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  1. It looks and sounds like Winston Peter’s and the NZ First Foundation donation Scandal is about to take another period of bad publicity with the revelation of what some money has been used for, withering headlines today saying ” money from Mysterious NZ First
    Foundation used to fund MP’s UK Travel Junket”.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=12328392
    The MP from the NZ First Party was also their bagman collecting Donations for the NZ Foundation Clayton Mitchell.

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    • It looks like Barry Soper is tag teaming with Winston Peter’s to take the bad air out of the story above with praise of Winston Peter’s blaming everyone but himself on why people wanted our borders closed.
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=12328407
      Peter’s spent the whole day speaking about himself and how great thou are on different subjects knowing that moe Revelations were about to throw more bad news on the NZ First Foundation.

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    • Yes there must be something bad about to come to our attention. The drunken dwarf is the master of deflection.
      I had wondered why he was trying to give his sudden rants in the last couple of days more air time than they deserve.

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      • Obviously the whole Media brigade in NZ would had known about this , but no they wanted to help him lesson the blow by covering many of the stories about himself on he has saved NZ and the economy from our Health System. Another sample of our politically corrupt media.

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          • Wait this only the beginning Winston ,Jessica Mutch and Tova O’Brien will find a way to blame Simon Bidges for this and probably will suggest the CCP paid for Simon and the crew’s travel to china in 2019. I also wonder whether this story on Jamie Lee Ross and his so called new party was another distraction to take air out of the NZ First Foundation funds story.

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      • ED, no this is the maggot Peter’s M O ,4or 5 months out from the election he starts picking at the low hanging fruit,
        Immigration,
        Indians,
        Muslims,
        Millionaires,
        Billionaires,
        Hollywood buying our high country land,
        Gays ,
        Lazy Maori,
        Lazy Pollies,
        ETC ETC ETC, and it works a treat nearly every time ,all the low IQ dumby older NZrs awake from their gin enduced comas and vote the rat cunning drunk back into power along with his horse faced skapegoat.
        Its just a matter of time before he blames Ardern for all of our problems ,what other use is she ?

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      • Yes, that whole thing yesterday about making a decision to keep the borders open for NZ’ers to return, against advice from Health to close them, was a load of twaddle. Listening to Hosking this morning, Ardern is trying to make it sound like she made this decision to protect her flock, but there was no decision to be made. UN doesn’t allow her to make citizens stateless, which is what they’d be if refused entry to NZ. So whole story is smokescreen.

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        • I am OK with returning New Zealanders, subject to managed quarantine at their cost, and given the removal of so much from the rest of us who were here still paying tax and numerous other government fees, excise etc, that would have been reasonable.

          I do not accept, even slightly, that the UN or WHO has any ability to dictate how this country operates.

          I did note a report today that the DG of Health wanted a quarantine placed in February. The failure to follow that advice has been an expensive one for government with long term implications for us all. A quarantine in place and no lockdown would surely have been a better option and a guide to any second wave.

          Another level 4 or a reversal back to level 4 is not acceptable.

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        • Winston Peters, and Jacinda Ardern are building a strawman’s arguement of what they could and could not do, about following UN guidelines about statelessness.
          This is to make them sound very wise, caring, kindly and that they knew what they were doing in a timely manner.
          No journalist questions their house of straw.
          Rubbish, burn down their house of straw!

          A full monitored secure quarantine, using the army, navy, and air forces resources, even iwi & marae, (make them earn that $57 million 🙂 ) and with a co operation for water, food, cooking, accommodation, showers, toilets, camping grounds, militiary bases, etc… tents, etc.. while the weather was so damm good!

          Alert Level 1 — Prepare
          ~ Border entry measures to minimise risk of importing COVID-19 cases.
          https://covid19.govt.nz/alert-system/covid-19-alert-system/#alert-level-1%C2%A0%E2%80%94-prepare

          Never was prepared, planned or implemented.
          Nothing to little was done through Level 2, or 3, or even for weeks in level 4

          Compare the cost of the “go hard go early” manoeuvre on full monitored quarantine, to what this Level 4 procedure will cost 4.8 million New Zealanders now.

          Can such ineptness be trusted to continue to stop New Zealand going into its downward economic doldrums, then to recovery.

          Have enough kiwis seen through the sock puppetry of straw?

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  2. Note to Cindy:

    When in a few month’s time the Chinese buy up the remainder of our bankrupt manufacturing industry it might be an idea to hang on to a couple of PPE manufacturers & see if we can make our own test kits.

    We may not be able to afford to buy them from the Chinese when they release Covid 20 early next year.

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  5. Want a bloody good giggle…..
    Dozens of hippies who got stuck at a festival in Panama due to coronavirus realized that the collectivist utopia they sought after is actually “hell” as they bicker over food and territory.
    The Tribal Gathering Festival, billed as “paradise on earth,” was supposed to end on March 15, but 40 western hippies remain trapped at the site because Panama announced a national emergency due to COVID-19 and placed them under quarantine.

    A subsequent ban on all entry and departure flights now means the hippies are likely to be stuck in “paradise” until the end of May.

    A VICE documentary about their plight shows attendees complaining about how they are “stuck in hell” as they struggle with bad weather and major sewage issues at the campsite.
    VICE reports that the festival was “designed to be a temporary paradise where people from western cities could learn from indigenous communities about how to rebalance society and live in symbiosis with the earth.”

    However, any sense of communitarian oneness appears to have been washed away as attendees bicker and fight over food and territory.

    “Don’t try to steal our food, I’ll get really upset with you,” one organizer tells the rest of the crowd. “And remember where you are, you’re in my fucking manor,” he adds.

    “I’ve been camping on a beach for 80 days!” said Doug Francisco, who led Extinction Rebellion climate change activists last year. “While the festival was still going on, the police came in and tried to shut it down.”
    Food, cleaning products and tobacco is all in short supply, with some hippies having to do manual labor to stay fed.
    https://summit.news/2020/04/28/dozens-of-hippies-stuck-at-festival-in-panama-due-to-coronavirus-realize-collectivist-utopia-is-actually-hell/

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    • Karma exists! 👍

      “I’ve been camping on a beach for 80 days!” said Doug Francisco, who led Extinction Rebellion climate change activists last year. “While the festival was still going on, the police came in and tried to shut it down.”
      Food, cleaning products and tobacco is all in short supply, with some hippies having to do manual labor to stay fed.”

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      • Seeming to prove that ‘Peace, Love and Mung Beans’ is really a fairy-story constructed by wealthy American liberals to make themselves feel good; so that they can pretend to be ‘revolutionaries’ and ‘people of the land’.

        How the mighty doth fall…

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    • “major sewage issues at the campsite.”
      So these bean sprout munchers have neither the Swede nor the brawn to dug a few long drops?

      “Some hippies having to do manual labour to stay fed”
      Great Scott, how do they think regular mortals earn a living?

      Zero fucks given.

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  6. I support building water storage projects. It is ridiculous to not have reservoirs to collect winter rain for use during our hot, dry summers.

    Regions around NZ set for funding boost, more jobs after Govt loans $48 million for nine projects
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/regions-around-nz-set-funding-boost-more-jobs-after-govt-loans-48-million-nine-projects?auto=6152965620001

    The nine initiatives receiving loans totalling $48.4m are:

    Raukokore River Water Ltd, water storage project – $10.6m
    Wai o Kaha Gold JV Ltd Partnership, kiwifruit orchard development – $5m
    Wairarapa Water Limited, community water storage – $7m
    Whakatāne District Council and Ngati Awa, Whakatāne riverfront revitalisation – $9.6m
    Te Rahui Lands Trust, Ngati Awa Group Holdings and Whakātane District Council – $4.7m
    Te Waka Pupuri Pūtea Trust, Awanui water storage project (Far North) – $3m
    Hineuru Iwi Trust – Hineuru cherry orchard development – $4.3m
    Hawke’s Bay Regional Council, Tukituki water storage development phase – $2.5m
    Hawke’s Bay Regional Council, Heretaunga Plains water storage development phase – $1.7m

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  7. Teacher asks little Johnny what he did over the weekend.
    He replies “I found a frog and stuck a cracker up its arse”.
    “Rectum, Johnny, rectum”.
    “Wrecked him? blew its fucken arse off”.

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  8. Duncan Garner: We allowed COVID-19 to be walked into New Zealand
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/04/duncan-garner-we-allowed-covid-19-to-be-walked-into-new-zealand.html

    And because of this, we had to endure a Gestapo like approach to level 4. And a level 4 approach to level 3.

    But business is suffering, Kiwis are losing jobs and if we’d had a proper plan, the damage could have been more contained.

    We didn’t have enough ICU beds – just three per 100,0000 people. Australia has 10, Germany has 33.

    We didn’t have enough ventilators, personal protection equipment and we didn’t close our borders until it was too late

    We squandered our natural advantage. The ocean is our moat and yet our borders remained open to the virus for simply too long.

    When they finally closed the door, the virus had walked in and spread.

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    • Cindy works on the premise that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it. So it is with “hard and early”. As long as people were still being allowed in to “self-isolate” (how naive can you be), our borders were open.

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      • It wasn’t the article I was looking for. Professor Des Gorman was interviewed by Garner but it seems DG has rewritten it as his opinion. I see Ruahine has posted Professor Gorman’s interview over on the “Free Speech is Hate Speech” thread. Gorman gives the CoL a backhander.

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    • Meanwhile Ardern thinks NZ is the leader of the world in this issue and her PR team has sprayed that message through the media. But the Cook Islands appears to be completely virus free. 900 tests done and all negative. They are doing the social distancing and getting back their lives completely now. Well done to the Cooks !! It is interesting that this is the case given they have tourists from all over the place.

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    • And now CoL building a straw-man’s argument about the UN requirement having to take back kiwis from overseas, when the real issue was to abide by their rules of doing a proper monitored quarantine! that with NZ’s fine weather could easily have been done.

      Can one trust such people in power, when they get it so expensively wrong.

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  10. A while ago I wondered if the recovery would be V-shaped, L-shaped or Pear-shaped.
    If the stock market averages are anything to go by, the recovery in the markets is a “V”. Or is it a Bull Trap? Or the bounce of one very dead cat? It feels like a phoney war.
    It’s a mystery to me. Perhaps all the corporate welfare, the wage support and subsidies, and the supply of free money is doing its bit to prop up the markets.
    On the other hand, over 22 million Americans filing for relief is not a good sign. I understand that this relief will only last for a while, and then people will be in economic free fall.

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  11. New Zealand borrowing Billions of dollars and with many of our workers with no job and Shane Jone is out there big noting on how the need to get the country up running again from his lending money from the PGF to some is helping .
    This is no more than electioneering using the money as a bribe to gather votes and the media think it’s great.
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/regions-around-nz-set-funding-boost-more-jobs-after-govt-loans-48-million-nine-projects

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    • Jones should have been pushing that the iwi & marae, in different batches of travellers, alongside with army could have been earning money months ago in assisting NZ with monitored quarantine.
      That way they could have earnt some of the $57 million. 🙂

      In many places the marae would be called into civil defence systems.

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  13. Paula Bennett and Shane Jones trade cheeky political jabs, reflect on lockdown experiences

    With the country moving down to Alert Level 3 earlier this week, TVNZ1’s Breakfast was able to bring back MPs Paula Bennett and Shane Jones for their weekly political catch-up, and the duo didn’t skip a beat in landing some cheeky blows.
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/paula-bennett-and-shane-jones-trade-cheeky-political-jabs-reflect-lockdown-experiences?auto=6152974863001

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  14. So can anyone come with the answer why we haven’t heard anymore about Phil Twford threat to NZ City Councils about the punishment for not raising rates.
    This treat bordered on blackmail and needed for someone higher up in Government to take the Coalition to task.

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  15. A woman walks into an opticians office, carefully carrying an attache case. She places the case on his desk and steps back. The optician gingerly opens the case, then recoils in horror. Sitting in the case is a huge human turd.
    He asks the woman, “Is this yours?’
    She replies, “yes.”
    He says, ” You should be seeing your doctor about this – not me.”
    She replies, “My doctor told me to come to see you.”
    The optician replies,” Why on earth did your doctor send you to me?”
    She replied, ” Every time I have one of these, my eyes water.”

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  18. I am interested in how we as a country are not starting to rebel at the way we are prisoners under an incredibly/increasingly strict regime. Also the waste of tax payers and ratepayers money. It appears to me they seem to believe taxes are to be wasted on what ever they like. The incompetence of government and councils is unbelievable. Just as a small example, today at the local dog park I note there are brand new signs up regarding dogs running off lead. Yesterday, the notice stated that under level 4 dogs were to be on lead. Today the new printed notices state dogs will remain on lead Until further notice. For the council to suddenly state this has significant meaning. First that they have the ability to change their minds so readily and that we are so under control that we are to obey these rules. also they have the extra cash to print signs willy nilly which cost is not insignificant when you consider the number that will need to be printed, and the number of people putting the signs up around the country. One of my dogs is due for his annual check up and vaccinations. Oh no, the vets are not permitted to vaccinate dogs at this time, they have under law to wait till the government allows it, under either level 2 or 1. If the dog is not vaccinated within 4-6 weeks of the vaccinations becoming due, they will need booster vaccinations, at significant costs increases. The pathetic way this life is now under totalitarian command I am not sure that I actually wish to be part of it. As if a visit to the dog park with a run for animals or a vaccination is going to make any difference. I am beyond understanding what planet the fucked person who is making these rules is on.

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    • Our society has developed into two groups: a) those old enough to remember hard times but on the verge of retirement and pension-collecting, who are too old to rock the boat; and b) those who have never known hard times, who have been pussified by a generation of being cossted by guilty working boomer parents.
      Group a) has the will but not the energy; group b) has the energy but no will.

      Of course, this is a gross over-simplification.

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    • I have said from day one – that people just don’t understand how evil and extreme Ardern is. She is 100% as bad as Stalin or Mao. If she could have dissenters dragged off the gulags and torture chambers , she would.

      But many people are too wet to accept that fact.

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      • “If she could have dissenters dragged off the gulags and torture chambers , she would.”

        I’m not convinced that won’t happen yet…
        Look at the attacks on Freedom of Speech etc and the vilification by the Media of anyone who openly questions St Jacinda!
        We are on a VERY slippery slope. And remember- No overseas travel means no escape…

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      • Who in New Zealand would have the authority to set up gulags?
        Broad emergency powers are all well and good, but where are the safety systems and oversights in this country to prevent an over-zealous civil servant or politician from attempting to set up such holding camps?
        It’s a good thing that the police and armed forces of New Zealand swear their allegiance to the Queen and not to the New Zealand government.

        Ref:
        Police Oath
        I, [name], swear that I will faithfully and diligently serve Her (or His) Majesty [specify the name of the reigning Sovereign], Queen (or King) of New Zealand, her (or his) heirs and successors, without favour or affection, malice or ill-will.
        Army Oath
        “I, [name], solemnly promise and swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, Her heirs and successors, and that I will faithfully serve in the Royal New Zealand Naval Forces/the New Zealand Army/the Royal New Zealand Air Force [Delete the Services that are not appropriate],

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    • Same Lizzie, I’ve been waiting to be able to have our cat have her yearly vaccination which is required to be up-to-date if we wish to put her in the cattery.
      This arrest of our rights is getting ridiculous. The public got behind the initial lockdown but many are now taking very little notice of Cindy’s demands to continue with level 3 restrictions as we HAVE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE!!!

      As for councils and the govt lefties who wheedle their way into high paying jobs believe that rates and taxes are mandatory so therefore they can spend it as they wish.

      Magic radion interviewed The Auckland Ratepayers Association? who are trying to find a media outlet to print the names of 86 Auckland CC employees who are paid at least $250k for their ratepayer paid positions. The council are threatening them with legal action and phoning media outlets to warn them off printing the list for the public to read.

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    • It all started a long time ago – the grand Marxist march through the institutions. With the focus on schooling – these fucking fascists in Labour really took the words of Lenin to heart when he said

      “Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.

      The dumbfuck millenials that surround us and march in lockstep to the left’s call to crush capitalism are walking taking oxygen-stealing proof of the effectiveness of Lenin’s words. The only problem is that conservativism never fought to retain control of education and now we give the mad Marxists teaching profession – not the four years Lenin wanted – but a minimum of 11 years going up to upwards of 16/17 years or longer if they enter higher education.

      This is why Charter schooling was so important and why Cindy and Chris Hipkins crushed it on day one – despite not mentioning that they’d do it on the 2017 campaign trail.

      If we want our country back, we need to have real-time sound and vision monitoring of teaching classrooms, so we can see just how corrupted the nations classrooms have become. And we need a low bar for every school in the land to become a charter school and major financial incentives on offer for those that convert. It needs to be so widespread across our nation and so embedded in our communiities that Labour can never again wipe out a Charter school on a whim like they did in late 2017.

      The minds of the nation’s children need to filled with facts and not lies again – that’s when we’ll get our country back.

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  21. I actually wonder what Jacinda and Winston will say about this.
    The Epidemic Committee holding its final meeting of the week. Sir Peter Gluckman said the war is not won, and many months of economic pain lays ahead, perhaps for many. He went on to say and many assume a stable future they will no longer have, may become dependent on subsidies for the first time in their lives and may become angry and fearful.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/415474/watch-live-epidemic-response-committee-to-discuss-poverty-and-family-violence

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  23. NHK reports that US GDP for the 1st quarter (to 31 March) is -4.8%.
    The kicker is the forecast decline for the 2nd quarter, of a decline of up to 40%. The figures should come out at the end of July.

    Meanwhile the Dow Jones is pulling a “V-shaped recovery” but I suspect a classical Bull Trap.

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  26. These ‘road blocks’ are serious bad news! A contact went through one of these recently..
    Apparently a patched gang member leans into your car and asks your name and address etc all your personal details
    (You would have to be insane to give these criminal pricks any information!)
    Thankfully my contact is an experienced ex Cop who didn’t fall for it- Gave them a famous rock star’s name and totally made up address.
    He reckons they would likely turn up at your address all patched up and looking for ‘Koha’ later…
    Like I said- Seriously fucking bad news!

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    • Is it martial law?
      Is it police law?
      mongrel or mongel law?

      With the iwi manned road blocks, supported by the police & health departments and ok with by PM Ardern, are they receiving money for the time, PPE, safety gear, signage, brochures, communications for working on these blockades?
      Would they be paid a “living wage” plus some for colonist grievance?
      How is this funded, besides the ones saying they are being volunteers
      Would that money be sourced from the extra $57 million?
      Or is it from the health, transport, or police budget or even from the PM’s budget?
      Must be a slush fund some where?

      With approved recognition, it would be deemed to be in “Treaty” partnership, then payment must be made for the “job” to avoid colonist oppression. 🙁

      .from falcon’s tip above @ 1:41 pm
      Peter Gluckman told MPs that many iwi were saying that Māori felt “frustrated and disappointed that they were excluded from the room by decision makers in the early stages of the pandemic”.
      .
      “Yet, Māori have shown great community in wisdom in the way that they had to look to address the problems they face,” speaking of distributing goods and the checkpoints.
      .
      Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern also addressed the issue briefly today when asked about it during the daily Covid-19 update press conference.
      .
      “It is not legal for any member of the public to simply stop or prohibit the movement of others, but the police are of course able to do that,” she said.
      .
      “Where we’ve had community checkpoints in some cases they’ve been information sharing – it hasn’t necessarily been prohibiting travel.
      Where they have been cropping up, we’ve had police working alongside those checkpoints to make sure that what is happening is legal, is safe and is there to support the community.”
      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/if-wed-shut-down-checkpoints-there-wouldve-been-protests-police-commissioner

      What does that make the rest of New Zealanders?
      So now should I stop for or be guided by any one on the road.
      They could be a stooge, acting as a policeman, so should just be ignored!

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    • How lovely, the proms partner so friendly with the cop it is vomit inducing. No wonder the cops are just doing the “let us hug a criminal” deal. I am so over all this, the adulation of the ptpm is so sickening. They are buying into the she is so nice which they will find out in due course is totally fake, if you don’t do what she wants I am very sure she would cut you off at the knees.

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  29. Nicked this info from KB. Interesting reading. Labours new voting block thanks to A Spittle.

    “Thank you for your email of 26 March 2020, requesting further information
    about individuals serving less than three years’ imprisonment, as at 30
    November 2019. Your request has been considered under the Official
    Information Act 1982 (OIA).”

    You have requested:
    a breakdown of the 1,985 prisoners by their number of convictions,
    specifically how many are in each of the following categories:
    1. 10 or fewer convictions
    2. 11 to 25 convictions
    3. 26 to 50 convictions
    4. 50 to 75 convictions
    5. 76 to 100 convictions
    6. (6) 101 – 200 convictions
    7. more than 200 convictions

    Please refer to the table below.
    Number of convictions Prisoners
    10 or fewer 461
    11 to 25 617
    26 to 50 577
    51 to 75 208
    76 to 100 71
    101 to 200 46
    more than 200 5
    Total 1,985

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  30. Ardern must be starting to get the uncomfortable feeling that the populace is starting to get restless. Well they are. They can see the fruits of many years graft being shat on by the government enacted economic catastrophe that is looming and years of pain ahead.

    And guess what Jacinta- your legacy will be one of loathing and derision. Hope you’ve got an escape plan ready.

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    • Yes there’s a terribly weird dichotomy going on with what I’m seeing/hearing:
      – on heavily controlled media outlets (FB, Twitter, MSM) you see wall to wall bot-voice acclaim for Jacinda
      – on talk back radio – you hear hatred, loathing, frustration, despair about Jacinda

      So on the traditionally untrustworthy outlets you get propaganda, when you listen to people you get the truth.

      Something is happening.

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      • ……”(FB, Twitter, MSM) you see wall to wall bot-voice acclaim for Jacinda”…..

        Then ignore them because they are nothing but propaganda & the ravings of idiots clapping like performing seals.

        If we get through Level 3.8 & progress to Level2 within the two weeks that have been indicated the mutterings & grumblings should be seen for the safety valve they are.

        If PriNZess decides to keep us on the naughty step then I doubt that the Police & Armed Forces will be able to control the masses with or without a policy of shoot on sight.

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        • Nasska- It’s less about the lockdown per se rather the resulting destruction it has and will have caused. Even people who are not business owners are sensing this so I don’t think it’s a “safety valve” effect at all. If the economy goes really tits up then Ardern and her cabal of the useless will really be in for some unpleasantness. Possibly the recipients of the greatest level of public opprobrium in our history.

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    • “And guess what Jacinta- your legacy will be one of loathing and derision. ”

      I firmly believe History will NOT be kind to Jacinda Ardern.
      Pretty soon she will up and off to a cushy job at her beloved UN- Leaving NZ a third world shithole.
      She will be rightfully reviled..

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    • I’ve never ever seen so many fucking barriers put in place by this inept government over the last two and a half years.
      Just a couple come to mind, the fucking gun fiasco and this Covid 19 pandemic where the border should have been shut down in mid March.
      That plane which came from Iran through Bali and onto Auckland with that women on board with Covid, should have been Quarantined right there and then.
      Excuse my language but what a pack of useless cunts !~
      We wouldn’t be in this stupid situation if they had closed the border earlier..?

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      • I still think we all need to head to Wellington en masse and protest . Fuck their bubbles. We need 100000 people minimum. Megaphones, yellow vests etc. Ive had more than a gutsful and Im not even in NZ !!

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      • If Cindy is watching this she will probably need a diaper change because she has got it SO wrong! And thanks to her idiocy the worst is yet to come, probably just in time for the election…if there is one this year.

        “The former Swedish chief epidemiologist Johan Giesecke says he will be “watching with interest” how Australia (and New Zealand) comes out of lockdown, as he questions the effectiveness of the draconian measures implemented to prevent the spread of the deadly coronavirus.”

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2TEOnOnHVM

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  33. On May 12th we should move from Level 3.x to Level 2.x.
    What would be the excuse given to continue with Level 3.x on May 12th?
    – An increase in cases of Covid-19 detection? (Just order the Ministry of Health to cut back on the testing.)
    – Civil disobedience as the burghers of Auckland swarm to get their burgers?
    – A survey indicates that an overwhelming proportion of Kiwis want the lockdown to continue?
    – A far deadlier Spanish-flu-like mutation of the coronavirus is discovered?

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    • Realistically Option 4 is the only one with a hope of flying.

      In any case the resistance will be at street level. Something will set it off, all the pent up pressure will explode & it will be all on for young & old.

      We’ll just continue to bitch about it on YSB.

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    • I got my paint to complete painting job, from bunnings.
      Click and pickup was not a nice experience!
      Why they can’t run it like a supermarket I don’t know?
      Shops are going go down the gurgler, if this carries on.

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      • I’d cut them a bit of slack at this time. They’re trying to stay within regulations that the Government is making up as they go along.

        But you’re right about the fate awaiting shops if they don’t get their shit in one dock. Covid has effectively destroyed shopping as a pastime. My favourite bitch about shops opening extra tills only when queues form is going to influence this household’s patronage in a big way.

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  39. Random thought. Ihu-tomato..poo-lice go in with banjos and sing songs.
    North Island..gangs hold illegal checkpoints, detaining and questioning law abiding citizens, poo-lice do nothing.
    WHAT THE FUCK!!!!??

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    • Look on the bright side. The Maori leaders who organized the roadblocks have probably gotten a great mana boost (in English “ego boost”) which means that they are now in debt to the police. I have no doubt that a few deals were cut in smokey back rooms over this, which the public will never know about.

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  40. A good friend telephoned me. He wants to put $250 on the fact that Simon Bridges will not be leader of the National Party at the next election. YSB contributors; give me your opinion. Should I take the bet or increase the stake or reduce the stake. $250 is a significant wager for me.

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    • Stigie, thanks, mate.
      The bet is whether he will be National’s leader on the morning of election day. As regards the result on election day;
      Well, Soiman could possibly beat an egg but would have no show against the toothy one.

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  44. Replying to Simpletons concerns above about these illegal roadblocks that do not have a Police presence at…..

    if you were forced to stop and then not allowed to carry on, on your lawful way because your answers didn’t satisfy some belligerent vigilante, (n. A person who considers it their own responsibility to uphold the law in their neighbourhood.) then you are getting pretty close to the crime of Kidnapping.

    You have been detained……tick
    without your consent…..tick
    with intent to confine…..(confined = required to remain in one place)

    Crimes Act 1961, s209 Kidnapping
    Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 14 years who unlawfully takes away or detains a person without his or her consent or with his or her consent obtained by fraud or duress,—
    (a)
    with intent to hold him or her for ransom or to service; or
    (b)
    with intent to cause him or her to be confined or imprisoned; or
    (c)
    with intent to cause him or her to be sent or taken out of New Zealand.

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    • I’d imagine that they’d base a defence on the principle that it is proper to restrict an exercise of freedom that is likely to cause disproportionate harm to others. Eg the Health Act of 1956 (or similar).

      They would normally be challenged over their authority to do so but in this age of crim cuddling & appeasement to Maori……who knows?

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    • In one paragraph it says “economy is operating at 75 percent capacity”
      In the next paragraph it says “75 percent is operating under level 3”
      Herald need to check before publishing.

      “The New Zealand economy is back operating at 75 per cent capacity on the third day of alert level 3 lockdown, as timely warnings come from overseas about the dangers of lifting the lockdown too soon.”

      “Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said 75 per cent of the economy is operating – but that comes with a responsibility for people to maintain physical distancing. Ardern warned that if New Zealand moved too quickly though level 3, there would be a higher risk of a second wave, which “would be horrific for our economy”.

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