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  1. So a teacher writes an open letter to the Prime Minister.
    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/04/18/1133040/a-teachers-open-letter-to-jacinda-ardern

    I get that she’s pretty upset, and not unreasonably fearful of the WuFlu, but having been sent home ON FULL PAY the lip-curling in regard to ‘her parents’ wanting to get back to paid employment is a bit rich:

    “ …I will not ‘pop’ my bubble so people can get back to making money.”
    “I am being told to risk my health, possibly my life, to babysit so people can get back to making money.”

    To use the woman’s own passive aggressive phrasing: “ I’m sorry but “ if she feels that strongly about it then resigning might be her best option. Although I might warn her having no income might alter her perspective.

    [And maybe Queen Victoria was still alive when I went to school, but I don’t recall ever being cuddled by a teacher – or wishing to be. How about for the sake of hygiene teachers take their hands off the kids and stop creating snowflakes.]

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      • Unlike others I have some sympathy for her situation.
        Forget about your biases and the money and put yourself in her shoes.
        Her extrapolating of the contact numbers should make you aware of the potential for this to get out of hand.

        Looking at the other posts you would have to be brain dead not to realize this just is not a simple winter cold.
        Yes these things have been around before but each time they are getting more virulent.

        We only need to look at the measles earlier this year to see the damage of that simple virus and it hangs around in your system for the rest of your life. (like Malaria does.)

        And more importantly it our Govt. (both foolish lots) that bought into our lives the regime of Health and Safety. How can any school authority meet the workplace tests required under Heath and Safety.
        My workplace is reasonably open with lots of space but we have customers and we all have “contacts” but we cannot guarantee we can meet that test.
        Unless Cindy wants to nullify the H & S around this then employers need to be rather careful I suggest.
        The Nazi’s are out there and it won’t take them any prompting to vilify employers.

        Social distancing is mildly effective, as you will learn if you read this article :
        https://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/240164-virologist-on-latest-covid19-science.html

        I too want to get back to work as do my staff. We need to build a safe room somehow.

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        • Quite right, Viking. I read most of the letter nodding in agreement – until I got to that particular phrase at the end, used twice for emphasis.
          I am fortunate to be reasonably well installed at home work wise, and I will take as much time as I possibly can before I send my precious person back to school.
          Teachers are sitting ducks for infection, so like everyone else, they must change the way they work.
          One good thing that may come from this is the education systems over-reliance on collaboration. If we get back to one desk per student and doing your work for and by yourself, we’ll all be much better off.
          Teachers chant the mantra there is no “I” in team, but overlook the five in Individual Brilliance.

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    • I am a teacher. My problem is that it is impossible to maintain social distancing with children. The younger they are the less hygiene aware they are. They will be sitting in close proximity for 5 hours, breathing the same air, and touching the same surfaces. It is no coincidence that the largest cluster in Auckland occurred at a school. It is pointless reducing the transmission rate as we have for it to suddenly explode again. Further the good weather we have had is ending. Normal flu season will be kicking in. I fear we are not over this. However, I would argue for less restrictions in terms of where we can travel, and what shops can be opened. Neither of these two issues increase the chance of transmission. Opening schools will. My problem with her letter is that it is too emotive, but the substance is in fact correct. (The other good thing is it shows that Jacinda Fairy Dust is starting to diminish among a huge group of core Labourites….. )

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      • Well teachers are emotive people often and you know the old sales saying.
        Emotion opens the mind, logic opens the cheque book.

        Logic in this case supports other ways of teaching as the uni in Waikato has suddenly discovered.
        Finally. they now realise that they don’t need to have in house students they just need to be able to teach on line.

        Taken them a longtime.
        Thanks Mr Joyce for our great Fibre to the house.

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      • Yes, RoL the letter is too emotive and it seems the writer has a whole lot of other issues to deal with which would, dare I say it, impact on her effective teaching of young children anyway.
        Maybe she should take a longer break from school life and try some other work. Outdoor work where social distancing is easier. Apple and other fruit harvesting time is on and there will be few temporary migrant workers coming in to do it. In recent times, fruit harvesting has been beneath the dignity of most NZer’s for a variety of reasons, but times have changed.
        Having said that, I wouldn’t put any money on this woman doing anything different to what she is currently. Her choice.

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  2. It really is time for NZ to de-fund the World Health Organisation – will globalist Cindy meet the challenge?

    Now that it is increasingly clear that the World Health Organisation is just another evil globalist bad actor – in this case one that is clearly corrupted and is covering for China’s appalling behaviour over Chinese Virus – NZ must stop paying our contribution and use the money to benefit New Zealanders.

    Especially when the latest report from the WHO on their finances show that little itty bitty NZ is fully paid up and the evil CCP empire is nearly $28 million owing to the WHO! If you observe how WHO officials cover for China at every step and spout Chinese Communist party doctrine whenever they’re asked a question – you’d have to ask yourself “Why are those fuckers covering for China by trashing their organisation’s international reputation when China hasn’t fulfilled one cent of it’s contributions?” – and the only rational conclusion you can reach is that China is making contributions alright – straight into the pockets of greedy WHO officials. Have a look at this fucker Canadian Bruce Aylward – WHO spokespeson – toeing the Chinese Communist party line on Taiwan – this is what evil and corrupt looks like!

    Small wonder the Don is pulling US contributions! Why the fuck would you continue to support an utterly corrupt organisation when the enemy (yes the enemy – CCP) is not meeting their funding obligations.

    I know NZ’s contribution to WHO is only US$690k – but we are moving forward to a future where every cent that can be spent on re-building our economy and our society is going to make a difference – why oh why would we continue to support the dodgy globalists who were supposed to prevent this happening when they did exactly the opposite and enabled it?

    Hard to think of why you wouldn’t defund the WHO – unless of course Comrade Cindy really is in the pay of the Chinese government – like the US security services think she is!

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  3. An inconvenient Climate Hysteria truth!

    So how the fuck is this possible? Even though the world is in global pandemic shutdown, with:
    – in effect statistically zero cars compared to pre-lock down
    – basically zero air travel
    – factories more or less all shut down.

    CO2 is still increasing steadily through the shutdown period – and we have a new global high 418ppm CO2?

    It’s not possible!

    Unless CO2 change is natural and independent of global industrial activity and hydrocarbon consumption?

    Unless our governments are lying to us.

    Unless the IPCC is full of expert lying Chinese Communist party-funded criminals.

    It looks like Greta is just a very stupid, ill-educated, little girl puppet with a mental illness after all.

    Unless this isn’t NZ’s “nuclear-free moment” after all and it’s just doing the bidding of “somebody’s” Chinese Communist Party paymasters and George Soros.

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  4. Last week the Comrade and the government strongly hinted that the lock down was going to lifted!
    So the peasantry has got itchy feet and is kicking up the traces.
    How many are going to do a sneaky this weekend.
    If they do open the gate this week, will the peasants swarm out for KFC and coffee?
    Will they be wanting to be going shopping aswell is the question?
    Me, I want the building supermarket opened up, so I can finish projects that are half finished!

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  5. Each day, media are report on the numbers of deaths from Covid-19. For example, “Yesterday there were 852 deaths in the UK.”
    That’s it. No context. Just “deaths.”

    What kind of information could the media give us that would help us to get the deaths into perspective?

    At the very least, I would like to know the median age of the deceased and a “healthy” vs. “unhealty” proportion, where “healthy ” = having a BMI of less than 25 and no pre-existing medical ailments.
    The new reporting style would be like this: “Yesterday there were 852 deaths in the UK. The median age was 65. The proportion of healthy was 6%.”

    Would that kind of reporting shine a light to allow you to judge the government’s policies more clearly?

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    • Not only that we need to know how other mortality causes are tracking. For example if the numbers dying of annual seasonal ‘flu are down by 852 (cf previous years) then we know that all that is happening is a replacement of one type of the ‘flu with another! Also we need to track overall population mortality rates for this year vs previous years. Also we need to know about the consequential health effects of the insane lock down – is domestic abuse on the rise, are there an increase in the suicide rate, are bankruptcies on the rise, is individual/family/household debt rising? What are hospital occupancy rates at the moment vs over the past 5 years? We need targetted price inflation information – I seem to be seeing approximately 10-15% price rises on all supermarket goods at the moment (isn’t that profiteering off of misery?)

      Although the main thing I’m interested in is when we will our Parliamentary democracy be returned – I don’t like living in a dictatorship. We all know that once dictators take power – they hardly ever give it up unless it’s at the point of a gun!

      (I wonder why stoopid Cindy had such an incredible hard-on for gun control – know the objective, understand the actions from the past!)

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      • Have to get rid of MMP before any return to Democracy.

        Half of the, (not our) MPs are appointed.

        Peters and Sage on 7% electorate votes meaning they are nor wanted by 93% of their own electorate..

        NZ Democracy is dead.

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          • I share commenters’ general dislike for MMP but we didn’t end up with it by accident:

            1) For some reason out of all the other, more sane, alternatives it floated to the top of the list of options. I don’t know why but it was a democratic process.

            2) The general public by 1994 had a gutsful of FPP under which we elected a National or Labour as government & all other options were effectively extinguished.

            We get nostalgic for FPP because it didn’t have the fishhooks of the current system but time has dimmed the memories of the utter arrogance of the then political parties who treated voters with bare faced lies & contempt.

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            • Oh what I wouldn’t give to go back to 1994…
              I was young and single, Flatting at Otago Varsity, Listening to Soundgarden and Nirvana…Oh the memories!
              Who knew then that a Mormon High School kid named Jacinda was plotting to collapse the entire fucking Country?…And that we would be stupid enough to let her?

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            • If you look back at the election results that caused such outrage – National were elected to power with around 2000 votes less than Labour.

              Fast forward to 2017 and we have a Labour party dictatorship (with parliament suspended that is what it is) and National got TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND votes more than Labour.

              If all the reasons for getting MMP in were true then, then they are a hundred times more valid now about MMP.

              Modern left-wing fascism loves PR – this is how I know it is evil. I will take FPP or the US electoral college approach over PR any day.

              The US founding fathers had it so right, they described straight democracy as mob rule – where 51% can take away everyone else’s rights. Those guys had just gotten finished with over-throwing tyrants and they had a much more nuanced view about what is good for people than the lunatic Bolger and the Pravda mainstream media that campaigned so one-sidedly for MMP.

              For me – the simple fact that a cynical monster like Winston Peters has been allowed to decide upon who governs us just about every election is a sign that MMP is a cancer.

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            • Yep, maybe so Nasska..
              But, what we have now is a lot of list time servers and single issue opportunists – most of whom are totally unsuited to national (with a small n) governance.
              And even worse, there is no accountability for their actions, or lack thereof, to the electorate.
              Being a list MP must be the easiest, best paying job in NZ. All you have to ensure is that you keep in good with the party bosses and their funders and it’s all sweet.
              They don’t have to care about, or be bothered by the voters because they don’t have to front up at the ballot box next time.

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    • A report in my proposed format for deaths in New Zealand would be something like:

      “In the past month there have been 11 deaths in NZ. The median age has been 80. The proportion of healthy has been 0%.”

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  6. At school one day, Little Johnny’s teacher asks the class to use the word “contagious” in a sentence…
    Cindy raises her hand. “Yes, Cindy?”
    She answers, “I was at the dentist’s office with my mom, and she said not to play with the toys in the waiting room because the other kids were contagious.”
    “Very good, Cindy!” the teacher said, “Anyone else want to try?”
    Samantha raises her hand. “Yes, Samantha?”
    She answers, “My dad tells me not to yawn because then everybody else yawns. He says yawning is contagious.”
    “Excellent work, Samantha! Very creative,” the teacher praises.
    “Okay, one more volunteer.” Little Johnny raises his hand. “Yes, Johnny?”
    “Well,” he says, “I was helping my dad in the yard last week, and we saw the neighbor painting his house. He was using a small brush, so I asked my dad, ‘Daddy, why is he using such a small brush?’ and he says, ‘I don’t know son, but it’s gonna take that contagious.’”

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  7. The real problem with this thirty day free trial we are suffering through is, how much are Cindy and Robbo going to hammer us for in postage and handling when everyone realises it’s Chinese junk that’s not fit for purpose and won’t work in this country?

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  8. Coronavirus: Queen Elizabeth cancels birthday celebrations for the first time ever
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/04/coronavirus-queen-elizabeth-cancels-birthday-celebrations-for-the-first-time-ever.html

    Britain’s Queen Elizabeth will not celebrate her 94th birthday in any special way and has asked that there be no gun salutes to mark the occasion because it would not be appropriate while the country battles a deadly coronavirus outbreak.

    Britain is at or near the peak of an outbreak in which more than 14,000 people have already died – the fifth highest national death toll of a pandemic linked to at least 150,000 deaths worldwide.

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  9. NZ’s small fruit and vegetable growers under the crunch during lockdown

    It’s estimated up to a third of fruit and vegetables being grown around the country have no way of being sold under lockdown.
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/content/tvnz/onenews/story/2020/04/18/small-fruit-and-vegetable-growers-under-the-crunch-during-lockdo.html?auto=6150458848001

    With their usual outlets closed, it’s an issue facing smaller growers who don’t have supermarket contracts.

    The month without takeaway or a stroll around the farmers’ market has meant a huge loss of income for smaller growers.

    Tomato grower Lu Zheng relies on the extra he earns from selling direct.

    Horticulture New Zealand says around 20 to 30 per cent of fruit and vegetable crops have no way to get to customers during the Level 4 lockdown.

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  10. The biggest loss to us during this Covid-19 epidemic has been reason. There is no longer an interest in rationality, facts or even trying to discover them.

    I was having a conversation with Miss Aspeling, a Health Student on the New Zealand Social Riders group. It was a poll on the likely restrictions during Level 3 that was largely trending towards Judith Collins’ “Level 4, but with KFC”. I mentioned that our Level 4 lock-down was overdone and was immediately countered with “completely disagree. not overdone”

    You guys know me, hopefully well enough to know that it’s a challenge I can’t refuse. She was completely un-interested in the reality of how much better Australia is doing than us, in how much worse our economic outlook was, in the failures our government had in not pulling in that draw-bridge when they had the opportunity.

    Comment came back: “Thanks, didn’t read the link. … definitely still disagree”

    There is a disconnect from reality. And these people get to vote. They are the ones deciding, based on an emotive reaction rather than a logical one, what all of our futures will look like.

    It scares the living shit out of me.

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  11. It’s official & stephieboy is in a safe place.

    ……” First and foremost: self love is the best — and least dangerous — kind of love.

    “You are your safest sex partner,” the document reads. “Masturbation will not spread COVID-19, especially if you wash your hands (and any sex toys) with soap and water for at least 20 seconds before and after.” “……

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/21/nyc-health-department-gets-graphic-in-coronavirus-sex-memo/

    Regrettably the situation is more complicated for Comrade Rightoverlabour whose Skydaddy has told him not to spill his seed on the ground. 🙂

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  12. When does Noel Leeming open again?
    The fucking lying Prime Minister has just said her government has been completely open and transparent in their management of Covid-19. And now she’s trying to schmooze small-business owners.
    I don’t think my television set will survive any more of this bullshit.

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    • I find it very worrying that there seems to be so many people who don’t recognise this BS when they see or hear it. I had an e mail this morning from someone I would have thought pretty switched on but it indicated clearly to me that he was swallowing whole the BS being broadcast on radio and TV who are parroting the government line without demur. New Zealand is f*cked ladies and gentlemen if these people don’t wake up and take the red pill soon.

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      • Just wait until the taxes kick in Alice.
        That nasty John Key borrowed money left, right and centre, don’t you recall.
        By the time we had to pay the bill, or forfeit services we couldn’t afford, everyone had forgotten what the money was borrowed for.

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      • Needs to be a pill of a different colour I think.

        Well I have broken out of my bubble to the larger bubble of Waikato Hospital again, no waiting lists here, a great time to be unwell. But the ambulance officers seemed to think that we dodged a bullet.

        We would have had no bullet to dodge if the borders had been protected.

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    • Floyd, with one of the links I provided, RFK jr made reference to a Gates affiliated company called TransDerm Inc.
      it is owned by Allergan a global biopharmaceutical and medical device leader.

      One of its products is a device (gel stent) inserted into the eye under the guise of addressing glaucoma reversal.

      Lets just say…. everyone has to where a mask from now on.
      Facial recognition becomes difficult so eye recognition will be needed.
      An implant in the eye will also act as an indicator to say you have been vaccinated
      and has the potential to record everything you see and do at all times.

      https://www.allergan.com/News/Details/2020/04/China%20Gives%20Greenlight%20to%20Allergans%20XEN%20Registration%20for%20the%20Surgical%20Management%20of%20Refractory%20Glauc

      If you think to yourself, no fucking way am I getting one of those things.
      Well… look at the clip in the twitter link below, and see what sheeple allow to be put into them.

      Do you see the script playing out? Normalizing chip implants!

      https://mobile.twitter.com/SnowWhite7IAM/status/1251636453714604037

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      • I think it’s easy to see it playing out!

        The sheeple do not have original thoughts.

        They have been brainwashed from birth to believe the narrative. They will believe they are being saved from something.
        I expect a ramping up of climate change bs in the coming months and years, putting the boot in hard when everyone is struggling with the economic nightmare that we are about to endure.

        The sheeple have been sleepwalking into slavery. I don’t think they will be liking this nightmare they are about to have.

        But they will plead with their masters for salvation. They will give up anything for their safety and wellbeing, just so long as they don’t actually have to do sweet fuck all to get it.

        And the sheeple will get exactly what they are told they want. And they will get it fucking good, and they’ll get it fucking hard.

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  13. Looks like the’ Bezos Bugle’ (Washington Post) are first out of the blocks in an attempt to sully their oppositions reputations.

    The news is very good for Trump.

    The Steele dossier just sustained another body blow. What do CNN and MSNBC have to say?

    Freshly declassified footnotes from a 2019 Justice Department report cast further doubt on one of the central documents of Russiagate — a collection of memos compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele and published by BuzzFeed in January 2017. The dossier contained extravagant allegations about presidential candidate Donald Trump and was treated to deference in some precincts of the mainstream media.

    PS: Don’t forget, to get behind the paywall, tap the escape button as soon as the page loads.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/18/steele-dossier-just-sustained-another-body-blow-wheres-media/

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      • It means a different thing ( for them ) when they lie.

        Western ideals are a barrier to understanding the Chinese. Just as Chinese ideals are a barrier to understanding the West.

        Asians are not foreign simply because of overt differences. It goes deeper. I find them both pragmatic and mysterious. Though not as obscure, to me, as Indians. Who I cant read at all.

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  14. This is a very good article and it’s not behind a paywall. It is with the Taiwanese VP (who is also an epidemiologist) on why Taiwan good it so right.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/taiwans-vice-president-chen-chien-jen-countrys-fight-covid-19/

    Important message for Ardern & co

    “Covid-19 is becoming flu-like. It means that since it is highly contagious with many mild or asymptomatic cases, and can be transmitted through droplets and contaminated areas, we won’t get rid of this virus totally.”

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    • Sorry to go on… but we can’t stop the spread.

      It’s painfully obvious. If we believe this virus is more contagious and virulent than other flus, then the lockdown would eliminate those existing strains first – that we also have vaccinations for.

      Of course this will never happen. The lockdowns won’t work and a possible vaccine will only slightly reduce critical cases. Just like all the other flu vaccines. BTW flu vaccine efficacy is less among the elderly and at risk.

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    • Although I’ve commented on the post I’m still not sure that DPF isn’t taking the piss. I did though read a comment from CMM who described Hugzilla to a T.

      ……”She is the Bridget Jones politician and any day when she does not screw up is seen as a win.”……

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      • I went to have a look. There are some excellent replies from GD, etc but the one that hit the nail on the head was by ‘Yes Minister’ with this little nugget of insight in his text.

        “Closing the borders after we were infected, then getting praised for saving lives is governance by Munchausen by proxy.”

        Cindy cocked up closing our border then swooped to claim she went “early and hard”. Save us from your bullshitting Cindy.

        I don’t agree that DPF was taking the piss. DPF seemed like he was quite supportive asking for posters to respect the guest post.

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        • Yes WG – some are saying it’s a piss-take, some that it is a joke, some that it is serious. I took it as a serious opinion piece contributed with the blessing of Mr Farrar.
          Whatever – I’m getting a bit tired of of being played for a fool – not to mention in moderation for lengthy periods after asking to be taken off that list.
          Similar happened with the April Fools “joke”.
          There is not much respect there for genuine commenters.

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          • I never had any kind of warning on KB over approx 9 years of posting. Very occasionally these days I’ll go and have a read but stopped posting some time ago. DPF doesn’t show any respect for any long term loyalty by his blog users. So now I’m happy with YSB, at least Ed interacts with those who post on his blog when they ask him a question. 😃

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    • Good grief, is that where you lot used to hang out before our dear Ed started YSB. What a vomit inducing article. I would have left a comment but couldn’t be bothered to go through the process of signing up to a blog I will never, ever visit again.

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    • And the author even has the gall to sign up and reply on KB as per;

      Hi Altiroa, Thanks for reading, and thanks for your comment. My article was written over a week ago, and I’m sure as you would know the Covid-19 situation changes rapidly. This was meant to be an opinion piece for mainstream media – it also happened to be published here. It’s aim was to focus on the emotional and empathetic side that the PM brings. I more than understand the economic issues which have arisen due to the lockdown, similarly, I understand that NZ in this point of time may be falling behind in comparison to other countries. But the intention of this article was to portray my feelings about the PM and how she made me feel at the time based on the decisions she made. Therefore purely on an emotional level – the above article was my opinion.

      End quote.

      Emotional, emotional, emotional. Fuck off to where you came from cunt.

      We need action in our economy, not emotion.

      Fuck off to wherever you came from.

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  15. Peter Hitchens latest in the Mail on Sunday:
    “The report from the Office for Budget Responsibility has made clear that the damage done by crashing the economy is deep and dangerous. It may last for many years. And much of it was avoidable.
    Some police officers have also acted with shocking arrogance, and appeared to enjoy it. The harm done by this behaviour may never be repaired.
    The pain is spreading fast in the form of strangled business, often small enterprises built on brave risk-taking and mortgaged homes. Many are now sinking into bankruptcy – not because they failed, but because the Government’s policy killed them.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8233479/PETER-HITCHENS-five-weeks-mad-lockdown-panic-actually-good.html

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  16. Really we need a strong electoral process..
    The only way these people are running this country now is because we have an electoral system that has bastardised democracy
    Individuals do not count,neither do their property or civil rights.
    We are in deep trouble.

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  17. This has been an eye-opener for New Zealanders. It has been a stress-test in which society has been put through its paces and we have gotten to see how we hold up under actual combat.

    This has not been a drill.

    – Government shows its authoritarian streak
    – It selects a disease model with the highest number of deaths, for maximum “fear” effect
    – New Zealanders show their willingness to trade freedom for temporary security
    – The police demonstrate how willing they are to “follow orders”
    – Cultural icons such as the Listener and Woman’s Weekly are discarded
    – The media fawn towards the ruling party rather than acting on the side of the People and asking questions
    – The political opposition is nowhere to be seen or heard
    – Money is thrown at the jobless
    – SMEs (the business creators) are sacrificed
    – Welfare and monopolies are granted to big companies and the supermarkets

    We have come a long way.

    “There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.” ― Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

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  18. Coronavirus: Health experts feel censored over alternative lockdown plan
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/04/coronavirus-health-experts-feel-censored-over-alternative-lockdown-plan.html

    A group of health experts who believe the Government’s lockdown response has been too harsh say they feel censored, with the Government and even the media disinterested in any dissenting voices.

    They’re concerned the Government is getting all its scientific advice from an echo chamber as it prepares to decide our immediate future on Monday.

    But the ‘COVID Plan B’ group of epidemiologists are not singing from the same song book.

    Dr Simon Thornley, a senior epidemiology lecturer at the University of Auckland, believes New Zealand should move to alert level 2 rapidly.

    “I believe that this has been an overreaction and that locking down New Zealand for too long is going to create more problems than we’re going to solve,” he tells Newshub.

    “I think there has been some censorship of alternate views throughout this period,” Dr Thornley says.

    Newshub emailed the Health Minister to ask if their decision to go into lockdown had been challenged by any of their health advisers – but got no official response.

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