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  1. Stuff’s analysis reveals that at least two-thirds of the gun-related homicides involved either a .22 rifle or shotgun. Many of those weapons were cut-down or modified. Semi-automatic firearms rarely figured.

    Of the 84 cases where we identified the killer’s licensing status, only 12 were legally permitted to own a gun.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/112559564/the-homicide-report-gives-a-detailed-account-of-gun-violence-in-new-zealand

    Serious analysis.
    along with
    https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2019/the-homicide-report/

    Better than feels that the Col seem to think is science.

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    • Can’t have logic getting in the way of emotions can we? A gun register will be a logistical nightmare for the cops. I’d bet some will even leave the police force over it as it would be an extremely boring and likely impossible task anyway. Practice herding cats on a mountainside first.

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    • Will they keep her? They could make her PM of Australia. we would like that. worst PM ever.

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      • She is after all the most trusted politician in Australia.

        If she takes Mallard with her as her protector it will be a huge win for New Zealand.

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            • It wasn’t her they went to pick up. It was her “husband” being kicked out for “loitering” around some toilet block.

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              • That’s a different trip, he was loitering around the toilet block that time!
                Helens was just after Air NZ bought Ansett and the staff were striking and would not let her plane depart from Sydney!

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      • Better she goes to the UN it’s much further away! Her dumb minstrels can go with her.

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        • Black and white minstrels?used to love watching that show with my Nana. Mind you there was limited choice so I guess you liked what they put on.

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  2. Like so many other homicides in New Zealand alcohol contributed to Cribb’s death.

    It wasn’t the only factor, the speed Vanstone was driving and the poor condition of his vehicle contributed too. But like many other homicides it is hard to conclude the death would have occurred without the presence of alcohol.

    For The Homicide Report we were able to determine that alcohol was a factor in 336 homicides between January 2004 and March 2019, 31 per cent of the total.

    The actual figure is likely to be higher because there are many homicides in which we suspected alcohol played a part but were unable to confirm it.
    https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2019/the-homicide-report/

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  3. This is another example of where Leftists and their inability to think of the consequences of their actions lead to:

    Britain’s billionaires ‘prepare to flee country amid fears Jeremy Corbyn will be next Prime Minister’

    Britain’s wealthiest individuals are preparing to leave the country amid belief Jeremy Corbyn will become Prime Minister, it was reported.

    Billionaires and multimillionaires are said to be making plans to protect their fortunes, which include moving their assets and businesses overseas, in preparation of tax increases should the Labour leader enter Downing Street.

    According to The Sunday Times, which today publishes its annual Rich List, individuals could take up to £1 trillion out of Britain amid fears over what has been dubbed ‘Corbygeddon’.

    The newspaper reported that the head of Coutts, the Queen’s bank, said clients were more concerned with Corbyn than by Brexit and that a tax expert had helped a number of people with a net wealth of more than £500 million, totalling more than £5 billion, leave Britain over the past year.

    Of course many Leftards will cheer this on.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/britains-billionaires-prepare-to-flee-country-amid-fears-jeremy-corbyn-will-be-next-prime-minister/ar-AABfLct?ocid=spartandhp

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    • How could Corbyn be anywhere near this popular in a country like the UK? That is what’s truly scary. Can’t blame the wealthy for getting the hell out of there.

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      • Sadly, the UK has been mismanaged. I’m not sure if I was in the UK that I could vote for the Conservative Party with May at the helm. The degradation of free speech to such an extreme extent has been under her watch.

        It goes to show not every right winger is competent. It’s just a pity that the Left winger in charge of the opposition is such a loony. Perhaps there is a silver lining with a Corbyn reign: he’ll be so bad that maybe, just maybe, the silent majority will rise up and rebel, and get rid of the tyrannical laws.

        (And I’m sure I’m going to get plenty of responses that the incompetent Theresa May isn’t right wing).

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        • Good point- let them have Corbyn and see what a disaster his policies would be. Britain needed a Thatcher to fight the EU over Brexit. That would have been awesome!

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    • Is it like all the leftie snowflakes who threatened to leave the US if Trump was elected ? How many carried out their threat to leave?
      SFA.

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      • The arrogant thing about that is those snowflakes act like they can just emigrate wherever the hell they want, just like their southern neighbours do.

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      • I suspect the reporter was interviewing his keyboard. The facts are that the rich are moving their assets overseas rather than move themselves.

        We saw the same when dumb-dumb Hollande was elected president of France.

        You’re seeing it with the rich Chinese. They’re moving their assets overseas where Xi Jinping cannot pilfer them.

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      • remember the super tax is France? they had to scrap it.

        “this trend of emigration persisted at the macro level as an estimated 2.5 million French citizens now live abroad in the U.K., Belgium and other countries sporting more competitive income tax rates.”

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  4. They probably don’t want to come here any more. Where will they go? Or just their money

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    • I suspect they’ll move their assets overseas. I doubt NZ will see much of it, as we’re a stupidly high tax country.

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      • But still, where does one go? We need to fight for our country, it is no less a war, just because one hasn’t been officially declared. Buggered if I am going gently into the night.

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  5. One last reminder of the meeting in Te Awamutu RSA to hear from Barbara Kuriger and Chris Bishop about changes to firearm laws. The address is 381 Alexandra Street, Te Awamutu. It starts at 6:30 this evening. I see no reason why other topics like the OTT action of the police in pointing their guns at 12 year old girl in a firearm confiscation. Free speech is also another topic. Someone, of course, could ask about lawnmowers. A number of National MPs are aware of this but none would say anything publicly.

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    • If you know they know, what makes you think they will say anything about it at a meeting?

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      • They won’t but it could be fun to ask. I do not think all know or want to believe the sad truth. Some definitely know and have said so to me off the record.

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      • I am sure they won’t but as I don’t think the party is listening perhaps there needs to be some actual noise.

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        • So in the name of ‘in for a penny, in for a pound’ I am now on facebook with Tim McIndoe, Louise Upston, David Bennet and Barbara Kuriger and i guess I will go find Tim van de Molen as well as I might as well know what is happening around the Waikato.

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            • lol ah well if I am going to get off my arse and have an opinion, I might as well spread it around. David Bennett I have met at Uni events, I have met Louise and I have asked her Taupo office to help a constituent before, Tim McIndoe I went to Uni with and I have tentacles over Tim van de Molens way as well, Barbara is actually my MP and I think I have said hello but is hello enough any more? Can’t get anything resembling the truth from the msm, I might as well hear the other side of the argument.

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    • Chuck, be sure to remind these Nats that you voted for Winston First 20 months ago and could easily do so again next year; or vote for Cindy if she has a really, really nice wedding with a pretty (free) dress!

      Anti gun ownership, anti free speech, pro islam National:- as hard on action as an al dente noodle.
      A single oyster has more iron that the whole National party.

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      • howitis or whatever your name is the Nat MPs are aware that I voted NZF. Instead of telling me to piss off they asked why. The intelligent thing to do is find out why people voted NZF so they might counter if in the 2020 election. Do you support any party? ACT and the New Conservatives are alternatives. If you do not support any party you are just a windbag. Why not show up at the meeting and and tell the Nat MPs or me why you think face to face?

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  6. I saw three buses (with passenger hiding tinted windows) yesterday in the space of 3 minutes all going in different directions here in Tauranga yesterday at 4pm.
    Each one had only one person in it – the driver.

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    • If it’s like Christchurch then not only were they empty, but they had special lanes and light phases all to themselves.

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      • She could increase the number of empty buses. One driver for each ethnic group (except any European of course). That way they’ll get equal representation and help lower employment…paid for by the ever generous ratepayers of Tauranga.

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      • Mmm..I quite liked the cut of Tenby Powell’s gib, when he announced his candidacy for the mayoral job….then I found his twitter feed…now I am not so sure where he sits on the spectrum..a bit of work to do for me now….sigh…

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  7. I heard a funny noise in my shed, so I called the police.
    “Hello”, I said, “I think someone is in my shed stealing stuff”.
    “Do you have anything valuable in the shed”, the controller asked.
    “Well, just my tools, the kids bike and the lawn mower.” I said.
    “Sorry”, she said, “we’ve got no one available at the moment. Someone will be with you in the morning” and hung up.
    Five minutes later I rang back. “Hello, I rang earlier about someone in my shed, don’t worry about it now, I’ve just shot him”.
    Within 10 minutes the area was crawling with coppers, helicopters and dog handlers. After catching the bloke the Sergeant came up to me.
    “Oi. You told us you shot the burglar, but he’s alive and well.”
    “Yeh? And you told me you had no one available”

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  8. To be clear here with all my posts about the police not performing as we would expect them to: I am not having a go at the cops we see in our daily lives. My attacks are aimed at the chief plod and all his lackeys who go along with his useless performance at the behest of the COL.

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  9. Lol, Paddy Gower, ‘special investigator’ has been madly googling “New Zealand’s underbelly of white supremacy”. Obviously, there are a small percentage of the population with views who go too far and communicate on the web. My concern is it is Paddy Gower who imagines everyone with an alternative view to him is a radical that must be banned from our godzone shores and sees “white supremacists under the bed”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTSSmLySzpc

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    • We saw that attitude when Gower had his arse handed to him by Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux. He admitted as such…and even flubbed the soft question his comrades gave him in an effort to redeem himself.

      If I had the money, I’d like to finance those two back, just to see Gower run for the hills.

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      • Yes, the attachment of Paddy on ‘The Project’ trying to claim back the high ground after completely being unprepared and bringing his bias to interview Molyneux and Southern. How anyone can see Gower as competent and continue to employ him is beyond comprehension.

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    • A couple of overseas views of Chipmunk Gower from last August’s ‘have a paddy’ train wreck and analysis of Gower’s pathetic attempt of ‘being right’… oops I mean, being correct .
      Chipmunk is certainly never right and always smelly left from a left leaning perpetual loss-making TV channel.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGSfHIPnupY
      What We Learned from Lauren & Stefan’s Australia / NZ Tour

      27 minutes from ‘computing forever’ an Irish guy.
      He has near 400,000 followers/subscribers. The post has 134,000 views with 11,000 upticks and nearly 4000 comments.
      See esp. 16 minute mark.

      Plus
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2co68CYn6bU
      BRUTAL! Stefan Molyneux & Lauren Southern DESTROY Patrick Gower Interview (Body Language Breakdown)

      14 minutes long from The Charisma Matrix
      280,0000 subscribers and 263,000 views with nearly 3000 comments

      I know a few fuckwits and they are waaay bedda people than Patrick Gower.

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      • I too know plenty of those and I bet they are all different lol. I saw him in Wellington when I went to present the Moko petition to Parliament, outside Te Papa of all places. Doesn’t look any different in person. A lot of good Moko’s petition was.

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    • Wow, I’ve read this article: https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/its-online-its-in-our-homes-its-people-we-know-patrick-gower-on-white-supremacy/ar-AABgq8n?ocid=spartandhp

      It reads as though he’s find white supremacists in every nook and cranny. Under his pillow, under his bed, using his shower, in the backseat of his car and just everywhere.

      “It is way bigger than anybody thought. It is actually huge.”

      “I believe that’s just a fraction of New Zealanders who are into white supremacy,” he told Garner.

      “It’s online, it’s in our homes it’s people we know.”

      https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/its-online-its-in-our-homes-its-people-we-know-patrick-gower-on-white-supremacy/ar-AABgq8n?ocid=spartandhp

      What a fruit-loop.

      I wonder if Gower also thinks Candace Owens is a white supremacist? I know RationalWiki listed her as such for a while…and still lists her as alt-right (just checked). Candace Owens is a nutty alt-right commentator and rising star of the young conservative movement. He’s batshit crazy enough from his recent frothings at the mouth.

      (Owens is a black women for those not in the know).

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      • Didn’t find one in the mirror then. What sort of person disrespects their own culture. If I ever went to prison would I be rehabilitated by being immersed in my European Culture?

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    • The media’s constant lies and half truths hurts democracy. Fake news has never bothered them in the past.

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        • Campbell makes no apologies for this style of advocacy journalism, rather than straight news coverage, campaigning for the underdog, with his trademark heart- on-your-sleeve, we’re-all-in-this-together- New-Zealand style. It’s an approach that divides audiences.

          “I think that’s our point of difference,” Campbell, 48, says.

          “Isn’t it funny, I’ve never met a journalist who didn’t want to change the world and make it a better place. And without exception, that’s why they get into journalism. And yet when they get there, they are asked to be dispassionate and objective. Who came up with that rule?

          John Campbell, 2013. Only, he’s deluded into thinking he’s unique amongst journalists.

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    • It equates to “Damn it if we can’t have total control of what the public has access to” That has been tried in history before. You can spot these people a mile away.

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    • Thanks for joining in. FYI in the month we have been up, no one has seen fit to use the Report button. This shows how self moderating we are.
      Long may it continue.

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    • There’s only one problem- I should be working! Self-employed gotta keep motivated. YSB is great 🙂

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  10. YSB continues to climb up the Alex Toolbar rankings to 3,437.
    I’m still hoping the Herald starts to fall below its current number 10

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  11. Ramadan has begun. Cue the slaughter of innocent people all in the name of a long-dead Paedophile.

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    • My ‘fuse’ gets very short when my blood sugar is low and that only takes a few hours. Maybe Cindy should look at Ramadan not being healthy and ban it! ?

      Wikipedia: “Ramadan is the ninth month of the Islamic calendar, and is observed by Muslims worldwide as a month of fasting to commemorate the first revelation of the Quran to Muhammad according to Islamic belief. This annual observance is regarded as one of the Five Pillars of Islam. The month lasts 29–30 days based on the visual sightings of the crescent moon, according to numerous biographical accounts compiled in the hadiths.”

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        • Just make sure you eat them before sunset for maximum points..

          I do know a Muslim that treats Ramadan much like Catholics in the West treat Lent…highly compromised. That person won’t drink wine or coffee from sunrise to sunset but I believe anything else is fair game.

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        • I just purchased a kg of off cuts from a roll of bacon. A fair amount will be my tea tonight along with eggs, toms and halved avocados ( I buy them frozen.)

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    • Any non-leftie trying to bring facts to this discussion on Facebook will understand how true it is. The left are armed and dangerous on social media and will track people down offline to harass them. Just look at what happened after 15 March, with people losing their jobs and plod now visiting people who hold non-left views.

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  12. Cindy did not mean to see the CC video, it poped up on her internt feed?
    She’s telling lies again, she would need training wheels on her big hooter!
    How thick can she be, bullshit artist extraordar!
    Does she ever tell the truth?

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    • I would be appalled if the Prime Minister did not watch the video in order to know what actually happened.

      Of course, she had to be a lying piece of shit about it.

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    • On a more serious reply, no, it will be part of the narrative that she wants to spin.

      She’ll want to use this “example” on how evil social media is, since watching this video even accidentally is like breathing air – “it’s just everywhere and it is impossible not to see it”. Social media will then need a Left wing censor to regulate them.

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      • “Ummm, no.” It might have been posted in the wrong place but that was a great answer to Colinxy’s comment: “Social media will then need a Left wing censor to regulate them.” “Ummm, NO!”

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  13. From our friends at Hobsons Pledge.

    “Gangs, patches, and one law for all”

    Fifty years of Government appeasement of gangs, especially Maori, came to the summit of Te Mata Peak near Hastings last Saturday when the Mongrel Mob in full regalia held a ritual as the public were excluded and the police did traffic duty. Gang members were heard barking like dogs and shouting “sieg f***ing heil”.

    Hastings councillor Damon Harvey said that the disruption by the Mongrel Mob “was unacceptable”.

    Police said the road was only closed to cars that were turned around for safety concerns.

    Police also said that they were “taking this matter seriously and will be meeting with council, iwi and the Te Mata Trust to discuss Saturday’s event and the appropriate planning and response around any future events of a similar nature”.

    Mongrel Mob spokesman Rex Timu, who played the race card when he said that “Rongokako [Te Mata Peak] is our ancestor”, said that the ceremony had to be held on a Saturday afternoon because many of their members had to work “night shift”.

    His “peak ancestor” assertion also featured in last year’s wrangle over iwi sensibilities being hurt when Craggy Range winery cut a walking track on their land up the eastern slope of the peak.

    Appeasement of gangs, a policy of making concessions to avoid conflict, has been going on in New Zealand at least since 1975, when Prime Minister Robert Muldoon engaged gangs in government-subsidised work schemes to keep people from a life of crime.

    Despite the work schemes, the gangs have grown exponentially and now the Mongrel Mob, a Maori gang, has four chapters in Hastings, which is unprecedented in New Zealand for a city of 80,000.

    The reason for a big Mob population there is because Corrections sends most Mobsters to the Hawke’s Bay Regional Prison. That brings their families to Hastings, which is also where inmates stay upon release.

    The one-law-for-all approach would be to extend the Prohibition of Gang Insignia in Government Premises Act 2013, which involves a $2000 fine and destruction of insignia, to all public places, targeting all gangs — Black Power, White Power, Mongrel Mob, Tribesmen, Head Hunters, Hell’s Angels, Comancheros, and so on.

    Then the police would have been able to do more than traffic duty when the Mongrel Mob excluded the public from Te Mata Peak last week.

    Are gangs a special minority group. See https://www.whaleoil.net.nz/2019/05/are-gangs-are-a-special-minority-group/

    Why another $98m race-based prison programme?
    A new $98 million Maori Pathways programme, announced on Friday, is the Government’s latest effort to lower the rates of Maori incarceration and recidivism.

    The justification is that Maori, who make up just 15 percent of the general population, make up more than 50 percent of the prison population, and 62 percent of the high security prison population.

    Maori Pathways is for Maori men under 30 and involves immersing inmates in Maori culture and involving their families through their incarceration and release.

    It will be rolled out initially at Hawke’s Bay Regional Prison and Northland Region Corrections Facility

    The programme is yet another “for Maori” prison programme of which around 20 have existed since 1995. That Maori offending remains a hot issue implies such programmes lack effectiveness.

    The programme assumes that the offender’s family is a positive influence but in many cases the family influence is negative.

    We have already suggested that the apparently large number of Maori offenders would shrink substantially if a definition of being Maori required ancestry of at least 50 per cent Maori.

    Our view is that since prisons are full of offenders, any programme to reduce offending should be for all offenders, not just those of a certain race.”

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    • Please Mr ‘entitled gang leader’, will you please not show up the NZ police and how subservient they have become to you.

      If being subservient to the gangs since 1975 is supposed to change their behaviour – it IS NOT WORKING!

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  14. Read Martin van Beynen’s article in the weekend r.e the armed cops showing up for “discussions” on people doorsteps, from memory the original transcript had them asking about their view on Islam guns etc, the bit that stood out was Martins failing to add in one question they asked and surprisingly enough it was their feelings on our dear comrade leader, of course i would never question a journos integrity as they repeatedly shown they have sfa when it comes to their personal ideologies, a rather deceitful omission i believe but par for the course under this regime and their sycophantic media pals

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  15. The never independent media are taking a position to support Toothy’s stance for social media control.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/112654576/deluge-of-online-abuse-leads-to-closure-of-tasman-pony-business

    Headline:
    “Deluge of online abuse leads to closure of Tasman pony business”

    Text
    “The owner of a pony trekking farm left distraught after a torrent of online abuse plans to close her business.
    The ordeal began last Sunday evening..” blah blah

    At the end of this biased and possibly fabricated ‘story’ they post:-
    …If you have had a similar experience with social media you’d like to share please email us at newsdesk@nelsonmail.co.nz

    They are essentially advocates for shutting down social media- the competition.
    Well I never!
    Social media is competition for the tired old MSM and social media companies have already eaten their lunch re: the advertising dollar.
    President Donald J Trump has already hit a home run by getting around media lies with direct use of Twitter.

    This is self advocacy masquerading as news by the Channel Nine Australia subsidiary.
    Timed nicely for Toothy’s anti-social media jaunt to meet 6 people in Paris.

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    • At least the taxpayers are getting some of our money back. That’s the stone cold truth of it.

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    • The taxpayer should not be expected to supplement the cost of individuals own unfortunate spending choices. If they choose to waste their income then that is their outlook.
      Somehow I doubt that is the way entitlement works…

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      • I’m guilty of vaping, having kicked cigarettes 4 years ago. I’m still a nicotine addict, but I pay for it myself. I hate that crybaby shit! I’m not asking anybody to support my “habit”. I’d appreciate a situation where I don’t have to support yours.

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  16. That stupid cow is now giving each person who whitnessed the moque shooting $12thou.
    There is going to be a shitload after this windfall! Open slather, first in, best dressed!
    Even less money for doctors, nurses and teachers!

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      • They use an algorithm based on the average skin shade of the witnesses multiplied by their breeding record, squared by the likelihood of them voting Labour plus a feelgood factor measured in sales of next months Womens Weekly featuring the Mother of the Nations Baby on the cover.

        Glad I could help!

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      • …..”I was traumatised. Can I claim my $12 k?”…..

        In this brave new age feelz beats facts!

        You’ll shit in!

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        • I hope they are going to validate the claims for $12k that pour out of the woodwork? The woman who was in the traffic and the middle of shooting who administered help in the middle of the road should get more than others watching from a distance. No one is ever happy about the fairness of money being doled out to individuals for causes.

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        • My cat was watching with me. Can I claim for it as well?
          The sight of all that blood was too much for it.
          Had to go to the vet for counselling.
          It hasn’t been the same since.

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          • No! “Not a traumatised Pussy! That’s terrible having a Pussy that needs counselling. I hope you give it a big hug and a kiss….

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      • No because the government doesn’t believe in giving you any of your own money back.

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        • What if he bullshit’s a little & gives his name as Mohammed Hollysheet?

          That’ll do the trick! 🙂

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      • Jesus… don’t give Cindy ideas….. she inadvertently watched the video for about 15 minutes.

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        • How does our Prime Minister get time to accidentally watch vid clips on social media, when the country is dealing with the aftermath of a mass shooting?
          Didn’t she have to go headscarf shopping, feed her baby, cuddle some victims families, write an article for NYT, draft tighter gun laws, or something?

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  17. Just wait till muslims start attacks here in NZ.
    What will the touchy feely sickly white liberals do then?

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    • There are always opportunists out there and payouts is no deterrent. More unintended consequences by this thick bunch of morons in charge?

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    • “Touchy feely sickly white liberals” will still blame Whitey. They are that f*cked up! No hope for them.

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  18. With the possible exception of acting as a charity paying millions to thousands of otherwise unemployable executives barely fit to warm chairs Fonterra has once again proved that it’s tits at everything it touches.

    They have sold the iconic TipTop brand to a European consortium which includes Nestles. Expect ice cream made from palm oil & deodorised mutton fat flavoured with artificial anything in a supermarket freezer near you soon.

    Thank the mythical deity that I dodged the bullet of owning a dairy farm. Had I suffered that misfortune I would be with fellow dairy cockies advancing on Fonterra HQ carrying pitchforks & ropes!

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    • Don’t worry! Think of all the genuine kiwi firms jobs that they are protecting by this sell out to big bussiness. Best thing ever for small ice cream manufactures. Just thing of nestles, changing the formula.

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    • Don’t worry think of all the jobs saved in all the rest of nz’s small icecream factorys.
      They are really going to be creaming it!

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    • Fonterra sells Tip top icecream offshore to a Nestle JV.
      I guess they may have avoided Danone to whom they finally had to pay $183 million settlement for the botulism that was not botulism and Danone changed their supplier away from Fonterra- double loss.
      The little old half billion loss over Beingmate was another recent hit.
      This of course came from farmers equity.
      No hit on the Fonterra salarymen swanning about on Auckland’s viaduct harbour.

      It is great to see Fonterra getting rid of those pesky value-add elements and concentrating on its brown bag operations of selling milk powder.
      Let the others make money from value add.

      I would have thought a small cap float for Tip Top was a possibility but these are not really happening in NZ.
      It looks like Vodafone, despite talking a listing for a few years, will be a private sale.

      I’ve been buying Moores icecream for years now. Generally under the brand of Much Moore.
      Beautiful stuff. Tip top was fine but this is bedda. Try the Cookies and Cream.

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  19. Are rumours allowed on this blog? It’s just that KB have developed a fear of”Fomenting Happy Mischief” and I do like the Clarke with an “E” for Emirates and lawnmowers rumours and it Wood be nice if the Labour sex instructor was remembered on a daily basis….. Lest Silly Little Cindy forgets…

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  20. And from tonight’s edition of Ask the Imam:

    Is it still classed as bestiality if the goat is dead?

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  21. Helen Clark saying that Cindys doing the right thing in Paris and all the pretty people will be there!
    But remember this you old hag, you are not! HAAA HAAAAA! Read this and weep!

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  22. It would seem that even with a longer time frame that the gun bill would have essentially been the same, having just got home from listening to Chris Bishop and Barbara Kuriger, I was very disappointed with Nationals attitude to the rural voter. NZ first’s supporters need to get into Winston’s ear to vary the fun laws, because National is tits but they might support NZ First in this if enough pressure is applied on them both. (My words)

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    • Thanks Racheal for your report.
      Sadly I am not surprised..

      Love your idea of the “fun laws” 😉 and I figure that is why a special exemption had to be allowed for “paint ball guns” 🙂
      Probably exemption for all those “gamer” shootings too. 🙂

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