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    • Gee, I just saw some footage on Aljazeera, the guys that pinned him down were very brave, they got a very big knife off him.
      Especially when you think that he said he had a bomb attached to him!

      Then it looks like the police pulled the guys off him and then they shot him about 5 times at point blank range.
      Kea will not be very pleased.

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        • Nope – if this was NZ the guy that tackled him would be facing life in prison for Islamaphobic hate crimes, and Commissioner Mike Bush would be making a statement right now that Clark Gayford was not under investigation in relation to this incident.

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            • When she made her apology concerning DC10 flight that went down was she wearing her NZ Airline captains cap.

              She must have a wardrobe full of hats by now.
              I briefly saw her on TV tonight. She looks like a wing nut. That thing is not well.

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      • There ya go. Civilians neutralized the threat. Cops came and shot him 5 times.

        I have no problem killing terrorists or acting in self defense. But that is murder.

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        • Come come Kea, I think that so long as Judge Russel Collins could be got on to the case, we’ll find that the Police shooting was at the lower end of the offending scale and they should be discharged without conviction.

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        • Murder lolz i would have plugged the fucker a few more time ya know just in case at least we know he wasn’t white the headlines would be screaming by now

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        • What did he expect?
          Dressing up in a what turned out to a fake explosive vest!
          Shouda put a bit more padding in it. But that would not stop a bullet to the head!
          I say well done to all the people there that helped!

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        • Brave members of the public may have dispossessed the murderous thug of his knife, but the threat from the bomb he had strapped to himself was still present.
          In your rush to condemn Police for shooting the bastard, you may have overlooked the potential for everyone in the area to be splattered all over the sky.
          Unfortunately for the fake bomb wearer, Police didn’t stop to ask if he was only kidding. I’m comfortable with that.

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            • There is no such entity in Arabic, Diggy. The only “kidding” they do is pumping out as many sprogs as possible from their four wives to outpopulate the whiteys and westerners to make the whole world “Dar al Islam”. 🙂

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        • Kea, The guy had a hoax explosive vest on, which of course looks like an explosive vest.
          Civilians had not neutralised the threat.
          Shooting him dead the moment the public were clear (who in that case PREVENTED the police using deadly force earlier) was the right thing to do in that moment.
          Otherwise he might have killed the half dozen near him.

          Do you ever engage critical or contextual thinking?
          PDS – Police Derangement Syndrome?

          So strangling a girl to death is certainly not murder, but police shooting a jihadi piece of shit who just stabbed two people to death and had what appeared to be a suicide vest on WAS murder?

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        • The craven boot lickers are out grovelling in force today. Stalin and Hitler would have found you pieces of human garbage most useful.

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        • Turns out the attacker has been detained before.
          Maybe the cops just called a halt to ‘tag and release’?
          Nobel peace prize nominees.

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      • This one has them sussed
        “99,99% chance it’s the religion of peace (aka pieces) at play again. Naturally that’d be those pesky Amish zealots. Yes that’s sarcasm. Wake the F up people!! This pattern and increasing number of incidents ha been clear for several years now.”

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    • You only had to look at the black friday sale crowds to see why their confidence will be positive, even the poor seem to find money for this and the Xmas sales. Then next year will come and it will slide downs again when the cost of sending your children to school kicks in and the have to pay back the money they borrowed.

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    • The demand for protein from China, because of the African Swine Fever in Pigs has killed many pigs.
      The demand for NZ beef, lamb, mutton in particular, and also will under pin dairy products also has certainly hit a high, and the usual late winter peak is forecast to continue into the summer.
      Many other business’s will see and hear that farmers circumstances are changing, and can see that farming related products, posts, wire, for fencing off those water ways, nurseries for riparian tree plantings contracts, and busy to plant farm forests.
      Farm sustainability plans being drawn up, with well paid consultants & advisers, and then Council staff, flocking to check all that over.
      Upgrades for some machinery, and of course the house to catch up.
      Hopefully some debt paid off, and like all capital expenditure, attracts more taxes.

      Any lament is about wool prices, which seem to be so bio degradable. There are world wide protests against “fossil fuel” carpets, & clothing, but the cheaper synthetic designer styles hold sway.
      It is a protein, and one twist has been to put it into cat food, which claims to be very healthy for the cat..
      Now how can it be feed to humans?, Perhaps to vegans, under the point, that there was no murder done, and just a “hair cut” or like biting finger nails, seeking keratin protein. 🙂
      Some how replace sugar, and so more healthy? 🙂

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      • Further to the wool comment.
        wool’s 95% protein composition means it could prove to be a good food source in a world seeing ever growing demand for protein options to feed a growing population.

        Scientists have come up with a process that can extract 85-95% of wool’s proteins which also contain valuable fibres that encourage gut microbe growth.
        https://www.bayleys.co.nz/news/rural/wool-options-open-up-with-research

        Late last century, the wool price used to rival the milk price, and so sheep were able to keep dairy farming at bay.
        That relatively has long gone in the “coarse wool,” carpet wool, field,

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  1. Greta Thunberg misses climate protest after boat hit by high winds
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2019/11/greta-thunberg-misses-climate-protest-after-boat-hit-by-high-winds.html

    Swedish activist Greta Thunberg had been due to join a student strike in Lisbon but her environmentally friendly voyage across the Atlantic from New York by sailboat was hit by high winds, delaying her by a few days, she told her social media followers.

    “We wish she’d been here, but the movement has to carry on without her. We’ve got to send our message and pressure politicians ahead of the climate summit,” Marianna Louca, 14, told Reuters.

    If Greta had caught a commercial flight she could have been there for the limelight moment. //

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    • So instead she’s stuck on a yacht in the middle of the Atlantic, spewing her guts up in the high seas. (the little tart is reputedly a poor sailor).

      Virtue signalling has its price! 🙂

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    • The boat can fuclkng sink for all I care. She has caused so much distress in young children, she should be charged for crimes against humanity.

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  2. Posted late last night, as brought up by ‘Braybots Nemisis’
    Bn, thanks, as losing “free speech” dramatically changes Western Civilization.

    The mainstream of Germany’s society, the EU, and much of the Western world, seem to very much follow these policies,
    Sadly very believable of Angela Merkel, as the deaf, blind & mute monkey.

    Angela Merkel says: we have to take away your freedom of speech, or else society won’t be free.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/stunning-globalist-angela-merkel-to-german-parliament-we-have-to-take-away-your-freedom-of-speech-or-we-wont-be-free/

    Why do academia, politicians, educationalists, media, largely follow and support this? 🙁
    Debate, discuss, Reason, find the facts, so the truth can stand!
    It is becoming where “Truth is No Defense” as being experienced in the EU.

    How can one convince people to see things in a broader context? to figure on learning more information, and then processing that for deeper understanding, to gain some wisdom?

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    • Its very hard to stand up for what you believe in this evil politically correct globalist, socialist anti white dominated media world.
      When you have sites lie Google, Youtube and Facebook censorship stuff.

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    • This is coming to NZ in the next three year cycle, regardless of who wins the election – either Marxist Cindy, or closet sky-fairy progressive Simple Soimon will.

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  3. The Transport Agency is to take over owning and running speed cameras from police.

    RNZ reported in May that police no longer wanted to manage the camera network because of rising costs and the belief it did not align with core police work.

    The government yesterday announced the transfer of the operations as part of a suite of changes.

    These include dropping speed limits around schools, boosting the number of speed cameras and introducing speed camera warning signs.

    The government said it expected the changes to become law by the middle of next year.

    The Transport Agency said the transition would take about two years to enable a smooth change over – with the cost currently not known.
    https://www.newsie.co.nz/news/167915-transport-agency-to-take-over-speed-cameras-from-police.html?fbclid=IwAR185J2LzWM8qNWJM80-xsO9yRFRNxurCGXvgwKqIMojXot7QZc0mxQb-dw

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    • Two years to make a smooth change over……what nonsense. One part of the state apparatus is going to hand over this revenue gathering mechanism to another. We were advised the revenue went to the state, what is the problem that justifies two years of salary costs to get a smooth transition.

      As if any road user expects a smooth transition between these outfits. Who would know or care if the transition, let’s call it a transfer, from one to another is smooth. The road user loses either way.

      When I think about the present overly restrictive speed limitations imposed by the incoming speed monitoring and infringement issuing agency, I wonder if the correct decision to transfer has been made.

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    • That is just great.
      Take an organisation that was formed by Annette King in 2008 which combined 2 functioning focused agencies into one unfocused dysfunctional crapola outfit.
      Let National ‘do nuffin’ not reverse this decision enacted months before they took over govt in 2008.

      Let NZTA roll out and stuff up pretty much all its functions.
      Allowed dodgy licencing to occur across the spectrum in taxi licences, car licences, truck licences run mainly by recently arrived corrupt arseholes from India.
      Allow the relatively simple process of issuing WOF turn into a broken situation. Tick 18 boxes. Pass /fail.
      Simple. Well not where NZTA pokes its nose.

      Allow NZTA to ‘supervise’ the building of the Kapiti Expressway to the point it had to be ‘fixed’ within a year.
      Kick out the Chairman and replace it with a fixit man. Stiassny. Replacement resigns after a short while.
      CEO stands down in 2018.
      Appoint new Chair Brian Roche mid 2019 who presided over the decline of NZ POST for 7 years and made 7 decisions in 7 years – where to hold the Christmas party.
      Make Phail Twyford the Minister in charge of all this with the crazy yankee tart as assistant and it is one gigantic cock up.

      Now throw in road cameras to this monumental fark up
      ..what could so wrong when NZTA are in charge?

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  4. The word “Politics” is derived from the the Greek “poly” meaning many & a “tic” which is a blood sucking insect.

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  5. The weather is good for the garden party and Simon’s this afternoon. I will be sure to ask why National does not ask why no one in Labour has been charged for suppling alcohol to minors and drunks. Following Judge Collins’ reasoning there would not have been any sexual assualts if drunkeness was not allowed. Megan Woods went to bed and left them to it.

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  6. I posted this on the other blog

    rightoverlabour
    “Ahh but didn’t she handle the Massacre so well? and that lovely apology on the Erebus disaster” FFS all she does really well is disaster porn. Knows nothing, can’t answer a single question with a straight answer, and keeps drug pushers and rapists as close company. Thanks Winston

    Thumb up 6 Thumb down 0REPLY REPORTNOVEMBER 30, 2019 7:49AM

    The Thanks Winston was followed by, you fucking ( insert words here that Mods will delete).

    That was deleted without the Mods doing their [deleted by Mod] notofication. I don’t mind Moderation, but at least inform the readers the post was modified.

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  7. I see that that piece of shit killed two people in London before a couple of real heroes pinned him to the ground.

    The Boris Johnson gave the typical respssne.
    We will not let terrorism defeat us, or change our way of life.
    (translation – I’m glad they never got me or any of my family, there are millions of targets for them so they can’t get us all)

    Send them all back

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  8. All taught in our schools and universities, based on a severe false premises.
    Print it all, what can go wrong. 🙁

    ……. In the Extinction Rebellion movement, for example, activists are quite certain they have learned that there is an alternative to markets as the means to economic prosperity. …..
    ……… we now live in a world where the creation of wealth is seen by many as requiring little more than the creation of more money. ……
    …….. nothing should be in short supply, since everything is bought with money and money need not be in short supply.
    Those who know only unlimited fiat money soon demand free healthcare and free higher education as a right. And why not?
    Unlimited money will pay for it. Into this never-never land comes demands for scrapping the fossil fuel underpinnings of our modern economy by those who understand nothing of how an economy works.
    But, apparently one does not need to understand technical limitations, because there are no technical limitations. ……..
    …….. only an Ebenezer Scrooge would deny funding the latest demanded government program.
    If wealth is so easy to create, many conclude only greed and cruelty are what stand between us and far greater prosperity for all. ……..

    https://mises.org/wire/hidden-link-between-fiat-money-and-increasing-appeal-socialism

    And so the social justice warrior, sincerely believes they are right, that extra spare and created money should be re-distributed more fairly in so many wishful fairy programs. 🙁

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  9. The movie ‘Official Secrets’ is out, and I highly recommend its viewing.

    I haven’t seen in it, but I will, in the not too distant future.

    Official Secrets is a 2019 British-American docudrama film based on the life of whistleblower Katharine Gun who leaked a memo detailing that the United States had eavesdropped on diplomats from countries tasked with passing a second United Nations resolution on the invasion of Iraq.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3vIYy38Fys

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  10. The suppression orders flung around and signed in haste to quell the uprising in France has meant the police have been able to secure funding for some ‘special’ riot control equipment.
    This 6 min video shows what happens when you disrupt the NWO’s plan.

    !!Discretion advised!! Graphic.

    AGREED-UPON CONTRACT NOV 19, 2019 – MULTI SHOT LAUNCHERS. CONTRACT VALUE 727,450 €UROS

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/DM4ccrR3FqfH/

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    • And here is a response the yellow vests can use now that the authorities have legitimized violence. Its cheap, very effective and just add Polystyrene and no matter how much you dress up like Darth Vader you still get a little hot under the collar and everywhere else. Works equally well on vehicles and police stations.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UjW6hQdjqA

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  11. NZ is not the only country with strange Judges. This case in France is almost beyond belief —a guy gets away with murder because he is high on pot. I had read about this case last year. Strange how it has dragged on for so long. Maybe they think people have short memories.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/french-prosecutors-drop-charges-against-muslim-screaming-allahu-akbar-who-beat-elderly-jewish-woman-and-tossed-her-from-3rd-floor-balcony-cuz-he-was-high-on-pot/

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    • Although I’m in favour of the legalisation of marijuana use I consider that, like alcohol, the use of recreational drugs should never be offered as an excuse or mitigating factor for crimes committed under the influence. Frank Zappa in The Real Frank Zappa Book put it well:

      “A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole.”

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    • As a regular pot smoker i can assure you the last thing we want to do is do anything involving strenuous exercise i haven’t thrown anyone off a building for ages but i now know what my excuse will be next time i do

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  12. Wellington gets ANOTHER “tax and spend” mayor

    I hear that Wellingtonians kicked out jackboot-licking soyboy Justin Lester only to find that their new Mayor is no better! So little Andy Foster’s solution to the fact that the Government wants as much congestion in Wellington as possible is – wait for it! A new fucking tax! That’s right the little lying bastard kept totally silent about this during his Mayoral campaign, then the moment ‘tax and spend’ Lester is seen off, out comes the mad socialist in Foster with a fucking congestion charge.

    Yes! That’s right! I keep on saying we all now know that whoever we vote for is lying to us and that they’ll never let on about the shitty, destructive things they want to impose on us (think Oil & Gas ban) until they get in to office. What I don’t understand is why these lying see you next Tuesdays are so bald-faced about it.

    The problem with Wellington’s congestion is not about the volume of traffic, it’s because the fucking NIMBYs stop all and every roading solution that would get ‘through’ traffic bypassing the city centre. Fix the RMA and roads and bypasses get built. Build a fucking overpass over the Basin, remove the fucktard cycle virtue-signalling lanes and return the car parks and the city will flow again – I mean FFS it’s only the size of a small provincial town in most developed nations little Andy – IT’S NOT FUCKING ROCKET SCIENCE!

    Well done Wellingtonians, you got rid of one useless lying socialist bastard and you replaced him with another useless, lying socialist bastard.

    (Although, I have to admit, I have enjoyed the amazing humiliation of soyboy Lester this year. I mean, has there ever been a more sad sack of shit than him when the PTPM didn’t even know he was a Labour candidate? And the joyous outcome of the recount case, when it turned out that the numbers were not really going to change at all and he was (as usual) proven to be just wasting rate payers money again. How bad do you have to be to have been turfed out after one term, I mean they have dogs in the US as mayors who can get re-elected – but Lester couldn’t!)

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    • The Foster in, Lester out ruse has played out wonderfully. Like for like.
      As todays pic says.
      A dog with two arseholes.
      When will we ever learn?……….sigh.

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    • Wallytonians voted for shit so don’t complain about the stench, on the other hand you can make his life miserable by hassling him on e-mail, his public appearances, at council meetings some may even leave messages on his car/ house etc becomes quite concerning when you become the centre of unwanted attention Foster. Nothing nasty of course just constant reminders of not saying what you really mean – and that can be just as concerning when Foster realises he has legitimised the technique. Foster may even change his mind in response to his public education.

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    • Until local body voting is restored to one rates bill, one vote then the results of the last 20 years will continue.

      This sensible approach was destroyed by that piece of eternal scum Geoffrey Palmer.
      Palmer was so, so bad that not only was he going to lose the 1990 election, they dumped his arse 7 weeks before the election so the loss would not be so bad.
      Jeez, even when they dumped angry Andy’s arse he got a cabinet position a few months later!

      Nonetheless the damage this nasty critter did in a few years lives with us today on many levels.
      Palmer would be in the top five finalists for the worst ever person for NZ.
      On a personal level he was a condescending prick but if a pretty girl sidled up he went all cooey.

      Either one rates bill, one vote
      or
      Scrap rates bill and charge a per resident fee as the main source of council revenue.
      Then you can have universal franchise.
      Pay, you get a say.

      One rates bill, one vote will have voting rates in local body elections back past 70% turnout as the people care and it is representation for taxation.
      It is the easier of the two to administer.
      The current method is a Merry Palmer’s* answer!
      This dogs breakfast leads to the odious results and will not improve while this is in place.

      * w*nker

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      • It is amazing that one can’t vote everywhere where one pays rates and that people that don’t pay rates can get to say how the money they DON’T pay gets spent. That’s not democracy that’s highway robbery!

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    • PTPM didn’t even know he was a Labour candidate
      Bullshit from Cindy yet again. She just didn’t want to be associated with another losing liarbour trougher.

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  13. Woke Wellington cafes are charging 50c to $1 for a small paper coffee cup. Effectively a massive price rise deguised as virtue signaling.

    Only happens once with me and I dont go back.

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    • Shrinkflation – immediate 50% price rise that is invisible to the CPI tracking system. Pretty soon Labour will introduce legislation to mandate that a NZ litre will be comprised of 1100ml and they’ll announce that they’ve made changes to increase the fuel efficiency of NZ’s vehicle fleet in another “nuclear moment” (sic).

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    • I have entirely given up buying take away coffee and hardly ever drink it in a cafe because they seldom serve it properly hot.

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      • They serve the coffee luke warm, so you scoff it down and have to buy another one, as you haven’t finished your meal. Same as deliver coffee before your meal gets there. Meal half eaten and need another coffee to wash it down and it takes forever to turn up!

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        • I seldom drink coffee with food except on the rare occasions when I have food for breakfast. My normal breakfast is one glass of orange juice and two cups of coffee.

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  14. Simpleton asks above: (7.30am)
    Why do academia, politicians, educationalists, media, largely follow and support this? 🙁
    Debate, discuss, Reason, find the facts, so the truth can stand!
    It is becoming where “Truth is No Defense” as being experienced in the EU.

    Tucker Carlson explains:
    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/11/28/tucker-carlson-liberals-democrats-hate-when-trump-tells-the-truth/

    “During a Wednesday monologue on his Fox News Channel show, “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” Tucker Carlson detailed what “infuriates” liberals and Democrats the most about President Donald Trump.

    Carlson said Trump’s detractors will say they hate Trump because he lies, but he argued they get the most upset with him when he tells the truth.”

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  15. Some stupid woman came on the news just now and praised the ” incredible bravery of the London police men who confronted the islamic terrorist.
    It was not them, it was a few brave Londoners who confronted him and pinned him down, got the knife off him, waiting for the police to come.
    (and then shoot him dead)

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    • As so often the police only arrive after the incident to clear up the mess. It is not their fault it is just the nature of the thing, it is always the general public who are on hand when an incident occurs and they should be positively encouraged to take the law into their own hands where it rightfully belongs. Peel’s Principle #7 “the police are the public and the public are the police.”

      Our current crop of police don’t seem to have been taught Peel’s Principles at all during their basic training and need to be reminded very firmly that they are the absolute rock bottom basis of all successful policing:
      https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/nyregion/sir-robert-peels-nine-principles-of-policing.html

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    • A dead terrorist saves money on a trial that would have found him guilty. Saves on paying for him in a high security prison. The only thing they should have done before shooting the prick was to interrogate him for information on other crazy radicals he knew of. Then shoot him!

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    • There is also praise, and praise form police, to the passersby who tackled and disarmed the jihadi scum

      The timeline is not clear yet, but being London Bridge and London 2019 the police would have been there VERY quickly.
      From previous events, and the previous London Bridge attack is a good example – the police in the UK are there with deadly force and must be local and ready to roll in an instant.
      consider; https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/04/within-eight-minutes-attackers-were-dead-timeline-of-the-london-bridge-attack
      Within eight minutes suspects were dead: timeline of the {2017} London Bridge attack”

      The jihadi in that case also had a vest on, with cannisters visible.
      Policy will be shoot to kill, and shoot immediately.

      Why divide up either the public or the police for praise? Both did excellently here.
      And why do some deranged types jump to condemn the police?

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    • Diggy you cant be surprised that the news isn’t accurate, but does the credit for the bravery have to be binary? Outrageous that those members of the public didn’t get kudos, but that doesn’t mean the Police weren’t brave.

      And as for that gem from Kea – jeez mate, too much.

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  16. Sadiq Khan

    Typical cut and paste
    “We must stay resolute – Those who seek to attack us and divide us will never succeed”

    Well they just did (succeed), they just killed two Londoners.
    Last year they killed 8.

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  17. This man was sitting in a cafe when a group of terrorists launch a mass killing. He thwarted the attack and was cut and stabbed multiple times. He nearly died for his bravery.

    The pigs investigated him for extremism. And put the victim on a terrorist watch list. He was denied compensation.

    And you lot wonder why I don’t lick the boots of the pigs.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7199795/Lion-London-Bridge-faced-terrorists-anti-terror-list-far-right-yobs-contact-him.html

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    • He has had to attend de-radicalisation classes and police are monitoring him, the Sun reported.

      Mr Larner said: ‘They treat me like a terrorist but I’m not political at all.

      The 49-year-old required surgery after being slashed multiple times in the head and neck by Rachid Redouane and Yousseff Zaghba, who – along with third terrorist Khuram Butt – ended up killing eight and injuring 38 others.

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      • Here in NZ the pigs want to remove the right to self defense.

        They can’t get it through legislation so they are trying to do it through case law by relentlessly prosecuting anyone who uses self defense.

        While the gutless pig cunts shoot us with impunity under the exact same Crimes Act provisions.

        The filth in this country need to be stomped on hard.

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        • Kea I have had enough of your ranting about the police. Keep it up and you will find yourself unable to post. Not all police are what you say they are, so pull your head in.

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          • Great comment Ed, he is on a roll and seems unable to get off. Hates Cops Jews and anyone else that doesn’t agree with his thoughts.

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          • And not all Islamic extremists/ nazi members are either but you don’t jump to their defense.

            Get off your knees and face reality. They are not on your side.

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  18. Isn’t strange how Labour Parties (or their equivalents) all over the world are turning their backs on those who have traditionally supported them. In the UK Corbyn and co. are almost anti workers, in Australia ALP lost the last election because they forgot about the miners in Queensland etc, in the USA the Democrats forgot the rust belt workers and now the black vote is going against them .
    Now in NZ the Labour led Govt. is turning their back on the place where Labour was founded –the West Coast.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/117706505/west-coasters-say-land-made-worthless-overnight-by-new-environment-laws

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    • Another MSM Labour sycophant chanting for the PTPM:

      “Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern is so well liked that she sends ripples of excitement through groups of jaded civil servants when she meets them in Wellington. So imagine what she’ll be able to do to a crowd of card-carrying Jacindamaniacs (yes, some people actually self-identify as this).”

      “The big challenge for the prime minister will be asserting a more lasting influence on the party. Unions still have too much sway. While this is unlikely to be eroded any time soon, plenty in caucus believe that Ardern’s election in 2017, which bypassed unions and members because it was only weeks out from the election, is proof they’ve got a better handle on where the party is than the rank and file. They’re probably right.”

      – does the MSM even understand Labour policy and their political agenda?

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  19. To all those meadow munching greenies.
    You are quite welcome to chow down on snail testes and praying mantis giblets, pirouetting on upturned recyclable coffee cups and to continue on, in the pursuit of involuntary bowel movements.
    I’ll stick with facts….thank you very much.

    Scientists Counter Claims That ‘Meat Is Evil’

    A team of UK scholars have fired back at unscientific claims by PETA and other groups that veganism is a “greener” option that eating meat, insisting that meat has “massive social benefits.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/11/28/scientists-counter-claims-meat-evil/

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  20. I wonder when Pravda (TV1) will release their latest poll
    I have heard from two people that its being done.
    They usually release it on Sundays.
    Usually after a good photo op for Ardern.
    Maybe tomorrow, or is that a bit too soon?

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    • In the fascist EU they banned powerful vacuum cleaners. No more than 900 watts allowed.

      This is where boot licking self appointed authorities is leading us. NZ needs to get off its knees.

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      • I purchased an Electrosux vacuum cleaner about 6 years ago.
        Designed in Sweden and made in Hungary.
        It was 2200 watts.
        So, made and designed in the EU at a time when the max power allowed in EU was 1400 watts.
        So they make and sell them, just cant buy them.
        Hypocrites.

        It was good for 3 years and 3 months.
        It had a 3 year warranty
        Then died 3 months after that expired it expired.
        For over $300 it was a crap deal from Farmers who really sell overpriced crap now. No longer a customer.

        I replaced with a $59 one from the Warehouse and that has lasted 3 years to date and even bought a second one at that price to keep in the garage.

        Bugger EU made crap.
        Buy Asian made.

        Those under-powered ones are a waste of time. You spend longer vacuuming to get a lesser result.
        Use as much electricity for worse results. EU. Huh.
        The low powered ones don’t suck up many of the bugs.
        Bring back the plague, Europe!

        The most powerful vacuums are the ones between the ears of EU officials.

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    • I have saved the world from overconsumption of paper and ink by not having bought or read The Listener in years. The hot air in my life has reduced markedly.
      I’ve never thought of myself as an eco-warrior, but there you go.

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  21. A racist hate group held a rally on the Wellington waterfront today. Spewing fake history and anti white sentiment. Hate slogans were openly displayed on flags and shouted out through a PA system.

    The same pigs who stormed a music festival with guns because of a white guys tattoo, were no where to be seen.

    Dirty filthy gutless pigs

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    • I have more of a problem with those spewing “fake history and anti white sentiment” and holding hate slogans openly displaying flags and shouting out through a PA system. At least protesters should get the correct facts before making a fuss. Virtue signalling imbeciles.

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    • people like you & i would probably frame it for a giggle Rachael sounds like someones resignation letter to me

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  22. Rogue truckies to be targeted by $72m nationwide safety sting
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/117738443/rogue-truckies-to-be-targeted-by-72m-nationwide-safety-sting

    “Rogue truck drivers will be hauled off the roads to protect other motorists in a $72 million safety upgrade.

    From 2020, 12 weigh stations will form a national network of checkpoints using new technology targeting illegal trucks and their dishonest drivers.

    It comes as the Automobile Association points out that despite trucks making up a small fraction of road users, they are involved in a significantly higher number of fatal or serious crashes.”

    More revenue gathering tricks.
    It is not worth trucking firms to take the chance of overloading their weight limits. Fines for commercial trucks overloading are astronomically high. As for accidents, truckies are installing dashcam video to prove accidents are often caused by other drivers erratic and dangerous behaviour around trucks forcing truck drivers to take evasive action to avoid them.

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    • National for all their faults never tried screwing over the average Kiwi as hard and fast as these assholes do only a few more months to go folks this lot are out on their unemployable asses

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    • The poor truck driver is the most regulated working person in NZ. No one has to comply with so much shit from the government and also the employer!

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    • I say bullshit! All it is, is more revenue gathering on the poor truckie!
      They are easier to tap for more taxes than the average taxpayer!

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      • That’s it Sooty, easy pickings if a commercial truck is overweight. It is more than a fine to discourage breaking the law for safety reasons, it is downright highway robbery by the state because business pays. Well over $1k for a small discrepancy.

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        • ……” $1k for a small discrepancy.”…..

          And a very small discrepancy it would have to be. Below are the current fines for GVM overloading:

          Offence Penalty for sum of axle mass
          ($)
          If the total of the recorded or calculated mass on the axles, reduced by the appropriate amount specified in clause 5 of this schedule, exceeds the maximum permitted mass by—
          – not more than 1 000 kg $350
          – more than 1 000 kg but not more than 2 000 kg $600
          – more than 2 000 kg but not more than 3 000 kg 900
          – more than 3 000 kg but not more than 4 000 kg 1,250
          – more than 4 000 kg but not more than 5 000 kg 1,650
          – more than 5 000 kg but not more than 6 000 kg 2,100
          – more than 6 000 kg but not more than 7 000 kg 2,600
          – more than 7 000 kg but not more than 8 000 kg 3,250
          – more than 8 000 kg but not more than 9 000 kg 4,050
          – more than 9 000 kg but not more than 10 000 kg 5,000
          – more than 10 000 kg but not more than 11 000 kg 6,000
          – more than 11 000 kg but not more than 12 000 kg 7,150
          – more than 12 000 kg but not more than 13 000 kg 8,500
          – more than 13 000 kg $10,000

          http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/1999/0099/latest/DLM280187.html

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          • There are plenty of cowboy truckers out there. Most trucks have scales these days so have no need to be overweight. But they will try as a an extra tonne of freight pays the food bill for the trip.

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            • Maybe V2 but there’s nothing to be gained unless they’re owner operators. Additionally the NZTA have taken to trawling through weighbridge & delivery paperwork even if they only suspect non compliance.

              There was an instance of this in the Wairarapa a few years ago when JNL records were used to effectively put Fearon Logging out of business.

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          • But this is what truckies have to worry about. The NZTA (through the police road division) conduct on road random inspections of trucks throughout NZ. They are nitpickers extrordinaire & every minor infringement is logged with the intent of forcing the cartage firm off the road. Example:

            http://www.nztruckanddriver.co.nz/phone/semenoff-hits-back-at-transport-agency.html

            If those administering the ORS (operator rating system) decide to get you then you’re cut bread.

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            • But but but the men in the black boots and blue costumes would never do such a thing !!!

              Take that back or you will make the other posters on YSB cry 🤣

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              • It’s over thirty years since I was employed in the transport game Kea. I’ve still got all the licences but I’ll never drive a truck again.

                Mostly because it would take me three months to get myself up to speed with all the paperwork & regulatory bullshit. It’s relentless!

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                • My 89 year old dad has dreams of driving a truck again. We say you can drive it if you can climb up into it. No show!! 😉

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  23. Maori in Oz: Living the good life
    NICOLE PRYOR11:31, Jul 19 2013
    Maori are living a “good life” in Australia – one with better pay and a better chance of being highly educated.

    The lure of higher wages has led to a rapidly growing Maori population, known as “Mozzies”, across the Tasman, and it is likely to continue, says a University of Waikato study.

    Already, about 128,430 Maori live across the ditch, according to Australia’s 2011 census. A Statistics New Zealand estimate put the number of Maori in New Zealand at 682,200 in 2012.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8937746/Maori-in-Oz-Living-the-good-life?fbclid=IwAR3YtpIR-CxTFJd9MVpv-Gzv8XmcNGz9DHs5eUPSnqtmnMZNlOgjFqYMEd4

    Research from Victoria University shows more Maori now live in southern Queensland than Hamilton.

    The number of Maori living in Queensland was about the same as the number estimated to be living in Northland in 2011. It is also more than the estimated Maori population in 10 of New Zealand’s 16 regions.

    Among New Zealand-born Maori males in Australia, the labour force participation rate was 92.6 per cent, compared with the national figure of 89.8 per cent. For Australian-born Maori males the rates was 87.5 per cent.

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    • A good friend of my grandmother was a devout Christian & believed that when she died she would go to Heaven to be with God.

      She also thought that there were little people inside her radio

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    • While her lefty buddies constantly threaten Trump and carry out mass killings of white people. Ardern and her media minions are always threatening white male kiwis.

      She is surrounded 24/7 by armed thugs who will gun down anyone on her command.

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    • Speaking of death threats.
      Ross12 posted this yesterday. It is very good. The Presidential historian who has written his latest book on Trump and received death threats if he publishes the book. He has interviewed people close to Donald Trump as the official presidential historian. Hubby ordered the book, launched 26 Nov, after watching the interview.

      “Any one interested in current USA politics , this is a very good video to watch (about 1 hour long)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=21&v=FI-aLLG7zXw&feature=emb_title

      Doud Wead is described as a Presidential historian as he has interviewed and written books about 6 Presidents. The video is an interview with him about writing his latest, on Trump. Trump gave him full access to all in the White House including his family.”

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  24. Dude she is a lying sack of shit but i could probably muscle my way through a crowd and shake her hand if i wanted to lets keep a bit of realistic perspective here eh

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    • …And also wonder why they (the Teenagers) can never be as ‘eloquent’ as she is. Having ‘Minders’ helps, especially with the big words, and if English is NOT your first language…

      Puppets come ion many forms; one is currently trying to cross the North Atlantic.

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  25. London Bridge attacker A known wolf

    He was arrested in December 2010 and released on licence (parole) in December 2018, wearing an electronic tag. He had reportedly been invited to attend the Learning Together conference. ….
    …… Professor Stephen Toope, Vice-Chancellor of the University of Cambridge, said he was “devastated” that an event organised by its Institute of Criminology was targeted in the attack. ……
    ……. “I am devastated to learn that today’s hateful attack on London Bridge may have been targeted at staff, students and alumni attending an event organised by the University of Cambridge’s Institute of Criminology”. ….
    …. the attacker, who police have identified as Usman Khan, was invited to attend the conference and sat through a morning session. …..

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2019/nov/29/london-bridge-incident-police-city?CMP=share_btn_tw

    So close to the guinea pigs they study.
    Those electronic tags might have motivated the attack, with the ongoing radio signals. 🙁

    Just read the koran in chronological order, and consider where the effects where Mohammad reveals the “abrogation” verses.

    At least the police did listen … One of them [pedestrians] was shouting ‘shoot him in the f***ing head’. ….

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    • Careful that comment reflects poorly on the police and Ed demands we don’t question authorities. New comment policy, just released today.

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          • Yeah, there is making a point and then there is throwing your toys out of the cot and wailing. Say as you will, but I think you are doing your message more harm than good at the moment. And it is a message that shouldn’t be lost to infantile prattling.

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            • Like the never ending drone about Muslims? I dont see you complaining about that. Why?

              I have zero respect for boot licking authoritarians. As do all decent informed people.

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              • Well, I happen to think the message about auhoritarian, police states is a valuable one. It has been a threat for generatuons and Ardern has turned it into a reality for us. But I also think you are behaving like a child and that you are harming that message. Downtick away though, whittle away at the support you have.

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                • No you don’t and sorry to burst your bubble but I don’t crave support.

                  The reality is you support an authoritarian organization that actively lobbies successive governments to pass laws to:

                  1. Take our guns.
                  2. Ban free speech
                  3. Censor the internet
                  4. Increase surveillance
                  5. Remove rights
                  6. Give themselves more power and guns to kill us.
                  7. Ban liquor
                  8. By pass courts to allow them to be judge and executioner

                  I’ve known a lot of cops. All the good ones hate the police. In the big picture it’s a vile government department. A few good cops at the front line dosen’t change that.

                  Now how about answering my question regarding Muslims?

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                  • If you knew how to read, you would see I agree with you on the police.

                    But I also think you are behaving like an asshat, and that is harming the message that police are authoritarians, under government control and there to take our freedoms away.

                    YOU are fucking up that message, you fidgit. No more discussion though, because you are not rational today.

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              • Kea, Have you considered that holysheet who started a blog to fight the COL and police actions endangering our freedom of speech is unlikely to be a “boot licking authoritarian”. I doubt any of us on YSB could be put in that pigeon hole. 🤨

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                • I did not say he was. However Ed transfers blame to the government. The reality is THE POLICE have been pushing for these laws for years.

                  Not Ardern. Not the lefties. Not muslims. THE POLICE

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                  • Kea, I don’t disagree with what you say and think about some of the police. It’s the hierarchy we should be targeting here. Calling the force Porcine is NOT acceptable.

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    • Will the ummm nice people in black boots and peaked caps force the members of the public who apprehended the terrorist, to attend anti extremist courses and put them on a terrorist watch list like they did the lion of london ?

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  26. I’m trying an experiment today. About to light the coals for a combination of a curry and a beer can chicken. I’ve got a little dutch, cast iron pan that I’m going to fill with vegetables and a curry sauce and things using a potjiekos curry recipe, that will go into the bottom of the Weber. I’ll put its lid upside down, then stand the spiced chicken on the can ontop of that. Close the lid on the whole mixture and give it an hour or so. Wish me luck! I’ve had enough working for today, so about to open a beer and get started.

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      • It was okay. Tried to rush it, should have started it a couple of hours earlier. The principle worked, it tasted okay. Next time will be better.

        Of course, Mama Bear loved it. But she eats deep fried chicken head so not sure Ibfully trust her tastebuds.

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  27. This study must have been conducted after the release of this joke.

    What did the zero say to the 8?

    Nice belt.

    Slimmer women’s waist is associated with better erectile function in men independent of age

    Possible reasons for the waist effects were discussed, including women’s abdominal body fat decreasing their own desire through neurohormonal mechanisms and decreasing their partner’s desire through evolutionary-related decreased sexual attractiveness.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23264164

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  28. Yep here comes the election spend.

    The Government has signalled its intentions to take advantage of the all-time low cost of borrowing to bring forward a “significant” amount of spending on infrastructure projects.

    But there is little detail about the size and scale of the spending package – the Government promised to unveil more information at the Half Yearly Economic and Fiscal Update (HYEFU) next month.

    Speaking at Labour’s annual conference this afternoon, Finance Minister Grant Robertson said the Government has a “once in a generation” fiscal opportunity.

    Robertson said he had directed Treasury to help bring together a package of short- and medium-term infrastructure projects the Government can invest in.

    “We are still finalising the full list of specific projects, but they will be spread across the country and will support a number of different sectors.”
    So it will be targeted at thier electors and winstons as well.

    If the fuckers hadn’t made a disaster of the economy before Key came along and then again when Jacinda came along this stuff would have all been done.

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  29. Robertson also refused to provide much, if any, detail on the Government’s spending pipeline plans other than telling reporters to prepare for something “significant”.

    Finance Minister Grant Robertson is denying that the Government was pressured by the Reserve Bank into borrowing more money to spend up large on new infrastructure projects.

    The central bank and its Governor, Adrian Orr, have been calling for the Government to loosen its purse strings for much of this year.

    Labour never stop lieing do they.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12289800

    But we have made the decision that this is the priority to do this investment now.”

    Details, such as the size of the spending package, what the money would be spent on and how it would affect the Government’s debt track, would all be revealed at the Half Yearly Economic and Fiscal Update (HYEFC) on December 11.

    i.e. The election is coming next year. This won’t save them as it will be too late by the time it gets started.

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  30. @Viking
    Its not a disaster, that was their plan – to can all the big roads
    So I’d be willing to bet that they just building some hospital extensions and a few kohangareo

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  31. Auckland woman Claire Szabo has been elected the new president of the Labour Party after beating two other candidates in a contest at the party’s conference in Whanganui.

    She is the chief executive of Habitat for Humanity, a charity which builds houses for people on low incomes.

    She beat Tane Phillip, the party’s senior Māori vice-president, and Lorna Crane of the Westport branch.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12289804

    Jacinda’s eliminating poverty trick.

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          • The Russell Museum has a one-fifth scale model of the Endeavour built in 1969 which I’ve spent a bit of time looking at & trying to extend it out to actual size. At 30 metres in length & a crew of nearly 100 things must have been fairly cuddly below decks.

            The seamanship required to sail such a ship into uncharted waters challenges comprehension.

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            • As an aside Russell (or Kororareka) was one of the first European settlements in NZ. It had a reputation as a hellhole with drunkenness & prostitution being its major claim to fame.

              It’s now a tourist trap, full of overpriced souvenir shops, accommodation & eateries dedicated to separating the tourist from as much of his/her money as possible. Some of the buildings are labelled with descriptions of their history.

              Except one with a small plaque advising the reader that in 1822 nothing happened on the site. 🙂

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    • Robbo just had an anoucement to anouce an anoucement!
      He’ll pluck the figures out of his arse at the next budget!

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    • Yes our council is going to spending $27 million dollars on cycle lanes over the next 3 years!
      Not if I can help it

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    • The entire green industry it drives, would be worth trillions i suspect.

      The great thing about green industries is they don’t need to work to make a profit. Useless expensive windmills are a great example. They make small amounts of insanely expensive electricity and are not even green when you factor in their manufacturing.

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      • I think we should look into battery powered sheep.
        We could call them E ewes.
        There are definitely negatives and positives to this idea.

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  32. I had a great day at Simon’s garden party. I found out that the Labour Youth Camp predator is almost definately not Megan Woods’ son. I was told the rumours are wrong from a reliable source.

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      • No sorry. The way the law works is that if there is a suppression order one can say it is not me or someone can say that is not such a person. They just cannot say who it is. The person who told me know the rumour and said he was sure it was not Woods son. I am very confident of this person who was not Simon. I will not say who told me.

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          • On KB the Mods made a statement “it’s not who you think’, when folk were doing the play on words thing that has been going on.
            I translate this, along with what Chuck says above as Guess Again.
            I don’t suppose we will ever know, but just what a shameful story it has been for the Labour party is my takeaway. Protect, close down story, sideline or ignore victims from within the same party. Some people are more equal than others within Labour. And the party is what matters, not morality.

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  33. Call for regulation on NZ’s pork industry in the wake of global spread of African swine fever

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/call-regulation-nz-s-pork-industry-in-wake-global-spread-african-swine-fever?auto=6110682808001

    “Time and time and time again our biosecurity has been breached and we’ve had some very expensive breaches and I just think there’s got to be a line in the sand and we say ‘enough is enough’ and we do some practical things to protect ourselves,” says Josh Hill of Poaka New Zealand.

    He’s worried about African swine fever, the virus predicted to wipe out a quarter of the global pig population.

    It has spread from Africa to Asia and Europe, recently found as close as Timor Leste, just north of Australia.

    Last month, World Animal Health officials warned that no country is immune.”

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  34. Umm, I watched that and he was calling for better biosecurity and testing of imported pork. 50% of pork consumed here is imported. Including of course your Xmas ham.

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    • I never each imported pork or bacon. The imported bacon is pumped full of saline, and shrinks when you fry it, releasing out the fluid as muck which affects crisping. No idea what sort of antibiotics or steroids they pump in while the animal is live.
      Hellers is NZ sourced, and there are other smaller operators (Pirongia or Pokeno bacon, etc.)

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    • The Stuff poll mid article is disgraceful and dangerous.
      Loaded with Arderninistic mumbo jumbo.
      The news providers of today have got be the weakest ignoramuses in history.

      How about doing a poll like this: (Random questions in no particular order)

      1/ In the event of a terrorist attack what course of action would you implement to save yourself, family, friends, and loved ones from harm?

      2/ Knowing that an an attack is inevitable, what precautions can be taken, to isolate, minimize or eliminate potential harm?

      3/ What are the tell tale signs that an attack is being planned / possible, and who should you notify your concerns to?

      4/ When in immediate danger, what can you do to gain control of the situation?.

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