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Viking
2 years ago

Updated
Magnitude 4.8 earthquake strikes southeastern Hawke’s Bay, felt by thousands

A magnitude 4.8 earthquake struck late on Sunday night in southeastern Hawke’s Bay, about 5km from Pōrangahau.

It had a shallow depth of 16km and is considered a strong quake by GNS Science.

The GeoNet website showed more than 2000 people across the central and lower North Island reported feeling the shake about 11.20pm.

There were eight aftershocks between 12.05am and 4.05, the strongest being a magnitude 3.3 quake just before 3am.

Viking
Reply to  Viking
2 years ago

Residents in a central Wellington apartment block felt ‘shaking’, hours after a 5.7 magnitude quake struck the city.
They were evacuated as a precaution late last night, before being allowed back in around midnight.
The building only opened last year and was prized as Wellington’s first base-isolated apartment development.
One person said an engineer couldn’t figure out what the shaking was so the building had to be cleared.

It was deemed safe to re-enter around midnight with residents allowed back in.

The Victoria Lane Apartments were opened in March last year and were prized as Wellington’s first base-isolated apartment development.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/wellington-apartment-block-evacuated-after-residents-feel-shaking/RTWTBLULXBF67FHR7HDFGY2OWQ/

Seem to recall that not so long ago that happened somewhere else and the building collapsed.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Viking
2 years ago

Boing Boing

Odakyu-sen
Reply to  Viking
2 years ago

If earthquakes are symptoms of geological stress relief, then let’s have more of them.

Viking
Reply to  Odakyu-sen
2 years ago

Be careful what you wish for. but lots of little ones is good. Keeps the natives awake.

Imagime what Hori thought when he came here and the earth moved.

Thats when the learned their white eye rolling trick.

Tarquin
Reply to  Viking
2 years ago

Beware ye the Kernadecs said the wise journalist.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Tarquin
2 years ago

What are the volcanos when they ejectulate?

Odakyu-sen
Reply to  Sooty
2 years ago

Don’t volcanoes emit smagma?

Viking
2 years ago

So it was another second hand peice of junk that our pollies bought.
The Nats were there until 2020 the the Klarkula took over.

They buy new cars for themselves and second-hand junk for shipping.

Who is about to buy more second hand junk for our shipping.

Why do they not take note of people better than themselves.

If they cut the bloody social giving and pandering to the fringe lunatics and others we could have new everytime.
They should trust Kiwi’s who know what they are doing.

and of course they should ask the questions.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/royal-new-zealand-navy-vessel-hmnzs-manawanui-runs-aground-near-samoa/YLJL2634NVDJTD6YOQPJDBOMFU/

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Viking
2 years ago

Are the rumors true they were using biofuel and the engines cut out meaning no propulsion and the boat had trouble parallel parking next to the reef. No point dropping the anchors as the water is too deep. For the biofuel trials they should have put in a heap of solar panels and batteries as backup!
I reckon the Defense Minister Judith Collins should resign. It’s on her watch, how many hospitals lost?
The head of the navy Rear Admiral Garin Golding, should resign too! He’s already put the fix in about jumping off the boat, was a good idea and saved lot of lives. To save the embarrassment of the parallel parking problem.
Do you think the navy computor wizz kids are already busy trolling the likes of Trademe looking for a replacement boat.

howitis
howitis
Reply to  Sooty
2 years ago

..The head of the navy Rear Admiral Garin Golding…

That could be part of the problem
too many Rear Admirals and rear gunners
They are sailors after all !!!

“Midshipman Tangaroa extract yourself from Ensign O’Malley’s Rear. We need to abandon ship ” !!!

nasska
Reply to  howitis
2 years ago

Rum, sodomy & the lash? 🙂

Saggy
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

Sounds like fun. Can you swap out the rum for alcohol-free beer?

Tarquin
Reply to  Saggy
2 years ago

What is this alcohol free beer you speak of?

Viking
Reply to  Tarquin
2 years ago

Greeny Stuff.
You wouldn’t have thought that of Saggs

Tarquin
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

That’s Sunday yacht racing, and you forgot the keel hauling.

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  Sooty
2 years ago

Many good points Odayu-sen.

I did hear it was rough at the times, so the breakers, surf should have been able to be seen & heard even at night.

A loss of power to the main engines?
What was happening in the Engine room?
Who are the Chief Engineers?

A ship of that size would have a number of auxiliary engines, for power generation (at least 2) & 1 for the hydraulics.

Did they even put out the anchors? though I do know the water can be so deep.
A possible sea anchor, drogue? though not so helpful in a current, but most currents do not sweep on to a reef, though a pinnacle is an exception,

It is the wind & waves that would push a ship onto the rocks,

The question of the fire, its origins? to me is very unusual.
Need a time line of that,
Was it in part one of the causes of loss of power?

Enough of my conjectures for now.
The problem is that the navy & politicians circle the wagons where they feel most exposed.
As in though a minor scrape, the going on’s about the Te Kaha earlier this year, mentioned here.
https://ysb.co.nz/have-your-say-168/#comment-413629
Still seems to he on the “hush up” level.

Viking
Reply to  Simpleton1
2 years ago

With any luck they won’t replace it and just hire some private contractor to do the work or let the other nation hire a private contractor.
Why should the NZ taxpayer be doing this for nothing in some other soverign nation?

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  Simpleton1
2 years ago

Further on the Te Kahu (TEK) Harvey Wharf banger gash via Cranmer
.
….. The report found that TEK “was unable to extract bridge voice recordings from the Ship’s Voice Data Recorder system, meaning no recreation of bridge conversations was possible.”
.
In contravention of guidance, TEK’s Ship’s Log and Navigation Record Book “are both scant of details”. Additions by the OOW are “insufficient to create any narrative or understand the sequencing of events”. ……
.
……. No negligence was found. Factors included weather, slow action from rigs [tugs] and defective radios. ….

https://x.com/CranmerWrites/status/1843062957913395445
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It becomes interesting going on the links I put in the comments a day or so ago where there seems to be some discrepancies about the weather.
.
So it seems the system successfully circled the wagons, and left wondering about the defective radios & what really conveniently happened to the “Ship’s Voice Data Recorder system”, a technical fuzzing or delete?
.
Will there be another repeat of the “Ship’s Voice Data Recorder system”, & radio systems? ….. How Convenient ! ! ….

DylanHunt
Reply to  Simpleton1
2 years ago

[1] It they were moored far enough away, when the boat started drifting, they would have had ample time to respond, and if not able to correct, call mayday.

[2] It is a survey ship so they had all the gear to see what was under the water. So no excuse.

[3] There are Maritime rules for a reason.

https://www.maritimenz.govt.nz/media/1dge5jsw/establishing-managing-anchorages.pdf

So either:

[a] Key personnel were absent from their post or busy doing other things;

[b] Didn’t drop anchor because depth exceeded either chain length or 40m maximum;

[c] Dropped anchor and didn’t realise it wasn’t stopping the ship from drifting;

[d] Failed to set alarms for proximity or drift; and/or in absence of said alarms or alarms malfunctioning, failed to post at least two officers on the bridge to monitor for ship drift / collision possibility.

[e] It lost power.

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  DylanHunt
2 years ago

[f] The “key personnel” relatively unskilled.
“two officers” relatively unskilled.

Were they even allowed to start the depth sounder?
Were they even allowed to start the sonar, & operate it.?

Were they even allowed to operate the radar system, and skilled enough to interpret it.?
(it is not easy when a boat swings & changes course)
The radar would have shown up some points of land, but probably not the reef, though it may have shown a constant spot of where there were breakers/surf.
What else were they allowed or not allowed to do?

What curriculum did they take and gain a functioning pass.?
Only reason they had a pass rate, for that pay grade, ability to recite “whaka papa” some “waiata” & to strum, + top in class for haka, then to lead powhiris etc… ? ? ?

[g] what were the skills & experience of the engine room watch?
1st, 2nd, 3rd engineers, and others of the “engine room watch” ?

[h] Was the whole navigation officiers totally unware of that “pinnacle / reef” and so being in dangerous waters.

howitis
howitis
Reply to  Simpleton1
2 years ago

You have a lot of questions there Simps.
I suggest we get the Coroners office to investigate.
We can get an answer in 2032 !!!

you say
….The problem is that the navy & politicians circle the wagons where they feel most exposed….

yep yep and yep
We saw this with Air NZ/Erebus in 1979/80
what we got was an orchestrated litany of lies.
And Justice Mahon savaged incl by the attack dogs of the media
No wonder we have a shit excuse for a judiciary today.

Erebus – 45 years ago
There is nothing new under the sun.

Brian Marshall
Reply to  Sooty
2 years ago

Keep Judith Collins in. She will get to the bottom of it and get some scalps. There is no way using biofuels in the naval ships would be proposed, introduced and tested in the time for that decision to be from the current government.
Quite frankly biofuels used in naval shipping is as retarded as electric vehicles for front line troops.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  Brian Marshall
2 years ago

Vessels powered by biofuel are just what the navy needs when traversing the wild waves of the Southern Ocean //

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  waikatogirl
2 years ago

It would keep the shit mixed up, without having to keelhaul the swabbies on the inside of the fuel tank.
They don’t normally have stirers on fuel tanks before biofuel. Didnt need them!

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Brian Marshall
2 years ago

But this is New Zealand we are talking about!
The navy has gone all woke and green.
How much did the cost of the repower cost, with having to cut the deck open for crane access and rewelding.
New engines minus cost of old engines.
Fuel cost of new engines.
Fuel cost of old engines.
Cost saved for fuel, verses repower cost?
How many hours sailing to break even?
Expected hours sailing, verses expected life?

nasska
Reply to  Sooty
2 years ago

No-one will care. Just think of the carbon savings & how the planet is being saved. /////

howitis
howitis
Reply to  Brian Marshall
2 years ago

Judy Collins is a perfect case of fuck and round and never find out.

She vacillated for over a year on the David Bain compensation case. leaving it to Amy Adams to sort it out and do Collins job for her.
She was a ‘bit distracted’ at the time over trolling Adam Feeley (all part of a chain of ugly rat fuckers involved , Slater, Dougie Grahams son and so on )

She fucked over short lived ACC Chief Executive Ralph Stewart who was and is a capable guy.

collins is a walking disaster and all blabber.
How many cars did she crush?
Typical of the Notional cabinet at present.

Give it a rest.
Her only priority is her very small Collins family of 3.
And anyone who can help her politically.
Got Milk?

Odakyu-sen
Reply to  Sooty
2 years ago

A ship would hit a reef for various reasons.
– The ship struck the reef while under power
– Navigation failure
– Hacked guidance system (tinfoil hat time)
– Negligence
– The ship lost power and drifted onto the reef

Where were the backup systems?
Were there procedures for not being in a position where a loss of power would carry the ship onto the reef? I would expect the ship to be in a position relative to the reef so that prevailing currents would carry it AWAY from the reef in the event of a power failure.

nasska
Reply to  Odakyu-sen
2 years ago

IMHO “The ship lost power and drifted onto the reef” is by far the most likely scenario. Worth noting is that RNZN Manawanui was equipped with four diesel-electric generators, two azimuth propulsion systems & three bow thrusters so redundancy would have been a minor consideration.

Whatever happened rendered four diesel engines inoperable. To the best of my knowledge only Kiwirail have managed to do this when the “one” cooling system common to all four engines fitted to “Kaitaki” failed in Cook Strait Jan 2023.

Though the Navy’s Facebook page of 4 June 2019 offers a good clue of why things turned to custard.

“On the soon to be commissioned HMNZS Manawanui we have fitted two latest generation diesel engines designed to reduce carbon emissions and increase fuel efficiency. In fact they’re so efficient the ship sailed from Denmark to Wellington on just one tank of fuel.”

The climate change scam has claimed another victim!

Saggy
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

A diesel engine should only require fuel, air and compression to run. It’s not rocket science.

nasska
Reply to  Saggy
2 years ago

It’s the fuel metering devices that give the problems in the new age diesels Saggy. They’re either point of delivery in the injectors or metered at the pump & in all cases, computer controlled.

They’re super susceptible to contaminants in the diesel.

Dougal10
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

And biodiesel is super susceptible to contamination ,especially water absorption which common rail diesels hate .

Odakyu-sen
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

Save a few percentage points of fuel consumption but end up with a motor significantly more prone to failure?
Are the bean counters in charge?

Mike Hunty
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

Ya cant park there Captain.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Mike Hunty
2 years ago

HHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA, you nailed it Hunty!

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Sooty
2 years ago

Hang on, hang on a minute. Back the bus up!
The ship was made with four engines and they repowered with two fuel efficient ones.
What happened to the other two?

nasska
Reply to  Sooty
2 years ago

Who knows? They may have mothballed them but as I understand it most four engined ships could make it to port on one but operate on two to power the twin screws.

The third engine is emergency/standby & the fourth is expected to be ‘in maintenance’.

But I’m open to correction.

Odakyu-sen
Reply to  Sooty
2 years ago

I am sure the navy had tested the biofuels for suitability and had programs in place to monitor the quality of each batch of biofuel.
If they didn’t then they deserved to lose the ship.

DEI and wokeness sinking the navy?

howitis
howitis
Reply to  Odakyu-sen
2 years ago

These woke pricks may well deserve to lose it
but it is the taxpayer that has to pay
and pay
and pay
always.

Betcha no-one will lose rank or any of their ribbons from
‘advanced coffee making’ or whatever.
Yes, I have a dim view of NZs disarmed forces. The navy and airforce should be shut down. Simple.

No doubt lots of these ‘fighting men and women’ 😁😁🤣🤣
are highly stressed after their ship sank in friendly waters under exactly ZERO fire from the enemy
But lots will have PTSD and need counselling.

Maybe some survivors from the Wahini who had to swim across to the Eastbourne coast could give them some backbone lessons
HTFU
HTFU
HTFU

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Editor
2 years ago

Loved it!

Ross12
2 years ago

Another example of newer tech perhaps not working as it should ( like the biofuels //).

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/529989/wellington-apartments-evacuated-after-earthquake-safe-to-re-enter-police

howitis
howitis
2 years ago

….The HMNZS Manawanui ran aground while surveying a reef south of Samoa late on Saturday….

So this was October 5
The Rena grounded on a reef on October 5 2011.

The moral of the story is
if you have a big dingy then stay at the Wharf on October 5.

howitis
howitis
2 years ago

….Harrogate-born Yvonne Gray trained as a teacher and once hoped to open her own restaurant. Instead she said she found her perfect niche as a naval officer, first in the Royal Navy and now in the Pacific with the Royal New Zealand Navy….

Is Yvonne Gray NZ’s answer to Cressida Dick

…Dame Cressida Rose Dick DBE QPM is a British former police officer who served as Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis from 2017 to 2022. She is both the first female and the first openly homosexual officer to lead the Metropolitan Police Service. Dick joined the MPS in 1983….

and look at Brit poo-licing today !!!
I ask ya?

This is not isolated and NZ should not be bringing in English women with their problems to NZ
A classic case was Dawn Baxendale who was made CEO of Christchurch CC.
She had bailed out of Birmingham Council after 18 months of a 5 year contract.
Um Red Flag there, guys.
Noting that In September 2023 Birmingham City Council issued a 114 notice, effectively declaring it was bankrupt.
Not a big surprise. Cant blame that on whitey, there are not many there despite it being the powerhouse of great music in the 1960s and 1970s .

And Baxendale bailed out of CHC Early. After lots of problems. She drove the men out and had an all female Executive team. It was a cock up. Or lack of cocks, maybe.
DEI indeed.
She was a shocker. But it is the city of the damned so things just don’t get better.
Even the Crusaders are broken. 😢😞

————–
It took more than six months, and required an intervention by the chief ombudsman, but Christchurch’s council has finally released its exit payment to former chief executive Dawn Baxendale.

The council announced in November last year it had accepted Baxendale’s resignation, after a tumultuous four years in the job, and a year short of her contract expiring. No payments were disclosed at the time, and the council’s statement said there would be no further comment. Her salary was almost $550,000 a year.

In March, Newsroom reported the council had made 22 payments, totalling $918,000, for severance, personal grievance settlements, and redundancies in 2023
———

I am sure there are heaps of these English women ensconced in the smelly bowels of the woke wet Wellywood CBD.

nasska
Reply to  howitis
2 years ago

We’ve long been a dumping ground for the Pom’s misfits & nohopers.

Witness the commie union stirrers & third grade tradesmen they dumped on our shores in the 1950s & 60s.

Viking
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

Plenty arrived in the bakery trade. Either Union nasties or useless as all they had ever done was stand in one place doing the same job for years.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Viking
2 years ago

Mates father hired one and all he could do was bash out bumpers with two tire irons!

Tarquin
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

The money factory in Whangarei was another brilliant example. Bradbury Wilkinson used it as a dumping ground for the utterly useless.

nasska
Reply to  Tarquin
2 years ago

They used the same logo on the $3 & $8 notes?

Tarquin
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

Don’t think they were that good.

howitis
howitis
2 years ago

Message for Yvonne Gray

From The 2020 movie ‘The Hunt’
Betty Gilpin

33 sec
see at 26 secs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfW-FhPoC2o

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
2 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAXjcUccgpU
Defence Minister Judith Collins On The HMNZS Manawanui

The Platform NZ

Mike Hunty
2 years ago

Got a mortgage? Good news. Hunty expects a drop in the OCR on Wednesday.

I see the wimmin folk in that navy shot are all kitted out with murri weapons. I bet the driving instructions for the Cap’n of the vessel were written in Te Reo. Bwhahaha. What a disgrace.

Mike Hunty
Reply to  Mike Hunty
2 years ago

Awwww.
“After 19 years in the Royal Navy, in 2012, Gray moved to New Zealand with her wife after falling in love with the country while on holiday.”

nasska
Reply to  Mike Hunty
2 years ago

Her life’s experiences would read like a mishmash of Love Story & The Navy Lark!

howitis
howitis
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

Being English it will be like a Carry On movie

‘Carry On Sinking’

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
2 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDX5q30V_-E
Why Does Kamala Harris Keep Repeating This Quote?

Chris and Eric Weinstein discuss Kamala Harris’ repeated phrase.

Don’t get taken in

howitis
howitis
2 years ago

……..TVNZ staff are understood to have been called into a meeting on Monday – with the company needing to find $30m, by either increasing revenue or cutting costs.

Stuff understands a whole company meeting will be held at 1pm where an announcement will be made.A TVNZ spokesperson told Stuff on Monday: “TVNZ is entering into consultation with our people on proposed strategic changes to our business.”
————

ha ha
burn baby burn
They blew over $60 million on a refit in 2014 to 2016 that should have cost $30 million
more than double.
The repercussion. They did not have to pay government a dividend for years.

Useless
Johnny keys let this slide.
Should have sold it in 2013 as asset sales. Gutless slob chickened out.
Baack baaack baack barrk
🐔🐔

Where did the money go
——————–
Guests at TVNZ’s building refurbishment opening by Prime Minister John Key this morning got an idea why the job grew from just over $30 million to $60.3 million.

Technology upgrades,
extensive use of bright neon tubes,
an atrium refitted in an industrial chic style,
a 36sq m three-level giant reception TV screen,
commercial cafe, new airbridge,
wall art, glass balustrades,
new stair configuration and new newsroom for about 130 people were just some of the features on show in the building, occupied by about 600 people.
————

Hell, the teevee studios don’t even need to be in the CBD.
TV3 and Sky are not. No problem for them.
It is just vanity of the teevee critters.

Burn em I say
Offer it for sale $1.00
with a 50% prompt payment discount.

Tarquin
Reply to  howitis
2 years ago

I can remember when Prime T.V had there head office in an industrial building in North Harbour.

nasska
Reply to  howitis
2 years ago

All major credit cards accepted.

howitis
howitis
2 years ago

Shit
Spilled my lunch
Brother sent me email

“The Chinese Ambassador has just gone to PM Luxon and surrendered after seeing the demonstration of the awesome power of the NZ Navy. “

Ross12
2 years ago

Talk about being woke, living in a bubble, being ultra Pc and any other description along those lines you can think of. Look who Wellington has in line to give an award to for contributions to the city. Adrian Orr of all people !!!

https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/350438913/best-wellington-business-be-celebrated-gala-event

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  Ross12
2 years ago

Orrwellian! 🤡

wiseowl
Reply to  waikatogirl
2 years ago

Orrsome.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
2 years ago

Austrian leftist parties refusing voters to have their way

https://rumble.com/v5hpj4d-austria-is-facing-a-conservative-wave-in-the-next-elections-and-theyre-terr.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
Austria is facing a CONSERVATIVE WAVE in the next elections and THEY’RE TERRIFIED | Redacted News

Once again the media is worried about a “far-right” win in Austria. The Freedom party had record turnout but they are not being allowed to form a government because its rivals have refused to enter a coalition with it.

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  Editor
2 years ago

You oughta be jailed in the states.
The English will put you in gaol.

Then that whole skit is set on someone’s “freedom fighter” is a “terrorist” to another, in the cause of ‘no taxation with out representation’.
Meet the new boss.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
2 years ago

Another brilliant and clever MAGA advert

https://rumble.com/v5ete77-the-best-campaign-ad-of-september-who-really-are-the-maga-people.html
The Best Campaign Ad of September: Who Really Are the MAGA People?

Webwrat
Reply to  waikatogirl
2 years ago

I’d love to give it 10 upticks WG!

Starving Artist
Starving Artist
Reply to  Editor
2 years ago

Inbreds are stupider and more aggressive – for the muzzrats that is a feature, not a bug.

nasska
Reply to  Editor
2 years ago

That’s what happens when the retards use ancestry.com instead of Tinder.

Saggy
Reply to  Editor
2 years ago

That’s the problem with the burka. That wife you’ve just jumped from behind could turn out to be your sister or mum.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Saggy
2 years ago

Just aswell I live in the burbs!

Sooty
Sooty
2 years ago

Yar Hu! John Camp -bell to be made redundant early next year!
All we need is for the Ferald to lay some off.
Don’t have to worry about $tuff they will fold anytime.

Starving Artist
Starving Artist
Reply to  Sooty
2 years ago

Marvelous.

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  Sooty
2 years ago

Sooty, is not about time you learnt how to put a link?

….. 1News.co.nz would be shut in February 2025 if the proposal went ahead. ….
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/tvnz-set-to-unveil-new-strategic-plan-proposals-sense-of-anxiety-and-sadness/INMWHIND4JGAXABXS4IPWBB3DY/#google_vignette

Nor can I find any reference to John Campbell.

JC maybe “chief correspondent” so TVNZ gets him to do investigative documentaries like recently released in 6 parts about Mandy Molloy, who’d lost her daughter, Rachel, & the police had not fully investigated.

He will land on his feet, he has the contacts so probably draw more on your taxes via Red Radio.

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  Simpleton1
2 years ago

It seems to be considering just shutting down 1News website

…… Closing the 1News website from February next year ….

Whatever the website seems to mean ????
Probably that you can not find & read what ever they said on the news, so do not bother with the “Spec Savers”.

Maybe a flow on effect to JC, ???

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Simpleton1
2 years ago

So they are going to close the 1news website to force you to watch the 1news tv!
Yep, that’ll work. Watch neither!

nasska
2 years ago

Surprise. Surprise. Police bosses in Victoria are getting the message that most people don’t join the police to terrorise their fellow citizens. Victoria Police have a shortage of 1,000 officers & can’t attract new recruits:

# “The force’s dire public confidence ratings were a result of harsh and sometimes-illegal enforcement of the left-wing Labor state government’s draconian and human rights-violating Covid lockdowns and restrictions, a former chief commissioner said in June.”

# ““Unfortunately, what we saw through Covid and the lockdowns was many police actions being unreasonable, violent and indefensible. Victoria Police were seen as tools of the government, not independent, and that cost them dearly,”

https://www.noticer.news/victoria-police-recruitment-crisis/

H/T RCR Bites

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

The risk they now run is that immigration department may open a category for further migratory police.
Maybe the London Met Police from the UK.
The Ukrainian conscription squad maybe looking for a life- saving/changing
Hamas police maybe looking for a respite from Gaza. After all noises are being made to take in such peoples.
Some well trained liaison with police from China?

I do not think limited English will not hinder them, when the helmets, visors, shields, as they will be protected.

And Winston Peters did sign New Zealand up to the UN Global Migration Pact, where any complaining is totally verboten & will be enforced.

After all, look who can end up jumping on & end up skippering a navy boat, where it seems the Te Kaha’s “Ship’s Bridge Voice Data Systems” probably have a fuzzy ‘accent’ code “delete” button.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Simpleton1
2 years ago

Can’t look at the ship data now it’s underwater.
Unless it live streamed back to Devonport.
Whatever there was is now relies on memory!
She’s get off! The fix is already in by her boss.

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  Simpleton1
2 years ago

There are some principles those early settlers claim, which I agree with too.

However, a trinket, glass bead, a nail, a barrel of rum, bought a lot & I fear still do.

As an aside Hat tip Yvette 1st comment in GD on KB.

……. ….. “When people argue over the meaning of words in the Treaty of Waitangi, why is it not in the context of the 1835 Māori Declaration of Independence, where it seems the terms used were quite clear – with Maori iwi asserting “their authority (sovereignty) and power in the land of the Confederation of New Zealand …”

Why is it claimed that, at Waitangi 1840, when they ceded overall sovereignty, Maori did not understand such concepts, which they distinctly did five years earlier?” …

Those early settlers consistently sway & change, and their principles swing in the breeze, as the so called principled rarely speak out, as looking for a chance lotto.

nasska
Reply to  Simpleton1
2 years ago

The Maori understood the concept of sovereignty well. It’s just that their lawyers consider that an easier argument than querying whether they understood the concept of selling land which is the basis of their bleating.

Not all but many of the chiefs who sold their peoples’ land were old frauds who took the pakeha money then told their simple followers that the white man had stolen it. Various blocks were sold to different settlers at different times & the pakeha buyers didn’t have much in the way of meaningful redress.

There were shitloads of skulduggery on both sides. Only one side is still trying to turn back the clock.

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  wiseowl
2 years ago

Thanks wiseowl.
It is good to see that others also have the gist, that. maori did know what sovereignty was in 1840 and so accepted the straight out meaning of giving sovereignty to the Crown (Queen Victoria).

And that others are traitors in continuing ‘weasel’ing’ on that it was for “partnership” so as to put into practice devious co-governance.

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

That skulduggery where I know of it continued well after WW2, and onwards in many different forms.

Like a 21 year lease with a right of renewal for a further 21 year lease.. that was developed from unimproved land to a dairy farm with house.
Then though the lease money had been paid up to date for the first 21 years, another maori & his family moved in, claiming & proving he was the real original owner.

In the mean time can one can figure that the money flowed through to that original claimant pop-up owner from that fronting “cuzzy side-kick”.

No recompense what so ever.
Pleased to say, that family moved on, & the parents & sons were able to buy, with mortgages a freehold farm further out, & supported the parents in their old age.
No recriminations either as very nice people.

And so it continues, being aided and abetted by academia & amplified by the media with the agenda, of ““We have the ability to see what can be, unburdened by what has been, and then to make the possible actually happen.””

Viking
Reply to  Simpleton1
2 years ago

The first lot were eaten by the second lot so the message was never transferred.

Apparently, Hangi’s seem to boil the brain tissue.

nasska
Reply to  Simpleton1
2 years ago

I actually think that our precious early settlers as prime users of police resources may spare us the horrors of multicultural cops.

They have terrible problems now with police who they can at least understand & communicate with if they wish. Someone jabbering in Swahili or Arabic would probably have the life expectancy of a bucket of KFC at a hui. 🙂

Viking
2 years ago

Put aside your fears of FB and watch this video about the future.

https://www.facebook.com/?ref=tn_tnmn

Viking
2 years ago

Big irrigation schemes including the old Ruataniwha Dam are among projects given fast-track treatment by the Government

Major water projects are among the list of projects included in the list of fast-track proposals for economic development unveiled by the Government.

The giant of them all is the old Ruataniwha water storage project in central Hawkes Bay. Other schemes are the so-called Klondyke scheme in mid Canterbury and the Amuri Basin scheme in North Canterbury.

Getting these schemes fast-tracked is welcomed by the industry group, Irrigation NZ.

“The great thing about a panel of experts deciding applications is that it allows people who are actually involved in the project or understand the project to have a view on its actual impacts,” says its chief executive Vanessa Winning.

“It’s less about the possibilities of a project, it is more about the reality.”

https://www.interest.co.nz/rural-news/130117/big-irrigation-schemes-including-old-ruataniwha-dam-are-among-projects-given-fast

I am a stupid boy
2 years ago

well it was a cracker day out in foveaux straight today, excellent fishing and absolute thumper blue cod, huge buggers!!!
beats working and sure as hell beats listening to vikeys rage boner rants or facebook junk 🙂

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
2 years ago

Was the sea two feet higher with the flood?

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Sooty
2 years ago

it appeared alot lower but lots of water mustve flowed into the ocean while we were out as the water had risen a good meter or so when we got back to the ramp //////

was very dirty tho, mud brown closer in and green brown further out. lots of big logs too so had to be on the lookout when cruising around.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
2 years ago

It’s a wonder the fish weren’t walking!

Viking
2 years ago

CONSENTS, YES. BUT STARTING TO BUILD?
55,000 housing units have been included in the weekend-released Fast-track list. A luxury golf course, a ski resort village, and a new roof for Eden Park are all included in the mega-list of projects to be included in the Fast-track Approvals Bill.

Auckland’s residential building downturn is likely to get a lot worse
Although the downturn in residential construction is well underway, the latest figures suggest the worst is yet to come in Auckland.

That’s because residential construction in Auckland has been propped up by a large pipeline of work caused by a surge in residential building consents between March 2021 and December 2022.

The graph below shows the relationship between the number of dwellings consented in Auckland since January 2020, and the number of Code Compliance Certificates (CCCs) issued for new dwellings in the Auckland region over the same period.

Building consents are issued before construction starts while CCCs are issued when a building is completed. On average there is about a two year gap between the two in Auckland.

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/130069/aucklands-residential-building-downturn-likely-get-lot-worse

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Viking
2 years ago

with the associated costs to build these developments many will either not go ahead or else theyll be very expensive to buy… no wonder the govt is looking at underwriting the loans on this shit, theyll take forever to sell and end up in a firesale when it goes tits up.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Viking
2 years ago

The engine stopped! No backup working.

howitis
howitis
2 years ago

The grounding made it to RT

https://www.rt.com/news/605308-large-new-zealand-navy-ship/

some comments
———–
Maybe it didn’t identify as a reef and they didn’t want to be disrespectful.

You would think the first rule of driving a ship would be don’t hit countries with it.

It was a SURVEY ship but they didn’t see the reef? So they only survey part time, or what?

I saw this on Twitter, It looks like the ‘captain’ and her ‘wife’ should have stuck to campervanning’:

Be afraid, China! Be very afraid! 😁

It was the Chinese that had quickly built a reef where the ship was sailing, that’s what I’m hearing from my media ! //

“In 2012, Commander Gray and her wife Sharon ………..” reminds me of another ship, The Rainbow ….. warrior !

NZ just beat Australia to a new submarine

Could dropping anhcor in presumably shallow water have saved to ship or was the Captain doing her nails ??

Hahahaha! Military ship taken out by a REEF! Hahahaha! SHAME! And THAT’s what you call your NAVY!

So now they are only 4.5 eyes. LOL

Have they blame Russia yet? Or China?

Lost power? No backup?
Was it a green (electric) vessel looking for a charging station?

Reef 1
Dyke 0
——————-
A bit of Rodney Dangerfield comes to mind here
I dont get no respect.

Viking
2 years ago

‘Our Chief’: Tribesmen gang member dies in Waikato Expressway crash

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/tribesmen-gang-life-member-riki-epiha-dies-in-waikato-expressway-motorcycle-crash/

Another one down.

Saggy
Reply to  Viking
2 years ago

“The Herald understands the man who died was Riki Taipiria Fabien Epiha, 64, also known as Kebab, Crash and Tai. “

Wonder if he had a kebab yesterday.

Beorn
Beorn
2 years ago
waikatogirl
waikatogirl
2 years ago

Don’t f**k with perfection 😂

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Em4hFzsJ4p4
The Bad End of The Joke Against Labor 👷🔨
short

nasska
2 years ago

The incompetence of NZ Coronial Services is the stuff of legend but this time the fools have beaten all previous records. Last week Coroner Alexander Ho enquiring into the death of an elderly female cancer patient during an isolated limb infusion (ILI) at Waikato Hospital issued his finding.

The decision is probably not greatly important to anyone outside of the family but the time the wretched coroner took to make it shout be shouted from the rooftops.

Fourteen years! Fourteen fucking years of gross masturbation, procrastination & paper shuffling.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/529830/family-devastated-after-human-error-ruled-out-as-causing-mum-s-death

howitis
howitis
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

Nasska

The NZ Coronial Services was dead but no-one found out for 6 years as it was normal for there to be no signs of life !!

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

No wonder “conspiracy theories” can grow into trees, then milled, & build into a house, with this slo-mo systemic Coroners authorities. ! !

Another story, though not pushing JC, but it does show how the Coroner’s & Police system does not work.
Died May 5th 2022. Forensic evidence of a crime? but becomes an accident as the police told the coroners office.
Should the coroner held an inquest but then on that time length that would test some countries “statutes of time limitations”.
What do you think?

‘I don’t believe she fell’: Unravelling the tragedy of Rachel Molloy | Full series on TVNZ+
https://youtu.be/WsLGkWXdS8o
14 mins 23 secs : Premiered Oct 5, 2024 : John Campbell.
I do not know if this is all the 6 parts, or that there are another 5 parts still to come.

To bear in mind Rory Nairn’s death & the hard pushing the family did to get the autopsy done and the report released that the death was due to myocarditis and the coroner found it was the chemists vaccinator at fault for knowing but not warning about the possible but very rare, rare side effects.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/covid-19/517304/rory-nairn-pharmacist-faulted-for-not-warning-of-myocarditis-risk-from-covid-19-vaccine

howitis
howitis
Reply to  Simpleton1
2 years ago

Fuck me Simps

You dont help your cause when quoting the GREAT AND GLORIOUS JC -John Campbell
and teeveeNZ

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

aw well good luck with the lachie jones inquest down here then, coroner ho was leading it as aswell. if vikeys suggestion is correct then lachies case will take 20yrs mininum with all the pigs stuff ups they managed to achieve.

howitis
howitis
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
2 years ago

pigs stuffed up the Lois Tolley murder in Upper Hutt as well.
Murder occurred in 2016.

It did not help all the BS at the time that
‘she was good girl, and all that associated crapola
She was in the drug scene.
The cops never help the case or the cause by promoting lies.

Pretty much all they do. Ask the family of Scott Watson.

the filthy media filth also goes right in and promote the disinformation.

No-one is really going to get a fair trial in ao tear zooland when Jurors cant ask questions. Some countries allow it.
The cops get up and lie like hell on the stand.
WOFT to ever be on a jury.

the whole Ewen McGregor /Scott Guy thing was a cop gerrymandered farce.

Viking
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

Do you think perhaps he is cleaning up other peoples mess.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Viking
2 years ago

Or he’s on the taxpayers dime!

Viking
2 years ago

HMNZS Manawanui sinking: $100m navy ship was not fully insured; only third-party insurance to cover ‘some’ of clean-up

Finance Minister Nicola Willis has confirmed the $100 million New Zealand naval ship that sank off the coast of Samoa at the weekend wasn’t fully insured.

The HMNZS Manawanui was conducting a reef survey off the coast of Samoa when it ran aground, caught fire, capsized and sank on Saturday.

Talking to Newstalk ZB’s Jack Tame on Monday, Willis said the vessel had the equivalent of third-party insurance, to provide some cover for salvage and clean-up, but the ship itself wasn’t covered by insurance.

It’s understood insurance would not cover the full cost of salvage and clean-up.

“Historically, Royal New Zealand Navy (RNZN) vessels aren’t insured due to the prohibitive cost, that’s been the case of successive governments,” Willis said.

“Even if policies like that are purchased, they’ve got such limitations and exclusions and conditions that they’re not really a viable product.”
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/hmnzs-manawanui-sinking-100m-navy-ship-was-not-fully-insured-only-third-party-insurance-to-cover-some-of-clean-up/WAJYS6MOXNAONETPS6QPPP6VVI/

howitis
howitis
Reply to  Viking
2 years ago

So what .
I worked for a company that had 500 people and over 100 vehicles. It self insured.
Insurance is merely spreading risk.
The goo-mint is big enough to spread risk.

I dont do health insurance. I effectively self insure/assume risk.
When it was tax deductible – before rogering duglas – and tax rates were 66% it made sense.

Sooty
Sooty
2 years ago

You just watch, the navy will be pying Somoa or years!
What we need is to send a dive boat with ROV to Somoa to look for the $100million navy boat!
Oh! That’s the boat that sunk! Bugger! Have to hire in contractors.

howitis
howitis
Reply to  Sooty
2 years ago

..the navy will be pying Somoa…

It is all, and only ever, TAXpayers money.
The government has No money.

The Government debt is yours and your descendants.

Beorn
Beorn
2 years ago
howitis
howitis
2 years ago

A high level preliminary review has been conducted and Judith Collins reports back on the sinking

“We have reached the preliminary conclusion that it was Wayne Barnes Fault.
This is not the first time Wayne Barnes has caused grief for NZ. We expect it to be the last .

It was nothing to do with an English school teacher who likes camper-vanning and thought this reef was a suitable Freedom Camping spot for her self contained vehicle, for the night.
These sort of rumours do not help!”
///

nasska
Reply to  howitis
2 years ago

Concern has been expressed that, sensing a gap in our defences, Australia may seize the opportunity to invade.

howitis
howitis
Reply to  nasska
2 years ago

Would they bother?

At least they might actually start drilling the resources (well not under Airbus Albo but he wont last long) and earning some revenue .
Say what. You have all these resources and you import coal from Indonesia via a diesel ship ! 😲😲

Send every prick at D.O.C. a DCM for a start.

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