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      • New Zealand has around 20 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and zero deaths and just look at the panic that is starting to grip us already.

        Being afraid to live is a disease that our Western (and by extension globalist) civilisation has had for around 50 years.

        It started with the books ‘Silent Spring’ and ‘The Population Bomb’, which between them generated the cancer of Environmentalism.

        In the late 60s Western Civilisation started to eat itself from the inside. This worldwide panic is the latest manifestation of the powerful mindset of abject fear which has gripped humanity. It won’t stop here either. This societal decay has an acceleration much like the curve of a disease itself and we will probably literally tear ourselves and our society to pieces in some Mad Max scenario.

        Hopefully we won’t actually nuke the whole world and, with a bit of luck, there will be a more sane society which will emerge from the ruins.

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  3. Who said, “we need to close our borders?”
    Who said, “we need to bring our businesses home?”
    Who said, “we need to become less dependant on other countries to survive?”
    Who said, “we need to take care of America first?”
    Who said that the man who said these things was and imbecile and an idiot etc etc?”

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  4. Morning, so yu’all sleeping in becuase you aren’t allowed to go to do anything. Remember the tit pullers are out there milkin their cows and saving our bacon.
    Tea I know its boring listening to cindy. at he moment she is out rating Simon.

    Anyone considering tinder or such for luv in, its a no non just now. Guess there will be a demand for those handy toys.

    Gardening looks like the go this weekend.

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  9. I’ve been noticing something.
    All over the internet of things, in the streets, in the papers, on the radio etc, the people who contribute the least to society believe they are more likely to succumb to the dreaded lurgy, and therefore deserve more attention…any attention.
    I wonder if the subconscious guilt of knowing they are being a burden on society, triggers hysterical outbursts, nonsensical diatribe and an overall ‘what about me’ infantile mindset.(A modern day survival technique)
    I suppose in times like this, when people are forced to take stock of what really matters, these people eventually realize, they don’t.

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  10. No one here will be surprised the COL are doling out funding to business’ willy-nilly instead of doing the work to target those business’ that need up to $150,000 taxpayer funding bailout money. If a business can receive $150,000 injection during their usual annual downtime why wouldn’t they put their hand up.

    From KB:
    MT_Tinman

    I was told yesterday I will be receiving tax-payer money for doing nothing – for the time that traditionally I would be doing nothing.

    Knowing taxes will be required to pay this money back (The CoL has spent all existing money on election bribes and will borrow the rest) even if I refuse it, I’ll happily take the payout.

    This incident shows, to me, just how incompetent the current lot are at targeting assistance to where it’s needed

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  13. Daughter at Massey has been told that face-to-face lectures are to be suspended (no labs either) until the start of Semester 2 in early July. She loves her mother’s cooking (so hard to get good Japanese home cooking in Palmy) and so I am sure that she will drive up to Auckland (and bring her cat with her) in mid April. Our two female cats will not be happy with the return of the Alpha male cat.

    Other daughter continues to work from home.

    I continue to work from home (as I have done so since the early 1990s, so I am used to it by now).

    My wife informs me that Countdown will only allow purchases of two identical items at a time, in a move to prevent panic buying. I will cook homemade pizza tonight. I hope I can still buy my cheap Australian shiraz…

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    • “only two identical items at a time”

      Phuck – only two tiny tins of catfood at a time? To last Tiddles for the month-long social isolation shut-down?

      Shit I’d better cash-in one or two of my hoarded stockpile of loo rolls to get some Bitcoin so I can go to the catfood black market to get enough to keep poor Tiddles going!

      (I’ve been trying to fatten TIddles up a bit as I was banking on him to be my emergency protein source if Skeletor socialist Cindy goes really crazy and goes for a 6 week shutdown).

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    • I’ve just been talking to my 89 year old dad. Their Ryman Health aged care village is in lockdown with staff on the gate checking for eligiblility to enter. Dad was quick to tell me the staff have been around delivering a bottle of wine per resident and potato chips. When I suggested wine and chippies were nice but not very nutritious for a lockdown, he said “no but it makes us feel good”. 😂

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  14. I’m backing Ally Mau

    The problem with Chinese Virus is that it is sucking all the oxygen away from the regular whiners in our media dung heap.

    No one wants to hear, see, print, publish anything that isn’t Chinese Virus related. Does anyone remember that flat-faced girl from Lapland who didn’t want to go to school and made up the best excuse ever? Remember when it was cool to kick an oval ball around between two H shaped posts?

    And what about #MeToo.

    Spare a thought for poor lemonsuck-faced Ally Mau – #MeToo had been a valuable lifeline for her pathetic failure of a career. Once again we were able to enjoy her annoying nasally Austrain voice – trotting out regular doses of misandry as she blamed men for all the woes of her sad empty existence.

    What’s the bets that when Skeletor socialist Cindy pulls down the iron curtain on a full societal lockdown that Alison Mau publishes something that warns us all that women will be the victims of staying at home. I can see it now …. “not only will sainted women be stuck with doing the usual chores, they’ll be expected to turn the other cheek as their frustrated, good for nothing, stay at home men need to beat them up to find something entertaining to do. Just like the wives of those nasty violent firefighters in Australia who had to wait at home home to experience the oppression of the patriarchy and suffer with (based on no evidence at all) certain domestic abuse”.

    There you go Ms Mau – now you don’t even have to think – you just can cut and paste my words above. Love your work 🙂

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  15. Research into those who have died from the virus in Italy.

    “Research into 355 deaths found that only three of the victims, 0.8 per cent, had been clear of illnesses before they were infected,” The Daily Mail reported. “Nearly half of them – 48.5 per cent – already had three or even more health conditions before they were diagnosed with Covid-19. Another 25.6 per cent had two other ‘pathologies’, while 25.1 per cent had one.”

    The research by Italy’s National Institute of Health is consistent with previous findings that people with existing illnesses are more likely to die from coronavirus.

    According to the study, the most common of these problems in Italy include high blood pressure, heart disease and diabetes.

    Some 76.1 per cent of the patients who died of Covid-19 had previously had problems with high arterial blood pressure, the study found.

    More than a third – 35.5 per cent – had diabetes, while 33.0 per cent had suffered from ischemic heart disease.

    The study also found that the average age of those who died from the virus in Italy was 79.5, and slightly higher for women. “

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  16. A while back I posted a prophecy.
    It came from a a bit of digging on the 2019-2020 Bilderberg meeting attendees.
    I said a rank outsider would probably take a run at the Presidency soon.
    She fitted all the critical criteria for diversity in the Democratic Party, those being , “A black woman”.
    She’s been given the nod by the Deep State and will be bankrolled by the banks.
    Federal and Central banks need to collapse pretty soon, or the world is going to be a very different place to exist in the future.

    Stacey Abrams Is Joe Biden’s Strongest Running-Mate Prospect, Poll Finds

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/poll-stacey-abrams-is-bidens-best-running-mate-choice.html

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    • In the corrupt minds of the modern day fascistic left – this is how they think.

      1) Don’t worry about Biden’s mental health problems – the voters are stupid, they’ll do as we say this time – we’re going to frighten the fuck out of them with a virus
      2) We can tick off another one of our “firsts” by putting a black woman in the WhiteHouse by having Stacey Adams as VP. Biden will forget the Inauguration Ceremony and we can slide Stacey into the WhiteHouse – no one will notice!
      3) But isn’t she a) stupid, b) fat and unattractive and she couldn’t even win in Georgia d) Remember when she lost that vote and “Democracy failed” – Nah – no one will remember that! Remember they’re going to be in a panic over the Chinese Virus. It’ll be fine
      4) And if all turns tits up – we can always use Hilary instead – then we get “First Female President”.

      Going to be entertaining this year!

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  17. Went to Countdown Hastings at 8am to get my normal weekly milk and bread.
    No.Not open until 9am I was told so went to New World .Just madness.So much stuff gone.Rice ,pasta, baked beans cleaners,, shelves empty I don’t know what was on them.

    Well not to worry Shine TV has special programming for Nasska to make up for the banned over 100 congregation.

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  18. The real problem of the Chinese virus, is really here in New Zealand too.

    China’s Real Disease: Not Coronavirus
    ….. and the Chinese people, who are now demanding fundamental political change — realize that the real disease is communism. …..
    …… It is the enemy. …..

    ….. “Does trade increase or decrease the likelihood of conflict?” …..
    …… reduces the probability of war between nations is, at a minimum, not proven, and much evidence exists to the contrary.” ….

    [at the end of a comment] “don’ expect the CCP to “help” the world or even their own people with the “virus problem”, except to cover it up and blame it on other countries”

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15745/coronavirus-china-communism

    Many other countries have caught more than a tad of this Chinese Virus.
    We even see how it is in NZ, as there is often talk of collateral damage, as they pursue their agenda, and to gain votes/power.

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  19. Ardern lied, while telling us she was the only source of truth.

    The lockdown was declared by stealth yesterday. Thousands of government workers were placed under house arrest. Rationing is in force. Streets are deserted. Businesses are closed.

    The leak was genuine and was a draft press release.

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  20. A mate sent me an email this morning and I’d post it on here if i knew how to do that, it shows 4 chinese men sitting around a table having drinks when one of their wives brings out a large plate of finger food complete with five seperate sauces in smaller bowls .
    In the middle of this was a large bowl filled with what appears to be baby rats with still closed eyes and wriggling around in the bowl still so small they weren’t able to crawl around.
    The men then using the supplied chop sticks begun picking up the rats and dropping them in their choice of sauces ,rolling them round and then eathing them ,. thank god i was born in NZ just imagine trying to get used to that diet FFS.
    Apparently the reason for this disgusting meat intake is because the mainly rural ares of China have never advanced into actual meat farming as we know it with sheep, cows,pig etc, one of the men stated that anything that moves on land an sea is eaten in “old China”.
    We now have 50 cases of China virus in NZ ,thats 1 to every 100,000 people don’t panic folks.

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    • Another dimension to our 3 course meal.

      ~ The 3 squeaks meal,
      ~ The squeak when picked up by chop sticks.
      ~ The squeak when dipped into the sauce.
      ~ The squeak when the teeth bear down.
      Also may have got the taste for these things when they survived a famine through the centuries.

      So for some it is like “rotten corn” “oysters”, and that reminisce of child hood memories became routine.

      I meet an elderly Romanian couple born into the Ceaușescu era and they wanted milk from the vat,, as the homogenized, pasteurized milk did not make yogurt as their mother used to do. The Dad worked in the community dairy farm, & seems like he acquired extra milk, to feed his children.
      Certainly not my taste, after it had been left covered on the bench for a week in the summer, but they just reveled with it, and obviously jogged their memories.

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    • Even here where there is plenty of meat and especially chicken available, they still contact those of us who hatch eggs to ask for unhatched chicks – they like to eat them shortly before they hatch. I find it quite disgusting and refuse sell them like that.

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  21. 13 new cases
    53 cases tested confirmed total
    Can not rule out community contamination.

    1500 tests done yesterday.

    3 now in hospital

    Ruby Princess cruise ship in Sydney
    swabs 3 passengers 1 crew member + ive
    checking on passengers returning to NZ
    isolation orders
    Celebrity Solace cruise ship 1 confirmed.
    ==============
    Questions
    Testing ramped up from yesterday 1000
    Now 1500 per day done

    Can not rule out community transmission in Wairaparapa
    Symptomatic, symptons so then tested on that one.

    Interesting points about Ruby Princess, the tests, and what was clear. then the more tests.

    Confirming that tests will still be limited, as per guide lines
    Singapore is sending more test kits.

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      • The gap mystery of the Ruby Princess, another petri dish, and now being unleashed.

        “When the ship [Ruby Princess]docked in Wellington, there were people on board who had influenza like illness’s, now, anyone with her, with any sort of illness is not allowed to actually get off the ship at a port in and do the visit until they are well, and the ships also have-point-of-care testing so they can test for to confirm influenza.
        When the ship docked in Wellington actually there were 5 people who were tested for CoVid-19 and those tests were all negative.
        So the effect of the fact that there has subsequently been CoVid-19 +ive tests on it is interesting, but they were obviously not the people who were tested when that ship was in Wellington. ….
        … so that ship is now but that is now finished its its cruising back in Sydney. …..
        ….. there is that power and so what the ships were doing at the time it was identifying any people with influenza like illness
        of course they have very stringent processes they put in place
        They isolate these passengers or crew or if they are crew and they are not allowed to have contact with other passengers and in this case when it came into Wellington because there was an extra level of caution being applied the people who had influenza symptoms on board were tested for CoVid-19 and those tests were negative too”.

        From 24:20 – 26 : 25

        Dead air for the first 12 minutes.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmNjihU9pSo&feature=emb_logo

        A bit late, when one knows that sometimes up to 3 swabs have to be taken to get past the false negatives.

        “On board there were some people on board the cruise ship who presented with flu-like symptoms,” Mr Hazzard said.
        The doctor on board did 13 swabs to test for coronavirus and three passengers, who disembarked at Circular Quay, were later confirmed to have COVID-19. They are receiving treatment in Sydney.
        A fourth case is a crew member who is in isolation and is still on board the ship. ,,,,
        ….. “One of those passengers was not at all well, and was taken off the ship and has been taken to a hospital here in Sydney, and is being cared for. That particular passenger, now patient, is not particularly well.”
        https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/passengers-on-cruise-ship-off-sydney-test-positive-for-coronavirus/news-story/92052326728d63d1510858abed382a91
        Horse has bolted, and now close the stable door.

        Chasing those passengers down to insist on the routine “14 days isolation” will need a real good black tracker, with the head start many will have.

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      • Just on a google.
        It is all behind a pay wall.
        Absolutely unbelievable~! ! !
        Some people should be swinging over this criminal act.
        Coronavirus: Ruby Princess cruise ship allowed to dock in …
        The Australian-1 hour ago

        A cruise ship that docked in Sydney with four confirmed cases of COVID-19 on Thursday had previously been sailing with 158 sick passengers on board — including 13 with high temperatures — who disembarked at Circular Quay before the vessel left for New Zealand with nearly 4,000 on board. The Ruby Princess,

        This will blow up much more now.

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    • This could have been avoided

      So whatever it is that Skeletor socialist Cindy announces, it’s going to be one step behind where it should have been. If it hadn’t been for her staggering vanity of her in wanting to have the 15 March shooting photo-op with a rag on her head pulling her one-trick pony frowny face – we could have taken advantage of our unique advantage of being a distant island nation and been in safe splendid isolation weeks ago.

      Let’s just take stock:
      – head in sand while her Chinese paymasters were spreading the Chinese virus around in January – check
      – bulk importation of likely carriers by a ‘virtue-signal’ flight to return NZ plague vectors from Wuhan – check
      – the joke ‘self-isolation’ strategy was employed to make sure of community spread – check
      – the continual lies about ‘not present in the community’ despite doing absolutely fuck-all testing to base that lie upon – check
      – the pathetic attempt to keep her photo-op in Christchurch in play – putting thousands of vulnerable NZers at risk for her vanity – check
      – playing cheap politics by trying to muzzle the weak opposition from doing their job (by accusing Bridges of playing politics ) this was classic 1930s propaganda (Goebbels: “accuse your enemy of that which you are guilty of”) – check
      – lying like a hooker in an Alabama cathouse about the recovery package – bringing forward ideological benefit increases from the Budget in the hope that no one notices that it a) isn’t going to keep businesses afloat and b) that it is the lowest quality of spend if you really want to add some stimulus to the economy – check
      – continually lying by saying “these are the strongest measures in the world” knowing full well that it is NOT a dick-measuring contest – the only thing that mattered was doing what was best for NZers – and at every fucking turn the SLG has NOT DONE THAT.

      What an absolute omnishambles! The only good joke is that Winston has probably let the SLG wipe out the people in rest homes who might give him a chance of staying in power!

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  23. My guesses on most likely scenarios:
    A. Election postponed
    B. School shut downs
    C. Total lockdown of workplaces
    D. Lots of fucking bobble heading
    E. Frowning and blaming us for the fact she let in 50 infected people

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    • Ardern just reads cue cards

      The Bobby head and hand gestures along with the pained, gaunt look are her own contribution to give it her brand.
      She would have been resisting putting in restrictions for many weeks because it impacts her ‘kindness index’.
      In the last 10 days that has turned and she is reading the script; albeit reluctantly.
      Largely it is drawing from what USA and Australia are doing.
      Both of those countries have some degree of border control unlike the Europeans, Middle East etc… until recently.

      We are in for the shittiest time for 90 years (the great depression) and she is the figurehead.
      This will be knocking about her already fragile mental health.

      As a citizen this does concern me. I prefer the politicians I remember from the 1960s and 1970s.
      They were a lot more pragmatic than we have seen in the last 30 years.
      They had lived through the Depression, a World at War , 6 O’clock closing and instant coffee.
      They knew hardship.
      This lot do not.
      The likes of Bridges, Ardern and Shaw are of an age that they do not even remember the harsh changes and rapid mass change to industry and commerce that occurred in the 1980s. Nor were they affected by the harsh recession of 1988 to 1992.
      The only real hardship they have faced in the last 40 years is high house prices and that is their making with continuing to let in high immigration numbers while not building houses.

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      • …”The only real hardship they have faced in the last 40 years is high house prices and that is their making with continuing to let in high immigration numbers while not building houses.”

        And that only affects their constituents so its business as normal. Though I do have an admiration for Chris Bishop. He is a very approachable MP and at this stage seems to genuinely care about his electorate. It remains to be seen if that goes by the wayside if he is elevated in the party.

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    • Yes – so the reason we’re seeing a jump in the number of confirmed cases is that today is the first day after the first round of 1000 tests. And what a surprise – there’s no evidence of what we’ve all known for some time – that if you have no controls at all on the introduction of the virus, the virus is going to spread.

      I’m afraid I don’t trust the official channels that she’s banging on about. These are run by the same people that weren’t doing any testing and were telling us that there was no evidence (if you don’t look you can’t fucking see it).

      As always, this is a time when we have to trust our own judgement and do what makes sense for each of us.

      Keeping schools open only makes sense if you are desperately keen to spread the virus as far and as fast as possible. It’s totally illogical to suggest otherwise.

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  26. BallSack update.
    Had my worst day yesterday, had to close work in the morning. Massive migraine, lungs aching, throat on fire and sore legs and arms.
    Fever through the night, alternated between panadol, vapodrops, with aspro clear. Steered clear of alcohol and went to bed at 11am.
    Still feel like shit today but trying to rest and keep away from my family. Very runny nose though. Someone sell me some fucking toilet paper!

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    • Upticked in support. Well that’s crap. We’re all hoping that it’s just a crappy cold. Stay strong and keep away from watching the PM’s announcement – I guarantee it’ll make you feel much worse.

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      • I’ve been ranting around the house after watching the incompetent PTPM and her latest statement to placate irate kiwis!!! Smiling and a condescending hypnotic tone isn’t going to cut it Cindy. IT WAS OBVIOUS 5-6 WEEKS AGO the Chinese virus shit storm was heading our way if you didn’t immediately shut the borders. We knew it was coming so govt officials must have known but you SAT ON YOUR HANDS!
        I’m bloody angry. Rant over 😡
        PS, hubby is safe. 😉

        Feel better soon ABS. Chicken soup for fluid and nutrients.

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        • Second the chicken soup advice. I foresee a lot of chicken and rice on the menu in weeks to come. I laid in those 5KG bags of Tegel chicken legs and thighs some weeks ago when PaknSave had them at $19 and have sacks of rice too.

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          • I was in Pak n Save Petone on Thursday buying cleaning supplies and a Samoan lady walked out with a trolley stacked full of frozen chicken pieces, 200KG minimum. Behind her was her daughter pushing exactly the same. No surprise though, when KFC shuts its doors, those people will have nothing (that they like) to eat.

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            • I worry where all the $ is coming from.
              I don’t think it’s all rich pricks sweeping the supermarket shelves clear.
              Families who stretch to pay the weekly grocery bill will be very challenged to stock the garage to the gunwhales with baked beans, rice, pasta, toilet paper, sanitary pads, janola and paracetamol.
              I wonder how many landlords aren’t getting paid the rent because the freezer has been filled with bread and chicken legs.

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    • Sorry to hear that you’re very ill, ABS.

      If you can get some, try having some manuka honey each day. Really – I’m no greenie but it’s good stuff and really helps kill the bugs. Good in a lemon-honey drink too.

      Very best wishes from me.
      – T.

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    • I will be fine thanks Kea, just working too hard and not taking care of my own health when I should be.
      BTW for every ones own safety, I am completely disinfecting any public area in my work space with meths at least every hour or after each customer (most important) and keeping at least 2 meters distance from people. I wash my hands every 20 minutes at least. I have also told the majority of people I come into contact with that I travelled to Australia recently and havent been feeling well. If you know me personally or through work you will have heard these statements from me 🙂
      I at least give everyone the information that I have on hand and the option to mitigate the risks.

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  28. Alert levels are her big announcement. Its hard to be polite about this.

    Assigning an arbitrary number to the pandemic has zero effect on anything.

    Her only concern is reelection. She is allowing infected Pacific Islanders to flood in. They will come here demanding health care and to infect us.

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  29. I am undecided as to whether it is sexist to say that I can see why young men were so enamoured at her dick sucking skills. That uncontrolled head jerking from the side to side must surely have enhanced an already toothy experience.
    I’ll see myself out.

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  30. Talking to our son earlier, who lives in Melbourne. It has been reported in Aussie that Coles have turned over (or made profit) in the last month as much as they would in 3 normal Xmas periods !!! Buy supermarket shares !!
    He also said Good Guys , who works for in IT, have been selling freezers like “hot cakes”.

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    • My nephew who is in Australia, flying back in on Monday to isolation and unemployment told me Coles was employing 5k people as stockers, 35 thousand people applied for the jobs. Compare that with New Zealand where orchards have fruit rotting on the vines.
      Which leads me to my next point. Why havent supermarkets employed more overnight stockers like we used to have, instead of relying on the people out back to do 2 jobs? No wonder there’s a shortage in the aisles.

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    • Daughter and Irish son-out-law are in Melbourne working as Chefs…
      Their kiwi mates working as casuals have headed back to NZ.
      Their Ozzie mates laid off office/retail work are desperately seeking cash-pay jobs baby-sitting/dog walking.
      Returning to NZ is their least-preferred option….
      Daughter reckons the restaurants are starting to branch-out in providing take-away meals… (Top chefs making pies.)

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    • I just wonder if New World has deliberately allowed some shelves to go completely bare, to impart shoppers with a sense of dread and urgency.

      Maybe I am being too cynical, but from a sales/management perspective, nervous shoppers buy more, which is good for business.

      I have also seen the prices of pasta go up a little bit.

      What do the rest of you think?

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  31. The Covid-19 alert system is a PR trick.

    It’s purpose is to allow Ardern to attribute unpopular decisions to the alert level rather than herself. In reality she will make the decision and the corresponding alert will be assigned to it.

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    • Ross12 ,seems to me the ruination of KB was intentional but F- – – Ked if i know what the end game is .
      the last time I made a comment on kb I post dated it by 24 hours and when septicboy told me I had the wrong day my response was “im making room for the slow editing ” and got banned for it.
      the way it is for me is if I say “jam K B up your arse” unlike others I’ll never go there again.
      YSB will be bigger and it’s already better.

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  34. I was wondering where Jethro was and low and behold, he bursts into print.
    The baby’s missing her mother. No you mean she’s just doing the job that she’s paid for instead of slicing off. Suck it sweetheart, that’s why she gets the big bucks! No kindys for you!

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  35. Received the following from NZMCA
    Sounds like a lockdown of the country to me

    Keep calm, stay safe – and stay at home!
    That’s the vital message that NZMCA CEO Bruce Lochore wants to get across to members in the face of New Zealand’s escalating COVID-19 crisis.

    “I know that’s not what some members will want to hear; but with the number of those affected increasing daily and the emerging potential of community transmission I believe it’s crucial that our membership plays its part in helping stop the spread of the virus.

    “Two areas which Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern highlighted in her address to the nation today affect us directly:

    The directive that over-70s should now be limiting movement outside their homes; and
    The requirement that all New Zealanders should be limiting their travel within the country – as ‘every unnecessary movement gives COVID-19 a chance to spread’.

    “Those aren’t suggestions,” said Mr Lochore, “they are clear directions from our Government in what the Prime Minister described as our ‘fight to ‘slow down a tidal wave of COVID-19 and break it into smaller waves, which would reduce the impact on health and the economy’.

    “I know that there have been some calls from within the hard-hit tourism industry for New Zealanders to get out and fill the gap left by departing international tourists.

    But frankly, such calls are bordering on the irresponsible.

    “I understand the tourism industry is in a terrible situation but trying to create an opportunity to continue travelling is not the appropriate course of action right now.

    “Mind you, if there’s work you’ve been thinking of getting done on your van, you should get it sorted while you’re not using it – and support the motorhome industry at the same time. Drop it around to a local business so your vehicle is all set to go when we take the brakes off domestic travel.

    “Because, while I can’t say when; there will come a time when we will actively encourage our members to get out and support the tourist industry.

    “Meantime though, our country’s absolute priority is to do everything we can to stamp out this bug and as a small, but significant, community within this country, NZMCA members need to play our part in helping achieve that aim.

    “That means joining in with our communities and making the same sacrifices they are.”

    Mr Lochore says members who ignore the Government’s requirements and continue travelling risk doing untold damage to the Association, and in fact, the motorhome industry as a whole.

    “As an industry we have spent years trying to shed the ‘pooing in the bushes’ image of freedom campers; I can’t imagine how we’d ever get rid of the stigma if motorhomers were linked to the spread of COVID-19 because a few people selfishly put their own desires ahead of what’s best for the country.”

    Mr Lochore said just how real the fear of the disease being spread by motorhomers was reflected by the message the NZMCA received last night from residents of the East Coast. It read:

    “We ask that in light of the COVID-19 pandemic you actively discourage your NZ Motor Caravan Association members from travelling to the East Cape of the North Island.

    “Our people are severely at risk, with many who are immuno-compromised and our health services inadequate – with no GPs, and the nearest hospital 180km away. COVID-19 in our communities would decimate our people.

    “Visitors coming into our area will be stopped at check points in Te Araroa and Wharekahika (Hicks Bay). To save us all the pain, heartache and embarrassment, please share this with your members.

    “Of course, once the virus is no longer of concern, we will be happy to welcome you all back with open arms.”

    “You can take it as read that we expect all members to respect that request,” said Mr Lochore.

    “The Board had the courage to do the right thing in banning rallies and other social get-togethers for members up until the end of May.

    “Now, it’s up to each and every one of us to play our part in joining the rest of the country and taking every step available to us to get on top of this unprecedented situation.”

    NZMCA Park use update
    In response to the worsening COVID-19 crisis, the NZMCA has announced that while all Parks remain open, the following further restrictions are applicable immediately and will stay in place until further notice:

    Where NZMCA Parks have existing toilet facilities – i.e. Marton – they will be closed for hygiene reasons;
    Existing length of stay conditions in NZMCA Parks will not be extended, under any circumstances. Instead they may be shortened; and
    NZMCA Parks cannot be used to self-isolate.

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    • Certainly gives more weight to the feeling of shut down, when it hits closer to your life.

      “Visitors coming into our area will be stopped at check points in Te Araroa and Wharekahika (Hicks Bay). To save us all the pain, heartache and embarrassment, please share this with your members.
      I thought I heard something in the news about this and I first thought it was Waitangi Tribunal sort of iwi issue? 🙁
      Not even through the region, hospital or a council
      On whose authority?
      Who are the people who will be manning these checkpoints 24 hours a day?

      Though I do understand the concern and to make a local decision and tell the government to butt out is no bad idea. 🙂

      Ardern points out, she is supposed to bring the news of such good tidings, or bobble away about the bad stuff. 🙁

      “Of course, once the virus is no longer of concern, we will be happy to welcome you all back with open arms.”
      and this gives a much better context to what I was not really listening to on the radio. 🙂

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    • Thats just racist.
      Damned Horis !!

      That is a big change in attitude.

      When i was at Uni in Wgtn I worked in a bar.
      There were a lot of people drank there from Tolaga Bay .They were damn fine people. Invited you to their homes for a drink and BBQ on a Sunday – when bars were closed.

      The last 30 years (since Geoff ‘merry’ Palmer) has seen these divisions grown
      It is a bad outcome and regressive.

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  36. Song lyrics for the incompetent socialist Cindy:

    “DO SOMETHING”

    I’ve been walkin’ through the fields
    And on the streets of town
    Trying to make sense of what you left me
    Everything that I believed in
    Has been turned upside down
    And now it seems the whole wide world’s gone crazy

    But when I feel like giving up
    And I’m ready to walk away
    In the stillness, I can hear
    A voice inside me say

    Do something
    Do something
    It’s too late for saving face
    Don’t just stand there takin’ up space
    Why don’t you do something?
    Do something
    It’s not over
    No, it’s never too late

    You were always on my side
    Love was all we had
    Now I sit and watch our love unraveling
    I pick up the morning paper
    All the news is bad
    How did we get on this road we’re traveling?

    But when I feel like giving up
    And there’s nowhere left to go
    That’s the time I dig down deep
    The only thing I know

    Do something
    Do something
    Don’t leave it up for someone else
    Don’t feel sorry for yourself
    Why don’t you do something?
    Do something
    It’s not over
    No, it’s never too late

    Run away
    You can’t run away
    For your honor
    For your pride
    You’ll sleep better
    Knowin’ you tried

    To do something
    Do something
    It’s too easy not to care
    You’re not ready for the rockin’ chair
    Get up and do something
    Do something
    Don’t wait too long
    Even if it’s wrong
    You’ve got to do something
    Do something
    It’s not over
    No, it’s never too late

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      • There wouldn’t be sufficient pakeha in the area from Te Araroa to Hicks Bay to make any difference even if they disagreed, which they probably don’t. It’s a place where the truism that the Crown governs by consent is tested frequently.

        You’re deep in the traditional tribal lands of the Ngati Porou on the East Cape.

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        • I wonder if these “traditional tribal lands of the Ngati Porou on the East Cape” are a net drain or a net contributor to State coffers?

          What is there to do out there, apart from fishing and motorcycle touring? The region must be the North Island’s “Deep East.”

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          • I was born & brought up to the age of seven in the area Odakyu-sen. I’ve been back a few times but it bears no resemblance to the place I remember.

            Tribal authority & gang allegiances balance an uneasy peace, unemployment is endemic & anecdotally, meth is taking it’s usual course. Most fishing is done by boats based outside the area as there are no all weather harbours while on land there’s low labour cattle & sheep farming & forestry. A lot of forestry where jobs will be disappearing as fast as the Chinese log boats from the Port of Gisborne. As in all Maori communities housing is old, dilapidated & in short supply.

            The scenery is beautiful but the life of a resident, less so.

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            • I would have thought with with the large number of “nephs” or “cuzzies” there would be plenty of labor to refurbish and re-paint the old housing stock in the Deep East. All you need is a ratio of one knowlegable foreman/carpenter and a dozen strapping young men and the problem of dilapidated housing can be attacked and defeated.

              What’s stopping them?

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              • ……”What’s stopping them?”……

                I stress that this is only opinion but it comes down to ownership. When an asset is tribally owned as many of the previous government housing stock are, peppercorn rents don’t allow much for maintenance. Even when a house is privately owned its occupants may not be the owners. Eg “Aunty ——” owns the house but she lives with her whanau in Gisborne. Nothing is demanded to be done & nothing is what happens until the house falls over.

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                • Does anyone lend money for building construction when there’s no privately owned land as security?

                  Communal owned property is useless as security for raising loan capital.

                  This has held back Maori home building and farming. Some sort of lending has developed where houses that can be moved can be used as security, but that’s still flaky compared with land security, and a loan will be a lesser proportion of a movable building’s cost. The feasibility of moving a building out of rough back country will also count.

                  Borrowing based on land security has been a core in development in many countries. This is not possible, or nearly impossible in undeveloped countries that have no, or minimal, cadastral (land registration and transfer) systems.

                  Communal property, usually inalienable – i.e., unable to be sold – is an economic anchor holding back many Maori communities.

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                  • That’s about it Jack. Progress was made in housing Maori in the 30’s & this continued into the 80s. It was achieved by allowing the Maori Trustee to guarantee or issue the loans through a mechanism where they took over the voting rights on tribal property interest held by the loan applicant.

                    When the loan was paid off the homeowner regained full rights. The effect was twofold. Capital was released to build on communally owned land & the Trustee was often able to build up sufficient votes over the land to allow squabbling hapu to utilise their assets in commercial farming/forestry.

                    Naturally this pragmatic solution was considered paternalistic & racist in the brave new world of Treaty settlements & the idea was canned.

                    We are all now reaping the rewards. //

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            • So right, such great cultural principles, in regards to tribal ownership.

              They really do not want to culturally appropriate white culture, and only when we insist that is freely given. so that it is totally free, from our taxpaying tribe.

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            • Nasska , my guess is there will be zero restrictions on the long road to and from the social welfare offices in that district and these people will soon break their boundaries to get into a hospital if they become sick,this is apartheid at its best,I wonder if the road blockers are armed?

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  38. Some of those cases we were told about today, I knew about days ago. It was not released for political reasons. In the Nelson case the corrupt bitch mayor wanted it hushed up. This was told to me by two different people. They were right.

    This whole thing is being conducted with politics first and public health second.

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    • I agree..

      A lot is being stage-managed and I feel there is a 24-48hr delay between what the DG Health knows and what we get fed.

      Expect major developments this coming week- as Parliament is not sitting and the media will make sure that opposing voices are not heard.

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      • In this case I heard 2 suspected cases Monday. Then a separate person told me Thursday the cases were confirmed and it was being suppressed. Then Saturday it was announced prior to the fake press conference/PR shoot.

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      • That is what i said over a week ago.
        We saw this with White Is in December in technicolor.

        The ‘Gnews’ release in NZ in Dec 2019 was more than a day behind the Brit and Aussie press.
        NZ media filth are pure propaganda arseholes.
        It was COVer up Island Disaster 2019
        or COVID 19

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  39. Comrade Cindy must think we’re all five year olds. What a patronising bloody pep talk we got a lunchtime. FS we know how to count; at least to four. There’s not need to hold up your fingers. She would’ve probably made a pretty decent preschool teacher. I wish she’d given it a go.

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    • It was a fake news conference with scripted questions from her media reelection team. A total farce. As are the daily announcements of cases, which are politically timed.

      I personally didn’t believe they were hiding cases, but my sources were right. I still underestimate what an evil psycho Ardern is.

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      • The State will be keen to find out just how compliant the population is.
        If the government orders everyone off the street and the population passively comply, then the State may be emboldened.
        What is National’s position on this (if they have one)? (I imagine that it is pretty much the same.)

        The Americans are facing a huge spike in applications for unemployment benefit. Their hospitality industry (like ours) is being badly hit.
        I feel there is a temporal overlap between the 1930s and the 2020s. We live in cursed but very interesting times…

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  42. Kea news
    your source of truth

    The media are keeping this from you, but one of the confirmed Nelson cases is a student at Nelson Boys College.

    Shame I’m not on social media. People deserve to know the truth.

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        • Plently of work in the vineyards at the moment. And there’s the added bonus that many of the jobs have worker accommodation so no excuse for the bone idle WINZ benefit life-stylers not to get out and help. Just cut their benefits if they refuse to go and help out.

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          • But but they have rights!

            This is becoming a viral emergency, and if there is a wage, quite right Alice.

            The only problem may the supervisor capacity, but it can be done.
            Just accommodation and food, for starters, and then pay for work that measures up.

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      • Guidelines, restrictions for bars, clubs, restaurants, casinos released by Government
        New Zealand’s bars, pubs, clubs, restaurants, and casinos will remain open but patrons will need to sign a guest register at the door, the Government has announced.

        Health Minister David Clark revealed the new restrictions for the ailing hospitality sector, impacted hard by the coronavirus pandemic, this afternoon.

        The guidelines developed between the Government, Hospitality New Zealand and SkyCity Entertainment Group, set out how the new restrictions on physical distancing and the limit of 100 people in an indoor space will work in bars and restaurants and other hospitality and entertainment venues.

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  46. A rare defence of Simon Bridges’ Covid-19 criticisms
    Whenever somebody argues that there should be “unity” and no criticism from the media or the Opposition, it brings to mind the days after the Pike River Mine disaster.

    Then there was a similar approach to the mine management during the press conferences: that it was not the time for criticism or hard questions, but for support. Peter Whittall was the good guy.

    The ones asking hard questions in those press conferences were the Australian journalists. It transpired those journalists were right all along.

    Now a similar sentiment seems to exist over Covid-19.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?objectid=12317823&&ref=recommended

    Interesting op ed.
    As oppossed to Hottons continuing nasty.

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    • I wont read the Horrid but fair to say Journalists are more of a threat to society than COVID
      I was at my mates along the road and having a beer outside.
      He wanted to watch the Gnews. I did not.
      However I went inside.
      What a load of crap and the Tova No’Brain was speculating and the other cue card reader was egging her along to speculate.

      I though Ardern said this was not to not happen.

      I went home after 12 minutes.
      I did not want to break my mates TV set.

      MSM is a virus.

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  47. Don’t expect the coronavirus pandemic to be over by Christmas.

    Instead, New Zealand is set for a long, drawn-out battle with the virus as different waves of the pandemic hit separate countries at different times, experts say.

    Tough travel restrictions are buying New Zealand invaluable time in the fight, but the complicated spread of the virus elsewhere means it will keep knocking at our door, says University of Otago public health professor Michael Baker.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12316929&&ref=topbox

    “We are going to have overlapping pandemics all over the world, which will be starting at different times in a staggered way,” he said.

    “So this is a global phenomenon that is going to extend well into next year.”

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    • British friend of a friend flies out from Auckland on 27th to return to Britain so flights are still moving people around the world. She arrived earlier this month to visit her 94 year old father. Luckily she didn’t have the virus. Hope she gets back across the world safely. Must be lots travelling internationally still. Every person who has come over our border in the last 2 months has been at least a threat to our nations safety.

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    • The Commie Cough is just like any other flu. It’s just part of the usual flu eco system. It will get less deadly over time and a vaccine will be developed. Though I’m not sure it will work that well.

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    • Make the most of it, blow the cobwebs and virus away. 🙂

      Raising the health question reminds me of carless days and used to carry another 20 litres of fuel on the bike, as service stations all closed early and some distances were a bit far, particularly when enjoying the ‘blat’.

      Not recommended to trangress but note, “Police have opted to stop organised breathtesting checkpoints in a bid to protect staff and others during the coronavirus pandemic.” that an earlier commentator linked to above.
      More of a danger to a motorcyclist is the other vehicle driver.

      We will understand when the news comes out about an elderly motorcyclist, fleeing the police. …… 🙂

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  50. Little bullies feeling the power.

    …… Health Minister Greg Hunt told reporters in Melbourne that local councils needed to ensure people were observing health and safety measures.

    “What happened in Bondi was unacceptable and the local council must take steps to stop that occurring,” Hunt said. …….
    ……. It’s unclear how long the beach will be closed for.
    https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/bondi-beach-to-close-after-hundreds-seen-ignoring-social-distancing-guidelines-c-755849

    Just typical, so every one has to pay the price and be made to comply.

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  51. I received this today, from someone who worked in the Health sector a couple of years ago.

    When the “virus” broke, why was it that the majority of NZ interns (rmo’s) voted to stay away from hospital. Granted, this was “squashed” media wise pretty quickly (within a day).

    In Europe they were the first to have leave revoked, and retired MD’s offered services.

    You can see that it’s everyone for themselves here and likely they were “chip” bargaining.

    NB: The biggest complaint from the consultants and attending surgeons (Dr Geoffrey Robinson former CMO CCDHB) is not that we dont have enough Dr’s, we have too many. It is that 80% of them specialise (their internship) in mental health because there is no accountability and easy money, and no performance metrics/measures.

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  54. Country music legend Kenny Rogers has died, aged 81
    19:44, Mar 21 2020

    Oh no.
    Country music legend Kenny Rogers has died, aged 81.

    His family announced on Saturday that Rogers died “peacefully at home from natural causes under the care of hospice and surrounded by his family”.

    He lived in Georgia, in the United States.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/120471497/country-music-legend-kenny-rogers-has-died-aged-81

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQW7I62TNOw

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  55. NZ Every bar, restaurant customer must sign in under hospitality coronavirus guidelines
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/03/every-bar-restaurant-customer-must-sign-in-under-hospitality-coronavirus-guidelines.html

    while in Britain.
    UK shuts down cafes, pubs, cinemas in attempt to stem spread of coronavirus
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/uk-shuts-down-cafes-pubs-cinemas-in-attempt-stem-spread-coronavirus?auto=6143604169001

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  57. .

    Posted up in the Ruby Princess nest.
    It is all behind a pay wall.
    Absolutely unbelievable~! ! !
    Some people should be swinging over this criminal act.
    On google search
    https://www.google.com/search?q=A+cruise+ship+that+docked+in+Sydney+with+four+confirmed+cases+of+COVID-19+on+Thursday+had+previously+been+sailing+with+158+sick+passengers+on+board+%E2%80%94+including+13+with+high+temperatures+%E2%80%94+who+disembarked+at+Circular+Quay+before+the+vessel+left+for+New+Zealand+with+nearly+4,000+on+board.&rlz=1C1GGRV_enNZ751NZ751&sxsrf=ALeKk030IAKM3kCBk5DcCq8fTI0v3ao9YQ:1584772636324&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjAsqaQ-qroAhXkzzgGHZVSDcgQ_AUoAXoECAgQAw&biw=768&bih=375

    Coronavirus: Ruby Princess cruise ship allowed to dock in …
    The Australian-1 hour ago

    A cruise ship that docked in Sydney with four confirmed cases of COVID-19 on Thursday had previously been sailing with 158 sick passengers on board — including 13 with high temperatures — who disembarked at Circular Quay before the vessel left for New Zealand with nearly 4,000 on board. The Ruby Princess, …..
    ——————————————
    ~ Sydney port officials told there was no one sick on Ruby Princess cruise ship despite 158 passengers reporting ill
    ~ Sick passengers allowed to disembark and potentially spread infection throughout state capital
    ~ At least four passengers tested positive after ship docked in Sydney Harbour
    ~ 2700 new passengers boarded ship following outbreak onboard cruise liner amid accusations of negligence
    ~ Two more COVID-19 cases in the NT traced to Ruby Princess

    This will blow up much more now.

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    • Dopey Germans gave China their bullet-train and solar-panel technology.

      In the late 1940s, Western Allies overdid washing Nazi ideology out of German minds. They didn’t leave enough patriotic pride to fight for national intellectual property rights.

      On the other hand, the Soviet Union’s Red brain washing left the former East Germany a more fertile region than the former West Germany for neo-Nazis.

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  59. https://croakingcassandra.com/

    go look at this chart. Scary shit.

    All this means that one can think of New Zealand and Australia as having been essentially a Common Virus Area – what is mine is yours, and what is yours is mine. Since we haven’t been doing the sort of aggressive mass testing that some have called for – although the pace has stepped up in the last few days – it seems simply irresponsible for the government to be running policy on the presumption that we do not have community out break here. No one can be certain, but the question has to be what is the safer assumption to make decisions on right now. Given the rest of the world, given Australia, given the lags (when you confirm community outbreak you should wish you’d acted a couple of weeks earlier), the only sensible approach now is to assume presence, and act accordingly. But apparently in an interview on Newshub this morning, the government’s chief official on health matters said they were still assuming the opposite, staking a great deal on their view being right.

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    • Yep the swapping of cruise ships around NZ.
      Two more confirmed cases in the Northern Territory have been traced to passengers from the Ruby Princess.
      Who had whose’s back in this?

      That chief official sounded rather bemused about the Ruby Princess at the Press Conference,
      When the ship docked in Wellington actually there were 5 people who were tested for CoVid-19 and those tests were all negative.
      So the effect of the fact that there has subsequently been CoVid-19 +ive tests on it is interesting,       but they were obviously not the people who were tested when that ship was in Wellington.
      https://ysb.co.nz/have-your-say-340/#comment-61224
      Where the top half in italics is copied from what he said.

      It will all come out when down with a timeline.

      Sadly I think other major flare ups will overwhelm and as they say “move on” and “Arn’t we doing well”. “Just believe us”. 🙁
      As in other areas of governing, they expect collateral damage, particularly when it suits their socialist agenda.

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  60. With the Covid-19 at level 2 and the Cindy-20 virus right up against the level 5 stop, I thought it was time to go out and do some panic buying. Pak n Save Albany wasn’t especially busy, although I noticed they had restrictions on quantities of certain bulk items. The only thing they appeared to have run out of was flour so I expect there will be a massive amount of baking going on in the area over the next few weeks.

    Not sure about the Covid-19 but at least there is a good chance to completely eliminate the Cindy-20 in September.

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  61. For Komrade Nasska

    -Catholic Church forgives the sins of worshippers affected by coronavirus
    -Vatican is granting forgiveness to affected people such as patients and doctors
    -Relatives who pray for their sick family members may also be forgiven for sins
    -Conditions include saying prayers and marking celebrations from a distance
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8135569/Catholic-Church-forgives-sins-worshippers-affected-coronavirus.html

    Relatives who care for their sick family members may also be forgiven.
    The conditions include the sick saying a certain number of prayers or following important celebrations from a distance.

    ‘May’ be forgiven .That is not much use.
    Will Catholics lawyer up.
    Secure a letter of dispensation now!

    Here’s an out. If you have been a bastard of a bloke or a kiddy fiddler in the past cuddle up to someone with corona virus.
    Then when it enters your bloodstream- you are forgiven your sins- no matter how much of a bastard you are.

    See, the Catholic church is not stuck in the past.
    Adapting to new situations to make your afterlife bedda.

    With all my past sins I might consider converting.
    hallelujah.
    I have been blind.
    Now I can see.

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  62. Europe is in big trouble. They took in millions of illegal black migrants and now don’t have the economy to support their pets with welfare. They are already rioting and looting.

    I have zero sympathy. Let their cities burn.

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  64. If I were a an evil bastard, and I wanted to cause maximum carnage to a country, for the right amount of money, to please my masters, to whom I have sold my soul to…. what would I do?

    I would do just enough in various positions of governance to maintain relevance, and guarantee myself a lifetime of hierarchical positions in any government.

    I would always be there or thereabouts, in the shadows, to influence all major financial decisions.

    I would grant myself the liberty to remain silent when I wish, and equally, brutally attack those who question me on any decision I make..

    Should things not go my way, I would disrupt, with impunity, the democratic will of the people.

    When my masters beckon, I will sway the will of the people with talk and innuendo of impending doom so as to implement ‘the’ plan.
    Should the cabal want migrants to flow in and out of the country I have infiltrated, I shall pen the signature to the relevant document as hastily as requested and return to witness the consequences of my cunning deeds and also collect my reward.

    As too, should a call to have citizens offshore returned, be they scattered, brimming with plague, or with anger, or with pleads for restitution, or all of these things, I shall comply, just to please my masters.

    I am a King and a Queen maker.
    I am all powerful and have controlled the land surreptitiously and longer than any other.

    Who am I?

    I am The Right Honourable Winston Peters PC MP

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