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  1. Chief executives from more than 50 Forestry Wood Processing Companies have signed a letter calling on the Government to honour its Wood wood commitment its promised procurement policy for Government Buildings. Industry spokesman and Red Stag GroupChief Executive Marty Verry said the policy had the backing of NZ First and the Green Party a ditch was time for Labour to move on it.
    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/118969601/timber-processing-industry-calls-on-government-to-keep-election-promise-or-lose-support-for-2020
    It would be interesting to know is this why Winston Peter’s his Lawyers and family have set up the Business in the forestry industry than Shane Jones was thinking of giving taxpayers money to from the PGF.

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  2. Or did the Putararuru mill close last week and loose 60 jobs beacsue of continued wage rises making it impossible to sell our good overseas.

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    • But Kiwibuild should be taking everything it could have made, or is this government importing it’s timber?

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  3. A question for every one
    Do you use the same username on many sites, social media etc. (I tend to do that)

    Eg I made a post on a Youtube video (using my same name) about living in Thailand and was told to go back to YSB.

    Now does that mean I am famous or is YSB famous or was that the YSB member that seems to go back between here and Thailand.

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  4. Again we see how politically corrupt the media is in NZ in there silence over people being on Housing NZ’S waiting list for 18 years, now isn’t it funny how they always side with Labour over the nine years of neglect but say virtually nothing about Labour being the Government in nine of those 18 years.
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/state-house-applicant-has-been-wait-list-18-years-new-data-shows
    Now let’s see if the media pick this up and rightfully call Labour out on these revelations or like normal will just conveniently forget it .

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    • I like your dedication Happy, but the msm will happily ignore any criticism of liarbour especially in election year.

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      • Ed you have a way with words so I wonder whether you could do a piece on how the neady are earnng more money than middle income workers with there rise in wages, food grants and special needs Grant’s with doing very little in the way of work.

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    • Ms Wade said she did not want to go into emergency housing due to the conditions.

      Well, then you need to stay on the list until such a time as they find something that suits your needs.

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  5. Monty Python star Terry Jones dies aged 77
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2020/01/monty-python-star-terry-jones-dies-aged-77.html

    Terry Jones, one of the British Monty Python comedy team and director of religious satire Life of Brian, has died at the age of 77 after a long battle with dementia, his family said on Wednesday.

    Born in Wales in 1942, Jones was also an author, historian and poet. He had been diagnosed in 2015 with a rare form of dementia, FTD.

    He co-directed the team’s first film Monty Python and the Holy Grail with fellow Python Terry Gilliam, and directed the subsequent Life of Brian and The Meaning of Life.

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    • ……”Monty Python star Terry Jones dies aged 77″……

      Or as one fan has put it:

      ……..” No Terry Jones is not pinin’! HE’s passed on! This python is no more! He has ceased to be! ‘HE’s expired and gone to meet ‘is maker! HE’s a stiff! Bereft of life, ‘He rests in peace! If you hadn’t nailed ‘im to the chair ‘he’d be pushing up the daisies! ‘Is metabolic processes are now ‘istory! ‘HE’s off the twig! ‘E’s kicked the bucket, ‘e’s shuffled off ‘is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin’ choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-PYTHON!! “………

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      • “VOOM”?!? Mate, this python wouldn’t “voom” if you put four million volts through it! ‘E’s bleedin’ demised!

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  6. A New Zealand ventriloquist is on holiday in Australia.
    While strolling through a small town in South Australian he sees an old bloke sitting at the side of the road patting his dog. Behind him are a horse and a sheep.
    ‘G’day mate’, says the ventriloquist. ‘That’s a great-looking dog. Mind if I have a chat with him?’
    The Australian replies: ‘The dog doesn’t talk, ya stupid Kiwi twit.’
    The ventriloquist ignores him and says: ‘Hey dog, how’s it going?’
    The dog “replies”: ‘Doing all right.’
    The Australian is astonished.
    The ventriloquist continues: ‘Is this Aussie your owner?’
    ‘Yep’, the dog appears to say.
    ‘How does he treat you?”
    ‘Really well’, the dog seems to say. ‘He feeds me well and takes me for two walks a day.’
    The ventriloquist then says to the Australian: ‘Do you mind if I talk to your horse?’
    By now the Australian is utterly confused about what is going on, but he manages to reply: ‘HE certainly doesn’t talk!’
    Again ignoring this advice, the Kiwi says: ‘G’day horse, how’s it going?’
    ‘Fine, fine’, the horse appears to reply.
    ‘How does your owner treat you?’
    ‘Pretty good, thanks. He exercises me regularly, gives me a brush-down whenever I need one, and feeds me oats in winter when there isn’t much grass around.’
    By now the Australian is flabbergasted at what is happening.
    The ventriloquist says to him: ‘Do you mind if I talk to your sheep?’
    The Australian replies: ‘The sheep’s a bloody liar!’

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  7. Kiwis wanting to treat Ethiopian guides to holiday slam NZ’s visa policy as ‘racist’
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/kiwis-wanting-treat-ethiopian-guides-holiday-slam-nzs-visa-policy-racist?auto=6125423567001

    “The group are appalled and embarrassed that two Ethiopian tour guides they befriended on a recent holiday in Africa have been refused visitor visas to New Zealand because they weren’t deemed genuine visitors.

    They say their tour guide and driver, Abenezer Dereje and Abraham Mekonnen, brought Ethipoa to life for them, and in June this year they wanted to repay that kindness.”

    Getting them here on visitor visas they assumed would be pretty straight forward.
    However, after five months of work and just days after the men sent their passports to a processing centre in South Africa they both received emails saying their NZ visas were declined due to the application not considered to be genuine.”

    Oh dear, we didn’t get our own way so we run to the media yelling racism.

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    • I saw this one on the news last night and it looked a little bit odd to me, given the visitors are being sponsored as a gift, will be staying with their host family, etc.

      And yet, Immigration fell over their feet to grant a temporary visitor visa to the refugee friend of Golriz Ghahraman who was a surefire slot-in for overstaying without even blinking.

      Did the actions of Golriz Ghahraman impact on this decision? Or why is there such a disparity in treatment between the two cases?

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  8. Looks like Winston’s going to rain on Cindy’s pre Waitangi Day Ihumatao settlement parade. The Maori truck driver might have to bring his flag back.

    “‘Simply false’: Winston Peters says Ihumātao deal still a long way off”

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    • I had assumed Ardern was going to proudly announce the Government (Taxpayer) bailout of Ihumatao at Waitangi Day?

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      • Me too. Something to show she cares, when a hug just won’t cut it. She’ll be spitting sparks. Especially since we’ve all been prepped for the big reveal.

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  9. Why didn’t we see this coming???
    Number of workers at Pike River mine doubled to help speed re-entry process

    The agency’s confirmed it’s signalled to the Government the $36m allocation for the project won’t be enough. Source: 1 NEWS

    The agency has confirmed it’s signalled to the Government that the $36 million allocated for the project won’t be enough.

    At the moment, experienced miners are learning how to gather evidence for the criminal investigation into the explosion, painstaking forensic work in a dark and damp replica mine tunnel.

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/number-workers-pike-river-mine-doubled-help-speed-re-entry-process?auto=6125423477001

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    • Are they going to sort out which bones are which so they can prosecute the gang leader for ignoring warning signs and turning off alarms? Perhaps they are inspired by Oliver Cromwell, he was dug up, beheaded and his head placed on a spike. That will teach them, don’t mess with Angry Andy.

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  10. An Interesting Take/Insight into Electric Cars.

    This is for Engineers out there, surely there should be a rebuttal to this article. Say it isn’t true! As an engineer I love the electric vehicle technology. However, I have been troubled for a longtime by the fact that the electrical energy to keep the batteries charged has to come from the grid and that means more power generation and a huge increase in the distribution infrastructure. Whether generated from coal, gas, oil, wind or sun, installed generation capacity is limited. A friend sent me the following that says it very well. You should all take a look at this short article.

    INTERESTING – ONE OTHER QUESTION. IF ELECTRIC CARS DO NOT USE GASOLINE, THEY WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN PAYING A GASOLINE TAX ON EVERY GALLON THAT IS SOLD FOR AUTOMOBILES, WHICH WAS ENACTED SOME YEARS AGO TO HELP TO MAINTAIN OUR ROADS AND BRIDGES. THEY WILL USE THE ROADS, BUT WILL NOT PAY FOR THEIR MAINTENANCE!

    In case you were thinking of buying hybrid or an electric car:

    Ever since the advent of electric cars, the REAL cost per mile of those things has never been discussed. All you ever heard was the mpg in terms of gasoline, with nary a mention of the cost of electricity to run it . This is the first article I’ve ever seen and tells the story pretty much as I expected it to

    Electricity has to be one of the least efficient ways to power things yet they’re being shoved down our throats. Glad somebody finally put engineering and math to paper.

    At a neighborhood BBQ I was talking to a neighbor, a BC Hydro executive. I asked him how that renewable thing was doing. He laughed, then got serious. If you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, he pointed out, you had to face certain realities.

    For example, a home charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp service. The average house is equipped with 100 amp service. On our small street (approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three houses with a single Tesla, each. For even half the homes to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly over-loaded.

    This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles. Our residential infrastructure cannot bear the load. So as our genius elected officials promote this nonsense, not only are we being urged to buy these things and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with expensive, new windmills and solar cells, but we will also have to renovate our entire delivery system! This latter “investment” will not be revealed until we’re so far down this dead end road that it will be presented with an ‘OOPS…!’ and a shrug.

    If you want to argue with a green person over cars that are eco-friendly, just read the following. Note: If you ARE a green person, read it anyway. It’s enlightening.

    Eric test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors and he writes, “For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.” Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9-gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles.

    It will take you 4.5 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.

    According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned, so I looked up what I pay for electricity. I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile.

    The gasoline powered car costs about $20,000 while the Volt costs $46,000-plus. So the American Government wants loyal Americans not to do the math, but simply pay three times as much for a car, that costs more than seven times as much to run, and takes three times longer to drive across the country.

    emailed this so sorry no link.

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      • To be fair, the batteries are largely recyclable and where the component parts are not they can be used for the likes of Power walls, etc. It’s not a perfect solution and it doesn’t address the cost component, but it sure is better than dumping them in landfill or equivalent.

        We had a couple of green friends visit us recently. They’re very proud of their new model, Korean EV. It’s a nice little car actually, reasonable build quality and the price isn’t in the realms of Tesla. They’re very happy with their costs thus far, they worked it out over a 10 year period including a battery replacement. In terms of range, the went Auckland to Wellington with one stop for lunch and recharging. To call them effusively happy with it would be an understatement, despite freeloading on the “free” chargers.

        They certainly haven’t considered the costs listed above though, only their direct, current costs over the same time period. If anybody find a link to the email source, I’d love to send it on to them.

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        • Yes the real cost of a car is its life time costs – Interest on capital or debt to buy, depreciation, servicing, insurance, wofs & Govt charges ,fuel & any disposal costs, divide by Kms and thats the cost per Km. Even if battery’s improve their energy density, charging stations increase the infrastructure for charging will add to current generation/transmission costs. Perhaps a Hybrid is the way to go especially for those who majority travel is less than the Hybrid battery range.

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          • But why do the taxpayers need to subsides the RUC and the consumers the electricity to charge their bloody cars!

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    • Some back more back ground information for you Viking

      https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chevy-revolt/
      The “report” link there goes to an interesting video, 6 min 6 secs to a panel on FOX pointing out government subsidies.

      Though it is explained and fudged about, still electricity must be produced from some where, and unless it is worked out, then it would seem that Peter is robbing Paul, in a number of ways, like Paul will need more efficient heating, (heat pumps then double glazed windows, etc..) lights, (led) etc, but will all that be enough for that ration of electricity allowed.

      Raises many more questions than answers.
      At the end of the day, we look for efficiencies, and the price we pay, and will proceed down the track where we figure the most benefit is.
      The problem is the man from the government seems not to have consider accountability and responsibility.

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  11. Te Ao Māori
    22 Jan 2020
    ‘Kiingi Tuuheitia’s work is done’ – flag comes down at Ihumātao
    12:51 pm on 22 January 2020

    The Kiingitanga flag at Ihumātao has come down and Kiingitanga representatives say a positive resolution is expected ahead of Waitangi Day.

    Kiingi Tūheitia arrived at Ihumātao this morning after a fence was removed by Fletcher Building yesterday sparking talks that a settlement was close.

    Details of a resolution are yet to be confirmed but in a statement this morning, representatives of Kiingi Tūheitia said the King’s work is largely concluded with the expectation of a positive resolution ahead of Waitangi Day.

    “There’s still some work to do, but Kiingitanga is satisfied that now is the time to retrieve the flag from Ihumaatao.”
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/407855/kiingi-tuuheitia-s-work-is-done-flag-comes-down-at-ihumatao

    So which Maori is right? Winston or the truck driver?

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  12. ‘Can’t help but smile’ – protest leader Pania Newton happy with progress made at Ihumātao

    That’s how the members of SOUL describe feeling following the Māori King’s decision to lower his flag on Ihumātao today, and the looming possibility of a resolution for the disputed whenua arriving by Waitangi Day.

    Whats the bet he has shit on them?

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/cant-help-but-smile-protest-leader-pania-newton-happy-progress-made-ihum-tao?fbclid=IwAR11uQ3Xp3twKw3c685h908ROGGG_Weg1r-eFyBP3HmntGXnWp4p_TAwQAU

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  13. Some shelia has been at Imahotoo for 3 long years!
    Have to ask, what benefit is she on?
    Stupid bloody media, they are thick.
    Do they believe everything they are told!
    You are allowed to ask questions you know!

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    • Yes and what about the rest of them that have been there.
      Why has there been no coverage of the protest.
      Surely the msm could take a trip out there with a mobile phone camera and take a video.

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    • If Pania has been on a benefit whilst holidaying at Ihumātao then she wasn’t available for work so any benefit that requires being available is not due and repayable. Are you listening WINZ?

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  14. Socialist Cindy is at it again, telling the gullible she is all about facts. 🤥 🤥 🤥 🤥 🤥

    Jacinda Ardern calls for ‘factual’ 2020 election campaign at Labour Party caucus retreat
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/01/jacinda-ardern-calls-for-factual-2020-election-campaign-at-labour-party-caucus-retreat.html

    Jacinda Ardern has used her first speech of the year to call for a “factual” election campaign and it’s understood the Labour Party is going to sign up to a social media transparency tool to prove it.

    “New Zealanders deserve a factual campaign, one that is free from misinformation, where people can make honest reflections for themselves about what they want for the future of New Zealand.”

    The Prime Minister delivered remarks about running a “positive”and “factual” campaign at the party’s caucus retreat in Martinborough Thursday morning in her first official appearance since the summer break.

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      • “where people can make honest reflections for themselves about what they want for the future of New Zealand.”

        I’ve already made my reflection and it does not include her!

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    • Newshub understands the Labour Party will sign up to Facebook’s transparency tool, known as the Facebook Ad Library Report, that shows voters where campaigning money is being spent on Facebook ads.

      How does knowing which advertisements they spend money on make them “factual”? Jacinda will still lie worse than a wooden puppet. Knowing that she paid for those advertisements won’t change a thing.

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    • I have been through election campaigns now for 50 years, so maybe 16 of them. Keeping things factual has never been a strong point in my observation as a voter. I doubt the situation will suddenly alter.

      I am troubled at the reference to others. Is this a suggestion from our PM that Australia, UK, and USA are lacking in integrity around elections or have lesser integrity than us. I suggest that was a thoughtless reference to other countries and as such reduces the value of statement somewhat.

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    • What about the facts regarding inter generational welfare? Do Labour and the Greens really hate the constituency that much that they would seek to lock in so many to the slavery of welfare? More increases of those on the benefit and what is Sepuloni’s response? Increase their entitlements. Labour; the truth is they really hate you.

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    • Well that declaration by our PTPM has provided Nation/Act with enough ammunition for a war – can’t wait to see the Bombs dropping by David Seymour, unsure that Simon will drop any.

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  15. I noticed that the is pronouncing “poisidive” wrongly she is using a “t” not a “d”

    Maybe my email camping against her lazy diction has got to her minders.

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    • Remember when TV1 dragged up an ‘expert’ from somewhere to tell us that there was nothing wrong with Ardern’s pronunciation?
      Apparently she is simply using ‘new variations’ on old English words….(Yep they actually freaking said that!)
      I was screaming and chucking things at the TV! Dear Leader can seemingly do NO wrong….

      We live in North Korea folks…

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  16. Well I guess that will be like the Trump truth line. Last time I noticed they accused him of telling 16000 lies.
    Work out how many a day that is for 2 years. 22 a day! Take some doing and even cindy with her lies wont match that.

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  17. Number of job-seekers on benefits increases 10 per cent over the last year
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/number-job-seekers-benefits-increases-10-per-cent-over-last-year

    Over 13,000 more people are on a benefit seeking work than a year ago.

    Latest benefit figures show that in December 2019, 147,464 people were receiving the Jobseeker Support benefit. That compares to just over 134,000 the year before – a 10 percent increase.

    In total there are over 314,000 New Zealanders on a benefit of some sort. That’s a five percent increase on the year before. The number of people on all benefits has increased.

    These figures come amid a low unemployment rate of 4.2 per cent.

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    • Labour wants approximately 4,693,000 beholden to the State as some form of beneficiary. I’m no longer surprised when we hear how every time a Labour government is in power, they increase state dependency.

      There’s only one way to change that, pick a party that will reduce the number of beneficiaries and put measures in place to stop them from increasing. See more here, from a party that has actual, achievable policies as opposed to the waffling from the religious conservatives.

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      • “Christ is making a comeback in European countries. Finally Christians are remembering their culture and heritage and traditions and nationalism.”

        Pascal I do wish that you (and several others on here) would not keep banging on about Christian Conservatives in a derogatory way.
        You may soon need their ideology to turn back hordes of refugees and immigrants
        Like in Hungary and Europe.

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        • And I wish you’d stop with the personal attacks on David Seymour and the lies about ACT; but hey – we don’t get what we wish for. New Zealand hasn’t been a secular country for what – somewhere between 50 and 70 years now. The New Conservatives should just give up – they’re not going to get the church numbers up.

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      • Thanks for the Link Pascal – I read it and could find little to argue against albeit the devil will b e in the detail.

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    • Wow, I’ll have to check that out.
      That’s because Labour took off all the sanctions, and wants to help beneficiaries get what they are entitled to.
      Why work when there are thousands of immigrants willing to get up each day.
      or because they don’t want to do that job, or because the hourly rate is not $25.00

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    • I’ve been struggling with these figures for a while, and I still haven’t worked it out. There are a lot more people on benefits, but unemployment is down. Something’s being fudged, but what?

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      • They call part time workers employed, even if the taxpayer is topping up their income.
        Fudging statistics is a tried and tested deceiver.
        It’s a trick they use when lying doesn’t fool anyone, anymore..

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  18. Paul Goldsmith says Shane Jones is ‘able to get away with anything’ amid conflict of interest claims

    National’s Paul Goldsmith is calling out NZ First Shane Jones over purported links to a forestry company’s application for $15 million from the Provincial Growth Fund.
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/paul-goldsmith-says-shane-jones-able-get-away-anything-amid-conflict-interest-claims?auto=6125636235001

    “Shane lives on, he seems to be able to get away with anything and we don’t actually think that that’s the way to conduct such an important and very substantial fund,” said Mr Goldsmith.

    “I mean Clare Curran got sacked for less. There are basic standards that should be implied when you’re dealing with large sums of money.”

    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern removed Ms Curran from Cabinet and accepted her offer to resign from the Government Digital Services portfolio and Open Government responsibilities in August 2018 after failing to disclose a meeting with tech entrepreneur Derek Handley about the vacant Chief Technology Officer role.

    Mr Goldsmith said there were specific questions asked in Parliament about Mr Jones knowledge of the company

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      • When look at the ones that followed, she was a picture of pure driven snow!
        Didn’t beat up her staff,
        Didn’t fail on the election plank,
        Didn’t coverup the leaders drug problem,
        Had nothing to do with the CC massacre!

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    • Took a bloody lot for custard Clare to get the short shift too!
      Must have hurt the Comrade Cindy to shaft her mate, it took long enough!
      How comeliarbour and the greens scream so much in oppersition, but the same rules don’t apply now?

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  19. King Big Ears in waitng can’t bloody help himself, he as to go and support the junior witch greta, over climate change!

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  20. “Sonny Bill Williams to refuse to wear Super League’s Betfred logo due to religious beliefs”

    When are we going to see the last of this show pony. Man he grinds my gears.

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  21. Understanding media filth.
    A Paper, first draft, 1200 words.

    Why do I call them filth?
    Well, that is what they are.

    We expect politicians to lie and bend or conveniently re-present the ‘truth’
    That is the game.
    However media filth get on my goat for being sanctimonious, lying pricks.
    Day in, day out.
    They are now simply like Instagram ‘influencers’ pushing people in a certain direction – often as part of a (paid) contract to send people to their sponsor’s product.
    (NZ Govt stops the TVNZ dividend; pays directly for journo-liars in the regions; subsidises failing TV3 by $15+ million year through NZ on Air)

    Media filth will always lie.
    Three methods of lying (not limited to this) .
    -Outright misrepresentation/lies
    -Advocacy like in a debate- you only present YOUR side of the story without entering or acknowledging there is another point of view. It is (in part) factually correct; just not balanced .
    -Leaving out salient facts that turn the story away from the centre of truth eg the sob stories about people living in taxpayer funded motels, poor me!

    About the only one I bother with now is a glance at AU Nine News owed Stuff.
    An easy glance on the laptop or phone.
    I don’t listen to radio and have not bothered with TV ‘news’ since the 1970s.
    TV news is further from the truth that the Grimm Bros Fairytales.
    At least the TV news has a Hansel and Gretel with bobbing heads reading out the misrepresentation on their 6pm slot.

    Media from early in the 21st century has essentially been propaganda.
    It is not there to inform.
    It is there to persuade, to sell you, to create division such as setting youth off against ‘pale, stale, males’.
    Those extinction rebellion people smashing things up while the cops stand by – well they just want a better planet. True!
    It is pure propaganda.

    The origins of propaganda are:-
    …In 1622, Pope Gregory XV established the Congregatio de Propaganda Fide (Congregation for Propagating the Faith) for the purpose of promoting the faith in non-Catholic countries. The group’s name was often informally shortened to “propaganda,” and the name stuck….
    You can thank the Catholic church for that name.

    The method was in use before that. It simply got a name at that point.

    People accept that propaganda is what happens in war and Governments will seek out the media to tell the angle they want heard during a time of war .
    It was not just the Germans that used propaganda in the 1910s and 1940s.
    The Allies did as well. eg they would delay or under-report sinking of ships or battlefield losses so as to not lower morale.

    What the average punter today is generally too lazy to bother to understand is that there is a war being fought today..
    ..on the middle class and the goal is middle class replacement into first world countries/developed nations to replace the existing ‘privileged’ middle class.
    That is YOU, YSB readers.
    Yes, you!

    UK is sort of aware of this with their Brexit vote.
    Some other European country’s citizens are waking up to this but the local arm of the UN complex – the European Union HQ in Brussels -is stamping down pretty hard on rebellion.
    The muscles from Brussels takes another form.

    The Media is in full swing here as the mouthpiece of the masters to :-
    -Under report the rebellion in France
    -Take hits at pockets of resistance such as Hungary or right of centre Italian or Dutch political push back.

    New Zealanders and Canadians are by and large left in the dark while there is some fair pushback in Australia. Not enough to stem the tide.
    The Qatar Govt run al Jazeera filth of course did a hit on One Nation in last year’s election campaign as One Nation pushes back on this forced replacement.
    Political waifs from places like Tauranga swallow this hook, line and sinker.
    The propaganda works… which is why it is still used as an effective method.

    The media locally will tell you (because that is what they are told to say) that we need this replacement as we are not having enough kids. >It is cultural enrichment (sic)
    That is crap and propaganda.
    Japan is the third largest economy in the world and they are not pursuing replacement people.
    This of course gets them bad press.
    South Korea is similar but they must appease the gods as they don’t get the bad press.

    The current Ardern run (?) Govt is right onto this.
    -Maori privilege (Ihumatao)
    -Propping up the low end – no questioning a waster’s need to claim benefits; soft on criminals, getting criminals out of jail, being nice to gangs, benes all round.

    What is done for the middle class? S.F.A. you pack of privileged bastards.
    You caused the ‘problems’ today.
    St. Greta hath spoken.
    If you don’t agree with climate change you are a ‘non person’
    You think that is extreme? It is exactly what the crooked ‘Stuff’ propaganda sheet has done.
    Disagree with climate change and we ‘non person’ your arse.

    If you have bad thoughts our Stasi will come and take you out.
    No hui for Dieuwe. Wrong colour boy!
    We are not consulting with you middle class lot. We TELL you what to do.
    We have Notional on our side and those little bitches do what we say.
    We have mobile Stasi force in black SUVs ready to take you out.
    We have armed police – see that was sooo easy to do- and will take away your guns and leave you with air rifles.

    Media is the tool by which this is accomplished.
    We get them to repeat it over and over and most people will comply.
    First they came for …..

    Media today is about sending you in a particular direction.
    It is not there to inform.
    Quite the opposite.
    It constantly seeds the mind of those that take it in with repeated rhetoric.
    The fact that this is incorrect rhetoric :-
    -climate change, climate refugees,
    -guns kill a fraction of the number of people that cars do but guns are bad;
    -hold up, cars are bad too –if they are petrol driven;
    -electric cars will save the planet people, bring world peace, and there will be spring flowers all year round [until they prove to be substandard for transportation and by then petrol car cars will have been removed and people can only travel greater than a cycle ride by public transportation -over which the Govt has complete control because, well they just do.]
    – those who don’t agree with the rabid left are ‘far right’; they are dinosaurs; non personed!

    Have a look at this analysis:-
    …’In “Mein Kampf,” Hitler argued that effective propaganda appeals “to the feelings of the public rather than to their reasoning ability”; relies on “stereotyped formulas,” repeated over and over again, to drum ideas into the minds of the masses; and uses simple “love or hate, right or wrong” formulations to assail the enemy while making “intentionally biased and one-sided” arguments.’…

    It is about feelz; not truth; not logic.
    Sound familiar?
    Look at the repetition of these themes:-
    Climate change; we must accept immigrants; petrol cars and oil exploration bad; white people are bad while non whites are better but have been oppressed (by the less than one billion whites on the planet)

    The first casualty of war is truth.
    The media filth is your enemy in this war.
    They channel the propaganda used in this war.
    Thanks for reading.
    Constructive commentary welcome.

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    • So what is the answer?
      My grandaughter is pretty right wing.
      She wants to become a journalist!
      I told her that journalist jobs are disappearing.
      But we need someone to collect the news, type it, read it and ask questions.
      I like Sky News in Australia. they have some good clisp on Youube
      Who is going to report local news council business etc?
      If we want quality unbiased jourunalists then we have to pay for them!

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      • What is the answer?

        If every journalist in NZ disappeared overnight there would be 90% less lies in circulation.
        Think about that.
        I call it a good start.

        I have called you a political waif because that is what you are.
        Your comment :-
        ‘we need someone to collect the news, type it, read it and ask questions’
        underscores this.

        Churnalist filth don’t collect news; they regurgitate the crap fed to them.
        Who the hell types it?
        They copy and paste at best. They look up stuff on the internet without leaving their desk. Then put a spin on it. Who needs that. I don’t.
        There is voice to text translation if they have sore fingers from too much self abuse.

        When White Island erupted last month the NZ ‘media filth’ were reporting things at least 30 hours behind overseas media. The UK and AU press were well ahead.
        That further emphasises that there is no need to keep trash locally. It just gives off a bad smell!

        Who asks questions? One lefty tossing softballs to another lefty is not ‘asking questions’
        If real questioning is about to start let me know.
        I’ll let off the sirens on the East Coast.

        Most things are notified by press releases and council stuff is covered on blogs and on fakebook.

        Tell your granddaughter if she becomes a churnalist I will lump her in with ‘filth’
        No fear; no favour. Equal opportunity. 🙂
        They don’t break ranks from the lies and misdirection.
        When they stop telling lies and start reporting truth…I’ll stop pissing in their Bovril! (credit to Billy Connolly)

        You will note I said above NZ and Canada are pretty much out the back door for any truth in ‘churnalism’
        Australia has some pockets left with Alan Jones/Credlin/Sky News.
        It is thin.
        The AU Govt Channel ABC is a dead loss.

        You won’t get -your quote- ‘quality unbiased jourunalists’ by paying for them.
        They have been bought and paid for already.
        George $oro$ has more money than you can come up with.

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          • Will being right wing gain her employment?
            The msm believe the public need educating and believe it is their job as journalists to bring us the lesson. Some of us aren’t buying what they are selling.

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    • Thanks howitis as those points and issues are well summed up. as experienced and talked about by Tommy Robinson.

      Tommy Robinson – Acceptance Speech For Sappho Award [hosted by the Free Speech Society]
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=237&v=FSHQ7jsrR-k&feature=emb_logo
      1 hour 17 minutes 36 secs.

      When you can, take the time to watch.
      Allow for a bit more time, as you mull over some parts, or even repeat segments.

      This shows the many different levels of journalism, editors, media, politicians, globalists, corporations, the brainwashing, the smearing, and how things are on many things.

      This interview was done after the “acceptance speech” in Denmark and actually proves TR.s point to the hostile interviewer.
      Tommy Robinson on Deadline, Danish TV. 19th January 2020
      https://3speak.online/watch?v=rairfoundation/sploqcko
      14 mins 27 seconds.

      Point by point, issue by issue TR shows what the media is prepared to do.

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      • Thanks S1.
        I’ll have a look.
        I drew from multiple sources plus retained knowledge.

        I note that TR has been largely deplatformed.
        I was surprised the other day when i went o play some songs on Youtube where I had up ticked – mainly some singles from the late 1960s where I don’t have the record- that the uptick had been removed – under my login.
        If they do that for pop songs from 50 years ago you can understand what the likes of Mark Dice and PJW have been saying about ‘approval removal’

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  22. What Labour’s commitment to Facebook’s ad transparency rules means for voters
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/01/what-labour-s-commitment-to-facebook-s-ad-transparency-rules-means-for-voters.html

    The rules mean voters will see:

    Who the ad was funded by
    How many people the ad might reach
    How much the ad cost
    Who the target audience of the ad is
    Demographic data about the target audience such as age and sex
    What regions the ad is being shown in
    Where the ad will be run, such as Facebook and Instagram

    “Facebook has introduced authorisation and transparency measures to make elections overseas fairer and the Labour Party will voluntarily adopt these measures here,” Ardern said.

    “It means voters can see who is behind paid advertising online, how much they are spending and who they are targeting. The measures help avoid anonymous fake news style ads.”

    Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson welcomed Labour’s news, saying: “Increasingly we’ve seen overseas that misinformation and lies are spread online to achieve election wins.”

    Facebook’s ad transparency tool, known as the Facebook Ad Library Report, is compulsory in the United States, United Kingdom, Canada and the European Union, amongst others, but not in New Zealand.

    🤢🤢🤢

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    • “Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson welcomed Labour’s news, saying: “Increasingly we’ve seen overseas that misinformation and lies are spread online to achieve election wins.” “

      Bahaha
      This from a party co-leader who sells us man-made climate change because the science is settled.

      And Ardern is voluntarily adopting transparency measures.
      Is it Stand-Up Thursday? Cos I’m PMSL.

      On a day that started with hearing Angry Little declare that Pike River didn’t have an open cheque book.

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      • How transparent are Captains Calls? Or asking us to “read between the lines” regarding criminals who may be associated to Labour?

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    • A key issue for me is that the various parties seeking election are paying their own way. This taxpayer does not wish to support any party from taxation. That includes the mindless TV debates. Let them raise the funds to promote their material; I do not wish to subsidise or cover their election costs as a taxpayer.

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      • Pete, your comment “I do not wish to subsidise or cover their election costs as a taxpayer” deserves to be reinforced so you get lots more upticks. 👍
        ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️ ☑️

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    • Doesn’t matter how much they spend, which demographics they target, what regions it shows in, etc. when the actual, damn content of the ad is a lie!

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  23. Hmm, amazing what gets revealed. Will this CHANGE OUR IDEA’S ABOUT mAORI BEING THE FIRST RENT SEEKERS ON OUR LAND?
    iNTERESTING POSSIBILITIES.

    Australia’s wildfires, which have been raging since September, have burnt the continent to ashes and revealed extensive water channels built by the indigenous Australians in the process.

    The discovered channels are an extension of the Budj Bim Landscape, which was added to the UNESCO World Heritage List last year. These channels were set up by the Gunditjmara people for harvesting eels. They are made up of a complicated series of stone-lined channels and pools.

    The owners who inspected the site after a bushfire which was sparked in December and only brought under control last week. Extra sites were spotted that were previously hidden under vegetation. These sites are believed to be part of the aquaculture system.

    https://interestingengineering.com/australian-bushfires-unveil-ancient-aquatic-system-older-than-the-pyramids?fbclid=IwAR35x7J8iamBHIbPBcqS74T7YHJkDzaobwX9zNufLm-HC7h0wAYRnkvQ-Ac&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=Jan22&utm_medium=Article&utm_source=Facebook

    The landscape holds enormous importance since it features evidence of stone dwellings. Some parts of it have been dated back to 6,600 years, which means that they are older than Egypt’s pyramids.

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  24. However bad things are in your neck of the woods spare a thought for we Wairarapairians. Along with natural disasters such as spendthrift local government, low rainfall & hot Norwesterlies; Martinborough is currently host to the Labour Party caucus retreat.

    Having to tolerate such riff-raff is the price paid for diversifying, away from pastoral farming & grape growing, into running a conference centre. 🙂

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    • “away from pastoral farming & grape growing, into running a conference centre.”

      Just another wank fest on hugz and feelz patting each other on the back, look how good we are..?
      Gawd give me fucking strength someone !~

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    • Being an old bugger sometimes I can recall what used to be deamed emergency housing. Lower Hutt had its share as did Mirimar and various othe place around the country.

      all they need to do is call up a factory house builder or three and say we want 30 houses and jobs almost done.

      But of course consultation, the RMA, the whingers et al stop that.
      In a blast from the past here is what you got way back then. And people were grateful to have a roof over thier heads.
      Manor prk for rail families, Trentham, Mirimar, and at the bottm of Haywards hill. Kitchens were always great. Had many an early breakfast in those places whilst working at 5 am with my Dad delivering the Bread.

      https://thumbnailer.digitalnz.org/?resize=664%3E&src=http%3A%2F%2Fndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz%2FNLNZStreamGate%2Fget%3Fdps_pid%3DIE386065

      The staff have found a 1960’s map of Rotorua which shows two Transit Camps: One on the corner of Ranolf and Malfroy Roads, the other at the junction of Amohau, Fenton and [Te] Wairoa Roads.

      Don Stafford writes that “in July 1945 a proposal by the Borough Council would utilise former air force huts….. to convert them to ‘transit housing’ for families waiting for state rental units.” The new century in Rotorua by D M Stafford pp. 248, 271.

      It was reported in the Daily Post of 6 April 1946 that “Following urgent representations made to him by the RSA the Mayor, Mr P A Kusabs, has agreed to the immediate completion of one of the huts in the proposed transit camp. Amohau Street.”…” The rough work necessary to complete the unit will be carried out by the State Housing Department, and the remainder by an RSA working bee.”

      The Transit Camps were gone by 1957.

      http://rotorua.kete.net.nz/site/topics/show/194-rotorua-transit-camps?private=false

      What to do when you want stuff done.

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      • There were more in the old Trentham Army Camp too V2.

        But at the time they were flat out building state houses everywhere. There was some hope for the families that they would get a state unit or they could capitalise the Family Benefit & build their own.

        The Wairarapa Times Age told us the other day about how the wonderful Red Cross were working to settle refugees in Masterton. The same Masterton that hasn’t a fucking hope of housing the people already here. There’s nothing to rent & everything under construction is a Mc Mansion.

        The adage of “charity begins at home” seems to have been missed by the do-gooders & our employees in Molesworth St.

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  25. Four arrested after thousands of cannabis plants seized in Northland

    Four people have been arrested and more than 4000 cannabis plants were seized in a major police drug operation in Northland.

    Last Thursday, more than 20 police, executed a search warrant at a property on Oturei Settlement Rd, near Aratapu.

    Five glass houses filled with cannabis plants, including one which was more than 60 metres wide was located at the property by police.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/118997743/four-arrested-after-thousands-of-cannabis-plants-seized-in-northland?%3Fcid=facebook.post&cid=facebook.post&fbclid=IwAR3etEV2uys5rKTPgN4OggCwzoALVgP7DGPGEROluF-TqopNjJbtWqE4RyI

    So when we can’t get a policeman to deal with the meth problem they have time to stop the softer drugs. Some people never learn.
    When I was in Mahia the other day they had set up a big tent in front of the police station indicating that they were about to fly choppers in a recovery operation.
    Waste of time and money although they will puff out their chests and tell us what good guys they are (not).

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    • Especially in referendum year, does that mean the police in general are against the liberalisation of cannabis laws?

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      • They’ll be against liberalisation but it won’t be the reason most God-fearing conservatives think it to be. Followers of this forum will probably recall the “drunk & disorderly” & “insufficient visible means of support” statutes they used to use as street sweepers.

        If this year’s referendum is successful they’ll be scrambling for another bullshit public nuisance law.

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          • Yep. Most alkies in the day would carry a ten bob note in their shoe or sewn into their clothing. It was enough to ward off charges of “insufficient means of support”. If they were charged with “drunk & disorderly” they’d spend the night in the drunk tank & the next day they would be given police bail of ten shillings. The law & order fans insisted it was for their own good as street hoods used to give the old buggers hidings just for kicks if they dossed down on the footpath.

            When the case was called in Court later in the week the Magistrate would fine them 2/6d with 7/6d court costs. It wasn’t so much crime & punishment as a drunk tax.

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    • The main reason they are still conducting these searches is because it is a fun few days out in a helicopter.

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  26. Coronavirus
    Patent number: 10130701
    Abstract: The present invention provides a live, attenuated coronavirus comprising a variant replicase gene encoding polyproteins comprising a mutation in one or more of non-structural protein(s) (nsp)-10, nsp-14, nsp-15 or nsp-16. The coronavirus may be used as a vaccine for treating and/or preventing a disease, such as infectious bronchitis, in a subject.
    Type: Grant
    Filed: July 23, 2015
    Date of Patent: November 20, 2018
    Assignee: THE PIRBRIGHT INSTITUTE
    Inventors: Erica Bickerton, Sarah Keep, Paul Britton
    https://www.pirbright.ac.uk/about-us/our-governance

    Description
    FIELD OF THE INVENTION
    The present invention relates to an attenuated coronavirus comprising a variant replicase gene, which causes the virus to have reduced pathogenicity. The present invention also relates to the use of such a coronavirus in a vaccine to prevent and/or treat a disease.
    https://patents.justia.com/patent/10130701

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  27. Bodies Of 400 Children Discovered In Hidden Mass Grave At Catholic Orphanage

    The report revealed the discovery of a mass grave containing the bodies of over 400 orphans — including babies, toddlers, and children.

    The investigation, conducted by the Sunday Post and the BBC, looked into the dark secret of the Catholic run Smyllum Park orphanage.

    As the BBC reports, the Daughters of Charity of St Vincent de Paul, which ran the home, refused to comment on the findings.

    https://humansarefree.com/2020/01/bodies-of-400-children-discovered-in-hidden-mass-grave-at-catholic-orphanage.html

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    • Mere collateral damage. Just add them to the 1663 deaths at the Magdalene laundries in Ireland.

      By the time digging into the past of the murderous Roman Catholic church is finished the casualty list will rival the Holocaust.

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      • Notice how the outrage is selective.
        As if these murders are run of the mill, everyday occurrences.
        It’s always the people we are told we can trust, that are the most heinous.
        Charities, foundations, organisations and governments.
        Brimming with vexatious hate and contemptible cowardice towards the least fortunate and worst of all, the innocent.

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        • Those in the orphanages suffered the worst. They lived on church property, were “educated” in church schools. At all times they were under the control of religious sadists.

          Imagine the terror of being beaten half to death & sexually abused with no hope of sanctuary or escape. Those who survived these hellholes were generally bent out of shape for the rest of their lives.

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          • I know.
            I have encountered them, more often than I would’ve wished.
            There used to be wards full of them.

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    • Just the council wanting money, more money. This resource consent business iss and attrocious waste of money.

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  28. 70th Anniversary Of Orwell’s Death Sees ‘Newspeak’ Censorship Soaring

    It is a dangerous practice: Government, corporations, universities, news outlets and “experts” curating our information so that we cannot access, see or believe that which they determine we should not access, see or believe.

    If anyone had suggested to Orwell, or the American founders, that we would invite this sort of manipulation and control of our information, they wouldn’t have believed it.
    The idea was first introduced on the national stage by President Obama in October of 2016 right before the presidential election. He insisted that somebody needed to step in and “curate” our information in the “Wild, Wild West” internet environment.

    Nobody had been clamoring for any such thing.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/70th-anniversary-orwells-death-sees-newspeak-censorship-soaring

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    • …and here is some now

      Simon Bridges and Jacinda Ardern both promising ‘positive’ campaigns but already swapping jabs
      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/01/simon-bridges-and-jacinda-ardern-both-promising-positive-campaigns-but-already-swapping-jabs.html

      Bridges himself was punished by the House Speaker in October for defying his ruling to remove attack ads using Parliament TV footage featuring MPs without their permission.

      The National Party is stalling on whether it will voluntarily sign up to Facebook’s tool – rules only the Greens had signed up to before Labour did.

      Bridges said it’s a possibility: “We might do.”

      While Bridges has also promised a positive election campaign this year, Ardern said she has “certainly heard” that the National Party is too negative.

      Bridges shot back at the Prime Minister with a dig at the speech she made at last year’s Labour caucus retreat, where Ardern labelled 2019 her “year of delivery”.

      “She should look in the mirror about her fake news of a year of delivery.”

      “So, this is an attempt to show up National for being on the attack, and it corners Simon Bridges slightly over signing up to those Facebook rules.

      With a smile, the Prime Minister has kicked off election year by delivering a relentlessly positive and calculated attack on National.”

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      • Well the gutless Bridges and his woke Nats will sign up.
        Attack is the best form of defence. But don’t tell Soiman.

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        • Simon has never seen a bit of anti freedom, authoritarian legislation that he didn’t like.

          Similar to a leopard’s spots it’s in his dna.

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  29. It seems that water slides and bumpy castles are not just for kids.
    Labour have taken a liking to them.

    Blocking the picturesque rolling hills and vineyard was a sizable, inflatable bouncy slide.
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern was clear to her MPs and to the curious press gallery members – some quite keen for a slide: “It’s only for children”.

    She told the Herald that she had not had a turn, and did not intend to either.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12302964

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    • Has Darren Hughes left town after Chippys wedding or is he one of the speakers at the retreat. How could you trust someone that chased a young lad down a street when he was naked and runing for his life and allow him to be around young children, but I guess that is the Labour way.

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      • Get nasska to go and have a sly perv. He can pretend he’s a shepherd who has lost his lamb on the way to slaughter. He heard Liarbour were in town and had been told they were known for demolishing young things at night.

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        • You’re kidding. When Martinborough sold its soul to the wankers who “craft” pinot noir they erected an invisible sign banning shepherds & sheep for a kilometre from the town square. In a similar way to hi-viz jackets being the preferred dress of all good burglars the only way to go undercover in Martinborough is to dress as a half pissed Wellington yuppy staggering around the place with a cellphone in one hand & your cock in the other.

          Your co-respondent is a little too long in the tooth to change! 🙂

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        • To elaborate…….this humble commenter can remember Martinborough as it was at its best.

          Basically, it was a service town for the farming community from Mt Adams around the coast to Lake Ferry. Its only claim to fame was the tavern immortalised by the soap opera “Pukemanu”. Just about everyone in town was involved in agriculture or its support. When the grape growers took over the original residents sold their homes to Wellington posers & bought freehold & mortgage free in nearby Featherston.

          As an aside I read a sobering report of one old widow who had lived in a particular street of about forty houses for about 70 years. At the time of writing she was the only permanent resident in the street, the balance having been bought by weekenders. There weren’t sufficient permanent residents to volunteer for the fire brigade & ambulance.

          But the old town had its characters. I recall one cow cocky who drove a WW2 army Bren Gun carrier around to his mate’s place to pick him up for a night on the piss. The unfortunate’s ball & chain decided that he was staying home so our hero nudged the house off it’s piles. They jacked it back into place the next morning & all was forgiven.

          But it didn’t pay to piss off old Tinny. 🙂

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  30. Shane Jones blasts Greenpeace for ‘deifying’ Māui dolphins in ‘clever’ anti-fishing campaign
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/01/shane-jones-blasts-greenpeace-for-deifying-m-ui-dolphins-in-clever-anti-fishing-campaign.html

    The battle between Shane Jones and Greenpeace is heating up as the minister accuses the environmental group of “deifying” Māui dolphins as part of a “cleverly branded” anti-fishing campaign.

    Jones told Newshub “green prophets” have “deified” the Māui dolphin which he says is just a type of hector’s dolphin that’s been “cleverly branded” by Greenpeace.

    “The livelihood and the security of our human communities must never be allowed to be charmed by the deification of the Māui dolphin,” Jones, the Minister for Regional Economic Development, said.

    “I’ve been out on fishing boats in Taranaki… when I went up to Taranaki, they said, ‘Well, Scotland’s got the Loch Ness Monster [which is] much talked about and rarely seen, and we’ve got Māui dolphin’,” Jones said.

    “I think during the course of this year we’re going to have to bring many of these issues to a head.”

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    • Does this mean that the Greens and NZF are going to go toe to toe because neither of them dares to criticise Labour? Will it be none, one or both in the next parliament.

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      • Be interesting to watch the body language of that prick Peters in question time this year as he tries to distance himself from Liarbore and COL..?

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        • Who says that he will pick a fight with Labour, they want to be the only one and so do the Greens, that one seat last time must have made them spit.

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  31. I must say this ignorant comment from Socialist Cindy really annoyed me today.

    Ardern said it is “incredibly important it is for us as the Labour Party that New Zealand does not fall prey to what we’ve seen happen in other jurisdictions”.

    Unsurprisingly her comment makes it obvious that Socialist Cindy is as blind to what the majority of the west really want as her ultra-partisan Labour colleague Jeremy Corban.

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    • Different cultures place different values on food. We Westerners have had the skill and fortune to build an efficient food production system and have generally ensured our population does not go hungry. For us, the slider between food and pet is very limited in terms of what we’d consider food (normally). For many Asians, not so.

      Mama Bear’s favourite snack when she was growing up was a deep fried chicken head with the comb on it. She’d eat the comb, then pick out the brain. She recalls being grateful when her dad bought home fat. Not meat, just the fat. Because it was all that was available following the Great Leap forward. Hunger moves that slider quite quickly. Although, when I asked her if the zombie apocalypse came – would she eat our dogs? She replied “I’d eat the children first” and I’m still not convinced she was joking 🙂

      I don’t think they’re quite as starving these days from what I’ve seen, but when you’re raised to eat anything and be thankful for it – meat is meat maybe? It’s not a cuddly Koala, it’s dinner.

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      • There seemed a huge range of animals available at that market, there is also the question of where the koalas camefrom, aren’t they just native to Australia, so they have either been breed from zoo animals? Or they have been smuggled, if smuggled I would think the meat would be very pricey.

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NZD - New Zealand Dollar
USD
1.4790
EUR
1.7510
AUD
1.0782
CAD
1.1201
GBP
1.9103
JPY
0.0141
CNY
0.2185
INR
0.0201