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  1. White Island eruption: Police Minister Stuart Nash calls for more ‘transparency and openness’ in operation
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/12/white-island-eruption-police-minister-stuart-nash-calls-for-more-transparency-and-openness-in-operation.html

    Police Minister Stuart Nash has hit out at police leading the operation following the White Island eruption.

    Minister Nash has now changed the leadership of the operation, diverting Mike Clement away from the Government’s buyback scheme to take over.
    Clement has been told by the minister to stop ignoring the advice of local pilot Mark Law who has extensive knowledge of flying in the area. Law believes he could have recovered the bodies by now, and will join the team of police planning the recovery operation.

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    • Actually the police had no idea of what was happening if one reads the news.
      The locals and the pilots ran the thing until the plods got to the rostrum. One chopper came from Rotorua, one from Whakatane and John Funnell was flying around the island in his fixed wing acting as comms as there was no comms there without him.
      The helicopter guys were all on the ground at home and went of their own volition.
      The police should be falling all over themselves praising these guys.

      The police are certainly not proactive in disaster situations and seem just to make things worse rather than expediting action. They simply are more risk averse than the locals with the knowledge.

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      • I also noted tht when one chopper arrived back at whakatane with injured people the crew had been left on the Island.
        When the pilot wanted to return for his crew he was told to leave the crewman on the island.
        That was never going to be an opition I wouldn’t think.

        Fortunately the crew came back on the next chopper. They police did not know that at the time and neither did the chopper pilot.

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          • No one wonders why you don’t think much of Police – you have never been ambiguous on that matter.
            Sadly our Police force don’t do themselves many favours and don’t deserve much support from the NZ Public.

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        • What sort of retarded call is that? Do these chumps have no idea whatsoever? They’re better left to issuing tickets on passing lanes and confiscating legal firearms. Seems that’s all they’re good for these days. I was heartened to hear that they now boast a “diverse” force; fills me with confidence. People will die, but they’ve got a good representation of minorities on the payroll. FS.
          Anyway, begrudgingly, I acknowledge that Nash has told them to pull finger on White Island. (You’re still a dick Nash). And put Clement on the job. (Another dick). Anyway Clement didn’t have anything better to do since they leaked the buyback info. Don’t imagine people queuing up to hand anything over now.

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    • It’s not as simple as quickly putting bodies on board and leaving. They have to put on a show too….

      “When the recovery mission takes place, a tohunga from Ngati Awa will accompany the recovery team to Whakaari. They will lead the karakia (blessing) for the deceased and ensure all tikanga are adhered to.

      The rāhui on Whakaari will only be lifted once all the bodies are off the island.”

      RNZ

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    • Isn’t this Nash interfering in a Police operational matter ? This is just Government headline grabbing.

      I’m glad they have replaced the guy but I think a local Police person would be better than a paper shuffler from Wellington.

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    • Yeah. Indeed. Before this – I wouldn’t have bothered to look at a Garrick Tremain cartoon, now because the lunatic left wants to censor him – I’ll go out of my way to read his stuff. In fact, may be he’ll be smart enough to publish a book of his cartoons – I’d go out and buy it just to stick two fingers up those daft dead beats bawling outside the ODT.

      And the editor, hand back your man card you cucked piece of shit – you are the problem you spineless piece of pocket lint.

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  2. Who thinks Stuart Nash is playing games with the Truth he is the Monister and buck stops with him so front and take some of the blame as you are responsible.
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/12/white-island-eruption-police-minister-stuart-nash-calls-for-more-transparency-and-openness-in-operation.html
    Two days ago you were trying to make political gain over this and blowing your trumpet that it was unfair to compare Pike River Mine Disaster to this ,well you can run but you can’t hide the mistakes you and the Police have made over this from day one it has been one fuck up after another with no respect for those that have died in this tragedy.

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  3. The Brits go to the polls tonight.

    Headache for Corbyn as Labour frontbencher says voters ‘can’t stand’ him
    https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6114759629001

    In a leaked phone conversation, Mr Ashworth said voters in the Midlands and the north “can’t stand corbyn” and said they “think Labor’s blocked brexit”.

    “Obviously no one in their right mind would vote for the labour party with a madman like Corbyn in charge” a voter said.

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    • A real UK Labour party activist on why he can never vote for UK Labour again

      This guy came to Turning Point UK – to ensure that his words got heard, he’s a full-on, old school Labour activist. The sort of person who defined the pre-Blair UK Labour party. He believes in Britain as a nation and in basic rights. People like him were why UK Labour was trusted and believable – the fact that he is now alienated from his political home shows how deep the cancer is in the worldwide socialist movement.

      The UK Labour that he is resiling from – is the one that Cindy found a home in when she worked in the UK.

      You can see the cross-fertilisation of ideas across countries (Corbyn wants to plant 10 billion trees and build 100,000n houses – sound familiar??). What he is talking about is not just UK Labour – this cancer is what is poisoning NZ Labour and it is the CoL.

      We all know NZ Labour is infinitely corrupted, everything this Welsh guy says about UK Labour is here too. Cindy loves the UN, the UN is anti-semitic in just about every resolution it passes, Cindy is adored by Corbyn – to use a Cindy device… “She is them, they are her”.

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      • Well said.

        There seems to be a home now in Democracies (?) for Kooky ideas where the holder of such gets large support.
        Labour /NZ got in with the help of Mon Oncle Winnie;
        Shorten in AU was kicked to the curb but was not too far behind the winner and was picked to be winner by the dodgy media filth;
        Bernie Sanders in USA encapsulates these ‘Back to the Future of 1955’ views and should have been the Demon candidate in 2016 but for the manoeuvrings of Killary and her henchwomen;
        Corbyn with utterly crazy ideas has far more support than is healthy but jeez the state of politics in UK is dire with so many Turncoat Torys; the mad followers of fishy Sturgeon, and the worse than ever Lib Dems.

        As much as MMP is bad (give me an STV ! ) the FPP system shows its massive inadequacies here.
        2015 Brexit Party got one in eight votes but one seat of 650.

        If Labour UK were to gain No 10 then Diane Abbott could conjure up these houses and trees.
        She would use ‘new maths’ and get some Haiti witch doctors to magic it all up.
        No sweat Monday. ..and on Tuesday she will …..

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  4. Is it the last day in Paliament today for the year and how long has it been that Grant Robertson knew that deficits were on the way. This Government has been deceitful in there bid two hide Steven Joyce’s 13 billion hole and now they have to try and crank start the economy by borrowing 19 billion to help fix what they have fucked up.

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    • Again Robertson announces spend with no details. He just plucks a number out of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . thin air, announces it, and then works out how he’s going to spend it later. They’re running a country here, not a sausage sizzle. This is OUR money.

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        • There is a reason Robertson’s father went to prison for financial misappropriation.
          This was theft of other people’s money over a long period while he was paid to actually look after the money.
          Sound familiar.
          His father stole $120,000 over 10 years in the 1980s – basically 3 houses worth in Dunny 1980s value.

          Oh, and Robertson benefitted from this crime because even though he lived in Dunedin and went to university in Dunedin, because his father went to prison the family income dropped so Robertson qualified for a full ‘away from home’ bursary even while living at home.

          And yet, in a profile that I can’t find again but saved years ago:-
          “The Presbyterian values his parents taught their three sons fostered Grant’s belief in social justice”
          His father stole from his employer while being paid a salary and ended up a jailbird. He got 3 years jail time when white collar crime was treated very leniently (early 1990s) so it shows the seriousness.
          Allan Hawkins of Equiticorp only did three and a bit years.

          That is who handles your taxes and the country’s money.

          Common theme with that mob.
          The Minister of Social Welfare is Sepuloni whose mother is a convicted criminal of….Social welfare fraud.
          We used to laugh at the Cook Islands in the 1980s and there is criticism of how Fiji is run but this is the mob of convicted fraudsters’ kids who control NZs spending.

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        • How in hell will this shower of incompetents cope with two major earthquakes in a major city as well as a gfc?
          They can’t get the economics right with a fair wind, and every social indicator is worse as well.
          FFS

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    • And can I have confidence in the government that has blown millions in an oppressive yet pointless response against Licenced firearm owners, has blown a heap of dough with its ill considered and unsuccessful foray into housing solutions, has already increased my taxation, has spent madly to buy an electoral seat for a party that let the country down……

      Could go on but this government is not trusted by me to make sound spending decisions using borrowed money while holding immigration at around 50000 per annum.

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  5. William John Funnell
    10 December at 13:15

    This message is to all the White Island keyboard warriors out there.

    Its is a tragedy that people have died at White Island. To put the risk in prospective, 140,000 walk the Tongariro Alpine crossing each year. Its is an active volcano that has erupted in recent years. The Mt Ruapehu ski-fields have around 10,000 people on them most days in the ski season, it is an active volcano that has erupted in recent years. Some 25,000 people live in the Taupo township against the lake edge. It is an active volcano. It has not erupted recently but the lake bed does heat up and volcanic gas bubbles up.

    And you can add to that Rotorua which has Tarawera as a friendly local and we know all about its history and then the Rotorua basin itself.
    Lifes a risk in this country.

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    • Life is always going to be a risk in some parts of NZ but what concerns me is that we are being feed the bull shit for political gain from our Prime Minister and Police Minister, they are there to lead and fix mistakes that happening not covering there own buts continually blaming others, it is there job and responsibility so the buck stops with them.

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        • Nash is the Minister he said it was unfair to compare this with Pike River yet John Key and the Police Minister made a decision and stuck by it and didn’t continually blame the police for there mistakes and even now it still hasn’t been proved after one and a half years of trying that they will get into Pike River to where the bodies apparently lay. These guys have to make decisions and live by them not blame everyone else except themselves or use it for political gain like Jacinda and Nash have done when tragedy has occurred.

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  6. This year has been one of the most pitiful ever in my life. Time magazine has announced Greta Thunderburger has been announced as their person of the year. Lovely photo of the happy little girl on the front cover. Once a fairly reputable magazine they have turned into a pathetic woke rag. OH happy days. When the woke are mad enough to believe all this tripe and nonsense. If Boris doesn’t win the election in Britain I really believe we have no chance and will have to be calling everyone comrade before the year is out.

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  7. The CC madness continues

    Greta Thunberg named Time Person of the Year 2019
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2019/12/greta-thunberg-named-time-person-of-the-year-2019.html

    Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg has been named Time magazine’s Person of the Year for 2019.

    Thunberg, who turns 17 in January and who is known for her blunt, straightforward speaking manner, has urged immediate action to address what she describes as the global climate crisis.

    Thunberg was lauded by Time for starting an environmental campaign in August 2018 which became a global movement, initially skipping school and camping out in front of the Swedish parliament to demand action.

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      • They could be like the victims of Pompeii, they are still preserved due to the ash magma turning to concrete surrounding them. Terrible way to go, but if they signed a form to agree to take the risk it was up to them. Not forced to go, I do feel very sad for the families left.

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    • No doubt about it- Labour are purely treating this as a publicity stunt now. This has nothing to do with Police or any safety concerns etc.
      Jacinda will be there crying and hugging family members while Maori chant and wail in the background.
      It’s all about Jacinda you see? That vile woman NEVER stops campaigning…
      Families of those poor deceased need to realise they are merely pawns in Labour’s little game

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  8. Seems like great “cultural enrichment” celebrations in Melbourne. 🙁

    Here they are missing a fish & chip wrapper wearing a respectful hijab that would have this all sorted as “#theyareus”. 🙁
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7775045/More-60-youths-rival-gangs-brawl-onlookers-terrifying-beachside-rampage.html

    Great encouragement for rail commuters with entertainment, to keep ones balance on a rail platform. 🙁
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7775987/Shock-footage-shows-Melbourne-gangs-brawling-dangerously-close-train-tracks.html

    A little bit of old fashion blood letting, may be a part of the “Ashura” celebrations? 🙁
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7766545/Six-people-rushed-hospital-brawl-Melbourne-convention-centre-Fares-Karam-concert.html

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  9. No wonder they won’t let the locals retrieve the bodies from White Island (Nash has now expressly forbidden it). They’re planning on turning this tragedy into a circus:
    “Ngāti Awa are front and centre of this operation so for the uplifting of the deceased, once that decision is made, Ngāti Awa will be going across to Whakaari/White Island on HMNZS Wellington.”

    A tohunga (expert) from Ngāti Awa, as well as a support person, will carry out the karakia, blessings and the upliftings of the tūpāpaku (deceased) in the most appropriate way, he said.”

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  10. How do these work? If there is any suspicion of drugs real or imagined will they be diverted? It will take the load of other courts but then so would increasing the number of courts.

    I imagine that penalties will be lower across the board. Are there rehab places? Are they on a good behaviour bond with a real sentence waiting to kick in if they breach?
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/118134107/new-drug-court-announced-for-hamilton

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  11. Many interesting comments about visiting active volcanoes on this guest Post on WUWT.
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/12/11/when-volcanoes-attack-white-island/
    I like the author’s recent comment:
    Until I started looking into it this morning, I was totally unaware of how well the NZ government protects the adventure tourism industry.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/118106636/whakaariwhite-island-eruption-killed-tourists-father-repeats-call-for-changes

    Yet they banned offshore oil & gas exploration.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/12/new-zealand-set-to-ban-oil-and-gas-drilling.html

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  12. Climate Alarmism claims another victim

    The once iconic naturalist and broadcaster – David Bellamy – has passed away.

    A brilliant man and a once ever-present face on British TV screens, fell foul of Climate Fascism and had to be de-platformed and professionally destroyed by the jack-booted Gestapo of the BBC. David Bellamy had the integrity to not roll-over and sell-out like the now discredited Walrus Apocolypse Attenborough, he recognised that as a scientist who was trusted by so many young viewers that he couldn’t lie about the fictional Chicken Little Climate Alarmism to the audience that trusted him so much – and of course the fascists had to silence him. His continued wrongthink had to be stamped out and he was extinguished from the TV screens.

    What a shame and another shameful act by the irredeemably corrupt and dishonest British broadcasting stormtroopers – they protect pedophiles and punish the honest. Time for the licence fee to go!

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  13. National’s health plan: Crackdown on DHB ‘postcode lottery’, re-establish health targets
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/12/national-s-health-plan-crackdown-on-dhb-postcode-lottery-re-establish-health-targets.html

    Health targets would be re-established and District Health Boards would have a common points system to avoid the so-called “postcode lottery”, if the National Party is elected in 2020.

    The Opposition’s health discussion document – the National Party’s eighth so far – also proposes improving school dental service access, reintroducing the Meth Action Plan, and creating a plan for dementia.

    -Crackdown on the DHB “postcode lottery”
    -Re-establish health targets

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  14. How Greta Thunberg’s critics reacted to her Time Person of the Year honour
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2019/12/how-greta-thunberg-s-critics-reacted-to-her-time-person-of-the-year-honour.html

    Donald Trump Jr accused Time of leaving “out the Hong Kong Protesters fighting for their lives and freedoms to push a teen being used as a marketing gimmick”.
    “How dare you?” he questioned, using a phrase Thunberg famously used at the United Nations in September.

    The 59-year-old former Top Gear host, who in September called Thunberg a “spoilt brat” and in November accused her of “killing the car show”, was gracious.

    “Congrats to @GretaThunberg from the old dinosaur,” he wrote on Twitter. “I think her dream is unrealistic but it’s hers and it’s shared by millions of others.”

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  15. Australian man scoffs down KFC at vegan protest in Sydney
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyle/2019/12/australian-man-scoffs-down-kfc-at-vegan-protest-in-sydney.html

    An Australian man has been filmed gnawing on fried chicken as a counter protest, near a vegan protest in Sydney last week.

    Tiktok user KenJake Lamar published the video online, in which spectators laugh as the man stands and eats KFC close to blindfolded vegans protesting the meat industry.

    Some people are just so insensitive! 😉

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  16. Gee the UK election is turning into a cluster f…
    From being well in the lead the Conservatives seem to be only a little bit ahead.
    What with Brexit that no one really understands
    And Corbyn promising a huge welfare bribe and nationalization.
    What is there to chose from?

    None one likes Corbyn, yet Labour are coming up in the polls
    And Boris seems to dislike being around cameras (hiding in fridges)

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  17. The UK polls open in four hours time for what may prove the most important or possibly the most damaging election our former Colonial power has ever voted in. Things look very bleak for our former colonial power whichever party comes out on top.

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    • Ardern will be seriously pissed! Rumours are that she was stunned when she missed out on that Nobel Prize (She flew Stephen Colbert here specially for her coronation remember?)
      Expect to be bombarded with more blatant publicity stunts like her revolting, tasteless effort following the White Island tragedy…

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  18. In the aftermath of the White Island disaster I’m dreading what is to come from the mad women & emasculated males of Worksafe.

    These imbeciles who have to date given us legions of Pommie “elf & safety” freaks complete with hard hats, clipboards & attitudes will now turn their attention away from requiring another 500,000 road cones & concentrate their efforts on fucking the adventure tourism industry.

    If you’re planning on making a one way trip to the eternal waste transfer station any time in the future take one of these arseholes with you to keep you company!

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    • It’s strange, you watch the american reality shows and they dodn’t half the shit we do!
      Our H & S have got to be some of the worst in the world.
      I put it down to all of the woman in h&s who have never worked in any construction!
      They are scared, so because they are scared, they want to laden down everbody else!
      Saffold above 2m, harness, hard hat, gloves, gaoggles, safety boots, induction, safety plan, portable toilet, smoko room,drinking water.
      It all comes down to woman elevated above their station in life!

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      • ……”t all comes down to woman elevated above their station in life!”……

        I’ll largely pass on expressing my opinion on women’s life stations & confine my comment to noting that those lacking Y chromosomes in general also lack common-sense, humour, applied intelligence, life experience, work experience, judgement, flexibility of thought & generally treat those unfortunate enough to work under them as children. They’re often patronising, react according to feelz & are inclined to run to fat.

        With guidance & a firm hand they make great nurses & do a passable job in early education.

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      • “Saffold above 2m, harness, hard hat, gloves, gaoggles, safety boots, induction, safety plan, portable toilet, smoko room,drinking water.”

        Don’t forget the wellness forms that have to be filled out on the day. I kid you not.
        It’s fucking crazy !~

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    • I s’pose I should be grateful for all the H&S regulations, because it meant hubby was only too happy to stop working at 60.

      For years he’d clambered around building sites, power stations, factories, etc just wearing his casual clothes and ordinary shoes.

      But when he had to rig up with steel-capped boots and a hard-hat for climbing up cranes, he felt he had less balance.
      The final straw was having to don a full thermal protective body suit, gloves, hard-hat and protective goggles when working in Haywards substation. He said he started overheating within seconds, couldn’t manipulate his equipment with gloves on, and felt really clumsy….it was much easier and safer when he had just wandered through the place in ordinary garb and kept one hand in his pocket for safety.

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  19. Oh dear, oh dear!

    Consider this travesty of the truth and its consequences.

    “The Chief Ombudsman acknowledges the partnership between Māori and the Crown established by the Treaty of Waitangi, and recognises it to be a critical factor in carrying out his work as the independent watchdog for Parliament overseeing and reporting on the actions of New Zealand crown agencies……
    https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1912/S00176/chief-ombudsman-announces-advisory-group-of-rangatira.htm

    It is urgent that the people of New Zealand be told of this treachery and betrayal.

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    • “I am delighted that my office has taken this step and that our first external advisory group called Pūhara Mana Tangata, has been formed by representatives of tangata whenua for tangata whenua.”

      “Pūhara Mana Tangata conveys our role as a watchtower ensuring fairness for all, particularly Māori.”

      “Fairness for all, particularly Maori.” So no, tangata whenua looking after the interests of tangata whenua so not fairness for all then?! 😕

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  20. In case you ever wondered but didn’t want to ask.

    …….” Between 150,000 and 250,000 road cones are sold into the New Zealand market each year……….there are over a million road cones out there on our streets at any given time. Each one weighs 5kg and has a 5-year lifespan.”…….

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11894187

    What would the Chinese plastics industry do if it weren’t for the H&S fetishists of our nanny state?

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    • I am quite OK with the statement made by Gerry Brownlie. We have maintained an influx of immigration that is far too high and poses severe infrastructural problems. There is also the evidence in other countries with high numbers of immigrants where social issues are being generated as a consequence of high migration.

      My view is Ms Gharahman has a far more unsatisfactory approach and my concern with her attitude is way above anything from Mr Brownlie.

      Good on him for raising his concerns; I share them. Those concerns should not be shoved aside in a PC wave. The issues are longterm.

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  21. Isn’t it ironic that the police Minister is calling for more openness
    and transparency from our Police force when he himself has been uneconomic with the truth on gun laws and the Goverment has been less transparent and honest over sexual assaults that have happened in their Party gun laws, immigration and the blatant lies over the get Wellington moving debacle.
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/12/white-island-eruption-police-
    minister-stuart-nash-calls-for-more-transparency-and-openness-in-operation.html
    Labour and there MP’S border themselves on being corrupt and think it’s there entitlement and then have the audacity to call other out for the same problem they have.

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  22. ‘Twas the night before Christmas at Rock-Away Rest,
    and all of us seniors were looking our best.
    Our glasses, how sparkly, our wrinkles, how merry;
    Our punchbowl held prune juice plus three drops of sherry.

    A bed sock was taped to each walker, in hope
    That Santa would bring us soft candy and soap.
    We surely were lucky to be there with friends,
    Secure in this residence and in our Depends.

    Our grandkids had sent us some Christmassy crafts,
    Like angels in snowsuits and penguins on rafts.
    The dental assistant had borrowed our teeth,
    And from them she’d crafted a holiday wreath.

    The bed pans, so shiny, all stood in a row,
    Reflecting our candle’s magnificent glow.
    Our supper so festive — the joy wouldn’t stop —
    Was creamy warm oatmeal with sprinkles on top.

    Our salad was Jell-O, so jiggly and great,
    Then puree of fruitcake was spooned on each plate.
    The social director then had us play games,
    Like “Where Are You Living?” and “What Are Your Names?”

    Old Grandfather Looper was feeling his oats,
    Proclaiming that reindeer were nothing but goats.
    Our resident wand’rer was tied to her chair,
    In hopes that at bedtime she still would be there.

    Security lights on the new fallen snow
    Made outdoors seem noon to the old folks below.
    Then out on the porch there arose quite a clatter
    (But we are so deaf that it just didn’t matter).

    A strange little fellow flew in through the door,
    Then tripped on the sill and fell flat on the floor.
    ‘Twas just our director, all togged out in red.
    He jiggled and chuckled and patted each head.

    We knew from the way that he strutted and jived
    Our social- welfare cheques had arrived.
    We sang — how we sang — in our monotone croak,
    Till the clock tinkled out its soft eight-p.m. stroke.

    And soon we were snuggling deep in our beds.
    While nurses distributed nocturnal meds.
    And so ends our Christmas at Rock-Away Rest.
    ‘fore long you’ll be with us , We wish you the best

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  23. Cindys private policeman Mike Bush is returning from overseas to oversee the recovery at day light tomorrow!
    What do we read between the lines, with this anoucement?
    Cindy and Labour have lost the PR war?
    It’s arse covering time!
    Is jethro going to run them out in our boat to the island?

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  24. Having we had a good 208 posts on a range of subjects.
    Upset some Labour lackyes. Formented merry mischief by all.
    Well done chaps and chappeses, be sure to come back tomorrow, you all hear now!
    At least we had somewhere to forment mischief, not like the other place.

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