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  1. Wouldn’t you like to take all those masks and jam them right up that PHD with honours ,two mums Shaws arse ? especially when you’re rifling around in the draw looking for a suitable plastic bag for some critical job around home, less than 5 weeks from election day and I still haven’t decided who to vote for ,that’s an indication of how bad our choices are.

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    • … I still haven’t decided who to vote for ,that’s an indication of how bad our choices are. ….

      Watch out rol, all the officious hall monitors, and authoritative Party Whips will come out to tell you which way to vote, like a hustling salesman of a “karen” —- like or be jabbed for “granny’s sake”
      “It is the most Critical election for New Zealand” as if we did not know or care either about “Granny” & now the “grand-kids”.

      So often sounding like you have a “Choice” and it is only one “Choice” to how to get the government out. …. yeah right …. as if we also do not care.

      Yet I will be weighing up, considering, whether right or wrong what I will vote for.
      It is so funny as the Party Whips think it is contagious that if one was not jabbed up the wazzzoo, which was doing nothing, but avoiding all that pressure, and often times saying “NO Thanks”.
      A fair bit of research, & weighing up was done in coming to that decision.

      “It ain’t over t’il t the Fat Lady sings” when we weigh up the entrails of the the dead rats, in our research.
      Hobson’s Choice, was far better than Hipkins Choice.

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  2. Good morning, what has happened to informed consent??? Nope just follow along, is the way of today. Lots of sheep in this country. I had a call from Roy Morgan last night I am sure the lady did not want what she got. I was super polite but gave her one big FUCK you to the government. I am not 100% sure who to vote for either revy, but certainly will not be voting for any of the candidates stand ing in this electorate. The national candidate has a wife with a scribble face, liarbor could never vote for them, act no longer a supporter, Winnie the liar nope, that doesn’t leave anyone other than DNZ for the party vote, but????
    Have a great day out there today and be careful.

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  3. A federal appeals court in New Orleans ruled on Friday that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) had overstepped its authority in their ruling that three doctors will be able to move forward with their lawsuit over the use of ivermectin off-label to treat COVID-19.

    Dr. Mary Talley Bowden, one of three doctors who initially filed the petition, trumpeted the ruling as a victory for not only the truth, but patient rights.

    “The FDA misled the public into thinking it has more authority than it does,” Dr. Bowden, a practitioner and founder of Coalition of Health Freedom, told The Epoch Times. “This decision confirms that the FDA is not your doctor and has no authority to tell doctors how to practice medicine.”

    Judge Don Willett wrote for the three person panel that also included Jennifer Walker Elrod and Edith Brown Clement. “The Doctors have plausibly alleged that FDA’s Posts fell on the wrong side of the line between telling about and telling to.”

    “FDA is not a physician. It has authority to inform, announce, and apprise—but not to endorse, denounce, or advise. The Doctors have plausibly alleged that FDA’s Posts fell on the wrong side of the line between telling about and telling to. As such, the Doctors can use the APA to assert their ultra vires claims against the Agencies and the Officials.”

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/fda-is-not-a-physician-appeals-court-sides-with-doctors-on-ivermectin-for-covid-19-post-5485494?utm_source=top5noe&src_src=top5noe&utm_campaign=top5-2023-09-10&src_cmp=top5-2023-09-10&utm_medium=email&est=Wcevr4A3fshX3xtWUMrTnuUHkG9ZzPEm1tty%2B5g67wDbftoZQNXifkGr6f7zFEc%3D

    In the ruling social media posts made by the agency were cited as evidence, citing that “Even tweet-sized doses of personalized medical advice are beyond FDA’s statutory authority,” he wrote.

    The FDA on Aug. 21, 2021, wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter: “You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y’all. Stop it.”

    Of course our system is not that different so all those that used their supposed authority to overrule our system have made themselves vulnerable to cuplable homicide
    Think about that.
    People are still dying from their overruling Doctors.

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  4. The combined trade union economist who used to work for robbo is putting a big target on his union, when the govt changes . He must be brain dead not realizing his whole union is now at risk of regulation change .

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    • I used to party vote ACT, but not any more. David Seymour is becoming arrogant, dictating his coalition terms, and trying to call the shots. “I won’t work with Winston”, and “What we’re saying is – ‘we give you confidence’, but when it comes to supply we want to negotiate each time.”, and “…we want to see Chris Luxon in the National Party in government with us.”, not “We want to be in government with National”.

      Dictating coalition terms and calling the shots before the public have played their cards is arrogant.

      Plus he is a vaccine injury denier.

      Meanwhile, Winston Peters lays down the gauntlet:
      Māori are ‘not indigenous’, Winston Peters claims.
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/132910835/mori-are-not-indigenous-winston-peters-claims

      Peter Williams interviews New Zealand First leader Winston Peters
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1cPGsHZ8R0

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      • “Dictating coalition terms and calling the shots before the the public have played their cards is arrogant.”
        No it’s not it’s called honesty. Stand for what you believe and negotiate from that position is called integrity. Changing all your bottom lines for a seat at the table after an election is the shit that MMP allows. A new election should be called whenever a party veers from it’s election committments to the electorate during a power negotiation post election.

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        • I understand Winston ruling out EVER working with Labour again, as Labour created this mess, but Seymour does not know where the cards will fall on election night. How would his arrogance work if NZ First get more seats than ACT? Or National wants a coalition with ACT and NZF? Does he have a big enough face cloth to wipe off the egg?

          It is his job to do what is best for the country.

          Seymour is not honest. Right now he is tone deaf on vaccine injuries and deaths, and is not listening to the public. He is a vaccine injury denier. He does not represent the public.

          A new election should be called whenever a party veers from it’s election committments to the electorate during a power negotiation.

          I agree, but under MMP, list MPs answer to the party not the electorate.

          You say “whenever a party veers from its election commitments…”
          [1] I’ve never seen any party make rock solid commitments with specifics. Just vague promises. Budgets blow out, they engage in fake climate change, fake pandemics.

          [2] It should be the electorate MP that makes a detailed commitment to the electorate, and there should be no list MPs, and there is only one one commitment that counts: “To go back to the electorate to get support and direction with every policy/expenditure.” If the electorates vote for tax reduction or tax increase that is what it is. If the electorates vote that MPs must wear a clown suit to parliament every day they stick their foot in their mouth, then so be it.

          MPs represent their electorate, not the other way around.

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          • Oh the irony.
            “I understand Winston ruling out EVER working with Labour again, as Labour created this mess”
            It would not have happened if the drunken dwarf had not said “Capitalism is dead, and I choose Liarbour to form the next government”

            NEVER FORGET !!

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            • ED watch his interview as per the link above, before you are 100% certain.

              The country got fooled by Ardern. Winston got fooled by Ardern.

              English was not very accommodating in his post election negotiations and no doubt Ardern gave Winston political “come on” overtures. A Political teaser. Say one thing, do another. Skilled in the art of emotional and political manipulation.

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              • Peters is expert in rewriting his past decisions so he comes out of the compost smelling of roses.

                Peters is adept as said by Groucho Marx: These are my principles but if you don’t like those I have others.

                Never forget indeed!

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                • If you were in Germany Post WW2, would you vote for the party that denied the extermination of the Jews or the party that acknowledged it. Watch the interview!

                  Hipkins, Luxon, and Seymour have already re-written history and decisions for taking no responsibility for the ignoring of, and attacks on the protesters, and making vaccinations mandatory.

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                  • Admittedly I haven’t watched the interview but I have watched Peters for the last 40 years and every time he sounds very plausible, speaks the right words but his future actions cannot be trusted. WATCH WHAT HE DOES, NOT WHAT HE SAYS…

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                    • I’m like you WG, and would NEVER have voted Winston. I’ve been following RCR and interviews with candidates by various hosts, and listening to Cam Slater / Olivia Pearson / Marty Gibson on “A Politcal Agenda.”

                      Winston is the only one that keeps raising the vaccines etc.

                      We know that to save NZ, It will require politicians to change. Winston is the only one prepared to change. But he is not our saving grace. The public have to take back control, and hold pollies to account.

                      Watch the interview.

                      And sign up to an RCR membership. RCR is the ONLY media platform presenting unbiased news.

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                • wg:— So right on how Winston does another “up dated” edition.

                  …. “All the international evidence and best practice supports the pro-vaccine case,” one post on Peters’ personal Facebook page said in November 2021.

                  The country had been let down by the slow vaccine roll-out and “a minority who refuse to get vaccinated”, said another.
                  Low Māori vaccination rates were a “threat to the whole population”; “we must get fully vaccinated ASAP”; “vaccinate to the max”.

                  One post even advocated a controversial policy to require beneficiaries and prisoners to be vaccinated before receiving social support.
                  “No jab means no dole and no parole,” it said.

                  “I only said one thing, and that was a day when I wasn’t doing my Facebook. Someone else did it,” he said.

                  “It was a simple mistake that someone made, it was not my feeling. But I can tell you exactly what it was now.
                  And I regretted it, and I’m owning up to it.”

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132532167/can-winston-peters-ride-a-freedom-wave-to-parliament

                  But I noticed that it was more than just one day that some similar comment was made.

                  Nor will WP drop the waka jumping legislation, so some of those individual candidates will be fully controlled.
                  That is the basis of WP

                  A great speech writer, with a great delivery, but then goes way above his paygrade.
                  He never ever run any portfolio he was given with much ability.
                  I even doubt foreign minister as he signed NZ up to UN Global Migration Pact, whilst saying it is non-binding.. … yeah right …

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              • fooling an old fool. I have a bridge for sale that he made sure he screwed out of Bolger and then I have a second one he screwed out of Clark.
                That he got screwed by Jacinda seems to be retribution from Clark.

                Just another pig with black lipstick like the red and blue and Yellow.

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    • Yes, Winston may even get a greater percentage than David Seymour at election time, based on his trajectory.

      “Asked after the meeting by Stuff if he could see that that view might be upsetting to some, Peters referred to it as “the truth”.

      “Excuse me, I am from that background … we know we’re not indigenous, and we don’t believe in bulldust.”

      “And if defending bulldust should upset someone then I am sorry. But nobody in the Māori world who understands anything about that could make a statement out of that, apart from the ludicrously obtuse, [and] ignorant.”

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    • ‘Māori are not indigenous’

      Shame on NZ society for banning non-self-identifying-Maori from saying the obvious.

      Note: in modern English “indigenous” means “first non-white settlers.” The actual time on the land doesn’t really matter. In the case of Maori, they had a 500-year head start. They are therefore “indigenous.”

      In Japan, the Jomon and Yayoi peoples settled the main islands some 2,500 years ago, but the UN says that the Ainu (a race from Siberia) are the “indigenous” people. Next thing you know there will be Ainu speakers reading out the news in Ainu on Hokkaido TV and all the locals will be scratching their heads.

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      • Sorry Odakyu-sen, Maori are not indigenous. They were very late to the party. Being gate crashers, arriving late, eating, raping, and enslaving the original party invitees does not make one indigenous. All prior races were peaceful and co-existed. It is only the arrival of the cannibals that took things by force that upset that peace. Now the militant elite who are descendants of those cannibals, want to go back to using force.

        Recorded history of people living in NZ goes back 30,000+ years. White/Brown people living here goes back a couple of thousand years, and lots of other races in the last 10,000 years, including Chinese, Peruvians, Celts.

        And this is all recorded. And it is backed up in numerous books, written in the 1800’s from stated Maori/MoriOri/Waitaha/Ngapuhi oral history. Those books have been scanned and digitised and posted online on govt servers. Most researchers know where they are, as do I, however I will not post the links as it could result in those sites being shutdown.

        Oral histories go back 75 generations (1500 years) in the case of the Ngaphui, which speak of white people who were here before the Ngaphui arrived. Ngapuhi are probably from Cook Islands. Journeys from 500AD from Rarotonga to NZ is on the Rarotongan website.

        Other tribes had oral history going back 275 generations (4000-5500 years).

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      • Note: in modern English “indigenous” means “first non-white settlers.”

        Nope.

        Indigenous: “Of or relating to the earliest known inhabitants of a place and especially of a place that was colonized by a now-dominant group” – Merriam-Webster.

        Skin colour is NOT mentioned.

        You are probably confused because “indigenous” is often related to the word “native”. People think “native” means brown skinned running around in grass skirts.

        “Native” was actually derived from Latin.

        https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/indigenous

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    • If you ever go to Sarawak (Borneo) you will see guys who you would swear were Maori guys —especially the older ones. There are quite a few different tribal groups over there and they all are quite different in appearance. Did the ancestors come down through there on their way to the Pacific —I haven’t got a clue ?

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  5. The old saying ”there’s nothing new under the sun” certainly pertains to historical housing issues in NZ. State houses grew out of the need to house more NZers. But I never thought housing issues back in the 30s were nearly identical to what they are now, minus cramming people into motels.

    In this quaint unwoke clip we slip down a timeline to a period when there were still clipped English accents around… and Maori hardly rated a mention. It also highlighted the beginning of what we liked to think was an egalitarian society. Apparently even keeping up with the Jones’ was a thing. A big shout out to the narrator who correctly pronounced the name Waitangi ( why-tongue-ee). Even ‘The Hosk’ still mispronounces it.

    Many types of houses shown in this clip are still around. One was recently demolished in my area. Great hardwood exterior, but inside mainly wood slates and scrim.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a42UnqSKMyo

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  6. I’ve started a new political party.
    It will be a celebration of decent,
    honest New Zealander’s. Vote for
    Bon and the Birthday Party.

    ……..actually I’m the only one in
    my new party. Have a great
    day folks.

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            • Sorry, Leo can’t do that. You have to direct your question to the Green Leader, I am just a swinging voter, but will give you a guide. She bandies about the “C” word with gay abandon and throws herself in front of motor bikes at protest meetings and gets thrown into the Slammer in Israel. And no it’s not Janette Fitsimmons. She’s dead.

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              • I just realised something, that Klink woman you were talking about the other day who went on the state sponsored trip to Peru, the one who took her twin sister, turns out the sister lives up here. I never realised this because I didn’t know her surname and to put it mildly we don’t move in the same circles. That woman is possibly the most heavily tattooed hard drinking skank in Northland. She is absolute trash, most of her family are gang members, she claims to be a social worker and just goes from one bludge to another. God only knows what the poor people of Peru did to deserve a visit from this self entitled mole.

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  7. Will Enzed media, such as it is, be able to bring themselves to report on the US Open Tennis men’s final with a Russian (Medvedev) playing an ‘anti vaxxer’ ie. Novak Djokovic ?

    Oh Noes, can they give praise to any of these two?

    Oh, and well done Sean Strickland.
    and
    Will Ian Foster (All Slacks coach if you never heard of him; not to worry, if you have not, you wont want to )
    be 501’d to Niue of anywhere but here after his dismal failureSSS. ?

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  8. Our teacher asked what my favorite animal was, and I said, “Fried chicken.”
    She said I wasn’t funny, but she couldn’t have been right, because everyone else laughed. My parents told me to always tell the truth. I did. Fried chicken is my favorite animal. I told my dad what happened, and he said my teacher was probably a member of PETA. He said they love animals very much. I do, too. Especially chicken, pork and beef.
    Anyway, my teacher sent me to the principal’s office. I told him what happened, and he laughed, too. Then he told me not to do it again.
    The next day in class my teacher asked me what my favorite live animal was. I told her it was chicken. She asked me why, so I told her it was because you could make them into fried chicken.
    She sent me back to the principal’s office. He laughed, and told me not to do it again. I don’t understand. My parents taught me to be honest, but my teacher doesn’t like it when I am.
    Today, my teacher asked me to tell her what famous person I admired most. I told her, “Colonel Sanders.” Guess where I am now…
    hahahaaaaaa

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    • Yeah, read about the 75-year embargo on archaeological findings in the Waipoua Forest. Now why would you want to hide findings from a dig?
      And how do you get your hands on a copy of “Ancient Celtic New Zealand”?

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        • I have a copy. Great book. He has another book that shows a photo of a newspaper article for the 1800s regarding 8ft plus skeletons unearthed in Northland. In true Kiwi fashion the bones where ground up for bone fertiliser. Beggars belief.

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          • I don’t know whether this is the same “fertiliser” incident but it’s not hard to see how the Maori got twisted out of shape over the actions of some of the early European settlers:

            ……”St Alban’s Church (Anglican), Whakapirau was built in 1896 after a period of community fundraising that enabled it to be opened debt free. The site for the church was formerly part of a block of land made tapu by koiwi from the battle of Marohemo in 1825. The tapu was lifted from the land by the gathering of the koiwi into an ossuary. These bones were subsequently used to fertilise vineyards in the vicinity. “……..

            Whakapirau is on an inlet of the Kaipara Harbour opposite Pahi.

            https://www.heritage.org.nz/list-details/462/462

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            • Haven’t heard that story before. Terrible. These are the stories that the public never get to hear. Maori never forget such slights.

              But, no , this story was different. The book along with two others were lost by a relly. I don’t lend my books anymore. I think it may have been called ” The Way We Where?”
              A number of large tall skeletons had been unearth during a construction project if I remember correctly. The bones were given a cursory look then gathered for rendering into fertilizer. I don’t know if DNA could have been extracted( should the bones have been saved) But if so, a shit storm would have ensued for sure.

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              • Ronnie
                Is that book title exactly right?
                “Where”? or “were”?

                So long as things are spelt reasonably correct, and nor any other current slang points, it is sometimes possible to find leads in a google search.

                Though it is over whelmed with the song, as “Streisand effect” 🙂

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                  • Thanks Ronnie.
                    Seems to be a number of places to find it when googled.

                    From a review:–
                    Published 2014
                    Ian Wishart brings out the most fascinating forgotten tales of our past, told through the eyes of the people who were there.
                    Read about the tsunamis that washed away the homes and lives of our early European immigrants,
                    or the earthquakes that toppled Christchurch buildings more than a century ago
                    and lifted Wellington out of the sea.
                    Read the real story about the search for gold,
                    or the visiting circuses whose lions and leopards escaped,
                    or the dinosaur found on a Taranaki riverbank (it’s still there because it was too big to move!)
                    Discover the heroes and villains of our past through long forgotten news stories from New Zealand, the USA, UK and Australia, and find out how life really was in pioneer days.
                    These, and many more, are our stories…

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      • Aunty Helen did that. Labour were good at Embago’s. Just look what Richard Prebble did when he was Minister of Transport to the findings of the Inquiry into the sinking of the Mikhail Lermontov. That too is embargoed for 60 years from it’s release date. Why?

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        • There was a theory going round that the Mikhail Lermontov was piloted onto the rocks at the bidding of the USA. As I recall the Waihopai Station just out of Blenheim was cited as the reason.

          Far fetched for sure but experienced Harbourmasters don’t make mistakes of that magnitude.

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          • Nasska, I was heavily involved in Ship Chartering with a substantial Chartering business in Auckland at the time the Lermentov sank. One of my clients was the Baltic Shipping Co of St Petersburg, owners of the Mikhail Lermentov, who traded out here regularly, mainly with Bulkers and Liner Services. I remember at lunch in St Petersburg sometime after the Inquiry findings were Embargoed, one day asking the Director of BSC, Viktor Kharchenko what happened to the Mikhail Lermentov. He did not want to talk about it, so the rumours of Waihopai may have been on the mark, but the rumours of Jamieson drinking or being tired, I believe are unfounded. Like many Russian vessels of the day and during the Cold War, they were full of sophisticated spy technology as are most Chinese vessels currently trading or visiting any foreign port.

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  9. A couple of Southland hunters are out in the bush when one of them falls to the ground. He doesn’t seem to be breathing and his eyes have rolled back in his head. The other guy whips out his mobile phone and calls the emergency services. He gasps to the operator: “My friend is dead! What can I do?”

    The operator, in a soothing voice, says: “Just take it easy. I can help. First, let’s make sure he’s dead.”

    There is a silence, then a shot is heard. The guy’s voice comes back on the line.

    He says: “OK, now what?”

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  10. I remember reading a piece by Cameron Slater telling us how his old man and Maurice Williamson once sat down talking politics and decided it would be a good idea if they “took over the National Party”. Cameron’s father eventually became President of the Party.
    Whether this is truly accurate doesn’t matter, but I think this scenario needs to happen again. Dump the present Board (especially Goodfellow !!) and get some really savvy people who are only really interested in the good of NZ —they don’t have to be political animals, in fact any of those should be excluded. This would make a great start.

    NZ will only survive if we have people who are brave enough to make the very hard decisions. Tinkering around the edges with issues, which most of the parties are doing now will just delay the inevitable. If you haven’t listened to Leighton Smith’s chat with Stephen Jennings –do it!

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    • ”Tinkering around the edges with issues, which most of the parties are doing now will just delay the inevitable.”

      So true. But why the reluctance of parties to fix core problems NZ face? I believe the answer is fear of Maori and Civil War and global media coverage. This presuppose our political parties have even gone down this line of thought. I doubt it. Two examples:

      1- Outlawing gangs. That would create civil war and would need huge prisons to handle gangbangers and their whanau. Plus the government could not rely on the military for help because many Maori soldiers would refuse to move against fellow Maori.

      2- Welfare: Any move to seriously reform welfare would be meet with wide spread disobedience and condemnation. Many beanies would refuse to work. They would resort to crime, begging or simply starving. Anything but work. Large tent cities would spring up. CBD would become no-go zones.

      Could these problems be overcome. Yes(?) The first step would be to get funding from our wealthy. A feral free, well controlled NZ, would be to their advantage and those of wealthy overseas investors who may want to join in if they could see a future in NZ.

      The next step would involve mercenaries posing as NZ defence force operators… it becomes a little bit unsettling after that, so I will leave it there.

      What the hell, some guy called Andrew has just left a very surely message on my answer phone. Says he works for the gummint.🤔 Hope it’s not my new case manager.

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      • You are absolutely right howitis. It will never happen with the current lot. It will require some outsiders to have a “bloodless” coup. Imagine if Stephen Jennings, “Thomas Cranmer”, Oliver Hartwich, Don Brash and a few others got their heads together and worked out a way to do what Slater and Williamson did.

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        • I don’t know much about S Jennings or Thomas Cranmer -who was only recently outed.

          I would not trust a German; and hartwich has a ‘think tank’ styled too much on the dubious US think tanks.

          Don Brash was leader of Notional for 3 years and also leader of ACT for nearly half a year.
          Having met him a few times in the last 30 years I would not trust him.
          He has severe TDS which he cannot explain when challenged. I have directly asked him what Trump has done wrong. Waffle ..because that is all TDSers have to offer.

          He is an egghead and very naive on many matters.
          He is an academic theorist but not practical
          He was Head of the Reserve bank for 14 years – 12 years too long and he was IMO shitty at that with the NZ economy very bad for almost all that time. 1988 to 2002. Give me Alan Bollard any day of the week.
          A son of a preacher man as well.

          The notional party needs ot be blown apart and reconstituted.
          The damage done by key, farrar and goodfellow plus others unseen is bad.
          The quality of candidates is terrible.
          they needed to stomp on the shit pulled by toddy the mad muller but instead they appeased him. Pathetic.
          and ban the likes of Boag and matty hoooten for all eternity.

          ACT need to take note- squeezing out motivated, thinking candidates may appease the media filth but in the long run you get drones and mealy mouthed soft cocks.
          Good for Ukraine; not good for NZ.

          The vatican and their god must be pleased with the state of the pardy.
          The rest of us – well max 37% of the vote at election – will tell you the story.

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          • I’m not necessarily suggesting these people go on the Board , just organise the coup and make sure the Board has the right people on it and they perhaps contribute in the background. We are essentially agreeing when you say the NP needs to be blown apart and reconstituted.
            But wee need people who will put NZ first, not there egos.
            BTW I only added in Don Brash because he has inside the tent and knows how it works, so would know it’s vulnerabilties in terms of how it works. He might also like to seek some vengance..
            All a bit of dreaming but the only alternative is to wait until they self distruct, which will probably be after NZ has gone over the cliff.

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  11. Bob Jones again !

    https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2023/09/bob-jones-increasingly-desperate-hipkins.html#more

    “His nonsensical announcement to teach “financial literacy” in schools, is I’m informed backed by National. No surprise there if so, the Nats not noted for innovative or deep thought.”

    and

    “I know a few Labour MPs, ALL admit the game is up with the coming election and a landslide beckons, as I’ve forecast on this site for 18 months now. The infantile attempt to popularise Hipkins with the “Chippy” and “sausage rolls” invention was simply embarrassing.”

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  12. Not only did the Canoe People and the Early Settler discover Antarctica, but they went on to do the same to Peru and the America’s beating Chris Colombus to it. I also see Jim Cook of Whitby gets a mention as a Johnny Come Lately. Colonel Klink’s Offspring and her Sister say this:

    “I think the first and foremost, why we’re here is to unify us as Māori and the Inca tribes, and to look at our relationships, pre-colonisation, and in particular, pre-Christopher Columbus and pre-Cook’s arrival.”

    “Part of the research covers ancient routes, suggesting wakas could have travelled from Rakiura, Stewart Island, over to Peru and then into the Americas.”

    Extraordinary that this should come up in Maori Language Week. Should be renamed, Maori Travel and Discovery Week. All this without GPS, the requirement for any vessel leaving these shores to be Cat 1 rated, any lifejackets, longlife milk for the Tea, ships girls, or ships cats.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/maori-delegation-in-peru-to-set-record-straight-on-ocean-voyaging/37K6URVXTBBGJILZBJNX7W3BUM/

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            • The Pacific Ocean south of the Equator is like a big washing machine. The currents align with the winds in the Forties (more so in the 50s & 60s but that’s iceberg territory). As AH points out below the cold Humboldt current runs up South America then turns & follows the equator as do the Trade Winds.

              This was the purpose of Thor Heyerdahl’s Kontiki voyage in 1947 when he sailed from South America to the Tuamotos .

              But as you say…….bloody cold down there. Especially in an open canoe clad in flax skirts & sealskins. Totally unsurviveable & just another dose of wank from graduates of Waikato University.

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    • We of the blogosphere are often accused of making unfounded wild claims but I reckon Maori academics would take the biscuit. Whatever route the Totara & Kumara bearers travelled I have more than serious doubt that Stewart Island to Peru commonly known as the Roaring Forties was it.

      The Roaring Forties were long an important trade route in the days of sailing ships because the winds were constantly blowing to the East in the same direction as the current. The main route from Australia to England dipped below NZ & across the Southern Oceans & around Cape Horn.

      But waka weren’t clipper ships. Imagine surviving seas & conditions such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LskdMqB7Jyc in an open canoe.

      I call bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

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      • Nasska, once they got into the Humbolt Current, it would have dragged them North. The Kumara Bearers could have made two additional claims,

        1. That they discovered the Humbolt Current, and
        2. They would have ended up in the Galapagos Islands where they could have claimed they discovered the Iguana and Tortoise who are now that old, they would have remembered seeing Maori pass by on their way to North America.

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        • Posted this concept yesterday revealing the Maranga Mai Report.
          The doubling down of this stretched Bull-shit !

          Sure a linkage to the Inca’s or more like looking for a linkage to papal bull as probably used by the Spanish, as well & how the papal revocation works.
          Based on a “papal-bull”… “of so-called ‘Doctrine of Discovery’”

          September 10th 2023 …. The Human Rights Commission (HRC) published the Maranga Mai report in February 2023 which says,
          “The principal recommendation of Maranga Mai!
          tasks the government with committing to constitutional transformation and establishing co-governance …
          Central to this reform would be the government condemning and rejecting the constitutional application of the Doctrine of Discovery to Aotearoa…”

          ….. “has become known as the legal and political ‘doctrine of discovery’” is not the Pope’s to revoke, and nor did he do so. ….
          https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2023/09/barrie-davis-maranga-mai-and-doctrine.html?m=1

          To create a doctrine supposedly in rule in NZ, so that it can be repudiated to jump to Co-Governance.
          When that doctrine, papal-bull was never in place the UK in Cook’s time or Governor General Hobson’s time..

          A way of enacting a Catholic guilt syndrome of, needing much repentance, in the form of indulgent compensation, and relinquishment of any control & power.
          To further make the treaty more flexible so the change’s now being pushed seem to be more righteously & sanctimoniously.

          The media itself stifles debate, as they are guided that this is the best way for maori to be redeemed to its power. even via Antarctica & now Peru & the Vatican’s papal bull.
          The media are doubling down in supporting the Catholic version to gain maori co-governance and are doing every thing they can to stop it being openly discussed before the election.

          So much rubbish& trash being heaped that needs to be pulled out & burnt.

          The original treaty, based on the Littlewoods translations. Then:— as they do not like this up them
          This is the one maori phase perhaps to learn?
          ‘He iwi tahi tatou’ now “We are One People

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  13. You all knew the Disinformation Project is a joke but this media release confirms it.

    https://thedisinfoproject.org/2023/09/07/media-release-the-disinformation-project-welcomes-greater-media-scrutiny-on-claims-by-politicians/

    “It’s critical to understand the difference between organised disinformation campaigns and individual instances of false information from politicians, while still holding candidates to a high standard of integrity.”

    and

    “While individual politicians making false statements about their opponents is not comparable to disinformation campaigns in terms of scale and harm, the rise of disinformation actually creates an increased need for politicians to promote accurate information and be a trustworthy source for New Zealanders,”

    Note how they call themselves “an independent research group” —that’s disinformation right there.

    BTW, has any of the parties said they will stop funding Hannah ?

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  14. https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/09/11/dixon-wins-final-race-of-indycar-season-finishes-second-overall/
    Scott Dixon snagged his third win of the season — one week too late to contend for the IndyCar championship — with a strategic run in today’s season finale at Laguna Seca.

    Dixon had been mathematically eligible to challenge Palou for the title until the Portland victory. He was still guaranteed to finish second in the standings, but the greatest driver of his generation was determined to grab one more win.

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  15. Ladies, don’t force your husband to go shopping with you:

    After Mr. and Mrs. Fenton retired, Mrs. Fenton insisted her husband accompany her on her trips to K -Mart. Unfortunately, Mr. Fenton was like most men–he found shopping boring and preferred to get in and get out. Equally unfortunately, Mrs. Fenton was like most women–she loved to browse. One day Mrs. Fenton received the following letter from her local K -Mart.

    Dear Mrs. Fenton,
    Over the past six months, your husband has been causing quite a commotion in our store. We cannot tolerate this behaviour and may be forced to ban both of you from the store. Our complaints against Mr. Fenton are listed below and are documented by our video surveillance cameras.

    June 15: Took 24 boxes of condoms and randomly put them in people’s carts when they weren’t looking.
    July 2: Set all the alarm clocks in Housewares to go off at 5-minute intervals.
    July 7: Made a trail of tomato juice on the floor leading to the women’s restroom.
    July 19: Walked up to an employee and told her in an official voice, “Code 3 in Housewares. Get on it right away.”
    August 4: Went to the Service Desk and tried to put a bag of M&M’s on lay -by.
    September 14: Moved a “CAUTION – WET FLOOR” sign to a carpeted area.
    September 15: Set up a tent in the camping department and told other shoppers he’d invite them in if they would bring pillows and blankets from the bedding department.
    September 23: When a clerk asked if they could help him he began crying and screamed, “Why can’t you people just leave me alone?”
    October 4: Looked right into the security camera and used it as a mirror while he picked his nose.
    November 10: While handling guns in the hunting department, he asked the clerk where the antidepressants were.
    December 3: Darted around the store suspiciously while loudly humming the ” Mission Impossible” theme.
    December 6: In the auto department, he practiced his “Madonna look” by using different sizes of funnels.
    December 18: Hid in a clothing rack and when people browsed through, yelled “PICK ME! PICK ME!”
    December 21: When an announcement came over the loud speaker, he assumed a foetal position and screamed “OH NO! IT’S THOSE VOICES AGAIN!” ..……………………………………………………………………………………………… And last, but not least ..
    December 23: Went into a fitting room, shut the door, waited awhile, then yelled very loudly, “Hey! There’s no toilet paper in here!”
    Regards,
    K -Mart

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  16. Thomas Cranmer
    @CranmerWrites

    Despite huge government support, RNZ is facing an operating deficit of approximately 10% of its revenue this financial year.

    “Modelling done for the Establishment Board last year concludes that, without change, RNZ and TVNZ are financially vulnerable given their gap between revenues and costs. Over the ten years from 2023/24 to 2033/34, the modelling showed RNZ’s and TVNZ’s costs exceeded revenues by $1.63 billion.”

    Three years ago Nine Entertainment sold Stuff to Sinead Boucher for $1 cash consideration plus 36 months of vendor finance describing the media company as a “failing firm” to the Commerce Commission and confirming to the High Court that it would wind the company up if a sale was not completed immediately. The Court agreed to suppress details of Stuff’s financial weakness for several months so as not to compromise the sale. Has the equity value of Stuff increased over the last 36 months or is it, like RNZ and TVNZ, financially vulnerable?

    https://twitter.com/CranmerWrites/status/1701009063612678402

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    • Nobody is listening to govt funded propaganda media’s lies except those who have no idea. Is it any wonder msm is dying? No one likes being lied to or having shit rammed down their throats by their clown masters… 💩💩💩😷👹🤡

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  17. The Free Speech Union are holding a series of debates. Don Brash in an email from Hobson’s Pledge hightlights the next one.

    “be it resolved, ‘one person, one vote’ silences indigenous voices and must go.”

    The affirmative will be argued by Buddy Mikaere and former Race Relations Commissioner Meng Foon.

    The negative will be argued by – someone very familiar to Hobson’s Pledge supporters – our former spokesperson, Casey Costello ! She will be joined by politician Shane Jones.

    I think that will be very one sided.

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  18. Dave Seymour is being caned on ZB at the moment. Accused of being arrogant. Stay strong, Dave. You have made a misstep by ruling out Winnie. But you can’t go back now. Dig in deeper and tell NZ straight. Any vacillation will result in lost votes.

    Dave is first up after five with Heather.

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  19. ‘Time to damage property’: Rocket Lab protesters promise ‘direct action’, Peter Beck’s firm hits back

    Veteran protester John Minto – wearing a “Free Palestine” T-shirt – took to a loud hailer to say, “Rocket Lab started out as a Kiwi company, a great bit of Kiwi ingenuity, and everybody applauded it. But it’s become part of the US military establishment. It’s been bought out by the Americans. And most of the payloads it’s sending into space are on behalf of the US military.”

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/time-to-damage-property-rocket-lab-protestors-promise-direct-action-peter-becks-firm-hits-back/3JPLB3G3MZH7HA6N2DTJELXVPM/

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  20. Three men scale 2-metre high glass barrier to attack man in dock of Napier court

    One of the attackers then fled the body of the court while the other two walked to the jury box, where one lit a cigarette before the detectives could extinguish it and arrest both of them and put them in handcuffs.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300968471/three-men-scale-2metre-high-glass-barrier-to-attack-man-in-dock-of-napier-court

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  21. Most new polls show National would need support from both the Act and New Zealand First parties to form a majority government
    10th Sep 23, 6:00am by Dan Brunskill
    It is becoming increasingly likely that Christopher Luxon could need the support of New Zealand First to form a government after the October 14 election.

    Recent polling shows the party, led by Winston Peters, has been hovering around the 5% threshold for the past month. NZ First was above the threshold in six of the past 10 polls.

    Earlier this week two new polls from Freshwater Strategy and Talbot Mills put NZ First on 6% and 5.4%, respectively, which might suggest the party could win at least six seats.

    That would be enough to block National and Act from forming a coalition alone, and would force Luxon and Act’s David Seymour to work out a governing arrangement with Peters.

    However, a Taxpayers’ Union–Curia poll released on Friday showed NZ First down two points from its previous poll and back below the threshold at just 3.9%.

    https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/124197/most-new-polls-show-national-would-need-support-both-act-and-new-zealand-first

    Ya better get out and vote DNZ or you will be propping up that lazy bastard Peters again.

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    • fuck off with your dnz bullshit ya deluded old shill, how much do you get paid to vomit that shit over blogs and facesmack?

      if you dont want winnie i suggest you vote act, if you dont want seymour i suggest you vote winnie. any other party is a waste of time and you may aswell just stay at home and not bother wasting your time.

      a vote for dnz will just result in your vote being divied up between the successful parties, 10%+ of vikeys vote will go to winnie, 20%+ to act… what a winning strategy from the electoral genius from bobs curtain cleaners.

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          • you lot are allergic to truth esp when its put bluntly by a stupid southland hick that can see the obvious.

            5weeks until merciless mocking of dnz tards (and other freedom party losers) i dont fucking like the guaranteed choices we have to vote for but fuck it ill play the hand im dealt and not try some fake wildcard bullshit that wont work.
            too much is at stake to risk it over a stupid vax or masks ffs, 1 govt i can bear until 2026 election, the other i dont think aoteroa will have a need for elections by 2026 itll be bro governed to the max.

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      • IAASB, Yes you’re right about Viking I suspect it’s actually a university drop out that finds itself unemployable so has taken to the Web in a paid roll to spew the bullshit about a political party that has zero chance of success, either that or it’s an angry old man / woman that enjoys belittling people on a blog avoiding face to face contact where he/she would get bitch slapped into oblivion,LMFAO.

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    • Still not decided who to vote for. The person I most respect is Sue Grey. However, that is a seriously wasted vote. Matt King comes a close second, but will he win a seat? If we could be sure, it would be worth a punt, ( although the inter party issues a few months ago put a cloud over his party). So then its looking more likely that ACT would be the obvious choice, although some of Seymour’s rhetoric irritates me. Luxon is a bit of a wet bus ticket…. Why cant we have a Georgia Meloni to vote for. Great tits and Intelligent.

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      • yep.

        Have you not noticed that Seymours lot are a disappearing ACT? 5 in the last couple of weeks.
        Winston is picking up the deluded They live around you. and he has candidates that have failed or bailed.

        National are the same shit different day. Like Labour thy have been in charge for how many years and where have they both got the country too. And both tell us they can fix their fuck ups. Hell will freeze over before they can.

        The ?Reeens, ask Tarquin.

        Leaves really only one very good choice. Unless you want a blue, red and yellow govt with a black streak doing what he has always done.

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      • I am keeping in contact with some voters up in Northland,
        They seem to have a pocket of support for Matt King, but find it difficult to figure how widespread it is, to if he will make it.
        Sure there are polls, and there is time to run as well. It is all a game of interpretation.
        They figure that the other candidates are not worth it.
        NZFirst. is considered too slippery.
        Maybe they are their own ‘echo chamber’ or not?
        Not avid supporters of ACT, but see National as as a total fudgier.
        Not for the ACT candidate though.

        Their reasoning is anecdotal.

        5 weeks to run, and we will use our own judgement;- not those of demanding Party whips, bringing their own manipulative fears, as if they believe we can not think & figure things.
        They can f- off.

        Yes rol, just listening to Georgia Meloni, was an aphrodisiac for my old bones. 🙂

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  22. Poll Greens up
    Act down

    .
    National and ACT are on track to comfortably form a Government, according to our latest Newshub-Reid Research poll.

    Labour 26.8 percent. …. 5.5-point fall from our last poll.

    National ….. It is on 40.9 percent, up 4.3 points.

    Greens …. They are on 12.3 percent up 2.7 points.

    ACT ….. It’s fallen 2 points to 10.1 percent.

    New Zealand First at 4.6 percent.
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/09/newshub-reid-research-poll-labour-s-support-collapses-as-national-rockets-into-40s.html

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    • is it just me or has there been a hell of alot more polling done then last election? feels like almost every other day theres a new poll out.
      probs a scum media tactic to make non lefties complacent and feel its in the bag and not worry about voting.

      i see dnz is still keeping their powder dry// must be still well below TOPs massive 0.7%… i do hope dnz has manage to get off 0.0%… nah i dont really they deserve to sink for having the vikey albatross crash land on their ships deck.

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  23. made a delivery to a good ole battler today who thinks similar to me in regards to old age….

    “stupid boy im too bloody old, my bodies stuffed, im 86 and 86 is too fucking old. i reckon death at 70 should be compulsory, go out before youre to wrecked, us old bastards are just a bloody burden on everyone”

    what a trooper, i think the same too i sure as hell dont wanna be a fucked old coot thats lost their marbles like a couple folk on here have.

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  24. Hats off to ACT. In today’s emailed edition of “Free Press” they tell it like it is:

    “Previous generations built more homes. In the 60s and 70s, New Zealand produced more than eight new homes per year for every 1,000 people. Through most of the 70s the number was over ten. From the 80s onwards that slipped to six, then as low as four after the Great Financial Crisis.

    In the time that New Zealand has produced fewer homes there’s been declining home ownership, rising prices, and increasing inequality (because the poorest households have less left after paying for housing). If a problem defined is a problem half solved, then New Zealand needs to build more homes again. Our calculations show we need 51,000 homes per year to meet demand, make up for attrition, and fill the backlog.”

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    • They have theirmaths wound up to make themselves look good.

      51000 homes will house around 150000 people give or take a few.
      This takes no account of retirement villages as they are not cointed in the stats as such and the turnover in them is on average 7 years. There are mt’s all ver the place currently and thousands more in construction. Each one requires the incoming resident to sell their 3,4 5, beddy before they can move. Not happening currently and you notice apart from a few grumbles for the motel group their ain’t any complaints in the news of people sleeping in cars, under hedges in tents and so on.
      Have they all doies or moved to Aussie. Seymour being liberal with the truth as always.

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      • i dont think the problem is in supply its i lies mainly with whats been built in the last 10-15yrs… not many basic homes, mini mc mansions that muppets overpay greatly for.
        then theres the air bnb burden but tbh i dont blame those folk for going down the short term accom route vs renting to a potential nightmare scum tennant.

        if tourists both domestic and international went back to hotel/motels and motel folk went back to destroying rentals there would be more then enough houses but the world dosent work like that.

        i like their propasal to opt for insuring vs slow consenting process. vikeys scared of leaky buildings but thatll fall on the insurer so theyll inspect and review plans and price premiums accordingly… dont build ugly wank fag style houses and you shouldnt have too many problems.

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