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  1. Using EDs train meme that could be Nude Nut standing on the tracks with a couple of thousand tons of destruction heading toward our country and he’d still be parroting “it’s been a great day we’ve had a productive meeting and we’re on the way to forming a government for all New Zealanders” .
    Seeless said about yesterdays meeting “We had a meeting of about a 1/2 an hour”
    Oh yeah folks negotiations are going so fricking well ,what have these clowns achieved in the last week?SWEET FUCK ALL that’s what.
    A 1/2 hour wouldn’t have covered the introductions and a coffee FFS , the Wellington maggot is up to his tricks again , why is Peters given a ministerial limousine when he’s not yet deputy prime minister or foreign minister ??
    The 1/2 hour would have been to sort out the positions in the group photo released to the media ,Nude Nut was very fortunate that Peters allowed him to be in the center position, LMFAO.

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  2. A world acknowledged Fuckwit and Liar, with no clues on absolutely anything, utters a few words and we are expected to believe she has any knowledge on the subject of her utterings.

    I thought this piece of excrement was too busy, having a rest because it had an “empty tank”, looking after the sprog and planning on getting married, but no, those claims seem to be lies too. It is still overseas, trying to be relevant.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/dame-jacinda-ardern-calls-for-humanity-approach-to-israel-hamas-war-during-harvard-speech/HAHZQ3NTLZCVTFRNUWKXS5GNNI/

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  3. TAH@0553

    Thank you for taking one for the team and for bringing the article to our attention (Although you should really have included a Public Health warning in your post).

    I tried, I really tried to read the article, but when I saw the photograph and read that she (Yet again) considers herself ‘Youth adjacent’ I’m sorry, but I just couldn’t read any more. it was just so, so bad!!

    Thank you for the effort; I hope that, despite reading and viewing what you did, your health hasn’t been too badly effected and that you will recover soon.

    You were a very brave man…

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  4. Christopher Luxon, David Seymour and Winston Peters are likely to all meet again with negotiations remaining in Auckland as policy disagreements persist.

    Those disagreements still surround tax and Treaty/co-governance matters which have become key sticking points as the parties look to form the next government.

    Following the meeting between Luxon, Seymour and Peters yesterday morning at the Pullman Hotel, talks between the parties continued into the afternoon.

    In their later one-on-one talks, it’s understood Peters handed Luxon a revised version of the document for their agreement, and the two parties were now spending some time going back through it.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/leaders-likely-to-continue-three-way-meetings-as-policy-differences-persist/HIUFN57J4VGPFJCA5UIUG4XKTU/

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    • Viking@0713

      When I read ‘Christopher Luxon, David Seymour and Winston Peters are…’, I thought that you had written us a ‘Bar-type’ joke where three totally unrelated individuals simultaneously walk in through an hostelry door.

      Sadly, there was no joke, but merely three clowns seated at the Governmental trough, stringing things out for their own individual advantage and gain.

      Oh well….

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  5. This I found amusing
    Dandemic has been knocked back by the Portsea Golf club for membership.
    There are so classic comments.
    https://twitter.com/RoadknightThe/status/1723936342898246074
    My feelings on this.
    I am overjoyed to see the first glimpses of pushback against these tyranical despotes.
    Why would any organization that had their business destroyed by this fanatic, welcome him.
    Hopefully more politicians and government officials will be made to feel the same way the entire population was made to feel, like lepers, he may have money, but he will never be able to buy acceptance.

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  6. A high-ranking police officer who kneeled on a semi-naked woman at Parliament’s anti-mandate occupation is facing legal action with two protestors filing a civil case against him this week.

    A District Court judge commented during a criminal hearing for one of those protestors that while there may have been resistance, there were “genuine questions about the level of force” used by the officer who was second in charge of the entire operation at Parliament.

    A forensic doctor who gave police advice during a criminal investigation into the officer’s actions said she believed the restraint used against Laura Cassin while she was on the ground could have caused “serious harm”.

    However, the officer argued the restraint was reasonable and police concluded his actions didn’t meet the legal threshold for any charges to be laid.

    Now Cassin and a fellow protestor have filed a civil claim in the High Court, alleging their rights were breached by what they claim was excessive force. They are seeking compensation.

    Video shows Cassin being pulled from the crowd by her hair and forced to the ground, before her upper body was draped in a blanket by a paramedic. A male police officer then kneeled on her upper body while she was arrested by two female officers.

    Cassin made a complaint about the officer, but she was charged with trespass before the police’s investigation into the officer concluded.

    She went to trial in March but Judge Andrew Nicholls dismissed the case part way through, citing the 14-month wait for the trial and the “serious mistakes” of the police prosecution in not ensuring the officer was available to give evidence.

    Cassin’s lawyer Tudor Clee had repeatedly requested that the officer be made available to give evidence at her trial – but the officer in charge of the case, who had known the officer for 20 years, failed to arrange for him to appear, claiming he narrowly read his emails.

    Cassin was later awarded nearly $6000 in costs.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/parliament-protests-high-ranking-police-officer-faces-civil-action-in-relation-to-two-arrests/SXHMXHK2ARALFGPLZYBSNNMRJY/

    worth reading the rest.

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  7. The Northland-based MP ( Jones), gave few other details, instead expressing his displeasure following a report from the Northern Advocate that Waka Kotahi was considering advice that could mean State Highway 1 over the Bryndweryns in Northland was closed for two months early next year.

    ‘I’ll meet with Northland folk who are livid with [the New Zealand Transport Agency] and their unilateral decision to lock down the Bryderwyns SH1, south of Whangārei.

    “They’ll learn it is not only the name of Waka Kotahi that will be ‘haere ra’ but their culture of conceit will be weeded out as well!”

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/leaders-likely-to-continue-three-way-meetings-as-policy-differences-persist/HIUFN57J4VGPFJCA5UIUG4XKTU/

    That sounds like music to my ears.

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    • No doubt one of the policy differences will be Winston’s commitment to NZ First voters to have a FULL independent inquiry into Covid, the vaccines, and probably the ongoing excess deaths. And the media will NOT be commenting on that as being a coalition sticking point.

      There are fiscal matters, co-governance matters, and health/well being matters. Fiscal is important, but co-governance is critical, and health/well being is super critical, given the number of lives lost unnecessarily through deliberate malfeasance, and lives, health, and livelihoods impacted. Luxon has a lot to learn about the value of a human life, and that they all count. There is no carpet big enough to hide what Ardern and her crew did, especially as with a change of government whistle blowers will gain confidence to speak out.

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  8. Clifford and Daisy May were married for many years.

    Whenever there was a confrontation, yelling could be heard deep into the night. Clifford would shout, “When I die, I’ll dig my way up and out of the grave and come back and haunt you for the rest of your life ol’ woman!!”

    Neighbors feared him. Old Clifford liked the fact that he was feared.

    He died at the ripe old age of 98.

    After the burial, Daisy May’s neighbors, concerned for her safety, asked, “Aren’t you afraid that he may indeed be able to dig his way out of the grave and haunt you for the rest of your life?”

    She replied, “LET HIM DIG. I HAD HIM BURIED UPSIDE DOWN…AND I KNOW HE WON’T ASK FOR DIRECTIONS

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  9. I touched on this last night in this thread started by kea, why Netanyahu has been able to go ahead on Gaza.
    https://ysb.co.nz/have-your-say-1667/#comment-367491
    So more info has come to light. showing why Israel seems to be going ahead on cleaning out Gaza & looking at the long-term hold for peace.

    ….. There have been a number of articles about how to fill the vacuum that ill be left in Gaza after Israel destroys Hamas.
    It is a significant question: no one wants another Islamist group to take over. ……

    https://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-best-solution-for-everyone-turn.html

    As mentioned in my comment link above; there does seem to be some sort of support of this by abiding to “The Abraham Accords”.
    Not that our media ever consider such things, as they are in so many ways, so much in lockstep with starting & continuing violence.
    Is it workable? or just a hope for peace.

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    • A very interesting poll coming out of Australia.
      Slaying the lie how Israel has lost the global public support, as exposing those devious traitors that go on about that.

      New polling reveals ‘average Australian’ attitude toward Israel-Palestine conflict
      https://youtu.be/9Lim1EOeNAE
      4 minutes 14 secs :

      …. When asked “should Australia declare support for either side” 31 per cent of people say Australia should declare support for Israel, he said.

      “Only 7 per cent say we should declare support for Palestine.”

      When asked “should Australia keep out of the conflict in terms of asking for a ceasefire,” 69 per cent of people said, Australia should not call for a ceasefire, Mr Bond said.

      “It is abundantly clear what the average Australian thinks.”

      So a lot a noise, squawking, etc.. but the common people showing common-sense.
      The real problem are the politicians, that bend for the ongoing squawkers, and do not take heed of their good constituents.

      Even Mayor Tory Whanau may have it wrong in Green Wellington.
      https://ysb.co.nz/have-your-say-1668/#comment-367584

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    • Again the media support the vociferous squawkers, that Israel’ has lost the public relations & support.
      So the media omit, & hide info. so that squawkers keep on relaying that Israel has lost.

      …. WASHINGTON (AP) — Supporters of Israel rallied by the tens of thousands on the National Mall under heavy security Tuesday, voicing solidarity in the fight against Hamas and crying “never again.”
      https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinian-war-march-washington-830cb77476af80ffde431165ee01533d

      The numbers are important, to influence the politicians but this seems to be an amazing contrast.

      … It was the largest rally in the history of American Jewry.
      Organizers told me that 290,000 people were confirmed to have come through the metal detectors.
      It looked like tens of thousands more didn’t have the required wristbands to get past security.

      https://twitter.com/Efune/status/1724538093527580683
      Nov., 15th., 2023

      Why do the defeatists, some of them balancing on a barb wire fence, endangering things like Biden, a supposed good American friend of Israel.
      So they try and spread rumours to the contrary, cherry picking some little facts saying Israel has lost.

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    • “the long-term hold for peace.” That bit won’t happen.

      The Abraham Accords are ignored as Trump advanced them further than anyone with all his peace-mongering. He had Israel and Arabs holding hands and looking lovingly into each others eyes.

      Historically Jews sought protection under the Ottomans – from the Christstains.

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  10. But rulz don’t apply to greenie mayor Tory

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/11/wellington-mayor-tory-whanau-worse-than-wayne-brown-for-lack-of-transparency-media-appearances.html
    AM host Ryan Bridge has hit out at Wellington mayor Tory Whanau, saying she is “worse than Wayne Brown” for refusing to front to media to answer questions as a publicly elected official.

    Whanau has told council staff not to remove a mural in the city’s Waitangi Park which called for a ceasefire in Gaza.

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  11. Tudor Clee lawyer of the year (awarded by lawful magazine) interviewed by Paul Brennan on RCR.
    Tudor has been involved in numerous cases around MIQ and particularly trying to get pregnant woman back to NZ.
    Some of the things he reports are absolutely mind blowing. It is about an hour but well worth the time. I have heard so much previously about the covid responses especially the vax but this is a whole new level.
    The good thing is that he is still taking legal action and continues to expose those behind it.
    https://realitycheck.radio/replays/paul-brennan-breakfast/
    The first 10 minutes or so focuses on the fluoride decision that was overturned which is also somewhat interesting with the main part of the interview starting after that.

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  12. From Good Returns today

    “The number of new listings on the market not keeping up with demand and putting upward pressure on house prices, Quotable Value’s (QV) latest House Price Index data show.
    First home buyers are flooding the market in more affordable areas in a bid to get into a house before investors come back into the market and provide stiff competition.

    Interest in buying property has been on an upward trajectory post-election and as the market heads towards what is typically the peak selling season, some buyers are looking to get in ahead of any perceived property price increases post-election.

    National, the biggest winner in the election, housing policies include pulling the Brightline test back to two years and reinstating mortgage interest payments as a tax deduction over a two-year period.

    Residential property values have lifted for the third month in a row as the housing market finds it footing after a slump over the past two years.”

    *Arkk arkkk ffrrrttttttt 🐦💩💩💩💩

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    • “The number of new listings on the market not keeping up with demand”

      Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha !!!

      There are tens of thousands of unsold houses on TradeMe alone. Your denial of reality is sad and pathetic. Get to fucking rehab and sort your shit out champ.

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  13. From Hobson’s Choice’s latest email :

    “We need a referendum on the Treaty! If National won’t do it, we will demand a Citizens Initiated Referendum.

    It’s rumoured that one of the sticking points in reaching agreement between the three political parties which are trying to form a coalition Government is ACT’s call for a referendum on what the Treaty means.

    Christopher Luxon has repeatedly made it clear that he isopposed to New Zealanders having a say on such an important constitutional matter.

    But this is an insult to all New Zealanders who believe we should all be treated equally and have the right to be heard on fundamental constitutional matters.

    Yesterday, we sent you an email asking that, even before the new Government sets about fixing the egregiously racist policies put in place by the last Government, it should fix the serious mistakes of the previous National-led Government, in particular the Marine and Coastal Area Act.

    It is quite outrageous that the National Party Leader now wants to deny New Zealanders a say on whether we are going to be a country where all citizens are equal before the law , or whether, on the contrary, we are going to be forever divided based on who some of our ancestors were.

    If it helps everybody save face, perhaps the referendum should not be about the Treaty per se. Instead, let’s have a referendum on whether these principles are a fundamental part of our constitution:
    All citizens of New Zealand have the same political rights and duties. All political authority comes from the people by democratic means including universal suffrage, regular and free elections with a secret ballot. New Zealand is a multi-ethnic liberal democracy where discrimination based on ethnicity is illegal.
    For the avoidance of doubt, these principles prevail over any contradictory enactment by Parliament, or finding by the Courts.

    We need a referendum to show the liberal elite that they are out of touch with the voters. We need to deliver the kind of message that the Voice referendum in Australia delivered.

    We need those who think they know better than us to show the courage of their convictions by making their arguments in a referendum campaign, not just lecture us in the media.

    If National does not agree to a referendum, we will work with similar groups to demand a Citizens Initiated Referendum affirming that we are a country where all citizens have equal political rights. New Zealanders deserve the chance to pass judgement on the divisive, expensive, and destructive path the political elite in both National and Labour have taken our country on. This will only occur through a referendum.

    If you agree that this is of fundamental importance, I urge you to tell Christopher Luxon your view on the issue by heading to his Facebook Page now. “

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    • What is the question?
      There are no principles in the treety.
      Who decides on the question?
      Politicians?
      Having a referendum on the principles is the wrong approach.
      Don’t have a referendum that will be a chance for major upheaval. Just remove all race based legislation. Do it first up no debate.
      The Maori caucus forced division upon us .undo it.

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  14. From today’s Waikato Times, “New library options laid out for Cambridge. Apparently the Waipa Council is mulling over the possibilities after discovering that the library is “bursting at the seams”. According to Mayor Susan O’Regan “a library’s offering goes far beyond books. Libraries are essentially the living rooms of our towns & need to provide a range of comforts our community can benefit from together.”

    It seems that in this brave new age the Oxford Dictionary definition of a library as “a building or room containing collections of books, periodicals, and sometimes films and recorded music for use or borrowing by the public or the members of an institution” has been superceded. Probably because most people graduating from our cultural education system can’t read.

    Who would have guessed? Anyway, I’m certain that our Ed won’t mind chipping in another few hundred a year on top of his present rates to finance the new community services hub. /////

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      • That’s what will probably happen Sooty & it worries me. The residents of Chez Nasska are as free from educational qualifications as a frog from feathers yet we are book worms. Even when the kids were young a wet Sunday afternoon would see the TV off & everyone parked up in their favourite part of the house with a book.

        The age of computer gaming & kapa haka has overtaken us.

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    • oh they are lucky. We already have 3 libraries and now the landed gentry and the commissioners wanr=t ratepayers to sell the water assets and build a $360 million library building with a bloody museum thown in.
      They can fuck off until the council has lowered its debt and fixed our roads.

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  15. Here the BBC blames misquoting a Reuters report.

    For the umpteenth time since the war started, the @BBC has had to apologize for reporting libelous information about Israel.
    Honestly, I don’t know why they even bother apologizing at this point…

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1724737142868283847
    29 secs : Nov 15th 2023

    People will carry on quoting the BBC as it nigh impossible to unring the bell, despite that apology.
    But the BBC prove to be a very good platform for Hamas as they have such great “kindness” for the “well being”.
    Do I have to say that the interview clip below is actually true?

    BBC – a platform for Hamas propaganda: Israeli hostages are our “guests… we want to release them”
    https://youtu.be/t8wXeJRJGvc
    1 min 7 secs : Nov 15th 2023 :

    This does not seem so much like satire after the above BBC clip.

    A satire show in Israel deservedly mocks the BBC again and the disingenuous calls for ceasefire.
    Wait until the end, it’s worth it. 😂

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1724540024849342695
    3 mins 23 secs : 15th Nov., 2023

    If one does not know whether to laugh or cry, at least laughter is the best for you, to cope with that murderous truth.

    A link to a thread of some of my earlier comments today on Israel, Hamas, Media aspects etc..
    https://ysb.co.nz/have-your-say-1668/#comment-367558

    No wonder the media should be totally cleansed out.
    Also note Tarquin sees the same media fairy soap bubbles being blown to all of us.
    To try and push us to accept, believe, and act, on the most stupid ignorant shit they can invent.
    Not holding my breath either Tarquin.

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  16. I think the news coming from any msm outlet should be renamed ” The conjecture “. The sheer amount of tripe I’m hearing at the moment is mind blowing, they clearly know nothing but that hasn’t stopped them from coming up with all sorts of ridiculous theories. Perhaps they could use this quiet interlude we are having at the moment to reflect on what they are supposed to be doing, reporting what is happening rather than what they want to see happening. Wouldn’t that be wonderful? I’m not holding my breath.

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  17. Harvard is an ivory league university which has produced some of the world’s greatest minds over nearly four centuries of excellence. Has it really fallen so far that it can’t recognise the dipshit Ardern for the intellectually challenged sack of Marxist crap with a two-bit comms degree that she actually is?

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  18. Slippery as an eel

    Winston Peters denies Wellington meeting snub: ‘I was never going’
    https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/11/16/winston-peters-denies-wellington-meeting-snub-i-was-never-going/

    Winston Peters speaks to media outside the Cordis hotel in Auckland.

    NZ First leader Winston Peters has denied that he had snubbed a meeting with National leader Christopher Luxon and ACT leader David Seymour in Wellington earlier this week.

    Peters said that Tuesday’s supposed meeting in the capital with Luxon and Seymour was not on the agenda.

    “I don’t know why I’m hearing all this nonsense.”

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  19. Just listened to a lawyer Tudor Clee talking to Paul Brennan on RCR about the cases he took on behalf of pregnant women, locked out of NZ during Ardern’s reign of tyranny and his experiences with the bureaucrats. How the Bill of Rights was just thrown out the window, partly because they did not want be bothered but mainly because they were totally ignorant of it. A MUST listen for those interested.

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        • Notice how bitcoin out performs housing without:

          1. The govt printing money to buy bitcoins.
          2. Artificially restricting the supply to increase prices.
          3. Handing out tax breaks on money borrowed for bitcoin.
          4. Handing out benefits to bitcoin buyers to elevate prices further.

          Unlike housing ponzi parasites.

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          • youre an ignorant twat, bitcoin is artificially restricted you mong.
            tax breaks… yeah tax free for most folk as no way to reliably track it unless ird get hold of your wallet id.

            youre getting stupider by the day bird brain.

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              • lots of home ownership is private too so whats your point?
                you said bitcoin outperforms housing without restricting supply or the need for tax breaks etc but now you admit they do but its ok because its super private and the public have no input lol… its so private anyone can invest lol, how many private houses can you randomly invest in bro?

                the halving… = restricting supply worse then any council or govt does with land availability and artificially inflating prices.

                my brother sold hundreds of bitcoin at 80c usd each over a decade ago, at todays prices its inflated to almost 47000 times that price, created from thin air and backed by nothing but speculation, it dosent even exist in a tangible form but yeah the great guru predicterer kea says its not a ponzi and far better then a house you can live in… what a fucktard, show me a house thats increased its value by 47000 times over in 10-11years.

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                  • yea because its a fucking ponzi propped up with gullable morons money.

                    tell us all how much crypto kea has invested in, its a solid bet cant go wrong according to you so you must have many thousands in it.

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                    • While housing is a ponzi supported using other peoples money by the government.

                      It is not about “me” you narcissist weirdo. It is about MARKETS. For fuck sake.

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                    • yes ponzi crypto markets and the ponzi reserve banking system used to inflate ALL prices, not just housing you clown.

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  20. Rents on the up again.

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    2:43 pm today
    New Zealand population grows to 5.27 million
    2:43 pm today

    AUCKLAND, NZ – MAY 29:Traffic on Queen street on May 29 2013.It’s a major commercial thoroughfare in the Auckland CBD, New Zealand’s main population center.

    Photo: 123rf.com

    New Zealand’s population has grown by almost three percent in the past year.

    Stats NZ has released its most recent population figures, showing there are now 5.27 million people living in Aotearoa.

    In the year ending September, the population grew by 138,000 people.

    Of that, the natural increase – the number of births minus deaths – was 19,300 people.

    Net migration – the number of migrants arriving minus those departing – was 118,800 people.

    The Māori population grew 1.5 percent – 13,100 people.

    The estimated Māori population is now 904,100 – which is 17.3 percent of the national population.

    The median age of Māori males is 25.8 and and for females it is 27.9 years.

    This is compared to the national median ages, which are 37.0 and 39.0 years respectively.

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      • lol what predictions was that birdy? the great collapse and everyone losing their houses and cant even give them away?
        yeah good predictering there bro, stick to making up stories about the gym and running.

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          • if you bought in at 500k, prices inflated to 1mil, dropped back to 700k and increased to 750k youre still ahead ya muppet.
            your delussions only apply to 2 years of fomo purchasing but your tiny bird brain thinks thats the entire market and every home owner.

            now go sit in your cry closet and sulk, you got it wrong bigly and your fantasy never came true. keep squawking tho youre bound to be a broken clock being right eventually.

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              • put the meth pipe down bro, you couldnt even predict the tide or the moon phases.
                your preductions are so far out youre now resorting to gaslighting to save face… so sad, now tell us a story about those 300kg weights youre lifting at the gym.

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  21. Should the policeman or lady, be called Dead Eye Dick!
    How the hell do you shoot someone who is cuddling up and hanging on to someone and holding a screwdriver to their neck?
    I presume it wasn’t going all cowboy, rather stand back at a distance sniper type, situation!

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  22. Decided to look into the origins of the Celtic battle horn, The Carnyx.
    From the chronologist D O’Gorman 1861.
    1059 AD.
    A great number of serpents are said to have assembled near Tournai (Belgium) when they divide and fight with such fury that one party entirely destroy the other. The remainder are killed by the peasantry. This affair was called the “Battle of the Serpents”.

    From there I searched for and found, in “The history of the four-footed beasts, Serpents and insects”, by Edward Topsel 14 -15th Century, this description:

    “The ancient Romans (as Vegetius writeth) carryed in all their Bands the Escutchion of a Dragon, to signifie their fortitude and vigilancy, which were born up by certain men called for that purpose Draconarii. And therefore when Constantius the Emperor entered into the City of Rome, his souldiers are said to bear up upon the tops of their spears, Dragons gaping with wide mouths, and made fast with golden chains and pearl, the winde whistling in their throats, as if they had been alive, threatning destruction, and their tails hanging loose in the air, were likewise by the winde tossed to and fro, as though they strove to come off from the spears, but when the winde was laid, all their motion was ended, whereupon the Poet saith:”

    When whistling winde in air ceast,
    The Dragons tamed then did rest.

    Repost of original,
    https://twitter.com/historyinmemes/status/1721314751844684215

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