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  1. Morning all, going by the amount of rainfall we had yesterday and last night I would imagine the drought is over. That means it will now rain persistently for the next six months like it normally does up here.

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  2. Horse features has got the economy off to a great rebuild,her friend Susan Paul is releasing the salvation of our economy with the “puffy eye remover” It’s not a joke ,this little gadget or whatever it is will restore confidence and have our financial situation soaring with the eagles in no time, thank you Cindy and thank you Susan.
    Susan Paul for minister of finance ,seriously she’ll have as much chance of getting us back on our feet as Bozo Robertson will.

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  4. The narrative on Chicken Little AGW is changing, UK’s Independent dancing on the head of a pin

    There’s been noise from the Climate Rational movement for a while that Earth’s temperature is principally dependent on one thing and one thing alone – the source of just about all and any discernible heat in our solar system – the Sun. And now that the NWO fascists have started rolling out their replacement fear-tool (yikes pandemics – be afraid and get micro-chipped like a dog so we can monitor you) – we can see that the NWO propaganda outlets are starting to prepare the ground for a shift away from blaring on about the Chicken Little Global Warming fear tool.

    Here is the UK’s Independent reporting the sun is “quieter” at the moment. Of course the cunts can’t help themselves and are still euphemising to hide the truth. A fucking bell is “quieter”, a screeching child gets “quieter”, even a whining socialist has known to take a breath and “quieter” for a few seconds from time to time – but a celestial body that emits massive amounts of electromagnetic radiation is not generally talked about in terms of the noise it emits.

    When honest people talk about the sun they talk about two, maybe three things. First and foremost I think of the sun in terms of the warmth I feel when I feel it’s rays on my face. Secondly, I relate to the sun in terms of the light it provides at the start of the day and because I’m one of the rapidly decreasing number of people on the planet who believe in science – I think of sunlight’s essential role as a pre-conditional components of life on Earth in the photosynthesis cycle (alongside CO2 and H2O).

    I never fucking thinking of the Sun in terms of sound.

    The only reason you’d even think about referring to the sun in any way other than it’s heat and light – is if you are a lying fucking NWO pawn and you want to avoid mentioning the unavoidable truth that the sun is cooling and that this proves there is no fucking CO2 global warming problem.

    Please excuse my outrage – my point remains. The fuckers are changing the tune now. AGW will recede and Pandemic Panic will come to the fore as the means for imposing fascism and reducing populations for the evil NWO. And sadly, it looks like the sheeple are lapping this pile of piss up and will soon forget that they were convinced of the absurdity that paying more taxes to the NWO would lower CO2 levels.

    Oh well on to the next cycle of lies.

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    • In our limited time on planet earth, there are three things you can bet the house on.
      1. The sun will always rise in the east each morning.
      2. We are all going to die sometime in the future.
      3. Lefties will always be lying scum.

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    • I don’t think there is any sign that the Police have any concerns exercising powers beyond what they’re entitled to. From what I see they’re revelling in their ability to harass ordinary folk while looking the other way to criminal and illegal behaviour. That combined with the utterly asinine jokey propaganda videos trying to convince us what “good eggs” coppers are.

      I have immense respect for the role the Police can play in society, it’s just that I don’t see enough of them playing that role and I see too much of them acting as if they are in a 1984 movie. And I guess the big question was if the Police top brass felt that they were being asked to act illegally – why did they do it anyway? Political pressure? Was there similar Police pressure to do a Labour party election broadcast giving profile to the PM’s sperm donor too? What other political pressure is being applied and how can we trust a Police force that doesn’t follow the law? We can see from the US what happens when the FBI gets political – they are no longer trusted.

      But thanks for linking that – it seems some sort of awakening might be happening. Has NZ started to look a little less trustingly at our Liar in Chief? Or is this Mr Barely Sober, starting to run interference for Winston’s re-election push?

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      • It is Winston Peters has to try and shake his way out of the decisions that were made even though he was a major party to it. Winston knows when the shit hits the fan hopefully a couple of months before the Election he has given himself enough wriggle room to convince the punter he never tried to beat the electoral system concerning donations and the Majority won the vote in caucus to implement the lockdown.

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      • “I don’t think there is any sign that the Police have any concerns exercising powers beyond what they’re entitled to.”

        Infected with another nasty virus imported from the UK, the Common Purpose virus – leading beyond authority. Look it up if you are not familiar with the disease, it is absolutely rife in Britain and has led to much of the decline of that formerly Great Nation.

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      • The police have never had an issue exceeding their powers, and then covering up the result. It goes back to a cop planting a cartridge case in a garden, then covering up and denying it up including to the day of the funeral of the guilty person. They have been aided and abetted by weak and incompetent ministers

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    • I thought elected politicians worked for us?
      How fucking dare Ardern pontificate to us like we are naughty children…
      I was proud to see so many thousands of Kiwis at the beach yesterday in defiance of Jacinda’s little Stalinist control fantasies!

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      • On the beach, most importantly getting Vitamin D, that helps the immune system.:-)
        https://www.sciencealert.com/covid-deaths-are-being-linked-with-vitamin-d-deficiency-here-s-what-that-means

        An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, so they were complying with making themselves more hardy against the CCP virus.

        A smile, a laugh, triggers hormones to that activate the immune system.

        The police could be considered breaking the law, in stopping people boosting their immune system, and giving people “a bad experience” that could be very depressing. 🙂

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        • I have read several pieces lately about this, including from experienced medical professionals. I have my order arriving soon and I have my fingers crossed it is good quality stuff ( could not read much on the online image of the product.)
          An interesting comment I read on blog was that the body needs cholesterol to make the VitD from the sunlight stimulation so people (usually older people) who are taking the cholesterol lowering drugs (statins ?) will not be getting the full benefit , if any, from the sunlight.

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          • There are 2 types of cholesterol, and it is one of them that is the bad one for the blood system and the other is rated as quite important to have.

            One’s body makes cholesterol besides the intake of food.
            Statins only reduce cholesterol, but the doctors really note and are guided these days by the bad cholesterol level. so people still have some.

            Perhaps twice the reason to be at the beach, to get the sun plus the reflection from the sea. 🙂
            And when the snow fields open up, then for the hardy to be on the ski fields showing the pecs and back muscles. 🙂

            Mushrooms, fish, are good for vitamin D, so get the boat out with the rods. 🙂
            Why else is Winston Peters still alive, as he can still fish at the end of his lawn. 🙂

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  7. “would take away the ability of the public and councils to have input into whether projects proceed”. Are we about to lose our right to object?

    Greens raise concerns about planned law to fast-track resource consents
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/05/greens-raise-concerns-about-planned-law-to-fast-track-resource-consents.html

    Cabinet has agreed to put a rocket under the consenting process to boost the economy as it enters a sharp downturn brought on by the COVID-19 pandemic.

    The new legislation, due to be passed in June, would take away the ability of the public and councils to have input into whether projects proceed and instead hand this power to a small panels of experts, chaired by an Environment Court judge.

    Decisions would be issued within 25 working days and, while existing Treaty of Waitangi settlements would be upheld, appeal rights would be limited to points of law and judicial review.

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  9. Simon is a thorn in Socialist Cindy delaying the decision to lower level 3 until after 11 May. Her “waiting room” analogy is meant to keep us quiet.

    Coronavirus: Bridges urges shift to level 2, saying more COVID-19 cases possible at any alert level
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/05/coronavirus-bridges-urges-shift-to-level-2-saying-more-covid-19-cases-possible-at-any-alert-level.html

    Bridges says there are 1000 jobs being lost every day under level 3, based on new applications for the Jobseeker benefit. This is similar to the rate of new applications under level 4, when far fewer businesses were able to operate – there were 30,000 applications in the month to April 17, despite the Government’s wage subsidy being paid out to organisations employing 1.6 million people.

    “This has gone on too long,” he told Newshub. “We need to get New Zealand working again. Quite simply we’ve got to end lockdown because it’s so much easier to keep someone in a job.”

    He said officials “from Ashley Bloomfield down” have said COVID-19 is “eliminated”.

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  11. This incompetence is why NZ is in lockdown. We all knew the NZ border should have been closed at least 2 weeks earlier than it was.

    Coronavirus: Woman on flight with COVID-19 case contacted by tracing team 4.5 weeks later
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/05/coronavirus-woman-on-flight-with-covid-19-case-contacted-by-tracing-team-4-5-weeks-later.html

    She took a regional flight on March 17 and 10 days later developed symptoms of the respiratory virus.

    The woman, who RNZ agreed not to name, said it was nothing like she had ever felt before.

    “My lungs started burning, I didn’t get the normal flu symptoms, I had that a little bit later on, but it was just my lungs have never been affected in that way.

    “The burning then started to become painful with coughing and it felt like a weight on my chest that every day that I had the virus and extra extra weight got put on there, it was just a little bit harder to breathe,” she said.

    On developing a fever she rang Healthline, but was refused testing because she had no contact with a confirmed case and the tracing team had not made contact to suggest otherwise.

    “I tried again a second time and told them I’d been on a regional flight with international people and was refused.”

    She got so sick she contemplated going to the hospital, but instead looked through old media releases and found a flight from the March 17 listed as one which had a confirmed COVID-19 case on it.

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  12. People in the USA are starting to ask awkward questions. A copy of a tweet

    “Ned Nikolov, Ph.D.
    @NikolovScience
    Fauci mislead @realDonaldTrump to lock down the US economy via INTIMIDATION using faulty computer models projecting up to 2.2 M deaths in the absence of ACTUAL empirical evidence for emergency.

    Did you know such an act qualifies for “Domestic Terrorism”?https://law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2331 … “

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    • I doubt he would have said it was a mistake.
      We live in the now.
      Living in the past is not how investing works.
      You can’t change what happened five minutes ago.
      You make a decision on the information available now.

      You cant dwell in the past. That can only lead to depression and regrets.
      Probably a journo making shit up with Fake Gnews.

      I have read several of WB’s books – more than 10 years ago.
      He does lots of research before entering a sector.
      He is 90 this year.
      I doubt he handles much directly.
      We saw the local example here where old man Hubbard (SCF) lost sight and control

      I think Buffet’s real mistake is to be involved with Bill Gates as he has been for about 10 years.

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  14. If the cabinet is to decide today about going to lockdown two.
    Would you not let the shop keeper know so they can organize stock to be bought in.
    Staff rosters drawn up after deciding who is available and coming back to work!
    Arranging extra cleaning extra.
    It does not happen overnight or do labour think so?

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    • Sooty sorry to inform you business people are very few and far between in the entire COL,just think of any of them and convince me that they would be capable of running a business thats not connected full time to the public tit.,any of them? we have a cabal of losers in charge when what is needed is business people that know how to get the economy going again.
      Very tough times ahead for everybody except bankruptcy lawyers,car repossession heavies and real estate agents telling home owners ” your price is way to high”, the very same agents who just a few months back were saying gleefully ” I think we can get you a bit more than that”, They are like vultures sitting on a dead tree in the desert looking down on a dying animal with anticipation….

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    • One Kannot Kontrol, Komrade, if the Proletariat know what is going on

      Fear is the Key

      Your bellicose komments have been noted and rekorded, Komrade Sooty.

      You must learn to trust Great Leader and the All Seeing Eye
      Perhaps, Komrade, education is your greatest need for the next 5 to 10 years!!

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  15. On arrival he was greeted by Golly G and his whereabouts has been a mystery ever since. It’s about time our opposition asked where this Kurdish refugee has been hiding in NZ.

    National demands clarity over Kurdish refugee Behrouz Boochani
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/05/national-demands-clarity-over-kurdish-refugee-behrouz-boochani.html

    National’s immigration spokesperson, Stuart Smith, said National is questioning whether Boochani truly intended to leave New Zealand after a month, as he would have been required to state on his visitor visa application.

    When applying for a visa people had to show they were a “genuine tourist or visitor”, said Smith, and state their intention to leave.

    In an interview with the ABC before he arrived here, Smith said Boochani indicated then he had “no intention of leaving New Zealand” once his visitor visa expired.

    There was no justification for using a visitor visa to get to New Zealand in order to then seek asylum, Smith said.

    “He had been accepted for asylum in the US, so it’s not like a normal case of someone claiming asylum when they get in the country that has nowhere else to go – quite clearly he did.”

    There was a “bad odour” around the whole application process, Smith said, “but what’s happened since we don’t know and we won’t know possibly at all.

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    • While he’s at it, here’s some questions I’d like answers to:

      On 24 January, New Zealand’s Ministry of Health sets up a team to monitor the situation, but says the current risk is low. The following day, three cases of the virus are confirmed in Australia. On January 27, public health staff begin meeting flights from China to look for signs of the virus. The global number of cases rises to nearly 2800 and the death toll reaches 80.

      What techniques were Public Health staff engaging while they were meeting flights from China?
      What actions did the MoH team take to check available stocks of PPE and testing equipment/materials in NZ?

      On 30 January, the government charters an Air New Zealand flight to evacuate New Zealanders from Wuhan. The following day, the WHO declares the outbreak to be a “public health emergency of international concern”.

      What techniques were Public Health staff engaging while they were meeting flights from China?
      What actions did the MoH team take to check available stocks of PPE and testing equipment/materials in NZ?

      On 19 February, the first case of covid-19 is reported in Iran. The quarantine of 193 people evacuated from Wuhan to Whangaparaoa ends.

      What measures were taken to ensure these people were not infected before they were released from quarantine?

      Go early and go hard? – Too little too late.

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      • And if you think I’m banging on about testing you’re darn tootn.
        Check out the figures from the MoH site.
        MoH were flat footed to start with, and slow to respond all the way through.
        When 193 people who had come in from Wuhan on an evacuation flight were released from quarantine, NZ test numbers were still in single digits. We were virtually not testing at all.
        From 22 Jan to 8 March we had administered 300 tests, an average of 6 per day.

        Over the years, successive governments have paid large numbers of health service managers considerable sums of money to administer Vote:Health. We have also paid large sums of money for enthusiastic clipboard warriors to run around conducting Civil Defense exercises.
        Has not one of them thought to develop a Pandemic Response Plan?

        We’ve had bird flu, swine flu, cow flu, measles etc, but no one has thought to check our pandemic response preparedness? Do we not check our PPE supplies annually? Is there any truth to much of our stored supply having degraded beyond usefulness because no one had thought to rotate stock?

        https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-current-situation/covid-19-current-cases#lab
        The testing data is at the end of this document – scroll down for it.

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    • This could be a great point of differential for National. If found to be illegal, Bridges could hold up the behavior of the government and ask the voter if this is the kind of authoritarian law-ignoring regime that they want to live under for the next 3 years.

      Will he drop the ball?

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  17. In today’s offering, Newsroom have included a thought provoking article on why we in NZ have obeyed, almost without question, the dictates of Government throughout the Covid-19 lockdown.

    It notes that:

    …..”The American historian David Hackett Fischer has argued that the ultimate political value for Americans is liberty. In New Zealand, by contrast, the dominant political value is fairness”…….

    And

    …….”Qualities such as courage, endurance, and self-sacrifice are important in normal circumstances but essential to preserving our collective life during emergencies.”……

    Worth a read if you want to understand our national psyche & the effect it’s had on our history.

    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/05/04/1155032/why-did-kiwis-embrace-lockdown-so-willingly?utm_source=Friends+of+the+Newsroom&utm_campaign=308a0e42f0-Daily+Briefing+04.5.20&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_71de5c4b35-308a0e42f0-97939384

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    • ”Qualities such as courage, endurance, and self-sacrifice are important in normal circumstances but essential to preserving our collective life during emergencies.”

      Indeed.
      The first to fight,
      The first to die,
      The last to know the reason why.

      I think we are missing something..

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    • Nasska
      Americans revolted against the Crown. The fight for liberty by patriots against
      tyranny is in their DNA.
      On the other hand, NZ had been stocked with British immigrants, who had for generations
      been Royalists brought up in a class society, conditioned to never question their servitude to
      their betters . (deriving from that divine right thingy)
      The majority of my high school teachers were returned serviceman.
      The principal had been a Spitfire pilot, his deputy had been an army RSM and the 3rd down the line was ex Navy. No doubt these high school teachers were
      taught by veterans from the First World War. Taking orders and following them without question is in our DNA.

      As for the Aussies, there is still a lot of the Irish/Catholic/Convict belligerence in their make up.
      After the Breaker Morant episode, the Aussie Govt passed law so that an execution like that would never happen again. In WW1, NZ soldiers were shot by the British without protest from our Govt. No Digger met the firing squad despite the same offending.

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      • I read a book a year or so back which was the memoirs of British serviceman who was a prisoner of war and forced to build part of the infamous Burma railway.
        One thing that came out which astonished me was the British officer POWs were not expected to work and they could retain their batman to continue doing the menial duties for them. ( I thought all this stuff was left behind after WW1) The officers could walk around in clean uniforms while the workers had rags to wear. The officers did not even help in the “hospitals” –the Aussie officer medics did all the work.
        The guys doing all the work obviously saw this but there was nothing in the book that really saw them showing any rebellious resentment. They were not impressed but just accepted it.

        So I think the distinctions you highlight Toko, are correct

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        • R12…..
          My best mate’s father was a NZ sailor on a British warship captured in Singapore and he ended up on the Burma railway. Each Saturday around at the mates place, his dad would be out washing and polishing his car in the drive way, whether it needed if or not (invariably not), Even the engine well and motor were kept spic and span.
          Thinking of him and what he had endured in Burma has me in tears typing about it.

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        • I visited that area few years ago, visited the museum and walked across the bridge. It’s absolutely haunting; you stand in the graveyard and you can feel what happened all around you. It was a different time and between that tour and what we saw in Vietnam, I don’t think I can ever watch a movie about those times without trying to have a bit of perspective on it.

          And that perspective applies to other things. Growing up in South Africa, we learned about the brutality of the British and New Zealand soldiers. They locked women and children up in concentration camps and starved them to lure their men out to come fight. Arrive in Auckland, visit the musem and there’s a whole wing dedicated to the brave men of the Anglo-Boer war.

          Two very different viewpoints, probably both wrong in some way.

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  18. Watch Socialist Cindy get sarcastic with Duncan Garner when he questioned still being under Level 3. “I didn’t realise you were an epidemiologist – congratulations on your new qualification,” she said.

    Coronavirus: Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern defends decision to remain at level 3
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/05/coronavirus-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-defends-decision-to-remain-at-level-3.html

    “We wouldn’t do it earlier. Because that gives us one cycle of transmission and good data that can tell us a lot, so we wouldn’t cut that short.”

    When challenged by The AM Show host Duncan Garner about the Government’s conservative approach, the Prime Minister responded briskly to his comments.

    “I didn’t realise you were an epidemiologist – congratulations on your new qualification,” she said.

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      • She didn’t even recognise the hypocrisy of her statement when she takes medical questions from the press gallery while the Director General of Health stands twiddling his thumbs and when asked replies “I agree Prime Minister”. 😕

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    • That was a very poor and unreasonable response from the Prime Minister.

      The situation has altered since the quick move from level three to level four. The numbers do not now support the removal of freedom of movement the government imposed supposedly for our own good. The economic destruction is now at a level that is not sustainable and getting worse daily. The question from Mt Garner was reasonable in my view.

      I am not an epidemiologist either, but nor am I stupid. This lockdown has gone on too long and the will we, won’t we stuff from the PM about dropping a level is not acceptable.

      We must move past the present situation. People need to work and business needs to operate. The response from the PM does not convince me she has any plans or actual leadership to facilitate the innovation and business capacity necessary for those things to happen.

      I do not want to face movement restrictions or illegal road blockades (no matter the PM’s view on their legality) once the next level is announced. Wipe the lockdown, the job is done, get on with life and adapt to being with Covid-19 appearing in the population. Each individual will need to be responsible for their own hygiene and precautions.

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  19. She is loving all this media coverage.

    ‘The rules are there for a reason’ – Jacinda Ardern’s stern message to those flouting Level 3 restrictions

    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern this morning delivered a stern message to New Zealanders flouting Alert Level 3 rules after a flurry of prosecutions over the weekend.
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/rules-there-reason-jacinda-arderns-stern-message-those-flouting-level-3-restrictions?auto=6153863549001

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    • I watched the shift from “guidelines” to “rules” in successive sentences this morning. At this stage of life I do not need government setting life rules, or guidelines. Time they let New Zealand get on with recovering from all these guidelines and rules, and for the Police force to return to dealing with criminal matters rather than enforcing the quarantine of the healthy.

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      • Ardern does not have the legal authority to command these actions. Therefore this is a coup and we are under martial law.

        People won’t accept that. But would they have believed 2 months ago they would be under house arrest and standing in 1km lines to buy bread rations at the Party approved store?

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  21. When are the – White Knights of the Aryan Resistance – going to set up road blocks to protect white suburbs in Christchurch, with the assistance of police?

    Seems they are lagging well behind Maori racist nationalists, and organized crime figures, up North.

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  22. From ACT’s weekly newsletter

    “This typically snarky Stuff editorial from February 27 has not aged well: “ACT leader David Seymour took point-scoring a step further when he demanded that Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern return immediately from a three-day visit to Fiji to deal with a ‘worsening’ coronavirus crisis. That is a glib over-reaction by Seymour, as is the claim that ‘the New Zealand economy is at a tipping point’. Seymour’s outburst can be attributed to a desperate need to be involved in political events.” And people wonder why Stuff needs a Government bail out!

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  23. Just outside my town there is a home for the bewildered. Every afternoon, the inmates are encouraged to walk in the country lanes to get some exercise and fresh air. One inmate was strolling along, enjoying the trees and birdsong, when there was a loud screech and a huge Rolls-Royce pulled up beside him. The window wound down and who should be driving the car but his room mate. He was flabbergasted.

    “What on earth are you doing driving this car?” he asked (or words to that effect).

    “Well, half an hour ago,” his room mate explained, “I was walking along this lane just like you, when this Rolls-Royce drew up. It was driven by the most beautiful woman I’ve ever seen. She invited me to jump in the car, so I did. She drove out into the countryside, found a secluded field and then parked. She jumped out, took her knickers off and laid on the ground, saying ‘Help yourself.’ So here I am.”

    His mate thought for a minute.

    “You were quite right. Her knickers might not have fitted.”

    🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦

    One day I was taking a stroll down a country lane and passed by the same “home for the bewildered”. Behind the high wooden fence I could hear the residents chanting, “Twenty one, Twenty one, Twenty one”.
    My curiosity got the better of me. What was the chanting about? The fence was too high to look over but I did spot a conveniently placed knothole to peep through. I did so and someone on the other side of the fence poked me in the eye with a stick.
    As I walked away, I heard them chanting, “Twenty two, Twenty two, Twenty too”.

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  26. Police Commissioner confident officers ‘acted lawfully’ while enforcing Level 4 lockdown
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/police-commissioner-confident-officers-acted-lawfully-while-enforcing-level-4-lockdown?auto=6148831913001

    ACT leader David Seymour has been campaigning for weeks for Attorney-General David Parker to release the advice Crown Law gave police on enforcing the lockdown.

    Seymour says the leaked emails reaffirms his stance.

    “Whether that was because the lockdown was based on the wrong legislation or because the drafting of the initial section 70 notice was inadequate, incompetence, in the Beehive or at the Ministry of Health, has put frontline police officers on shaky legal ground.

    “There are now serious questions about whether Police officers exceeded their legal authority in carrying out checkpoints, arrests and shutting down businesses,” Seymour said.

    Coster was unable to provide an update on the number of breaches in level 3 lockdown, but said he would be able to later in the day.

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  27. Isn’t Karma a bitch…

    Hundreds of people have been exposed for reporting people who have flouted social distancing rules and some are now scared they could receive a backlash.

    The names and addresses of approximately 900 people in Missouri were released as part of a media request under the Sunshine Law, which allows for the release of information submitted to a public agency.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8282475/Missourians-tipped-county-lockdown-rule-breakers-fear-retaliation-release.html

    Another meme…..
    Man in a darkened room speaking into a telephone….
    “I would like to report someone who doesn’t believe
    the government propaganda…I also see other people
    thinking on their own…please hurry.”

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  28. Many of the draconian and totalitarian measures, now justified by referencing Covid-19, were coming anyway.

    The original plan, post the March 15 celebrations, was to implement these measures to fight the fictious threat of an imaginary “far right”. Following a media propaganda campaign to entice our population of socialist dimwits to demand the govt “do something”.

    Plans were well underway to track and monitor citizens, armed goon squads were dragging off dissidents, and the list goes on.

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  29. Talk about CoL bureaucracy getting in the way of business…

    Listening to Radio Magic. Bloke tells Sean Plunket he decided to buy his wife a bottle of wine while out and about in Tauranga yesterday so headed for the local bottle store. Passed the time of day with the guy and then requested he sell him a bottle of wine.
    “Oh” said the owner, “you’ll have to phone your purchase through”.
    “Why, who will I be speaking with”?
    “Me” says the owner, but we can’t sell it to you direct.

    As the customer said, next time he’ll just pick a bottle up while he’s in the supermarket and the local merchant will miss out again.

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  31. Murder hornets: The bee crisis slipping under the radar due to COVID-19,
    USA
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/05/murder-hornets-the-bee-crisis-slipping-under-the-radar-due-to-covid-19.html

    A killer hornet that feeds on bees and is capable of excruciating stings that can kill people has made landfall in North America, causing widespread fear among insect experts.

    The Asian giant hornet – which entomologists have dubbed the ‘murder hornet’ – are native to Japan, where their highly venomous stings are responsible for an average of 50 deaths a year.

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    • I have SKY and I have blocked TV1, totally sick of party political broadcasts. I watch prime news at 5.30 as it only goes for 30 mins and there is less time for political indoctrination. If every one on SKY blocked TV1 then they might get the message that there a huge number of us who are sick of their BS.

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    • you say
      ‘look at the difference right now ‘

      No thank you.
      Not now; not ever.

      I think I am better informed than average and have not bothered with that carry on in 40 years.
      I used to look at it when there were visual events like earthquakes or floods but that is all available on line now – sometimes whether you want it or not… with auto loading videos.

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  35. WE are absolutely fucked ,our media are balls deep into the Ardern deception……….Is this the reason this dog coalition disarmed the people as is going on in Canada right now.?

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    • I expect massive non-compliance in Canada. They have a two year amnesty and it looks like a similar buy back scheme to NZ. Don’t forget Ardern went to Canada very soon after the CHC shooting and no doubt discussed with Trudeau how to implement such a ban just as soon as a convenient mass murder happened.

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  38. Is Minister Parker any clever than the rest of the COL!
    Is he going to handed his arse?
    They are starting to ask questions about this lockdown, was it ever legal?
    Could the workers and business’s go for compo?

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      • Does it matter? If this government were to be sued they’d change the legislation retrospectively.

        We have a unicameral parliament, a Labour loving judiciary & rubberstamp Royalty. The power held by the Executive in NZ is scary!

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        • We rely on on ‘conventions’ for good behaviour by our politicians.

          We have no upper house for protection from them going rogue.

          It would be nice to get back to democracy like the Cook Islands had 30 years ago ..sarc //

          Fiji is more constitutional than NZ in 2020 .. and they keep out that TV1 riff raff.

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  39. I want to share this with you all from a poster on KB. It sums up the ‘us and them’, the separatism and special treatment for maori we currently have running in NZ right now.

    “This is what happens, as I have said time and again, when you don’t have an encompassing sense of a “New Zealand” national identity, that everyone in the country buys into and respects (however you want to define that identity, the principle is still sound. It entails a unity, not a plurality).

    Instead, we increasingly see atomised ethnic groups, whose only commonality is that they occupy the same geographic entity, but have their own group loyalties that override the national interest.

    As we see with these illegal roadblocks, the motivation is protecting “our people” (i.e. Maori). They don’t give a shit about NZ as a whole, just their own group. The rule of law can go jump as far as they are concerned. Even worse, the police (who should be impartial and totally consistent) endorse this shit. We risk rapidly descending into a quasi-Balkanisation of society.”

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    • I have long maintained that the concept of what it is to be a New Zealanders is very fuzzy. Proper nation-building and national unity require that you have a sharp image of what it is to be a New Zealander.

      Some Maori wish to be separate. If that is their wish, then are they New Zealanders?

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      • We used to have that way back when I was young man. Fathers and Mothers that came back from the war and being a Kiwi meant something. Doesn’t seem to anymore. We even stopped hopnouring our Flag. Small thing but says a lot. Lots of politics were wrong then as well but we slowly left that behind. Now its worse than ever.

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    • “As we see with these illegal roadblocks, the motivation is protecting “our people” (i.e. Maori).”

      Can you imagine if North of Auckland was rampant with Covid 19 and the good people of the Auckland area decided to put up road blocks to keep everyone (Maori included) from getting into the Auckland area..?
      Cindy and her authoritarian Police would have a field day !~

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    • How exactly is Jacinda ‘The Mad Queen’ Ardern the most popular Prime Minister in a generation??
      She only got 36% of the vote at the last Election and her preferred PM polling has never been as high as either Helen Clark or John Key in their prime…

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    • Bloody good article by Damian Grant. Thanks for posting Ross.

      “But attacking the competence of Jacinda Ardern’s pandemic response, Robertson’s lolly scramble and Clark’s quarantine busting antics isn’t going to be enough. National needs an economic plan. A real one; not some pithy discussion document that asks more questions than provides answers.

      The stakes are higher than any election since 1984 because a second-term Ardern Government will have a mandate and an appetite for the largest expansion of the state since Robert Muldoon’s Think Big schemes and endless tinkering beggared the country.”

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  41. By Jason Stewart*

    It would seem a simple piece of logic that you isolate or quarantine a sick person, not a healthy one.

    I am penning this in response to what I see as abuse of powers in New Zealand during the Covid-19 events.

    On the face of it the lockdown doesn’t seem that contentious, but I first saw my unease paralleled by law firm Franks-Ogilvie, headed by former Act MP Stephen Franks. As both lawyer and former MP he is surely well placed to understand the legal complexities. Then there is the opinion of two Law Professors from the UK. Both of these articles refer to “Ultra Vires”, drawing power from the legislation that is not there to be taken. Opposition MP’s Mark Mitchell and David Seymour have called for the Crown Law advice on the matter to be disclosed. Now it turns out that even senior Police knew the Government was overstepping the mark in ordering them to enforce the rules.

    So a serious question over the legality of the lockdown does exist.

    more; https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/104830/jason-stewart-worried-we-have-crossed-line-using-police-and-health-professionals

    ’m concerned The Police are acting as the coercive arm of the state. I don’t want to live in a Police state. I don’t want government interference that undermines the basics of good community policing as laid down by Robert Peel.

    A must read.

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  42. There is no chance in hell of us getting out of Level 3 in the forseeable future.
    The Mad Queen is clawing on to the power any way she can…She cares not a jot about suicides or job losses !
    I think New Zealanders are just going to revolt against this bullcrap and start going about their daily business (We already saw that with people enjoying the Beach on the weekend)
    Fight back New Zealand!!

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      • She’s (or her minders have) been sniffing the wind.
        Originally She was going to make an announcement on Mon 11th May about whether Lockdown 3 would end…
        Cabinet would decide on May 11 whether to move out of alert level 3.
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12326157

        Now we’re going to get a taster teaser this Thursday

        If more bad news about her Government comes out this week, I suspect she’ll be drip-feeding us a couple of little freedoms .

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        • She didn’t appear at 1pm and then announced a press statement at 4pm after caucus. I thought here we go she’s sniffed the air and “could smell the uranium on our breath”. Nah, she just needed some limelight to remind us that she is in charge and will decide when she deems the time is right.

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        • Bit of a no-brainer for the hare-brainer, Maggy.
          She’ll announce on Thursday that she’s dropping to L2 because it’s Mothers’ Day on Sunday. She’s taken control of the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny, so to give us permission to hold Mothers’ Day would be amaze balls and we’d all be ever so grateful.

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    • I think she has to let everybody out of jail as it’s starting to get embarrassing for her!
      The compentcey of her Health Minister, Health Dept, Police Minister, Police Commissioner are all starting to be questioned! She has lost some of them arguments already!
      She has to divert the attention off herself this close to the election, by letting us out of detention and give a time frame for travel to and from Australia!
      Just wait till Whinestone gets his pinkies into that meeting! There’s no way she’s having that by herself, without him!
      She owns the greens, but not him!

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  43. Watched tv1 news to night. They had a mobile trailer in Christchurch starting to do elective surgeries again. Someone came out of the trailer to wipe down the handrails with sanitizer. I would suggest that they reach around the handrails to get the back as well! The bugs hide there, don’t ya know!!

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    • If there’s a graduated drug test on offer then I haven’t heard about it. There are relatively quick saliva tests that will show that marijuana has been consumed within the past X days but it won’t confirm impairment. That will require a blood test or at minimum a doctor’s certificate that the person was incapable of driving safely.

      In any case meth is the drug for risk taking & aggression. Concentrate on those who cause the problems.

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  45. Some of the most expensive decisions ever made by a New Zealand government will receive no scrutiny from its economic watchdog after Cabinet suspended Regulatory Impact Analysis (RIA), due to Covid-19.

    Government decisions are accompanied by an RIA published by Treasury, which analysis the impacts of any changes, including an estimate of how much they’re likely to cost.

    Even when the Government moves quickly, it usually produces some form of assessment of regulatory changes. The gun buyback scheme, for example, was given an 18 page “Supplementary Analysis Report ‘ written by police and released by Treasury.

    But a Cabinet minute from 23 March reveals that the Government has decided to release itself from these obligations, where they relate to the impacts of the new coronavirus.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300004126/government-suspends-financial-oversight?cid=facebook.post&fbclid=IwAR0AVNYBvSHGThywP40FaM86IkR0SULSJrzXbTNFEWc6G9oF8qAjkBYA7AQ

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  46. I read the discussion here, where people react with logic, derision and reason. I read the adulation that Ardern is given on social media and the lack of reason show. People dispute that she said 75% of our economy is running. Point out the quote and they revert back to amazeballs.

    Today I am 44 and a bit years old and I have realised Ardern will win a second term. New Zealand will cease to exist as a functional democracy under her and over the course of the next 6 to 9 years our economy and society will collapse.

    I am now looking to leave. I cannot see this changing. I cannot see rationality winning out over the cult.

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    • I still have faith in the silent majority. Kiwis don’t tend to complain too loudly. We whinge to friends and family and wait for the next election to vote out the mess. As Damian Grant said, this is the most important election since 1984. As one who lived through and voted I agree with him. This election is desperate for NZ’s future.

      Enjoy the best electoral advert ever put out by the National govt.
      https://nzhistory.govt.nz/media/video/dancing-cossacks

      National was trying to turn voters against the Labour government by suggesting that the latter’s recently introduced compulsory superannuation scheme might lead to Soviet-style Communism (conveniently ignoring the fact that the Cossack peoples had traditionally been opponents of the Bolsheviks). It did the trick too, helping sweep Robert Muldoon’s National Party into power in a landslide victory.

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      • That was brilliant.
        I think it was only shown once or twice , if at all.

        But was talked about plenty.
        It therefore worked.

        Oddly enough what the ad suggested has come to pass.
        The COL are using ACC funds and NZ Super to buy assets up and to use for similar for ‘off govt Balance sheet loans’ to make Govt borrowing look less.

        Plus, Bill Rowling was a complete mong!

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      • Waikato@1922

        Given the current Nats’ lack ‘Foundational Principles or of policies on anything, I doubt we will ever see similar ads again.

        Thank you for the reminder.

        BTW: Reminds me of the old ‘Accountant’s; joke: What does 2 +2 equal? Answer: ‘Anything you want it to be’.

        The NZ National Party seems to give a similar answer…

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    • Sadly, the window when you can do that has now closed. You needed to have sold up all your NZ-domiciled assets prior to the end of 2019. Now that stoopid Cindy has butt-fucked the economy – you will be taking a massive bath on liquidating your assets. And going forward I think it’s clear we are going to see the fascist COL leverage up the top rate of income tax, GST will smash upwards, and the bitch will cum in her panties because she’s going to use this crisis to introduce a 15% capital gains tax. Property will be seized if Cindy thinks the indigent aren’t getting enough. We’ll see South African style caps on the movement of assets out of NZ.

      I sincerely hope you have the ability to start over again – but you will have your asset wealth stripped off you in complete accord with standard Marxist doctrine.

      MMP brought us here- a far more deadly affliction than CCP virus ever could be.

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  47. Things Conservatives believe:

    1) Jesus loves them & shares their hatred of homosexuals & liberals.

    2) That those with views dissimilar to the majority may restrict the fair practice of those in the majority if their Skydaddy says so.

    3) That if parents & teachers don’t mention sex to a child until he/she is 25 then he/she won’t even know it exists until then.

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  49. There was talk last week of a bluetooth enabled app for smartphones that is capable of detecting a user’s proximity to someone who has been close to a likely carrier of the virus. (or at least that’s the way I read it).

    Question: Could an employer force a worker to use such a device & inspect it at will?

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    • It the app works like the one in Oz I have no problem.

      The data is keep on you phone and just you phone number goes the the person you were near. There is no central database.

      If you test positive you have to give them permission to access the phone numbers so the can contact the people you were near.

      Peta Credlin is no mug and she will use it.

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  53. Late again, sorry about that. Spinach mine and all that. Some of us are still paying through the nose for the nephs to stay on the couch, or beer crate, whatever takes the fancy.

    Look past all the distraction – ooh some poofed up git went for a bike ride. Some other fag threw some money around. Some horse faced mole bought some fucking earrings. Who did this, who said that.

    It’s all a distraction. YOU are distracted, completely and utterly.

    THE question;

    How did we get to where we are right now?

    THE answer;

    WE let it happen. Slowly but surely. WE didn’t stop it from happening.

    WE, collectively, as a society, have let it get this bad. I’m not talking about some boo hoo flu.

    Will we have the gumption, as an organised collective to stop it going to it’s conclusion?
    Or will we one day shy away from our children and grand children’s gaze in shame, and be thought of as part of the problem?

    Our forebears must be gnashing their teeth in anguish over how soft we are in the face of adversity.

    When will we rise

    Will we ever do it?

    In this country, I highly highly doubt it.

    God defend NZ, pfft, defend the fucking thing yourselves!

    Kiwis have become a bunch of fucking pussy cuckholds.

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