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  1. Brave new councillor Andrew Hollis, says he is not racist . Mens goon Meng Foon , says he should resign. I support Hollis. He believes full and final should be full and final .He’s right. ( note men’s goon is the result of predictive)

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    • Yes I support Andrew as well (‘m going to email him today)
      Yes full and final means full and final.
      And the last Waitangi claims if and when they are settled should include the clause.
      This settlement is full and final and forever.

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    • I’d venture to say that Trumps is understated.
      The looney left make it unwise to express a contrary opinion unless one is protected by the sanctity of the ballot box.

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  2. Re Brexit
    I’m all for Brexit, mainly to keep British sovereignty and control of immigration.
    But all the explanations of the latest deal do not mention these two facets.
    The “journalists” hide this or forget to mention it
    It seems that Boris is going to pay the 39 billion band getting trade deals, but what else?

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    • DN. Firstly the UK Parliament are at it again. There was meant to be a vote on Boris’ “deal”
      (really a surrender deal like Mays) over night –NZ time. But the voted to delay that vote.

      To answer your question about what else it in it here is a list of some key aspects. Apologies for the length but it is worth reading it all.

      ” Brexit factsheet no.7 – The EU’s new UK Colonisation Treaty. A layman’s summary of the EU’s new ‘UK colonisation treaty’ agreed by the PM yesterday

      1. Parliament will not be sovereign – UK still to be governed by existing and new laws of the ECJ – a foreign court – and with no say over these laws. [WA articles 4, 87, 89 and 127, PD para 131]

      2. Demands payment of a sum to be decided by the EU – minimum £39 billion but this is likely to increase, and the EU decides the final sum. This must be paid BEFORE any trade deal is agreed. [WA articles 138-144, and 152-155]

      3. No trade deal with EU – Not included, as this is just a divorce treaty. Any EU trade deal must ensure “a level playing field for open and fair competition” and “deep regulatory and customs cooperation”. This will make it difficult for the UK to reduce non-tariff barriers in trade deals with USA, Australia, China, etc. [PD paras 17 & 21]

      4. Prevents independent tax policy – Political Declaration still obliges UK to adopt a future relationship which will impose EU State Aid rules and “relevant tax matters” on the UK. EU specifically intends to curb UK’s ability to have “harmful tax practices”. Withdrawal Treaty also applies EU law to UK during transition period – allowing EU to sue UK, including infringement proceedings for as yet unidentified breaches of State Aid rules and billions in VAT on commodity derivative transactions dating back to 1970s. [PD para 77, WA articles 86, 93, 127].

      5. Restricts independent foreign policy – UK to be bound by International Agreements concluded by the EU despite having no influence in their negotiation during the transition period and must “refrain, during the transition period, from any action… which is likely to be prejudicial” to the interests of the EU. [Articles 129(3) and (6)].

      6. Prevents independent military action – UK permanently stopped from taking “any action likely to conflict with or impede” EU’s foreign policies. Critical parts of section on foreign policy and security are not reciprocal, e.g. future relationship will not “prejudice the decision-making autonomy of the EU” but no such language applies to the UK – we are only permitted to “maintain the right to determine how [to respond] to any invitation to participate in operations or missions”. Also, parties “agree to consider” security collaboration in European Defence Agency, European Defence Fund, and PESCO “to the extent possible under [EU law]” which is a prescriptive (not permissive) obligation. Despite paying for European Defence Agency during transition, British troops in EU battle groups will not be led by British staff officers. [WA articles 129(6-7) and 156-157 and PD paras 99, 102(c)]

      7. Controls UK fishing – Common Fisheries Policy continues in UK waters during transition (which can be extended) but UK will have no say in implementation or enforcement. After transition, Political Declaration requires “cooperation on… regulation of fisheries, in a non-discriminatory manner” = code for continuing current arrangements for EU access to UK waters. Any trade deal to “ensure service providers and investors are treated in a non-discriminatory manner, including with regard to establishment” – prevents UK protecting quotas from EU purchase. [PD paras 29 and 72]

      8. Replaces one EU Commission with another – New body established with “powers equivalent to those of the European Commission”. UK must accept exclusive jurisdiction of Arbitration Panel and judgments of ECJ. Grants EU officials criminal immunity and exemption from UK tax. Imposes gagging order on UK which must keep all EU information confidential but EU can use UK information as it sees fit. [WA articles 74, 101, 104-5, 106-116, 159, 168, 174]

      9. Leaves UK with €500bn liabilities from EU Investment Bank but no profits – No rights to past and future profits made from UK investment in EIB, no rights to UK share of assets of EIB, yet UK remaining liable for risk of up to €500bn of guarantees. UK must let EU bid for UK public projects at least during transition. [WA articles 34, 75-78, 127, 143, 147, 150].

      10. EU colonisation – makes UK bystander in laws that govern it – UK permitted to send civil servant to Brussels to observe EU passing laws designed to disadvantage UK economy during transition which might last many years. EU could regulate London’s huge foreign exchange markets, impose financial transaction tax that would be collected at UK expense by HMRC but sent to foreign governments. [WA article 34]

      Prepared by Brexit Facts4EU.Org with advice from a Brussels-based barrister.

      For more information: https://facts4eu.org/news/2… “

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  3. The incremental approach of sharia law,
    The incremental approach to the term of islamophobia,
    The incremental approach to censorship.
    The incremental approach to ban guns here , all guns there.
    The incremental approach to remove all swords, machetes and knives.

    and so incremental approach on the Crusaders is accepted.
    NZ Rugby boss Steve Tew said at the time that the removal of medieval theme was an appropriate first step,
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12277161

    Such wise and clever people, who will also attend mosques on Friday and seek other laws to apply. // 🙁

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    • Changing our whole lives for something no New Zealander had anything to do with. What a sterling idea. What next do you think? This col has wrecked NZ and we will never be the same.
      Winestone is such an unbelievable person I saw him on the news last night Chanel 10 as more than 30 minutes of news weather and sport is more than enough, he was smug and arrogant, he is an egotist, narcissistic bully. The way he spoke to the gun lobby people was disgraceful.

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      • He was also very rude to Tova O’Brien
        Agree he is a nasty, smarmy egotistical piece of work that never answers a question.
        Years ago if he had been more straight and honest he may have got somewhere

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        • “Now listen here sonny.” Winston believes he is far too clever to ever be held accountable for lying even though he knows we know he is.

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        • You say:-
          Peters was rude to Tova No’Brain.
          That’s fine by be but he might have Jami Lee coming after him to defend her honour… cough cough !!

          Peters hates TV3 with a passion. I’m not sure why precisely but he has some selected buckets of hate that he pours disdain into. National Pardy are another one as is the Gweens.
          That is his modus operand and it wont change now.

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    • If people have the time, Stephen Coughlin a US., intelligence analyst (ret.), that understands koran, hadith & sira, as well as being aware of many other ‘stresses’ in communities.
      Interviewed by Ramus Paludan, a new Danish Party leader, seeking to understand the future of Denmark and why there is so much immigration.
      How the “incremental” approach on many things and where it may lead, and how it is being done.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=ynoZ2pliWX8
      36 min. 42 sec..

      They talk how the different forces in the world, the politics that are at work to accommodate, and work together for what seems to be differing goals.

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  4. Gun owners force Winston Peters out of NZ First conference
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/gun-owners-force-winston-peters-nz-first-conference?auto=6096032638001

    “About a hundred disgruntled licensed gun owners have descended on the New Zealand First conference to tell the party leader Winston Peters that they feel like victims.

    The group holding placards across the road from the party’s conference in Christchurch got the attention of Mr Peters who spoke to them.”

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  5. Andy Asquith stood for mayor and council in Palmerston North and missed out.
    So he’s going to write an Acedemic Paper about it!
    Yep. That’ll work! Yah woke little jessie!

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      • I have no idea. I have no interest in the man or his “music”. Tucker Carlson says he doesn’t know anything about him either, but an “influential” black man meeting Trump while wearing a MAGA hat and pronouncing his support for Trump gave encouragement to others to speak an alternative message. He rattled the woke by not being what they expected.

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  6. Making us safer? Even the treasury doesn’t think so. Cindy bin Lying to us all along.

    NZ TREASURY ADVICE ON GUN BUYBACK: LITTLE EVIDENCE IT WILL AVOID
    GUN-RELATED DEATHS
    Treasury supported the option of a buyback scheme in a report to Finance
    Minister Grant Robertson on March 20, but its next preferred option for
    funding a buyback scheme was to axe it completely and simply have an
    amnesty for people to hand in prohibited firearms. Among the pros listed,
    the report says: “Lack of evidence that gun buy-back will avoid future
    gun-related death and injury, so this option may achieve some of the
    benefits without associated costs.” By Derek Cheng. Political reporter for
    the New Zealand Herald – 17 Oct, 2019

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12277399

    https://treasury.govt.nz/sites/default/files/2019-10/firearms-t837-4087744.pdf

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  7. This sale of TV3 has really brought home to many people.

    1 That many people, especially the under 49’s hardly ever watch broadcast tv.
    2 That many people have realised that the MSM is all left wing bias and propaganda, so that is another reason they do not watch it.

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    • Attempts to attract the under 49s have resulted in crass and banal programmes like 7Sharp that have alienated the 50+ audience.
      Falling ratings have been met with doubling down on unsuccessful strategies.
      TV3 might be an attractive proposition for someone with enough nous to meet audience expectations.
      Then it’ll be goodnight kiwi for TVNZ.

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        • So the problem is the journalist!
          Everyone wants to bypass them!
          Why would you be a journalist, it’s a dying job!

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          • You say
            Why would you be a journalist

            To tell lies, repeat others lies and be woke and broke.
            Being low IQ and in a bubble of wokeness they missed the connection of being woke leads to broke.

            Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

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      • Yes, the poorly educated children are trying to entertain an aging population and failing.
        The incessant repeats. personal assessments and advertising of a shiitty program is the same as the dweebs in journalism thinking that, by interviewing an interviewer about an interview that showed someone interviewing someone, is breaking news.
        The trivial passes as content, as they’re too lazy to actually get outside their chambers of wokeness.
        How about they listen to their own advice, like this lady.
        21 secs.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXJMWwSICHg

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        • TV is social engineering and propaganda. Every program is designed to promote extreme left positions. The news is pure bullshit designed to divide us and sow fear and hate.

          Every program and advertisement seems to feature gays, brown folk etc. It is seldom you will ever see a straight white family, unless they are being portrayed negatively.

          The people behind this are terrorists attempting to totally destroy our society and enslave us. But Kiwis are too mild and stupid to see it.

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          • Just look at the ads on tv, there they have the full range of gays, muzzies, etc etc. The only thing they are missing is the short, ugly, pink haired feminist!

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                • I’m doing something wrong. When I do that I see a bunch of white couples. Same with white male. Maybe 1 in 15 is the wrong image, but the page data has some context. What are you seeing?

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                  • The majority of images have captions that show mass murderers, white apologists, pale stale male revolt, white privilege, angry white males and criminals.
                    Look beyond the images and a narrative unfolds.
                    White man bad.
                    Type in Black couples and black males.
                    Black man so good.

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                    • That’s not what I got, but I understand your point. Part of that would simply be the content people are putting online. Search engines can only show what is made available to them and when was the last time you saw anything positive being reported about white men?

                      However, there is also a tailoring of narrative by search engines and Google is the opposite of their “do no evil” slogan. Better off using DuckDuckGo and Brave, etc.

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                • googled “all” white male, not images, and the first 8 comes up with:-
                  1 angry –
                  2 privilege-
                  3 war, violence, mass shootings,-
                  4 corporate proteges, hurting woman of colour.-
                  5 rage, radicalized-
                  6 anger.-
                  7 middle age. face of government-
                  8 entitlement, colonization-.

                  Seems there will be plenty of fight still left in them. 🙂

                  Would this also be influenced by the things that we google up?

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      • You say
        ….TV3 might be an attractive proposition for someone with enough nous to meet audience expectations….

        No. Television is about 2 things.
        1. Content and 2. broadcast method.
        The self proclaimed stars don’t matter.
        Having lots of fat, woke, bolshie lesbians is not reaching much of an audience.

        Their content is clearly crap and the medium of now is Netflix, Youtube, amazon Prime, and similar.
        It is the over 55s that want to watch broadcast TV as a convenience but sounds like they are not being catered to.
        Broadcast TV will become special interest as time goes by eg religious programming, and home improvement stuff as is now on the likes of Choice channel .

        How many cities can you base CSI or NCIS in before its becomes mindlessly repetitive?
        If you had real murderous stuff like CSI Lagos or CSI Tijuana then shit just got real !

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    • Yikes, that is pretty incredible as I would not have thought Wine stone would have been their cup of tea…. When are we ever going to get a normal lot in government? My guess is never. Hate to be a doomsayer but think this is the beginning of the end.

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      • Voting for the bro was the way to go! “Blood” is thicker than keeping up with current political issues and who will be competent to run the country.

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    • Makes sense in a very corrupt country where cheating and lying is de rigueur.

      My only question: did they get to eat the Tim Tams first to empty the box?

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  8. Woke urbanite preaching against “lethal” car culture. Now she wants e-bikes subsidized (fuck off, pay for your own toys) and more road space devoted to cycling. Because apparently you can fit a family of 5 onto an e-bike and carry their weekly groceries. And everybody should live like her.

    When will people start living their way for themselves and leave other people to live however they like. We don’t all need to be like Caroline Shaw, who seems to be stuck on an anti-car crusade looking at her post history.

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    • Does she ride her bike to catch the plane for her frequent overseas trips, the educated middle class are obsessed with?

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  9. Did anyone watch the Trump rally in Texas a couple of days ago? I have a $100 bet with a centre left friend of mine. He has a PhD in American politics. He thinks it unpresidential to have names for opponents like lying Hillary. He is right of course but it gets him votes. Who thinks I will win my bet?

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    • Look at the filth and abuse of anti Trumpers. Trump has a few humorous names for them in return.

      If your bet is that Trump will win, then you are probably going to win that one. If the current Democrats got in, the USA would be better off with a civil war.

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  10. They can’t stand each other.

    Obama vs Clintons

    Let the games begin.

    Thank you President Trump, for exposing these swamp creatures.

    Interesting that its his final Martha’s Vineyard visit.

    Does Gitmo have a golf course Barry?

    Obama snubs Hillary Clinton’s fundraising spree on his final Martha’s Vineyard vacation – and doesn’t even drop in on Bill to wish him happy 70th

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3752383/Obama-snubs-Hillary-Clinton-s-fundraising-spree-vacation-island-doesn-t-drop-Bill-wish-happy-70th.html

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  11. This is an interesting read.

    Europe Is Turning Against Free Trade

    “I have been struck by a rather marked changed of tone among eurocrats in recent months, both among the incoming administration of future Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and the éminences grises of EU think-thanks. Von der Leyen herself has said she will “introduce a Carbon Border Tax” in order “to ensure our companies can compete on a level playing field.” This would presumably be a tariff according to amount of carbon that went into producing a product, hitting China and other industrial exporters most. A carbon tariff has been a long-time ask for protectionist-leaning French politicians.”

    http://www.unz.com/gdurocher/europe-is-turning-against-free-trade/

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  12. Hello I just found a site called BFD
    They say they are centre right
    Does anyone know anything about them?

    Also is Radio New Zealand referred to as Red Radio or is that another station?

    Just for interest I listed to Magic Talk mostly and Mike Hoskin on Newstalk ZB in the mornings.
    Am I being wise?

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  13. About time we closed down the race relations office. Meng Foon is just another hand wringing dickhead.
    From our friends at Hobsons Pledge

    “Another councillor, another politically incorrect comment
    A new Tauranga councillor who made politically incorrect comments about the Treaty and Treaty settlements on Facebook has got the new Race Relations Commissioner in a fizz.

    According to the New Zealand Herald, new Tauranga councillor Andrew Hollis said:

    “There is a general feeling out and around New Zealand where every generation or so, there’s another group that stands up and says our forefathers didn’t get a good enough deal through the Treaty.”

    “And it seems to happen fairly frequently that the full and final settlement isn’t full and it isn’t final, and it goes on and on and on.”

    In a conversation with a local woman on Facebook, which got quite heated, Hollis suggested burning the Treaty.

    Race Relations Commissioner Meng Foon says Hollis should stand down, because “all elected members must swear an oath to abide by the Local Government Act which includes Treaty obligations”.

    If Meng Foon checked he would see that Treaty obligations in the Local Government Act 2002 are limited to providing “opportunities for Maori to contribute to the decision-making processes”, and not muzzling councillors from comments on Treaty policy.

    Hollis, who took the third-highest number of votes for councillors in Tauranga, joins Murray Chong of New Plymouth in a small group of elected local representatives who speak freely on social media.

    Chong ruffled feathers in January by saying on Facebook that he was ashamed to sing the national anthem in Maori.

    As elected representatives, councillors cannot be sacked, but they can be voted out. Chong was returned to the New Plymouth District Council last week despite his views on singing the Maori national anthem.

    For the critics of politically correct treatyism, councillors who exercise their freedom of speech are a breath of fresh air, and Meng Foon, by continuing to react in his snippy race relations role, looks like a gift that will keep on giving.”

    http://www.hobsonspledge.nz

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  14. NZ First conference: No policy announcement from Peters
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/401393/nz-first-conference-no-policy-announcement-from-peters

    “The National Party didn’t escape Mr Peters’ attention in his speech again, today, a lambasting yesterday – Peters told the audience the party had learned nothing from their mistakes in previous decades.

    “Unless they change, and we hope they do, a future National facing economic headwinds will embark on austerity policies, condemning New Zealand to more social fall-out.

    “We hope they change but the fact is New Zealand First, right now, as a party of the centre, is the National Party, when it had a capital N – when it put New Zealand first,” he said.”

    Yeah, yeah Winston, change the bloody record.

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    • Winston Peters admits there’s a ‘succession plan’ for New Zealand First leadership
      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/10/winston-peters-admits-there-s-a-succession-plan-for-new-zealand-first-leadership.html

      “When asked by Newshub why he took this approach, he responded: “I’m just saying we stand for the national interest and we’re proud of it.”

      “I don’t think I did talk about National so much at all,” he added.

      But there were a dozen mentions – more than twice that if you count all the National MPs he name-checked.”

      Winston seems obsessed with National. What else is he going to talk about as the COL have failed in every policy they have touched. Winston is trying to shift where the voters are looking. He may as well be shouting: Look over there 👉

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      • Looking at him, he’s on his last legs. Cannot come soon for him. Talk about a succession plan only reinforces my thoughts on his imminent demise.
        Ever the very poor comic, his fixation on National only highlights how very little his PTPM and her band of useless fiddlers really are. No mention about any successful policies, no new policy announcements.

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        • All true but he is NZ First & NZ First is him. He has charisma which is the X factor in politics.

          As does Ardern. As did Key, Clark, Lange, Muldoon. No party any of them lead succeeded after they left.

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          • Interesting though that he was challenged on the drug testing issue despite his foot stamping on it the other day. And it was carried. Also interesting that there is talk of succession. Never done that before and some of those interviewed were happy to have it mentioned.

            Of course as we have learned just recently all the funds are at the disposal of his mate and himself.

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            • We must thank all the rugby players gone past for Whinestones rugby injuries, which is coming to a head as the old boy is talking about who will replace him!
              How long will he last?
              Will he step down before the next election?
              Will he implode the COL?

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    • ..”when it put New Zealand first,” he said.”
      The booze has finally rotted the drunken dwarf’s brain. He is delusional. He should be stood down.

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    • 300 arriving back in Delhi courtesy of Mexico Airlines!
      Go Donald.
      Send them back.
      Thousands of illegal use Mexico each day trying to get into the USA on trains at night.
      Many are from Africa!
      As well as Central America
      And now India!

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  15. Michael Cheika quits as Wallabies coach after Rugby World Cup exit to England
    19:17, Oct 20 2019

    Michael Cheika has quit as Wallabies coach after their Rugby World Cup exit to England.

    MORE TO COME

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  16. In Australia radio hosts, first Chris Smith and now George Moore.
    hmmm seems like another conservative pressured away.

    he was unable to sign off on a new agreement with management going forward. The money they offered was good but the terms, he explained, weren’t acceptable.
    Read more at: https://radioinfo.com.au/news/breaking-george-moore-quits-macradio © Radioinfo.com.au

    Well how profitable will they be now?

    Also remember the pressure on Alan Jones but at least he has hung on and I think even doing better.

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  17. If you haven’t been to see “The Joker” yet what are you waiting for? Probably the best movie so far this century and ALL the right people hate it! Nice reprise of the subway train scene from Charlie Bronson in “Death Wish” and the bit where Robert de Niro “gets what he deserves” is worth the ticket price alone 🙂

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