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  1. I watched once were warriors recently it’s a bloody good movie , the two main actors in my opinion gave a performance that has not been equaled since and never will be ,that movie would not be allowed to be made with any government department funding today as things have actually gotten worse in the last 30 years not better.

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    • Ya dead right there Brother, things have gotten much worse over the last 30 years. The failed solution, “By Maori for Maori”, the rise of the Gangs, particularly Mongrel Mob and Black Power, the inability of Plod hierarchy to stomp on anti social behavior, the lack of personal discipline and the breakdown of the family unit have all led to what we see today.

      I know, I see it every day in the course of my job.

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    • I agree that it was a movie that eclipsed all others made in NZ, but do you really think things are any different today? Or was it hidden more as we have become more aware of social media and we have become aware of what is happening out there? The ‘so called’ Warrior gene is very strong and it seems to be a source of pride among particularly the mobs. It does seem to be a badge of honour to beat up your kids to the point of killing them and the memes above are so true. Take it like a woman or man seems to be the way of it. Violence seems to breed violence and since turning everything into Maori it has certainly not helped. Bloody disgraceful way they behave, turns my stomach.

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    • This construct called the “Warrior Gene.”

      – Narcissism?
      – Lack of empathy?
      – Inability to foresee the consequences of one’s actions? (You beat your child and wonder why they hate you?)
      – Poor impulse control?
      – Low cognitive ability?

      Since most people who self-identify as “Maori” would be less than 25% Maori blood, I would expect the “Maori gene” to have become moderated somewhat.

      Maybe it’s something else?

      But what?

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    • I watched jack Nicholson -As Good as it Gets -over the weekend.
      Not seen it in over 10 years. Koo koo, lefty loony Helen Hunt being a deterrent.

      It would not be made today.
      The anti gay, black, jew etc was pasted on

      extracts
      Melvin Udall: Never, never, interrupt me, okay? Not if there’s a fire, not even if you hear the sound of a thud from my home and one week later there’s a smell coming from there that can only be a decaying human body and you have to hold a hanky to your face because the stench is so thick that you think you’re going to faint. Even then, don’t come knocking. Or, if it’s election night, and you’re excited and you wanna celebrate because some fudgepacker that you date has been elected the first queer president of the United States and he’s going to have you down to Camp David, and you want someone to share the moment with. Even then, don’t knock. Not on this door. Not for ANY reason. Do you get me, sweetheart?

      Receptionist: How do you write women so well?
      Melvin Udall: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.

      Melvin Udall: [introducing Carol to Simon] Carol the waitress, Simon the fag

      Nora: You’re a wonderful man. Two o’clock would be a good time, and here is the key in case he is asleep.
      Open his curtains for him so he can see God’s beautiful work, and he’ll know that even things like this happen for the best.
      Melvin Udall: [beat] Where did they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City “sailor wanna hump-hump” bar? Or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else. We’re all stocked up here.

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  2. TAH, Should I risk using those three overused words again ? yes I will ,WE ARE FUCKED and no Nude Nut, Seeless, Maggot coalition is going to make any bloody difference and to think it’s going to is blind stupidity.
    A long period of austerity is this countrys only chance, the cowards negotiating for the baubles right now haven’t got the will to do what is right.

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  3. A farmhand showed up at an urgent care facility with a broken arm. The doctor treating him asked how it had happened.

    In a slow drawl, the farmhand says, “well…about twenty-five years ago…”

    The doctor interrupts and says, “I don’t care about what happened twenty-five years ago, I want to know how you broke your arm today.”

    The farmhand gives the doctor an exasperated look and asks, “are you going to let me tell you or are you going to keep interrupting?”

    The doctor waves him on.

    The farmhand starts his story by repeating, “twenty-five years ago…I had just started working for the farmer and I was being put up for the night in an upper bedroom. The farmers beautiful daughter comes into my room and asks if there’s anything I needed before she went to bed.

    “I told her that I was pretty sure I was set for the evening.

    “She then asked me again if I was sure that there wasn’t anything I needed her to do before she went to her room. I told her again I was sure that I had everything I needed.

    “She asked again, ‘are you absolutely certain that there’s NOTHING I can do for you to make sure you have a great first night here?’”

    The doctor was getting impatient with the farmhand and asked if he could get to the point.

    “Well…” drawled the farmhand, “I was working up on the roof of the barn fixing some shingles when I finally figured out what was going on that night.

    I was so dumbfounded that I fell off the roof…”

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  4. The Forward
    JEWISH. INDEPENDENT. NONPROFIT.

    How Biden condemned Hamas for rape before the IDF officially confirmed it happened
    A close look at how social media and politics operate in the fog of war

    But the source of the rape allegation remains murky. While sexual assault is a common feature of violent conflict worldwide, the Israel Defense Forces told the Forward Tuesday night that it does not yet have any evidence of rape having occurred during Saturday’s attack or its aftermath. And most mainstream media outlets have avoided mention of rape, with the Los Angeles Times and NBC News specifically stating they have been unable to verify the claims.

    https://forward.com/news/564318/sexual-assault-rape-proof-hamas-idf-israel-gaza/

    Even Jewish media are questioning the claims. A shame they don’t apply critical thinking to the 6 Million © claims about the holocaust ™ or the 6 Million© claims European Jews made years before the war.

    If they simply told the truth they would not be in this position. We can then all agree that persecuting and killing people for their cultural and religious group is wrong.

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  5. High Court must decide if the vote-counters got it right – Richard Prebble

    There are reasons to doubt the result of the 2023 election. I say this having been a campaign organiser or candidate in 14 general elections, and also having been a UN official international election observer.

    Countries ensure that only qualified electors vote by requiring voters to register before the election, giving their name, address and occupation. The electoral roll is published to enable public scrutiny.

    My team would take the electoral roll door-to-door. We would find discrepancies and occasional electoral fraud. We found 18 people falsely enrolled at one address. It is the publishing of the roll that ensures the integrity of the election.

    In 2020, the Jacinda Ardern-led Government enacted election-day enrolment. Now, on election day, with no proof of ID or address, anyone can sign a declaration, enrol, and vote.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/election-2023-high-court-must-decide-if-the-vote-counters-got-it-right-richard-prebble/CB4MMPJGJVAAJFUV6B4SXBYVXU/

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    • In 2020, the Jacinda Ardern-led Government enacted election-day enrolment. Now, on election day, with no proof of ID or address, anyone can sign a declaration, enrol, and vote.

      That in itself is enough reason to suspect fraud. They will exploit any loophole and take advantage of any opportunity to advance their agenda.

      Releasing full stats, and broken down by voting category – (1) Existing voter, (2) New enrolled voter. (3) Special voters enrolled after enrollment day cutoff, but in advance of election day, (4) Election day enrollment; and cross referenced by party, by region, etc, and compared to the last 10 elections should show significant anomalies, in both 2020 and 2023. So probably 8-16 graphs.

      It is the pattern that continues. Covid stats were rigged, dangers of not locking down, not wearing masks rigged, safety and efficacy of the jabs rigged, Bill Of Rights and Crimes ACT with respect to the jabs trodden all over with Jac Boots, 2020 electioneering rigged – Ardern out in public during Level 2 lockdown, hugging, kissing, taking selfies, while ‘official’ electioneering had been ‘officially paused’. Not to mention dancing on the graves of the graves of the Pike River miners for political gain. Plus the long list of things they did under emergency to print money, and transfer wealth and ownership.

      But the public are expected to believe that their (Labour) farts don’t stink when it comes to electoral integrity.

      Antone who believes that Labour are as pure as the driven snow with regards to elections, probably also believes in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and Nigerian princes.

      It is the pattern that continues.

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      • Releasing full stats, and broken down by voting category – (1) Existing voter, (2) New enrolled voter. (3) Special voters enrolled after enrollment day cutoff, but in advance of election day, (4) Election day enrollment; and cross referenced by party, by region, etc, and compared to the last 10 elections should show significant anomalies, in both 2020 and 2023. So probably 8-16 graphs.

        Seems to me Dylan that there must be good grounds to ask the electoral commission for those numbers using an OIA.
        They will huff and puff but already I am hearing of people “securing” their jobs in Wellington by changing from contracting to full time employees. There’s an upcoming reason for that I suggest.

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  6. So the Wellington maggot didn’t turn up for negotiations yesterday so the whole circus is flying to Auckland to accommodate the drunken dwarf.I said last week these negotiations will be dictated by him 100% on his terms ,the clack bunt just can’t help himself.

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      • I really hope you’re wrong, but have to admit it’s not looking flash. Why for once in his life can Winston not show a bit of humility and do what’s right for the country rather than grandstanding like a petulant child. Watching slow hand Shane on the news proving what a screaming buffoon he is doesn’t help either.

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        • Tarquin, because he’s a little man with an enormously inflated ego ,that fricking maggot sunk this country in 2017 because the wankers in National hurt his feelings.
          Who was it on this blog that said the little turd would bring stability to government, it’s a joke .

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            • DH, in this country if you want up to date local news there is no choice, you’ve just gotta listen to it on the hour and then turn the crap off ,in this instance it was obviously the maggots MO so I posted it.

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              • I don’t watch TV, in fact don’t have Freeview or Sky and I don’t listen to radio. It is all bullshit being sprayed at the speed of light / sound, with no pause to check facts.
                If you stand in the spray, some of the bullshit sticks.

                I don’t read Stuff, Herald, Newsroom, Newshub, except maybe a once every few days, for 5 minutes, as pure entertainment, to see how far they have distorted or invented the news, filled peoples head with irrelevant crap.

                Anything actually important, local, national, or international, will either come through alternate news sites, through telephone or email from my network of like minded souls., etc. And of course RCR bites and interviews.

                Anything else I get through research.

                Unplug from the Matrix/Pravda/Borg/Dr Who Cyberman//Dr Who Satellite Five network, they have you, they own you. You are being brainwashed on a daily basis.

                Unplug and learn to think. Cold Turkey withdrawal can be a bitch, but is very freeing, and learning to think can be painful at first, but well worth the effort.

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        • The fable of the scorpion and the frog.
          —————–
          A scorpion asks a frog to carry it across a river. The frog hesitates, afraid of being stung, but the scorpion argues that if it did so, they would both drown. Considering this, the frog agrees, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both.

          Why did you do that asks the Frog. Its in my nature replies the scorpion.
          ————————-

          The moral of this fable is that like the scorpion, humans possess compulsions that they cannot repress even when it is in their best interest.
          On the flip side, the frog is a testament to being way too trusting.

          uh huh -just like people willingly got the pfizer stabby juice
          ..then …went back for more

          An excellent fable with many applications.
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          Its in my nature says Winston Raymond P-Daddy

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    • He’s a narcissistic baby. It was predictable. Luxon should’ve ruled him out from the get-go.
      The only redeeming feature of Winston’s inclusion, and it’s coming from unexpected quarters, is it looks like he and Seymour may be banding together to force Luxon of the maorification front.

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      • Winston and his team want justice for all the vaccine dead, injured, and crippled, and the increasing excess deaths addressed.

        Luxon and Seymour are gaslighting anyone that raises the issue, and slapping them down or punishing them.

        Last time I checked, striving for open discourse, transparency and justice is NOT a narcissistic trait. But gaslighting and attacking those who seek transparency and justice IS.

        You need to scratch the surface and look below the MSM narrative.

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    • Not following it much – as media turds will be making shit up (as usual) because they don’t really know what is going on
      BUT
      I thought they were doing the negotiations in Auckland since all 3 party leaders are domiciled there
      and it means the political reporter critters will have to pay for hotel accommodation to be away from the swamp, and in Akl
      …while not really knowing anything.

      Why are they in Wgtn?

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  7. https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/11/15/vital-northland-transport-link-could-be-closed-for-months/
    Vital Northland transport link could be closed for months

    State Highway 1 over the Brynderwyn Hills was seriously damaged by slips and flooding this year.

    Waka Kotahi says it needs to fully close State Highway 1 over the Brynderwyn Hills to fix storm damage on the vital connection for Northland.

    “We will work around key dates such as Waitangi Day and Easter and… will engage with our partners, stakeholders and the community to ensure the work is carefully planned to minimise disruptions as much as possible.”

    The partial closure of SH1 at the Brynderwyn Hills was costing Northland $2 million a day, and Waka Kotahi needed to come up and take the time to talk to businesses about long-term solutions, he said.

    “We can’t have that corridor compromised long-term. We’ve got to get past this patching idea and look to long-term solutions.

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    • Put a tunnel through the Brynderwyns

      They could build a tunnel through the Kaimais and Rimutakas more than 60 years ago

      Ah Wait.
      A 3 km tunnel in the 21st century for a choo choo in central Auckland, with a dedicated boring machine takes nearly 10 years
      Spare me!!!!

      waka huhu bug.
      Less use than chocolate teapot.

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    • just forget about fixing the roads there, sever every road etc and build a wall coast to coast then hand the north back to the brown folk and start launching every other undersirable scummer in nz over the wall via catapult.

      dont worry tarquin you have a boat so you can escape from hell.

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  8. Someone on YSB made a great point last week that things have never been as smooth as they have been since October the 14th with no real governing going on, but that’s not the point as we need to start the promised legislative work now not in February 2024 as Winston fucking Peters would probably prefer so he can have a two month holiday .
    The morons who chose that dishonorable prick will be impossible to find by June 2024.

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  9. Regarding the coalition talks – I don’t understand why they couldn’t just accept the items they agree on, decide to compromise on the items they sort of agree on, and vow to discuss further the outstanding items once Parliament is underway prior to the final count.
    Just sign an agreement on the first two, put on your big boy pants and show up and do some work. Perhaps there should be a cessation of salary for the ‘between’ times we have no sitting MPs.

    Or am I being too logical?

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    • Mcduff:—Seems very logical to us common folk. 🙂
      A way of how us common folk, find ways of getting along & getting at least some things done.

      But the name of the game seems to be trade offs.
      Trade offs seem to be a form of Cancelling some of the Common-sense.
      That allows a toe hold for Deep State in, to subvert even further.

      So that certain sections can be blanked out, for some so called advantage that the voter may not become aware, or figure out until much later.

      Then they become entangled in their own web, & lost control to other powers.
      They may seem to be in control, to act it, but really have lost it.
      What is even allowed, becomes a controlled opposition,,

      — “Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!” (Sir Walter Scott, 1808)

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    • I am guessing that for Seeless and Winnie once an agreement is signed they would lose negotiating power. It would be an extreemly bad look if they signed something only for it to turn to shit a few weeks later.

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    • …cessation of salary for the ‘between’ times we have no sitting MPs.
      ——————
      Can they pay back the salary from much of 2020 and 2021 when in lockdown then

      you will also note the lockdowns were never on the many holidays the MPs get.
      There was a faked up scare in Mid January 2021 in northland but nothing came of it; but when they returned in Feb 2021 – 2 days later, a lockdown.
      Same again Both Aug 2020 and Aug 2021 when the MPs came back from along mid winter siesta there was a lockdown…. the 2021 being the West Berlining of Auckland.

      A large part of this was the Adrain bitch wrecking democracy.
      No sitting time, then rush through under urgency.
      Select committees shut down.

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    • I don’t understand why they couldn’t just accept the items they agree on.

      It is not the items they agree on that are the issue. It is the items that they do not agree on that have to be fought and won.

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  10. What is a New Zealander?

    I put it to you that a New Zealander is not someone who flies the flag of their ancestral country on their property (or off their car).
    Not someone who sends back to their home country for a spouse for their children.
    Not someone who has photos of foreign royalty in their living room.

    What else would a New Zealander not do?

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  11. “Tony Alexander: Why Kiwis shouldn’t bet against a rapid rise in house prices. . .”

    Increase in Auckland 2.7% in last quarter. Already in the Sagster’s prediction range of > 10% in next year. Might have to rejig forecast to 15%,

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  12. NZ farmers are being rolled by Corporate financial institutions.

    15th November …… [Westpac] … By 2030, farms it has loaned money to will need to have 9 percent lower emissions per kilo of meat for sheep and beef, and 10 percent lower per kilo of milk for dairy.

    ….. Westpac, like other New Zealand lenders, is a member of the Net Zero Banking Alliance, via its Australian parent company. ….

    …. Joining the alliance means agreeing to get the emissions of the whole businesses – including the impact of the companies banks lend to – to a level compatible with keeping global heating to 1.5C. …..

    …. BNZ has already set a target of cutting by 11 percent the climate impact-per-kilo of food produced by its farmer customers, by 2030. …..

    ….. ASB and ANZ’s parent banks have also signed up to the alliance, and will need to produce targets in the next couple of years.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/502461/westpac-sets-intensity-based-emissions-target-for-farms-it-loans-to

    Upping the ante, ongoing costs that will particularly affect smaller family farms.
    Corporate farms will have the large scale to afford the specialists in filing heaps of returns, plus Carbon Emission Plans, Water Plans, etc., etc., to be ok’d by only government approved coordinators & auditors etc., all to save the planet’s climate/weather.

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    • For the ones who do not owe money or not need an overdraft, note how corporate bodies, like Fonterra, and stock & station agents, Freezing works, Fertiliser companies, will feel that compulsion from their systemic financial controllers to also mandate compliance before dealing with that so called independent farmer business.

      Let alone all the claims about how the overseas customers supposedly want us to comply or they will boycott NZ.
      Although that is sort of a corporate to corporate hatchet job too.

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  13. Obnoxious unionist and arrogant twat Helen White gets confirmed in Mont Alberto recount

    National Party – Melissa Lee
    Official result: 13218 – Recount result: 13220 (increase by 2)
    Labour Party – Helen White
    Official result: 13238 – Recount result: 13238 (no change – White holds the seat by 18 votes)
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    Some place in Tonga or Cook islands in some-place called
    Tāmaki Makaurau: has

    Labour Party – Peeni Henare
    Official result: 10,046 – Recount result: 10,026 (decreases by 20)
    Te Pāti Māori – Takutai Tarsh Kemp
    Official result: 10,050 – Recount result: 10,068 (increase by 18 – Kemp holds the seat by 42 votes)
    —————

    Given the quality of counting I think an 8 year old could do bedder that the Electoral Commission
    I don’t trust any goo-mint numbers any more.
    Nothing from a NZ goo-mint Dept (or crown enterprise or any other misdirect name) is trustworthy.

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  14. HorseAir

    https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/11/15/plane-forced-to-make-u-turn-after-horse-escapes/
    Plane forced to make U-turn after horse escapes

    A flight en route to Belgium has been forced to turn around after a horse got loose in the cargo hold.

    The Air Atlanta Icelandic cargo flight was on its way to Liege in Belgium from New York City when the incident occurred.

    After two hours in the air, the horse broke from his stall, running around the cargo hold causing chaos.

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  15. Winston ruling the roost. Makes sense when they’re all based in Auckland.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/11/jenna-lynch-election-2023-analysis-coalition-talks-become-a-circus-as-christopher-luxon-david-seymour-cave-to-winston-peters-whims.html
    ANALYSIS: So they caved. They gave in to Winston’s whims. They played Peters’ game.

    After waiting all day in Wellington, expecting Winston Peters to grace his future governing partners with his presence, Christopher Luxon and a selection of his brains trust made a mad dash to catch the last flight out of the capital on Tuesday evening destined for Auckland where Peters was holed up.

    When Peters says jump Luxon’s no longer just asking how high, he’s asking: when and where too.

    A necessity perhaps in this case to charm the kingmaker and court holder because Newshub understands National’s first offer to New Zealand First was a dud. They lowballed the man who’s negotiated three government deals. This is the price to pay.

    As one MP who endured the rollercoaster ride of working with Peters in the 2017 term put it: “They have obviously pissed Winston off. He does this kind of thing to make a point.”

    It’s not Winston Peters’ first rodeo but it is beginning to look like Christopher Luxon’s first circus.

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    • Jenna Lynch :—- is she anything worth noting.
      A mixture of small minor facts, like a bar-fly in the pub noticing something in the carpark; and then interviews the type-writer. …. hmmm.

      Small fact:– NZ1st 6% of the vote. No electorate seat.
      ACT 8% of the vote. 2 electorate seats.

      Though I do believe there are some considerable policies to resolved, like Co-Governance, Principles Referendum: Crime & 3 Strikes, Expand Covid Inquiry.
      To sort out the Farm Fresh Water Plans, Zero Carbon Emissions Farm Plans, which have been triggered into action by Regional Councils.
      Transit NZ to sort out some of the road repairs priorities.
      Crazy RMA, geo-engineering, consents, fees, permits that are applied by Councils in building houses.

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    • Pigs will fatten on that popcorn 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿 🙂 🍺

      Sure I hope 🙂 hope that things will pan out ok with Winston, not that I care that much for Seymour, not Luxon.

      That is the hand that has been dealt, & though we many conjecture, opinion-ate & try & remain hopeful.

      Life is still not too bad, with that amount of popcorn, and numb the brain while NZ swirls around the whirl pool descent.
      Are we beyond the point of no return? or is it to fight on, to never never never give in to surrender but nor cut my nose off to spite my face.

      I fight on, but also need breaks, to refresh, recharge, to reconsider strategies & tactics.
      Sometimes the more some say it has changed, the more it is found to be the same.

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  16. In approximately 3 and 1 half hours I shall mount my trusty Honda Forza and proceed down to Nai Harn Beach where I shall dismount park and wander the sand looking at all the fine, fine ass. I will then partake in a swim in the lovely turquoise waters of the bay and afterwards sit myself at my favourite beachside bar where I shall order one 500ml Heineken almost frozen cold from the delightful no more than 45kg Thai bargirl who I must say has the loveliest most shapely bottom, and drink.
    At precisely 7- and one-half minutes later I shall order another and then probably one more and quite possibly, a roady
    I will then mount the 45kg Thai bargirl. Sorry. I will then mount my trusty Honda Forza for the fast trip back to my abode where I shall then order in a Pad Kaprao Moo Kai Dow, pet, and settle in for the night watching re-runs of Breaking Bad.
    I wonder what Kea will be doing…

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  17. I have been wondering more about the Middle East world, despite all the noise & protests from our friendly Hamas war mongering media.
    This explains a lot, of how Israel is so far ahead in why the media & the blood thirsty Hamas supporters of western protesters, should be ignored.
    I was also surprised how quick Israel got into Gaza, & now into exposing some of those tunnels.
    Israel seems to be coming to more cashed up too, as I thought economically it would be bleeding out,

    This Changes EVERYTHING | Israel War Day 37 Updates
    https://youtu.be/nSP_W9_KCmU
    11 minutes : November 13th 2023 : The Tom Nash Report

    …. Arab League Summit in Riyadh: a significant meeting of Arab leaders where plans to condemn Israel did not materialize as expected.
    This suggests a shift in the traditional stance of some Arab countries towards Israel, possibly influenced by the Abraham Accords, which normalized relations between Israel and several Arab nations. …..

    Perhaps we can all calm down, de-stress. 🙂
    Now we have the job to call out the blood thirsty war mongering protesters in New Zealand.
    What the fuck are they about? Marama Fox, Golly G, Menemdez Greens. Money from Hamas & their ilk.???

    So the work of President Trump has held.
    The Abraham Accords is still effective.
    Are those Arabs seeing a future renewal of President Trump as well?

    The goal being De-militarize the Gaza & West Bank totally.
    Is this vid too good to be true?
    Well better a few more facts & info that our emotional NZ media feed us, 🙂

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    • Good question. So is asking why the one group who gain absolutely nothing out of the largess are paying for the useless cunts to wobble around the harbour on fine days*.

      * On the 340 days of the year when the Wellington weather is its normal shit the wankers will be in cars or buses.

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    • When they first propsed this, it was only a couple of weeks later the Regional Council came out with a glossy report on Climate Change and yes, rising sea levels. When I raised this on the local Scoop site, they just did not want to know.
      The original cost was $70mill , then quickly rose to about $150 mill. When they started it was up $330 mill. I predict it will go over $500 mill, which will make it about 40% of the Transmission Gully road.

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      • they should just be building full sized roads for cyclists and close them off to cars. then after 12mnths when they realise how under utilised they are they can reopen to cars and drivers can experience the luxury of driving on an unpotholed road!

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    • Not my down tick kea, but this should show where MacGregor is getting it wrong.
      MacGregor majored in Russia & EU dynamics, & sadly I noted that some small things did not click.
      Some parts of where he talks is good, like how stupid Biden & crew are, & the risk to the navy assets.
      I mentioned last night the great support by Putin to Assad, in kicking the rebels arse, which is supported by USA,
      So will Putin allow Turkey another friend of Putin’s, send Erdogan’s army through Syria?

      The countries that proposed an oil ban don’t have any oil 😂 …..

      Military action, Turkey is part of NATO, and on the brink of economic collapse, will need shoring up financially some aid. etc
      so it can’t technically or financially wage war without self destructing.

      What military has Lebanon is already on the brink, and is basically a failed state. If it escalates, Beirut will look like Gaza and Lebanon will need 100 years to recover.
      Netanyahu assured that the Lebanon government will be held personally responsible.

      Syria had no capable military, and if Assad wastes what’s left of it nothing will protect him from losing power.
      Will Assad be fully supported by the rest the rebels where he has killed many.
      Sure they may agree, but Assad will be doomed.

      Jordan has way too much to lose and so do the Guif countries.

      Egypt is completely dependent on US an Europe for its military and to avoid financial collapse.

      And Iran doesn’t want to get its hands dirty, and they don’t really care about Sunnis dying in Gaza. So who’s left?

      So plenty of squawking, & during this long wait, Look at what prevailed in Riyadh.!

      …. Arab League Summit in Riyadh: a significant meeting of Arab leaders where plans to condemn Israel did not materialize as expected.
      This suggests a shift in the traditional stance of some Arab countries towards Israel, possibly influenced by the Abraham Accords, which normalized relations between Israel and several Arab nations. …..

      @ 5:40pm above
      https://ysb.co.nz/have-your-say-1667/#comment-367466
      From my link, seems to be the goals that Israel lays out in running Gaza. which seems to align with the Arab Emirates concept.

      It may still be too early to tell, but Israel seems to be doing pretty well.

      How many of the pro Hamas Free Palestine, from the River to the Sea heading off to help in Gaza?
      The real problem, the biggest issue as I see it, the fucking UN WHO where The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) and can Israel kick them right out of having any further shitting influence?

      Though I do not know much, there is a hell of a lot in play, & at stake.

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      • I agree that if the Arab world united they could take out Israel and I agree that the West grossly over estimates its abilities.

        However I agree with what you are saying. I don’t think they will intervene militarily at least in terms of all out war.

        BUT…

        “It may still be too early to tell, but Israel seems to be doing pretty well.”

        The entire world has turned against Israel. They have already lost in terms of improving their security going forward. It is now politically unpalatable to support Israel. There has never been a time in history where Jews were universally hated so much. No it is not “anti semitism” it is purely because of their actions.

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      • The concept of pan Muslim world where Organisation of Islamic States was founded in 1969 after a fire in a mosque in Jerusalem. All set to follow Mohammad & his goals per koran, hadith, & sirah.
        They also expanded in the worlds universities to show that Islam is a “Religion of Peace” and that has been readily swallowed up, as money flowed to certain “chairs” of study.

        It is not just Israel, which needs to move.
        We ourselves need to learn much more.

        Islamic cleric & scholar Shaykh Adnan Rashid of Muslim Central explains why Muslims come to the UK:
        “To conquer & take power”.

        https://twitter.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1724376593919811967

        Can we ever really expect a wonderful moderate muslim to stand up for us?
        When their numbers start to give them a sense of power beyond our democratic understanding?

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        • Yes muslims want to conquer and take power. Just as jews have already done in the USA, turning it into a global war monger killing people Israeli extremists don’t like.

          So which semites do we target? Incidentally Palestinians are way way waaaaaayyyyy more semitic than the largely European jews.

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  18. Just because you have arrived with fuck all to do here is some light reading for ya.

    Migration-driven population growth has more than doubled compared to pre-Covid levels
    15th Nov 23, 11:26am by Greg Ninness
    New Zealand’s rate of migration-driven population growth has more than doubled compared to pre-Covid levels.

    Statistics NZ estimates that this country had a record net migration gain (long term arrivals minus long term departures) of 119,000 people over the 12 months to the end of September this year, compared to a net gain of 59,000 in the 12 months to September 2019, just before the Covid pandemic hit.

    The latest figure is the biggest ever migration-driven population gain for any 12 months period.

    The current annual net gain of 119,000 came from a net gain of 164,000 overseas citizens coming to this country long term and a net loss of 45,000 New Zealand citizens heading overseas long term.

    Altogether 211,000 overseas citizens came to this country long term in the 12 months to September this year, while another 47,000 overseas citizens who were already here departed long term, giving the net gain of 164,000.

    https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/125242/migration-driven-population-growth-has-more-doubled-compared-pre-covid-levels..

    Duck everyone, incoming garbage cans.

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