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  1. I see Plod were very quick to whip around to the MOH Whistleblower’s home, arrest him on breach of privacy charges, “unauthorised disclosure and misuse of data” and bang him up in the slammer pending his date before a Judge.

    Pity Plod were not so quick to whip around to Ruthless Empire’s home, or Cris and Kru Kahui’s home or Kween Thompson’s home and arrest the suspected perpetrators and charge them over the deaths of these young souls.

    Somehow all the angst from the MOH seems out of proportion to me, compared to the lack of angst over death rates of young children in this country which seems much more serious than someone exposing the truth.

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    • TAH, It’s a pity the useless cnuts in charge of the NZ police didn’t rush around and arrest the Mosque killer when members of his own gun club informed them he wasn’t a suitable person to have a firearms license or let him use referees of his suitability for a license that he’d never even met, USELESS BASTARDS.
      Pigshit Ardern changed laws to online applications for a FAL and made it easier for the POS to get his license.

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    • Well the murder of innocent children is not a priority these days as is the importance of MOH whistleblowers, most people do not realise that. This is the new age of wokeness. Most child killers are of an ethnic race but it is only only cis white men create the issues with women, according to the Green spokesperson and leader, things have changed so much in this new age. BRING BACK the freaking old days if you ask me. I am done with this wokeness. When is Mark Mitchell going to remove the dear leaders cousin from office where he is receiving a HUGE taxpayer salary???? Absolutely USELESS typical new age man. Why have the new government not stepped in for that. Should be an easy task???? But who is there to replace him with????? Any suggestions?
      Rain for the next few days, so lovely to keep the water levels up///////
      Be safe out there today it’s wet and robbers of a nasty kind are out and about when they should be at school. Have a good day.

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        • Where to recruit them from ??

          The deck is stacked with woke, special people (female, darkies and even trannies) , as regional commanders and through the ranks, now.

          The talent pool lacks talent.
          Any recruitment has to be from outside.
          But where?
          The reach and influence of WEF ‘graduates’ is far and wide.
          The Western word is now riddled with them, like a termite infested house.

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    • Apparently Baby Ru’s family have form.

      ”A 2014 report by the Family Violence Death Review Committee, found Māori women were three times more likely to be victims of homicide, Māori children were 5.5 times more likely to be a victim of homicide and Māori men were five times more likely to be an offender of homicide.

      But Marama said “it’s “white cis men who cause violence in the world”?

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    • Surely, its public paid for information that should have been available;able and it’s not a criminal matter but a civil matter.

      Cindy’s still alive and well.

      This is a test of the Three Wise Men.
      Will they castigate the police or will they follow Cindy and become nazi’s like her.?
      I thought we had whistler blower protection in NZ.

      I await with baited breath.

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        • MOH claim single figures of excess deaths in NZ but US insurers show significant numbers so who do you believe, I trust US Insurers who have nothing to gain by showing unexpected death payments in excess of their usual experience, but MOH does have reason to manipulate as they see Nuremburg 2 on the horizon.

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    • Earlier tonight, the ministry said the staff member had no clinical background or expert vaccine knowledge, and there was no evidence vaccination was responsible for “excess mortality in New Zealand”.

      It’s alleged an individual downloaded a large amount of vaccine-related information, Te Whatu Ora chief executive Margie Apa said.

      “The data, as published on an overseas site, appears to have been anonymised. Analysis of the released data is ongoing, but work so far has not found any National Health Index Numbers or personally identifiable information.”

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      • “Vaccination is safe and effective, and everyone should keep up to date with their shots to protect themselves, whānau and their communities.”

        She assured people there was no evidence whatsoever that vaccination is responsible for excess mortality in New Zealand.

        When you tell lies eventually you will be censured for those lies.

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      • great post, I think this is a really a substantial threat to their censoreship and silence on any matters that shows harm or death from their experimental poison.
        The government and health department can easily diffuse this situation they find themselves in, simply release the data without names of the whole 12 million plus, we know this will never happen, the 2022 excess mortality they cannot hide, they can continue to hide what may have caused it. Will be an interesting court case, hope the guy has a top lawyer, the leaders could well have their arses into court, they clearly have no scientific credentials,
        Reti would appear to be a big pharma fan.

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      • Labour party TV (TV1 ) reported MOH scambling to recover their data – my understanding is downloading datat leaves the original data intact as the download was a copy. Is this TV1 bias – likely – or ignorance of what a download is – also likely.

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    • If one reads my 9:36 am comment in “Investigation Needed” quoting Guy Hatchard [sorry missed putting it into italics as quote] had major reservations as did VFF about the credibility, & seeing it as a major stuff up by Liz Gunn, in particular the quality of that “whistle blowers” data, & did not want anything to do with it.
      https://ysb.co.nz/investigation-needed/#comment-371063

      So now Guy Hatchard has done his report.

      ….. If health data shows that there is no harm from Covid vaccines why would the government deny access to the relevant data? ……
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      …. There were a number of charts displayed showing for example that some South Island vaccination sites had been disproportionately affected by deaths subsequent to vaccination.
      It was immediately clear from the names of the providers that these sites serviced the elderly, an obvious and unfortunate data bias which has garnered some criticisms. …..
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      ……. That doesn’t mean the data leak is invalid, a conspiracy theory, or irrelevant.
      There were some very real and concerning questions raised which need answers.
      The reaction of the Ministry of Health and the Minister actually points to a conspiracy of silence on their part, not to the whistleblower.
      We do have whistleblower protection legislation in New Zealand. It states that: …..

      https://hatchardreport.com/what-the-whistleblower-data-tells-us-about-the-new-zealand-ministry-of-health/

      The whistle blower protection of Labour Party design, say no more, as we will be “truly” protected by following the supporters of the “kindly” Saints below.

      Thank goodness we had Shaun Hendy & Siouxsie Wiles, Sir Ashley Bloomfield, Michael Baker, & the many hard working “Kind” honest public health officials, to explain how they wanted us to comply, as they still work at finding ways to gain even further compliance for the greater goodness of our health,
      Also to fully support incorporate Maori Knowledge of understanding in Science, especially in our New Zealand health education systems where nothing is to be questioned.
      No information, raw data is to be given, preferably not even made, unless it can be powhiri’ed into existence where it can be all powerful & true for all complicit Aoteearooaans

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  2. Wait, WTF?

    City Rail Link set to cost Auckland ratepayers $220m a year to operate once it opens in 2026.
    “The chickens are coming home to roost. The running costs of the City Rail Link alone are expected to account for about 10 per cent of rates paid by Aucklanders in the third year of the 10-year budget,” Brown said.

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        • No.
          In fact the latest from the expensive consultants was that it was to be a $40 billion
          tunnel to the airport !!!!

          This was the last proposal from deposed Mickey Mouse Wood, formerly MP for Mt Roskill, and married to Auckland hard-left councillor Julie ‘airy’ Fairey.

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      • No Lizzie, the light rail to airport is cancelled. This is the City Rail Link (CRL) which is a train loop connecting Britomart to Newmarket via Mt Eden, or something like that. It’s been under construction for years now. I mistakenly assumed running costs would be met by the revenue it generated, not the poor rate-payer who’s about to be sprung with congestion charges as well for driving the car.

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        • Wayne Brown stated last Friday he wants more people using busses and less central city car parks.
          He wants more inner city living and conversion of empty office space to residential.

          ALL pubic transport is heavily subsidised in NZ.

          a fair chunck of rail is long term closed in Auckland.eg
          Ōrākei, Meadowbank, Glen Innes, Panmure and Sylvia Park stations will be closed between 20 March 2023 to January 2024.

          Mt Eden Station has been closed for years.
          But there are men in Orange vests on walkie talkies ; so that is OK.
          Walkie talkies are like 1970s internet.
          I was there last week.
          Cant see any progress in a year.
          It is a massive ‘make work’ scheme

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      • I think it is ‘light rail’ (aka 19th century trams) up Dominion Rd which have been cancelled. Also maybe trams to the airport. Dunno for certain.

        With all the billion$ spent so far and all the holes having been dug all over the CBD druggies’ crash pads, I reckon it’s too late to cancel the ridiculous underground railway – so it’ll still be going ahead as a huge sink to pour ratepayers’ money into.

        As it is, Auckland is full of huge double decker buses driving around empty. Just imagine in the future what the idiotic underground railway will look like with all the offices closed down.

        They will probably introduce some sort of ‘conjestion charge’ in Auckland in an attempt to drive what few people want to go there into their stupid train system. But this won’t work and people will just avoid the city altogether and it will be abandoned to the addicts and the homeless.

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    • Saggy@0559

      Perhaps , and because they were always staunch advocates of the scheme (‘cos it was going to ‘save the planet’) , the NZ gweens and their at times rabid supporters on the ACC, should be asked to provide the $220 Million from their annual budget?

      I suspect that crickets would be chirping louder than their response…

      All noise, no responsibility…

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    • This was another project started by the treasonous azzhole, Johnny keys.
      It has fuckwit Steven Joyce fingerprints all over it.

      I went to a session on Friday where local MP Seymour had a presentation by Mayor W Brown.
      First time I have seen Brown in person.
      I was surprised at how caustic Brown was.
      We will see if his probable one term delivers results. He was 76 last year and would be 82 if he completed 2 terms.

      His regular praise of dizzy Desley Simpson – Councillor for Remmers and surrounds- wife of long term Notional party president Chump, Peter Goodfellow – former wife of Coromandel MP Scott Simpson- regular voter for higher expenditure and higher rates rather than fiscal restraint – had me flummoxed.
      Dizzy Desley is Deputy Mayor and could be in the running for Mayor after Brown.
      She is a spendthrift idiot and yet gets voted in again and again by the snobs and knobs of Remuera and surrounds.

      He was highly critical of Steven Joyce on two counts. Both valid.
      One was the Creation/Configuration of Auckland council. I have been a critic since day 1 ; in fact for more than a year before, as I saw it forming .
      the second was joyce’s MBIE.

      Auckland Council can not really touch the CCO that is Auckland Transport.
      A CCO is a Council Controlled Organisation.
      Except it is NOT controlled by Council and in fact insulated as set up by Key/Hide/Joyce
      AT – Akl transport – can go off and do fuckwit things — and they do in spades -and the funder of this – Council itself- has no control.
      Very messy.
      Don’t vote Notional.

      Those who support Steven Joyce on here – you know who you are – please write on the back of an stamp what his good credentials are.
      W Brown also criticised the Creation of MBIE – another fuckwit Steven Joyce Creation/abomination. Something I have had a jaundiced view on since day 1. It is a self fuelling, inefficient Wellywood bureaucracy.
      That a dildo was thrown at dildo S Joyce was very apt.

      The CRL is a shocker as I have mentioned on here and elsewhere. It is 2 fucking miles long . 3.2 km. It is fuck all and taking at least 8 years to build.
      The England- France Chunnel is over 30 miles or over 50 km and took 6 years and cost the same as the John Key fast tracked – ha ha – wee CRL rail tunnel
      The Öresund Bridge connects Denmark to Sweden and is 8 km long. It took 4 years to build. It has road and rail and the users pay- unlike the CRL.
      As I have mentioned, the US Trans continental railroad built in 6 years in the 1860s is over 3000 km , over the Sierra mountains and has multiple bridges and tunnels .

      It is like that Kunt J Keys has left big shit piles everywhere –
      -The Paris accord costing $$$billions a year and only increasing;
      -The UNDRIP that has created apartheid in NZ without any protests from HART or CARE;
      -the CRL

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  3. South Australia Omits ‘Christmas’ and ‘Australia Day’ From Public Holiday Legislation
    The legislation declared Easter Sunday as a public holiday and increased the number of public holidays in South Australia from 11 to 12..

    The South Australian government has declined to name Christmas Day, Australia Day, ANZAC Day, and Proclamation Day in the new public holiday legislation.

    The stated aim of the legislation was to declare Easter Sunday as a public holiday and increase the total number of public holidays in South Australia from 11 to 12.
    The Public Holidays Bill 2023 (pdf) mentioned Dec. 25, Dec. 26, Jan. 1, Jan. 26, and April 25 without providing names for these public holidays. Good Friday, Easter Saturday, Easter Sunday, and Easter Monday were named.
    The legislation repeals the Holidays Act 1910 (pdf), which references Christmas, Anzac Day, Proclamation Day, and Australia Day.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/world/south-australia-omits-christmas-and-australia-day-from-public-holiday-legislation-5539559?utm_source=Aomorningbriefnoe&src_src=Aomorningbriefnoe&utm_campaign=Aomb-2023-12-04&src_cmp=Aomb-2023-12-04&utm_medium=Aoemail&est=Hx8KuDn7UZKY3kTmXpzY0OpljZbsR11r1r4txS1wtQCDalHhhuGn2q8GuBhF5qU%3D

    “Somehow, South Australia has survived for 110 years with the Holidays Act without including these names. Somehow we have managed to work out that we have those holidays on those days,” Ms. Close said.

    “Further, amendments Nos 15 and 16 are seeking to prevent the public holiday on Australia Day being moved. It is late, it is after dinner, I am not indulging in culture wars.

    “We have 26 January. It is the day that New South Wales was founded by the British. It is the day we have chosen as Australia Day. It is in here. I am not interested in getting into this ridiculous dog whistle of having a different debate within this. This is about worker entitlements.”

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  4. All the whingers are coming out of the woodwork. Thse who had favourite projects that depended on you and me funding them.
    The water pump crowd, the film makers, et ll. Hardeb the fuck up you parasites,
    Govt.’s answer should be,
    We won you lost. piss off.
    signed Micheal Cullen.

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  5. I posted about this late last night so it seems everyone missed it.
    While the msm are still full of stories about the death of baby Ru they are completely ignoring the death of an extra 279 0-4 year olds in 2022 than in 2021. 76% above the long term average.
    I wonder about a couple of things: could the injected substance have anything to do with this and does SB give a shit about it?
    https://www.aussie17.com/p/startling-surge-in-deaths-of-new
    Now I guess it is possible that this is misinformation given that it seems to have come directly from government sources.

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    • theres descrepancies in other age groups and also the total aswell. the total is out by almost 600 deaths.
      imo id believe official stats nz over some overworked staffer doing oia requests

      people make mistakes, i suggest you make a better worded OIA request and also get comparable data for previous 5yrs. without that youre a nutter that should go running to liz gunn

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      • I don’t see where you get the 600 difference in totals from. However I went to the stats data site myself and it is still showing 249 for 0-4 while the OIA is showing 608. So you are saying that this is just a clerical error? I note that the requester asked for the data to be checked. It is obviously possible that an error has been made but excess deaths are occurring across all age brackets.

        Edit: the data on the post goes back to 2000 if you have a look.

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  6. Back in the day, Airlines also competed as to who had the best flight attendants. In the final round there were 2 female flight attendants left, an American girl for PanAm and a French girl for Air France.
    After dozens of questions the score is equal and the chairman of the jury explains that one final question will decide the winner.
    He begins with the American girl and says: Imagine yourself being on a plane that has just picked up a 100 marines who have been deployed for 6 months, and haven’t seen a woman all that time. The plane has a major problem and crashes on an uninhabited island, killing the rest of the crew. So there you are: alone, with a 100 marines. What do you do?
    The girl thinks for some seconds and says: I’ll probably choose the strongest marine to be my ‘boyfriend’, so he can protect me from the rest. Okay, her answer is noted.
    Then, the French girl comes in and is asked the same question. She looks real puzzled, so the chairman, realizing English is not her mother language, asks her “You do understand the question?”
    (French accent) “Yes, I do understand ze question, but I don’t see ze
    problem

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    • Liz Gunn was also suppose to using “her power” to also wise up Winston Peters & has had a few days.
      Not that I actually want to hear from her.
      Where is Liz Gunn? if she is not already in the gun by the Police.

      Noting that above neither Guy Hatchard or VFF that may have known of, perhaps even seen some of the data.
      They both seem to have major concerns of credibility & the quality of the data.
      Posted above “The Hatchard Report” @ 7:52 am.
      https://ysb.co.nz/have-your-say-1686/#comment-371331

      Also leads back to where quoted, Hatchard put up a good comment on Igor Chudov’s substack which pointed out major discrepancies to understanding the whistle-blower’s data.

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            • i understand what it does vikey, to a non farming curtain fume huffing ole chap like you it may be mind boggling and easily misunderstood.

              my point was there is far cheaper alternatives that can do the same thing except set invisible fences but hey if some farmer whinging how tight money is thinks spending a small fortune on tech that dosent recoup anywhere near the outlay then they can go for it and waste their money.

              youre obviously one of those fuckwits that thinks because its new and spruiked as revolutionary it must be good and everyone needs it.
              tell me, how does drawing a line on a phone screen to set cows fence work when paddocks grow different from front to back etc? poor quality and highquality pastures differ, topped vs untopped… you still need to go out the paddock if youre a good farmer to keep finger on the pulse. same with farm managers and owners who never step foot in the cowshed but whinge scc is too high or getting grades.
              you cant run a farm to its full potential from home or a screen, yeah youll have a functioning farm but not running at full efficiency.

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      • Thanks Ross12 :- A good point.
        It is the gaps, that some find, like trying to cross a muddy stream, & it becomes stirred up.
        All good when you stand on the rock, but to where the next step to find & balance is not so easy.
        So it is a matter of finding the pattern to where the next series of rocks are, to be balanced & based. 🙂

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      • I read your earlier post S1. I posted that Liz Gunn video as information. She appears to be very naive of the darkness of some human behaviour. She seems to believe all people will do the right thing even ancient, slippery politicians who are there for their own benefit.

        I am very concerned for the whistleblower, that he has been hung out to dry by her naivety, that everything will be resolved once the data was exposed to the world. The left are nasty and vindictive when you expose they cheated. I do hope Winston Smith has excellent legal advice.

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        • Dizzy Lizzy Gunn is an idiot and political bimbo.
          I have said this before and maintained it from the start.

          What did she ever think the outcome would be?
          has she been asleep for the past 6 years of tyranny.

          Your last (2nd) para WG. Very well stated.

          Anyone else would have not shown the face of this person and altered the voice.
          although given there are few people who would have has full DBA access, it would be simple deduction. But no attempt to disguise. Duh!

          Gunn is an idiot and deserves to learn a serious lesson.
          Given that she worked in media for years and is a trained lawyer this has been unforgivable.

          She has set back valid criticism of the VaXXX by a long shot.
          She had feedback from multiple parties that this was not a viable data set from which to draw unassailable conclusions.
          But went off half cocked.

          The world we live in now:
          From Eds other article this morning re CHC Shooting
          …While legal to do so in their countries, New Zealanders are subject to extremely harsh penalties, even getting harsher sentences that rapists and people actually possessing child pornography….

          So yes, things are out of kilter.
          Maori killers get home D.
          People who merely watched the CHC video when it was not illegal (first 3 days) got prison time.

          the 56 year old whistle blower dude is clearly English. He may get prison time and even deported at the end of it.

          Downtick me if you like, but this was the path Gunn has been on for two years and it is one hell of an explosion.
          The end of Vanishing Point. (1971 film)

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        • Sorry wg as busy on other things so only belatedly watched the vid clip.
          Pleased see that a number of links to other sources were placed that.

          So it is what will Winston Peters make of this?
          I hope he is able to see the other substacks that do more cut through, & shows context.

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      • Liz Gunn is in hiding apparently.
        Steve Kirsch says he has been analysing the data for weeks and it is sound but the interpretation is not. He says his account with the data on it has been taken down.
        Jikkyleaks say they have found the problem with the interpretation. The data is sound. But probably best not to jump to conclusions right now. I think it is a time will tell situation.

        However, what does stand out is the MOH’’s grossly disproportionate reaction. Makes me ask what are they hiding? If the whistleblower’s data is so wrong, then just release the correct data. Oh they can’t because they have been lying? It will be interesting to see how Chris Luxon and his brand new coalition govt handle this. So far 0/10 for swamp dweller Shane Reti.

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        • jeneral, tell us how its a disproportionate reaction?

          accessing, stealing and distributing personal health records is a bullshit thing to do even if it has had personal identifiers removed.
          if it were only a handful of citizens data stolen then yes very disproportionate but this covers hundreds of thousands/ millions of citizens data.

          its only percieved as disproportionate by nutters who so badly want these feelz claims to be true.
          if you reverse it and say bloomfailed was getting arrested and charged you lot would be celebrating while covid karen and ken be screaming its disproportionate response.

          i agree tho that the govt could release all data and explain it in laymans terms to the public to end all suspicion and nutter claims.

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          • The personal information of what is supposed personal info, I doubt was even there.
            It would be a huff & puff by the media & Ministry to incense the sheeple to feelz the Ministry has their back.
            It was in any case all atomized & anonymized.

            This part should have maybe taken legal advice on just to be sure.
            Probably the only part that may feel exposed, are the geographical vaccination sites that can be figured, but even the people there are anonymized, but I guess they will know who they are & maybe too easily tracked.
            But the vaccinators were only given numbers, to keep them anonymous.

            The named towns & cities, to name or not to name?

            But fuck it, read how they intend to conduct the inquiry! as I posted the other day.
            All info will be kept in confidence from the Covid minister on down.
            Ardern of no value, does not even have that quiet interview with the Inquiry.
            No confidence from me, in like how just what did Bloomfield say to Hipkins, as they will keep their stories.

            Wind the bastards up, drip-feed, over time, keep the pressure & stress up, but I know it has to skilfully done.
            We can only play with the cards we are given, so nothing is perfect.
            Persistence to out last them, so some may crack.

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          • To IAASB @ 9.29. Whistleblowers supposedly have protection in this country. You don’t arrest whistleblowers for being wrong. Nor do you issue injunctions against the data being reproduced both here and in other countries if it is a nothing burger. Echoes of Brenton Tarrant manifesto. You are welcome to disagree with my opinion of course but do try to keep a civil tongue in your head.

            I am not a supporter of Liz Gunn. Like many others I have been suspicious of her motives from the start but on the off-chance that she may actually have uncovered the truth, I’m going to keep an open mind. I certainly wouldn’t trust anything that comes out of the MoH most of whom probably got exemptions!

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            • jeneral, if the claims dont stack up and have just been misinterpretted or exagerated then theyre not a whistleblower just a fraudulent thief.
              can also be a whistleblower without the theft of personal data.

              im happy to be proven wrong on this but with the available info imo it all appears to be bullshit instigated by nutters.

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        • I am somewhat surprised at the MOH calling for arrests and all that stuff, once Waikato hospital was hit with a cyber attack and I don’t recall what happened to the people who hit the information which had everyones personal information, including staff pay rates and hospital information of patients. Anyone out there could post what happened to the cyber attack people? All computers were down in the hospital and I remember due to having an operation at the time!!!!!!!

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    • Liz Gunn potentially took 27000 or so votes off NZ First – (probably costing them an MP?)

      Then she wants Winston to back the whistleblower? Really?

      Wonston never signed up to back people who commit crimes. The guy didn’t just blow the whistle – he stole data. Whilst I actually support the bloke’s actions in principle and support his motivation, he has committed a crime.

      What kind of position would it put Winston and NZ First in, supporting someone who has committed a criminal act?

      The best the guy can hope for is a light sentence from the courts – which is unfortunately, unlikely.

      Liz Gunn is a total shit for even trying to lay that on Winston – any respect I had for her evaporated a while back.

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  7. When this whistle-blower dude appears in court this morning it might be a good idea for him to get on court records that he is not suicidal, has NO intention of self harm in any form, and is currently of good health himself.

    Just an idea.
    We don’t need any Epsteining or Arkanciding.

    You know where you stand now folks. Minister of Health , Shame Reti has said there are no excess deaths.
    That is your baseline. Dont get you hopes up of truth and reconciliation. Ain’t happening .
    ————–
    Official line:
    There is no evidence that vaccination is responsible for excess mortality in New Zealand.
    More than 12.6 million vaccines have been administered to eligible Kiwis and over 3300 people have died from Covid-19.

    Only four deaths have been possibly linked to adverse reactions from vaccination.
    ——————–

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    • My response to the official line is — how can you say that when autopsies are not done (you changed the law on autopsies for sudden death in 2022 !) ? Also it is almost certain that the people pushing this line are part of the 11,000 who got exemptions.

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      • 11k never got exemptions just a temporary repreive to stop the health system collapsing. the “exemption” only lasted a few weeks to give them a chance to get jabbed or resign.

        just another nutter spurting exagerated bullshit

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            • The 11k got exemptions probably because they knew the mRNA was untested and untried, bypassing the normal 10-15 year approval process, and therefore posed a serious risk. I was told exactly that the week it arrived in NZ, by several medical professionals.

              You seem to be very cavalier about calling people nutters. How will you respond if you lose a member of your family, or have them crippled, through someone else’s self-serving and criminally negligent actions, and get no justice, acknowledgement, and no ACC. And then we on here say to you: “Nah SB, get over it, let it go, move on, you are a nutter!”? It would be highly insensitive, bordering on psychopathic.

              When people who caused deaths and injuries through malicious criminal negligence and self serving actions, and are still walking free, it is difficult to move on.

              But if you excuse their crimes, walk away, and give up fighting for justice, a piece of your humanity dies with it. You need to think about that.

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              • the only ppl i give a fuck about like that are unjabbed.
                im happy for other family members and friends to suffer consequences of their actions, theyre adults its their choice they didnt harrass us to get jabbed i never harrassed them not to so it is what it is.

                theres cautious and then theres nutters… then complete and utter full blown nutters.
                several ysb folk are the later, many incl myself fall between cautious and nutter. liz gunn and steve kirsch theyre on another level again, theyre off the charts and to the moon.

                ive got no problems with being skeptical but i draw the line at latching onto every dumbarse nutter claim thats clearly a load of bullshit.
                most ysb idiots and other nutters seem to think telegram and other nutter info sites are 100% truthful and never wrong.

                you of all ppl dylan should understand the pitfalls of confirmation bias and the effects emotions have on crap like this.
                if the ysb nutters removed emotion and bias from their thinking theyd see this in a whole nutha light and realise how bullshit this moar really is.

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                • I agree that vaccinated people only have themselves to blame. But it does not stop me helping the willing to see the light or seek help to detoxify.

                  But you still don’t get it, stupid boy. I’m talking about those that carried out the crimes. Injecting someone with a toxic vaccine, knowing it to be harmful, and/or who should have exercised caution to get certainty that it was safe, is no different than some bartender plying a total drunk who can hardly stand with more alcohol and then said drunk drives on the wrong side of the road and wipes out a family member.

                  Or someone overtaking without checking for oncoming cars and rams into a car driven by someone you know.

                  If they knew the mRNA could cause death or injury and we condone that by turning a blind eye, then we are not human.

                  And we are talking about human life here. The corruption of the govt, the debt, the pocket pissing, skimming, backhanders and so on are one thing.

                  But the deaths, and the continuing deaths are another. And if they get away with it this time, they can do it again.

                  If one of your family or children gets wiped out by a truck driver who has a heart attack from the jabs, are you going to tell Mrs SB to just move on? I doubt it.

                  The mRNA affects everyone, the continuing deaths affect everyone, and will keep doing so for 2 or 3 generations. The death toll has exceeded WW2 levels. But the implications for democracy are far greater.

                  And I’ve never had any time for, and don’t approve of Liz Gunn. Gunn goes off half cocked, shoots people in the foot, and has made enemies of several freedom groups and people. VFF, RCR, Sue Grey, Electoral Commission, for starters.

                  I’m not even sure which team she is batting for. as she seems like a right wing version of Ardern, with a similar size ego, and everything is about her, and everything she touches turns to crap.

                  And like Ardern, she is prone to fanciful statements.
                  “1,000,000 people will vote for me.”
                  “If I’m voted in I’ll have tax at 1%”
                  “I was late filing my party applications, so I’ll take the electoral commission to court.”
                  “I’m going to release the MOAR” – An announcement of an announcement.

                  With friends like her, who would need enemies.

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                • As someone who helped run a Telegram site I can say hand on heart that we were always incredibly careful about trying to ensure that what we posted was factual.

                  I would say we (possibly) got caught out on a couple of posts amongst thousands.

                  Almost certainly more truthful than any MSM.

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      • Ross. I don’t think that you are correct about a law change. Doctors usually provide the cause of death for the Death Certificate. Where they cannot or will not the death is referred to a Coroner who has a discretion as to whether or not to authorize a PM. There has been no 2022 change to the Coroner’s Act

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      • I”ll give you an uptick as you surely need it.
        to go with the one you give yourself.
        How many names are you logged in as now?

        You are so jealous of people that applied themselves and build up assets like houses, motorhomes, holiday homes, businesses, big boys toys.
        You are stuck with temporary(illegal) lodging and temporary income and fuck all to fall back on.
        That is reality.
        And yet you throw stones.
        You’re an egg.

        Then you have your nasty-nicknames like a 7 year old does.
        Colitis, Faggy and so on.
        It is feeble.
        Go away little loser.
        When you have to tell everyone on an anonymous blog about your shoe purchases -and you are not Imelda Marcos – that is a crying shame.

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  8. So the Three Wise Men need a new Health Minister already.

    Bhaaaa
    Who is surprised. Just another Phizer corp wally like so many of them.
    Frightened of the truth and already bending to the bureaucracy.
    As they all do.
    Too dumb to ask the real question just swallow the cool aid.
    Another failure already. Another Nat.

    Oh dear what to do?

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  9. A 56-year-old man has appeared in court on Monday morning after being accused of leaking large amounts of Te Whatu Ora vaccination data online.

    Barry Young, 56, was arrested on Sunday and appeared before Wellington District Court judge Andrew Nicholls on Monday.

    He faces one charge of dishonestly accessing Te Whatu Ora databases with the maximum penalty being up to seven years of imprisonment.

    He has not entered a plea.

    A public gallery full of supporters stood and clapped when Young entered the courtroom. Judge Nicholls told them off, saying “any more disruption and I’ll ask you to leave”.

    Young will reappear at 2:15pm when a decision will be made on whether he gets bail.

    He yelled “freedom” as he left the courtroom.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/12/former-te-whatu-ora-worker-barry-young-appears-in-court-accused-of-illegally-accessing-vaccine-database.html

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    • Initially police did not oppose bail, but have now switched.

      Police oppose bail
      They claim he could interfere with evidence.
      Most likely some conditions about communications, computers etc & whatever applied if he gets bail.

      All normal as Whattty Orraa has your back with a very safe & effective phase 3 trial experimental medicine under Emergency Use Approval EUA.
      Roll up, roll up. for your granny’s life saving & death defying shots.

      4th December 2023 … “Vaccination is safe and effective, and everyone should keep up to date with their shots to protect themselves, whanau, and their communities.
      We assure people there is no evidence whatsoever that vaccination is responsible for excess mortality in New Zealand.” ….

      It must be good for you, as anonymity is assured.

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    • Yes they are going turn him into a martyr,he is now trending on twitter,
      “A public gallery full of supporters stood and clapped when Young entered the courtroom. Judge Nicholls told them off, saying “any more disruption and I’ll ask you to leave”.”
      Like him or hate him, you are going to see much more of what this guys actions have started to expose.
      The new minted government is pulling on a fight they cannot win, where’s Winny? getting barb wire burn sitting on the fence.

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    • Bn :–
      It is strange that they are not keeping any form of record for this 2023 year, but still publicly pushing the vaxx.
      If the answer was a big fat zero, nil, then they would be showing that, to later show it in the “skite basket” of success.

      I see a little bit of work on this page, that is;—
      … Revised: 21 November 2023 ….
      https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/Consumers/Safety-of-Medicines/Vaccine-safety.asp

      Remember when;— It is sort of like when a record was kept who got covid, as initially the vaxxed numbers being low in comparison to the unvaxxed.
      All to prove by their numbers that the unvaxxed were dangerous to the community.
      Then that suddenly was stopped.
      The numbers were showing a problem, & even deeper still, the vaxx did not stop one getting covid.
      Then even worse, the vax did not stop transmission.
      But, but, hospitalization problems would be fewer if one is vaxxed, then those lying numbers started coming up again.
      and so the ongoing saga being foisted on us was ever changing “move along” “squirrel over there” etc …. with no real explanation.

      Well they explain, we are expert, we know what we are doing, so accept it, & take your medicine, & to look, question, seek an answer based on, oh well that is old past it information, but you will be dealt with if you continue on that track.

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  10. A failure waiting to happen.

    Can you expect the fat lazy Nephews to get off the couch tomorrow, or any other day for that matter to support this. Meanwhile, all the hard working Maori will be at their place of employment, trying to eke out a living.

    And we pay, handsomely, these scribbled faced Twats to carry this crap out.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/national-maori-action-day-rush-hour-travel-disruption-as-te-pati-maori-calls-for-protests/BG227C3YWVHGHHN3WNDSLB6QBU/

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    • It is about turning the world back 250 years and bringing back serfdom, an upper class and no middle class.
      the upper class will have its own 5 or so levels. As the French and English had then.
      The climate change shit is to remove toys like jetskis and leisure craft.
      You will have basics all run on controlled electricity.

      The Maori trouble makers will be happy with this – until they realise they will lose their Lexus and Range Rover and be serfs.
      Ah crap.
      Useful idiots.

      Those blurry Ruskies are not playing ball either.

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  11. BB@1229

    Taking ‘The world back into caves is EXACTLY what Klaus, Gates, Soros et al want, with them in charege of course.

    Based on previous WEF etc. actions, one must now wonder about the life-expectancy of the ‘Rebel’ Sultan…

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  12. ““This national protest is in direct response to the Government changes that seek to rapidly dismantle three generations worth of work under an agenda that blatantly disregards the place of Māori in Aotearoa and looks to marginalise us as tangata whenua,” a copy of the pānui supplied to teaonews.co.nz on Sunday says.”

    It sounds like he wants special treatment based on the race that he identifies with (even though his blood is significantly less than pure).

    Is this good for nation-building? One people, one nation and all that. Or does this fellow want to be the “bumiputera of Aotearoa”?

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    • rol@1312

      On the basis of the article, it will now be interesting to see which way the NZMSM jump on this ( suspect pro-TPM and against the incoming coalition) , and what action the (Yet to be appointed, apparently) ‘Speaker of the new Parliament will take in response.

      Hopefully the ‘Speaker will be aware of the situation and so not allow TPM to participate in events in the ‘House (Which will of course, send them crying to the supporters about ‘Racism’) , but NZ being NZ, I suspect that an excuse will be made so that they don’t have to swear allegiance.

      It could be an interesting day…

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      • Gerry Brownlee is to be sworn in tomorrow as Speaker.

        There can be no alternative to upholding the Crown during swearing in to become a sitting MP in our Parliament no matter what the maoris political view is. Oh, and remove your hat inside!!!

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    • They are not going to forego their seats and more importantly their pay. They will, therefore, take the oath with absolute insincerity. This should constitute some form of contempt, but can’t be proved, so it will be let slide.

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  13. Rob MacCulloch: NZ’s MainStream Media is deeply manipulative. It now wants to overthrow the new govt

    My mother used to tell me a story about how the daughter of a prominent family who owned a large media outlet had applied for journalism school. At the interview they asked her if she had any relatives working in the business. She was young and told the truth. She said her uncle was the owner and CEO of that outlet. She was promptly rejected.

    On another note, the reason I started this blog was because the MainStream Media (MSM) began rejecting my articles it saw as critiques of Labour & Greens, and accepting ones that were critiques of National, ACT & NZ First. The articles it did publish were edited without my permission, often distorting meaning, and then published under my name without me seeing the changes (much like Radio NZ was caught for “inappropriate editing” of Reuters articles about Ukraine). Regards media interviews, they were again heavily edited to distort meaning.

    I now regard the NZ MainStream Media as running manipulative stories across a range of issues – as trying to push a “narrative”. If you don’t agree with that narrative, it will paint you as a morally awful person. Here are some examples:

    https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/rob-macculloch-nz-s-mainstream-media-is-deeply-manipulative-it-now-wants-to-overthrow-the-new-govt?postId=a42efab0-ddb2-450f-af71-0812fbd6f14f&utm_campaign=bdfbe86a-63d8-4806-b535-cd303d830b6b&utm_source=so&utm_medium=mail&utm_content=572d9f47-5a2d-4515-8867-f978cd8fffc4&cid=0e30c3c6-5fa5-4aad-8fbb-f511907bcec4

    yeah well that is obvious to anyone with any thought process.

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  14. Because of my aversion to watching Liz Gunn I never watched the whole MOAR video. Therefore I missed the top10 batch details.
    Barry Young claims that these batches were spread over the entire population not just the elderly. Without age data being provided of course this can’t be verified this but if he is correct this data is absolutely devastating.

    Batch ID 1: Total Vaccinated 711, Death Count 152, 21.38% Dead
    Batch ID 8: Total Vaccinated 221, Death Count 38, 17.19% Dead
    Batch ID 3: Total Vaccinated 310, Death Count 48, 15.48% Dead
    Batch ID 4: Total Vaccinated 364, Death Count 37, 10.16% Dead
    Batch ID 6: Total Vaccinated 1006, Death Count 101, 10.04% Dead
    Batch ID 2: Total Vaccinated 1018, Death Count 98, 9.63% Dead
    Batch ID 7: Total Vaccinated 38, Death Count 3, 7.89% Dead
    Batch ID 72: Total Vaccinated 5882, Death Count 278, 4.73% Dead
    Batch ID 62: Total Vaccinated 18173, Death Count 831, 4.57% Dead
    Batch ID 71: Total Vaccinated 11019, Death Count 498, 4.52% Dead
    Statistical chance of this being natural 100billion to 1
    If this data is wrong in some way Fatty Ora need to show us the evidence. Dismissing this as misinformation
    is totally unacceptable. There is evidence from overseas that some batches are deadly so it is certainly possible that this data is correct. Come on Shane Reti front up with the data.

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    • so pfizer only produced batches of what… 1litre of vax at a time?
      i call bullshit, batches will be in the order of 10s or hundreds of thousands per run.

      why dont you nutters do your own oia requests instead of relying on skewed data fabricated or misinterpretted by other nutters and grifters?
      its very very simple via fyi.org to do oia requests.

      still i can agree that the simple solution to quell all this nutter bullshit is to release the info.
      big problem with that tho is what will you nutter losers do if they did release it and it didnt show you what you wanted to see?
      oh yeah i know… reeeee cover up, its lies, reeeee thats not the right data, reeeee show us the data showing its killed 20% of kiwis reeeeeee

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      • NZDSOS have repeatedly requested the data but they won’t release it.
        Running off at the mouth again making assumptions.
        I for one would be happy if accurate data was released and it showed the vax was safe though I am not holding my breath. Logic says that if they had data which proved their case it would have been released long ago.

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    • Plunket will be like some of the other MSM.
      He is propped up by Others and they will not like his ranting eventually.
      Past his usefulness
      Bad attitude towards others opinions.
      He is a mouth piece for the nasty these days.
      <ight even sucumbe to his multiple jabs. His heart issues didn't teach him anything.
      He is just another wanker in the spectrum.

      Kinds remionds me of John the honerable Banks. another plonker with a bad attitude towards otheres.

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      • Plunket is a breath of fresh air. I listen to him and Laws most days. Devlin, I can’t stand the little ferret. They need to ditch him smartly and put me in there. Hunty’s 1-4 talkback. The ratings would be through the roof.

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        • I had you pegged for more intelligence. Sadly I will now have to reassess that and put you back at Kea’s level,
          Plunket the plonker.

          The man is a dogmatic fool justifying wat others do rather than take a good hard look at things. fill ya head with his garbage.

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  15. Has come to my mailbox.

    Dear Winston
    Your time has come to stand up for the people of New Zealand and to show your true allegiance for freedom, truth and justice.

    It’s also time for you to callout those in Government who deliberately perpetratrated this unforgivable, and unforgettable, demise upon the people of New Zealand, in return for money.

    Genocide is now in your face, and our face.
    What are you going to do about it?
    “We The People” want answers and a plan of action from you right now.

    You need to make this a priority today, before the people rise up in anger and dispell the Government.

    I expect that you will ensure that the Police stand down from this point, and that you will guarantee the safety of Liz Gunn and the Whistle-blower.

    You were made Deputy Leader first, for a reason, so I beg of you to use your powers appropriately.

    Thank you for your attention.
    And may God be with you as you fight the demons on our behalf.

    AND SEYMOUR CAN ADD HIS NAME TO THAT AS WELL.

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  16. Muriel Newman: We are witnessing a remarkable turnaround in New Zealand politics

    Despite what the media have been saying, putting together a reform agenda of such detail and importance in less than three weeks – to finally shut the door on the destructive Ardern era – is an outstanding achievement.

    To their credit, they have also mapped out how the parties will not only work together but resolve their differences without destabilising the Government and the country.

    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/muriel-newman/muriel-newman-we-are-witnessing-a-remarkable-turnaround-in-new-zealand-politics/

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  17. BAIL GRANTED FROM 1:00PM TOMORROW IN WHISTLEBLOWER CASE

    The judge in the case considered the bail matter argued for by Mathew Hague [Frontline Law] and the opposition to bail argued by the Police.

    The Police earlier today sought a search warrant to access information stored on a cloud service, and it’s believed that the reason bail is granted from 1:00pm tomorrow, is to allow the Police to complete that task. 1TB [Terrabyte] of information is expected to be recovered from the storage device/s.

    Bail conditions will include being unable to use electronic devices capable of accessing the Internet.

    The charge relating to accessing government data without permission carries a maximum sentence of 7 years.

    Barry Young will reappear on the 18th of December, where he is expected to enter a plea.

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    • 1 Terabyte is a massive amount of data .
      Someone is exaggerating. likely the cops.
      The dudge wont have a clue.

      all pubic servants will be under orders to make his life hell.
      Cops, Dept Health, Corrections (ha ha, ironic name )
      They will try to bang him up over Xmas,.
      Matthew Hague is a good choice for lawyer.

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    • Thanks for the update, Braybots. My immediate thought was surely the charge of “accessing government data without permission” won’t stand if working with the data was part of his job? And that data is a horse that has already bolted halfway round the world!

      Also good to see you put up the Damien De Ment post. Quite the revelation. I saw it on the White Rose site but wasn’t as quick as you! All the data you could wish for in order to compare notes. Info for the WHO but not for us, eh? I hope Barry Young’s lawyer is aware of this and is equipped to take down the criminals in the previous government and beyond if this data is indeed found to be sound. He’ll have a fierce battle on his hands. Maybe Winston Peters has a few surprises up his sleeve which would help?

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  18. …. New Zealand whistleblower who shared anonymized data containing dates of COVID vaccinations and dates of death, where applicable. ……
    .
    …. A lot of things happened since then. First, I spoke with Steve Kirsch, who assured me that the data was genuine and the whistleblower was sincere. …..
    .
    ….. This information was offered to other groups before (see VFF’s statement) ….
    .
    ….. My previous questions and comments about Liz Gunn’s statements about nursing home deaths and data quality still apply, with one exception: —
    the partial nature of the data is explained by the fact that some shots were not paid through the system that Barry Young was supposedly administering. (I hope more clarity emerges).

    https://www.igor-chudov.com/p/update-nz-whistleblower?r=o7iqo

    From that quoted last sentence.
    It actually begs the question, who else, the source of the money, how much per vaccine did that cost?
    Choccy fish & buckets of KFC for finding the answer to that one.?

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    • I do believe that the truth will emerge, and that the NZ Government will look like idiots at the end of this. I wonder if Winston may use this to further destroy the Ardern cult. One would hope so.

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    • rol, same thinking
      Another golden opportunity to reveal all the information, raw data.
      It would seem to be a dead cert of a lotto ticket for a decade of staying in power.

      Tragically I can not see any one putting that together, except maybe Winston.
      Has he got the power to slip past those controllers? & make the call;–
      “full steam ahead, & damm the torpedoes” to drive that oak stake through that conniving heart.

      But any dilly dally now, will show them as bad, even worse than Ardern & her crew.!

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      • Great oppourtunity to rid the country of Labour, Nats and the Greens but and its a big but the Nats were complicit as was Seymour. They all voted for the jabs, the lockdowns and so on.
        Both labour and the Nats have track records years and years long of squashing and hiding and lying about what the govt. service does and what their own behaviour was or is.

        Nonne of this will be stopped until we have written constitution that sets the rules for the govt.

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  19. https://preview.mailerlite.com/n5l7b3b0x0/2362175767787346557/y9g4/

    “Why Did the Ministry of Health Whistleblower Publish the New Zealand Vaccine Health Data?

    Behind the concerns of a NZ MoH database analyst which led him to become a whistleblower and land up in the courts are some very serious scientific questions indeed. These relate to the health outcomes of ordinary New Zealanders and call into doubt the integrity of Medsafe and Te Whatu Ora (Ministry of Health).

    It now appears clear from the comments of Margie Apa, CEO of Te Whatu Ora (who has a degree in public admin) that the unprecedented record high rate of NZ excess deaths is no longer being vigorously denied, rather she has assured the public:

    “There is no evidence whatsoever that vaccination is responsible for excess mortality in New Zealand.”

    “Distressingly, the media, the government and Te Whatu Ora have failed to address the substance of the whistleblower’s concerns and the valid scientific reasons to acknowledge them.

    Instead he has been charged in a court with the offence of “dishonestly accessing vaccination data”. None of them have told the public that accessing vaccination data was actually his job at MoH. He was doing his job, spotted a concerning red flag, and went public after much heart searching about the inaction of his employer whose job it is to protect public health.”

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    • …….”yep its on FB so don’t moan your ases off.”…….

      It’s not a matter of you using Facebook links that worries anyone…….rather it’s the fact that there’s only a 50/50 chance that they’re not broken or lead to some shit about signing up to Zuckerberger’s digital tracking & spy service.

      This one worked & was quite interesting! Hallelujah & praise the Gods of Cyberspace.

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          • “The way to see by Faith is to shut the Eye of Reason.”

            Benjamin Franklin

            Once you get your head around this concept beliefs in Islam, Climate Change, Christianity & fairies at the bottom of the garden are easy to understand. 🙂

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            • Faith by definition is unreasonable. Otherwise it’s not faith. Let’s look at the theory of the Big Bang ( minus the James Webb developments) We are asked to accept that the whole universe was concentrated into a singularity that essentially took up no space. “Extrapolating this cosmic expansion backwards in time using the known laws of physics, the models describe an increasingly concentrated cosmos preceded by a singularity in which space and time lose meaning (typically named “the Big Bang singularity”).[5]” from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

              Now to most people that too is unreasonable. What existed before it? Where did the matter come from? Was it created or did it spontaneously emerge? Philosophers ask the same question about God. Yet one is considered accepted science, the other fantasy. And yet proof of either is similarly elusive and equally hard to fathom. It’s also a bit like consciousness. Are we just the sum total of our brain, ( and thus could we be replicated in a laboratory) or does our mind exist in some ways apart from the chemical components of the tissue that makes up the brain. Religion for me is more than just some “holy” book says. It’s a questioning of these types of issues that may or may not allow for existence beyond our experience. The customs and traditions of the religion are mere trappings and of no consequence to the essential question of is there an “other”.

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  20. In the second part of his preview of 2024, David Hargreaves examines whether a combination of new Government policies, rampant migration and an enlivened housing market could undermine efforts to get the economy on a sound footing.

    Can you imagine the combined total populations of Invercargill, Nelson, Gisborne and Whanganui all deciding to get into planes and heading off somewhere? That would be a lot of people on the move right there – and quite an impact if they all decided to go to the same place.

    Well, this also happens to be about the same number (it’s in excess of 200,000) of non-NZ citizens that arrived into this country in the 12 months to September. That’s more people than live in Hamilton. It’s more people than live in Tauranga.

    Are we going to keep expanding our population at this rate? And what happens if we do? This for me is the ticking timebomb as we look towards the dawning of 2024. This for me is the number one issue by a mile for this country in the coming year and beyond.

    Undoubtedly the (uncontrolled?) surge of migrant workers into New Zealand this year has helped to take heat out of our labour market. That’s been helpful for the Reserve Bank and its inflation fight.

    But that’s the known part of the equation. The largely unknown factor is the extent to which the demand side of the migration ledger – be it for housing, infrastructure, services and you name it – will have adverse impacts on the economy, not least potentially through inflation.

    https://www.interest.co.nz/personal-finance/125470/second-part-his-preview-2024-david-hargreaves-examines-whether-combination

    A theme Micheal Riddell has talked about for years.
    Its time to do productivity notincrease immigration.

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    • It’s the number one issue but no political party wants to talk about it.
      Just who is dictating high immigration levels?
      Australia has had 500,000 in the last year and the UK has thousands of illegal immigrants every month , now being put up in high class accommodation and receiving handouts unavailable to Brits.
      New Zealands immigration numbers are unacceptable and National seem deaf to any logical argument that points out the negative impact this has on our economy and country.
      In Australia you have people like Dick Smith who has been active in opposing high immigration and the Institute of Public Affairs has produced some good papers on the issue.
      Peta Credlin also confronts high immigration and Judith Sloane in “The Australian” has written quality articles on the subject.
      We are seeing the slow demise of our country and maybe all western countries.
      I can’t see things changing.

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      • You are being diluted
        rapidly
        your culture is evil, white folk !!

        That is the message.
        It could not be louder or clearer.
        Luxon is in on it.
        Traitor like J keys.

        The march through the institutions.
        They won.
        Some Irish pushed back last week.
        You saw how they were treated.
        Similar to NZ parliament grounds last year.

        The media is your sworn enemy.
        They will do you more harm than any german (well excl Klaus n co) Russian, or Japanese.
        This IS a fight for your survival.

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  21. They expecting the maori protesters to gather a 7am tomorrow, yer right!
    Get of the grass, not going to happen! It’s going to be a flop!
    Bennies outta bed in the dark, get breaky, catch the bus, arrive for 7am!
    Is labor/ maori providing breakfast/lunch!

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  22. akk good fun. Us bad boys get a break. Yahoo.
    Hunty don’t spend it all in one dirty night.

    More details have emerged about the Coalition’s tax plans with a surprising twist that changes to interest deductibility for residential property investors have effectively been backdated to 1st April this year. Like many others when I was discussing this last week, I assumed that the reference to 2023/24 was to the Government’s financial year ending 30 June 2024 and the increase to 60% deductibility would kick in from 1st April 2024. (National’s own workings released during the Election use a 30 June year-end).

    https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/125504/new-zealand-tax-podcast-%E2%80%93-surprise-acceleration-interest-deductibility-and

    Actually they should refund the money stolen from us before that.

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  23. Now having pissed of naaska with the last post here is music to his ears.
    Time to legalise and tax marijuana? The Colorado example.

    But if we are looking at the question of raising taxes, or essentially getting more tax revenue from tobacco excise duty, then I’m going to pick up a point that I’ve had for some time and ask why not legalise and tax marijuana. Now, yes, there was a referendum which voted against that. But referendums are not binding on governments. I also think there are second order benefits of legalisation including putting a hole in organised crime’s finances.

    At present 24 states in the United States of America have now legalised or decriminalised marijuana. One of those is Colorado, which has a population of just over 5 million, more or less identical to Aotearoa New Zealand.

    Colorado legalised marijuana in 2014 and have been taxing it since then. The taxes comprise the state sales tax (2.9%) on marijuana sold in stores, the state retail marijuana sales tax (15%) on retail marijuana sold in stores, and the state retail marijuana excise tax (15%) on wholesale sales/transfers of retail marijuana. In addition, Colorado also has fee revenue from coming in from licensing and application fees.

    Colorado’s Department of Revenue publishes monthly marijuana tax reports, and between February 2014 and October this year it has collected over US$2.5 billion from marijuana taxes. That’s over NZ$4 billion.

    However, whether you are taxing smoking or marijuana, long term, the revenue should decline to nil, because ultimately we want people to not smoke because of the health order benefits. You can see this in Colorado’s marijuana tax revenue which rises quite steadily initially but then since mid-2021, it has started to fall away. This is probably the second order effects of people stopping smoking altogether.

    But anyway, on average, the tax take is settling down to about US$300 million a year which is roughly $500 million New Zealand dollars. That’s actually a not insubstantial amount of revenue.

    So that’s the Colorado example. I’m not going to say it’s going to happen here under the new Government. But you never know.

    https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/125504/new-zealand-tax-podcast-%E2%80%93-surprise-acceleration-interest-deductibility-and

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    • the tax revenue dropped away as the black market recovered, also initially crime dropped too once legalized but then massively increased.
      imo full legalization isnt the way, liberal decriminalization laws would be better as fully legalizing just means big corporates instead of gang bros prey on users same as booze and tobacco industry but we all know which option govt would favour esp once donations and the lure of tax revenue to blow comes into play.

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        • After nearly sixty years of sourcing marijuana through the underground market I’ve pretty much given up any dreams of seeing the herb sold openly & taxed as alcohol is.

          I note though that legally prescribed medical bud starts at $13g so $370 oz. Add government taxes/duties & the weekend joint will be a luxury compared with meth.

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        • KNOW YOUR DOPE FIEND. YOUR LIFE MAY DEPEND ON IT! You will not be able to see his eyes because of Tea-Shades, But his knuckles will be white from inner tension and his pants will be crusted with semen from constantly jacking off when he can’t find a rape victim. He will stagger and babble when questioned. He will not respect your badge. The Dope Fiend fears nothing……….

          Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas – Hunter S Thompson

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        • my canadian mate reckons the legal stuff is shit, all looks n tastes the same… old n stale.
          the blackmarket got cheaper over there, top quality is 800-1k per pound now. it ended alot of small time growers as the bulk of black market is now supplied by legal grows pushing it out the backdoor for tax free sales and now weed is far more readily available and cheaper then ever.
          great unintended consequences ay!

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    • The Vatican Party will never legalise marijuana but prior to the election Luxon said he was “happy with the current settings.” That & the results of the 2020 referendum should at least mean that punitive legislation won’t fly.

      New Zealand First says all social issues should go to referendums & ACT doesn’t support prohibitions.

      But in the end marijuana use will probably keep dropping as the hippy generation die off. Today’s up & coming drug aficionados get their rocks off on highs grown in a laboratory.

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  24. It hasn’t take any time at all for the undermining of the new govt to start

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/12/fair-pay-agreements-leaked-cabinet-paper-reveals-workplace-relations-minister-brooke-van-velden-at-odds-with-official-advice.html
    Newshub has obtained a leaked Cabinet paper about the Coalition Government’s plans to repeal Fair Pay Agreements.

    But van Velden told Cabinet that she did not believe a blunt tool like FPAs would have been successful.

    “We just don’t believe that FPAs are actually good at creating good business environment and therefore good long-term certainty for good employees,” said Luxon.

    Van Velden also told her Cabinet colleagues there had been consultation with the Council of Trade Unions and Business NZ, while Treasury said there had been “no consultation”.

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      • Volcanoes are good at changing the climate. When Mount Tambora in Indonesia erupted in 1815, the following year was known as the Year without a Summer, due to the massive amounts of ash in the upper atmosphere. Lots of cold weather and crop failures.

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        • even better go back to 546AD, that volcano (krakatoa?) made it winter worldwide for 2+years straight, the sun only shone at 30% its normal light and only a few hours daylight everyday until the ash fell outve the atmosphere.

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          • In 1883, Krakatoa was made up of three peaks: Perboewatan, the northernmost and most active; Danan in the middle; and the largest, Rakata, which formed the southern end of the island.

            Krakatoa was last thought to have erupted some two centuries earlier, in 1680, and most people believed it was extinct. But in May 1883, people reported feeling tremors and hearing explosions, first in western Java and then on the other side of the Sunda Strait in Sumatra.

            Reports started coming in from ships sailing through the busy waterway, including the German warship Elizabeth, whose captain reported seeing a cloud of ash above Krakatoa stretching some 6 miles high. Things had quieted down by the end of the month, though smoke and ash continued to emerge from Perboewatan crater.

            https://www.history.com/topics/natural-disasters-and-environment/krakatoa

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            • People forget to consult the Sun God and then…whammo!!

              A massive sunspot region made up of at least six different sunspot groups has emerged on the sun’s nearside. The “archipelago” of dark patches is spitting out solar storms at an alarming rate and Earth will soon be in the firing line.

              https://www.livescience.com/space/the-sun/enormous-sunspot-archipelago-15-times-wider-than-earth-could-soon-bombard-us-with-solar-flares

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              • For me it is very difficult to understand the powerful forces, of those solar flares. and just what they can do.

                The interlinking of other events, like for me is the amazing speed of the shift in the magnetic north pole in our life time, particularly in this century.
                Must be tied up with the internal molten iron mass in the centre of the earth.

                But that “flexing” what ever it is, must also squeeze in some sense on the earths mantle, and push & pull on the maga below the earths crust,

                So would some powerful solar flare trigger the earths magnetic pole to more than just a twitch, to put it mildly?
                As many of know with playing with 2 magnets, but in the molten iron, that magnetizing would be beyond comprehension. like taking a life of its own.
                It is talked about the poles do change polarity,

                What would be the trigger, something small like the “butterfly wings” theory of creating a hurricane, or something much more measurable?

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        • TheTongan jobbie caused our wet winter. The rain was full of volcanic ash. Been clear for about 3 weeks now. Might be more to come as it circles the globe. what goes up must come down.

          Like the brides strides ya know.

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        • These volcanoes sure seem to swing the “climate” around as that Tambora :—
          With Tambora’s eruption, cooling temperatures led to decreased rainfall, failed crops, and mass starvation in many parts of the world. It’s difficult to know how many people died because of starvation conditions, but “the death toll is probably about a million people, at least, in the years afterwards,”

          Now if Antarctica had a blow out to shift some of those ice packs/sheets, or glaciers will again bring in another form of variance.
          Would it catch the Humboldt Current to go up the West Coast of South America? or onto the Indian Ocean?

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          • I don’t understand why all these rich globalists don’t just combine all their clout and put a nuke into one of these volcanoes in Asia. Thats where the biggest concentration of expendable humans are.
            It would set the human race back 100’s of years.

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    • yes i did, i blended in well amongst the domesticated citizens of Gore today.
      plenty of hair that i couldve donated as i was a spectacular scruffy feral upon my arrival, i didnt think of sending it to assist luxtard but i plan on doing some manscaping later in the week and i think my ball hair will be more appropriate for his penis looking head.

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  25. Just a little Russian roulette, measured out for the heart.

    …. Cardiologist Dr. Peter McCullough interpreted the study to support:
    A single vaccine shot causes a 2.5% risk of long term heart damage. Those who got two shots have an 8% risk.

    The study concluded: “When compared with non-vaccinated patients, asymptomatic patients who received their second vaccination 1–180 days prior to imaging showed increased myocardial 18F-FDG uptake on PET/CT scans.”
    In more simple language, even those people of all ages and both sexes who had no noticeable adverse symptoms following COVID-19 vaccination end up with a significantly increased risk of long term cardiac damage.

    https://hatchardreport.com/why-did-the-ministry-of-health-whistleblower-publish-vaccine-data/

    The main point is Guy Hatchard is showing up just how MedSafeNZ only allow a limited time to be read as a vaccine effect.
    Barry Young bought it to their attention, but it did not fit the fixed vaxx damage criteria.

    Anything outside that time zone was not to be considered, as the Japanese study extends that time to 6 months.
    Then it seems to be peer reviewed or consider by Peter McCullough.
    The only thing to do is let some more time roll by, & see how those jabbed roulette Japanese hearts tick on.

    And of course, will this government keep everything suppressed?
    After all it looks like for the 2x jabbers 90% are good.
    Not to consider any other problems either, outside that time zone.

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