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  1. Balance – time to start punishing irrational Islamophilia too

    Too much of anything is well known to be unhealthy. Which is very much what we see from the political and media classes where Islam is concerned.

    It beggars belief that we have a never-ending litany of visceral proofs about the dangers of unfettered migration of muslims to western countries, yet the authorities are increasingly siccing the thought police onto anyone that says “Hey! Wait a minute, this isn’t such a good idea after all”

    The latest from London shows that the UK Police are now completely clearly working against the safety of the citizenry as:
    a) the terrorist had previously been arrested for terrorism activities and released because “Diversity” (Diversity: it’s the new stupid), and
    b) he had to be subdued by incredibly heroic members of the public

    Watching the above clip, how long before the infinitely stupid Cindy outlaws assault narwhal tusks and assault fire extinguishers to prevent white supremacists (like those in the video above) from keeping the streets safe?

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      • Sadly, as law-abiding citizens you are right. There is nothing we can do.

        At some point, the pendulum will swing back and there’ll be a Royal Commission that will report that it was a terribly stupid idea and a stupid, mule-faced PM will make an apology over the smoking ruins of our once perfect South Pacific paradise.

        It’s why I feel so sorry for the next generation and the one after them, we’ve all had the best of it and we’re going to hand over a far worse society to them. Still, we’ll all be speaking Chinese and wearing Mao suits inside of 30 years – and those bastards have a way to deal with muslims – they put them in cages and farm them for their organs.

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      • Do you know which religious group has promoted mass immigration into Europe and tried to control the language with made-up words?

        They also run centers helping illegal invaders.

        Hint: it’s not Muslims, Christians or Hindus.

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    • UK Police are working against safety of the citizenry – how so?
      The terrorist was arrested, tried and imprisoned for earlier crimes.
      His sentencing, imprisonment and release has nothing to do with Police.
      Police can’t be everywhere so it is always the case that members of the public are on hand first – that’s how it works, the public call Police for assistance.

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      • Well to start off with, how about watching people on their watch list? That would be a start? I mean, if you were a 1/20th competent counter-terrorism officer, then you’d start with oh… I don’t know people previously convicted of terrorism and recently released who are still associating with a known terrorist organisation to bloody well watch!

        On the other hand, maybe they were just so overwhelmed with policing thought crimes and Islamophilia to do their bloody jobs!

        Come on Harvey, I’m sure you like to think of yourself as a glass half full kind of person, but half a second’s thinking would’ve answered your own question. When the Police:
        a) don’t do the obvious preventative stuff, and
        b) carry out witch hunts against those who are worried about the lack of prevention of an obvious safety issue
        … then it’s a reasonable thing to suggest that the cops are working against the safety of the citizenry.

        I mean who is their bloody boss in London, that’s right a guy who made a living defending terrorists and suggesting that terrorism is a completely normal part of life in a big city!

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        • I also get angry at what islam costs us all.
          The security at airports
          The security surveillance
          Now the continuing loss of our free speech
          Both of which would not be needed if muslims stayed in their own countries.

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        • You’re blaming Police for matters they have no or little control over.
          The ‘bloody boss’ of London Police is Cressida Dick.
          The “guy who made a living defending terrorists and suggested terrorism is part of living in a city” is Sadiq Khan. How do you propose Police should have altered the outcome of that 2016 election?
          And iirc the second part of your claim is inaccurate. Khan’s statement referred to knife crime, not terrorism.
          How are you proposing that Police ‘watch’ everyone on their watch list?
          Round the clock surveillance? Eight officers to everyone on the list? Are they resourced for that? – or are the rest of the community allowed to run amok?

          I share your frustration with terrorism, and immigration, and public safety.
          Nothing to do with glass half anything, this is a major problem to be addressed by clear thinking in favour of knee-jerk blame-gaming or a re-run of the irrational shit stirring toward “The Police” we had on here yesterday.

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          • 1. So just following orders eh? The world didn’t accept that excuse from the Nazi’s – I don’t see why that’s good enough from the Met
            2. Cressida Dick reports to (from WIkipedia) the Queen, the Home Office and the Mayor London (we all know the Queen is titular only, the Home Office will have very little to do with it, the Mayor is her boss)
            3. Weird leap of logic to assume I meant the Police should alter the election result. But doing the right thing is the important thing here and what I’m really talking about. Islamophilia is obviously wrong, policing thought-crime is obviously wrong, going soft on muslim terrorists is obviously wrong.
            4. Watch list. I agree they can’t watch everyone. But a guy who has already demonstrated murderous intent, they’d know he wasn’t reformed by prison, they should know he’s still interacting closely with known terrorist cells. He’d be in your top 1% to watch. Leave frigging Tommy Robinson alone and do the job – that’s what I think they should do. What on earth is counter-terrorism for if it’s not to counter known terrorists who are associating with radical clerics?

            I know what you are saying, but sometimes you have to call things from a common sense point of view. Maybe Epstein was a suicide – despite evidence to the contrary. Maybe Clinton had no idea what was going at Pedo Island when he flew there 26 times. Yes each and everyone of the circumstances that make us all suspicious “could” be innocent – but all of them? Nah!

            BTW wonder why they shot the guy 15 times? Making absolutely sure he couldn’t say anything embarrassing about the cops? Normally shooting a guy once in the head is enough to do the job – 15 sounds like belts and braces?

            A famous UK TV journalist once said that the only question you have to keep in mind when interviewing politicians is “What is this lying bastard lying to us about now?”

            I wish we lived in a world where your approach was credible Harvey. I just think we’ve had decades of examples that have taught us that it’s not credible and that the institutions of government the world over have lost their integrity and that we, the people, must start off with a default position of mistrust and an understanding that very little is as it appears on the face of it.

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      • I am in partial agreement with Harvey. The police cannot keep track of every single person in a country; not without some form of tracking system mandated for every citizen. The problem isn’t with his catch, punishment and release. The police did what they were meant to do. The problem is higher and lower up.

        Why do the police have to deal with so many Islamic terrorists? Where are they coming from and how are they getting into the country in the first place?

        That is what they need to look at first and foremost.

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    • More of them, one not too far away.

      Justice Harrison questioned how he was to determine whether or not Pender was “influenced by a disordered mind” at the time of the offence.

      “People that tell police in the streets of Surry Hills that they’re going to cut their heads off aren’t people we come across on a regular basis,” the judge said.

      “That strikes me as very strange behaviour.”
      https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/im-going-to-cut-heads-off-man-threatened-police-magistrate-in-sydney/news-story/ff61b05e23281a98f074a263a9d744f0

      https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/man-who-threatened-to-behead-police-intends-to-convert-to-judaism-court-told-20191128-p53f0e.html
      Should be under lock & key and plan for it to be for the rest of his life.

      These de radicalization programs,
      Do they really work?, selling the idea, that if they just saved one person, (saved all mankind? 🙁 )then it has more than paid for itself?
      Or is it another reason for a trough fill up” 🙁
      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-28/helpline-set-up-to-combat-radicalisation-five-calls-two-months/8988432

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      • This Melbourne judge does not have a clue about Mohammad, as per koran, hadith, and sira.
        Read the “Reliance of the Traveler”, English translated in 1991, and approved by Egyptian, Al-Azhar University in Cairo.

        Then the judge will understand just what is truly warped!

        Their views became so warped they had come to believe the mass slaughter of innocent civilians would be a ‘glorious act, pleasing to Allah’, he said.
        29 November 2019
        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7737171/Terrorists-planned-blow-Melbournes-Federation-Square-jailed.html

        And our western systems cavort and mask the muslims, in more than just hijabs and burkas, by allowing the islamic ideology.
        German prisoner of war were not given “mein kampf” to study and read.
        Read these things, know your self, know your enemy.

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      • De-radicalization programs only treat symptoms in pious devout muslims.
        Islam is the disease!
        Persistently treating the symptoms, does not stop the disease!
        It only continues on to kill you!

        Discussion, debate, criticism on islam as put in the koran, hadiths & sira is not allowed in the islamic world.
        In islamic terms it is blasphemous.

        Any critique of islam in the Western world it is now called “islamophobia” and put into the same class as racism, that now can use all the democratic systems to double down on any dissent.

        Sadly Free speech, has also been maneuvered and forced into that class, accepted by the academia, judiciary, educationalists, media and politicians, and where ever social justice warriors & engineers seek control.

        All to embed and empower islam in the name of diversity, with soft soap and soft sell to start off with. ….
        Until it bites the hand that feeds it, cutting a foot off here, a hand off there, striking at the neck, and to sever a head when it can.

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    • Use of the extinguisher and narwhal tusk- Brilliant!

      Interestingly, for self defence in UK law I am told that ‘improvised weapons’ are a good option if you must carry or have something near at hand. Legally it is not a weapon in itself/not a primary function.
      Every home needs a narwhal tusk.

      In NZ, I hear that large PVC pipes were being purchased by folk, ahead of burying their now-prohibited firearms.
      From being part of the firearms community I expect there are a lot of safe & law abiding people who now have reason to fear the police (For instance, there were a lot of SKS rifles sold very very cheaply for years before the mosque shooting,).
      This is what Tarrant wanted by choosing to use legally obtained firearms. Rights being taken away, and political division. He laid it all out very clearly in his manifesto in a Q&A format. The manifesto which we are no longer allowed to read, and so need to trust politicians and academics to tell us what it is, and why he did what he did.

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  2. The “gun buy back” amnesty etc ends of December 20th.
    That’s not very far away.

    I’m not a gun owner, but I hope they don’t hand in any more guns!
    I hope those protests have an effect on Nash and Ardern.

    But they risk being charged etc.

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    • DN15 I’m not a gun owner either, but I imagine that what has happened is that sensible gun owners have cashed up all the old stuff they were bored of (or was unreliable) and have gone out and spent their cash-up and a whole lot more on more modern weapons that are 1/16th of an inch inside the new regulations and so the net effect is the honest, law-abiding, gun-owning citizens (who never were, and never will be a danger) are now better armed than the were beforehand. And it was all paid for by the taxpayer courtesy of stupid Cindy!

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      • Both that ,and the guys who have gotten like many of us too old to go hunting anymore so cashed up and put the money from the taxpayer to a holiday or some other such nice thing to do.
        Unfortunately, I gave mine away a few years ago otherwise I would have got a lot more than I paid for it. (20.00 Pound’s)

        Guns will still get stolen, guns will still get bought into the country illegally and those that want will still hide them away.

        Like many things Labour (or rather Cindy), fucked up a system that allowed a mad bad bastard to do what he did.
        I haven’t noticed that same person being contrite and accepting that she made bad decisions and thus is responsible for facilitating the shootout.
        The police of course are just as culpable for they used their influence to have the rules changed.
        We could perhaps call the lady’s decision to change the rules that the police worked under, naivety on her part. Except that she is continuing down the same road under their influence.

        Of course the current meme is that they are not perfect and they are learning..

        Long way to go yet.

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  3. You have to feel for people that lose family from car accidents this close to Christmas so this is not a slur on these deaths,but what sort of plan are Julie Anne Genter and Phil Twyford going to come up with this time after three deaths from three different accidents claimed three lives last evening.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12289839
    I am sick of hearing the excuse from this Government that promised zero road tolls at the last Election but now seem likely to set a far larger than 2018.

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    • They told us banning mobile phones when driving would save lives. Road toll went up.

      Same with lowering the booze limit. It went up. Same with the crack down on speed. It went up.

      Every one of those laws was promoted with mass media campaigns to get the sheeple demanding govt “do something” Remember the fake news campaign on driving and texting. Every day they ran stories on car accidents and “mentioned” mobile phone use. Even if it played no part in the events. They know stupid people can be influenced by word association.

      Intelligent informed people said none of it will work. They were right.

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      • I have often said that the driving test should include something like reversing into a parking space while talking on a mobile phone. I’m serious here…. if you can’t drive safely while using a handset, then you have no business being on the road.

        The big problem is that because talking on the phone is illegal, people are often texting instead and keeping their phones down below the windscreen level out of sight – and that really is dangerous, because it requires taking your eyes OFF THE ROAD!

        Talk about the law of unintended consequences: banning handheld mobile phone use has probably actually INCREASED the accident rate. Duhh…. idiot bureaucracy.

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      • They also measure these things as absolute numbers. As our population increases, so will the road toll. You need to measure it as deaths / 100,000 or something like that to get a meaningful comparison. But of course, meaningful numbers won’t always suit the agendas being pushed.

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  5. The heir vs the spare: ‘Bitter’ royal rift dividing the palace
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12289828

    “Considered, sensitive and intellectual, Charles is famed for his interest in architecture and opera. Andrew, by contrast, is renowned for his arrogance and boorishness. (A British diplomat has previously revealed that the Duke was “more commonly known among the British diplomatic community in the Gulf as HBH: His Buffoon Highness”.)

    All of which means that when Andrew and Charles meet face-to-face for the first time since the dramatic and humiliating events of the last two weeks unfolded, there will be fireworks.”

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      • Uk is the country of his birth, so deportation was not an option.
        He was also not a candidate for parole as Brown’s Labour government changed the law in 2008 so that criminals sentenced to a finite sentence are released when they’ve served half.
        Johnson has been wanting law changes but parliament is too busy trying to stall Brexit. (You don’t suppose that immigration was behind the public support for Brexit, do you?)
        There are also a bunch of muppets running MI5 that are too busy creating disability-friendly workplaces and a culturally diverse workforce to be equal to the Herculean task they face thanks to rampant unchecked immigration caused by Merkel’s open border policy.
        The bureaucratic swamp in The Home Office has blood on their hands as they have oversight of MI5 and Police. Both of those critical operations have sacrificed effectiveness at the altar of diversity.

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  8. So Grant Robertson had an anouncement at the conferance to make all the supporters get the warm fuzzys.
    They are going to spend a lot of money on shit he says!
    Just doesn’t know what yet. But it’s going to be big!
    He’s going to make another anoucement for the anouncement for the anoucement, which will be in the budget, I’m picking.
    Just as soon as he finishes picking the figures out of his arse!
    Yippe do di day, ain’t he just marvelous!

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  9. Dozens protest gun buyback events
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/12/dozens-protest-gun-buyback-events.html

    “Gun owners around the country have held protests outside four police buyback events.

    Fifty people holding placards stood opposite Christchurch collection events on Saturday, resisting the Government’s firearms law reforms, saying licensed gun owners are being unfairly penalised.

    “The Government made a mistake and gave a terrorist a gun, it’s not our fault,” one protester told Reuters.”

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    • When the School Board of Trustees system was implemented, the new trustees of the Hiruharama School near Ruatoria decided that their tamariki would be better off having their lunches beneath the shade of Totara and such like, rather than the oaks and elms that had given shelter for the past 100 years. The exotics were duly cut down.
      Not figured into the BOT’s decision making was that the native trees were 50 years away from providing the same shade and considerable money had to be spent on shade cloth structures.

      Ideology trumps common sense every time in this new woke world we are in.

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    • Rachel…I tried to watch the video in your link but could’t make it to the end with the amount of drivel being spouted by the three persons involved.
      The Newshub article states, “They’re being felled to make way for natives that’ll provide a habitat for native birds.”
      What have these birds been doing up until now? (I’ll tell you from experience, they have been thriving on flowering gums, bottle brush and the like.) What will existing birds be feeding from and nesting in until the new trees get up to size and produce flower and fruit, many years from now. More ideology over common sense.

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  11. Murderer among the those who tackled London Bridge attacker, before he was shot dead by police

    A man who fatally stabbed two people in attacks near London Bridge before being shot dead by police yesterday was tackled by former convicts – including a murderer – attending a conference on rehabilitation.
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/murderer-among-those-tackled-london-bridge-attacker-before-he-shot-dead-police?auto=6110561798001

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  13. “More than 40,000 weapons have been handed in so far, with the Government paying out $75 million.”

    I knew when I saw the amount the government was allowing for the “buy back” that they were budgeting for low compliance. Well 40 thousand out of an estimated 200,000 is 20% which is a bit lower than even I was expecting. Almost everyone I know who has handed in guns have replaced them with new ones in my case I handed in two and bought three.

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  15. First victim identified in London Bridge terror attack
    https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6110808380001

    Cambridge University graduate Jack Merritt, 25, has been named as the first victim of the London bridge terror attack which took place on Friday afternoon, London time.

    Khan was the member of a well known terrorist group based in the UK that planned to bomb the London stock exchange and were planning on building a terrorist training camp in Pakistan.

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  16. Imagine that you were living in a tax slave farm,

    And that you were surrounded by slaves who were
    suffering from Stockholm syndrome so badly,that they
    periodically fought over which slave master would rule them.

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    • You’d hopefully be smart and vote ACT, so you can stop being a slave to the likes of Labour and National. Their policy sets a 17.5% tax rate for individuals and companies. Worth a read of their full policy.

      Meanwhile, the tax system sends a bad message to all New Zealanders about effort and reward. If you upskill yourself, work, save, and invest to increase your income, the government will take more of it off you. On the other hand, if you drag your feet, you’ll pay much less tax and even be given money for free. This social engineering has been very damaging.

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      • Pascal.
        I would definitely vote for a party that reduces the size of government.
        Other countries on average have about one representative per 100.000 people.
        That would mean NZ would have around 50 M.P.s.
        The reduction in costs with staffing levels, peripheral faceless entities and gluttonous puerile’s would keep a small country running quite nicely.

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          • You’re getting me mildly excited about ACT Pascal, but the way my last votes ‘made a difference’, tends to make me very weary and I feel we’ll be duped again by a bad tempered fool out to seek revenge.
            Winston is still going to fight tooth and nail to remain a political heavyweight and be a thorn in Nationals side.
            There is nothing to say he won’t do the same to ACT.

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            • ACT policy resonates well with me. I realise they do terribly in the polls (and in the elections), but their policies are what I want for New Zealand. I’ll keep on throwing my vote at them until the rest of the country wakes up and takes a bit more responsibility and a little less government.

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              • Act have come of age and their election in 2020 will reflex a lot of new support. People are finally fed up and appalled with the treatment of us by the other parties. Voters are now willing to gamble that Act will be a major player from next year. Vote Act.

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  17. Good news for fellow Climate Change deniers

    https://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.aspx?id=1822273&p=1&topic=7

    This is a Trademe forum which asks what people are doing to reduce their carbon footprint.

    Most of them said nothing, they either don’t believe it, or they don’t think they can make a difference, or they think the Greens etc should stop jetting around the world!

    So I think they are losing the battle of reducing C02 etc and the peoples minds

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  18. by Roger Witherspoon | 30th Nov 19, 3:26pm
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    Teehee. You couldn’t make it up. Dopey government brings in 500,000 extra people into a country that has great difficulty in building enough houses to replace the existing chicken shacks that were built to leak because previous dopey government buggered up the building code. Present dopey government unable to actually build houses as dopey governments over the last 30 years have engineered ludicrous planning system and financial system that ensures that it is well nigh impossible to build a new house that anyone earning less than the top 10 percentile can afford.

    Perhaps we should be taking power from these plonkers, or is that just too radical in a lefty country? The Swiss do it by having a referendum on just about everything.
    https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/102808/crown-company-borrows-money-infrastructure-crown-entity-rate-537-sake-keeping-debt

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    • Not only that DN. Have a read of Delingpole’s latest

      https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2019/12/james-delingpole-greta-teenage-climate.html#more

      “Germany’s electricity prices have rocketed to their highest ever:

      More than 340,000 German households had their electricity turned off last year because they couldn’t pay their electricity bills. A mother is sitting with her son in her darkened apartment in Hanover (Source: DPA)

      While wholesale electricity prices in Germany have increased by about 13 percent in 2019, taxes and levies on electricity have reached their highest level ever and will cost German families and consumers a staggering 44 billion euros in 2020. “

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      • From your article:

        Astonishingly, over the past 18 months China has added enough new coal-based electricity generation (43GW) to power 31 million homes. King coal has returned. Not only that, China is also financing 25% of all new proposed coal plants outside of its own borders, e.g., South Africa, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. They’ve gone coal gaga.

        In less than two years, China is once again immersed in a vast “coal boom,” similar to its “one new coal plant per week” 2006-2015 commitment, resulting in air pollution so thick it could be cut with a knife, now replenished as new coal power plant construction is planning an additional 148GW, a number that equals the current total coal generating capacity of the EU.

        But wait, New Zealand contributes 0.1% of emissions. We must shut our country down to save the planet!

        Naff fucking Greens. Go protest in China and see if you can stop the real harm by your measures.

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        • Not only China and South Africa
          But Vietnam has lots of coal fired power stations and is building lots more.
          So has Turkey
          These are all big countries with lots of people.

          Not only do we need to pull out of Eurovision, we need to pullout of the Paris accord.
          This is actually New Conservatives policy.

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          • South East Asia needs them DN. Just look at all the new residential housing that is being built (either low level or tower blocks). Then look at what is on the outside of them –at least two air conditioning units for each. That takes a lot of electricity to keep them running.
            Add to that the massive amount of commercial building going on in all the major cities.
            They are effectively giving the middle finger to all those idiots going to Madrid this month.

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  22. Every Saturday / Sunday we can take our car in to the dealership we bought it from and they’ll wash it and clean it, free of charge for as long as you own the car. It’s a very nice service, so we take the opportunity while waiting to go find a lovely cafe, have a bit of a brunch and a yarn about the week that was and then drive home in a nicely cleaned vehicle.

    There were two interesting things in our discussion today. Mama Bear listened to the changes Stuff says we have to make (Link from earlier post) and her first question was: “What is China doing? They do more harm in one day than we do in a year!”. And she’s right, we can cut our noses to spite our faces all we like, but as long as China and Russia and India and most of damn Africa are trying to reach Western lifestyle values, we’re not even a drop in the bucket.

    The second was interesting. We had brunch at Longroom in Ponsonby. Typical Ponsnobby eatery; dukha crusted eggs, poke bowls, etc. Their layout has a central courtyard, seating around and leading into the restaurant proper. The central courtyard has glass panes covering part of it; but strangely that is a smoking spot and the seating just around it is non-smoking. A guy was smoking in the central area with other customers walking away or out to get away from it. None of the other customers could say a thing – they had to sit through the smoke with their meals while he finished his takeaway coffee and his two cigarettes, because he was within his rights under the law. The legislation is absolutely bizarre. Even though the courtyard has 4 walls and is partially covered, because the roof is only partially covered it’s considered an outdoor space.

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  23. Hungary pulls out of Eurovision reportedly because it is ‘too gay’
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2019/12/hungary-pulls-out-of-eurovision-reportedly-because-it-is-too-gay.html

    “I welcome the decision, including from a mental health perspective, that Hungary will not take part in the homosexual flotilla that this international song competition has been reduced to,” said Andras Bencsik, the editor of a Hungarian pro-government magazine.”

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  24. Cats in Europe might have to be kept on leashes, if two environmental lawyers get their way.

    Pro-bird lawyers want cats kept on leashes
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2019/12/pro-bird-lawyers-want-cats-kept-on-leashes.html

    “Lawyers in the Netherlands earlier this week hinted at legal action against the Dutch government, saying it’s doing nothing to protect birds.

    – that angry face is what cats think of such a stupid idea.

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  28. Graphs and charts to show you how fortunate you are.

    Which Countries Offer The Longest Retirements

    And one bonus chart: yes, places such as Greece may have one of the most generous retirement regimes, but working all those long years to finally hit retirement in the thrice insolvent European nation is hardly a walk in the park: as the next chart shows, there is a great dispersion between those countries that have the most stressful working environment such as Greece, Turkey, Hungary and Spain, and those where work is a joy such as Scandinavia, New Zealand and the UK (although we somehow doubt the latter will remain on this list for long).

    https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/which-countries-offer-longest-retirements

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      • Let me guess what will happen. $200 million will be spent on reports, consultations, huis, meetings, dialogue, debates, discussions, talks, seminars, symposiums, conferences & assorted koha attracting yapfests.

        Then years later two, possibly three, architecturally designed classrooms will be built in some Labour stronghold where they will be burnt down within a week by the natives who consider education to be a symbol of white colonisation.

        Half a billion down the shitter & the kids who really want to learn will be taught in tents.

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  30. Well people should be wary of this Government and there borrowing as they are committing political fraud and hiding what they are actually borrowing for infrastructure and housing as Phil Twyford has found a way to borrow without the voter knowing.
    https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/102808/crown-company-borrows-money-infrastructure-crown-entity-rate-537-sake-keeping-debt
    This borrowing is misleading and should be transparent so why has Jacinda and Grant allowed this to happen when they promised to be the most open and transparent Government ever.

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  31. Already Ardern has practiced the “nuclear free moment”
    Climate Emergency by Extinction Rebellion.
    Some more names to activate the sheeple. 🙁 as they give their marketing blurb.
    Greta has done the “How dare you” & the winds and waves are not calmed, except for when she gets in the doldrums.

    Is there a better way to convey the urgency of the situation, while also encouraging folks to take action? Could the tools of branding and brand naming create a more resonant, powerful name?
    Global Meltdown, …… Global Melting, …… Climate Collapse, …. Climate Chaos, ….. Boiling Point, …. Melting Point, ….. Scorched Earth, ….. Emission Critical, ….. Planet Critical, …… Pre-Extinction, ….. The Great Collapse, ….. Earthshattering …………
    https://adage.com/article/industry-insights/renaming-climate-change-can-new-name-finally-make-us-take-action/2218821

    David Mann’s hockey graph court case pointing to a lack of evidence
    East Anglia University, Climate Gate, needs a lot more explaining.
    The masks that the sly scientists try to also keep hidden.

    Though the more “woke”, they try to practice, while it may suck a few more in, may also make others see the facts, the truth and make a decision to harden up 🙂

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  34. Property Righs stolen by the govt.

    West Coasters say land made ‘worthless overnight’ by new environment laws
    Joanne Carroll11:05, Nov 30 2019

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/117706505/west-coasters-say-land-made-worthless-overnight-by-new-environment-laws

    When West Coast farmer Gordon Graham’s property was classified as a significant natural area (SNA) he began a court battle with the Grey District Council that left him bankrupt.

    Gordon bought the farming and timber block at Candlelight, near Stillwater on the West Coast about 35 years ago. He runs dry stock on most of it, but bought a mill and gained a permit to harvest 500 cubic metres of beech from a 43ha native forest on the land in 2000. However, his plans were scuppered when the Grey District Council earmarked the forest as an SNA.

    Landowners the length of the West Coast fear they will also have their plans curtailed after this weeks’s Government announcement that councils must identify and protect areas where there is significant vegetation and indigenous fauna and wetlands by 2026. It is out for public consultation until March.

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    • It is happening also in some North Island Districts also.
      It is a zone change, that the District Council claims that they have to do, as the Regional Council commands.
      The Regional Council then says it must all comply as it is a governmental directive.

      It is claimed that it does not change any thing.
      But note the rules and regulations, the sizes, and then needing permits. All at a cost.
      Then note the penalties if you get it wrong.
      Then also that all these things can change with a stroke of their pen, and again one can be wronged and penalized.
      Always saying that it changes nothing…
      Such a damm lie, as it then sets up for the next part of control and cost.

      Just who will be running these sub committees, what agendas, consulting with whom, making the decisions and further changes.?
      That is all up in the air, as in some areas there are further Waitangi Treaty Settlements being worked out by the Office of Treaty Settlements.

      Some dead lines have happened early this November on some SNA.

      It was the government who gave “freehold title” and they were the ones who sold the land, with all that was on it!
      Now they want further control, though at the same time saying nothing will change for the land owner, who had often paid rates for years on that property.
      Most likely in the past, no relief allowed as it was not significant.
      They deviously say they will not change things, but nor will they pay compensation!

      Surely those councils should double, nay triple, quadruple or more the rates, to every one else and pay compensation, if they believe it was significant! 🙂
      Of course with such things hanging over ones head the value has collapsed.

      So many of these black-mailing extortionists, tick boxers, that hide in some creative job worth, enlarging, that den of thieves, need to be called out on their actions.
      To many other groups that one would think be opposed, but follow “sustainability” etc… seem to roll over, to the extortionate might of the den of thieves.
      The problem is in call in out the thieves, and upsetting the apple cart, can be very costly, in lawyers, advisers, time. stressful, while trying to work, plus doxxing activists can be at you, through bureaucracy,

      I am the man from the government and I am here to help you! is their refrain.

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      • The Hutt City Council tried this a couple of years ago. They had ‘analysts’ pour over aerial photos for the Hutt area to identify blocks of native vegetation that should be considered for protection. My property (just a suburban section on the Western Hills) got caught, with a big chunk of the lower slope of the section within this ‘magic’ line. Had to point out that (1) the council’s own historic photos showed that in 1970 all this part of the Western Hills was farm land covered in grass and scrub,. (2)the gully that flowed through area was nothing more than a drain and did not have any native, or endangered, wildlife in it. (3) all the native trees on my property were either planted by me or were regrowth that had occurred since the subdivision was fenced off.
        I was not alone in pushing back – the residents of Eastbourne protested vociferously and threatened to take the council to court. End result was that the Council cancelled the whole scheme – but conservation groups are now protesting that the council has not done what the l;aw requires of it, ie; identifying significant natural areas!

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      • And remember I was one of the few people in NZ that backed Trump when he was standing for the Republican candidacy.
        At work I was rubbished by everyone, but I said then that he would be the Republican candidate and be the President!

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    • @Ross12 – yep! I rate him as one of the greatest Presidents *ever*.

      No other President has had to cope with such a tsunami of unending opposition from brainwashed lefties AND the media.

      In spite of that, he’s reduced taxes, got the economy rocketing along and jobless rates are at 50-year lows!

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      • Yes the way the media and the “celebrities” got stuck into him the day after the election was disgraceful

        And the left wing world news media has carried this on to this day, opening every bulletin as if Trump should not be there.

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      • The video I linked yesterday of the interview with Doug Wead had a really interesting point in it about how Trump is accomplishing things. I think it was attributed to the Foreign Minister of Mexico –he said all the Russia/ Mueller stuff was a gift in a way because it has diverted the toxic media away from what Trump is really doing. So he has been able to reduce regulations etc. without being questioned on it publicly. He said if the media were not not so preoccupied, he would have had must harder time making progress.

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  38. What is justice reform? Its really going soft on crime

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/john-armstrongs-opinion-nationals-dispiriting-discussion-document-misses-chance-push-justice-reform

    I want the govt to be tougher on crime, more support for victims and longer sentences and cumulative sentences, no parole, no mitigating circumstances (excuses) its not punitive its what is fair.
    But I do want the government to educate our children better so that they do not get into crime.

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    • But do tougher sentences work to prevent the most serious offending?

      I am a pragmatist and believe we need to look at other more effective options. If that means crim hugging I’m okay with it. Just as long as it works.

      Btw… National screwed over victims big time by restructuring the specialist unit that collected reperations. To save a buck.

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      • Drop a couple of Valium & have a look see at DPF’s latest post on 1080 bullshitters, especially Pharmachick’s 6.09pm comment, Kea. Your anti 1080 mates have completely jumped the shark.

        They need to be put down like mad dogs or forced to seek psychiatric help……..I’m not sure which!

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        • Yeah some are a bit extreme , bless them.

          But you would love the chaos they cause outside parliament. Those wild West Coasters are quite a sight among the snooty Wellington crowd.

          Read the piece. It’s no more fake than some of the climate “science” Farrar promotes with religious zeal.

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    • Showing the real controlling power concepts in their article. 🙁

      GRETA THUNBERG
      Greta Thunberg is a Swedish climate activist.

      LUISA NEUBAUER
      Luisa Neubauer is a German climate activist.

      ANGELA VALENZUELA
      Angela Valenzuela is a coordinator of Fridays for Future in Santiago.

      Nov 29, 2019

      …….. That action must be powerful and wide-ranging.
      After all, the climate crisis is not just about the environment.
      It is a crisis of human rights, of justice, and of political will.
      Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression have created and fueled it.
      We need to dismantle them all.
      Our political leaders can no longer shirk their responsibilities.       ……
      https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/climate-strikes-un-conference-madrid-by-greta-thunberg-et-al-2019-11

      So really green on the outside, to con every one, and a true true bloody rage red on the inside .
      In training to be a ruthless cult. that will likely prove to be very dangerous, even to its own, if they backslide.

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