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Third time lucky!
A comment from Kiwi Blog.
Tomtoddy
A farmer, in his fifties, known to me, committed suicide last week. It is not an isolated incident, sadly. He found the pressure too much. He just couldn’t cope any more with everything crowding in on him from all directions.
With farm prices down he was facing a financial loss. The processors of his products are spending megabucks on reducing emissions. Lower payouts. His end customers around the world have less to buy his goods because they are being taxed and forced to spend more reducing their emissions. Their governments are facing inflation, increased regulations, pressure from green groups, money grubbing scientists faking data and entitled kids who march against something they know nothing about.
At home, a wet autumn and winter made day to day work difficult. There was a time when he felt he was a valued member of the community, contributing to his community and country. Now all he sees is criticism. “Farmers have ruined our rivers”, “dairy is spoiling the environment”, “farmers produce half our emissions and are doing nothing to reduce them”, “farmers need to change to regenerative farming”, “farmers must adapt or die”, and so it goes on.
Government regulations keep coming, council keeps making new rules, more taxes, new forms to fill out, meetings to attend to be told the change, fix, pay more, adapt, more time in the kitchen doing growing paper work, higher costs in rates, levies, fees. Threats of new taxes. Diesel price gone through the roof – doubled. Fertiliser up again – 45%. Farm inflation running high – 13% and rising. Interest cost up again. Bank wants debt reduced faster. Can’t find good labour any more.
Neighbouring farms going into trees – 50,000 hectares in 2021. District population falling. Threatening and expensive RMA changes, district plan changes with new rules, regional council regulations, drones sneaking around inspecting, biodiversity claims, controls on fertiliser use, SNA’s and new regulations on water, wintering stock, Iwi SASM claims with unknown implications. The appears to be no end to the pressure.
Regulators need to stop. At all levels. We are killing our best, most reliable golden egg laying goose by strangulation.
Being a townie I’m not up to date on the regulations being forced on farmers but yesterday I saw a link to the regs on “farm water plans’. Any one with 20ht or more will have to have a plan for the farm on how it handles water and it will be audited.
So another gravy train for consultants and more massive (and unnecessary) bills for farmers and growers. Then the lefties moan about the cost of living crisis and food in particular. The inmates are running the acylium !!!!
Bloody computers …obviously it was meant to be asylum not acylium
It’s that bloody robot Ross!!!!!
A1?
On 1 January 2020 there were three big overseas funds earners in ao tear zooland.
1. Farming exports -both Hort and ag plus silviculture; 2. tourism; 3. oversea students.
Each has their upside and their downside.
Convid killed off two of these.
The climmy bullshit is being used to kill off the third.
There should be a fourth overseas funds earner – mineral extraction – but that either has never got off the ground – out of the ground – or has been killed with the climmy change battering ram.
This is not accidental.
It is malicious damage.
NZ has too many sheeple that swallow bullshit.
With glee.
Whether It is rogernomics, convid, or climate or ‘the latest thing’
They love to follow.
I am appalled at how many apparently intelligent people swallow the climate crap and regurgitate it on demand.
NZ has always had a fragile economy with a mini boom in the 1950s for the demand for wool created by yet another american war- the Korean war. A couple of years of goods times. That is about all.
NZ ambled along selling food to england for 100 years. Then england untethered as they wanted to play with the Europeans instead of doing war with them.
NZ standard of living declined. Then along came rogering douglas with unproven economic theory from the Frankfurt school and wiped out massive number of jobs.
300,000 jobs. In a country of 3 million.
It was early 2000s when NZ recorded positive economic growth and that was from dairy exports after a 15 year painful realignment.
Now that is under attack.
NZs worst enemy is usually its own government.
In the 1990s the bolger gnats unleashed the RMA and a form of economic and social sabotage by allowing leaky homes to be built. By 2013 this alone had the same impact on people and property as the CHC earthquakes circa 2010.
Without the recognition.’
Saboteur johnny keys came up with a stupid 25/25/50 plan for leaky homes – a problem created by notional – that had no real uptake.
keys economic miracle from the great jewish banker was to import people. From the third world. Esp Uber drivers; gas station attendants and liquor store clerks from India.
they were innovative…. a little bit. You could get a driver’s licence for $400 without ever having a clue how to drive.
all sanctioned and ignored like the UK ignored Rotherham.
This raised total economic GDP while lowering GDP per capita.
Key did fuck all good.
Concurrently he rushed through with no real plan the merger of the Auckland councils with a multi year stalling of house building as there was no unitary plan.
No new houses for the immigrants to live.
It was 6 years before there was a plan
https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/plans-projects-policies-reports-bylaws/our-plans-strategies/unitary-plan/history-unitary-plan/Pages/history-auckland-unitary-plan.aspx
Key was gone by then.
They have after 13 years only just coordinated rubbish collection. So rushed and fucked up was the merger.
That was economic sabotage by the WEF globalist cunt/Rep J. keys.
Rodney hide of ACT – lied through his teeth as well. Long story.
NZers cling to doom like shit to a blanket.
They wallowed in convid misery and fear porn.
It took them two years to wake up to the con. Most are still not awake but the lockdowns and lockouts were starting to wear through .
They love the climate shit – If NZ sank into the sea today it would make negligible difference to ‘the weather’ in the world.
But they are good sheeple and think they make a difference by having to purchase non-plastic bags to put their carrots into.
You are surrounded by sheeple who are content to eek out a living so long as they can get their big screen teevee from the Warehouse ; or Noel Leeming (Warehouse owns NL; so same thing)
They will read a biased article in the sunday papers and sigh in disconnected sadness at the suicide of a farmer .
Then later go to the supermarket ( a place that screws farmers) and uses their recycle bags to put their carrots into and feel they are saving the planet coz the media told them so.
You are not going to educate this lot. Not with real knowledge.
But there isn’t anything worth watching on the big TV Howitis!
After deep sixxing the over-woke crap known as netflix I joined amazon Prime a few months ago.
A few series like Bosch and Goliath to catch up on.
I use a 5 metre HDMI cable from my laptop to the teevee monitor.
The google chrome went all shitty a few years ago and does not work like how it did in 2015.
Severely degraded by the big tech mob. Netflix played silly buggers with connecting to competitor Chrome. $30 for a 5 metre cable. Back to 2010 tech solution.
The sound comes from the teevee unit. A 40 inch one I think. Pretty old now. Works.
But as far as any broadcast teevee is concerned I cut the cable in 2018 after the Comm games.
It was hopeless by then. Can watch youtube, adysee and other vids by same method.
No sadly you are never going to educate the masses. All they care about is” I am alright Jack and as for the rest I really don’t care.” As long as they can buy take outs each evening and don’t need to access the health system apart from the Emergency department and who cares what is going on in schools most don’t even bother going so WTF. New Zealanders have an attitude of not caring about their fellow man at all.
Sums things up well.
Same for growers. More and more and more rules and regulations for nothing except control and in the end corporates takeover.
Been fighting it for years but watch people cave in thinking they are doing the right thing.
NN and Seeless are part of the movement.
But luxon and the nats are the party for farmers//
SB
Not in my experience!
Lefty mongrels!
The only use I can see for luxon is as fertiliser.
He is full of shit.
…and little else.
A goldmine of fertiliser.
luxon would have to look up a thesaurus to see what as farmer is!
Don’t fell guilty about hating this prick.
Even the MPs in his own party are out of tune with this globalist prick who was parachuted in .
He/she is another Justine Trudeau..without the hair.
HOWITIS, You are right , I have zero confidence He or any of the elite God Botherers in his group will change the destructive direction our Country is heading in.
SB, is this the same farmers friend, the salt of the earth, Luxo who has embraced
Climate Change so much that his stated, most admired MP is Jimmy Two Mums. Nats and Luxo, definitely the Leader & Party of the Farmers and their wives. He and the Nats will look after them, Nothing surer. Hallelujah and pass the Bible.
Luxon proving he’s only human. Yet another vote for us, wait till Mrs.Mugabe is running farms. Our plan is to make Zimbabwe look like paradise without the carbon or the fun.
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/08/general_debate_18_august_2023.html#comment-3420747
The comments on kiwiblog are often more enlightening than the articles. Except they have swallowed the pro Ukraine anti Russian propaganda like the pro Covid propaganda. Hopefully the commentators wake up like they did with the covid response. Thanks for posting that Webwrat.
Cheers
Winter 2015 was a tough one down here as it was almost as wet as now and very low payout making it very challenging for farmers
Id just moved to a new district and through winter and calving there was a farmer suicide every few weeks, was 3 in total within 20min drive of our farm and another couple around the wider area.
The dispair mustve been terrible to get to that point, its just money at the end of the day but thing is with farmers when they go to the wall they dont just lose “a farm” they lose their career, home, lifes work etc all in one hit.
The current weather conditions and market conditions arent ideal and challenging enough but most farmers can get through that, its all the bullshit regulations and massive cost thats strangling the industry and the final nail in the coffin for farmers on the edge.
I made a conscious decision part way though a BAg at Massey, not to take over the family farm. I was the only one with any interest in it. Over the years I’ve often wondered whether I made the right decision as I’ve always missed the land. In recent years though, I’m not regretting my decision.
Their whole life is in the farm. The average person doesn’t seem to realise. We are all going to suffer from destroying farming. Tough times ahead.
Why do we need farms?
With the supermarket just up the road!
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Here we see the Party media telling us dissidents are hijacking the election. If the Party loses they will run a campaign saying democracy is broken and we need reform to allow far left extremists power. While keeping out opposition as that’s “ hijacking”
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/08/election-2023-fringe-groups-threaten-to-hijack-election-campaign-as-minor-parties-open-up-divisive-debates.html
It’s called DEMOCRACY fuckwits. Hope Labour gets seriously rattled by this bunch. As far as Sue Grey goes, I disagree with much of her policies, but she is one of the few ethical lawyers/politicians out there. Labour can’t stand the fact that Polynesians and some Maori won’t be told what to do…. (She warned the Parliament Protestors the day before the Stasi Mob moved in that something big and bad was going to happen the next day, and that people should consider leaving especially if they were elderly or had children. Where she got her intel from I don’t know, but she was spot on).
I lost interest at Jenna Lynch..
She told me she’d do you, wouldn’t even have to pay. (Might be a different Jenna though). Can’t link to the one I am thinking of as I don’t want to be banned….
Yep yep that is how is is, to quote our dear leader the nasty mean assed bitch.
MSM are filth.
Always have been.
always will be.
Some things never change.
Don’t expect these scum to do so.
1923, 2023. 2123 and all points in between.
ceteris paribus.
Give him a taste of Posie- Parker. I see he gets police protection though.
If this jumped up little Ginga Prick needs protection from te Pig, then he has asked for it through his actions, the actions of the Labour Party and his and their lying, dishonesty and manipulation of the people and the country over the last 6 years.
The people have had enough and even te Pig can’t save the Ginga Liar and his fellow travelers now.
Personally, I hope this election gets very noisy, their walkabouts where they seek the adoration of the swooning public, gets very messy and that they get the message delivered to them, that they don’t want to hear, like never before. Justice is best done at a Political meeting and walkabout where it is served up by a disgruntled mouth.
If the bitch and her labor party friends, hadn’t stuffed NZ and locked all the people down and pissed us all off, naybe we would still be like it was in the old days!
But no they went all nasty. Sures them right!
Yep Sooty, blame the right all Labour likes, but they obviously don’t understand Bert Einstein’s Law of Relativity. Push to hard one way and it comes back the other to clock you in the non thinking head, just at the point where they don’t like it.
Here, on the 14th October, endeth Labour’s lesson.
If theyre going to ignore the issue then take the issues to them!
This is the culture wars after all so why not get a bit rowdy a d force these scum politicians to take not. Being loud, public nuisance, bullying is how the noisy minority of mentally ill gender freaks got their way, now theyre shitty their tactic is being used against them.
Hope these folk start interupting luxtard on the issue as well, bit of heckling will do him well and may get a message through his thick bald head. Luxtard will only change his tune if negative stuff starts threatening the vote.
Pompous politicians won’t take notice of any heckling protesters. What could “the river of filth” possibly know that is worth listening to. ////////
Cheer up
An elderly Florida lady did her shopping and upon returning to her car, found four males in the act of leaving with her vehicle. She dropped her shopping bags and drew her handgun, proceeding to scream at the top of her lungs,
“I have a gun, and I know how to use it! Get out of the car – NOW!”
The four men didn’t wait for a second threat. They got out and ran like mad. The lady, somewhat shaken, then proceeded to load her shopping bags into the back of the car and got into the driver’s seat. She was so shaken that she could not get her key into the ignition. She tried and tried, and then she realized why. It was for the same reason she had wondered why there was a football, a Frisbee, and two 12-packs of beer in the front seat.
A few minutes later, she found her own car parked four or five spaces farther down. She loaded her bags into her own car and drove to the police station to report her mistake. The Sergeant to whom she told the story couldn’t stop laughing! He pointed to the other end of the counter, where four pale men were reporting a carjacking by a mad, elderly woman described as white, less than five feet tall, glasses, curly white hair, and carrying a large handgun.
No charges were filed.
Moral of the story? If you’re having a senior moment…make it memorable
I’ve just tested positive for COVID. Symptoms began on Friday. I’ll isolate until next Wednesday.
This is no worse than a cold. I’ve had worse flu bouts than this. Certainly not worth destroying economies over.
Let your immune system do its job, rather than overriding it with mRNA treatments.
Why on earth are you going to isolate until next Wednesday? You’re an intelligent man O-Sen. What’s got into you to make you withdraw from society over a cold? And how do you think that will help other people to develop their immune systems?
NAC plus what WG suggests should see you healthy again way before the average person. NAC was pulled during Covid and reclassified as a drug for a while. Very disingenuous of the FDA. Yes, it’s used by hospitals all over the world for protecting the liver from toxicity during a drug overdose, but it has also been used as a supplement especially by the longevity community. It’s value for Covid treatment – it protects the lungs and clears lung mucus.
I’ve just tested positive for
COVID.the flu.Surprised you even bothered testing, Os. I wouldn’t bother. You got a cold, you got a cold. I don’t need to know its name. But yes, hope you’re feeling better soon. Remember these things always affect the Y chromosome to a much greater extent than the X, so don’t take any shit.
Stay away from that KY jelly as well as it will give you a sore arse!
Huh ☝️
Ya sifter Sooty 😂
Why did you even both to take a test O-sen? Get well soon.
My wife wanted to know if I had COVID or not. She was concerned that we could have two different bugs. Now we know that we only have one to deal with.
This is no worse than a cold. I should start to recover in a day or so.
I could ask my daughter (a vet) to bring me some (for deworming, of course).
Why the governments of the world all locked onto the mRNA treatment path when alternative treatments were available is quite damning.
I trust voters will remember when they come to vote.
Vit D and zinc, paracetamol. Lots of lemons about. Kill off the bug with a hot lemon and honey drink with a shot of whisky. At least you won’t care for a bit you’re sick. 🙂
Feel well soon O-sen.
No, no. A tumbler of whisky, with a couple of drops of honey and lemon for flavoring! Follow up with another as required!
That is more like it Sooty, a full glass with only enough room for a few drops of honey and lemon.
Yep, yep. That’s what it is!
…….”rather than overriding it with mRNA treatments.”…….
Substitute “overriding” with “killing” & I’d go along with you.
I always start my day with a look through the Breitbart headlines and read the odd comments etc on any stories of interest. I find this gives me a bit of knowledge on various things that are happening around the world and gives me confirmation most days that America is stuffed and its demise is now only a matter of time, its corruption is now obviously apparent in just about all areas.
I do like the comments though, very righty and usually with a good healthy touch of humour.
How about this one – an an unidentified man jumped 750 feet from the roof of a Manhattan hotel late Thursday and was pronounced dead at the scene in Columbus Circle. “He hit the hotel’s glass awning on the way down, and his body split in half, sources said,” the article stated. “A cop at the scene said that the man was wearing pajama bottoms, a print T-shirt and slippers,” the newspaper reported, adding one of the building’s workers said the marquee cut the man in half.
Some comments:
Breaking:
DNC says he’s qualified to receive two ballots.
The strange thing, his driver’s license had his height at 6-feet tall. The autopsy report had him listed at 3-feet and 3-feet.
Did he get a cut rate.
He worked at the roof top bar, but he wasn’t a bouncer.
Bet he doesn’t have the guts to try that again.
The cops said it was the worst case of cut in half they’d ever seen.
It’s a terrible story, no matter how you slice it.
The clean up crew said it was a real pane in the butt.
Official cause of death: Covid.
Most certainly… it was the new variant for sure!
Good news tho, they can probably get by with a shorter coffin
Half price.
it was a split decision.
Rest in pieces.
He had to split!
He misunderstood the gravity of the situation.
a clear cut case
He’s half the man he used to be.
A man jumped 750 feet to his death from the roof of a five-star Manhattan hotel on Thursday night, according to police. The man was cut in half…
The unidentified man was pronounced dead at the scene.< <<< Really?
S
Ah, there are 2 sides to this story.Sounds like he had a split personality to me
When will they indict Trump for murder in this case?
No more golf for him, that was his last slice.
He should’ve gotten a second opinion on jumping….if he was still alive, he could now.
So, now I am ready to start the day.
That is funny HP.
There is nothing funny about suicide. Nothing.
Thanks to the assholes for the downticks.
If you have kids, and they are all still alive
that is wonderful. I have kids and one is gone
because of suicide. So fuck you, cowards.
Then there was the Humboldt Current, going up the western side of South America, Mexico, California. that also flexed and changed.
I recall that at some stages the fishing & the marine life density was amazingly unreal.
They have gone though stages of major fishing to major collapse & so the cycle continues.
It made New Zealand seas seem like an ocean desert.
Has it been taken over by computer modelling to be worked in for another agenda.
https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/environment/961878/cold-tongue-pacific-ocean-cool-patch-climate-change
The conjecture, modelling, will be another alarmism for Climate Change, as at the moment they are prepping the people to how much more dangerous it will be.
“Other hypotheses suggest that the answer may be found in the cold seas of the Southern Ocean around Antarctica, which have also seen sea surface temperatures decline in recent decades.”
So it is close to boiling then, but not quite? Tony Guterres, the Commo from the UN may have to redo his figures then?
Q. How do you keep a civil servant busy for two days?
A. Give them a piece of paper that has “please turn over” written on both sides.
I could ask my daughter (a vet) to bring me some (for deworming, of course).
Why the governments of the world all locked onto the mRNA treatment path when alternative treatments were available is quite damning.
I trust voters will remember when they come to vote.
I find it interesting that a lot of domesticated animals have to be dewormed – but apparently humans don’t.
That’s interesting, a lot of the people in this country are just plain animals. My evidence.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjh7IeV4-mAAxXZVWwGHe69BJ4QFnoECBsQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nzherald.co.nz%2Fnz%2F61-little-names-on-new-zealands-roll-of-dishonour%2F3GY3HSKEESCRAGD7VU4YEIL5I4%2F&usg=AOvVaw3uwWSzahnz-bgiF43TlFnC&opi=89978449
Animals live amongst us,
And live by another code;- aided & abetted by many.
Lest We Forget,
Animals don’t bash, kick or beat
their young to death. So it is not animals
that live amongst us, but sub-human
sacks of garbage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=456f73QchKs
‘We’ve all been watching the longest-running show of modern times. But it might soon be all over’
Neil Oliver:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y_oltDRcJw
Jesse Watters Primetime
Hipkins History.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/chris-hipkins-from-hutt-valley-boy-to-quiet-coup-for-pm-audrey-young-reports/ET4JZSI5PVCKBDDHRCLYVQ3CHI/
Thank God it’s paywalled, no point in reading an article by a so called journalist who doesn’t know the difference between history and a hagiography anyway. I look forward to the day the likes of Audrey Young and her ilk are put out to pasture by her employer due to them going down the drain.
National’s list has a few strange positions. Michael Woodhouse did the right thing, in my view.
I note Tim Van de Molen –Waikato (58 on the list) , Simon O’Connor – Tamaki (54) , Scott Simpson –Coromandel (55) , Sam Uffindell Taranga (57). Are these so low because they are relatively safe National seats or are these guys on the opposite side of the National caucus to NN, Willis and co. (ie. they are more conservative).
In a way I hope NN has pissed many MPs off and there is a revolt after the election –probably have to wait about 12 months when it is clear NN will not change much.
Also interesting to see the guy in the Northland electorate running against Jones and Matt King –Grant McCallum is at 68. Doesn’t NN rate his chances up there ?
Simon O’Connor, former trainee catholic priest , will pray to his god for guidance.
Hallelujah.
It is the will of the lord.
He has lots of god on his side.
He married Soimon Bridges’ sister, herself, like Soimon, the child of a Baptist preacher man,
May god be with you my child.
Green chick in canary yellow, and Ukraine war supporter, Brooke van velden, is challenging O’Connor in Tamaki .
Cant see it changing and BVV in on the ACT list anyhow.
On balance I’d prefer Brooke.
There’s material evidence to confirm that the Ukraine exists.
Looks better eh.
It could be a ploy to get an overhang. All those low rankers are in safe National seats. So they are in parliament. It’s the others higher up the list that are interesting.
Can someone correct my thinking here.If National increase their party vote and are entitled to more seats than electorates then the number of seats in Parliament is increased to accommodate the extras.????
I’m not sure you are right Ed. Nasska said yesterday the way an overhang eventuates is :
“Overhang isn’t a difficult concept S1. It can occur when a party wins more electorate seats than it’s party vote would normally allow it. For instance in 2008:
…..”The Māori Party, on the other hand, won five electorates but just 2.4% of the party vote – worth three seats on a pro rata basis. This resulted in an ‘overhang’ – the number of MPs was increased from 120 to 122 to accommodate the two extra electorate winners.”…….”
I think National will go back to getting plenty of electorate seats and so if they were stategic in their thinking (which they are obviously no capable of) they would encourage their supporters in their very safe seats to party vote for ACT or any other party that will side with them.
As I have argued before, if the party vote totals are similar between Labour and National (polling suggests this will happen) but National wins the majority of electorate seats (or far more than Labour) then Labour will end up with many more List MPs compared to National. So a significant number of the party votes for National are wasted.
Edit. Sorry nasska you beat me to it with your explanation without me seeing it.
Thanks Ross12:—
& nasska,
…. encourage their supporters in their very safe seats to party vote for ACT or any other party that will side with them …
In the polling booth, I will finally & maybe pragmatically decide.
That is what I am trying to figure in on the overhang. 🙂
Plus weighing up if it is truly worth while casting a vote for an electorate candidate for ACT.
So as to make ACT feel that there is something in not taking the ACT Party vote for granted, in noting that it does not tally up with ACT Party Vote and the ACT electorate candidates vote, & based on the policy differences.
This is the one time, when politics lets some have a little bit of possible influence.
Again another weighed up decision to be finally made in the voting booth.
Oh to have FPP back again.
No Mike. What we need is SMP as they use in Japan and I think South Korea.
It is a simple change. When the electorate MPs are finalised, the party vote is added up and only used for the List MPs –that is, it only applies for the 60 List seats and how many electorate seats a party have gained, has no relevance.
A simple, hypothetical example : Party A gets 40 electorate seats and party B gets 20. The party vote is split 30% to minor parties, 35% to party A and 35% to party B
Under SMP party A gets 40 + 21 = 61 seats . Party B gets 20+ 21= 41 seats. Minor parties get 18 seats.
Under MMP party A gets 42 seats ( 2 list seats) , party B gets 20 + 22 = 42 seats and the minor parties get 36 seats
It’s tempting but no thanks. FPP got the bums rush because National & Labour had totally ignored minorities & their promises were worse than valueless. They did exactly what they wanted & were answerable to no-one. Where we went wrong was picking MMP, a system developed for post war Germany to keep it fractured & weak.
What we needed & still need is STV. Works in Australia & has been adopted by some NZ local bodies.
https://www.stv.govt.nz/index.shtml
I would dearly love our Party votes to be on the single transferable vote system.
That way one can vote for Democrats and have another party as #2, if the Democrats dip out.
Stv has turned aussie red so not a shining example. I think party vote should just be about the 50 or so seats that aren’t electorate ones.
STV last year gave liebor the governance in AU
Liebor received 32% of the first preference.
less than a third.
I had thought it was better than that; but there we are.
No. The seats in parliament are dictated by the party vote. As there are 120 seats every portion of 0.83% of the party vote equals one seat. The seats are taken up first by the party’s electorate MP & then by their list.
The overhang only occurs when a party secures more electorate seats than its party vote provides. In the instance after the 2008 election I quoted yesterday:
…..”The Māori Party, on the other hand, won five electorates but just 2.4% of the party vote – worth three seats on a pro rata basis. This resulted in an ‘overhang’ – the number of MPs was increased from 120 to 122 to accommodate the two extra electorate winners.”…….
https://teara.govt.nz/en/electoral-systems/print
Nasska, that is why, here in the darkest King Country, the Hub of the Known Universe and on the very outskirts and far flung anal pieces of the Rangitikei Electorate, the National Party Billboards are pushing the Party Vote. This just to push up numbers, lower the ACT vote and give them a greater say in any National / ACT Coalition.
Well, I have been predicting protests before and after the election, especially from Mardee. But I wasn’t expecting it this early, and especially not in the Otara market, or with the PM targeted in what should be an area of primordial ooze of Labour support. Just shows no political party can take traditional support or protection in safe seat areas for granted.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132776440/the-political-divide-drowns-out-chris-hipkins-splits-families-in-tara
Talking of Nationals party list, I think Gerry Brownlee at No 14 is way too high,
Shout the bastards down so they leave.
Street level democracy at work,
We dont want your globohomo crap.
In it for yourselves.
Sod off.
Now is good.
It’s just a taste of whats to come. The resentment after the way they were treated in Wellington has not gone away. if anything, I would say it has increased in the past 18 months.
I agree. And if pollies curtail their walkabouts the resentment will grow exponentially as you say. It will remind protesters of the time Cindy didn’t come out of parliament to address the protesters. I have argued with countless fuckwits who say she shouldn’t have come out because it was too dangerous. I retort she had security, and only needed to stand in front of protesters, make some lame attempt to address the crowd; get shouted down, walk back inside knowing she had hit the ball back into the protesters court. History would have shown she made an attempt to talk to protesters and failed. History however now shows see failed to address NZ citizens in front of the building that represents the NZ people, the same people who employed Cindy to be their leader, a leader who had either forgotten or had no time for subjects who disagreed with her decisions. Decisions that ruined lives.
Ronnie, the protestors at Otara yesterday were well organised .
“Very few of the Freedoms NZ protesters wanted to talk after Hipkins left on Saturday. Multiple people, men and women, would only give their name as “Bob”.
Excellent, fancy scouring the countryside for Protestors and finding them all with exactly the same name.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132776440/the-political-divide-drowns-out-chris-hipkins-splits-families-in-tara
Yes, they were well organised, and from what I could see well behaved . Of course I don’t think that will be the case when 3 Waters supporters meet whitey from Ruralville, Taranaki. Shit is going to go down.
HDPA provides some light Sunday morning reading for Chippy as he licks his wounds from his rapidly curtailed outing to the Otara market yesterday.
Heather du Plessis-Allan: Election 2023: Chris Hipkins’ GST policy on fruit and vegetables is rotten
OPINION
“Turns out Chris Hipkins isn’t the crack politician we thought he was.
His GST policy was a flop. It lasted two days before Labour tried to change the subject.
Hipkins announced the policy on Sunday, and by Monday night Labour had already told the media something else was coming. They sent out the news that they would be announcing a Paid Parental Leave policy on Tuesday, the day of the PM’s weekly media interviews.
You can’t blame Chippy for wanting to change the subject. His GST policy had just been given the most epic wall-to-wall trashing of a policy that we’ve seen in a long time. It was called “craven”, “desperate”, “cynical” and “tinkering over transformation”.
It was hard to find anyone prepared to say something nice about it. Not even the Labour-friendly unions wanted to go there. Virtually every single commentator hated on it in the media. The media hated on it. It was brutal.
Hipkins should’ve expected what he got. He’d had a taster only two weeks earlier when National’s Nicola Willis got a leak and broke the news herself that Labour was planning to take GST off fruit and veges. The reaction was bad enough then.
He probably should also have listened to his two top finance guys. Neither of them seemed to love the idea.
Grant Robertson famously trashed the policy in May before it became his party’s policy. He’s a team player so he’s backing it now like it’s always been a great idea but no one believes him.
David Parker can’t bring himself to publicly back it. He famously quit the Revenue job before the policy was released. Every time he’s asked about it he just says, “I support the Labour Party policy,” and then either keeps repeating himself too obviously or walks away.
It looks like a captain’s call from Hipkins that’s backfired badly.
It’s quite surprising how badly he got it wrong. There was high hope for Chippy from the Hutt. He was a normal, Cossie Club-going, sausage roll-eating bloke. He was a breath of fresh air after the furrowed-brow, earnestness of the Ardern years.
He seemed to understand what people really cared about. Not unemployment tax. Not the Clean Car Discount scheme. Not the RNZ-TVNZ merger. He put all those Ardern-era pet projects on the policy bonfire.
The polls climbed. People liked him. He was Labour’s biggest asset.
But actually Chippy’s made it more likely that Labour will lose the election. It’s not just his GST policy. It’s the bonfire itself.
To the middle voter, the bonfire seemed a good idea. But Labour shouldn’t have listened to the middle voter only. The middle voter has other options. National. New Zealand First. Act or the Greens on an especially wild day.
To the left voter, it was a selling out. Too much that really mattered was killed. Too many climate policies were nuked. Co-governance was de-prioritised. Labour become a half-hearted version of National. It sold its soul.
And none of that has been replaced in a meaningful way.
And so Labour’s fallen below the critical 30 per cent in three polls and you can tell Labour’s scared. They’re working too hard to convince commentators the polls are okay.
The GST policy could have been the thing, had it actually put some decent money in the hands of the real Labour heartland: working-class Kiwis. But it didn’t. It gave them maximum $5 a week. And then Labour took $1 a week out to pay for its increased petrol tax announced on Thursday.
Chippy’s instincts were right to kill the Ardern distractions. But he needed to replace them with something of value and he didn’t.
Instead, he wasted one of the trump cards Labour had left: a good tax policy. And instead, he gave us an insulting $5 a week.
You’d have to wonder if Labour’s regretting that smooth transition of power to Chippy from the Hutt.”
So labour are becoming more like national and national are becoming more like labour….
What a cracking read. That made my smooth flat white become smoother and go down sweetly. On election night I hope my popcorn and Champagne goes down just as well.
What people forget is that he was there the whole time sitting at the bitches, righthand assisting to all of her dumb polices!
So he should rightly get tarred with her dumb polices, that they both introduced on to New Zealanders!
She as soon as she could run away, taking the money!
Never forgetting to take all the baubles she could!
But she will never walk freely amongst us!
She requires each trip to be planned, disguised, security, etc!
Don’t blame us, blame her!!!
”But she will never walk freely amongst us!”
Ain’t that the truth, Sooty. She may try her luck in 20years time believing the heat will truly have died down. Unfortunately for her she is bound to meet someone who had to watch a loved one die through a glass window. I would assume natural justice would follow.
She’ll forever be looking over her shoulder.
Just look at Japan’s ex-PM Shinzo Abe.
His assassin used a homemade firearm.
Ban home made fire arms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwmRAw0Fvf4
Maui Police Chief Ordered Cops To Block Cars From Fleeing Fire Allege Eyewitness.
The Jimmy Dore Show
Maui Police Chief John Pelletier has been less than forthcoming about addressing concerns over the government response to the recent devastating wildfires.
Te Pāti Māori list: 20-year-old ranked at number four
https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/08/20/te-pati-maori-list-20-year-old-ranked-at-number-four/
Those at place number 30 must be overly optimistic, infact any after 2nd or 3rd on the list are surely only in it for the lols.
At 20 she’s still young enough to know everything.
//
I doubt that sheila has ever seen a fern bush in her life.
All adorned with a red Che Guevara head piece. No doubt has the same revolutionary Communist bent that uncle, Ernesto Guevara had, when he dealt to the decent people of Cuba.
Yes AH, I noted her ‘statement’ with the rebel beret and the backdrop bush behind her. Stupid and dangerous.
Can’t be worse than the tattooed idiot’s running the show. Looks like a professional bludger to me.
So wise at 20, bound to put all her life skills to work for the benefit of ‘her people’.
Yer! Who is winding her up?
Enegiser Bunny! Look out Chloe,
Woke twat alert. All NN’s woke dreams will come true when GBrownlee wears a Dame Edna style ‘frock’. ////////////. Equity = farcical and f’n ridiculous.
National Party aiming to improve gender diversity in its line-up before election
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/08/national-party-aiming-to-improve-gender-diversity-in-its-line-up-before-election.html
The National Party has sought to improve the diversity of its line-up for this year’s election – but that could be stymied if the party wins a lot of electorate seats.
Party leader Christopher Luxon said he wanted more female representation in his caucus after the party’s 2020 drubbing saw women make up just a third of its MPs.
“Always there’s more to do and certainly in the list, we actually consider a range of factors, which is the conversation we had this morning about skills, abilities, experiences, of how we actually bring new talent into the team and augment the team that we’ve got,” Luxon said.
Yeah we have had such GREAT success with women PMs///
The first one is fighting off a $6 million charge for being a director while trading insolvently; tried to sneak off the board at the 11th hour, and has fought a judgement against her for years.
The second one is at least a misandrist if not a misanthrope.
The third one is a hard self socialist wrecker.
Oh yay.
Luxons greatest achievement at air nz was the rainbow tick so im sure the next 3 years he will transform national party into a bunch of raging homos and gender retards… probs why he dosent want to enter into the changing room/toilet debate
And he signed of the God-awful safety videos AirNZ ran.
Fuck him. He’s a sap.
He must have been competing against that queer Qantas!
Carbon tax and how it wroks for consumers.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/859258542572473
Another one of many reasons that is deeply embedded in New Zealand.
That is the price of milk, cheese will be only lowered as a very %, as the milk payout is lowered by a huge % to dairy farmers.
But so handy to berate farmers as the whipping boy.
Even worse than the so called Supermarket duopoly.
Just like the fuel prices that have preloaded taxes, fees, levies. regulations, etc..
Electricity Prices despite all the claims of Sustainable energy, but never cheaper, also has to charge priorities of so many fees, taxes, levies, also.
edit to put in [low]
lowered as a very [low] %; as the milk payout is lowered by a huge % to dairy farmers.
MH, ?? finger pointing to Max B? or the Labour Party pushing it onto 9 years, 20 years ago about some neglect?
Some of it ended up in private shareholding which was spiked by Labour & Greens.
Nor did I know that Max Bradford? was into Sustainable windmills, solar panels?
& the Greens stopped more hydo-electric power stations.
The stopping of Huntly coal production, & then gas as also New Plymouth’s gas to electricity station, to be replaced by imported Indonesian Coal.
So if any emission tax, all to be extracted from the consumer in the name of “clean & green”
Bradford deregulated the electricity sector in 1997 promising cheaper electricity for all.
As usual, nothing has changed, and prices have skyrocketed to what they are today.
Just another lying conniving politician.
But But..Max Bradford said….
The Electoral Commission have referred Julian Batchelor’s booklet to the Police. It is good to see Julian has Steven Franks as his lawyer –some hitting power. The beltway are getting paranoid !!
Meanwhile Julian is getting other print run done –total will now be 550,000 printed.
https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/electoral-commission-refers-julians-booklet-to-the-police/
Gives me some heart that Stephen Franks has taken up that issue in protecting Julian Batchelor’s back against that seriously flawed & controlled Electoral Commission.
Stop Co-Governance
All to build into street marches in September in Auckland, Wellington & Christchurch
https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/september-street-marches/
More meetings to come in New Zealand
https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/2023-nz-stop-co-governance-tour/
A Drive through by Tractors in early October. 🙂 is also in the planning stages.
An abuser’s Court case with Posie Parker in attendance coming up too.
Our winter of Discontent, seems ready to be revealed. 🙂
Will it count? & will it really be revolutionary in knocking out the global collectivism agenda of the UN 17 SDG’s?
Given anyone on this blog could write the script MSM will use when covering these events, wouldn’t it be great to see if Avi Yemini could try his luck to get back into the country to cover the protests. Or if all the blogs got someone to report especially for them.
Avi is coming back in the next week or so to promote his book.
Maybe the tractors could deliver Posy Parker to parliament or court!
Easy way for the commission to pass the ball. don’t think they have yet managed to propsecute the evil bastards that do break the electoral Law.
Just don’t have the spine to tell the complainant to piss off, nothing to see here. Cause they are specials.
No such thing as bad publicity.
Yep, yep, that’s exactly what it is.
I’m not sure if this has been posted before. Another totalitarian, racist report from Wellington. Relocation plan, no redress to the Courts, limited compensation (none if you own a batch) and Maori and NGO’s will get more help !!!
https://twitter.com/HopeRising19/status/1692834212569575745
This is the Newsroom report on it.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/ministers-advised-to-use-emergency-powers-to-relocate-families-at-climate-risk
luxon won’t roll back a damn thing.
=enemy of the state.
= enemy of you n me
it is not just liebour
From R12’s second link:
…….”emergency powers to relocate families at climate risk”……
Or a slimy, underhand way to introduce 15 minute cities?
A part of my thinking too nasska.
Too many houses being “red stickered” by the State.
With these Farm Water Plans, that sails up close to looking at the House, the water supply, the sewerage system and just to what standards will be bought in at major compliance costs.
If not compliant, then reds stickered? also until compliant.
Same as Farm Emission Plans, then the farm is red-stickered so no company will process the stock, or even a truck company pick up.
Noting how the BNZ is looking to push on about farm compliance with farm emissions, backed by CEO Larry Fink of Blackrock saying, they will enforce the Environment, Social Governance ESG’s
‘Something is rotten in the state of Denmark’ — Hamlet;— and in the putrid Aotearoa-n state.
Just like SNA’s being placed on farmland, no compensation & can make a farm unworkable, even unsaleable;
Sites & Areas Significant for Maori SASM are now also now being classified, that seem to override one’s title to the land.
It’s the compulsion angle that twitches my antennae S1.
Unless you’re a dyed in wool headcase who actually believes in imminent anthropological global warming & the consequent sea rise there’s no particular hurry to do anything. Market forces as in the rise in premiums for home & contents insurance or the companies’ unwillingness to accept risk will over time make it impossible to sell housing in flood prone suburbs.
All central & local government has to do is get out of the way & stop stonewalling the development of alternative residential land through bullshit restrictions & pie in the sky building regulations.
Forcing people out of homes at gunpoint for their “safety” is a socialist’s wet dream just like resettling them in human anthills.
I want the names and photographs of these
so-called ‘experts’ who put together this communist
plan. They should be named and shamed.
Another group of un-elected Marxists taking away
more and more of New Zealander’s rights. These scum
were NOT voted into office. I want them in the streets
fleeing for their miserable lives.
Why should everyone have to pay for our totally incompetent traffic planers in local council!
I reckon the greenies in traffic planning are creaming them selves at the mere thought of congestion charges!
In New Plymouths case, labour is giving ou a shitload of dough to council to stuff the road network!
We have insufficient thru network and council is going to slow it down and call it road conjestion and charge you for it!
Looks like a free Council car wash there Sooty. 🙂
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132778329/act-promises-to-set-public-service-targets-and-kpis-for-government-chief-executives
✅✅
Needs to set some for his own duplicity.
You will be jabbed or you will not be allowed to work or get a pension or benefit.
What a piece of shit.
^butthurt loser
Intelligence +
They already have KPI’s. They are used to make failed political policies look like they are working and doing some good.
Seems we have a bigger than ever media slush fund.
Government payments to private media organizations need to stop.
In what other industries does the Government fully fund hundreds of jobs? All industries are as important.
What other parties are speaking out against this?
DemocracyNZ supports the cessation of such payments, like the $327m announced in 2022, for a ‘future focused public media entity’.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=205402139172227&set=a.112917335087375
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xEo9p2AHPWw
Joe Rogan says Mike Pence RUINED his own Career
Short
Blame JacinDUH Ardern. Communist, traitor, liar,
thief, pro-crime, state sanctioned killer ( full term abortions )
shill for a dangerous unsafe, untested ‘vaccine’ tyrant who
locked people up in their own homes. A sociopath who refused
NZer’s to return home to be with terminally ill loved ones….. the list is endless.
The horsefaced bitch has blood all over her wretched skeletal body.
ps. Did you write all of that down Hate Kannah?
That is NOT misinformation or disinformation.
That is what your coward ex- employer has done.
Labour hoardings are getting changed to “RUIn it for you”.
Love ya work! 😎
That slogan is utter crap. Usually when talking of being “in It” its usually a negative as “in the shit”. Twats;.
No #8967 of things that Labour can’t do.
Write a slogan.
I thought for a split second you were going to say Ruin it for you.
Really? Is that the best the vegan animal activist losers can come up with.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/300953339/federated-farmers-executive-defends-farmer-of-southland-sheep-caked-in-mud
The distressing and incriminating photos of dirty sheep.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/136647212@N08/sets/72177720310495179/with/53115981332/
Imo considering how much of a bog southland is this winter those sheep are doing pretty well.
These morons need to get a fucking life, i suggest they buy a farm themselves and rehome all these poor animals they think should be living in better conditions. Bet it would be the muddiest shithole with starving animals.
They look pretty healthy to me. Shit I got that muddy walking the dogs in the local park this morning.
A little girl complained to her father,
“Daddy, I wish I had a little sister!”
Trying to be funny, her father joked, “But honey, you already have a sister!”
Confused, the toddler asked, “I do?”
“Sure,” her dad said, pulling the kid’s chain. “You don’t see her because every time you come in the front door, she scoots out the back door!”
The confused toddler thought for a moment and then beamed,
“You mean just like my other daddy?”
National’s transport spokesperson has committed to not raising fuel taxes in a potential first term if his party wins the election, but says he wants to “rapidly” legislate to allow major centres to roll out congestion charges.
Speaking to Q+A, Simeon Brown also hinted at wanting to shake up central government’s system for transport funding, with a greater emphasis on user pays.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/08/20/congestion-tax-national-wants-to-rapidly-legislate-for-system/?fbclid=IwAR2-PU_XKFU1yB8aFPTWxGMdSxJn4ETiMJRNNWLlt-eB2WRSL1OOMBjk4FQ
That will go down here like a cup of cold sick.
although if they apply it to the down town area then that will finish off downtown where the shops are mostly empty and no one goes any more.
I would n’t want to be the pollie that tries to put it elsewhere. We have a looooong history of underfunded roads because we have had years of safe Nat seats, except, when Winston held the winning ticket. Both Clark and Bol;ger succumbed to his charm.
The price each time was a bridge.
So you can sell bridges.
If there is any electorate needing a new bridge just elect Winston as your MP. Works every time.
No really. Winston promised Northland10 new bridges when he became the local MP in 2017. Result: one bridge built, one under construction.
Winston won the by election in March 2015
When Sabin fucked up.
Peters was not in government. He could not promise anything.
Notional offered the bridges in the by -election
They had 2.5 years to do something.
did their usual SFA.
Gnats got back in next time anyway.
they were NOT going to try.
In the by-election they put up a grossly obese chappy who could pass as a liebour cabinet minister today
A politician’s promise is like the dairy owners promising YOUR lotto ticket is the winning one.
To be sure, to be sure.
would you like a leprechaun with that ?
Toll roads. Get private enterprise to build ’em (Hunty Corp) and bingo congestion free.
…and bingo congestion free.
Did not work out that way in Sydney.
pay your toll and you can still take 40 min to go 3 km in a tunnel
For every 500 km bought and paid for you get a free ladyboy for the night.
Can swing either way 🙂
All preferences catered for.
Even Kea.
Courtesy of Senor Hunty
K̄hxbkhuṇ
NZ First leader Winston Peters has promised to make English an official language as part of his platform to “deal to this racism”.
Speaking today at a public meeting in Auckland’s Pukekohe, Peters said it amazes him that English is not an official language of New Zealand while te reo Māori and NZ sign language are.
“Being that we are an English-speaking country, it is bizarre that we have to do this, but this is how far this extremism has taken our country,” Peters said.
English already enjoys de-facto official status, being spoken by 95.4% of the population, according to the 2018 national census. It has never been an official language.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/08/20/winston-peters-proposes-to-make-english-an-official-language/
Something I have been saying for ages.
But not AN official language THE official language.
Any bastard quoting the 2018 or 2023 census is simply taking the piss.
Cue the calls of racism and colonialist thinking that just further oppresses maori.
Hilarious that winnie knows how to read a room and the countries mood yet other parties are tone deaf.
Even tho winnies full of shit on most promises its just good to see a public figure with the balls to say what many are thinking.
Relect whinny just for shits and giggles ///////
It will be ALL shits and NO giggles.’
Rest assured.
Fuck off, Peters. He’s been a politician since 1975. He would have known English isn’t an official language. He’s a slimy dirty bottom feeder and those who vote for him need their heads read.
This weeks hipocracy.
Labour will require financial literacy to be taught at all levels in all schools by 2025, if re-elected to Government.
Leader Chris Hipkins and Education Minister Jan Tinetti made the announcement today in Hamilton.
It’s a policy aimed at addressing low levels of money and budgeting skills among school leavers, the party said.
Hipkins said it would mean young people would leave school knowing how to budget, open a bank account, manage bills and save and invest their money.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/08/20/labour-pledges-compulsory-financial-literacy-classes-in-schools/
“We want all young New Zealanders to leave school knowing how to manage their finances. It’s too important to be left to chance.
“Evidence tells us the current approach means too many students leave school without the financial skills they need.”
Will Robbo write the program. Is that his retirement fund.FFS
Oh but it doesn’t end there.
National also aiming to make financial literacy compulsory in schools
By Felix Desmarais, Political Reporter
48 mins ago
Labour’s policy announcement it would introduce financial literacy education appears to have forced National to announce it has the same policy.
However, National deputy leader Nicola Willis says the difference will be that National would deliver it better than Labour.
“We, if elected, will deliver financial literacy in schools. It’s a shame this wasn’t done earlier as part of the curriculum changes, but it is certainly something we’d like to see happen.
“It will happen. It is something that we are committed to delivering.”
She said the policy was something a lot of people had “been pressuring for, for a long time”.
Asked if that meant Labour’s announcement had prompted National to announce theirs, Willis said: “It’s certainly something that we were planning to say more about in this campaign”.
More on this topic
Start with financial literacy for the liebour arseholes, first.
practice what you preach.
Start with GST on fruit and vegetables.
Imagine teaching our children the financial skills and budgeting wisdom of the labour party!!!!!
Luxon the woke will probs insist the lessons are in te reo
Brilliant Monologue Neill Oliver GBNews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=456f73QchKs&ab_channel=GBNews
Robba was in Sydney for the girls finals and was commenting on the tv1 news!
Do you think he made himself look like a troughing cunt!
But then he’s on the list so looks don’t matter to him!
Go Spain
…and anyone who plays England !
With the noisy yanks gone.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/08/16/womens-world-cup-gay-players-lgbt/
‘This is the gayest World Cup ever (and no one’s batting an eyelid)’
after last year in Qatar and they were not allowed to mention it . ha ha
So sad for the Robba. Even the referee is female.
How to hold ones interest.
Off to Kings Cross afterwards, then ?
I was surprised that Scotland did not make the Women’s World Cup. Surely the Scots could have got the support of the McLiquor Clan.
Is your wife some fancy kind of liquor ?
So we murdered the elderly with vaccinations……
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/us-nursing-home-data-shows-clearly?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
“US nursing home data shows clearly that the COVID vaccines made things much worse
CMS publishes record-level nursing home data by week. When you analyze this data different ways, the conclusion is always the same: the vaccines were a disaster, increasing the death rate from COVID.”
They were murdered by isolation/loneliness and fear, your vax just tidied up a few stragglers.
Try reading some of the data.
Try not being a nutter moron.
Theres a shit ton of data disproving you nutters bullshit aswell… but the nutter stuff from randoms on the internet is the truth?
I dont believe anything from any side anymore, honestly its a waste of fucking time. Its not gunna change anything, its not going to “wake ppl up” (hint they dont care) and youre certainly not going to get acknowledgent or apology from those that you believe are culpable.
You retards waste alot of your life on dumb shit.
Theyve spend a few years saying covids super scary and safe and effective, weve spent a few years saying its just a flu and not safe not effective…. if you havent changed someones mind after that long then i think you should give up and find a new hobby
“Theres a shit ton of data disproving you nutters bullshit aswell… but the nutter stuff from randoms on the internet is the truth?”
OK let’s have a link to the data that proves that the excess deaths are mostly from isolation, loneliness and fear.
I didnt say the other data states that you mong, theres plenty of data to discredit nutters and support the govt and msm narrative.
Hell theres probably data that proves an alien parrot called jimbob caused the excess deaths… point is fucking nothing is believable, govt/media exaggerate their data, nutters exaggerate theirs and then random joe curious on the internet latches on and exaggerates it further.
Best just to view the whole thing as one big sick joke and move on, we all got had and some folk got conned worse then others.
It was your statement and you keep saying there is plenty of data but you can’t quote any.
Sincerely Mong
Show me where i said theres data to show they were murdered by loneliness and fear? Thats a random opinion like curtain sniffer and other nutters throw around.
Go google covid and vax stuff and visit govt and health ministry websites for the examples you seek. I wont waste my time as i know theyre as full of shit as the nutter covid links thatve been posted to the internet the last few years.
Ok so we can agree you are throwing around random opinion unsupported by data. You are sounding more and more like the bird, vax nutters, butt hurt, ark ark ark.
Lol and you nutters data is rock solid///
You can literally find data to support ANY view on any issue, its become meaningless so why bother using your nutter shit?
Said by someone who spends a fair bit of time on YSB spouting shit he knows fuck all about.
Im a stupid boy, i dont pretend to be something im not yet you lot seem to expect better 🙂
Besides ive moved on from covid butthurt and nutter shit and tackling new issues like waking up sheeple dnz cultists! Covid crap is so last year.
While it’s true that there’s little point in living in the past forgetting & forgiving invite more of the same or worse. Covid along with the poisonous vaccines weren’t accidents. Rather they were part of a trial run to see how masses react & how long it takes for them to get over atrocities.
‘Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.’
George Santayana
The effects of tyranny and the genocide jab are not so last year. They are very much with us.
Highly valued medical opinion from a farm labourer. HMMM.
Cant be any worse of an opinion then one from a derranged curtain cleaner or a religious teacher.
Not just the elderly rol. Plenty of younger people murdered too.
Part of the depopulation plan.
EVs and fires…. LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C_0uN52kJY&ab_channel=CDN
My missus said, “The Women’s World Cup is on, are you watching it or coming shopping with me. ”
Sent from my iphone in Harper’s Fashion Boutique
Found anything that looks good on you?
The sales chick was quite tidy. 🙂
School fundraisers are getting more colourful!
“A fundraiser in Kaimai last night left attendees feeling outraged and disgusted after one group dressed as members of the Ku Klux Klan attended as a part of a costume competition… . . . . .One even carried a petrol canister.”
Needless to say this caused a bit of a stir. It doesn’t mention whether they won the costume comp.
Orsum!
Love the commitment.
A petrol can !
I guess when they costumed up they did not do it half baked 🙂