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Received the following message from the Waikato co-ordinator for DemocracyNZ

Hello everyone,

Hope you are all doing well and enjoying the pockets of sunshine we finally get peaking through from time to time now.

We have a café catch up for anyone interested and who can make it – this coming Tuesday, August 15th at 10am, at The Verandah Cafe, located at the Hamilton Lake.

Great company & conversation – and i’ll have a heap of flyers, fence signs and bumper stickers for anyone who would like some.

Hope to see you there

Thanks

Crystal

Mrs Holy and I will be there.

246 COMMENTS

  1. “By 2030 cheques will no longer be used in Australia ” the Jimmy Dore show just now , and people are outraged ,FFS these same banks did that to us 2 or 3 years ago to whimpering noises from our populace ,this shows what happens to a Country’s people when a tyrannical government led by a rat cunning woman using a fake pandemic to suppress her sheeplike compliant population.
    We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the people that turned up to protest at parliament, that’s what broke that pig Arderns will to turn this country into a communist 3rd world shithole..
    Unfortunately it may have been to late to stop the rot we are about to witness.

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    • Who the hell would still want to use cheques ?

      It is not 1955 with Marty McFly and his Calvin Klein undies.

      I have set up 2 software configs in AU this year and neither uses cheques.
      That is for the backward yankees who still use miles and feet, pounds to measure weight, fahrenheit temperatures, and as a country that embraces mass murder at home and abroad I would not be keen to follow.
      I guess using an imperial system suits them !!

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      • The people in Gisborne way, would have liked to have used their old cheques when that digital stuff was all down, when there was a bit of rain.

        In a total unrelated place, a fault developed.
        The people who were trying to chase me down as I replied to them, the accounts can not come through as & nor can I now make payment, even if I come around to your place, when mentioning a cheque would have been ok.
        What a fuck round! — for about 2-3 months early this year, as it took so long to get Spark & Chorus to do anything.

        Found out that a number of people & business’s also suffered earlier, for a considerable period of time, & so it seems to be ongoing issues.

        Fuck even Spark got threatening when I told them, they should have sent the account by snail mail, as they still not fixed things.
        Then NZ Post wants to me to receive the account digitally, for my Private Box number, when their business is supposed to be in mail. !

        Yes I may seem to be a Luddite, but many of the changes do not always save money or time.

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        • Notice to S1
          You want cheques !!
          In five years the chance of using a credit card as you do now may be gone.

          There is a large volume of people who do not pay any interest on credit cards. They get up to 55 days free credit from a bank. For a $20 to $80 a year credit card fee.
          The banks hate this. They were less powerful in the 1980s when these became prevalent.
          They are more powerful now. Way more.
          This will change.
          Probably pushed by the US (the imperialist warmongers) to use phone payment so the US phone coys (Google and Apple) clip the ticket on each transaction, and the bank can deduct your money immediately and not in up to 55 days.
          There was a reason the US wanted to kill off non US phone companies – who were far better than them – RIM/Blackberry and Nokia.

          Most kids under 30 will not work this out so will go along with it .
          You oldies will die off.
          syonara

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          • I think you are missing S1’s point. I think he lives well out of town and what he is saying if the banks and the corporates want people like him to use their new technology they need to provide the infrastructure so he can use it. Equally they need to have better infrastructure, to support those that change over, in the event of disasters.

            The banks still manage to make massive profits.

            I have never paid interest on my credit card and never used the 55 days ( I did not know it existed!)

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            • You are missing my point.
              Cheques are gone. Not coming back.
              At this stage ‘disaster planning’ is based on cash.
              Not ideal but that is the current back up.

              What I am saying is that credit cards are likely to change soon and be discouraged. My ANZ sent an email copy of the statement until only 3 years ago, then stopped that and sent only a text reminder that it is there so I have to login and download the Stmt.
              Now in the last few moths they stopped the text reminder AND take up to a week to post the Stmt online. They are killing off credit cards .

              up to– 55 days free credit. That is the norm.
              I have a Statement cycle date of 4th of the month .
              So cycle starts 4th of August. I get a stmt for 3 Sept, have to pay on 28th Sept. So what I buy on 4 or 5 th Aug on C/C is paid on 28 Sept hence approx 55 days free credit and about 25 days for the final purchases on 2 or 3 Sept.
              not good for banks.
              They get the merchant fee but can get that off other means than a free credit C/C

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          • Like wise on the Credit Card, if paid timely, with in that 55 days.
            But every 6 months they charge a fee!

            But compare & contrast what a retailer will charge you compared to the choice of receiving cash or eft pos or even the old cheque, to a credit card & now the wavecard.

            Same as the wave contactless card, or whatever where that name is a total misnomer, as fees are charged to the retailer.
            Bear in mind, if it is free, then you are the product.

            Then with all this digital banking, the ongoing, increasing security mission-creep, to guard against hackers, as well as the scammers, phishing etc…
            There is a cost that then will be deviously applied to the supposed customer, client, that is the product.

            Always bringing about changes, that seem to be a way to blind and try to shift the customer’s response, but is it really for the better & for who & how to cover the devious charges & fees.

            Technology, only recently was that the autotellers could read the cheque, and you could confirm what it read, then bank in the other person’s bank account. So why the change?
            All gone as the cheque is now not allowed. !

            Hilarious when I checked with a bank on the bank number, wanting to confirm the name of the account,
            The bank’s devious response was to tell me that they could not confirm that, due to privacy reasons.
            Fuck when I gave a cheque out to many different people & companies, it had my bank account numbers & trade name, so why now the devious hiding of things. !

            Locally the bank hours are well trimmed back, but the staff have told me they work every day, on the phones to sort out their bank customer problems, which is not so easy to do, as always checking on just what they can & can not do, to help that phone in customer.

            It pisses me off when I try to chose options like having 2 cards so I can double what I can pay, when they will not lift my limit, so I have to put up with a total 2 4 hourshut down of the card.

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      • Howitis,, shit Howitis have you got an early drinking buddy named Kea?? I wasn’t making the case for having cheques or not just contrasting how the removal of that banking service was accepted in the two countries, pull your fucking head in FFS..

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  2. Thank you Ed I will be there also to see what they talk about and discuss. I was saddened by the resignation/sacking of 4 people standing, as I had thought they were very good candidates. I hope they will discuss why they went/reasons and perhaps give me a reason to actually vote this time. As I look at the candidates and shake my head and think that there is NO ONE worthy of voting for, even though I know no vote is a vote for liarbor the Maori party and the greens. What difference would national, act or NZ first make????? None that I am aware of. It will all be much of a muchness taking us further into the mire of a fourth world country as far as I can tell.
    Have a great day out there you never know…….

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    • Lizzie, they were not good candidtaes. they were there to push their own barrows and would have destroyed all the work done as has happened over here. They will all be gone to oblivion soon. Irrelevant in the scheme of things.
      Might rock over myself.

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        • Not so.
          either you are a team player or your not. like Cranston he wasn’t.
          But that shouldn’t pout you off.
          The important issue is the policy and all both those people wanted would have been satisfied with in the policy.
          They were essentially not interested in the rest of the policy and then there is the money thing.
          No big brother to make big grants, No govt. funding worth that much unlike all the others so they had to self-fund like all the other candidates.
          They had yo find their own funding.
          all added upto them being disatisfied so they essentially were not the right persons for the job.

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          • With them DNZ were at 1.9 and rising.
            Without them they’re at 0.1% and still falling.
            I suppose it depends what you consider irrelevant.
            Most of the other candidates need their feeding instructions pinned to their shirts.

            Lizzie: you won’t get the full story from the party faithful. There were conspiracy theories, and internal leaking, and malicious intent. Those that left were devious plotters, rabidly incompetent and of course blinded by jealousy.
            None of which says much for the party that chose them – but don’t mention poor judgement or bad handling of the talent.

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      • We should have a secret code to be aware of all the YSB contributors at the DNZ meeting. I do know Ed and Waikato Girl so if you do also we could congregate at some stage. It would be interesting to meet up.

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  3. TAH, You’re right actually TAH, if you corner a rat it’ll attack you no matter how big you are ,that smelly ugly horsefaced cnut turned and bolted for the airport like the cowardly bastard she always was, that is also an indication of her caucus who must have known she was an empty sock POS yet said nothing to her about her tyrannical treatment of their Countrymen and women.
    Could you imagine that mealy mouthed greasy self serving dog Willie Jackson saying ” Hang on a minute Jacinda let’s take time to have a cup of tea and think about this” NO fucking way.

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    • Both Cameron Slater and Matthew Hooton have gone as far to describe Ardern as “evil”. Hooton in particular, made a good argument (on one of his appearance on Bombers Working Group podcast) that actively promoting yourself as embodying kindness and empathy and campaigning on notions like child poverty while actively doing the complete opposite when in power is a pretty strong prima facie case supporting his opinion. It’s hard to disagree with that. Her fake compassion and performative caring were ultimately unmasked and she did a runner as many have speculated.

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      • ardern acted with malice.
        pure malice.
        The media scum were right in behind.

        If you could not see that by mid 2019 you are very stupid.
        There are a lot of stupid people in NZ. 50% of them voted for adren in 2020 based on feelz and scaredy catness.
        more stupids voted gween.
        forgetaboud the scribble faeces .

        If you are standing in a line of 6 to get a coffee, buy a ticket, at a checkout, chances are 4 of the people there are stupid. Is it you?
        a mask won’t stop the stupid chasing you.

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        • Well we know the creep and cross-dresser Fruity farrar is pro war, and pro Ukraine.
          Like ACT and van velden/Seymour

          https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/08/we_must_do_more_for_ukraine.html

          His followers, not so much
          Judging by comments, One does wonder why they are still there and some presumably fund his patreon.
          Slater did call farrar a pinko for years. Clearly he knew that ; as is ragingly apparent now.

          Not sure on Slaters position but he used the very expensive Brian Henry who has been close to Peters ; and would have a huge legal bill to work off.
          I guess he can’t go off piste against his funders.

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          • I went there for the first time in ages. Looked at his donate page.
            Read this;

            I make very little money off advertising on Kiwiblog. After tax around $12,000 a year which equates to around $10 an hour.
            If you enjoy Kiwiblog we are now set up to take donations which will help cover both running costs of Kiwiblog and my time.

            The cost of running the blog is easily covered by his advertisers.

            Did you notice my donation page? A little plagiarism might go a long way 🍺🍺🍺🍷🍷🍷🍸🍸
            If you enjoy kiwiblog YSB, we are now set up to take donations which will help cover both running costs of kiwiblog YSB, and my time.
            Thanks to those who have already donated. You know who you are.

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  4. That top meme must be me in another 20yrs, i have that mindset now but im just not an old coot yet.

    Can someone whos attending that dnz cafe meet please bring up matts 2% electorate vote and 0.1% party vote.
    I genuinely want to know how they spin that, its a good gauge on how much other bullshit theyre feeding the poor cultists following them.

    Now read that first meme again before you downtick 🙂

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      • Im a reality beleiver vikey, farrar may be a twat but his company isnt msm and nor are TPU.
        ALL polls show pretty much the same trends too. Only what, 60? Days to go until a big I TOLD YA SO whacks you around the head ole chap.

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    • They could have one packet of gingernuts. That should be enough.

      DNZ wont be here in 2026 ..if there is an election
      Climate emergency and all.
      Both Chris’s are in on that fraud.
      TBH, moreso luxon.

      The chap portrayed in pic 1 is a billionaire who appreciates the finest of coffee.
      Not so bad, really.
      Ín real life, the actor was, for 50 years, what kea tries to fakely present himself as , with dismal results.
      Not even in the ballpark.

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    • Open to know if the polls are a true reflection of anything? It actually doesn’t matter whatever you think, you are just one of millions that will either vote one of the tried and true liars, but at least give them a chance. Possibly/probably Nats started with a wing and a prayer as did liarbor, NZ 1st Greens Maori. Every party starts off with beggar all votes, but they gain momentum or not in time. It is worth going along to see what they say or have you already been and still hold the same opinion. So SB are you voting liarbor, greens or Maori party? Just asking for a friend/ friends

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  5. I hate to criticize the National euphoria that’s enveloping the country this morning but was a two year old child left unattended in a garden where she could just wander off for 6 hours and will Chippie and nude nut call press conferences to celebrate along with the rest of the country, LOL.

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    • Was it a brown kid?
      To be fair tho theres plenty of shithouse unattentive whitey parents too.

      10yrs ago i had to carry my best mates 18mnth old son in a casket all because a shit fucking mother would piss off and leave her 2 kids under 5 unattended. When i read about that kid going missing last night and it mentioned a creek it sent shivers down my spine as water is like a magnet to lil kids and never ends well.
      Glad this was a good outcome but i doubt anything will change with the circumsrances that lead to it, they may be vigilant for the next few weeks but theyll revert back to their lax parenting ways.

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    • And at the same press conference, both Labour and National will celebrate the NZ Woman’s Football Team and NZ Netball dismal failures at both Women’s World Championship Tournaments and at the same time ignore the NZ Cyclist’s achievements at the World Championships over the weekend and Scott Dickson’s lifetime achievements.

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  6. 🚨 Groundswell 🚨
    NZs environmental spokesperson Jamie McFadden is visiting the Waikato on August 15th and 16th.

    Jamie will be addressing the details of the Freshwater Farm Plans, which go live in the Waipa on August 1st. Jamie will also speak about Indigenous Biodiversity and Carbon Farming.

    For more information, please contact area coordinator Lee Smith 0211329207
    This week ;—-
    🚨 Morrinsville
    August 15th : Tuesday : 7:00 pm.
    Rotary Community Hall,
    45 Canada Street,
    Morrinsville.

    🚨 Te Kuiti
    August 16th : Wednesday : 1:00 pm.
    Waitete Rugby Club,
    55 Waitete Road,
    Te Kuiti

    🚨 Te Awamutu
    August 16th : Wednesday : 7.00pm
    Te Awamutu Sports Club,
    Albert Park Drive,
    Te Awamutu.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=241858568738526&set=a.113439438247107

    Seems to be organized by Steve Cranston & Lee Smith, former DNZ candidates.

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    • ….organized by Steve Cranston & Lee Smith, former DNZ candidates.

      compare and contrast attendances to DNZ

      oops
      I triggered the curtain guy.
      He’ll post something from fakebook to compensate 🙂

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  7. Spent the weekend in Omaha. Probably the most soulless place I’ve ever been to, the people are like robots and look at you like you’re scum who are going to rip them off or even worse, not mow the lawn properly. I’m fairly sure invasion of the body snatchers was filmed there.

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  8. Election 2023: Property owners to foot the bill for Labour’s tax policy

    Commercial and industrial building owners would essentially foot the bill for the removal of goods and services tax (GST) from fruit and vegetables if Labour was elected to govern after the October election.

    Meanwhile the party would pay for other tax changes, aimed at helping low and middle-income earning families, by dipping into money set aside at the Budget for unspecified future expenditure.

    Labour is campaigning on spending over $500 million a year to remove GST from fresh and frozen fruit and vegetables from April next year.

    The cost of this would be offset by it preventing non-residential building owners from writing off depreciation as an expense when paying tax.

    The Government started allowing non-residential building owners to make these deductions in 2020, as it sought to support businesses in the face of Covid-19. The change was understood to be permanent at the time.
    Reverting the rules back to the way they were pre-Covid would cost property owners about $545m a year.

    Labour is also promising to boost the In-Work Tax Credit by $25 a week to $97.50 from April next year, and lift the Working for Families abatement threshold to $50,000 from April 2026.

    Once fully implemented in 2026, these changes would cost about $450m a year.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/election-2023-property-owners-to-foot-the-bill-for-labours-tax-policy/4I7POZ2XTZGA7CX5SRBXREONOI/

    up the rents go. more businesses close. and go offshore just as they have done before.
    These people are fucking mad in the head.

    Oh and commercial/ industrial building is also a farm shed, milking platform, meat works and a milk processing plant and a vege/ fruit processing plant.
    They haven’t said so but IRD will. It gives them the licence to do so if this goes thru.

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  9. Talking about Luxon.

    He would be seen by voters as particularly diligent, rational, and perhaps just a little too prepared – leading to the perception of a lack of authentic spontaneity in relating to people. He is not “disagreeable” in the sense of going on the attack. He did express his concern about New Zealanders in general, in the sense that they were “wet and whiny”. But this can be interpreted as his frustration that they are not yet on board with the Luxon programme of getting back on the right track rather than targeting individual Kiwis for being the enemy of such progress.

    Luxon can get votes from those who see him as the nice guy who will get things back where they should be, without too much disruption.

    Who is going to get the votes from those who want disruption, who believe it is time for some aggro? You can probably see where this is going.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/stewart-forsyth-will-the-preferred-prime-minister-lead-the-next-government/C4E6MDN36JB2VGC72CXX7B3KK4/

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  10. A growing number of leprosy cases are being reported after COVID-19 vaccination, including two cases in the United Kingdom that researchers said may have been caused by the vaccines.

    The researchers examined records from the Leprosy Clinic at the Hospital for Tropical Diseases in London. They found that of the 52 people who went to the clinic in 2021, at least 49 were vaccinated.

    The study definition of a leprosy adverse event associated with a COVID-19 vaccine included developing leprosy or a leprosy reaction within 12 weeks of receiving a dose and the person having no previous history of leprosy or a leprosy reaction.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/growing-number-of-leprosy-cases-reported-after-covid-19-vaccination-5454131?utm_source=top5noe&src_src=top5noe&utm_campaign=top5-2023-08-13&src_cmp=top5-2023-08-13&utm_medium=email&est=3zT5EkO5uJ9565sO6pongMqoUFFTWVvpICZpLe5PT4iY%2B%2BP8wA4jLBOuersUQUE%3D

    Another disease added to the list.
    busted immune systems.

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  11. I think the no gst on fruit and veg, will / has cost Chris Hipkins and will be another nail in his coffin!
    I mean, why would you? What’s the point? Jesus, what on earth were you thinging?
    The only people grining are your enemies and they can’t believe their luck //////

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    • He would have been much better off announcing no gst on fast food outlets. McDonalds, KFC, F&C, Burger King, Subway, any outlet with a drive through.
      The possible votes would have guaranteed him the election.

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      • ……” McDonalds, KFC, F&C, Burger King, Subway, any outlet with a drive through.”……

        They’re already on board the Left’s gravy train. If you have the good sense not to ‘dine’ in any of them park outside & observe their fat, unwashed clientèle.

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    • It all gets rather stupid now over the GST

      Will GST be removed from mushrooms?
      These are a fungus. Neither fruit nor vegetable
      A useful fungus, unlike most politicians

      Will GST be removed from lemon plants, and mandarin plants that grow fruit?

      so frozen peas have no GST but tinned peas do.
      go camping at Xmas and take frozen peas as it is cheaper 🙂

      Will GST be removed from the plastic packing around fruit or vegetable. This would be an anachronism and surely should have its own ‘save the planet’ tax ?

      why is fresh milk not included ?
      Will it be added later.
      more low income families would purchase milk regularly than fresh fruit and vege.

      …A fun fact about the tomato is that it is legally considered a ‘vegetable’ in the United States of America. The Supreme Court ruled that the tomato should be classified as vegetable rather than a fruit in 1893 for tax reasons, vegetables at the time were taxed where as fruits were not…
      so it starts to get even more silly now , doesn’t it !!

      Nicola Willis called it.
      Can she just announce the rest of liebour ‘policy’ now thanks.
      ——————-
      this is all pushed by these wankers so you know it is a BAD idea
      ….But the Better Taxes for a Better Future campaign by the Fair Tax Coalition, which is supported by organisations such as First Union, Amnesty International and Renters United, said it was a welcome step…..
      Fuckwits of the first order.

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      • I don’t think any of this matters, unless the Nats come out and say they will also remove the GST. Knowing full well that ACT will not support it, and will be the first policy they will let go.
        I don’t trust them not to do this.

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    • Sooty, this is just another Policy from the non thinking student politician, Hipkins. Anyone who thinks he has more clues than his own Tax Advisory Group which Labour set up on this matter in 2019 and who said the Policy, Hipkins has now announced was a Dog, deserves to be totally ridiculed and he needs to be put back in his kennel.

      There is nothing positive Ardern, Hipkins or Labour has done since 2017 that has benefited this country and this policy just proves Hipkins is a Grade A, Class 1, Dumb Fuckwit.

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    • I am sure they forgot the essentialness of nuts. 🙂 or had the Greens squeezed Chippy’s dry.
      In particular the Brazil Nut, which has an essential mineral, Selenium which is deficient in NZ soils, & important for humans.
      New Zealanders have traditionally got around this by being meat & fish eaters, & some veges, though that makes a point in that the NZ soils are deficient, so just how much can be in NZ veges & fruit.

      Folic acid now compulsorily added as an essential ingredient to bread.
      So why is not bread free of GST?

      As some have pointed out, the slippery slope will spread.

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  12. Biden Admin Concedes No Evidence Behind Recommendation for 6 COVID Booster Shots a Year

    President Joe Biden’s administration concedes that there is no scientific evidence to support an apparent recommendation to receive as many as six COVID-19 booster shots in a year.

    After Health Secretary Xavier Becerra, a Biden appointee, wrote in a social media post on Nov. 29, 2022, that people should get vaccinated “if it’s been over 2 months since your last dose,” the Functional Government Initiative (FGI) filed a Freedom of Information Act request for documents supporting the statements.

    The watchdog organization then sued after the administration didn’t comply with timelines laid out in the law.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/biden-admin-admits-no-evidence-behind-6-covid-booster-shots-a-year-recommendation-5449289?utm_source=top5noe&src_src=top5noe&utm_campaign=top5-2023-08-13&src_cmp=top5-2023-08-13&utm_medium=email&est=MsEpEgIF0fqKGoQH7imH7MeneM6cI7Mv2aBlGCfa2zuN9aLwWCnj7W4zLmrpe9U%3D

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  13. Was gonna post a joke about Dwarfs but decided against it.
    Sometimes you just have to be the bigger person.

    What is it about our political leaders?
    Luxon is shorter than Seymour, who .is about the same as the drunken dwarf. Chippie is about the same. Matt is the only one of any normal stature

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  14. An elderly man wants a job, but the foreman won’t hire him until he passes a little maths test:
    “Here is your first question.” The foreman says.

    “Without using numbers, represent the number nine?”
    “Without numbers?” The old man says. “That’s easy.”

    And he proceeds to draw three trees.

    “What’s this?” The boss asks.

    “Have you no brain? Tree plus tree plus tree makes nine.” Says the old man.
    “Fair enough.” Says the boss.

    “Here’s your second question. Use the same rules, but this time the number is 99?”

    The man stares into space for a while, then picks up the picture that he has just drawn and makes a smudge on each tree and hands it back.

    The boss scratches his head and says.
    “How on earth do you get that to represent 99?”

    “Each of the trees is dirty now. So, it’s a dirty tree plus a dirty tree plus a dirty tree. That makes 99.”

    “All right, last question. Same rules again, but represent the number 100?”

    The old man stares into space again; he then picks up the picture and makes a little mark at the base of each tree and hands it back.

    The boss looks at the man’s picture.
    “You must be nuts if you think that represents a hundred?”

    The old man leans forward and points to the marks at the base of each tree and whispers.

    “A little dog came along and pooped by each tree. So now you got dirty tree and a turd, plus dirty tree and a turd, plus dirty tree and a turd, which makes 100.”

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    • Now, one of your best for a while.
      Three trees out of Three trees for that.

      Never forgotten years ago when I went to Ireland (hated it, left after 6 days) via ship from North Wales to Dunleary /Dún Laoghaire, the port near Dublin. I got on the bus to go into town.
      The ticket collector asked for tirty tree pence , tirty tree pence about 6 times. In the end I just held out my hand with change and said take it.
      The Dublin accent is very guttural as you get in the bigger cities over that way.
      tirty tree = 33.
      I know this now.

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  15. The Year 6 science teacher, Mrs. Parks, asked her class, “Which human body part increases to ten times its size when stimulated?”

    No one answered until little Mary stood up and said, “You should not be asking primary school kids a question like that! I’m going to tell my parents, and they will go and tell the principal, who will then fire you!”

    Mrs. Parks ignored her and asked the question again, “Which body part increases to 10 times its size when stimulated?”

    Little Mary’s mouth fell open. Then she said to those around her, “Boy, is she going to get in big trouble!”

    The teacher continued to ignore her and said to the class, “Anybody?”

    Finally, Billy stood up, looked around nervously, and said, “The body part that increases 10 times its size when stimulated is the pupil of the eye.”

    Mrs. Parks said, “Very good, Billy,” then turned to Mary and continued.

    “As for you, young lady, I have three things to say: One, you have a dirty mind. Two, you didn’t read your homework. And three, one day you are going to be very, very disappointed.”

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  16. One (Vodafone) NZ cops biggest Fair Trading Act breach fine for misleading customers

    One NZ was found by the Auckland District Court in 2021 to have misled consumers into believing its FibreX service was fibre-to-the-home broadband, when it was not. It was also found to have been falsely suggesting to consumers that FibreX was the only available broadband service at their address, which was not true.

    The company was sentenced in April 2022 on 18 representative charges under the Fair Trading Act relating to conduct in Wellington, Kapiti and Christchurch, where its FibreX-branded service was offered, between October 26, 2016, and March 28, 2018. It was fined $2.25m.

    That was appealed by the commission, which argued it was “manifestly inadequate” and did not appropriately reflect the seriousness of the offending, and the size and financial resources of the business.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/132737108/one-nz-cops-biggest-fair-trading-act-breach-fine-for-misleading-customers

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  17. See how they run for cover? Never asking themselves why.

    The Spinoff
    @TheSpinoffTV

    Replying to @TheSpinoffTV
    We will be reviewing how we use this platform (if at all) going forward, especially with an election coming up and ever-increasing levels of vitriol towards our writers. The best way to read our work is to visit http://thespinoff.co.nz and bypass the bigots

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  18. Doctor accuses Te Whatu Ora of ‘conspiracy’ to avoid public scrutiny of unsafe radiology practices

    In an extraordinary step, Dr Bryan Wolf, a consultant radiologist in Hawke’s Bay, has asked the Ombudsman to investigate what he describes as the national health authority’s failure to inform the public about significant safety risks in the radiology service where he is a senior medical officer.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/doctor-accuses-te-whatu-ora-of-conspiracy-to-avoid-public-scrutiny-of-unsafe-radiology-practices/GAMWJF5UP5AWXPFOXSK7RPJLUA/

    And then there is this to ponder…
    Father of two who’s spent his life serving the public told to consider Australia for funded cancer treatment

    https://www.waikatotimes.co.nz/a/nz-news/350049524/father-two-whos-spent-his-life-serving-public-told-consider-australia-funded?utm_source=stuff_website&utm_medium=stuff_referral&utm_campaign=stuff_skybox&utm_id=stuff_skybox

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  19. https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/08/14/kiwis-lining-up-in-droves-to-become-aussie-citizens/
    Kiwis lining up in droves to become Aussie citizens

    New figures have shown more than 15,000 New Zealanders have started the process for Australian citizenship since changes came into effect at the start of July

    Under the changes, agreed to by Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and New Zealand counterpart Chris Hipkins earlier this year, Kiwis who had been living in Australia for at least four years on a special category visa could apply for citizenship.

    Since July, about half of all citizenship applications have been from New Zealanders.

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  20. The beginnings of the slide in the $NZ?

    59.82 cents to the $US. Not calamitous but will stress things;—
    like diesel & petrol in transport costs on the inflation front.

    Last year in October $NZ went down to 55 cents then bounced back to circa 64 cents and circa 62 cents.
    Kiwi Bank economist.

    ….5th July 2023 … “Our forecast for the Kiwi dollar is sharply unchanged at 55c by year-end (if it ain’t broke, we won’t fix it). And we have grown in our conviction. Falling commodity prices, narrowing interest rate differentials, and weakening risk appetite should see it through,” says Kerr. ….
    https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/nzd/18954-new-zealand-dollar-double-dip-recession-forecast-at-kiwi-bank

    It used to be that for every cent down, the beef schedule would go up 10c, but now I am not so sure of the relatively,
    Also to consider it may ease the Fonterra down-drop in Milk Solids by a small amount.

    However other costs will rise, and many people do not click that inflation rate is a compounding affect & does not mean prices will go down if the inflation rate itself goes down.

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  21. Desperate spruikers are running real estate stories in a failed attempt to save the collapsed and dying market.

    Stuffed has a spruiking advertisement up today and it’s a shocker.

    The market is continuing to fall and they are panicking.

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    • Seems to be Luxon is aligned to be in the natural fascism’s succession after signing up with Ardern, Seymour & Ardern on Covidial mandates.
      “yep, yep that is what it is”
      .
      ….. to gain the support of the people you want to lead is to do something of benefit to them.
      Failing that, the next best thing is to convince them that you have done something of benefit to them, even though you really haven’t. ……
      .
      …. needed to convince the people of Italy that fascism was indeed a system that worked to their benefit.
      Thus was born the myth of fascist efficiency, with the train as its symbol. ….
      .
      ….. now offered as a sardonic example that something good can result even from the worst of circumstances.
      As Montagu and Darling wrote:—–
      .
      “Mussolini may have done many brutal and tyrannical things;
      he may have destroyed human freedom in Italy;
      he may have murdered and tortured citizens whose only crime was to oppose Mussolini;
      but ‘one had to admit’ one thing about the Dictator: he ‘made the trains run on time.’ ….

      https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/loco-motive/
      .
      A case of Air New Zealand on time?
      .
      The Auckland light rail, Te Huia Hamilton, to extend to Tauranga, overnight Wellington to Auckland, plus so much more, and damm the costs, over runs, subsidies. balancing the budgets etc..
      Do not even worry about the running the red lights, or is it Ardern’s covidial train of red lights?

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      • …Mussolini may have done many brutal and tyrannical things;
        he may have destroyed human freedom in Italy;
        he may have murdered and tortured citizens whose only crime was to oppose Mussolini
        —————————
        Sounds a lot like General Galtieri – the butcher of Buenos Aires.
        He was born 1926 at the height of Mussolini power.
        He seems to have followed a lot of the methodology.
        Whilst Argentina was originally spanish settled, it has a majority of Italian origin people. Over 40%.
        the most from any source in the country.
        Galtieri had the same brutal approach and was lauded and backed by USA for his anti communist stance.
        So loved by the yanks – a mass murderer in their own image- Reagan even asked the Iron lady to not send the warships in 1982.
        Thatcher :- Sorry Ronnie, we are on manoeuvres, my old China
        ——————-
        Wiki :- Leopoldo Fortunato Galtieri was born on 15 July 1926 in Caseros, Buenos Aires Province to working-class Italian Argentine parents Francisco Rosario Galtieri and Nélida Victoria Castelli.

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  22. 🚨🚨🚨🚨Breaking 🚨🚨🚨🚨

    Kiwis abandoning NZ in droves fuelling crash of the property market.

    Calls for filthy lying spruikers to be severely punished.

    Citizens of India, Philippines, China, South Africa, and Fiji drove net migration gains in the June 2023 year.

    But while migration is up, the provisional net loss of New Zealand citizens is the largest net migration loss since the April 2013 year.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/08/record-number-of-migrants-arrive-in-nz-as-kiwis-leave-in-droves-stats-nz.html

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      • I like the old bird he hit wanting acknowledgement of the crime with a recorded conviction for being a Granny puncher! Coward punch from the side of her head but he was charged with common assault. Should have been charged with GBH. What a low-life scum hitting a woman 50 years his senior!! He’s getting eased through the court, discharge without conviction even though he pled guilty, and wants permanent name suppression. Does his daddy have a Labour pardy membership? //

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  23. Anyone got a lazy $2m in the bank?

    https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/08/14/good-interest-in-rare-2m-ford-supercar-with-impressive-top-speed/
    There has been “good interest” in a rare supercar listed on TradeMe by a Christchurch Ford dealership with an asking price of just under $2m.

    The 2018 Ford GT is one of two in the country, and the only one to come in Shadow Black.

    It comes with just 1122kms on the odometer, $120k in factory extras, and even photos of the car being built in Canada.

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      • Will the piss ant Hipkins remove ALL
        mandates? Y’know, like the one that
        cost my wife her job because she refused
        the poison needle? The little bastard was
        the Health minister after all. Both him and
        that vile communist bitch have a lot to answer for.

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        • Bonster, the only good thing is that on 14th October, the lying weasel that is Hipkins, will take a huge pay cut in the early evening of the 14th October.

          He will never get such a good. long term, paying job again. While he may not get chucked out of Parliament, if he did, a job would not be easy to come by and I don’t think anybody employs known and proven liars. But there again I maybe wrong the equine that is Cindy, has got a gig, all be it for a short time.

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      • No word on that from that slimball Hipkins.
        His best shot was to praise the horse.

        In April, Cabinet reviewed the seven-day isolation rule and mandatory mask-wearing in most healthcare settings, and decided to keep them until the end of August to help ease the pressure on hospitals during the onset of winter.

        At the post-Cabinet press conference today, Prime Minister Chris Hipkins and Health Minister Ayesha Verrall announced that the last masking mandate and isolation requirements will be lifted at midnight tonight.

        There will instead be a recommendation to isolate for five days if you’ve tested positive.

        ”While not mandated, the Ministry of Health guidance is to stay at home for five days if you’re unwell or have tested positive,” Verrall said.

        Just yesterday I had a long conversation with a lady who was bullied out of her Catholic School job over mandates.
        She had already had cancer and was back at work and got very bullied. Just waiting for a chance to go to the employment court on the bullying etc.

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    • Are we sure we not trading out one to an even more unaccountable global authority.

      ….. 28 June 2023 …… Member States of the World Health Organization have agreed to a global process to draft and negotiate a convention, agreement or other international instrument under the Constitution of the World Health Organization to strengthen pandemic prevention, preparedness and response. …..
      https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/pandemic-prevention–preparedness-and-response-accord

      21 July 2022 …..This week, INB members agreed, through consensus, that they will work to conclude a new, legally-binding international pandemic agreement.
      They are working to conclude this agreement in May 2024. ….

      https://www.who.int/news/item/21-07-2022-pandemic-instrument-should-be-legally-binding–inb-meeting-concludes

      Does one expect any of these leaders Luxon, Seymour, Hipkins, & Shaw & their Parties would find reason not too sign up with the WHO Pandemic Treaty.
      Noting that its decisions will have final say in what goes on in NZ health systems in such an event, plus the usual ‘mission creep’.
      To look into & support the NZ Pandemic Plans, that were upgraded in 2017?

      The supposed hand brake, Winston Peters for a flight to Morocco was very ok to sign New Zealand up to the UN Global Migration Pact. as he was sure many of us misunderstood his views on immigrants.

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      • I would suggest S1, that the so-called
        political leaders of NZ have more than
        likely signed on the dotted line already.
        What is being postulated is merely a
        red herring. NZ is owned hook, line and
        sinker by the WHO, WEF etc.

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        • Agreed Bon.
          That is why all the current Parliamentarians deserve to be kicked out !
          Simply because they will not consider, reason or debate some of these issues.
          Claiming to hide behind, it is science, nor really even questioning some of the illogical things that flip & flop,

          If only one would kick over those traces & with some astuteness call some of these things out.
          Sure media, will suppress, but to make it so some in Parliament represents a view of about 30%, that is derived from the Minority that supported the Wellington Protest.

          After all the discoverers of Antarctica are given full recognition for all the scientific advancements like in radio waves, cellphone waves, etc… & awarded with Matariki public holiday, fully acknowledged & approved by those scientism Parliamentarians.

          So the social cohesion, the trust that people have had is being gutted, & though the Parliamentarians believe & are blinded that collectivism, might is right.
          A perverse result of following SDG’s, through ESG’s to govern us, with the religiosity of DEI based on that “scientism”.

          It is all so unbelievable, but now for so many, they are happy with what they follow in this new religion of collective scientism.

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          • Yes no quick fixes, Bon
            We may not know which way to swim, for the moment, but it is also important to keep treading water, stay afloat, even if very difficult, so at some stage we can figure things, like a light house, a beacon, the stars, or even the glaring sun, to which way to go.
            So long as we can still recall what Coast [principles] we are on. 🙂

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  24. You’ve got that right. Will NN take note?!

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/08/steven-joyce-s-advice-to-national-on-its-winston-peters-conundrum.html
    National’s former Finance Minister Steven Joyce says no matter what New Zealand First leader Winston Peters says ahead of an election “you can’t really trust him to come your way”.

    On Monday, Joyce joined AM ahead of the sale of his new memoir ‘Steven Joyce On The Record’ where he writes about his time in politics.

    Joyce told AM from his experience and dealings with Peters, especially during the 2017 election, “You can’t really trust him to come your way no matter what he says ahead of an election”.

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  25. Highly Anticipated Feature Documentary “RIVER OF FREEDOM” Premieres September 5
    Updated | Yesterday at 11:04 pm
    The Daily Examiner

    New Zealand film “RIVER OF FREEDOM” is set to release next month, with film premiere events in Auckland on September 5th at The Civic, Christchurch on September 6th at Hoyts Riccarton, and Wellington on September 7th at The Embassy.

    Following the premieres, New Zealand audiences will have the opportunity to experience this masterfully crafted documentary in selected cinemas nationwide.

    “RIVER OF FREEDOM” was made by professional filmmakers, present during the convoy & occupation, to document the heart of the protest—the largest protest in New Zealand’s recent history. Thousands of Kiwis came together and travelled the length and breadth of the country, waved on by those who lined the roads and overbridges in support of the convoy making its way to Wellington. Together they united to make a stand for democracy and bring an end the vaccine mandates. This is their story.

    https://www.thedailyexaminer.co.nz/highly-anticipated-feature-documentary-river-of-freedom-premieres-september-5/?fbclid=IwAR2eqVS7soCeqlIkg8yiRydOrKmceNP5LXe14PdXpbkKAFuxa-CoG1iD5Ic

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    • Will be worth while supporting.

      We Came Here For Freedom | Part 1
      https://rumble.com/v1y97jl-we-came-here-for-freedom-part-1.html
      50 minutes 28 secs : Corona Virus Plushie

      We Came Here for Freedom, Part 2
      https://rumble.com/v2xr7om-we-came-here-for-freedom-part-2-link-to-part-1-in-the-description-box.html
      1 hour 13 minutes : Corona Virus Plushie

      Bear in mind that polls at that time showed a Minority of people supporting the protesters in the Wellington, that is about 30%
      As this hits the theatres in September, it should raise further comment in the media, so make sure some buttons are pushed to keep that in mind.

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      • Did you believe those polls S1.? When you had thousands lining the highways cheering on the convoy in both islands, I call BS on that figure.

        Already booked in to see the “River of Freedom” film in Wellington later this month.

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      • Ross12 :—
        The Parliamentarians believe or ignore as they see fit, and 30% is plenty to play with.

        NZ First seems to figure there is plenty to play with to get over 5% & seems to achieved that despite the skepticism & lies in the past.

        Even earlier many of us thought that DNZ would also get a slice of that action.
        Just what went wrong? will one day become more clear, than just bare statements of trust me, & assumptions.
        All tossed up in just “whose principles” or egos?

        Whilst at the same time figuring that if National & in particular ACT had recognized some of the discrepancies of the vaccine, then another 5% + and probably much more would have really shown up in the polls.

        Then people turn around & say get over it, but by their actions too, they have spread the vote out into even more of a splintering of parties.

        My problem is that I do not want New Zealand signing up with the WHO Pandemic Treaty, and there is no Party that will question even question it.
        So why are all those Parliamentarian Parties in lockstep with the UN & the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals that cascade through ESG & DEI.

        All of based on fallacies, like about “Poverty & Well being”, so as we have also experienced that here in New Zealand.
        Poverty does not cause Crime. It is “Crime causes Poverty”

        Just like the fallacies about the vaccines are Safe, are efficacious, & stop transmission, then reduce hospitalization, etc.. and the WHO Pandemic treaty which is agreed to be binding.

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    • Awsome, was wondering how that was coming along as when they were on plunket last year they rekoned only 3months and it would be complete but guess $$$ and a few other hurdles slowed it up.

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  26. MORTGAGE/LOAN RATE CHANGES
    Westpac cut its two year home loan rate today. The Co-operative Bank and TSB both raised some fixed rates. And the Co-operative Bank raised its minimum personal loan rate from 6.99% to now 8.99%. The maximums haven’t changed.

    oh dear once again our resident bird shit picker is on the wrong side. More to slide.

    SERVICE SECTOR NOW IN GRIM POSITION
    Service sector activity took a clear hit in July with the PSI dropping to 47.8 from 49.6 in June. BNZ says: “That is concerning enough given it [is] indicating contraction for a significant share of the economy. But it is the details that reveal the real slump. The PSI activity/sales indicator sank to 39.6 in July from 50.9 in June. Outside of lockdown periods, this is the worst sales reading since the survey started in 2007 (including through the GFC). Adding to concerns, the new orders/business indicator also dropped heavily (to 43.8 from 50.4).”

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  27. “A hot steaming mess” – the perils of Australian taxation

    A particularly interesting session was on the taxation of trusts in the trans-Tasman context. the current state of Australia’s trust tax law was described as a “steaming hot mess”. I regularly encounter scenarios where trustees have migrated to Australia without considering the tax ramifications, and a steaming hot mess is perhaps an understatement of the consequences. Overall a very useful session.

    Incidentally, Australia and New Zealand are currently renegotiating the double tax agreement between the two countries. And the point was made that although as tax professionals we tend to look at tax treaties solely tax related, one panelist reminded everyone that they’re actually often part of bigger trade negotiations.

    https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/123624/new-zealand-tax-podcast-%E2%80%93-terry-baucher-rounds-week-big-election-proposals

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  28. I see the number of posts on YSB daily but wonder how many people take the time to view YSB but do not post or reply to a post.

    I know that I read YSB posts and uptick and occasionally downtick but don’t post very often.

    Internet Service providers provide data that shows how many people have accessed a website. Unless the Editor thinks that is privileged data I respectfully request that information.

    I think a lot of people like me read YSB but don’t post very often. I am going to ask the same question on kiwiblog.

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      • I don’t know whether you’re up to speed on matters ornithological but the differences between male & female Nestor notabilis come down to the male being about 5% longer than the female & the male’s upper beak being 12–14% longer than the female’s.

        The likelihood of getting it wrong after a night on the berries must be considerable. I reckon you should cut Kea a bit of slack if he picks the wrong cloaca now & again. 🙂

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  29. NZ and the MRNA@HopeRising19

    These Young New Zealanders have taken FOUR DOSES of covid vaccine

    159 Kiwi children aged 12 to 17

    33,758 young adults aged 18 to 34

    634,607 New Zealanders aged 35 to 49 are eligible for a FOURTH #CovidVaccine

    Only 106,558 of them accepted the invitation

    730,495 New Zealanders aged 50 to 64 are eligible for their FOURTH DOSE of #covidvaccine

    Only 279,242 of them accepted the invitation

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  30. NZ First’s participation in government is defined not so much by what it does, but by what it prevents its coalition partners from doing, Chris Trotter says

    Act’s radicalism may yet prove its undoing. Were Peters and NZ First to retire to the cross-benches, promising their support for any confidence motion in a National-Act minority government (in much the same way as the Greens promised their support for a Labour-Alliance minority government back in 1999) Luxon would become New Zealand’s next prime minister. The downside of this arrangement would be that he and his party would be governing as hostages to Act’s extreme policy agenda.

    While NZ First could vote for those items on National-Act’s agenda enjoying majority support, and for which it had also campaigned, this would not be the case when it came to Act’s hardline economic and social policies. As the time for National-Act to present their first Budget drew near, the question of whether Peters’ promise of confidence also included “supply” would become increasingly acute.

    https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/123612/nz-first%E2%80%99s-participation-government-defined-not-so-much-what-it-does-what-it

    Were NZ First to say “This far – but no further!” and join with Labour, the Greens and Te Pāti Māori in voting down a cruel austerity Budget, a new election would have to be called. With Act having demonstrated what it is made of, Peters and NZ First might humbly invite the electorate to provide National with a less extreme coalition partner. One not so determined to force unkind and unwanted policies down the electorate’s throat.Vote for Act if you must but Party vote DNZ. They are going to need a third partner that’s not winestone of the winebox.

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  31. On the way to town today i notice plenty of big national hoardings, on several theres an unappealing woke bald guy and a tranny looking woman.
    At least the electorate mp looks a bit more presentable but luxtard still occupies one half of his hoarding ffs.

    I really hope the lefties go hard and draw luxons head into a penis on as many as they can so nz can get to see the real luxon… the labour lite luxon that wants to continue fucking the country.

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  32. Tax experts respond to GST-free fruit and vegetables: ‘Populist’ and ‘stupid’

    Labour’s GST-free fruit and vegetables tax policy is being widely panned by experts, who say it is betting on voters’ ignorance.

    Announced on Sunday, the policy would see GST removed from unprocessed fresh and frozen fruit and vegetables, alongside a boost for Working for Families.

    Asked if he could name an economist or tax specialist who supported the GST change, leader Chris Hipkins came up short – so RNZ has approached a dozen and sought their views on the matter.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/tax-experts-respond-to-gst-free-fruit-and-vegetables-populist-and-stupid/ar-AA1feJjm

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  33. Aussies fear the same tactic.

    Daniel “Alec” Zeck
    @Alec_Zeck
    From what I’m gathering, lots of Maui residents believe the fire was a deliberate attack and land grab by the US government, ultimately backed by the WEF and its plans for Agenda 2030, snatching sacred land from sacred people under the guise of environmental protection and conservation, moving populations towards specified urban centers.

    JUL 27, 2007

    https://www.wired.com/2007/07/hawaiis-directe/

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  34. Other Peoples Money…

    Let’s Get Wellington Moving staff earn twice that of average Wellingtonian
    https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/08/14/lets-get-wellington-moving-staff-earn-twice-that-of-average-wellingtonian/

    National has slammed Let’s Get Wellington Moving for paying its staff high wages, claiming it is also failing to deliver on fixing the city’s transport congestion.

    Figures from Transport Minister David Parker, from a written Parliamentary question, show its 37 employees – a mixture of Waka Kotahi and Wellington City Council staff – earn an average salary of $148,736.

    Trade Me figures show Wellingtonians earn an average salary of around $73,000 a year.

    Meanwhile, data from the Public Service Commission shows public servants are paid around $95,000 a year for men and $88,000 for women.

    National transport spokesperson Simeon Brown said wages for staff at Let’s Get Wellington moving were unjustified.

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  35. Distraction time.
    Why just men?
    Great replacement theory busted?

    Major criminal investigation after dozens of migrants discovered living in squalid Auckland home

    Forty men were crammed into the filthy, overcrowded three-bedroom home in Auckland for months on end, sharing a single shower and cooking over one stove.

    “Three days, we don’t have nothing to eat, only just drinking water. No food, nothing. No food, sir, we are only drinking water,” said Indian migrant Prasad Babu.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/08/major-criminal-investigation-after-dozens-of-migrants-discovered-living-in-squalid-auckland-home.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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    • Braybots why would you quote the old shub as if what they spout is fact.

      These are indians
      they are lying

      What stops men from getting some food?
      They will exaggerate then the media critters will exaggerate more.
      They lied to get into NZ so are in part culpable
      They paid – or family – paid off immigration consultants to get in here so ‘they know’

      then, ah poor me wa wa wa

      This is where kea’s 86,000 immigrants are lurking.
      but kea cant do maths so don’t bother explaining to him/her/they
      They bunk right up.
      This was going on 5 decades ago in England.

      one case in the midlands – There were many injuns living in one council house.
      in the 1980s there there over 60+ males in house where they went into the ceiling space -roof cavity of terraced houses.
      They got busted coz they built beds over other peoples houses and the council was alerted from the noise.
      They slept in shifts and worked at factories and indian restaurants.

      They eventually dial a bride and bring a missus/punching bag over from grubby old india/pakistan/bengal
      ..all sorted.

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