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    • Now please do not speculate you troll. 🙂
      I am surprised the bbc actually told so much.

      Seems to be a number of Mohammad coefficients.

      With a stolen heavy truck , a man on Monday night in the city center of Limburg on several cars has driven and injured nine people. …..
      ….. the police are investigating in all directions and warning against speculation .

      …. whether it could be a terrorist attack, ….. then it is up to the police, ….. ”

      ….. Whether he deliberately rammed the cars in front of him, the police initially did not want to confirm. ….
      ….. For the time being, police did not want to publish details about the driver for “determination tactical reasons”.

      The “Frankfurter Neue Presse” quoted the rightful driver of the truck:
      “A man pulled me out of my truck.”
      According to the passers-by, the driver is said to have said ‘Allah’ several times”,
      ….. police did not want to give any details either. ….. .

      …. police repeatedly warned against speculation about the background of the incident.
      “We reveal what is secured and not what someone wants to have heard,” …. spokesman …police headquarters West Hesse. …..

      “…..social media called the police West Hesse to spread no rumors.
      Nobody needs trolls or wild speculations, “it said.
      Speculation was “not helpful,” tweeted the responsible officials of the police headquarters West Hesse. ……

      The spokesman contradicted speculation that there was a “news blackout” of the authorities.
      “We will give you backed up insights.”
      https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Gestohlener-Lkw-kracht-in-acht-Autos-article21316781.html plus I used google translate.

      The last paragraph, only to tell you how and what to think.

      When more media control is in place, then the mushrooms will be fully in the dark and given more media trained academia b/s.

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      • Lone wolf who was mentally ill, acted in desperation due to the failings of white Germans to help him, and out of fear of white nationalists.

        I find all white Germans guilty.

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        • “known wolf”
          “suspect had been known to the police for drug offences and grievous bodily harm”
          Sounds like a capture and release program with the police and judiciary.

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      • Another cry for “help”, but sadly, the “capture and release” program of the police and judiciary continues.

        A 23-year-old Syrian armed with a knife on Friday ran into a Berlin synagogue, and was arrested at the entrance.

        According to eyewitnesses, the Syrian yelled “Allahu akhbar” and anti-Israel statements.

        The synagogue’s two guards immediately drew their weapons, and a colleague requested police reinforcements, En24.news reported Saturday.

        Police arriving at the scene sprayed pepper gas in the would-be stabber’s face , the site added.

        En24.news quoted a police spokeswoman who said: “We are investigating in all directions.”

        The suspect’s apartment was searched, and electronics and documents were confiscated, but the suspect was ultimately released Saturday morning.

        “So far the man has not appeared in the police [records],” the spokeswoman said. “He was also released. Grounds for detention are not available.”

        She said no political motive was immediately recognizable, but state security is investigating the case.
        http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/269784

        Those white German police are made to look like fools, “sprayed pepper gas in the would-be stabber’s face” when he had not stabbed any one, and seems like no grounds for detention.

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    • Do we need any more proof that we need to clamp down hard on gun ownership in New Zealand to prevent this sort of tragedy happening again.

      And we need to follow up by ONLY accepting male North African Muslim refugees from hereon in. Preferably 100 000 every year.

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    • Yeah – with a name like that he’s probably a Lutheran or a radicalised Presbyterian. Those bloody Christians – why wont they just give up their country? //sarc.

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  1. On Monday, a man hijacked a lorry and ploughed into eight vehicles waiting at a traffic light, injuring eight people. Seven were treated in hospital.

    A thirty-two year-old suspect has been arrested.

    Originally from Syria, the man has been living in Germany since 2015, local reports say.

    Public broadcaster ZDF quoted sources as saying the incident was being treated by investigators as having a “terrorist background”, although Interior Minister Horst Seehofer said on Tuesday he could not yet say how the incident was being classified.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49970807

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      • Like all of us Chuck, he was probably in constant fear of those white nationalists the media goes on about.

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      • Yes indeed, we need the government to rush through legislation to urgently start an assault lorry buyback. Every lorry owner should be required to present themselves to a concentration camp for 20 lashes for even thinking of owning an assault lorry. Then their first born children should be sold into slavery as penance for being white supremacists before being forced to sell their lorries to the government – who will pay for the below market rates paid with the lorry owners own money.

        Armed police will be running a programme of intimidation of all registered lorry owners by turning up unannounced and fully armed to the homes of any lorry drivers who even think unkind thoughts about the PTPM and one in three of the occupants of lorry driving homes will be shot because .. you know …. diversity.

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  2. Just an update on my polls campaign
    I emailed Reid research and Colmar Brunton asking when the next polls are.
    They both emailed back and told me that they could not tell me as it may influence the results!
    I also looked up on Curia’s website and it seems that a poll with one supplementary question would cost about $2,000 and take 3 weeks.

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    • DN15 why the obsession with polls? We all know they’re just a tool of the corrupt and dishonest MSM, with the advent of cellphones they’re also hopelessly unreliable. It’s not like the expenditure would deliver you anything that is reliable or worth anything.

      We can tell as much from the absence of polls as we can from running them. Obviously when the left is doing badly, the MSM don’t want to run any polls as they basically disprove their narrative (and evil globalists pay good money to have their narrative pushed – regardless of the facts).

      The MSM are holding off on them at present in the hope that the PTPM is going to get an utterly worthless Nobel prize and then they’ll:
      – oversample loony lefties, and
      – undersample ordinary, decent NZers

      I’ve been told polling companies were utterly certain:
      – Trump couldn’t win in 2016
      – Hillary was guaranteed to be the next PM
      – the Brexit leave vote was going to be 10% less than Remain
      – ScoMo was certain to lose to Labour in Aus
      they’re always wrong where left vs right is concerned. Why would you want to line the pockets of professional liars to get a defective product?

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      • Id like see a poll to see if there has been a drop in support for the COL and Ardern after al the bad news lately.
        Sure, they are not perfect, but they are a guide, especially the trends.

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      • I sgree with you. It makes little sense to pay companies who will give you a false answer, be that through bias or sampling methodology.

        The fact the media isn’t polling will give you a good idea of where they are. And even if, somehow, you managed to get an unfavourable result, who would publish it apart from YSB?

        Why is Natio al not releasing their results?

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  3. Govt quietly abandons electric vehicle target

    The Government has quietly backed away from a pledge to make its fleet emissions-free by mid-2025. The goal was part of the Labour-NZ First coalition agreement, Marc Daalder reports.

    There are 15,473 vehicles in the government fleet and only 78 are electric. When the coalition Government came into power in late 2017, the agreement between Labour and New Zealand First stipulated that the entire fleet would be emissions-free by mid-2025, “where practicable”.

    Although it was repeated as recently as June, that goal has been quietly revised to a commitment that, after mid-2025, all new vehicles entering the fleet will be emissions-free.

    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/10/08/847665/government-quietly-abandons-electric-vehicle-target?fbclid=IwAR07Wmoyuj0OFeKzbXt1l3-Ob_nvy2uqldbfVQQLni0t_YP_kdGJj-VlsUM#

    One strike for common sense.
    BUT what do the govt. know that we don’t?

    Are electric cars now no longer wanted?

    NZ Bus has just spent $6 million on 5 buses for Tauranga just to appease the wasteful fools at EBOP.

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    • Local Government management is not above stupid decisions to purchase electric vehicles and consider placing charging stations to enable the stupidity. This despite a reality one remote location charging station may provide 3 charges a week.

      Local Government does not have a role to virtual signal this inefficiency on the ratepayers account.

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  4. How can people like David Clark the Health Minister survive with figures like this and still keep blaming the former Government for his inability to arrest the blowout of millions of dollars in several of our Hospitals.
    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/health/sdhb-deficit-balloons-858-million
    This idiot is well out of his depth and with the Prime Minister have no other answer than to play the blame game on the previous Government over two years later.

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  5. I read on rt this morning that Guterres has said the UN may run out of money by the end of the month.
    Fingers crossed.

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  6. I am in the defund and shut the UN down camp. I reject the globalist agenda and the threat to our sovereignty I see that organisation presents. I know Mr Peters rejects that view but he has been wrong on occasions in the past.

    I particularly reject the notion tax taken here can be used by the UN to redistribute wealth. i resent every dollar of tax taken and wasted by our government; sending anything, expending anything, on the UN, is the height of wasted effort by our tax paying businesses and citizens.

    Pleased to note the Clinton Foundation waste has been finally shut down. Our supposed leadership was very slow on that matter.

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    • I think he should have met with them and told them face to face. He would have more cred with both sides if he did.

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        • Yes Rachael, and those that disagree are directly responsible for the Labour led government of today. It is the same elitist puritanical mentality that gave National no mates to form a government, even as the most popular party.

          He should hold his ground on this, but have the guts and skills to do it face to face. He needs to pull his nose out of the bible and into reality.

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    • The above interview with Simon was nothing to do with yesterdays msm headline about the mongrel mob. Simon slams the COL’s policy to keep criminals on the street instead of behind bars.

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    • 68% say yes.
      I don’t think there is a surplus – Housing NZ and DHB’s that 4.5bill then add the Kiwirail 2bill joke and you have no surplus.

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    • Just shows how stupid NewsHub is –they cannot work out it is not a total cash surplus which not all is available to spend or pay off debt.
      Someone needs to educate them on what an asset revaluation is, let alone a phoney one like the KiwiRail stupidity.

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        • Also DN, if we take the $4.5 billion you mention, the $1.5 billion Kiwi Rail joke and the $1.5billion from the IRD method changes there is actually NO surplus at all as you say above, in the normal sense of a surplus.

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  7. Where’s Jethro?
    Last seen hiding from a tiger in the bush in some jungle!
    I don’t watch breafast tv, the news or get a newspaper.
    No word, was he in Japan or on the NY shopping trip?
    Cuzz no mention of him flapping his gums, is all well at home?
    edit,
    Maybe Mike Bush can put out a statement!

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  8. Here is why I support Trump. He is not an interventionist war monger:

    President Donald Trump has threatened to destroy Turkey’s economy if the country goes “off limits” following his surprise decision to pull US forces out of north-eastern Syria.

    Mr Trump initially tweeted on Monday he had been elected on “getting out of these ridiculous endless wars” and that “Turkey, Europe, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Russia and the Kurds will now have to figure the situation out”.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49966216

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    • Yes I agree.
      I have always supported the Kurds.
      But they are divided into 2 or 3 factions with different agendas.
      So its a mess, like all of the middle east.

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      • My point is not about who we support. It’s about the Middle East not being our business.

        He should also cut Israel lose. They are in no way an ally of the USA or the West. They have cost the USA trillions of dollars and are the real reason we at war with Islam. Israel is based on fanatical religious extremism.

        We can trade and enjoy good relations with them, but we should not be involved in their religious disputes and endless wars. They are also parasites who suck trillions from the West, in spite of being a rich country.

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        • Down ticked by a religious extremist. You guys are so easy to flush out, I don’t know why the cops find it so hard.

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  9. Plants are made up of 95% CO2. They are literally made out of thin air. Its incredible but true. As we breath out CO2 we lose mass. Trees absorb CO2 and increase mass.

    If you put a plant in a pot and weigh it, then allow it to grow, without adding any soil or anything but water, it will increase in weight and size. The solid mass is all from CO2.

    I bet Greta does not know this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KZb2_vcNTg

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    • Due to her failing to show up at school very often I doubt she would know bugger all about anything. Mind you, being the only person on the planet who can see C02 is an interesting talent.

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    • The Extinction of Reason

      It never occurred to them to raise the deeper purpose of Extinction Rebellion. Its leaders have been quoted as hailing the movement as “the best chance we have of bringing down capitalism” and that people “might die” in the process of “bringing down governments”. As the Telegraph reported:

      “They were exposed in an investigation for the think tank Policy Exchange by Richard Walton, a former counter-terror chief, who warned that XR should be treated as an extremist anarchist group intent on “revolution” aimed at achieving a breakdown of the state and democracy.”

      It never occurred to the BBC to ask who might be behind Extinction Rebellion, since a coordinated world-wide movement like this does not arise through spontaneous action.

      https://www.nzcpr.com/the-extinction-of-reason/

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      • The unwashed members of Extinction Rebellion are only the shock troops of the globalists. The globalist’s seat of power is the UN & unless ordinary people can be made to face this fact we’re fucked . Witness:

        …….”We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy…Basically it’s a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization…One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore.””…..

        “Ottmar Edenhoffer, high level UN-IPCC official:

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        • These people are hangovers from the cold war. They are outright communists who are using different branding for PR purposes.

          Russia knows this better than anyone and look how they deal with these wankers!

          You won’t find them in Russia or China.

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    • Tony is really getting cut through with his videos Don. When I clicked on your link he had 11,600 views in 14 hrs. That is really impressive. His latest has 9000 views in 6 hours.

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    • Watch the next video. Really interesting from a non-climate believer. From approx 22 mins he does a breakdown of numbers such as in 2050 US households will have to be emitting less carbon than our great, great grandparents were 100 years ago.

      A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Global Warming
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZlICdawHRA

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  10. At the weekend I witnessed an incident while using the hotel toilet. There was a woman at the mirror as I entered who was putting on makeup who mistook the next woman for a man and directed him to the mens toilet. ‘She’ had a short-back and sides haircut and was dressed in mens’ trousers and shirt. When she was told “I am a woman” the first woman apologised but you could cut the atmosphere with a knife!
    I’ve been pondering why if you are a lesbian and get snippy at being mistaken for a man why you don’t have your own personal style instead of dressing just like a man?

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    • The woman was clearly transphobic and probably a white supremacist who was putting on black face not make up. I’ll let Paddy Gower know. Apart from that, I thought lesbians drank heavily and cut each others hair in the dark, which wouldn’t normally end up in short back and sides.

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      • The woman at the mirror was black I hadn’t considered she? (who knows these days) had been applying black face. 😀 She told the lesbian she only glanced at her when she came in. Well you do in a loo, nobody really looks at each other. The lesbian, or angry white woman with the barber style haircut was not a happy camper. Probably not her first rodeo!

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    • No doubt another Jew pervert. All the cancers that rot humanity can be traced to Jews.

      Just as Jews tend to remake the societies they invade into mirrors of the multiracial, multicultural cesspools in which they evolved, they also instinctively attempt to mold their host societies to match the high levels of sex perversion naturally present among Jews. Jews are far more likely to be homosexual than non-Jews, for but one example among many. As the two articles — from Jewish sources — excerpted below show, Jews have historically recognized and tolerated a number of bizarre sexual categories. (ILLUSTRATION: Rabbi Elliot Kukla, a female Jew who lives as a male)

      https://nationalvanguard.org/2016/05/jews-sexually-perverted-and-remaking-society-in-their-image/

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  11. The head of the new Climate Change Commission is Dr. Rod Carr ex of the Reserve Bank and Canterbury University. He is a very nice man, I have met him on a couple of occasions. Whether he has what it takes to be truly impartial and go against the “settled science” if he feels it necessary or not remains to be seen.

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  12. Move over Extinction Rebellion and Greta. Being a Woke vegetarian socialist is old news.

    Adolf Hitler’s food taster confirms he was a vegetarian
    Adolf Hitler’s food taster has confirmed that the dictator was a vegetarian, in her first ever interview.

    Margot Woelk, 95, told The Times (£) she was forced to taste the Nazi leader’s food from 1941 until November 1944 when he abandoned the Wolf’s Lair – a military headquarters – as the Russians closed in.

    “It was all vegetarian, the most delicious fresh things, from asparagus to peppers and peas, served with rice, and salads. It was all arranged on one plate, just as it was served to him,” she added.

    Ms Woelk said: “It was quite delicious, the best vegetables and cut fruit. There was no meat and I do not remember any fish. Drinks were delivered somewhere else, the SS took them, we did not have to try drinks.”

    https://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-02-09/adolf-hitlers-food-taster-confirms-he-was-a-vegetarian/

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  13. Review sparked by Czech drug smuggler saga finds Immigration Minister should be able to ask for advice in complex cases. Does the Government think the stupid after all the questions put to them in Parliament this is the best they can come up with.
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/review-sparked-czech-drug-smuggler-saga-finds-immigration-minister-should-able-ask-advice-in-complex-cases
    What a joke and the cost to get this result is beyond belief.

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    • He should have just asked the smugglers mate, Ardern.

      Remember they can destroy her career if they blab. But snitching is not the done thing in those circles. Its mutual favours. No wonder gangs and drugs have taken off since the Ardern regime came in. That is not coincidence. Meth is at record low prices ( while food and essentials are at record highs)

      I have no doubt in my mind she has links to the underworld. Look at the ease with which she lied and hid the truth about the sexual assaults of young staffers and kids. She is a crook.

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    • What was complicated about the Sroubek case?
      He entered under a false name and committed crime in NZ.
      End of. Bye Bye.

      Why would any Minister with half a brain need advice to deal with whatever-his-name-is-this-week?
      Unless …

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  14. Winston Peters condemns ‘malicious’ leak of New Zealand First members’ personal details
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/10/winston-peters-condemns-malicious-leak-of-new-zealand-first-members-personal-details.html

    This article is all rehashed news except for this;

    “Winston Peters is condemning a “deliberate and malicious” leak of New Zealand First members’ personal details to the media.”

    “The Deputy Prime Minister and NZ First leader voiced his outrage over the information being leaked on Twitter. The information included members’ names, phone numbers and paid membership statuses. “

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  15. If we take a step back and review the past few years, I’m pretty sure the implementation of our fearless leaders woke policies, have emboldened us to take on all the brand new fictitious challenges that life will throw up at us.
    Haha haha haha hah hah hah. Are you serious ? What a cuncha bunts.

    “Diversity is a strength” is a glib, onerous, empty aphorism that is shoved down our throats as a piece of received wisdom that only racists would deny.”

    New Peer-Reviewed Danish Academic Study Finds Diversity Is Not A Strength

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/new-peer-reviewed-danish-academic-study-finds-diversity-not-strength

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  16. Did anyone see this in the Herald today? If the police are investigating this then why have the not considered charging those who organized the Labour Youth Camp? No one died but someone certainly could have in a number of ways. There could have easily been a rape instead of sexual assault.

    Criminal nuisance charges will be part of police investigation into Dunedin student Sophie Crestani’s death, legal experts say

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12274734&ref=art_readmore

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  17. New pro-free speech, anti-sharia campaign in Denmark

    “Never have so many bullets been fired in Copenhagen, and never have so many bombs exploded in our capital, and never have so many cars been burned every day.
    Many of these incidents the Danish public don’t hear about, because Danish mainstream media is silent about these attacks.”

    Danish statistics say that in 2050, there will be more Muslims than Danish inhabitants of Denmark, so that is why we now have started our campaign.

    https://gellerreport.com/2019/10/new-pro-free-speech-anti-sharia-campaign-in-denmark.html/?fbclid=IwAR0oNxIixHdpqbnOG22mCnAJH6SCcaB0L5U-loy8-GdXXJnSqlqdWPrcnz4

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    • Years ago I I knew a bloke who would have been a shoo-in for the job V2. He was a professor in agricultural sciences at Massey University. He’d worked on the department’s “informal” contribution to cannabis culture namely in the development of new & better strains.

      He shattered my misconceptions about Ivy Tower types. A bigger pisshead, poacher & rooter would have been hard to find. 🙂

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  18. With the CLIMATE EMERGENCY !!!!! upon us it is about time Labour “did something” to create a sustainable electric vehicle fleet.

    They should immediately implement the following measures:

    1. Charge market rates for electricity at charging stations.
    2. A tax sufficient to cover the billions of dollars needed for infrastructure, by 2025.
    3. A tax to cover the 100’s of billions needed for new power plants.
    4. The usual taxes for ACC, Roading, infrastructure etc.
    5. Another tax to research ways of mitigating the huge environmental harm of making batteries.
    6. Another tax to run disposal facilities for the batteries.
    7. Another tax to pay for the loss of production in the economy by using electric.
    8. A 75% levy on the grand total of the above – for being a wanker.

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    • Surely not even Cindy, afloat with her own stardust, expects us to believe that Sroubek’s residency approval wasn’t ordered from above.

      We’re used to being conned but this is over the top.

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    • That story is a total cover up and another example of Labour blaming someone else. It is pure propaganda written by Party insiders and presented as news.

      It was outright corruption and the order to let him stay came from Ardern. Because he knows people who could end her reign of terror.

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      • Her mafiosa tendencies are all too apparent here.
        She must have spoken with Pisshead Pelosi.

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  19. Former NZTA worker ‘frustrated’ by agency’s failure to follow regulatory process
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/10/former-nzta-worker-frustrated-by-agency-s-failure-to-follow-regulatory-process.html

    “The period we are talking about is the last nine years of National Government.”

    National’s transport spokesperson Chris Bishop disagrees.

    “Phil Twyford is using what’s a very serious issue to make a political attack on the National Party,” says Bishop. “Frankly, he should be better than that.”

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    • The HQ of the organisation was rotten WG. Whether it was political interference, corruption or simple incompetence I know not.

      They had a cleanout of high level staff last year & IMHO overreacted with the WOF rechecks & the hounding of Kaitaia Transport.

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    • Fake news. The road toll is tiny and less than it was decades ago in spite of a massive increase in vehicles. The road toll hoax was created as a cover for more revenue gathering through fines. Hilariously the road toll went up when all these new measures were introduced.

      The increase in the road toll is due to city people trying to drive on the open road while distracted with electronic gadgets. They should ban entertainment systems and touch screens in cars if they are serious.

      How the hell can using a cars touch screen be any different to texting while driving?

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      • “How the hell can using a cars touch screen be any different to texting while driving?’

        Most of my controls are on my steering wheel. If I get a text I just need to touch the screen once and it will read it out. Big difference.

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  20. Nasska:

    It’s occurred to me that Redbaiter could recruit a few supporters for his 20-year Conservative campaign from the Extinction Rebellion groupies. If he tells them that “Conservative” is all about “Conservation”, they’ll sign up in droves! (And they could advise him on how to run effective toll bridge protests…)

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    • A cunning plan Nostra!

      Eventually they could merge & become Redbaiter’s Progs for Extinction army. Baity could glue himself to the Tauranga Harbour Bridge in remembrance of victories past. 🙂

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      • I have never read anyone as fantastically stupid as Red. His predictive abilities are demonstrably worse than even those of climate scientists.

        He did calm down noticeably when the Compulsory Gay Marriage Act came into force. No doubt too busy with his new man-wife.

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    • Ardern is only in power because of the personality cult the media created for her. She lacks the intelligence of the dictators mentioned in the article, but has a greater degree of malice and evil than they had.

      Remember the other leaders faced harsh times. Ardern does not, yet wants the ruthless domination of her subjects anyway.

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      • Ha bloody ha. Ardern appears to have been caught out again telling porkies.

        No doubt she will throw twit twyford under the bus.

        She is really pissing off the good folk in Auckland.

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    • Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Marx, etc didn’t have the internet to contend with – easier to contain the spread of free speech by those who haven’t been sucked in to their propaganda.

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  21. The Wellington council want to ban people fishing around the entire coast of Wellington, because the sorts of white educated middle class pricks that inhabit Wellington would never do anything as low brow as fishing.
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    The Greater Wellington Regional Council is being urged to establish a blue belt to protect the entire coast of the region.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/400623/candidates-support-blue-belt-protection-of-wellington-coast

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    • Thomas Nash said it was the responsibility of the regional council to safeguard Wellington’s waterways and marine life.

      He’s right.

      It’s also the responsibility of the regional council to:
      – ensure that buses and trains run on time
      – make sure that the park gardens are maintained
      – educate the LGBTI+ community about appropriate and inappropriate public displays of affection (no hero parades allowed).
      – organise compulsory showers (with soap) for environmental protesters who have body odour issues
      – [feel free to add to the list]

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  22. A question put up on a blog site.

    What’s going to happen when the mass public realizes that almost everything that’s been passed along as “truth” by the education, scientific, and religious institutions over countless generations has been fabricated to keep their limitless potential from them?

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    • The Science folk will use spin to cover their failed predictions…. they’ll fool the masses by saying they were doing the best they could with the information/technology they had available…

      Religion will never disappear.. there’ll always be folks who want to believe that some mumbo-jumbo uttered today can influence events in the future…

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      • Yes they will. But imagine trying to get public buy in on a real environmental threat in the wake of something that big.

        There are real environmental risks that are not getting the attention they deserve, because they are not linked to the climate change funding economy.

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          • I’m on the winning side. At the moment we are losing the battle, but we will win the war on this climate nonsense.

            However I am an environmentalist, who believes our way of living and economy are flawed. So I want change. But I am not prepared to lie about the weather to bring that change.

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    • Future generations will regard climate alarmists in the same way we regard flat earthers and those physicians who thought blood loss was the answer to any affliction.
      Granted we should be taking better care of our part of the world, but the woke luvvies who preach ‘The End is Nigh’ have no concept of the vastness of the universe and our insignificance in it.

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