel his way back in again

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    • Yeah right. Consultation alone will suck most of that up plus maybe a few overseas trips for Tim and the crew to see what wonderful “projects” have been developed in Brussels or somewhere else they haven’t been too.

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  2. Sex Court Case. Labours pervert meets justice this time next week.
    Wood you clear your appointment book to attend.
    Write up some post dated press releases.
    Do an interview with a tame reporter.

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    • Sooty they will give name suppression and slap him with wet bus ticket as the Government will fight it all the way to keep his mothers name out of the media on the grounds it could ruin her career if it is released.

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      • Happy, with a jury trial and 4 complainants it will be difficult to give him name suppression if found guilty of such a serious crime. If they do I hope Simon Bridges will name him in Parliament and his parent if he or she is an MP. I am off to a Grey Power meeting with the Mayoral candidates for Hamilton. Would you like to give me a call this afternoon?

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      • I’m not sure it should ruin the parent’s career.
        While the schadenfreude of knowing a person from a party I personally dislike is having a difficult time is absolutely delicious, my understanding is that the person insinuated was the one who called the matter in after the party hierarchy had spent some time being carefully ‘victim-centred’.
        If there are scalps to be scored over this it lies with the party hierarchy in the attempted cover up – something they appear to have a habit of.

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        • Harvey, if the alleged offender was the son of an MP it should not automatically reflect on the MP. However, it is the coverup that is the issue. On the other hand, Woods was there while the young people many under 18 and some under 16 were very drunk and she went to bed and left them to it.

          The Labour Party has a long history of covering up for sexual predators. The case of Darren Hughes was disgusting. Goff and King did their best to cover it up. Hughes was a serial offender with the same MO. He would ply young men with alcohol. It that had of been a female Hughes would have gone to jail.

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          • I did not know that W was present at the camp. Must have missed that. I understood the organisers had gone stunned mullet and when one of the victims contacted her she got some action started. Appeared to me at the time that she had been the only one to act with some gumption, even if it was an error to trust NZLP to do the right thing by the victims.
            Much rumour and innuendo abounds. I don’t suppose we’ll ever know the full story – Paddy Gower is hardly likely to find out and fill us in!
            Monday could be interesting, or a damp squib.

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    • Are you going on the first day? I was but I think I might wait till later in the week once I am sure what courtroom it is.

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            • Too trusting Chuck. This site is going to be heavily targeted during the election – the left wing Antifa types are going to be hunting for targets to dox and then go after. Why would you dox yourself – Ed you should be blanking out personal details.

              If I’m right in that I think the way is being cleared for US style Antifa interference in the 2020 election we all need to start being a lot more careful with our personal details (if nothing else haven’t you just given enough info out for hackers to do identity theft). I’m reporting your comment – not because I have any problem with what you’ve said (ever) it’s just a user security thing.

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    • Things will either be heavily supressed or postponed last minute. Waterleak in the courtroom or some such shit.

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        • it has only been 18 months since the “incident”, the wheels of justice can sometimes turn slowly, at other times Justice is very swift. Ask a video watcher.

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  3. I want to know why Stuff have in the Mental Health article they are running as all JLR has done is smeared others and fallen back on Mental Health as a excuse. There are a lot of other people out there with a bigger problem than he experienced and all stuff have done is fuelled the fire to help his Election Plan next year. We condemned Cameron Slater for doing the same so people should be standing up and doing the same to this rag.

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    • Yes, strange timing..
      perhaps it is a distraction from other issues on the horizon,
      or perhaps there are no journalists snuffling out news for stuff, so they are filling up their website with old stuff.

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  4. Morning report has run about 5 hits on the CEO of Ministry of Culture & Heritage this morning..
    Now she was only appointed to the job late last year,coming over from MFAT, so I very much doubt she was in charge of putting out the contract for the Tuia250 website.

    But strangely, there is no mention of the Company responsible for running the Tuia 250 website.

    Surely every company undertaking Government work is aware of its obligations to safeguard personal information.

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    • Shouldn’t it have been a sock? Is the artist suggesting that Alan Jones should have referenced a ball gag instead?

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      • Chompers does seem to like BDSM attire. Gayford looked to comfy in womens lingere as well. The pictures may make you hurl.

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  5. Speaking with an elderly relative on the weekend.
    He made the point that Jacinda Ardern goes out of her way to don her beloved Hijab and pose for the camera with the Muslim community at ANY opportunity- Yet she refused to attend any D-Day commemorations with those who sacrificed so much for our Country! The name he then called her was less than cordial…

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    • yes I think many people are realising this about her.
      Lets hope that it translates into a big drop in her Preferred PM rank and the COL polls.

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    • My late father who is a WW2 Vet would not like the commie brat crying crocodile tears commemorating the fallen.

      I cannot believe how quickly the good citizens of NZ have turned against this show pony.

      Just a year ago I thought we were facing several terms of her being PM.

      No longer.

      I figure the boyfriend has seen the writing on the wall and buggered off.

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  6. Well that was quick. Cameron Bagrie this morning predicting a recession in NZ within the next year has disappeared from Newshub site already. Is this the msm controlling that nobody says the ‘R’ word.

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    • Yes its coming and don’t let the COL blame overseas effects.
      Our economy is tanking due to the COL policies.
      Anti business
      Anti employment
      Anti construction
      Anti farming
      Pro muslim women

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      • No – everyone knows it was Trumps fault. I saw it on CNN – and they would lie …. (would they?).

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    • But it would be Trump’s fault not our own governance anyway. Jacinda will keep being the Pacific’s money machine though.

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      • I did not hear any ums or arhs. I heard a very clear statement of intent to remove the current government. The point made by Stephen Joyce that only 13% of fuel tax/excise collected is being used for roads was reiterated well.

        I heard a confident man in Simon Bridges who has no doubt the voters have been taken by the current Coalition down a path to less than mediocrity and he is going to turn that around. Good to hear.

        Good interview from Peter Williams in he let the interviewee speak without interruption.

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  7. I was going to say, what the hell does it have to do with Helen Clark and then I read this bit.

    In cellphone footage taken of the event, a student actor says: “Since it’s unfair to have a male in a position of power these days, she’s made the managing partner castrate himself. His testicles have been donated to Helen Clark.”

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/08/helen-clark-calls-for-sponsors-to-withdraw-from-foulmouthed-canterbury-law-revue.html

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    • Threats to your future career prospects if you dont toe the line so much for free speech & having a bit of fun anywhere snaggle tooth is involved
      “Something is horribly wrong. Maybe a note on their academic transcripts? To signal how serious this is, how poorly it reflects on their characters. Also, how is a joke about a senior partner cutting off his genitals (& giving them to Helen Clark) to keep his job funny?”
      Extremely funny actually Marianne ya miserable git

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    • The question is how do they actually achieve this? Google uses https which means that even schools using N4L are having issues filtering thumbnail images on image searches. The subsequent clicking on the image does not open the webpage it is hosted on, but it seems almost impossible to filter this adequately. Age checks? Kids will get around these and VPNs and anti Geo blocking make this difficult to enforce. The bottom line is that parents need to sit down with their kids and have a discussion on porn and why it is bad for them. Prohibition seldom works.

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    • …..”he raises points worth discussing.”……

      A rough precis would suggest that the author is a fan of mass hypnosis which is what religion is. Rather than the herdings of cats that individualism produces, society is a homologous mess marching in lockstep with something that doesn’t exist.

      The power wielded by those who control such a group of zombies worries me greatly.

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      • It exists alright Naaska.
        What “it” is, is the knowing we are weak.
        The child inside us, is vulnerable, scared and demands nurturing. (The sub-conscience)
        Most only see what they “want” to see.
        The precipice is closer than they realize.
        If you believe there is good, you believe there is evil.
        If you believe there is a Heaven, you believe there is a hell.
        If you believe there is a God, you believe there is a Satan.
        It is a constant battle within ourselves.

        I recently read an article written by a psycho-analyst, who after interviewing many patients, convicts and troubled individuals, determined anxiety triggers depression.
        Depression,( deep depression) in many patients conjures up thoughts of self harm, suicide OR murder or both.
        The best cops are taught to think like a criminal.
        The line is very,very fine.
        Those in power know this and intentionally manipulate that line through lies, deception, greed and of course fear.
        That is the “it.”

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      • You are correct DigNap. More chance of small employers taking a chance with a new staff member when the decision can be undone without it costing an arm and a leg for someone who turns out to be unsuitable.

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    • Great policies.
      I’d like them all done in the first 60 days. (Labour took 100)
      And announce the targets and update the results every six months.

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    • 90 day trials were great. You need to remember, you could not just dismiss someone on the 89th day.
      There was a rigid process you had to go through with the employee. For example, after 30 days ( or 20 or whatever) you would sit down and discuss the issue or the problem with the employee, document it, attach a plan for the employee going forward ( retraining etc), then give the employee the chance to rectify the problem. Rinse and repeat after 60 days. If there was still a problem you would go the next step, and so on. This is the correct way of moving an employee on. The paperwork trail of this process must be 100% correct and accurate as well as speaking the correct lingo at the right time. Ensuring that the employee is offered the opportunity of a support person, as well as the employer having a witness present, is vital.

      So..90 day trials actually did work..but as per liarbor, if it’s working, break it.

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    • Thinking back, was it not Paula Bennett who was given the position of “Minster of Stupid Rules”..or something to that effect sometime back?. National had identified many ridiculous HSE handbrakes, stupid rulings/laws etc and she was given the task of knocking a few on the head. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t believe anything came of it?

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      • Jacqui Dean said something on it at Tim McIndoe’s forum a couple of months ago, they did repeal some and will continue when next in government.

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    • What about landlords? Will they be able to claim costs again in relation to negative gearing of investment property?

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    • What about the fisting event that Goff and co supplied ratepayers money to last year, is that still a runner? WTF is it with liarbor types and perverted sexual deviance? They really are a grubby lot.

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      • Phool Goof wanted to drop the age of consent for girls to 12yrs!
        Why would he do that?
        Was he pushing the muzzie barrow or was he support the Labour sex perverts?

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    • All that virtue signalling means nobody can tell a joke or say what they really think unless they offend the group think. The most miserable out-virtues the virtuous. With the economy heading down the numbers will only get worse. Cindy and Grant’s well-being budget is a crock. No wonder Winston is in such a foul mood.

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    • Has Mike King handed his resignation to Jacinda yet go e publcon Jacinda woeful effort on Mental Health and suicide, surely he can’t carry on after working out on National because he didn’t think they could reach his target.

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  8. A lot of our water pollution is caused by people like me spewing up whenever they see our leader wearing her hijab.
    I cant buy a plastic bag, so I run to my nearest river.
    And maybe our freindly Freedom Campers.

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  9. A year ago the Free Speech Coalition was launched as a result of Auckland Mayor Phil Goff’s announcement that he was ‘banning’ of two controversial Canadian speakers from the Council-owned Bruce Mason Centre.

    New Zealanders like you and I said “no” to Mr Goff, and donated time and money to create the “Free Speech Coalition”.

    Many of us had never heard of the Canadian speakers before the controversy, but we certainly don’t trust politicians to tell us who we are allowed and not allowed to see, hear from, and debate.

    It was the spark that set off the free speech debate in New Zealand.

    Robert, the wheels of justice turn very slowly in New Zealand, and our legal case against Phil Goff and Auckland Council will be heard over two days next week starting at 10am on Monday 2 September at the Auckland High Court.

    Auckland High Court

    Though it has taken more time than we had hoped, we have proceeded with the case to achieve a Court precedent protecting free speech (including the freedom to choose who we can hear from). If we are successful, the case would prevent what happened to Don Brash at Massey University – where the Vice-Chancellor used a flimsy apparent ‘threat’ to cancel an event she did not like.

    We want to ensure that authorities are required to test the reality of alleged dangers from threatened protest and prevent “health and safety” concerns being used as a political and administrative trump card.

    Donate

    If you are in Auckland on Monday, please come along to the hearing and show support for our complainants and the work your generosity has made possible.

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  10. In the dark watches of the night, I suspect it is not the deeds of the dead generations that weigh upon the brain of Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, but those of her colleagues in government who are still very much alive.

    With every passing week, the combined effect of the Ardern Ministry’s blunders, boasts and botch-ups makes the job of Simon Bridges and the National Opposition easier and easier. The legendary King Midas turned everything he touched into gold. The most common by-product of the present Coalition Government’s hands-on exertions is considerably more malodorous and much less valuable.

    https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/101361/chris-trotter-asks-whether-jacinda-ardern%E2%80%99s-government-critical-mass-talent-or

    Well that says it all.

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    • Isn’t that what you get when you have our type of coalition? Multi faceted, two faced etc.
      Shit, that’s right, diversity.
      Another thing ….Bert and Ernie really should have hosted the Muppets. Not a greenie.
      Just sayin… sigh..

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  11. An ex pornstar had left the trade and gotn herself a boyfriend. Before they had sex, she was worried hed ask why her vagina was so loose, so she told him she got it caught on a fence. After they made love he looked at her and asked ‘how far across the paddock were u when u noticed it was caught?!

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  12. A man walks into a pharmacy and says “Wheres the tampons ?”
    The assistant replies “Over there mate.”
    The man returns with cotton wool balls & toilet paper.
    “Thought you wanted tampons ?”
    “Yeah well last week I asked the wife to buy me a 20 pack of fags, but she came back with a pouch of tobacco – so we’ll see how she likes rolling her own !”

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  13. Do we have any male CEO of government departments? All the admitted failures are by women, sad to say.

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  14. A reminder of why Orana Tamariki is needed.

    The 3-year-old was put in a clothes dryer spinning for 30 minutes on a hot setting, hung on a clothesline and spun around, held over a burning fire, used to practise wrestling moves, folded into a couch and sat upon, shoved into piles of rubbish and cold baths, dragged half naked through a sandpit, thrown at walls and dropped from heights, and had various objects hurled at her.

    Oriwa Kemp was 17 when Nia died and was jailed for assaulting the little girl.

    Nia’s mother Lisa Kuka was convicted of manslaughter.

    Her boyfriend Wiremu Curtis and his brother Michael were jailed for life after being found guilty of Nia’s murder.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12261988&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&fbclid=IwAR3wKbaS6rrSaBfkuygM5thYXRlMJ08fQVHeFaN3yZP_LBvXH6TIXEO5UGo

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    • And she had 5 children taken and there were still men happy to have unprotected sex with her.

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    • Kemp says she doesn’t want anyone to feel sorry for her.
      Just as well since that would cause her another of life’s disappointments.
      How dare she inflict her miserable sordid life on innocent children – another generation to grow up without a stable home and loving family.

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