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  1. The soft cock journalist wants Western governments to solve the refugee Isis problem, as if it was their fault.

    Or perhaps it is, as any full on debate, discussion about islam is pretty well censored and shut down in many western countries.

    The journalist is arrogant, not knowing the chronological order of the koran, the power of the abrogation verses, the hadith & sira, and most likely still claims he knows their culture.
    Certainly not their ideology and what drives islam.

    https://news.sky.com/story/islamic-state-new-mini-caliphate-forms-at-syrian-al-hol-camp-11858828
    4 mins 44 secs.
    One can quickly read the whole article,
    The 10 year old boy did everything right, as Mohammad himself often practiced.
    To call the journalist to islam. ….. Like Ardern’s national adhan to NZ.
    Then telling the journalist what his duty was as recommended by Mohammad.
    1m-44 sec to 2 min.

    The journalist calls ISIS “a warped evil cult”. Sure he is right.
    Now just read the source, the sayings, guidance & lifestyle of Mohammad, plus that has been the basis of 1400 years of history,
    If the cap fits, then call it all out!

    Now what are Western countries to do? Trials back in Western countries? Trials in Syria? Under what laws?
    What would be the sentence? same as honour killings? a wet bus ticket?
    Sure it is tragic, and sad, but some very tough decisions need to be made.

    Will Turkey or other rogue elements let them free to infiltrate back to their home countries, or gather in other countries to bring to bear their islamic influence.

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    • Sadly, there will always be some form of ISIS, Taleban or Boko Harem.
      (they are like a hydra)
      The whole world would be better off without islam and its evil laws
      China and Myanmar have the answers.

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      • It helps the media here to shy away from problems the Government have been trying to hide , so now the want as much as they can get from Trump to suit there one eyed narrative.

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      • (they are like a hydra)
        though in the end Heracles and his nephew Iolaus prevailed in the relentless battle and finished the hydra. 🙂

        This is what I believe muslims want hidden, using sacredness, blasphemy, loss of free speech, to cover and disguise the stages of their ideology.
        This needs to be opened up to full ongoing discussion, to be questioned, and openly debated in the West.

        Knowledge of our selves, knowing our weakness’s to rebuild to strength.
        Knowledge of the ideology, to be fully discussed, openly debated.

        What many of the squeamish do not realize that full on exposure of that ideology will go a long way to slowing if not totally stopping this tragic ideology and in comparison, less blood will be spilt.
        The West self imposed censorship will just pressurize the system, Initially it will allow the advance of islam, until it become very difficult to cope with this. Not every one will want to capitulate.
        At the same time the scent of success for islam will drive them to complete their success, as history has proven.

        In the past 1400 years, much of the Levant, North Africa, Spain, Turkey and the Balkans as Persia, Afghanistan down into India, and their tragic on going blood baths, such as the Hindu Kush, Armenian genocide. and those modern day groups touched on by DigNap15

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    • That is such a tragic situation and their beliefs are so abhorrent. There is nothing the West can change to undo such a belief in daish and now refugees who fled the califate are breeding with daish women to create another generation of martyrs.

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      • “their beliefs are so abhorrent ….”
        ….. nothing the West can change to undo such a belief

        I agree wg but it needs to go further.
        The West needs to understand itself, That is what needs to change.

        Al-Azhar University a university in Cairo, Egypt, has consistently refrained from proclaiming the members of terror organizations, chief of them ISIS, to be infidels or totally contrary to islamic teachings.
        Well that is because it lines up very well as that muslima in the video said, “It is in the koran”.

        Tragically many of the West’s university seem to support Al Azhar university, with no questions, no discussion and no debate.

        And so the West’s “academia” are led by the nose, blinded with money as to gain “tenure” and “sinecure” with chairs, departments, studies and courses.
        A major influence on media, politicians the UN and so infecting western civilization.
        They all support this abhorrent ideology in principle.

        First, the West needs to know itself, instead of selling out to any “cock a hoop” theory of soft living that comes along.

        Whatever happens, a tough world will happen, and the risk of a total “jahiliyyah” could prevail.

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        • You are so correct Simpleton1

          if you are a muslim, then that is what you must and will believe.

          The west just had far too many sickly white liberals in positions of influence and power.

          And now, in this PC World it is hard to fight back against them.

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          • The worst enemy.
            Meet thyself, or your own community, or country.

            Winston Churchill’s biggest knack, was to bring a cohesive unity, particularly to the UK., during WW2.
            He did make mistakes and errors,
            It was the people who that he kept unified, with the purpose of winning the war.

            Yet he had doubts, of the people particularly when an Oxford Union debate 9 February 1933
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_and_Country_debate

            And so we need to keep these ideological , islam, PC., multi-culture, issues alive, so they will be discussed and debated in full detail, despite all the degenerate PC madness.

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    • Interesting short film that should be a serious warning to all western governments and especially to ministers as ignorant of the reality of Islam as Ardern. Sadly the best solution for the Al Hor camp (breeding ground) is to turn it into a glass car park.

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      • Re: Ardern and frowney face wrapped in hijab. The Al Noor mosque had at least 2 jihadis from NZ who worshipped there killed overseas in drone strikes. I have also heard that a couple of people killed in the mass-murder were being monitored by the SIS. This is no reason for mass murder and arbitrary terror, but these are still contributing factors which should be included in any ‘Why” discussion.
        This is because Tarrant chose the Christchurch mosque after initially planning to target Dunedin, precisely since it had supplied foreign fighters for Jihad. He choose Islam as a ‘reviled minority’ and choose NZ, to show the world that even in this corner of the globe ‘the invaders are here’. He chose to use firearms to further create political tension and division.
        I am by no means a supporter of Tarrant’s actions in any sense. He did immense hard to everyone, including anyone who is an ideological and intellectual critic of Islam or a diversity sceptic.
        It was however terrible for the public that the manifesto was banned, so that the shooter became a Trump supporting white supremacist Christian in some minds instead of a fairly garbled but slef declared identitarian, eco-fascist who had nicer things to say about the Chinese Communist Party than he did about Trump, and signed off with a salutation about Valhalla.

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    • From that Syria’s al-Hol prison camp, probably even that snowy head boy and his mother, the ones with Finnish connections.
      aimed primarily at importing children of Islamic State members — but the plan also states that “all persons who agree to return” could be included in the operation.
      https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/12/14/leaked-document-shows-finland-preparing-take-back-islamic-state-members/
      So the virtuous almost all female government of Finland, believe they can rehabilitate, and de radicalize those pious & righteous muslims so they will become good workers and taxpayers.

      She asks the snake why it bit her even though she took it in and cared for it, to which it responds: “Shut up silly woman! You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in!”

      Just who are the real snakes?
      The Finns voted those leftist woman parties for all of those “feelz good” “virtue signalling”.

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    • The journalist offers excuses for the ideology behind this:
      “Clad head-to-toe in their black niqabs, the IS wives claim to represent the purest form of Islam. But the so-called Islamic State they joined was the opposite. ”
      Wrong.
      I have heard a very impassioned video from a former Muslim years ago; who wanted to tell non-Muslims that ‘they are not Muslims/That is not Islam’ was a lie. The members of ISIS represented the best and purest version of Islam, and this is why they had such an appeal internationally and people come to live there.
      Rather makes sense. When you see the horrors and the atrocities and then flock in that direction – it says much for the mentality of the extremists.

      And as someone pointed out before – ” If Islam is a religion of peace, why are the extremists not extremely peaceful?”

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  2. I suppose that now it is Monday, the MSM will be full of stories about the Trump Impeachment.

    It gets a very tedious after a while

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    • All we need now is for someone to do a similar site that shows all Nationals collaborations with Labour.
      Where would you start.
      Gun buyback, private property confiscation……
      Feel free to add more.

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      • ETS, Zero Carbon bill

        I agree, but I’m still not voting for a party (ACT) that has been on 1% for the last 6 years, with a leader who spent all of his time on one issue, which should be a conscious issue, and who has less charisma than a wet fish.

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        • This is the bit I really don’t understand.

          You won’t do the one thing that will lift them above 1%.

          But you will vote for more Labour policies and a party that supports Labour policies and a party that takes away all the rights of Kiwis.

          Why?

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            • I just explained above.
              I would like them to do well to get 2 or 3 seats.
              But after all the talk on here about everyone going to vote for ACT after Nationals back downs, they went from 1 to 2%!

              Where are their policies on the main issues.
              Why do they insist on having a school boy as a leader?

              I Prefer the New Conservatives.
              They will pull out of the Paris Accord.

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              • Where are their policies on the main issues.
                On their policies page. It has click through links to more detail for the major policies.

                You can also look at their principles. Those are the governing ideas that help form any direction they set and is the ethical / moral / whatever framework they operate within.

                Why do they insist on having a school boy as a leader?
                The one politician in New Zealand that actually opposed most of Labour’s anti-New Zealand policies and you call him a school boy. Nice one.

                On Wednesday, three hours was a long time in politics. At 1pm, Simon Bridges told journos at Parliament that Labour had wasted its way into deficit. By 4pm, National was voting for Labour’s hare-brained scheme to spend $300 million on a taxpayer-backed venture capital fund.

                Quoted from ACT website for effect. They do a weekly “Politics in full sentences” where they talk you through the shit the other political parties are getting up to. Worth a read.

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              • A quick search for “What are Christian values” … quoted from the unquotable Wikipedia:

                Love of God and neighbors: “You shall love the Lord your God with all of your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might”, an excerpt from the Shema Deut.6:5 (Matthew 22:37). This is the first half of the statement and the second half, given equal weight, is “love your neighbor as yourself” upon which hang all the Law and all the prophets (Matthew 22:36-40).

                Fidelity in marriage: “Whom God has joined together let no man put asunder” (Matthew 19:6)

                Renunciation of worldly goods: “Gather not your riches up upon this earth, for there your heart will be also” (Matthew 6:21).

                Renunciation of vengeance: “If a man strikes you on one cheek, turn the other cheek” (Luke 6:29).

                Forgiveness of sins: “Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us” (Matthew 6:12).

                Unconditional love: “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” (Luke 6:27-28).

                So, no capitalism. Friendship and love for everyone. Embracing our enemies and those who seek to do us harm. Staying married to people you dislike.

                Nope, I don’t subscribe to those values. Or do you mean the ten commandments?

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              • I hate that I have to say this; but I did not down-tick you for this comment. We are having an exchange of ideas, and that is resolved in discussion – not through these up / down ticks.

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                • Woops I’ve just changed my mind.
                  I no longer adhere to Christian Values.
                  More like the ten Commandments.

                  But if there was a war between Christendom and islam again, you know whose side I’d be on!

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                  • You are a very confused soul diggy. If you can change your mind over your christian values, after reading Pascals good argument, there might be hope that you may see the light and change your support away from the new god botherers pardy.
                    Come on Pascal, you are doing good work here.

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                  • Hahahaha. That surprised me as well. The Ten Commandments are probably closer:

                    I am the Lord thy God
                    Thou shalt have no other gods before me
                    Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
                    Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain
                    Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy
                    Honour thy father and thy mother
                    Thou shalt not murder
                    Thou shalt not commit adultery
                    Thou shalt not steal
                    Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
                    Thou shalt not covet neighbour’s house
                    Thou shalt not covet neighbour’s wife
                    Thou shalt not covet neighbour’s slaves, animals, or anything else

                    Unfortunately I do covet a lot of what my neighbours have. It inspires me to work harder for what I want.

                    But it does highlight something for me – what are the values we see as “Kiwi”? What would be our central statement of who we are?

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        • There appears from listening to other Kiwis who have never voted Act before a growing groundswell who will do so at the 2020 election. This is Acts best chance to raise the number of MP’s entering parliament and have some real influence to stem the rising tide of socialism and growing totalitarianism being forced on our Kiwi way of life.

          PS: thanks for fixing the edit function Ed. 👍

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        • Er, Um …
          I don’t think anyone here has stuck their neck out (and been shot down) as anti-euthenasia more than I have, so I suppose that should make me an ACT hater.
          Far from it.
          Granted, Seymour could do with an image makeover, but to say he’s been ‘single issue’ just isn’t true Diggy. Seymour has stood firm on a number of issues dear to the hearts of YSBers – like guns and freedom of speech.

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        • Actually DigNap, David has attended gun shows and met firearms owners, fronted protests and been really strong on Freedom of Speech and the rights of law abiding people.
          So hardly 1 issue, although he does deserve credit on getting a referendum on euthanasia.
          Actually shows what one principled and dedicated person can do.
          And if they are showing a lift in the polls, and David gets Epsom again – they could well be more than one MP next time.
          So ACT are worth supporting on principle and practical reasons.

          (The only thing I don’t appreciate is the feeling that ACT also consider Islam is just another quaint religion or culture like any other – I see it as an intellectual and moral toxin, just like Marxism set on full-retard threw up violent red Brigade terrorists and Maoist irregular fighters in the 20th century. I will also point out that we must of course treat culturally Muslim people as decent human beings in the first instance, and that the enemy is the awful influence of Islamic belief. The influence of Islam is like mental illness. Functional people through to truly dangerous people. Perhaps there isn’t any benefit in stating opposition to Islam as a politician, but I hope there is that realism around There’s-Just-Something-About-Islam. “It’s the Islam, Stupid!”).

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          • Seymour does not consider Islam an immediate threat or he didn’t at a meeting I attended and I asked.

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          • For me that is covered by his approach of checking New Zealand values. No, it is not perfect. But we have many well functioning Muslims living in NZ who share the same values. We have many people of all religions that espouse violence against nonbelievers living in NZ and so far none of them have turned against us.

            You only need one, true. But would you deport all others, including Sommy Bill Williams?

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      • Ed I apologize if you though I was complaining about the edit button Yesterday but I though being first on I would the heads up that it was not working.

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        • It hasn’t worked since Saturday. They updated WordPress and it wasn’t compatible with the comments plugin.

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  3. Right I am not the sharpest person on the block when comes to science and what you can do to help in the battle to reduce climate change, but I wonder why when you a 3 billion dollar war chest to help you regain the Treasury Benches at the 2020 Election that you haven’t built or planned a way to produce gas out of our plastic and other wastes.
    https://i.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/118217272/wasted-opportunity-why-nz-needs-to-build-its-own-recycling-plants
    Why start and tell the world what you are doing about climate change when you have a problem to addressing this rubbish and you can’t just send it out in shipping containers to another poor country in the world to dispose of it.

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    • So this schoolgirl expert says “This is dwarfed by the huge emissions from agriculture and energy which are mainly a result of road transport and unsustainable practices in the dairy industry.” The last 6 words really annoy me, she would have no idea what she is saying. We have a certain number of cows because there is a market for their products – if that number was cut by half what would happen to the requirements of that half market share. Nor would she have any idea just how many people are involved in this whole industry and the associated towns and regions economic welfare.

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    • This is one green industry the government SHOULD be getting involved with. Sending plastics and any recyclables overseas seems both paradoxically wasteful in terms of energy, and also a measure of insincerity.
      I don’t think anyone can say the climate doesn’t change over time
      I don’t think anyone is pro-pollution of land, air and water.
      What people do doubt with validity is the detail, around whether solar or carbon cycles dirve change, and how much do humans factor in?
      What people seem to be against is Marxist and intersectional politics hijacking hysteria, and using the moral panic to push for wealth redistribution and self-criticism and weakening of the West.

      With this in mind, and back to recycling onshore – if the government was to set up such industry, and even run it as a loss and consider it simply a social good and social duty – this is one thing my tax dollars would be well spent upon.
      for one thing, likely to employ people here, ‘do the right thing’, and it doesn’t mean money going to nations like China or India (who can fund space flights for vanity, but can’t clean up their own rivers).

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  4. Yes just sending our plastic waste overseas was terrible.
    Who ever authorised it should be named and shamed.
    They just burn it in other countries.

    We had a good company in this field of tech Lanza, but they went overseas.

    To me some plastic is worth recclying eg Milk bottles and large plastic containers eg dish-washing liquid and those big 2L plastic cans.

    But some is just too small to bother with. It must cost 4 times as much time and energy and transport to sort, clean and recullye them.

    Just bury them, we have a big country full of valleys.

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    • Has anyone yet explained why the apple stickers have to go?

      No I thought not.

      Here’s the reason.
      Frowny face can’t eat her apple a day because the stickers are attracted to her choppers and she can’t unstick them becuase she is no longer allowed plastic tooth picks.

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  5. I’ve been told all consents involving storm water discharge to the curb are on hold in Auckland city , council can’t help with how long this situation will last anyone know anything about this

    That’s correct AT are in process of setting a specialist team to address Kerb Side discharge approvals, unfortunately this will likely take some time to happen,

    Buil;d a house they said.
    Get a consent they said.
    How many consents we asked and who give out these consents we asked?

    Coming to a town near you.
    More ways to slow down new houses.

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    • Viking
      I want to talk to you about the Tauranga City councils plans for Cameron Road.
      I just skimmed through them last night. They are terrible.
      They think that the way to decrease congestion is to build more bus shelters

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      • Yeah, well they would wouldn’t they. We can’t even have an afternoon of races now without congestion becuase of the way the fucked the road here.
        Idiots on computers. all round.

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  6. Courtesy of Hobsons Pledge.

    “Media release – immediate release

    Brash: No justification for race-based spectrum give-away
    There is not the slightest justification for allocating any resource which is the common property of all New Zealanders on the basis of race, Hobson’s Pledge spokesman Don Brash said today.

    In a deal announced yesterday, Telcos will be able to bid for 160MHz of the “early release” spectrum, with 50MHz set aside for Maori.

    The rights would only apply until the end of October 2022, although industry sources said it was assumed Māori would also receive 50MHz of the long-term rights in the band.

    “This Government seems hell-bent on building a state where Maori have different and preferential rights and privileges. In South Africa, we called it apartheid,” Dr Brash said.

    “Why is the Government proposing to allocate any part of the 5G spectrum on racial grounds?” he said.

    “The 5G spectrum is a resource for all New Zealanders which should be allocated by the Government without regard to race,” Dr Brash said.

    “If to Maori, why not reserve some for Asians, some for Pacific Islanders, and some for Europeans?” he said.”

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    • They are the chosen special ones. Didn’t you know Maui navigated here using his 5g Bluetooth smartphone on his fishing trip.

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      • Yep, used it to eveade the fisheries inspectors.

        But didn’t work. Just lost their boats and quota’s. Down Napier way.

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    • Doesn’t matter how much they’re given, they still need to put their grubby mitts in the till. The last couple of days sees the Kingitanga front man pleading guilty to fraud, and then when they’re onto him he bullshits the SFO. Dishonest AND stupid. And Howard Morrison’s daughter stealing to the tune of $1.3m. FS dad will be turning in his grave. What is it about stiffing whitey by fair means or foul? And these people are at the top of the heap. Feel sorry for the honest Maori who gets tarnished by all this stuff.

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    • Why is this wealth not filtering down to ordinary people? All these treaty claims and outcomes for Maori are not getting any better.

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    • What the fuck?
      Why? Have those who proposed giving Maori a part of the 5G spectrum explained exactly why?
      Nobody could even conceive of this in 1840, so how can this spectrum be part of any toanga which they possessed?
      And what about the Te Tiriti principle of having the rights and responsibilities of other {British at the time} citizens?
      What the fuck?

      It just seems to be a desire for politicians to out-virtue each other, without ever stopping to look if it makes sense or has any merits on its own.
      The emperor has no clothes.
      We are running by people who are worse than idiots!

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  7. When are the dirty grubby sodomists having their annual fisting party in Auckland?
    Will the Auckland ratepayer be forced to contribute again?
    Will P Goof be there dressed in his gimp suit?
    Asking for a friend.

    Im over this crappy weather here in Christchurch grrrr. Off to the Goldy tomorrow for the heatwave and some much needed sun. A relo sent me a screenshot of the temperature in her car yesterday…49 deg ! Cant wait to throw my big arse in their pool.

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  8. You know you have lost the plot when:

    John Tamihere brands journalist a ‘white supremacist’ for mayoral campaign donation story.

    A failed mayoral candidate has branded a Stuff journalist a “white supremacist” in reaction to an article about his funding campaign for the election.

    John Tamihere, in a text message sent to Stuff senior Auckland affairs reporter Todd Niall on Friday night, wrote “Great article. From a white supremacist”.

    Niall had reported how Te Whanau o Waipareira, a social agency trust Tamihere heads, was his biggest donor in his mayoral campaign.

    The trust donated $100,000 of his total $498,609 campaign cost – revealed in Tamihere’s formal campaign spending and donation declaration filed on Friday.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/118209668/john-tamihere-brands-journalist-a-white-supremacist-for-mayoral-campaign-donation-story

    Tamihere responded with “Todd … nice … Maori/Brown folk can support mayoral candidates like white folk like you … print that.”

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    • Surely this is not the same Trust that donated the large sum of money to Matt McCarten’s slave gate scheme before the last General Election that the electoral commission could not come with.

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  9. Guilty plea for ‘face’ of Māori King Rangi Whakaruru throws Tainui into turmoil

    A senior Tainui figure who worked alongside the now-disgraced right-hand-man to the Māori King says the episode has done “huge damage” to the kīngitanga movement and “betrayed” tens of thousands of tribal members.

    Rangi Whakaruru pleaded guilty this morning to six charges of obtaining by deception and lying to authorities, over his conduct while senior private secretary to Māori King Tūheitia.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12294319
    What goes around comes around.
    Its not that many years ago when the Kings henchman Tuku Morgan was borrowing from the Maori TV pot to buy fancy underpants.

    https://www.google.co.nz/search?sxsrf=ACYBGNSSx8PLcmGrHZNTEV89DccgZ4gSiw%3A1576520423715&source=hp&ei=58r3XaXiKamY4-EPqZW72As&q=tuku+morgan+%2B+underpants&oq=tuku+morgan+%2B+underpants&gs_l=psy-ab.3…1173.13337..15687…1.0..1.1095.4351.0j6j2j1j0j1j1j1……0….1..gws-wiz…….0i22i30j0i13i30.GPKPYhcR_iQ&ved=0ahUKEwjl8dae5LrmAhUpzDgGHanKDrsQ4dUDCAU&uact=5

    such fun.
    Was that different? Only in scale.

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    • Thats just the tip of the iceberg Id imagine. I see the thief used some of the stolen money for a gastric bypass. Didnt the murri climate change what-ever-the-fuck-she-is convicted fraudster do the same thing?

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  10. and yesterday we had a local Maori calling for the sacking of our highest polling councillor becuase of his remarks before the election about the TOW.
    Today we have Ken Mair trying the same shit over the naming of streets in Wanganui.

    Time they realised that Kiwi’s are getting fed up with thier constant bleating.

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    • One wonders why Simon will not rule out working with the drunken dwarf as well. Makes a mockery of this decision. Is he having a bob each way and desperate enough TO work with him?
      At least JK knew which way was up.

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      • I agree in someways.
        But If Simon cut him off with just a few months to go, that would really resonate wit the voters.
        Wnston always comes back!

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      • I don’t think that she did, but it is the norm for the electorate MP to endorse.

        “JPs have to be given the nod by their electorate MP – in Tamaki’s case National’s Judith Collins. But it’s the Associate Minister of Justice – Labour’s Aupito William Sio – who made the final call.

        “It’s bizarre, and you’ve just got to ask yourself, what was going through the minister’s head here?” Bridges said.”

        Newshub asked the Prime Minister if she thinks Justices of the Peace should be upstanding members of the community.

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  11. With the last Cabinet meeting for the year occurring yesterday it looks like the Prime Minister wants to bury problems like Ihumatao, the public Media decision and the Labour Sexual Assaults Report by Maria Dew QC that was due out over a month ago into next year hoping the public have a good Xmas and New Years holidays that will help them forget the reports and the decisions that will be unveiled next year.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=12294361

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    • Cindy is treating voters like mushrooms – keeping us in the dark and feeding us bullshit!! She must think we are all stupid and have the attention span of a gnat but YSB won’t forget… I’m already stocking up on popcorn for 2020. It is going to be a very busy political year particularly after they sell your soul to the devil windfall for all the bludgers and students in Robbo’s glorious ‘It’s Raining Money’ budget!
      Start training today, the election period is going to be crazy and very intense.

      🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿

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  12. Paroled fraudster David Ross’ remorse for $115m Ponzi scheme ‘won’t bring closure’, victims say
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/paroled-fraudster-david-ross-remorse-115m-ponzi-scheme-wont-bring-closure-victims-say?auto=6116067822001

    Ross Asset Management Investors group spokesperson, Bruce Tichbon said Ross was an appalling liar so really hoped his apology is genuine.

    “His remorse will help a little bit, but it won’t bring closure to people who worked for 40 years to save up a retirement nest egg to have it stolen by this man.”

    “The guy is really the most amazing liar and fraudster I think, but we have to accept that ultimately he has to be released, he has to be able to come back into the community again, we can’t see that anyone will give him money to invest again in the future but that could potentially happen.”

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  13. Alice..
    I watched your PJW that you linked to yesterday (thanks)
    In the Youtube sidebar was a documentary on the Mexican Mormon/Drug Cartel Wars.
    It was made in 2012, just before the US elections, where Mitt Romney was the Republican presidential candidate. (Operation Fast and Furious was in 2011)

    Rino Romney’s father was from this Mexican Mormon colony and the Romney clan are still there today. These Mormons had moved to Mexico to avoid US law forbidding plural marriages.

    With the Narco’s ambush and murder of the Mormon family in Mexico last month, I decided to watch the doco.
    Well worth the time.

    Mexico has firearm laws that Jacinda would wet herself for, and this documentary should be compulsory viewing for her and her gun grabbing cohorts.

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  14. The resounding Conservative UK election victory shows the “average voter” has vehemently rejected “the most left-wing Labour manifesto in history,” along with its “antisemite” leader in Jeremy Corbyn, according to Sky News host Peta Credlin.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6TftC7pH-E

    Why doesn’t NZ have straight talking political journos?

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    • Can you see National and Simon doing any of that stuff? Nah Neither can I. They are so hell bent on thinking they are the nations natural leaders that they will do anything to get there. The rest of us will vote for ACT in the hope that they get enough votes to pull National into line. To pinch the phrase from Winston;

      VOTE ACT TO KEEP NATIONAL HONEST

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      • “Can you see National and Simon doing any of that stuff? Nah Neither can I. They are so hell bent on thinking they are the nations natural leaders that they will do anything to get there.”

        And there you have the heart of it, ENTITLEMENT! National, Labour, NZF and the Greens believe they know better than the average voter, the silent majority, the quiet Kiwis who work hard, hold a family together through all the trials and tribulations life throws at everyone. All we want from government is what is best for the country, the majority – enough roads, good infrastructure, a decent health and education system and help for the unfortunates who cannot help themselves. The government isn’t needed for much more, get out of the way for everything else so we can build good productive lives for ourselves and our families. We don’t need your moralistic posturing. Bring on the next election – We can rebuild from the ashes.

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        • You forgot the most important thing governments are supposed to do.
          Protect our borders – army and customs
          Protect our people – police.

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  15. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0RVA3BjUOc
    Labour future uncertain after ‘worst election result since 1935’

    Sky News Host Alan Jones says he is not sure Labour “can rebuild” after a “complete landslide” victory for the Conservative Party in the UK general election.

    How did they all get it so wrong when it is obvious even to us on the other side of the world what the people of Britain wanted and who they would vote for?

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    • I agree that they have a big job to rebuild. To start with they have to elect a more centrist leader and rid themselves of the very far left. That might not be possible given the Party is already split with a group (very far left) called Momentum within its ranks.
      Credlin had Conroy on last night (a former Labor Senator who was born in the UK) . He was of the view that they will not be able to elect a centre left leader because the Trotskies have all the power at the moment. So they will probably shoot themselves in the foot.
      The other thing they will probably forget is that Brexit will not be an issue next time, so those traditional Labour voters who were strong leave voters will not “hold their nose” and vote Conservative in the next election.
      The ball is in their court and we will see if they have enough political brain cells to enable them to survive.

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    • Did the papers here have their great Labour victory pieces written pre the election and were caught flat footed?

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  16. And in india
    They are still protesting violently on the streets against a possible wave of Indian immigrants.
    I don’t blame them
    Why don’t we do the same here?

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  17. With gun buyback period in final days, Police Minister rejects lobbyist’s suggestion it failed
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/content/tvnz/onenews/story/2019/12/17/police-minister-rejects-criticism-poor-communication-leading-fir.html?auto=6116240419001

    However, according to gun lobby group the Council Of Licenced Firearms Owners (COLFOs), which has consistently been critical of the Government’s approach to the issue, there’ll be tens of thousands of now-illegal guns still in circulation in this country after the deadline has been and gone.

    COLFO’s Nicole McKee says the buyback has been plagued by last-minute changes.

    “You’ve got a really low turnout rate because a lot of people just don’t understand this is not just about semi-automatic firearms,” she told Breakfast this morning.

    “This 28 per cent hand-in is a failure. It doesn’t have to be that way.

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    • Nash is full of shit. At the same time as saying the buyback couldn’t have been done any better, and it hasn’t been a failure, he’s begging people to bring their firearms in this week and threatening them with prison. He’s also saying that all these firearms have been designed to kill people which is utter rubbish. Sounds like the real figure is around 30% of now-illegal firearms returned. That means 70% that are no longer in secure storage but are stashed under beds or in closets or being sold illegally. Nash has made NZ a LOT LESS SAFE.

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  18. Sad to say, it’s got to go somewhere and it is likely a site close to a population who require it. If the COL are going to provide rehab and care for the addicted and mentally unwell as they promised then placement concern is going to become widespread with potential neighbours in other communities.

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    • So locals should get first shot, there will be homeless in shop doorways in Otara one assumes. Already close to schools etc.

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  19. Girl charged with murder after elderly Levin woman assaulted
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/12/girl-charged-with-murder-after-elderly-levin-woman-assaulted.html

    “All three girls will appear in the Palmerston North Youth Court on Tuesday. All have name suppression.

    The family of the 90-year-old woman told Newshub in November she was “smashed, bashed and left for dead” during the assault. She died in hospital on 27 November.”

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  20. Great piece about how the Guardian polls got the UK election all wrong with their biased Climate Change polls.

    “The Guardian declares: Climate crisis affects how majority will vote in UK election – poll
    Survey also finds two-thirds of people agree climate is biggest issue facing humankind

    Damian Carrington Environment editor, @dpcarrington

    A majority of people in the UK say the climate crisis will influence how they vote in the looming general election, according to an opinion poll, with younger voters feeling particularly strongly about the issue. ”

    http://joannenova.com.au/2019/12/guardian-prophets-six-weeks-ago-climate-crisis-affects-how-majority-will-vote-in-uk-election-poll/#comments

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  21. We have a similar thing here in Tauranga. Wanting to build a probation centre with 300 guys, near a primary school.

    They probably belong in Industrial areas.

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    • Dig its currently closer to Greerton school than where it was proposed. for the new one.
      The current one is just around the corner from our work and cuases no trouble at all.

      too many fucking broken arsed Nimby’sin this town. The proposed place was a good place for them.
      In a commercial area, on the transport routes and easy to access.
      But no the bleeding smoke sellers didn’t like the progeny of their ilk being close by.

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  22. I have posted this on another thread but worth repeating on Have Your Say.

    I have just emailed the Solicitor General to consider appeal the non-sentence of the Labour Youth Camp sexual predator. I have mentioned Judge Collins family conection with the Labour Party. I will unlikely get a response before the new year.

    I hope others also contact the SG

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  23. Has Tarrant been in court yet?
    I don’t watch TV or read papers at all now so I may have missed his appearance.

    It’s been *months* now so if he hasn’t been in court yet I don’t know why that would be.

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  24. Who would have thunk, Huh?
    Could we see this coming?

    https://www.rt.com/news/476001-sweden-gang-violence-bombings/

    …A special task force introduced in Malmo, Sweden to tackle rising gang violence will be expanded into other cities, the police chief has said, warning that gang members are becoming more ruthlessly violent.

    Sweden is suffering a jump in gang-related shootings and bombings; bomb attacks reached a new high in 2019 with over 180 incidents to date. An explosion in Linkoping, southern Sweden injured 20 people in June, while almost 30 blasts have been recorded in Malmo alone this year. …

    A Govt’s job is to keep its citizens safe.
    For the massive taxes paid by Swedes this is a massive, unforgivable, yet foreseeable FAIL

    Sending in the troops in your own country is tinkering with the symptom and not addressing the cause.

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    • If only they and we could figure out what is causing this increase in violence. I’m going to stick my neck out here and say that I think it is probably to do with carbon dioxide and climate change.

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  25. Finish Prime Minister is a Sales Girl

    Estonia has apologised to Finland after Estonia’s interior minister mocked Finland’s new prime minister – the world’s youngest-serving government leader – as “a sales girl” and questioned her ability to run the Nordic country.

    Mart Helme, 70, Estonian interior minister and leader of the populist far-right party Ekre, on Sunday ridiculed Finnish Prime Minister Sanna Marin, 34, and her government, in which four out of five coalition leaders are women under 35.

    “Now we see how one sales girl has become a prime minister and how some other street activists and non-educated people have also joined the cabinet,” Helme said on his party’s radio talk show.

    At least she had to earn her money as a sales girl, our pm only took orders for fish and chips

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  26. Did you know?
    The United States Secret Service code-name Hillary chose, as Secretary of State, was ‘Alice.’
    The code-name Trump uses is ‘Mogul.’
    The code-name Obama used was ‘Renegade’.
    Renegade: noun.
    1. A person who deserts and betrays an organisation, country, or set of principles.
    Synonyms: traitor, defector, deserter, turncoat, betrayer.
    Adjective: renegade
    1. Having treacherously changed allegiance.

    If you haven’t worked it out yet, it’s not about Trumps “corruption”, it’s about making sure you don’t find out about theirs.

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    • Bloody hell, you’ve found me out! Just a minute while I go and ask Bill if I should change my online name 🙂

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  27. Ed; At least JK knew which way was up.

    True that. He has just sold up and now is flyinng up from AirNZ.
    Wonder if he is going to quit ANZ as well.

    No wonder I wasn’t a fan.
    Wonder if he will take Helen with him.

    He can give us back his Sir thanks.

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    • No way. It’s his & he deserves it.

      Single handedly, for eight glorious years, he kept the 9th floor of the Beehive free from the ministrations of Clark, English & Ardern.

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      • Key never had to worry about perverts and sexual activities like this current administration.
        MPs got the boot for a lot less !~

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  28. I not sure Clark Gayford wants to marry Jacinda even though he proposed other last time they were at Mahia, as Jacinda made her usual fuss about it today while on Government business at Mahia today when visiting tuia -250.
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/jacinda-ardern-shares-story-clarke-gayfords-proposal-in-m-hia-while-visiting-tuia-250
    It’s all about attention for Jacinda and how she can harvest votes through her personal life not about the poor performance that is associated with being Prime Minister.

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  29. What do a gay couple do after they have enjoyed a very spicy & hot romantic Indian takeaway?

    Probably just cuddle.

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      • ……”What is a tea rower anyway?”…..

        It’s an absolute load of bollocks. From Wikipedia:

        …….”The original meaning of Aotearoa is not known. The word can be broken up as: ao = cloud, dawn, daytime or world, tea = white, clear or bright and roa = long. It can also be broken up as Aotea = the name of one of the migratory waka that travelled to New Zealand, and roa = long. The common translation is “the land of the long white cloud”.”…….

        BUT prior to the arrival of Europeans Maori had no name for the country as a whole. They were tribal & if asked “what are you?” their response would be Ngati Porou or similar.

        NZ was never a nation prior to the signing of the wretched Treaty. It was a disjointed collection of tribal primitives who fought & fucked over diminishing natural resources.

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    • People a/o their statements, which completely dismiss all and every fact concerning any disagreement; and deliberately try to obscure or underscore the facts with endless distortions and allegory.

      Thought as much !~

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  30. Frowny Face’s latest attempt to change New Zealand.

    Using ‘Aotearoa’ and ‘New Zealand’ together ‘as it should be’ – Jacinda Ardern

    Using ‘Aotearoa’ and ‘New Zealand’ together is “as it should be”, the Prime Minister says – despite a parliamentary committee earlier this year deciding not to make it official.

    “It’s common usage… Māori is an official language and ‘Aotearoa’ is commonly used alongside ‘New Zealand’, and I think that’s as it should be,” Jacinda Ardern, wearing a korowai, told reporters on Tuesday.

    The Prime Minister made the comments at Tuahuru Marae in Te Māhia as part of the official closing ceremony for Tuia 250, a national commemoration to recognise New Zealand’s heritage.
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/12/using-aotearoa-and-new-zealand-together-as-it-should-be-jacinda-ardern.html?fbclid=IwAR0d-S0xJz1-vZJXead5eBfOgtrThve6w2EvwoapH5QmM20RsjZLZLRcRsc

    She really is a piece of crap.

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    • He was best mates with Obama. Obama is going down when Trump completes draining the swamp.
      So perhaps JK is getting out.

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  31. The sex scandals at the BBC never stop. In fact they continue to grow more disturbing.

    A woman has come forward who claims she witnessed Basil Brush being fisted.

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  32. Climate Change Commission Committee members: Dr Rod Carr, Catherine Leining, Professor James Renwick, Professor Nicola Shadbolt, Dr Harry Clark and Lisa Tumahai pose with Minister for Climate Change James Shaw after the announcement.

    The Government have appointed the seven people who will shape climate change policy for the next half-decade.

    Climate Change minister James Shaw announced the full seven-person team of Climate Change Commissioners on Tuesday.

    The Commission was created by the Zero Carbon Act and will provide independent advice for governments on how to meet the emissions reductions targets put into law by the act, with regular “emissions budgets” set for governments to follow if they wish.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/118257732/powerful-climate-commissioners-appointed-including-harry-clark-and-james-renwick?cid=facebook.post&fbclid=IwAR0O1VPFwr4cgdnZ5pF-sYLngM9BUZDqu_5Ph6UM3xOaLnTzmeu01RuQqns

    Every political party in Parliament was consulted, according to a spokesman for Shaw.

    So the Nats again supporting the woke.

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    • That’s why I’m supporting the New Consevatives
      Their policy is to pull out of the Paris accord.
      They want people to be able to run their farms and businesses.

      David Seymour believes in Climate Change (I heard him say it on the radio)
      I don’t
      I believe in geological ice ages etc.

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  33. from Arderns speech

    “It’s common usage… Māori is an official language and ‘Aotearoa’ is commonly used alongside ‘New Zealand’, and I think that’s as it should be,” Jacinda Ardern, wearing a korowai, told reporters on Tuesday.

    Its only commonly used by sickly white journalists and organizations firstly by Breast Screen New Zealand and now the Salvation Army.

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  34. I look very much forward to debating whoever the lucky person is who stumbles across the finish line in the little watched Do Nothing Democrat Debates. My record is so good on the Economy and all else, including debating, that perhaps I would consider more than 3 debates. The problem is that the so-called Commission on Presidential Debates is stacked with Trump Haters & Never Trumpers. 3 years ago they were forced to publicly apologize for modulating my microphone in the first debate against Crooked Hillary. As President, the debates are up to me, and there are many options, including doing them directly & avoiding the nasty politics of this very biased Commission. I will make a decision at an appropriate time but in the meantime, the Commission on Presidential Debates is NOT authorized to speak for me (or R’s)!

    Donald J. Trump

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  35. More Bad news

    High Confidence is being mentioned on the radio.
    Not sure of the source.

    If everyone is feeling well, they probably vote for the encumbent government.

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  36. Waitangi Tribunal slams Crown handling of overlapping claims in Pare Hauraki Treaty of Waitangi settlement

    Oh who did that you ask?
    Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Minister Andrew Little.
    A collective redress deed for Pare Hauraki, a collective of 12 iwi, was signed at Parliament in August last year. It followed a series of public protests – including two to Parliament – led by Ngāi Te Rangi.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503343&objectid=12294421&fbclid=IwAR1Hd3YavXKRJ38PYXaJDItz6iWZuA9qjYb5-9LHaTjzp4CWhfbQ1xBW3mM

    Maori fighting Maori. So whats new?

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  37. This former Marlborough teacher that took a couple of students out repeatedly to her car at lunchtimes to have sex with them, i wonder if the boys will need trauma counciling and ongoing support for the indecent acts that were put upon them..?

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  38. Peters Revenge part 1

    Former prime minister Dame Jenny Shipley out of New Zealand China Council
    Former prime minister Dame Jenny Shipley has been shuffled out of the New Zealand China Council in a restructure of its board.

    The organisation has been working on a plan to downsize since a review and a reported meeting with Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters in late 2018, and questions have this year been raised about Shipley’s future on the board.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12294712

    Who will be next?

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    • She’s just parroting what the maori’s are grumbling about.
      Responsibility is not in their DNA.
      The scenic tour operators are responsible for this tragedy. They didn’t take heed of the GNS status warnings and chose to grab some coin instead.
      This event will be remembered in New Zealand’s history for exhibiting monumental incompetence by officials and greed.
      Sadly, the real heroes will be pushed to the back pages of history as will anything resembling good, decent, kiwi acts of bravery.
      I wish to pay my respects to those heroes and to the friends and family of those that passed. May they rest in peace.

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      • Total rubbish.
        People will always want to go these places and will not heed the danger.
        Its what people do.
        They climb everest and Mt Cook. Its the danger that eggs them on.

        Just like they drown of rocks at Piha or in the surf or driving down the road.

        It would be a disaster for freedom of movement if Jacinda and the many thousands of taxpayer apid wankers interferred with that freedom.

        No different to the right to freedom of speech.

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  39. Just suffered through Winston in QT. He is one incoherent, over-inflated, obnoxious prick. And Mallard is just as bad, enabling Peters’ bufoonery (second only to Jones) and personal attacks on the opposition.

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    • ” He is one incoherent, over-inflated, obnoxious prick”

      You’re so right there Saggy, one had to listen hard to what he was trying to say, only to grasp half of the incoherent nonsense !~

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  40. I’ve been reading a “Stuff” article on apartment values & costs. Worth a look-see & the comments from current residents more so:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/112287050/fears-rising-insurance-and-body-corp-costs-could-make-apartment-living-unsustainable?rm=a#comments

    It is pertinent because with Wellington’s expected growth, coupled with it’s lack of land outward is not an option so upward it has to be. Problem is that the insurance companies recognise the risk & are pricing accordingly. The expected bleating for the “gummint” to do something about it masks the cold hard reality of the situation.

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      • In my own opinion it’s a classic case where letting the market sort out the problem will solve most of the problem. There will come a price point where existing owners will take a haircut & future residents will buy at a huge discount which will reflect corporate costs esp. insurance.

        BUT the ideologues in government want people housed in multi level chook cages. They will intervene with our money to save their vision of society.

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  41. Enjoy this read.
    https://taurangahistorical.blogspot.com/2019/12/captain-jack-and-prince-of-denmark.html?spref=fb&fbclid=IwAR39jxjxT8cCSULUdg_SOsk6CvpzbsLBkhMoUqAaUzsFo1zThWIG45hMZ0M

    The invaders were then surprised by a combined amphibious force of 1000 Ngai Te Rangi, Ngati Haua and Te Whaktohea warriors led by their respective rangatira Hori Tupaea, Te Waharoa and Titoko. Following a fierce exchange of musket fire and hand to hand fighting the invaders were defeated and Te Haramiti was killed. The enemy slain were cooked and devoured, and their waka, cannon, muskets and heads seized as trophies by the victors. After returning to Tauranga, the victors sold the toi moko or cured tattooed heads of 14 northern chiefs to Captain Jack. [4]

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  42. Breaking news:

    Pakistan Court Sentences Ex-Military Ruler Pervez Musharraf to Death for Treason

    It is the first time in Pakistan’s 72-year history that a military ruler was tried with high treason for imposing emergency rule and suspending the constitution in 2007. Musharraf, as the army chief, toppled the civilian government of ex-premier Nawaz Sharif in 1999 and later became the country’s military president.

    https://time.com/5751195/pakistan-pervez-musharraf-sentenced-to-death/

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