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  1. Yes Greens etc – leave us alone.
    We should not be paying any carbon tax credits
    And leave our farmers alone.

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    • How anyone can drive through the country side and say that it is polluting the planet, rather that the filthy crowded cities full of consumers, is beyond belief.

      Cities are destroying the planet. Not farms. Cities are consumers and farms are producers. You can figure out for yourself who needs who the most.

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  2. Would you like to see regular political polls?
    Eg every 2 months on a certain day of the month
    Or are you happy with the “at random” or at the medias whim situation?

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        • I don’t disagree Sooty, it’s a terrible government.

          But the result is correct under our electoral system. It’s a shitty system that means a cobbled together coalition can get more seats in parliament than a party with a lot of public support. It’s a shitty system that means a single individual can effectively decide who becomes the government, ignoring the votes of all of New Zealand. (Thank you again Chuck!)

          As to the polls? They have inherent flaws we’re all aware of. Phone / online options, the self-selection bias due to communication technology, etc. And yeah, there are some adjustments and margins of error … but they’re all still just noise.

          At the end of the day, darling down-ticker, when the votes are counted and the negotiations have happened then we know what the result is. Up until that poll all you’re seeing is what the media wants you to see.

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              • Neither was me, but maybe you deserved a downtick or two for channeling the drunken dwarf.
                How many times has WP trotted out the ‘only poll that counts’ line?

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                • Lol, I had no idea! But I was actually talking about the two potential NZ First voters – being good old Chuck (Who’ll never live down voting for them and giving us the COL) and DigNap15’s neighbour.

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      • I believe we should remove the voting age altogether and replace it with taxation qualification.

        Given that the basis of democracy is so often framed as ‘no taxation without representation’ – I believe it’s only fair to give effect to that in reality.

        I propose that only net tax contributors can vote. If a child is working at 14 and paying tax, then good oh – I welcome them taking part in the democratic process. On the other hand if a 40 year old person has spent all their life on the dole and has never paid tax, I see no rational basis for them to have earned the right to representation

        We need to get serious about the social contract that underpins the welfare state, it would not be hard to work out whether a person has received more benefits than they have paid in taxes.

        Government is firstly, secondly and lastly about decisions on how to spend the money raised in taxes. If you are not contributing I see no reason why you should have say in how other peoples contributions are disbursed.

        Now that would be open and transparent and really representative.

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        • Government is firstly, secondly and lastly about decisions on how to spend the money raised in taxes. If you are not contributing I see no reason why you should have say in how other peoples contributions are disbursed.

          How the mighty have fallen.

          Government is about maintaining law and order, public policy, public infrastructure, foreign policy and our military defense against foreign invaders. Those things need taxes, yes.

          The problem is government has become about kapa haka, basket weaving, feeding everybody, making sure the kid down the road has a bandaid, that my dog gets walked twice a day, that my kids don’t have sugary drinks. It’s become an overburdened amalgamation of random policies. Stop that, prevent it from growing and keep government out of the sandbox.

          Get rid of all that and we can be living in a fair democracy where every adult who lives in a nation gets to vote for how they want that nation to be. I don’t like discriminatory voting systems, such as a taxation based one. It’s for the people, by the people.

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    • She is not a dumb as she acts or talks or… ok she is that dumb BUT how many of us would have voted for the Green Taliban at that age probably most of us that is until we had to forge & pay for our own way in the real world, she is fighting for her place in the trough because who the fk would employ a POS like her after her never ending race baiting & thinly disguised hatred of our country, her choice of soyfriends like Guy Williams would be an instant red flag for me as well

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  3. Small children will be out marching today for something that is made up and will frighten them into believing they have 12 years left on earth at most, so they will be unable to function as normal adults in the future.. Yes, I said as adults in the future.

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    • I hope there are armed guards posted at every mosque around the country – just think what happened the last time hordes of schoolchildren were deployed on a Friday by Marxist teachers to create a smokescreen. As I recall it, the 15 of March also coincided with a time when the Coalition of Losers were suffering a steep downturn in approval ratings after the underhand way the UN Migration pact was signed up to.

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      • Are there any civil defence exercises scheduled today?
        Is there a convention in any major city of snipers?
        Have casting agencies been receiving enquiries for crisis actors to be shipped out to any major cities?

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    • Fortunately my cubs have hoisted a finger at their classmates and are studying today. They are not interested in wagging.

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    • I see that Labour and the duck hate been hoisted by their own petard!
      Labour hate been made dicks by the words tumbling out of their own mouths been repeated!
      Complaint made by Labour list mp kieran McNutty was up held by the duck!
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      He is labour list from Masterton. If you have never heard of him before, it’s not suprising!

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  4. The day some one can provide absolute proof that CO2 increases precede temperature increases and not as the empirical evidence shows –CO2 increases follow temperature increases, is the day I might take it all seriously.

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    • I agree with you Ross, I have seen many charts going back thousands and millions of years and there is no correlation between CO2 and temperature.
      This is what we have got to get across to the Climate Change Zealots (now led by Prince Harry!)

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      • DN
        There is a sort of correlation but the cycle is about 800 years. Most of the CO2 is in the oceans and it takes an increase in sea temperature for it to be released and hence increase the CO2 level.

        I find it absolutely frustrating that this very fundamental fact has been buried. It should stop the nonsense in its tracks but as always follow the money –it is a trillion dollar a year industry now.

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        • The problem is they use this weasel way to refute this argument

          ” In the case of warming, the lag between temperature and CO2 is explained as follows: as ocean temperatures rise, oceans release CO2 into the atmosphere. In turn, this release amplifies the warming trend, leading to yet more CO2 being released. In other words, increasing CO2 levels become both the cause and effect of further warming. ”

          https://skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature.htm

          However, there should then be a runaway warming which does not occur, although they bring in some other limiting factor to prevent this.

          Read the comments below the article where people challenge the idea to get an idea of how complicated this is.

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          • I do not think it is that complicated.
            Maybe SS can explain why following the super El Nino in 2015/16 the global temps have dropped 0.4C while we have increases in CO2 over that time period. ( in the last hundred years the average temp has only increase about 0.8C according to NASA Goddard Institute).

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      • Another perspective.
        In 2010 they reported that CO2 from human activity put 9 giga tonnes into the atmosphere.
        The oceans were responsible for 90-100 giga tonnes and rotting vegetation etc. 50-60 giga tonnes.
        So human activity levels are within the margin of error of the other two contributors.

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      • Yet there is yet to a reliable survey or chart for CO2 uptake? Suspect if there is ever any real serious CO2 reduction in NZ it will be noticed most in the browning of so much current greenery.

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  5. I have rephrased my post above so you can answer with an uptick or a down tick

    Would you like to see regular political polls?
    Eg every 2 months on a certain day of the month

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    • Do you mean 2 montly polls on YSB? Or are you lobbying for the “professional” polling companies to hold actual polling they already know will be negative toward the COL?

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    • Nope they are all rubbish & easily manipulated then there is the usual chorus of this poll is a Labour or Nat one, who did they survey landlines cell phones blah blah blah and if they show one side well ahead it can easily make a swing voter or even a committed right winger say why bother it’s a done deal etc & we need those voters if we are to see the end of these socialist scum

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  6. Maybe if you didn’t shack up with everybody and got to know somebody first you’d not be a solo mother on the benefit wanting to collect more benefits while living with somebody?

    We need to go back to a safety net of welfare, not a lifestyle of welfare.

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    • Is this woman saying she forces her children to live with any fly-by-night stray she starts sleeping with before she knows him properly?
      What kind of life do the kids have with new ‘dads’ turning up for six week blocks before a relationship breakdown gets him moved out again?
      Good grief.

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  7. That graphic is an outrage! It is hate-speech, islamophobic, rayyyysshhhissst and transphobic. It’s an utter abomination and it’s a disgraceful disrespecting of the poor victims of Voldemort’s shooting of 50 innocents in Christchurch. As any good feminist knows feels, facts are merely a social construct invented by the pale, stale patriarchy to oppress society. Just because China and India can afford to send missions to the moon it is an appalling attack on humanity to suggest that they are no longer developing nations milking the stupidity of brain-washed chardonnay socialists to suppress western economies and allow Sino/Indian expansionism through burning coal.

    I am now going to put on my pussy hat and screech at the top of my lungs to show upset I am about how that graphic steals the future of autistic children.

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  8. Coincidence or not?

    Last year a highly promoted paper was published in Nature warning us that the oceans were heating much faster than had been predicted.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-oceans-are-heating-up-faster-than-expected/

    Within a couple of hours of publication mathematician Nic Lewis had shown the paper was seriously flawed.

    It has taken nearly 1 year for Nature to retract the paper…
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0651-8

    The paper was retracted on the day that the IPCC published its Special Report on the Ocean and Cryosphere in a Changing Climate
    https://www.ipcc.ch/srocc/home/

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  9. Dimes been flat out this week so only catching up on blogs now.

    The Trump phone call is hilarious. The spin from the hack media is just amazing to watch.

    I do wonder what the hell is going on with DPF. Does the man not check multiple sources? To outright trust places like the Washington post is downright silly.

    Or is he doing his little bit to make sure a Trump type figure never emerges in our politics?

    I sort of understand being a globalist when you’re in NZ. this tiny trading nation.

    But the long game for globalisation will not work out well for our kids.

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  10. Morning fellow deplorables yes i missed you all as well lol, was given an opportunity to go watch some footy so haven’t been interested in keeping up with the on-going clusterfk that is masquerading as our Govt, i did manage to see the mad queen meeting with Trump though nice of her to wear her MAGA outfit for the occasion, is she unwell ? she looked more haggard and scrawny than usual i guess thats what being a rapist protecting compulsive lying socialist piece of filth will do to you, any YSB goss i need to catch up on i need something to distract me from the mountain of work i have to catch up on

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    • Oh you are such a red neck wastrel. All that Co2 you burnt in you pursuit of your simple pleasures. Shame on you. Didn’t you see we are all being blamed for yoofs imminent demise

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      • Red neck wastrel you know me so well Ed, if i felt any guilt Ha Ha Ha it would have been rapidly offset by watching the climate cults special ed poster child Chunderburg having a wee tanty at the UN i was waiting for someone to put the weird wee thing over their knee for a damn good spanking (normal spanking not the Labour Party pervy type) what a bloody farce that entire thing was, her smug & now very rich parents need a damn good slapping or jail time for what they have done to her all for the great climate cult & their UN masters, on a brighter note the weather here in Invers is bloody awful enjoy your day off school kiddies

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    • Comedy gold in the first one’s replies;

      “Lucky children of Venezuela. Already liberated from capitalism”

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  11. Use the words, vibrant, sustainable , eco-friendly, inclusive, diversity, authenticity etc., etc..

    https://mumbrella.com.au/abc-iview-to-premiere-worlds-first-hijabi-comedy-series-halal-gurls-599524?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=feedpress.me&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mumbrella

    “Halal Gurls | Trailer”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=85&v=_KAV3_Ke2fc
    1 minute 36 secs
    Is this a golly Golriz world in Australia?

    With all the taxpayers money, and government channels, how long will this last?

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  12. And yesterday the UPU gave into the US demands that they charge more for China shipping goods into western countries.
    It was (and is) cheaper to send a parcel from China to the USA than from the USA to the USA!
    MAGA

    If the UPU had not given in the USA was going to leave it!

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    • The best thing I saw was when they asked her a few questions, she could not answer even one!
      She had been just reading from a script
      Terrible misuse of an unfortunate child.

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    • Do you really need to ask Rachel a bit of word bingo might be necessary if she does – Brave, Fearless, Passionate, uncompromising you know the usual Z grade comms bollocks she blithers at every opportunity

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    • Once were warriors bro (insert mongrel mob chant)
      “Can you imagine any of you living in a home in which you see your mother receiving violence on a daily basis?”
      why yes i can not every day but enough due to a violent alcoholic stepfather & as yet i haven’t slaughtered any pregnant women
      Why the fk do these girls let these animals into their lives do they see a nice house with a white picket fence in their future or is it easy access to drugs booze & cash and the thrill of dating a bad boy, stuffed if i will ever understand their motives especially the ones already with kids

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    • Yet another feral lowlife violent scumbag maori. Wet bus ticket waiting because little andrew wants the prisons empty.” but he is such a good guy, so out of character”. Life goes on in aotearoa..cue next headline “Baby found beaten to death in Northland” .I have a severe dislike of maori and anything to do with maori.

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  13. To quote Pascal above

    Government is about maintaining law and order, public policy, public infrastructure, foreign policy and our military defense against foreign invaders. Those things need taxes, yes.

    Yes
    That is all governments should do.

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    • There is an expectation, I think, in New Zealand that government must provide a safety net and full medical care for everyone. I don’t think it should, I think charity and private insurance can cover those well but I’ve also realised that I’d be pushing shit uphill with a sieve to mix some metaphors trying to get that changed.

      But if they do, it should be a welfare safety net, not a lifestyle.

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      • Yes, if the goverment did do just the few things you stated in your proposal, then our taxes would greatly reduce, and we’d all have money to buy health and education and give money to charidy.
        (but please leave my super alone ha ha)

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    • 87 % No
      13 % Yes
      @ 1.52 pm

      But but,, this is the 21st century in the age of MMP,
      ‘Majority rules’ are so last century.

      This shows that the Yes vote has almost more than NZ 1st so therefore the 16 year olds can follow an ‘aspie’ Pied Piper and so can select who goes into government.

      A children’s crusade for freedom to slavery, and death in North Africa.
      Even the boats were supplied out of Italy.

      ….. bands of children marching to Italy, and children being sold into slavery. Many children were tricked by merchants and sailed over to what they thought were the holy lands but, in reality, were slave markets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Crusade

      and so history repeats.

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      • and so history repeats, in a rhyme.
        This century, no fear of slavery, or ‘work will set you free’ or being made an eunuch, and so the boats are arranged with “welcome refugee” ‘virtue signals’.

        All cultures are equal and so is welcomed as safer passage facilitated.

        The streets of El dorado paved with gold, of free health, education, accommodation and regular payments.

        Germany’s interior minister said in a report published on Saturday his country is prepared to take in a quarter of migrants rescued off the Italian coast as the European Union tries to find a solution to repeated standoffs involving humanitarian groups’ ships.

        The Italian news agency ANSA said Germany, France, and Italy were expected to take about 24 migrants each, while the other 10 would go to Portugal or Luxembourg. https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/italy-rescue-boat-82-migrants-dock-italian-isle-65609736

        So the “humanitarians” encourage, and never mind the cost, that will sink western civilization into a collective soup.

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  14. Trump impeachment: US President demands to know who provided information to whistleblowerhttps://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2019/09/trump-impeachment-us-president-demands-to-know-who-provided-information-to-whistleblower.html

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    • So she’s a child if you want to criticise her. Otherwise, she’s a climate expert that needs to be listened too.

      cool.

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  15. So now we know, there are only 170,000 idiots in New Zealand.
    Lets hope we can show them some logic and make them see how they have been duped.
    Thank goodness for Magic Talk and Peter Williams and Sean Plunket.

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  16. ‘I feel so sad’: National MP Judith Collins holds back tears in speech defending farmers
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/09/i-feel-so-sad-national-mp-judith-collins-holds-back-tears-in-speech-defending-farmers.html

    Collins said she is “concerned that we now have very severe cases of depression and mental health issues in the farming community that are significantly worse than they ever used to be”.

    Ministry of Justice figures at the end of last year revealed 20 farmers had taken their own lives in the year ending June 30, 2018 – 18 of them men.

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    • very sad, and yet very understandable.
      I have emailed all the green MPs and all the Labour Mps and told them to lay off our farmers.
      We need them
      They are still our backbone.
      I really despise the Greens

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  17. Does our Prime Minister actually know what she is doing?

    What a pitiful amateur.?

    This woman is delusional at a level never witnessed before by NZers.

    Oh, the shame.

    Sample comment:
    What’s the difference between jacinda Ardern and Greta Thunberg.?
    One’s a silly little girl , the other is swedish.

    NZ Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has called on the world to move away from “fierce nationalism” at the United Nations; the polar opposite of what US President Donald Trump called for at the same New York summit.

    “Jacinda Ardern calls for end to ‘fierce nationalism’

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkFLfeVSaYc

    Just look at the comments?‍♂️??

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  18. An analysis of our poxy PM .

    Dour, relentlessly negative and thinks lentils, as a staple food, will save the world.

    Summation:
    An uncanny resemblance to Neil, from the “Young Ones.”

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    • I saw some figures the other day that said Trump raised $15 million in California in 24hrs.
      Kamila(sp?) Harris, who is from California. raised $12 million in total in the last 3 months.

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  19. You are driving in a car at a constant speed. On your left side is a sheer drop & on your right side is a fire engine travelling at the same speed as you. In front of you is a galloping pig, which is the same size as your car & you cannot overtake it. Behind you is a helicopter flying at ground level. Both the giant pig & the helicopter are also travelling at the same speed as you.

    What must you do to safely get out of this highly dangerous situation?

    Get off the children’s Merry Go Round…….you’re pissed.

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    • Must give it a go in the holidays.

      The kids won’t be there as they will be downtown protesting and telling us grown up’s how to run the world. Well, at least some will Doubt my grandies will. Better bought up, more brainpower than the average it would seem.

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  20. ?????????????????????????????
    The “OK” hand gesture is now a hate symbol, according to a new report by the Anti-Defamation League. The ADL says while not everyone means it to be hateful, the sign has been co-opted by the alt-right.

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  21. If you ‘ve got half an hour

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6sWD45TQFE

    Here is Donald Trumps full speech at the UN.
    He speaks a bit slow, they say you can speed it up
    He gets stuck into China, Iran , North Korea, Globalists, the Taliban, Immigration smugglers.
    Just watch some of the world leaders squirm – Adern at 20:18 folds her arms.
    China at 11:00 on Hongkong.
    Making the world a better place.
    He has some balls to say these things infront of everyone, but he gets applause at the end.

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  22. ‘OK’ hand gesture, ‘Bowlcut’ added to hate symbols database

    The “OK” hand gesture, a mass killer’s bowl-style haircut and an anthropomorphic moon wearing sunglasses are among 36 new entries in a Jewish civil rights group’s online database of hate symbols used by white supremacists and other far-right extremists.

    https://apnews.com/48ae1303568b4b21813adb3bd6d592e5

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    • The Jewish Anti-Defamation League is the most powerful and connected hate group on the planet. They are perhaps the most pro censorship and fake news promoting entity on earth. The even want the bible edited to make Jews look better.

      Most Jews are not religious supremacists like these evil bastards.

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      • ……”The even want the bible edited to make Jews look better”……

        I don’t wonder. With all the slaying, sacrificing & smiting they’ve attracted a lot of bad press.

        All I want is a disclaimer on the front page of the Bible warning readers that it is a work of fiction, contains extreme violence, accounts of torture, cruelty to animals & is not recommended for children under 18 years of age.

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    • How the hell do you get White power from a hand gesture signifying authorization or approval?
      How pathetic are these morons?

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  23. Government urged to ban pointed domestic knives after Chatham knife crime conference

    Crime experts, MPs and religious leaders have called on the Government to ban the sale of pointed domestic knives, following a knife crime conference.

    Held at the Historic Dockyard Chatham last Friday,The Point conference was organised as part of a month of initiatives – including the installation of the Knife Angel at Rochester Cathedral – after statistics showed there has been an 80% rise in knife crime in the UK since 2014.

    https://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/government-urged-to-ban-pointed-kitchen-knives-212712/

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    • “Man in frenzied butter knife attack arrested.”
      Police are attempting to stop these types of attacks spreading.

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    • Whatchca gunna do know ducky?
      You have two weeks holidays to think about it and you can ask the SLG when she’s back!

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    • Bunch of lefty wackjobs who don’t want their own words repeated. Laughed when Deborah Russell included as an example a “man’s slaves” were part of his well-being.

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