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  1. Having recently travelled in daylight via SH1 and SH5 from Waikato to Hawkes Bay I suspect MPI has abandoned 1080 for possum control in favour of a reidrubber so,ution. The tarmac is strewn with the carnage of the night before.
    Instead of playing the usual travelling games with the kids like ‘spot a mini’ or ‘white horse, black dog’ families can count the possum-to-pothole ratio.

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    • Yep PG, I was thinking exactly the same not long ago. I travel a lot of the country roads from the reaches of the Darkest King Country to the Waikato, Taupo, Hawkes Bay, Wellington and Wanganui on a very regular basis and the number of Possums littering the road, after failing to recognise the Two Moons that were descending on them at a fast rate of knots and take avoiding action, is rapidly increasing. Either they are a very dumb breed of Possum or the usage of 1080 has reduced heavily.

      The worst is through the bush over the Waitui Saddle between Taumarunui and Turangi.

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    • my trip over to south westland last month was the most possums dead or alive ive seen there in 20yrs. just had a 1080 dump a month or so prior aswell, heaps squished but even more of the critters running across the road tho, lots of deer around on the road too.
      maybe the coons are getting wary of the 1080 now? after extensive use for many decades its inevitable theyll learn its green death and avoid it, possums are pretty clever animals.

      when i was possuming a few years back i was using mainly cyanide, the survivors would learn quickly after watching their mates eat it or have a sub lethal dose. i had a couple of trail cams setup at times and recorded poison shy possums coming in and destroying my baits rendering them useless, also observed a big to giving its juvinile offspring a hiding for going near it too. these were after 5-6days prefeeding with yummy aniseed flavoured pellets, you get to a stage where you cant poison them and have to resort to traps… even then theres a few clever coons that know whats up.

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    • I have heard a small rumble, as things are not discussed with the plebs.
      A farmer whose land was teed up this year, for the program of possum reduction, was told that at the last moment it was postponed until next year 2024.
      He had enough critical contacts to find out, & it is being kept quiet.
      Not official but he found that the reason being that local iwi’s whatever & wherever they are, need much more consultation to be done about killing possums, so that “window” of time was lost.
      He doubts it will be sorted out in time for next years window of killing possums, so that all the land in that watershed is done.

      What it is coming to is farming possums, so an area can recover so a fee can be charged by some of the land owners. That way the hunter for possum fluff will become sustainable.

      The problem of that program has been mission creep, as the original concept was to target the unhealthy TB infected possums.

      August 2020 …. Bovine TB in NZ. …. from an all time high of 1698 infected herds in 1995 to …. ….. lowest …. 18 infected herds in May 2022
      https://irishvetjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13620-023-00248-7

      30-40 years ago I was totally surprized that Taranaki around Mt. Egmont suddenly had a zest to kill very healthy possums & by charging farmer rates, & government Conservation money, so another empire could grow.

      So many possums are now good healthy possums in New Zealand.
      We now also have the most healthy deer population too, as the cycle will repeat, of deer culling, with recent increasing big numbers of deer where deer were never known to be.
      Rabbits & hares are on the increase.
      Nearly forgot, wild pigs numbers are up too.

      Love it when a deer hunter, pig hunter has a body draped across the 4×4’s bonnet & a few more stacked on the back, parked in town on a state hi-way main road. 🙂 🙂 Need more of them, as it looks very sustainable in my area. 🙂

      So it has become a blast by government greenies of “Zero Pests” in New Zealand & to create “safe areas”.
      So the desire to micro-chip cats, & fence them in. What a joke!

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      • PS Recently heard that Canadian geese numbers are in new areas, have become well established in large numbers.

        Some of these pests need real gun power for the hunter.
        Oh & also on goats.

        Years ago when a kid the first possums in the area, I found to be very resilient to a slug gun. Poor possum.
        Same as my school friends found that goats could seem to remain sustainable against the 22’s.

        Still it seems to be government policy now to make these animals suffer, by not being so able to double tap. or clean out a mob of goats quickly & efficiently.

        Another major cost to get the government licenced, permitted, exempted, pest controllers, with the dead hand of government “I am here to help you” that know how to waste major time & money, like the kill of the wallabies costing ten’s of thousands per wallaby.

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      • Simpleton1, speaking of wild game We’ve been staying at lake Rotoiti and I was amazed at the amount of people coming back to camp with buckets full of big fat trout ,those lakes must he very healthy at the moment.

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  2. 1080????? Wash your mouths out, that is not politically correct these days. Give possums a chance to grow into useless beings who offer nothing in the world other than eating the roses. Councils do not offer to rid the world of these pests, is there anything like a rabbit hunters department these days? They even have a new mowing schedule at the parks, only mowing part of the parks around the outsides now, letting the grass in the middle and bugs flourish, making safe spaces for them. life as we once knew it is long forgotten, its is climate change/global warming you know, its the new reason for councils and whaka kotahi to bring the country to third world or even fourth world standards.
    Have a good day people, be safe out there. .

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    • There is Lizzie, nothing like a good dose of 1080. It is a great wake up call. Here at the Central King Country Branch of “Ingested 1080 Lives Matter”, we recommend, particularly if you are furry, a good feed of 1080 laced carrots first thing in the morning. It helps focus on ones eating habits later in the day.

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  3. dont keep or use cash cuz of…. no insurance
    https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/133142188/cash-stuffing-heres-why-you-should-think-twice-about-joining-the-tiktok-trend

    they really use every excuse they can think of to herd the sheeple to cashless society.

    mrs sb used the envelope way for many years weve been together to stick to our budget and savings goals. dont use it anymore but probably should go back to it again, once groceries went through the roof we gave up trying to stick to a set budget and the spend could fluctuate 100-150 up or down each week depending on wifeys grocery demands and garden supply of veges.

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    • Ronnie, “If anybody is qualified to talk about the evil agenda of the global elite, it’s Richard Werner. As a rising economist and WEF Young Global Leader in the early 2000s he was personally groomed by Klaus Schwab for a key role in the WEF.”

      I did not realise Dick Werner had taken over Cindy’s position. I thought Adolf’s Valet and Driver, Klaus, had especially groomed Cindy, with her being a “Rising Young Global Leader” as well. Can’t have too many Leaders as it becomes confusing, then there becomes an uprising amongst the ranks of “Global Leaders”. And then, “Trouble at Mill”.

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        • Komata, the Australian Banks, Commonwealth (ASB), Westpac, etc, are all pushing for a cashless society in Australia. They will be pushing this shit upon us very soon and there will be little pushback from the young, the lazy and the woke.

          But it will be the charities, the buskers, the schools who run fund raising sausage sizzles and many, many more who will loose out.

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            • Turkeys voting for Christmas.

              I’ve been saying exactly the same to my son-in-law for ages. He’s a middle manager in banking with a big mortgage and he just looks at me blankly and I can see him thinking “silly old fart, what does he know?”

              He’s got a degree in economics and his reply is always something along the lines of “Digitising the currency will streamline the economic process and reduce costs across the board so everybody will be better off”.

              I won’t feel any joy when the axe falls, coz he’s a pretty nice guy and he’s good for my daughter and grandchildren. But I can’t help wondering how people can be so blind.

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              • Eurokiwi@0951

                How can they be so blind? Very easily, especially as having been relentlessly taught that to ‘Think outside the square’ (aka ‘non-conformaty’) is a totally unacceptable practice, they now no-longer even contemplate doing so.

                They have now been ‘moulded’ by society and are very willing serfs (Although no-doubt denying that possibility)

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                • Only about 20% of people actually do critical thinking. I’m actually a fan of a digital currency so long as it’s backed against precious metals, so unable to be inflated like fiat money, and we have actual teeth preventing governments from doing what turdeau did in Canada with the truckers.
                  No problems with going on a silver or gold standard either.

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                  • BM it seems that Brics could go digital as they are based on your concept.
                    The joker in the pack is how many certificates of gold will be produced.

                    The BRICS Group, are slowly working out the commonality of their currencies which will be based on Gold.
                    Brazil, Russia, India, China, Saudi Arabia, South Africa,
                    Will be interesting as though I do not trust all those countries, but if physical gold basis can be audited & confirmed, may make it make things workable.

                    https://www.reuters.com/markets/currencies/what-is-brics-currency-could-one-be-adopted-2023-08-23/

                    There will be teething problems and some of the other countries will have to sort out their own issues too.

                    Just getting bigger solves nothing; If you are not doing things right when in a small way.

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                • WG, have you noticed any reticence from some businesses to take cash? More from the annoyance level than anything else. I was in Godfreys the other day buying vacuum bags. There are two separate counters where you pay, depending on whether you pay cash or not. I handed the assistant a $50 note. He looked surprised and said ”oh, you are paying in cash? I asked if that was unusual. He said yes as he trudged to the other counter. I haven’t used this cash register all week.

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                  • Noticed the lack of ability to work out the change to give. It was second nature to do it in ones head way back in the day. Basic arithmetic. Now it’s just as well they have a calculator on their phone.

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                  • Cash is a damned nuisance in a business.
                    It is a security risk both internally and externally.
                    It takes staff to count it and reconcile it.
                    Someone needs to run along to the bank with it.
                    It costs you to deposit it.
                    It requires floats for change.
                    It costs extra to get change from the bank.

                    Sure the bank hammers you on credit card commissions etc as well, but cash isn’t as free as you might think if you don’t have a business.

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                    • Been in business. Yes cash is a hassle for business and banks but it is necessary for many and it is still LEGAL TENDER.

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                    • At attention, Private.
                      There is a price to be paid if you choose cash as your king and not the plastic. In the long run cash wins especially when there’s a power cut.
                      Talking of money I think your ,military pension needs docking to make you understand not everything is about convenience.
                      Dismissed.

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                    • Don’t be a bloody moron Ronnie – absolutely EVERYTHING is about convenience these days. FFS you can put 40cents in the parking meter using your credit card!
                      People bitch about the price of a block of cheese but will pay twice the price to have it pre-grated.
                      What planet is your parade ground on?

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    • The snake heads in Geneva Switzerland are being called out :— particularly WEF.

      ….. “Everything evil in the world related to democide unfortunately comes from Geneva,” Najadi said.

      “You have WHO in Geneva, you have GAVI, then you have the WEF (the World Economic Forum), which my father was a co-founder and left Klaus Schwab out of disgust in the early eighty’s that has diplomatic immunity. …..
      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/evidence,10/cutting-head-snake-swiss-banker-pascal-najadi-calls/
      video at bottom 4 mins 45 secs : 20 October 2023

      It would seem that Najhadi may have the heft to more than unsettle them, particularly if he can gain wider support.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal_Najadi

      If he has some of the data, that can be verified, information, that can become evidence, then they will be onto something.
      May your health hold out & long may you live to complete that job Hajhadi. 🙂

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  4. Don’t need 1080 in Southland, they have a different bait down here. Driving from Balclutha to Gore on Saturday.
    1. A burnt out hoonish looking car on the side of the road.
    2. A Ute down a 30 metre gully that had rolled down.
    3. A rolled car bit crumpled on side of road.
    This is on about a 40 km stretch.

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  5. A cabbie is waiting outside a Vegas casino when a smartly-dressed man runs out in a state of extreme distress. He comes up to the cab and says “You’ve got to get me to the airport straight away! I’m needed in New York as soon as possible, there’s millions at stake!” and the cabbie says “Sure, no problem, fella, just fifty bucks for the fare and we’re good to go”.

    The smartly-dressed man says “This is awkward, but, I just lost my shirt in the casino and I haven’t a cent on me, just the clothes I’m standing up in and my airline ticket”, and the cabbie says “That’s a helluva sob story, friend, but I’m not seeing the fifty bucks here, know what I mean?”

    So after failing to win the cabbie over, the businessman begins to run for the airport, and by the merest good luck he manages to flag down a lift and he makes his flight with minutes to spare.

    Half a year later, with the business secure and some cash in his pocket, he heads back to Vegas for a little fun, and as he comes out of the casino he sees the cabbie at the rank behind a dozen or so other cars. So he goes to the first one and leans in through the window, and says “How much for a ride to the airport?” and the cabbie says “Fifty bucks, fella”, and the businessman says “And how much to stop on the way and give me a blow job?” and the cabbie tells him to fuck right off.

    So he goes to the next cab and once again asks “How much for a ride to the airport?” and then “And how much to stop on the way and give me a blow job?” and the second cabbie also tells him to fuck right off.

    After being rejected by all the other cab drivers, the businessman goes to the last one in the line and the cabbie chuckles and says “Hey, it’s you again!” and the businessman says “Yep. Fifty bucks to the airport, is it?” and the cabbie says “Sure, hop in”.

    And as they pull away past the line of cabs, the businessman leans out of the window and gives all the other drivers a big smile and both thumbs up …

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    • This is from the linked article.
      “It was no accident that the Russian invasion of Ukraine broke Covid resistance right down the middle, splintering it along old-fashioned fault lines.
      The Israel-Hamas “war” has already broken those two sides into two more. Collective action and independent thought have been banished to the shadow realm in favour of tribalism. People have been manipulated into abandoning an anti-globalist stance, choosing to staunchly defend the “good globalists” from the bad ones.
      It hasn’t just broken the alliance of anti-lockdown/anti-vaccine dissenters but has also broken their principles and discredited their opinions.
      Many – mostly on the conservative right – have forgotten that Israel was right at the forefront of the Covid lie, forgotten they were first to vaccinate and the first to use “green passes”, and have leapt to their defence (or, more accurately, jumped at the chance to push an anti-Islam agenda).
      They now push for collective punishment and – as mentioned above – cheer on the quashing of free speech for “terrorist sympathizers”.

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  6. How do we tell the difference between a) economic growth, and b) asset inflation due to money printing?

    What’s the gain when our wages double but the cost of everything we buy also doubles? (Never mind being in a higher tax bracket…)

    The bottom line: how many hours a week must one household work to support itself and two children? I am sure it was different in the 1970s.

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    • If you are going to compare a hypothetical 1970’s household with one functioning 50 years later you have to be fairly specific. How many cars? How many computers? How many kids?

      I’m sympathetic to your POV but life has changed so much in the past five decades that a glib answer will get blown out of the water.

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      • Cars and computers are far cheaper today than 50 years ago.
        Raising children when both parents must work is the real game-changer. The native NZ birth rate is below replacement level. (As is the case in most Western and Eastern nations.)
        Some would say that this is a good thing, but who is going to fund a large and growing population of retirees? (Immigrants get old, too.)

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        • i grew up through the 90s and we only had 1 vehicle for most of my childhood and even then it sat in the drive most of the time and we walked/biked everywhere local. we would take the car on grocery day and out of town trips, visiting grandparents or a shopping bag worth of groceries would be a walking trip. we were rather poor back then but from memory so were 95% of everyone else i went to school with life was much the same.

          now me and wifey have 4 vehicles even tho only 2 of us in the household drive, 90s we had sandpits, jungle gym and trees. nowdays kids have devices, tik tok and junk food to keep them occupied.

          who is going to fund retirement OS? either debt or itll eventually get scrapped entirely. i dont expect it to be there when/if i reach retirement.

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        • The middle class will not breed without a stable nest. The dearth of affordable owner occupied housing has ensured that the West’s best & brightest will not reproduce until late in life if at all.

          This will be the single greatest factor behind the collapse of society as we know it.

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          • baby farmers and other dole bludging scum have entered the chat…
            they seem to breed fine nasska, even if homeless, in a motel or getting beaten in a gang pad. that throws a spanner in your stable nest theory.
            from what i see many other ordinary kiwis just start breeding without any planning or thoughts of the repercussions then expect taxpayer to help them out.

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            • Try to elevate your thinking SB. Eg stop being a piece of shit.

              Ponzi players get billions in welfare. Ponzi players aren’t tax payers, like productive people as they don’t have to pay tax – because reasons.

              Baby farmers exist because of gutless simps.

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              • yawn…… ponzi, parasite, spruikerz arrrrrk

                seriously you and your lover nasska need to pull your heads outa your arses and get the fuck over your envy.
                its still possible to buy houses, sure its a bigger burden but still shits over paying stupid money to rent the same shitbox.

                cant remember who (maybe vikey?) hit the nail on the head a week or so back pointing out theres little to no basic entry level houses being built and tbh havent been built for a decade or so.
                that leaves first home buyers the limited options of…
                1. buying an overpriced ex state house.
                2. buying an overpriced mc mansion.
                3. buying an overpriced appartment.
                4. continue renting an overpriced shitbox

                theres also the problem of my dumbarse millenial generation wanting their dream/forever home as their first home, too snobby to live in a 50yr old house so they need a new build or less then 10yr old house.

                i dont know why all developments and now even the kianga ora state houses all need to be expensive fancy looking houses?
                wtf is wrong with a few basic transportable houses on a street?
                i understand land price can drive it a bit but most of the problem is with nimby covenants and gutless councils that dont want to force cheaper housing alternatives.

                how about covenants enforce things like those more basic entry level houses never be allowed to be rented out? only owner occupy.

                we need more entry level houding built in the right areas and not just segregated away from the pompas twats. then we need protections placed on them so they can fall prey to your ponzi parasite landlords.

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                • *and get the fuck over your envy.
                  Well said Stooppid. 👆
                  Pat yourself on the back.

                  *as they don’t have to pay tax.
                  This is why I laugh at you. 👆
                  You come out with the most ridiculous statements. Your credibility is -zero. You are a fool.

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                • No body here is envious of you, you conceited asshole. It is just that some of us can see beyond our own circumstances towards the bigger picture. You have a lot of growing and learning to do.

                  In regards to housing all I have ever called for is a free market. That’s it.

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          • The nimber of people renting hasn’t changed much % wise in 100 years. always hovers around 35%.
            Go back and read your post above and you will find some of the reason why they can’t nd I eaplaned it to you the other d as well.
            You are not a good learner at all.

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            • The percentage of people renting has risen considerably when compared with the 1970s when governments accepted that home ownership was for the greater good of society generally.

              What you failed to note is that although 65% of Kiwis own their own homes, as a percentage more of them are elderly. Of late those in their peak breeding years between 20 & 40 have fallen considerably.

              Refer. https://www.stats.govt.nz/assets/Uploads/Reports/Housing-in-Aotearoa-2020/Download-data/housing-in-aotearoa-2020.pdf Page 33

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              • They don’t give a shit nasska then they wonder why society is crumbling around them. Their whole live has been focused on “getting ahead”. Unaware that the only thing ahead of life is ☠️ death ☠️. That’s how important their perceived social status is to them.

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                • ……” Their whole live has been focused on “getting ahead” “….

                  It’s their “I’m alright Jack & fuck everyone else” attitude to the fore. They’re too thick to succeed in real business so gravitate to something they understand.

                  I despise them for their total lack of empathy.

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                    • Nasska. How many dollars did you give to your children so they could buy their first home?
                      Ex farmer and all..bludging off the taxpayer back then. Tell us all how much you chucked their way.
                      Hmmmm?
                      *I despise them…
                      Fuck you.

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                    • ……”How many dollars did you give to your children so they could buy their first home?”…….

                      Both of the girls married in the early 90s & were given the choice of a flash wedding or $10,000. Both took the money & it became part of their deposit on their first home. About $70,000 in today’s money. My son didn’t get hitched until ten years later & he got the same (inflation adjusted).

                      ……”Ex farmer and all..bludging off the taxpayer back then.”……

                      Never got a cent in subsidies. Roger Douglas had wiped everything by the time I made it onto my own property.

                      ……”*I despise them…Fuck you.”…….

                      Don’t take it negatively. Use the opportunity to shift your investments into brothels or narcotics & move up the ladder of respectability.

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                    • 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥Owwwwwwwww the burn Mikey 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

                      That’s what happens when you are selfish and tell lies. Learn from it 🙂

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              • In the 70s you could capitalise on the family benefit for a mortgage from the State Advances Co-Op, now they have far more incentives to fund their children. In the 70s it was 15 shillings a week!!!! YIKES how did anyone manage at all????? but it does seem that life has changed and not for the better either. the 15 shillings for each child was given to the mother or capitalised the mortgage, I don’t remember if that could be increased for each child.

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                • If my memory serves me correctly families could capitalise the Family Benefit for two kids. There were restrictions on State Advances mortgages. Instance they could only be used to build, not buy an existing home so the money went to increasing the nation’s housing stock. It was also a one off in that you couldn’t sell the house & start again.

                  At Chez Nasska we tend to do things the hard way so our first home was funded by a building society ballot mortgage & a solicitor’s second mortgage that bled us white for the first few years.

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    • “How do we tell the difference between a) economic growth, and b) asset inflation due to money printing?”

      A clue is when house prices increase 40% in 18 months while productivity falls through the floor to historic lows.

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    • How do we tell the difference between a) economic growth, and b) asset inflation due to money printing?

      The natural state of an economy where NO money is printed, and taxes are kept low, is deflation, where things keep getting cheaper. Economic growth makes things cheaper by automation, efficiencies created through competition, and expanded production in an expanding (hopefully slowly) population.

      In that scenario, you would see, smaller and smaller denominations, as used to exist in Britain, the halfpenny (1/2 penny) , the farthing (1/4), the quarter farthing (1/16).

      In NZ, the smallest coin is 5c, approx 80 times the value of the quarter farthing (1967 static exchange rate)

      By now, we should be enjoying 1/5 cent, 1/10 cent, 1/20 cent, 1/50 cent etc. But govt’s can’t resist printing money.

      We look at other countries, where the wages are “low” and say “slave labour”, but what we don’t realise is that the cost of living in real terms in those countries is a lot lower. And we get so one-eyed in that we believe because they don’t have a F & P washing machine or dishwasher, or an 80″ TV they must be poor.

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    • totalitarianism has always been the lefts go too agenda, socialism, communism, fascism all leftist constructs the nazi party was originally a Green movement, always dumbasses trying to gain CONTROL over the rest of the population, really they are just a bunch of control freaks tryin to shove there dicks in yer ass

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      • Sorry Dylan, but I have to disagree. The traditional Left not only stood for the liberty values of free speech and free assembly etc, but early socialism also gave us state funded (i.e. from our taxes) free healthcare, education, superannuation etc and help to those who were in genuine need. All good and IMHO worthy ideals in a decent society. These are probably the values to which Curious was referring.

        The problem is that Leftism has grown out of control and the socialist state has morphed into a hydra headed totalitarian monster which has literally invaded our lives on every level. But originally the Left stood for very different and in most cases very worthwhile values.

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        • Euro, I appreciate your sentiment, but values and principles are quite different.

          Principle: “A fundamental truth or proposition that serves as the foundation for a system of belief or behaviour or for a chain of reasoning.”

          Values: “The regard that something is held to deserve; the importance, worth, or usefulness of something.”

          Value are not intrinsically tied to any underlying principle or part of a chain of reasoning derived from that truth. A person may hold values AND principles, but values by themselves have no moral compass. Principles are objective. Values are subjective.

          A very vast difference. Values, not tied to underlying principles, allow Socialism and Marxism to infiltrate.

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          • SA:– Now do not talk of such things again. 🙂

            Like of course you can vote.
            You can vote once, then you will be lucky to ever vote again.
            In practice by Hamas & Fatah so they can really have a “Free Palestine, From the River to the Sea.”

            That way all that humanitarian aid can flow to & through them as a legitimate de-colonializing government. 🙁

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          • the left never supported free speech.
            go back in our history and they always had henchmen to keep you in line. wharfies, unions, and more. some of the most evil of them were lefties. Walsh about as eveil as you could get, Savage, who never allowed free speech from his dumbed down colleges and a lots more. all lefties.

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  7. Two guys are chatting in their hospital beds;

    “What are you in for?” said the first,

    “Camera down the throat” the other replied,

    “Oh, endoscopy?” the first man asked,

    “Yes” he said “Checking for stomach cancer. What about you?”

    “Camera up the arse” he said,

    “Oh, colonoscopy, checking for bowel cancer?” quizzed the second man,

    “No, my neighbour was sunbathing & my wife caught me taking a photo.”

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  8. This thread in HYS: https://ysb.co.nz/have-your-say-1643/#comment-362345

    In this country forget going after Pfizer, the manufacturer. They will wind legal action into a knot for years, and by the time it is unraveled the company will be nothing more than a shell. And the investors will be on a beach in a country with no extradition treaty earning 20%.

    You go after the dealer, the pusher. They said it was safe and effective, and marketed it as such using Billions upon Billions of NZ dollars. And they mandated it. Additionally since the vaccine deals and administration bypassed Pharmac and was under direct deals with the govt, and indeed the PM’s office, the dealers, the pushers are the likes of Ardern, Hipkins, Bloomfield (the 3 Stooges), aided and abetted by, Baker, Wiles, Verrall, Hendy et all.

    You don’t need a high powered billion dollar legal team to take on Pfizer. You just need a criminal barrister that has read and understands the Crimes Act, that can take on the 3 Stooges. Private prosecutions are rare, but still exist. And any judge or govt dept that stands in the way of justice should also be taken to court for obstructing justice. And also any democide deniers, like Luxon and Seymour.

    It will most likely be slapped down, and not allowed to be filed, however, given the extent of vaccine excess deaths, and vaccine injuries, there will be some judges left that would want it to go to court. The key is getting enough public pressure, and more widespread publication of existing OIA requests, amongst many other things.

    We have to stop running away from Tyranny and instead run towards a future just society. To do that you have to believe and want it to be so. If you don’t believe a future just society is possible, and therefore not worth fighting for, perhaps you should take the blue pill, join the Labour Party, and be content with a mundane existence where the highlight of the week is watching mindless TV, becoming a Dr Who’s Cyberman, talking crap, and drinking yourself stupid so you do not have to confront reality.

    On the other hand you could join up to a VFF group, if you haven’t already, and subscribe to Reality Check Radio. More importantly, get your friends and family on board as well.

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    • Spot on. If there’s serious risk to the company or its directors waiting in the wings Pfizer will be gutted leaving the vaccine damaged to sue the asset stripped shell.

      NZ’s justice system is incapable of beating overseas corporates.

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      • NZ’s justice system is incapable of beating overseas corporates.

        Agreed, Naska.

        And once the path of pursuing Pfizer hits a dead end, then going after the NZ stooges, will be seen as vexatious litigation.

        Besides, the criminal court systems in most if not all countries, don’t allow you to go after a new murderer after the court action litigation against the original accused fails.

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    • I suggest that most of the actions taken against Pfizzer will be in the US. A couple of class actions will clean them out. It would be good to see any actions include the board and management team. Time will tell but I certainly wouldn’t be holding Pfizzer stock.

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      • “And they mandated it. Additionally since the vaccine deals and administration bypassed Pharmac and was under direct deals with the govt, and indeed the PM’s office, the dealers, the pushers are the likes of Ardern, Hipkins, Bloomfield (the 3 Stooges), aided and abetted by, Baker, Wiles, Verrall, Hendy et all.”

        Right there. Haul that lot in. Show No Mercy.

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  9. Looking at NZ media there is zero mention in the headlines that Israel is now under bombardment on two fronts with pressure in the middle from the West Bank. Lebanon is attacking from the North and are a serious military threat. Hamas are attacking the South continuously and haven’t stopped since the initial attack.

    But all we hear about is Israel defending itself from Jacinda Ardern’s “us”. Lets hear the Christchurch mosque make a public announcement of their view of this…. Yeah right !!!

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    • Gaza Greta? Gretaza? Gazzetta? Ignorant commie shill child.

      It was the those left climate shills in Israel that lowered the guard, the standards.
      The protest of selection of Israeli Supreme Court Judges protests, seem similar to BLM protests.
      Court cases on PM Benjamin Netanyahu finances seem similar to the ones on Trump.

      The kindly increase of work visa’s for Gazans, & probably easing up on controls of more of that “humanitarian aid”

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    • One only has to look at the recent photos of dead young women, lying in blood with their eyes still open, to know that the men who shot them are not the good guys.
      I don’t recall photos or videos of the Israeli soldiers shooting defenseless non-combatant civilians in the back.

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      • Any soldier shooting woman and children should be executed immediately. Doesn’t matter whose side they are on. The current mess in Israel/Gaza is a very sad indictment on humanity. And as for the truth on what is going on there, who knows with all the blatant propaganda from both sides.

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  10. Bloody charlatans.

    Auckland floods: MetService admits its weather forecasting models were ‘poor’

    “Performance of all available weather models in the lead-up to the Auckland Anniversary storm was poor,” the agency said in an internal review of the event, which has not been publicly released until now.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-floods-metservice-admits-its-weather-forecasting-models-were-poor/CQAXHKVNGNADHCGEO6NR3OUNWU/

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    • Note the system is trying to drag in RSV, so that will included in a mandated vaxx for all.
      Using think of the babies that are hospitalized etc..
      https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/european-commission-approves-pfizers-abrysvotm-help-protect

      Just like in NZ one can not have just an only tetanus vaccine for even an adult.
      To include diphtheria & whooping cough pertussis with tetanus, into a 3 in 1 combo, then whatever adjuvants to make that mixture work. No real explanation, in what may have been changed.
      Not only public health, but my own Doctor expects you to take it for the sake of “your grand children” community.
      Certainly does not seem to be for my own good.

      It seems that those other vaccines do not work, so just how “leaky” are they?
      It seems those child vaxxes are not working , (admitting) nor preventing the community who are vaxxed, from catching these diseases,

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      • A friend was coerced into the pertussis vax recently so she could be at the birth of a grandchild. What the medical profession didn’t say is that it actually makes it more likely that she would infect the new grandchild as the vax in not sterilising but just reduces the symptoms somewhat making it less likely for her to know that she was infected.

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        • And if that friend actually did have a heavy cold, & or feel out of sorts, she would also willingly have forgone witnessing the birth, & visiting afterwards if she had dubious symptoms.

          Some where I saw an impassioned speech very recently from one of those “opposing mps” in the EU quoting statistics & %’s and chances of catching RSV and the very infinitesimal odds of a child having major issues with RSV
          Sorry I cannot find that link now or most likely google shadow banning.

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    • Brtaybvots @1058

      Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on ME’ does come to mind, yet even despite all the negative results, there are STILL those who will quite willingly be ‘fooled’ multiple times (And then get very upset when the vaxxine causes them injury).

      Thank you.

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  11. HOW NZ GOVERNMENT POLICY CAME TO BE DOMINATED BY ADVISERS WHO SOUGHT TO LEGITIMISE RISKY BIOTECH EXPERIMENTATION
    https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/opinion/how-nz-government-policy-came-to-be-dominated-by-advisers-who-sought-to-legitimise-risky-biotech-experimentation/

    As we have reported, according to an OIA recently released, and one corroborating OIA from a year ago, vaccine exemptions could have affected as many as 11,005 employees and contractors within the health service. A lot of detail is missing, but one thing is absolutely clear: the government sought to hide and obfuscate what was happening.

    ~~~
    The Daily Telegraph spreads the word.
    LIZ GUNN: NZ ‘IS A CRIME SCENE’ – WHISTLEBLOWER INFO LEADS TO CALL FOR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO COVID JAB
    https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/liz-gunn-nz-is-a-crime-scene-whistleblower-info-leads-to-call-for-criminal-investigation-into-covid-jab/

    IN A VIDEO RELEASED ON SOCIAL MEDIA LAST NIGHT NZ LOYAL PARTY LEADER LIZ GUNN SAID SHE HAS SEEN INFORMATION PROVIDED TO HER BY A WHISTLEBLOWER ON HARMS DONE BY THE PFIZER MRNA GENE THERAPY THAT WOULD SHOCK NEW ZEALANDERS.

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    • It more than remains to be seen if Liz Gunn gets her ducks lined up in a row.
      To bring data, information, that can be shown as facts, to with stand the challenge of being evidence.
      If any is true, it will be a difficult challenge to bring forward & fully reveal.

      As damming it as it seems, the NZ system has to look, but as we know, supposedly the batch numbers, & so the traceability has become much more difficult to follow.
      Though to me that is a major point of the New Zealand accomplices, in shirking their responsibilities of duty of care.
      And where is their so called “abundance of caution”?

      As we can see here, it is major work to expose & be a whistle blower.
      Not a job for the faint hearted, or be taken lightly, or used for your own advantage.

      Like when Daniel Ellsberg did some discreet photocopying and then to the difficulty of releasing it, so it would shown up, in exposing the “Pentagon Papers” on the Vietnam war.

      Like in the USA how the Hunter Biden’s lap-top was minimized, and is still being kept shut down, in particular the connections to Joe Biden.

      In some ways, it is the many small movements, though may be dammed by others, attacked by media, coordinated by dis mis mal information government resources, that on a broad front, become more difficult to contain, and difficult to keep on “whacking a mole”.

      Just a glimmer of light, where others may see something even more deeper, feel motivated to come forward, is what a government & any accomplices can not afford at all $costs.

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  12. Golds uppity up trendsetters.
    Taking a slight breather, good time to get in.

    “Domestic gold prices rose to a record high of 34,100 baht per baht weight on Thursday, up 300 baht from a day earlier, as the intensity of the Israel-Hamas conflict has driven up demand for the safe-haven asset, says the Gold Traders Association (GTA).
    The association announced on Thursday the sales price for domestic 96.5% gold jewellery was 34,100 baht per baht weight as the spot gold price was US$1,949 per ounce.”

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        • Yes it is a sign people think things are turning to shit. But the fact you predicted it increasing makes me wonder if it will. Given your 100% failure rate on every single prediction.

          BTW over the last 5 years Ed’d Bitcoin has massively out performed most things. Though you can’t get a loan and not pay tax, to buy them.

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          • *Given your 100% failure rate on every single prediction.*
            Off the top of my head..
            The last OCR change.
            I said it wasn’t going to be raised.
            It wasn’t raised.
            You’ll have that on record.
            Don’t you look silly. Who’s the liar!!! 😂😂😂

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            • You said interests rates would not go up as a result. They went about 3 or 4 times after that – I lost count to be honest.

              Why do you lie? Why not just admit the truth and be done with it? You can still make money and do deals without lying all the time.

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              • How to Outsmart Property Spruikers. We’ve Got Your Back!

                I recently read a financial planner’s tips on how to outsmart the property spruikers. It had a lot of what to do but not “how” to do it. For example, “Become educated”. “Research an area”. “Seek independent advice”. “Find what impediments there have been to a future buyer”. “Learn how to negotiate”. “Don’t get emotional”.

                ://www.propertyclub.com.au/outsmart-property-spruikers-we-have-got-your-back/

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    • im selling some hunty, you can exchange some of your so called parasite money for several ounces of beautiful raw alluvial gold 🙂
      i lost track of my gold stash, had a round up on saturday and was suprised to learn i had 5oz more then i thought… bonus!!!!

      golds due for a bull run and almost all the ducks are in a row. i rekon itll be 2100usd by jan/feb. with nzs weakening dollar we will end up getting close to 4k per oz here.

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  13. They’re going to ramp up the gun law shit again.

    A University of Canterbury student has been arrested after guns and ammunition were allegedly found in their room in Christchurch.

    A police spokesperson said officers were called to an address in Ilam on Thursday after a person made comments suggesting they intended to self-harm.

    The spokesperson said officers found “ammunition and weapons” at the property, which were seized.

    A 20-year-old man was arrested at the property and transported to hospital to be assessed for treatment.

    The Press reports the student was arrested at Tupuānuku student hall and had pro-gun views, including opposing law reforms made following the March 15 terror attack in Christchurch.

    A person told The Press the company that runs the hall, Unilodge, wanted to keep the arrest “hush hush” as possible, leaving other RAs “in the dark”.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/10/university-of-canterbury-student-arrested-in-halls-after-ammunition-and-weapons-found-in-room.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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    • This person wasn’t adhering to the current gun laws. That’s the thing about laws – only law-abiding people are affected by them. You can make any laws you want and it makes no difference to criminals. Just punishes everyone else.

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    • So an unlicensed character. so needing more rules for gun licensing.

      … unlawful possession of firearms/restricted weapons ….

      Does that person have a car or motorcycle license?
      Has that person access to a car?

      Many people have died in New Zealand, due to cars, motorcycles even if they are registered, wof, & the driver is licensed.
      Even on this weekend !
      An extremely dangerous weapon, when it is weaponized.

      It used to be that people classified as misusing their brain by Nobel Prize winners were simply lobotomized.
      I am starting to figure the real issue was with who did the “classification”.
      “Physician, first heal thyself”

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          • If you have a gun licence, then I understand that legitimizes that police can enter so as to check the security system you have, the guns, bolts, & ammunition.
            Could be any day, or hour that suits them.

            The Objective Of The ‘Police State’ Movie ; interview.
            https://youtu.be/5Ub78ybRz2Y
            4 mins 25 secs : October 23 2023 : Dinesh D’Souza

            The ‘Police State’ movie is a call to action for patriotic Americans to take political action to roll back our police state.

            Police State Trailer | New Dinesh D’Souza Movie
            https://youtu.be/VrbP1rJQ7DE
            3 mins 16 secs : Oct 3rd 2023 : Dinesh D’Souza trailer.

            “Government is not the solution to our problems. Government IS the problem!” ~Ronald Reagan

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            • AReally?

              I have a gun license and several guns. The police (usually a retired police officer) comes by once every five years to check that the guns and ammunition are securely locked.

              The last time the same officer showed up and just asked if the guns were in the same place as the last time he visited. I said “yes” and he was happy and left without checking. The fact that the guns are in an almost impenetrable shed with rebar behind the windows and a steel door with three locks and I’m 75 years old might have been the reason he didn’t bother to check.

              When I needed one of the guns to despatch a possum it took me more than five minutes to get the gun and ammo. By this time the wife and the possum were on a first name basis. But ungratefully, he almost landed on her on the way down.

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  14. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    This article is about the outdated race concept. For the peoples of the Caucasus Mountains, see Peoples of the Caucasus. For the US racial classification “White” or “Caucasian”, see White Americans.

    The Caucasian race (also Caucasoid,[a] Europid, or Europoid)[2] is an obsolete racial classification of humans based on a now-disproven theory of biological race

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race

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  15. Kirsten Murfitt
    @MurfittTauranga
    I came across this information in the Parliamentary Debates dated 26 July 2023. I will be requesting a copy of the report in my latest Open Letter that I am drafting. Taxpayer funded reports should be freely available to the public rather than protecting politicians.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9F8t7gbsAAqs12?format=png&name=small

    Link below pg 27.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9F8t7gbsAAqs12?format=png&name=small

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    • It is uncanny.
      Never an X files fan, though I did see some episodes.

      Reminds of even earlier controls of a British 1960’s short film, when the new tv news producer found out he was to be controlled through an explosive package inserted into him during an earlier operation.

      Which is why a full & thorough forensic Inquiry is needed, to see who had ignored the duties of their jobs.
      When they were at least expected to do their job, so the tired excuse of they did not know is shot dead.

      The techno-bureaucracy are expected to know & to find out more.
      The smart arse politicians job is to ask the common sense right questions.
      Not only they did not, but became greedy, unprincipled, seeking more controls to keep power.

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      • That British 1960’s short film.
        The early first step of figuring the control of the news.

        The News-Benders 1968
        https://youtu.be/xYAke_z3RVU
        28 mins :

        Actor Donald Pleasance.

        “the calmness of the guy. He’s walking a fine line of smug without being condescending, reassuring with the hint of terrifying and an upbeat tone with underscored helplessness” as also played to set up us up to take the vaxx.

        Now it is become so hard to discern the difference in scenes of that film to recent ones that came out of Gaza.

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    • Every living thing has a morphic field. Mix one field with another and you can get genetic modification. The science isn’t perfect but results are being obtain up to 50% of the time. What is produced then reproduces true to type. I will write about it at a later date.

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  16. The Guardian is losing their mind over Javier Milei becoming Argentina’s next President.
    Must be a good chap then.

    ‘Bad and dangerous’: Argentina’s Trump on track to become president

    At his final campaign event in Buenos Aires on Wednesday, the 53-year-old “anarcho-capitalist” addressed a packed 15,000-capacity stadium from a stage adorned with a banner proclaiming him “The Only Solution” to Argentina’s economic malaise.

    “Whatever it takes, we have to win on Sunday,” bellowed Milei. “It’s going to be the first fucking round! Round fucking one!”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/22/argentina-javier-milei-presidential-election

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  17. Authorities have warned children on Halloween not to walk around Mt Roskill wearing a bed sheet with a slit to see through.

    Police say they want to avoid last year’s incidents of 56 rapes & 24 forced marriages.

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    • Agreed something is not right.
      The other part is that guy. What is his politics?
      A useful idiot? maybe? to that seems to want to spread blame?
      Sure things need to be looked at, and fast with cool heads to account for what was done wrong.
      Have the Israeli Defence Force come up with a good plan? Are they capable. Has it been sorted with the politicians.

      Incompetence, as the IDF has not had much to do.
      Infiltration of wokism into IDF, and a complacency of support from leftists.
      So who gets to be promoted? & their ‘kind’ protocols put into play.
      Just figure the big protests against Benjamin Netanyahu.
      While Israel jabbed themselves up the wazzoo for their collective good.

      After all everything looked good, as a big increase of work visas so Palestinians and more border gates too,
      So the reciprocal calling in of arms, but bear in mind only 2% of Israelis have a gun licence.
      The fear of the armoury being seized would be another reason for removing guns & ammo, but would that be true;
      Another kibbutz security leader roused her team, had them armed, despite protocols, & positioned so them that successfully repelled the raiders.

      With the sheer number of rockets going over so many parts, that overwhelmed iron dome.
      A helicopter, and the possible man-pad that would have taken it out. Who knows?
      Who was the biggest enemy, that if IDF moved south so quickly would have been Hezbollah which also was firing its missiles. Israel’s greatest risk, from the north and they would be even worse to push out of northern Israel.

      Hamas security knows what it takes to keep things on the downlow.
      Like how many years did it take figure where Osama bin Laden was put in the top 10 terrorist list in 1999.
      Twin Towers occurred in 2001, and bombing Afghanistan started, & the invasion.
      Also to consider the systems that Osama bin Laden used, or rather what he did not use, until his death, ten years later in 2011.
      It only seems be tracked by confessions of the possible hold out in Pakistan, & in the meantime quite a few dud leads, that may have even been dummies.
      This is what would be built into the planning of Hamas security over what now seems 2 years.

      Then it is Biden that is chasing after Netanyahu. Even Zelinskii wanted to travel their to show support.
      Biden’s crew would be pushing for only for reciprocal proportionate push back, & be considerate of the civilians, as the USA have done since the 1960’s.

      The preemptive strike by Israel in 1967 6 day wars onto Egypt, Syria & Jordan, as they amassed troops onto the border, plus reinforced in air power by Libya, Morocco, Algeria, Kuwait & Saudi Arabia, & some of them moved more military up into into Jordan & Syria,
      A win but the that meant the Israel that took the opprobrium for winning, knew they would lose a lot of support when they knew Egypt & Syria with Soviet support was going on the attack in the 1973, but had to wait, that became close run.
      However Israel was regaining the upper hand, by the time USA military aid arrived.
      Of course the USA then told Israel to let the Egyptian army go so 19 days of war.

      Israel seems to believe it can gain peace, as it is well aware, that it only has to lose 1 war & its finished.! So it has tried to make deals, & then to reach around to try & enforce them.
      The rest of the Islamic world, guided by Mohammad to have hudnas, negotiate for peace, whatever you call it, then strike again is the duty, and noticeable history of.

      Golda Meir Israeli Prime Minister
      When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons.
      Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.

      2006 Knesset Chairman Benjamin Netanyahu said during a speech that :—
      “if the Arabs lay down their arms there will be no more war,
      but if Israel lays down its weapons there would be no more Israel.”
      & earlier Golda Meir 1957 :— ditto … a massacre.

      Enough as this is not going to sort the issues, what ever plays out.

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  18. Dissension for Maoris to weigh up.
    A press release? a “public statement”

    23rd October circa [9:00am] … Even after the evidence and statements have been released, Te Pāti Māori still maintains its false claims. Their irresponsible actions have spread misinformation, incited ill-feeling against Jewish communities who have been targeted and intimidated, and their families and livelihoods endangered.

    We, as Maori leaders, do not support the views of Te Pāti Māori and co-leader Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. …..

    …… We call on the media to correct the false claim. ….
    https://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/maori-leaders-respond-to-te-pati-maori-co-leader-debbie-ngarewa-packer/2359/

    Not a word in google news, from any NZ mainstream media at the moment.
    Will it be front page news tomorrow? or back page?
    Will there be some hissing & spitting if it is reported, by offender herself, or other supporters.
    Popcorn time.

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