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  1. Good morning, thank goodness that the drought has broken, I was expecting watering restrictions today, but the rain has at last turned out to be more than a shower. WHEW. And just when we thought summer was here, nope things are supposed to be colder again ready in time for the extended daylight saving. Which I am sure mouldy had pre European times when they were walking around at the time of Jesus.
    Have a happy day and be careful out there.
    Oh and Black labs certainly matter, they are great until there is food out there, and then it’s every dog for themselves. I have never known a dog like them for food, they will eat anything As to who is the boss? You never know, one can sneak up……. and they’re boss for the day, but usually the male. Am I allowed to say that?????

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    • Lizzie, we too have a Lab. To keep it in any sort of lean condition is a life long mission of constant food monitoring and Policeman like behaviour from the Hooligan. It is a real garbage guts that will Hoover up anything at a moments notice and can sniff out food 12.5 kilometers away with the wind blowing at 60 knots in the opposite direction with all the doors closed and bolted for the winter. It is unbelievable.

      It is not like the Dalmatian or the truly mental Jack Russell / Fox Terrier / Border Collie cross we had, they were easy. As you obviously know, a Lab is the greatest food hunting species known to mankind and food is the only thing on it’s mind. Nothing else matters. This thing we have, would ignore a Bitch on heat in the same locked room if the alternative was a little morsel of food somewhere it could get too, no matter how long it took or how difficult the task was, to hunt it down.

      I have found the most dangerous thing in this world is to get between the kennel door and the dogs food bowl, even if the food bowl is empty, there is always the chance that something, no matter how faint the smell, may be in that food bowl and it needs the dogs immediate and constant attention.

      Owning a Lab is a most harrowing experience, and this experience will gain me immediate entry in Mastermind with the subject, “The Obvious.”

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      • we have a choccy lab and 3 merle collies, the lab scoffs down more tucker then the 3 others combined.
        wifey is the food police to stop it turning into a lardarse, when i used to do possuming the deadhole at the back would get 4-500 possums per week tossed in it and while the lab was on a strict diet the bloody thing would just go feast on fresh possum… she would have the shiniest coat a lab ever had but boy did she get podgy. shes lost over 25kg now and looking good.
        oh yea our lab is sorta down syndrome like too, bit special to say the least. bought a lab for a hunting dog but soon realised the pup we got was never going to be capable.
        collies are better, id always owned collies and fucked up when i got the lab. never again so now just collie collie and collie… probs end up with another collie next litter of pups one of our girls has.

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        • SB, try owning an Avocado Orchard and a Lab at the same time. Mate, the Avo’s don’t get a second bounce before the Lab would pounce on them and scoff them like a demented Politician doling out money to the IWI. I can tell you from experience that Avo’s make a Lab a Lardarse in less than 3 days and 7 minutes and that counts sleep time. They are not a good mix

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    • Lizzie@0614

      Re: ‘ I have never known a dog like them for food, they will eat anything’.

      You have evidently never encountered Beagles!

      In the food consumption stakes they make Labs look like amateurs, with the added qualification that if it involves ANYTHING concerned with ‘Food’ they (Beagles) are also incredibly cunning and oddly, very intelligent (But ONLY if it involves ‘Food’ and the getting of same)

      Snoopy has a lot to answer for….

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      • Komatsu,around 10 years ago we had a brindle boxer that we’d adopted because friends just didn’t like him, that dog would sit out on the lawn and guard food thrown out for the birds so the birds couldn’t eat it .
        After A BBQ one day I threw out lettuce,onions,tomatoes etc that had been scraped off the plates and the dog went straight out there to guard it as usual ,after about 10 minutes the cat walked over and sat there glaring at the dog and the bloody dog ate all of it including the onions,now that’s what you call dedication and cat hatred ,LOL.

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        • rev@0851

          It also shows that it was either a VERY BRAVE hound, a very ‘Dim’ hound, or one with either suicidal tendencies or a death wish.

          The cat, being a cat, was merely biding it’s time, collecting ‘Information’ and no doubt wreaked it’s revenge quietly, efficiently and on a date of it’s choosing.

          I doubt that the dog would have known what hit it…

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  2. Two beggars in Manchester, Ali and Habib
    They beg in different areas of Manchester …
    Habib begs just as long as Ali does, but only collects £2 to £3 every day.
    Ali brings home a suitcase FULL of £10 notes, drives a Mercedes, lives in a mortgage-free house and has a lot of money to spend.
    Habib asks Ali :-
    ‘I work just as long and hard as you do but how is it that you bring home a suitcase full of £10 notes every day?’
    Ali says, ‘Look at your sign, what does it say’?
    Habib’s sign reads
    ‘I have no work, a wife and 6 kids to support’.
    Ali says No wonder you only get £2- £3
    Habib says… ‘So what does your sign say’?
    Ali shows Habib his sign….
    It reads,
    ‘I only need another £10 to move back to Pakistan’.

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    • Many many years ago I worked in London at a dry cleaners for a while, and a begger used to sit outside on the road begging, he looked absolutely dreadful a real down and out. Imagine my surprise when he came in to the dry cleaners to get his coat dry-cleaned It was not the coat he begged in, this was a different coat and he dove a really good car too. Wasn’t Ali or Habib either. They make a good living from begging I believe.

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      • Kea’s often seen loitering around the Rai Valley Burger King with a sign around his neck begging.
        If not there he’s at the Pelorus Bridge shithouse with his beak/mouth up against the glory hole doing numbers @ 5 bucks a shot. Disgusting.

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      • Our position on the Bill of Rights

        DemocracyNZ was formed during the era of some of the worst COVID-19 policies, including the “illegal and immoral” vaccination mandates (they are in fact, Justice Cooke’s words in the Yardley case), and in the aftermath of the Parliamentary protest.

        We saw the historical parallels, and recognised the huge danger the country was in if its elected representatives choose to trample basic human rights, especially in a situation of a supposed “emergency” where those very rights are most crucial.

        All the parties currently in the Beehive did this, and they have therefore shown themselves untrustworthy. We saw that the Bill of Rights in itself was not strong enough to restrain governmental overreach, if the elected representatives were prepared to vote for legislative overreach.

        There are inherent weaknesses to the system of democratic government in New Zealand, in particular, the paucity of effective checks and balances to restrain whomever has a majority in the Beehive.

        DemocracyNZ will be that restrainer for the next parliamentary term, and beyond, and we will fight for your freedom, your human rights – and that of your loved ones.

        We need to take a careful look at our constitutional provisions, and find ways to plug the holes in our leaky democracy. This is not simple, or amenable to eye-catching slogans.

        The issue of “entrenchment” has become a hot topic of discussion. As Party Leader, Matt King has gone around the country, speaking to growing numbers of Kiwis about the exciting alternative that DemocracyNZ represents, he has spoken of entrenching the Bill of Rights. He used this term in the plain English sense of solidifying, protecting and preserving the Bill of Rights.

        The Five Waters debacle brought the technical legal term of “entrenchment” into the public eye, where Nanaia Mahuta tried (and failed) to tie future Governments’ hands by slipping a parliamentary entrenchment clause (requiring a larger parliamentary majority for subsequent amendment) into the legislation.

        As part of our policy development, we have looked into whether formally entrenching the Bill of Rights should form part of our policy, and concluded that it shouldn’t. The reason for this is because the weaknesses in the Bill of Rights would not be solved by formally entrenching the Act — this would simply make it more difficult to amend it.

        Future governments could easily still use any pretext they like to pass legislation containing “justified limitations” to the Bill of Rights, even if it is formally entrenched (if we simply say we will entrench the Bill of Rights). The intent of DemocracyNZ has been to strengthen our ability to repeal or object to any legislation that breaches our basic human rights. Therefore, preserving and protecting the Bill of Rights, which is a bottom line of DemocracyNZ, achieves our objective of protecting the basic human rights of all Kiwis.

        Our commitment to uphold the Bill of Rights is unchanged, and this will be a non-negotiable bottom line for us in forming a coalition with any other party. It is that straightforward.

        DemocracyNZ has always, and will always, fight for your freedom, for your human rights – and that of your loved ones.

        https://democracynz.org/assets/DemocracyNZ-Bill-of-Rights-policy-ELECTION-2023-v3.pdf

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  3. I’ll concede that ACT have pulled a vote winner out of the hat. Who recalls National’s idiot science advisor, one Peter Gluckman, advising the government to ban the use of pseudoephedrine based decongestants as they contained a precursor for the manufacturing of “P”. The pearl clutchers & know-alls applauded but the fanfare faded somewhat when they had to write out cheques for the decontamination of their rentals while their noses were blocked. Meanwhile the gangs imported meth by the sackload & home cooked “P” went the way of the horse & buggy.

    ……“For the last decade or so we’ve all been denied some decent cold and flu medication, but the gangs are selling more P than ever,” he said. “It’s time to recognise the gangs have other ways of getting P and fight them where they are, rather than denying New Zealanders pseudoephedrine cough and flu medicine, it is time we got access to some decent drugs when we’re sick again.”……..

    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/act-wants-over-the-counter-pseudoephedrine-back

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            • Then you have a problem. I will be interested to see how you solve it. It would give guidance to RightoverLabour and other astute punters on this blog who have a ”dilemma ” when it comes to choosing a party to vote for.

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              • Well Ronnie, as I have said on here before I will finally decide on October 14th. My original choice at the start was Democracy NZ – am continuing to monitor their progress, or otherwise as time goes on. I keep in close contact for our local candidate Roger Small – Waitaki.
                Have been following the seemingly 35th or so campaign of Winston and his various pledges in regards to both Maoris and Covid/Mandates. Those two items in particular remonstrate with me.
                I am aware that a number on here and other political blogs keep mentioning that he has a track record of not necessarily fulfilling the promises he makes on the campaign trail. I am more of the opinion that at least stating something and failing than not stating and not doing . As often said, name a major Labour policy that National have over turned.

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      • Someone put it well in an article I read in that in this election you can vote according to your heart and conscience, or hold your nose swallow a few dead rats and ensure the Government changes. (or something to that effect). I am in that position, and I ponder this dilemma every day. And I suspect that many of the more astute on this blog are in the same position.

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        • The more astute already know the answer. It’s the others who are conflicted between their rights to chose and their rights to freedom and voting for parties that will never recogniose those rights as they are all about control of your life.
          That includes Seymour.who is currently saying anything to rescue his position.
          At the end of voting then the shit fights will start and like previously they will go on forever and we will either be back voting again soon or put up with shit for the next 3 years until WEL has you under your thumb.
          How dumb.

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          • Have to agree with Viking, ROL. We just disagree about ACT. It’s as plain as sunlight to me. On CURRENT policy and polling, ACT is your only choice if you want a change of government, a weapon to skew Nationals aim of woke compromises, and as a last ditch chance (?) of holding on to the remnants of democracy.

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              • We have talked about this before. I have explained my position on vaccine mandates within the current hierarchy of political imperatives.

                But you vacillate. What are you going to do? Who are you going to vote for?

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                  • Then why vote? Best not to. I haven’t voted in ages. I have only come out this year to vote because another year of Labour would be toxic to our economy and would lead to the total demise of democracy under the cover of giving to Maori what they are entitled to under the TOW ( revised edition)

                    I don’t get the angst and vacillating about who to vote for given the issues everyone is bitching about on this blog, other blogs, and social/msm media.

                    The correct answer ”ain’t blown in the wind’, it’s ACT/ National. That simple.

                    Realistically you have only minor parties to vote for. All vote wasters.

                    Now what isn’t simple is should Nats/Act not deliver significant changes during their first term in office. That would mean a 2026 election no one will be able to predict. That’s if civil disruption hasn’t broken out by then.

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                    • You didn’t vote? So you were part of the problem! You have NO trouble giving those of us who didn’t vote Labour your advice tho!

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    • “For the last decade or so we’ve all been denied some decent cold and flu medication…

      It was probably banned because it was too effective against the flu, dropping flu vaccine sales, and like Ivermectin, too effective against the Covid-19 that was in ‘development’.

      Pseudoephedrine and its derivatives antagonize wild and mutated severe acute respiratory syndrome-CoV-2 viruses through blocking virus invasion and antiinflammatory effect.

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34472141/

      While Seymour is at it, perhaps he can take the ban off Ivermectin. No, of course he wouldn’t. That would mean acknowledging the herd of elephants in the room.

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    • The greatest revisionist in finding plausible ‘con’ reasons for what he does.
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      [Winston Peters] …. “How could I negotiate with someone who might not be there in a few weeks?
      Ring him up and see what he says, he won’t deny it, he can’t.”
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      Last night Newsroom asked English and he not only denied it, he slammed it.
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      In a text, English said: “Deny. It’s a ridiculous claim.” Pressed for more, he said: “Mr Peters’ claim is a fabrication.”
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      The former National leader went a step further, suggesting Peters’ claim now “indicates he could find a reason to go with Labour again after this election”. ………

      https://www.newsroom.co.nz/election-2023/peters-writes-his-own-history-on-backing-labour-in-2017
      .
      Of course Helen Clark supports Winston Peters as “”Helen Clark said the relationship she and Winston Peters had when they were in government together was always professional and based on mutual respect.”
      All to aid her beloved Labour Party back into power, and be just as fully on board with the UN + Sustainable Development Goals. (SDG’s)
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      The sky is the limit for what Hipkins would offer and the other troughers, Greens & Te parti maori would all be in support. even if it slows down some of their agendas.
      Would it be that even Hipkins is the sacrificial Prime Minister to commit sepuku?
      A way of getting rid of Hipkin’s ‘stop’ on the “wealth tax” while WP is crowned PM?
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      Could Luxon ever offer enough to Winston Peters?
      Would it be said later by WP that Luxon could be “rolled” or is too “inexperienced”?
      Or that it was going to be impossible with Seymour breathing down their necks.
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      So is it a “wokism” or Groucho Marx’s “principles” that will fall into to a “melting pot”?

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  4. if you wanna know why creating division is so important to politicians and media… “it should be us against them but theyve made it you against me”

    dang how true, and then when you think about it the co gov/ special ppl thing is just using the same talking points on both sides only thing different is the race.

    white colonisers have been given special privileges and maori are disadvantaged due to their race/skin colour, lets fight to be equal…

    maori have been given special privileges and everone else is disadvantaged due to their race/ skin colour, lets fight to be equal…

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  5. Napier’s Martin Langford has been fixing people’s teeth for decades both in the UK and Hawke’s Bay but now wants to turn his focus to politics.

    The Democracy NZ candidate is one of seven candidates vying for the Napier seat at the October 14 general election.

    Whatever happens, the seat will be won by a new face, after Labour MP Stuart Nash announced earlier this year he will not contest the seat in the wake of a scandal coming to light around his leaking confidential Cabinet information.

    The seat has been held by only Labour or National MPs since World War II.

    Langford owns and works as a dental surgeon at Pearl of Ahuriri dentistry, and has lived in Napier for the past 27 years after growing up in the UK.

    He has never run for local or central Government roles before but believed this was the time to do so, due largely to concerns he has with the Government and Opposition.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/election-2023-dental-surgeon-runs-for-napier-seat/WPPBPUHDHJCKXPSFPSEJU4XPBM/

    Democracy NZ is led by former National MP Matt King and has 13 candidates dotted around the country, with Langford number four on its list.

    Nice one.

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    • It’s something well worth watching out for but given the source of the information I wouldn’t be rushing to accept everything they print. The article links to, https://created4health.org/the-brain-myth-your-intellect-and-thoughts-originate-in-your-heart-not-your-brain/

      They’re a pack of true blue, certifiable Godnutters who go to great lengths to help us understand that the Bible has no reference to the brain (which will be self evident to anyone who has read the crap) but insists that the heart makes the important decisions.

      Still to come is how our large intestines control our breathing or the way in which our ears help us to run.

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      • It is more likely Jesus said to a male disciple, something like “Beware, that organ when engorged with blood can is capable of controlling your feelings and your actions.

        “A warming in old Hebrew to not think with your little head.”

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      • People are largely controlled by feels and circle back to try and construct rational reasons to support the feels. Some don’t even bother with the rational part and just repeat the mantras of their chosen group and lash out with personal attacks if they are presented with facts.

        For example – the sticks n gib cult.

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    • They might have face recognition but they will be living in mud huts again, I would love to visit for about 15 minutes in 50 years time and see how this woke shit pans out. There will be 98% living in mud huts and the other 2% will be lording it over them.

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              • SA, Watch out there SA the old fella is naming his troops, Im to much of a nice guy to actually say that Vikey couldn’t spell to save his life ,ive told him a couple of times to “reprograamm his spellt cheek”

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            • KEA ,LOL, sorry diddums for upsetting you , I admit your intellectual level is by far the the highest on YSB, just look at your eloquent comments made towards half a dozen of your intellectual inferiors on this esteemed blog .
              BTW where did I mention the German people , I have lived in that country and know what they are like ?
              I mentioned only your loved Idle Hitler ,a man whose favourite passtime was looking for hours up close at female genitalia,,no wonder he is your favourite Man in history, luckily for you every mirror gives you the same experience he so enjoyed.

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              • You didn’t live in Germany post world war one dickhead. And if you understood the German people you would question the popular narrative about them following an intemperate ranting maniac. You would know better.

                But like I said – you are a social psychopath who has no actual morality so you just fake it for likes.

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                • KEA , Actually Kea you never said that ,but lying with a straight face is a well known trait of closet pedophiles such as yourself, put down the liquor you fucking idiot ,ring one of the “hotties” from your imaginary office, if she says “no” offer her an imaginary pay rise or a mountain run. 🙄 🤣 😴 🤔.
                  Unlike yourself I have lived in Germany, I’ve not just spent time reading Nazi memorabilia ,one hand flipping the pages the other flipping your junk.

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                  • Revy – I am concerned and alarmed by your increasingly elaborate fantasies.

                    But lets test your logic shall we?; I live in NZ therefore the absurd claims from Maori activists about holocausts and subjugation of Maori people must be true. Because I lived in NZ.

                    You are full of shit. If you did actually live in Germany in the 1930’s, as you suggest, then you would have been a big fan of Hitler as you mindlessly traipse along with the popular narrative – hoping it will get you likes and maybe a root.

                    Just decided I will do a 20km mountain run tomorrow. Thanks for asking. I will let you know how it goes.

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  6. Is anybody going to the motorhome show at Mystery Creek?
    I am helping out on the All Points Camping Club of NZ site in the Pohutukawa (red) marquee. Down an alleyway on the west side of the big building. Am on in the afternoons 1 -4 pm.
    If you are there call in and say Hi

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      • yes . If I say something then I stick to it, unlike so many of you smarmy pricks here who were all supportive of DemocracyNZ but have now deserted their core beliefs and gone with the woke shit of ACT and National. Voting for these idiots and expecting change is like voting for Winstone first to keep national honest. How did that work out?
        “Not this Time’ is your feeble excuse.
        If not now, when?

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            • ROL@1232

              So therefore, if you ‘Don’t trust him [Winnie] , and never will’, pray tell us whom, amongst the current lot, you actually DO trust-enough to favour with your vote?

              Currently, the available options appear to be:

              Hipkins, labour et al. We’ve seen what they do and what the country has become as a result, so definitely not.

              luxflakes: Useless as a polly, full of his own self importance and hubris,and wanting everyone to love him (And learn te reo), Also a NWE/WEF supporter.

              Seeless: Pro jab, Pro persecusion for the unjabbed, and a NWO/WEF supporter.

              The Gweens: Comunism on steroids masquerading as ‘Environmental concern’

              Which only leaves Winnie…

              So, therefore Sir, please enlighten us as to why Winnie ISN’T the best option we have, and advise us which of the otherwise useless people/ parties listed above we actually SHOULD vote for and why?

              Hoping that you’ll respond (And politely), give us the benefit of your knowledge and share your opinion.

              Thank you

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            • An interesting take by Chris Trotter, as I have said this earlier, to cause a snap election may not be as punished the media pundits make out.

              Would we be up for snap election next year, before the 2024 Budget?

              …. Seymour’s strategy should be to convince at least one-in-three right-wing voters that they must vote Act – or face a National government even squishier than John Key’s. ….
              https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/chris-trotter-calling-the-big-dog-s-bluff

              One of the reasons I initially supported DNZ in being on the cross benches, and if they caused the government to fall, & then if National or ACT seek to shore up their positions with Greens, Maori or even Labour, would be very strongly remembered in the next election.
              And then an opportunity with more publicity, noting that any media denigration will be free advertising. 🙂
              So it seems ACT is stepping it up to that DNZ level also.

              Well spotted Chris Trotter, even though you seem to now support NZFirst.
              Is it because Red Chris Trotter senses the connection NZFirst will make with Labour as I mention above:–
              https://ysb.co.nz/have-your-say-1614/#comment-355092
              & to bring about a “wealth tax” on Hipkin’s PM resignation with handbraking slides by Winston Peters with his capitalism views?

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        • ”Smarmy pricks here who were all supportive of Democracy NZ but have now deserted their core beliefs and gone with the woke shit of ACT.”

          😀😃😄😅

          Good on, Mr Editor. Best to die standing up than on your knees. We have lots in common…except when it comes to politics and the art of what is possible within any confines.

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        • hilarious, Ed forgets dnz shit all over their core belief of ENTRENCH the bill of rights. watered it down to a point its meaningless just so an ex pig to try get his snout back in the trough.

          dnz has changed their stance and watered down on a few things already, theyve proven themselves untrustworthy without even being elected.
          dnz, act, nats, green, labour, nzf etc dosent matter who you vote or who gets in theyre all fucking scum bags including your politician pig mate.

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  7. Direct democracy, the political system minor parties are raving about

    Boiled down, direct democracy is putting more decisions to the people, typically through binding referenda.

    There are varying iterations of this in use throughout the world and referenda can be held for big Government decisions or ideas the public come up with, if they are endorsed by a certain percentage of the populational, called citizens-initiated binding referenda.

    New Zealand currently has provisions for citizens-initiated referenda. It also holds referendums on certain issues – think the $26 million flag decision or the referenda on euthanasia and cannabis at the 2020 election.

    However, it’s making these referenda binding and using them more often which a number of smaller right-leaning parties, including Brian Tamaki’s Freedoms New Zealand party, Liz Gunn’s New Zealand Loyal party and Democracy NZ, and the more centrist TOP party, are calling for.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132934109/direct-democracy-the-political-system-minor-parties-are-raving-about

    Apply the some to local councils as well. Allow only ratepayers to vote.

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  8. A North Korean farmer is finally rewarded after fifty years of hard labour for the State
    A party official visits the farmer in his simple living quarters and proclaims

    “Comrade, for your hard work and absolute dedication to the great leader and the Democratic People’s Republic, we would like to reward you with a car”

    The humble farmer nods silently to show his appreciation, the party official continues;

    “As you know, North Korean industry is the the most powerful and efficient in the world, and as such we will have your car delivered to you in exactly 8 years”

    The humble farmer then signals to the official to wait, and he crosses the room to check his calendar. After flipping through for some time he finally says;

    “Morning or afternoon?”

    The party official is rather offended, and remarks “comrade, you are being given a car! And that privilege aside, delivery is 8 years away, what does it matter if it’s morning or afternoon?”

    To which the farmer responds “Well, the plumber is coming in the morning…”

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    • Get off your knees simp. Women have rights and get a fair trial in Afghanistan. Here men are punished based on accusation without any due process.

      Hitler was defending his country and his measures were in proportion to the problems he addressed. I’m not interested in your fake history and moral grandstanding. Stab out your eyes with a corkscrew since you are immune to reading facts.

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      • KEA “Hitler was defending his country” HA HA HA HA HA HE HE HE LMFAO , against what ?
        ” Moral grandstanding” is that your description of the truth?
        If you haven’t already got at your little sister send her to Afghanistan in a mini skirt and braless top and see how she’s treated ,such a moronic statement you made.
        I’ve warned you before about the consequences of early liquoring.

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        • Are you really that ignorant of history and the circumstances of the German people at that time?

          The fact is you don’t care because you are a moral and intellectual cripple who is simply repeating propaganda in the hope you will receive social validation and approval from other low resolution thinkers.

          It is actually people like you who persecute others and allow tyrants to have power and do terrible things. Not those of us who think for ourselves.

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  9. WG,I’ve noticed Dan is getting more strident with his choice of words in the last couple of months ,he must have got the OK from his Mrs..
    He’s by far my favorite show ,a man of honor who told Google to go fuck themselves, because of his previous employment he has many great information sources.

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  10. Chris Hipkins: “Delivers division, not outcomes.”

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/09/election-2023-don-brash-s-hobson-s-pledge-returns-fire-with-attack-ad-taking-aim-at-chris-hipkins.html
    Lobby group Hobson’s Pledge has hit back at the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions (CTU) with an attack ad of its own – this one taking aim at Labour leader Chris Hipkins.

    Hobson’s Pledge, led by former National Party leader Don Brash, has published an ad featuring a black and white Hipkins with the caption: “Delivers division, not outcomes.”

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  11. My wife caught me in bed with another woman, she came home early with a headache (she got a load of those).
    “I can explain.” I said.
    She crossed her arms and said, “Go on then.”
    “Ok, so I went to town this morning and saw this young girl begging, scruffy and in need of a bath, so I offered to help her, I brought her home, ran her a bath, and I used those bath bombs you made buy from Harrods for £50. Because you liked the colour, then said you wouldn’t use them because you didn’t like the smell. Then while she’s in the bath I washed her clothes and they fell apart, so I gave her that designer blouse I bought you for £150, but you said it made you look frumpy and you’ve never worn it. Then I gave her those designer jeans you just had to have, but by the time I had them made to measure for £500, you said they were out of fashion and never wore them either.”
    “So what’s all that got to do with you sleeping with her?” she asked.
    “Well as she was leaving, she turned to me and with a tear in her eye said, ‘you’re so kind, is there anything else your wife don’t use?’….”

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  12. ROL@1232

    So therefore, if you ‘Don’t trust him [Winnie] , and never will’, pray tell us whom, amongst the current lot, you actually DO trust-enough to favour with your vote?

    Currently, the available options appear to be:

    Hipkins, labour et al. We’ve seen what they do aand what the country has become as a result, so definitely not.

    luxflakes: Useless as a polly, full of his own self importance and hubris and wanting everyone to love him (And learn te reo), Also a NWE/WEF supporter.

    Seeless: Pro jab, Pro persecusion for the unjabbed, and a NWO/WEF supporter.

    The Gweens: Comunism on steroids masquerading as ‘Environmental concern’

    Which only leaves Winnie…

    So, therefore Sir, please enlighten us as to why Winnie ISN’T the best option we have, and advise us which of the otherwise useless people/ parties listed above we actually SHOULD vote for and why?

    Hoping that you’ll respond (And politely), give us the benefit of your knowledge and share your opinion.

    Thank you

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    • I don’t trust Hipkins either. He lies like a flat fish. I suppose there are none I trust completely, Just Winston and Hipkins I don’t trust at all. Winston has destroyed every government he has been part of and he anointed Ardern. The last 6 years can be blamed on his fuckwittery in 2017. So I’ll vote for the politicians I despise least. But be my guest, vote for whoever you please. I’m not telling anyone who to vote for, but I will point out some of those that can’t be trusted. And Winston is at the top of that list.

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  13. Another piece of Democrat scum.
    Senator Menendez indictment: Corruption allegations after gold bars, cash-stuffed envelopes found

    Powerful Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey was charged with secretly aiding the authoritarian Government of Egypt and trying to thwart the criminal prosecution of a friend in exchange for gold bars and cash under a corruption indictment that accuses him of using his foreign affairs influence for personal gain.

    Menendez was forced to relinquish his chairmanship of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee but said he would not resign from Congress, though New Jersey’s governor, a fellow Democrat, and other Democrats in the state’s congressional delegation said he should.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/senator-menendez-indictment-corruption-allegations-after-gold-bars-cash-stuffed-envelopes-found/TCKS2UM2LJBLJCUUHX2VXCTVC4/

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  14. 6.42 and Kea has left the conversation, last seen barely hanging onto his perch at a 30 degree angle ,spew drbbling from his beak and heard incoherently muttering about sticks and jib ,Hitler ,mountain running ,young girls hot for him in his office and last but not least “one day those bastards on YSB will realize how lucky they were to have me in their midst” followed by a slow rotation to where his beak slams into the huge pile of parrot crap he’s expelled in a long day of comments, sleep well my feathered friend, LOL.

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  15. Strange that we hear so little from the New Conservatives & their backers nowadays. Colin Craig, Elliot Ikilei, John Stringer, God & all the rest of those who know best how we should live our lives don’t seem to have much to say for themselves.

    So sad. /////

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    • i dont know whats more disturbing, that some idiots vote for that party or that you know those names presumeably without google searching.
      im guessing if they werent god based you wouldnt take any interest in them?

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      • Get real. Ten years ago they were household names. Colin Craig & John Stringer were slugging it out in the High Court for ages after the NZ Conservatives crashed & burnt. Elliot Ikilei then became leader but a phoenix he wasn’t.

        Those who ignore or refuse to acknowledge history are condemned to repeat it.

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        • we both live in very different households then.

          10yrs ago tho i wouldnt have given a fuck about politics or the dramas associated with it, didnt give a fuck about anything happening in the world around me really….
          wish i could go back to that, ignorance is bliss.

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          • Things have also changed though with the rise of far left extremism. It was always there but had limited support. Now around 50% of the population buy into leftist extremism. You can’t just ignore them as it is so pervasive and aggressive.

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          • dang, its actually rather depressing thinking back to 10yrs ago.
            stupid boy had no internet, no smartphone, no interest in politics or public dramas/ events, didnt watch news (dont now bit did for several years in between).
            everything was a shitload cheaper, nz was a pretty good country and although there was a bit of bro stuff the country as a whole was rather united, nowhere near the division we have today.

            life was simple, life was sweet. think the internet and smartphone was the worst thing that happened, cant be so ignorant of things when damn near every website ya go to thrusts the issues in your face.

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            • Yep. I think the 1990’s and 2000’s were ok. But it has reached a tipping point now and yes it is entirely the doing of the online environment. Even in real life people fake things for likes, just as they do on line. They live a lie and wonder why they their sense of wellbeing is so shitty.

              I am well aware that people complained about the state of society as far back as recorded history goes – but on that spectrum we have reached an extreme seldom seen.

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            • Are you talking about the 1970s ?

              10 years ago we had the fag referendum, asset sales and the start of the immigration-from-Shithole floodgates opened.
              Fonterra was still badly run and the greens were still commie azzholes.

              The PM was a globalist operative and WEF advocate that signed up to UNDRIP, paris climate nonsense and was all huggy with warlord obama.

              It was certainly not all caramel milkshakes and marching bands

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    • J Stringer was matey with fruity Farrar.
      Used to post some god awful shite on Fruity blog.

      Elliot Ikilei had bucket loads more personality than Leighton Baker who now has a Party with his own name as THE name.
      No Freedoms, or Independence , or Xtian values sort of name.
      The personality of a wet tea towel.

      Conservatives. They were a weird mob.
      Creepy Coooolon
      oops here comes a lawsuit.
      As is so often with the Xtians, he was just another pervie
      I am amazed his wife was not called Tammy Faye.

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      • We who are not Godfreaks owe a debt to Graham Capill whose 2005 conviction for fiddling little girls put paid to the possibility of a successful Christian party for at least thirty years.

        But it wasn’t all good. What they did was infiltrate & take over the National Party instead.

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        • Too many of the bastards in politics.
          A far cry from separating church and state.
          The notional pardy of 2023 is god-awful with god botherers.

          My experience is that the religious types are greater than average at lying.
          They have already sold themselves on a BIG Lie so further lies come easy.

          The catholic church is a disgraceful outfit that never reigned in the rapists, causing more to join in.

          The church of England ‘leadership’ is now godless morass of woke activists

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  16. CHRIS TROTTER: Calling The Big Dog’s Bluff
    IT IS THE CONSIDERED VIEW of the political punditocracy that the Act leader, David Seymour, is bluffing. The conventional wisdom of the so-called “experts” has not changed since New Zealand adopted MMP – any small party responsible for forcing an early election will be wiped out. The voters will not be trifled with – not by small parties demanding more than their share of the Party Vote entitles them. That being the case, Seymour must be bluffing. End. Of. Story.

    But is it? It was inevitable that at some point, some minor party leader was going to call bullshit on the conventional wisdom. The only real surprise is that it has taken nearly 30 years of MMP coalition governments to produce someone willing to think the unthinkable. Fitting that it should be the leader of Act, because thinking the unthinkable has long been touted as Act’s stock-in-trade.

    https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/chris-trotter-calling-the-big-dog-s-bluff?postId=b8be08fe-1f32-49f3-b05e-5ee8ae3a15c7&utm_campaign=c9beb5cc-0bd3-4a51-9f1d-153700e4b48e&utm_source=so&utm_medium=mail&utm_content=fd4152e7-b7c3-4dff-ac70-9cc416d3aff8&cid=0e30c3c6-5fa5-4aad-8fbb-f511907bcec4

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  17. Is China’s Xi Losing the Mandate of Heaven?
    There are abundant signs that the communists are losing the mandate of heaven

    It is no surprise that China’s Xi Jinping has been called a modern-day emperor. Chinese emperors have historically claimed the “Mandate of Heaven” to rule China, and Mr. Xi seeks to extend that mandate to rule not just China but the entire world.
    The Mandate of Heaven (天命) is a Confucian concept developed during China’s Zhou Dynasty (c. 1046–256 B.C.E.) in which “Heaven” conferred on the Chinese emperor (the “son of Heaven”) the right to rule China. The concept is similar to the European “divine right of kings,” which Britannica defines as “a political doctrine in defense of monarchical absolutism, which asserted that kings derived their authority from God and could not therefore be held accountable for their actions by any earthly authority such as a parliament.”

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/opinion/is-chinas-xi-losing-the-mandate-of-heaven-5489640?utm_source=uschinanoe&src_src=uschinanoe&utm_campaign=uschina-2023-09-22&src_cmp=uschina-2023-09-22&utm_medium=email&cta_utm_source=uschinanoecta&est=Mzb2BBNPiYGKK2ts14kqLIFTSpVH5PG7UyAEIqWmH15Y2eo6VE05ky2auWn%2FifA%3D

    Interesting read.

    Another article to go with the above one.
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/opinion/what-if-xi-jinping-survives-the-present-challenges-in-china-5489952?utm_source=uschinanoe&src_src=uschinanoe&utm_campaign=uschina-2023-09-22&src_cmp=uschina-2023-09-22&utm_medium=email&cta_utm_source=uschinanoecta&est=ipq6uOPUCUfVt%2B699db5d%2BZX3pamFIWR5A4A3zCoAHorxMnThsKcgcJ3eH8CoJM%3D

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