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This from Cactis Kate. I have no words to describe my anger and disgust.
I hate you with a passion, Ardern.
“His Children At School With 100’s But His Funeral With Only 10.”
This tragic story shows us absolutely everything that is wrong with the Cult of Jacinda Ardern and her definition of “kindness” that has been lauded worldwide.
Roy Green owned the Mad Butcher Pukekohe with his wife. They have two children. He was by accounts a popular member of the local community. His business ran into trouble pre-Covid, he had “personal issues” and he spoke of the effect on himself during the lockdown period.
The shop was making more than $92,000 a week before level four lockdown, but sales dried up when his was forced to close his doors.
‘The money I do have in the bank is all going for outgoings at the moment … it’s a tough struggle,’ Green said.
‘I spend nights awake in bed, some nights I’ve sat there crying, wondering what I’m gonna do next.’
The shop was turning over $92,000 a week. This would not have been his profit so the number is irrelevant. His debts on buying the business five years ago as a 33 year old, would have been very large and we do not know or need to know of the actual margins he was making.
Green had not taken a holiday in five years so tried to put a positive spin on having the time away from his business, using the kindness and happiness bubble that New Zealand is currently experiencing as unlike Green, the distorted reality of the financial effects of Covid have been suppressed by wage subsidies.
Meanwhile Green’s financial life was falling apart as despite the Ministry of Health advising Jacinda Ardern that it was safe for some butchers to operate at level 4 and Ardern stating always they were taking advice, she did not let them. She let supermarkets have the monopoly on providing meat. Last week on Tuesday the Green’s business went into liquidation.
On Friday and Saturday Mr Green would have read headlines like this that would have compounded the misery and turmoil clearly gathering surrounding his life:
He killed himself on Sunday night. Mothers Day. On Monday as Jacinda Ardern was announcing the decision to finally move to Level 2, playing God again as to when businesses can and cannot open, the ghoulishly announced daily infection and body counts came out that there were 3 new and probable cases and no deaths.
That was wrong.
There was one death.
Roy Green, 38, the youngest publicly known victim of Covid-19 to date. His death was caused more likely by Covid-19 than 70 and 80 year olds already in poor health and with underlying conditions.
Jacinda Ardern disclosed contents of a letter (I mean who still sends those?) on Monday supposedly from a mother with a son allegedly with immunity issues. She did not read a letter from Roy Green’s mother thanking her and never will. For if she is still alive, Mrs Green after celebrating Mothers Day, would have been told the news that her son had killed himself.
If Ardern wishes to use personalised stories of people who laud her and love her for political purpose she has to properly acknowledge the costs to others for her to receive these love notes. The costs of mothers with sons with “immunity issues” who will never feel safe until they are immunised will be paid by mothers with sons with businesses that will fail because of the impending armageddon that heads are in the sand over. There is no immunity for that.
Mr Green’s narrative is going to have an even unhappier ending.
Mr Green’s children if they are of age, can go to school next Monday with hundreds of other children.
Yet they will only be allowed to attend his funeral with their mother and seven others. The clipboard carriers probably count the director and the deceased, so make that five.
I hope every butcher in Auckland turns up anyway along with all his friends in the community and forces the Police to intervene. As a silent and dignified protest for the loss of trading under these silly rules that in the very end made one of their own’s last month a very very unhappy one.
We have to ask ourself why this sad death serves the extremist Marxist agenda though
And as all things to do with stoopid Cindy, the answer is barely a whisker away when you refer to what I like to refer to as the “The Book of Cunts” – the set of rules that governs every decision acted out by the CoL.
If we want to find out why the Pukekohe Mad Butcher was forced to close and yet local supermarket butcheries were open – we go to one of the foundational principles laid out in the Book of Cunts… “Though shalt not do anything that hurts THE UNIONS”. And of course a moment’s reflection will discern that supermarkets are heavily unionised and the Pukekohe Mad Butcher is not – ergo the gospel according to the Book of Cunts allows for supermarket butcheries to trade, but not for small (Kulak self-employed/franchisee) butchers to trade. Simple.
Let’s take another example. Why was the CoL so keen on closing down Charter Schools immediately they took office – even though they’d been quiet about it on the campaign trail. Well everyone knows that the unions absolutely loathed Charter Schools as they were able to pay more for competence. So of course, simple, according to the Book of Cunts – Charter Schools could be put to the sword as it would benefit the unions so greatly.
Why are bars closed – same principle – largely staffed by a casualised work force. No harm to union members if they’re closed as a punishment for an extra week. However, pack people into trains (ie maximising the likelihood of infection) no problem because if people were kept off trains it would hurt the heavily unionised train worker as it would increase the likelihood of layoffs as train travel is logically one of the highest risk forms of travel one can take if you were really serious about Covid risk minimisation.
See how this non-unionised fellow was just as acceptable casualty to Jacinda – she was only following the teachings contained in the Book of Cunts.
(Sorry for bad language – but this poor fellow’s death is particularly upsetting and has caused an upwelling of feeling in me)
Your first paragraph sums up exactly how any sane compassionate person feels about our PM.
Why is it always the lefties who by their actions or inactions make us feel this rage and contempt?
And to REALLY rub the salt, I have been told (possibly incorrectly), that halal (ie muslim) butchers have been permitted to remain open throughout the entire time.
Is this in fact the case?
Thank you.
It is in fact the case. They granted a special exemption for Halal Butchers.
Posted on FB. spread the word. We need to rid ourselves of this bitch.
ditto
I’m banned still. Badge of honour if you ask me.
Copied and pasted to Going Postal in the UK too.
Yesterday Ardern was asked for reaction to the Bunnings closure with 145 job losses.
She said they had been able to use ‘click n collect’ during this time. Not so useful if the customers are imprisoned in their homes, many on reduced incomes, and a thousand a day are losing their jobs.
Roy Green didn’t even have that option.
May I suggest every one one Roy Green’s friends and relations cuts his death notice from the newspaper and mails it to this incompetent harridan. Why should the bitch sleep at night.
Click and collect is, frankly, useless. Add to that the fact that a large percentage of Bunning’s turnover stems from impulse purchases by shoppers physically browsing their stores and it just shows how out of touch the commie bitch is.
Yes, Alice.
Bunnings know that – the commie bitch doesn’t.
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/nzherald-nz/obituary.aspx?n=roy-john-alexander-green&pid=196177801
When the meanness is always accurate, isn’t it just grown-up to call it what it is? The Truth?
On Friday when the most secretive and duplicitous PM ever, issued a flat-out gag order that was (thankfully) leaked. There were lots of mean, horrible, non-kind people who were taking the piss out of the most secretive and duplicitous PM ever – predicting that she’d be entirely predictable and trigger another one of those spew-up-in-one’s mouth Clarke & Neve puff pieces.
So cruel, so unkind, so sexist, so white supremacist, race-baiting, mysogenistic – but wait! OMG – it was so accurate! She is that shallow, she is that disgusting. She does think we’re idiots. She is that cynical. Her playbook is so empty. She is a pathetic one-trick horse.
Right on cue out rolls another nauseating #PimpMyKid low from the most revolting PM ever. There is nothing sacred to this revolting pair. The hypocrisy of asking for Neve not to be politicised, and then hiding behind an infant like this whenever she monumentally fucks up is a clear indication of the unplumbed depths of depravity from the most evil PM we’ve ever seen.
And if you ever needed proof that the devoted worshippers of the false idol Cindy are thicker than pig shit – how is a two year old child going to put together a card like this. At that age she barely knows if she’s shit herself, let alone understand the concept of a card. Only a certified fucktard would even think for a second that it was “Neve’s card to her mum”! Propaganda to distract the useful idiots.
Right on cue alright, DP. That’s what I was thinking when I read that shit this morning. I do wonder though, why they mention that fuckwit stray she tries to keep on the porch. Surely that can’t help be beneficial to her rotten cause.
The final vote is due today.
National votes against Government’s alert level 2 enforcement Bill
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/05/national-votes-against-government-s-alert-level-2-enforcement-bill.html
The National Party has voted against the first and second reading of an urgent Bill being passed through Parliament which would grant the Government powers to enforce the rules of coronavirus alert level 2.
The Bill is being treated as time-sensitive and needs to be in place for 11:59pm on Wednesday when the country enters level 2.
“The Government is rushing through legislation to give itself powers to put in place what it says is needed for Level 2 response to COVID -19,” she posted on Facebook on Tuesday.
“Enforcement Officers – whoever they are- will have powers to enter premises and close down enterprises. Police will have the power to enter your home without a warrant. This is madness!
“The National Party must support the rule of law and not stand by and support the latest political decree.”
Waikatogirl@0718
This was telling
‘However Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern defended the urgent Bill saying a pandemic was not the time for politics’.
Her daily ‘Look at Me aren’t I wunnerful’ media moment would seem to disprove the statement…
Of course it is political. She is holding onto the covid-19 spotlight as long as possible and will not give up her daily briefings where she gets to inform the country what a kind and caring leader she is. Unfortunately for Socialist Cindy we are sick to death of her false smile, condescending tone and bony finger pointed at us naughty children. She expects us to make sense of her random selection of who can and who can’t be together and which business is eligible to open or not. There is no rhyme nor reason to many of her decisions. Yesterday she informed us that nobody wants to play rugby until June, and dismissed Bunnings staff losing their jobs with the closing of 7 stores because Bunnings “had online purchasing”. Not so caring Ardern.
At yesterday’s briefing she trotted out the weekend inherited a run down health system’ line.
What is that if not political? … and a lie.
Britain had a run down health system
First in the period 2004 to 2007 when shitholes joined the EU and the ‘new europeans’ went on Medical vacations/shopping spree.
Then from the GFC they have run ‘austerity’ as an official policy and the medical sector has become very run dowm.
This shows in 2020.
In NZ there was curtailing until until 2013 then more targeted spend.
“”Just another lie “”
ArDoom said
‘nobody wants to play rugby until June’
I saw that in your link yesterday
I thought that was weird.
In May, grounds tend to be better condition
By June- after Q Bday – it is colder; knocks and injuries hurt more in colder weather; and mud is more prevalent.
To the tune of Just a Gigolo
“”Just another lie “”
Similar with Netball, league and soccer.
Cindy’s response to “nobody wants to play rugby until June” was in response to Duncan Garner who can’t wait to get back to training his son’s league team. The COL’s planning for Level 2 has only allowed for business, ie professional teams to start play so she was caught on the hop when Garner insisted on an answer. Another “Ardernism” – make it up when you get called out.
That bill is shocking on so many levels.
* Director General of Health given the power to make long term orders.
* “Enforcement officers” can enter your home, no warrant needed.
* No recourse to complain if “enforcement officers” abuse their power.
* Law is for 2 years, not the duration of Covid-19. No review by parliament.
It’s in essence code for “Oh yay! Police state!”
Time for National to announce that a National Govts first measure would be repeal of the bill and all its effects retrospectively.
Here’s the bit that I don’t like. David Seymour has explained it; but I think he has gone a bit too “purist politics” rather than attack dog, for the first time Simon Bridges may have outdone him. (Holy fuck!)
David Seymour voted for this bill to pass the first two readings. His reasoning as he explained to :
* to get it to the Committee Stage faster, so they can propose amendments
* opposing it in the first two readings would have been symbolic only
* stalling this leaves us in the same position we had under level 4; where police are operating outside the law
He’s right. But all the public sees is “ACT, the people that stand for our democracy voted for this bill“
You have nailed it. He is not consistent. Voted against the first bill at the first stage, but votes for this one.
I wouldn’t call it inconsistent, but his reasoning is too convoluted unless you’re a policy wonk.
Basically, we can’t have a situation where Level 2 has the same lack of legal rules as Level 4. We also can’t delay Level 2 while the government works out what their legal rules should be, because we all know Ardern makes it up as she goes along.
So the compromise is to work with the legislation and to do so in a timely manner, but to make it safe for us. That means voting the first two readings to get it to the point where we can make the changes to the bill so that it can be in place before Thursday.
The risk is, and I think it’s a big one, that Ardern will ignore any amendments because this police state is making her juicy and happy. And her compliant media will praise her while selling our souls and liberty for money and adulation.
I agree. It is a classic case of “explaining is losing” and I have had Cindy lovers gleefully pointing it out, and media articles saying Act supported the bill, while neglecting the details or the 3rd reading vote. I dont see how voting against it stops proposing amendments.
Reality is that Local Government has already taken the “ right to enter property “ for its enforcement officers .They do not need to give prior notice only leave a note to say they have been..
As they said on KB we are one of the most bullied nations on earth.
And it is rapidly getting worse.
Sets a dangerous precedent, irrespective of who does the property entering once you legitimise it, it becomes OK for others (Angry public) to do the same.
“I’ll never let the team of 5 million down,never” FFS is this woman auditioning for a place in a Hollywood disaster movie and is she smart enough to realise that the 5 million are about to live through that disaster movie in real life with her running the show ?
Mark Richardson on TV3 this morning hit it on the head and I never thought of it because it is so disgusting,,Ardern is striving to be the first country in the world to eliminate Coronavirus and damn the financial ruin it will inflict upon the entire country as long as she can appear before the fawning international media once more.
revtech
‘Stuff the peons and kulaks, aren’t I just so awesome, beneficent and wonderful’ is the narrative
(And not a media sceptic anywhere in sight…)
Komata ,We dont have a Media in the socialist haven of NZ,only a state sponsored propaganda arm ,50 million buys a lot of good press.
Thankfully Mark Richardson has regained his man balls and is speaking out again,I’m guessing he has nothing to lose as TV3 will be gone by Xmas.
Sold all their buildings in the last week.
https://www.interest.co.nz/property/104965/sale-tv3s-studios-and-associated-buildings-was-jewel-bayleys-recent-commercial
She is still aiming to get one of those Nobel prizes.
With all her recently revealed knowledge about the virus, she will be up for the chemistry one.
With all her compassion, feelz and actions, she will get the peace one.
With all her amazing letter she writes to our suicide victims, she will win the literature one.
Oh wouldn’t it be great if she won all three.
Never done before. Neve will be so proud.
I propose an original Nobel prize which is stuffed up the winners arse and the fuse lit.
I was listening to a podcast last week about how Nobel started his company and it’s rise. Search for American innovations in your podcast app and listen to it yourself. The one on the starting of kellogs was interesting.
I listen to these things when working. Passes the time.
I have to stop the forklift to listen sometimes.
The boss has learnt not to say anything after getting an ear full of vitriol and abuse.
Gang members might get a warning, a slap on the wrist from the police. 🙄
Police considering prosecutions, warnings after large gang funeral in Matamata
Warnings or prosecutions are being considered by police after a large gang funeral in Matamata yesterday openly flouted Alert Level 3 rules.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/content/tvnz/onenews/story/2020/05/12/police-considering-prosecutions-warnings-after-large-gang-funer.html
At least 60 people gathered to farewell a gang member at the Matamata Cemetery.
There also appeared to be officials with name tags recording people’s details while six or seven police vehicles were seen outside the cemetery.
One neighbour thought it was a checkpoint, and another man who stopped said it was “ridiculous” that such a large gathering was happening, when everyone else was following the rules.
Of course it has nothing to do with their gang is bigger than the poolice gang!
Christiansen took the matter to the Auckland High Court, where he won the case sparking a review of applications just like his.
So far eight of 32 similar declined applications have been overturned upon review, according to the Ministry of Health.
Yesterday, the Christiansen family bubble together watched the Prime Minister’s 4pm announcement – only to be dealt another blow.
Despite information on the Government’s Covid-19 website that stated at alert level 2 up to 100 people could attend a funeral, Jacinda Ardern announced only 10 people were to be permitted.
It prompted more tears for the grieving family who planned for many more to attend the service.
“It’s excruciating. Our family were in a state of shock yesterday,” Christiansen told the Herald.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331376
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Fuck the labour Party.
Time for the Gov, General to boot them out forever.
I missed the daily briefing yesterday. Did Cindy say it was only 10 at a funeral and Winestone say it was 100?
Winston says only 10 allowed at the Tangi – ie at the graveside, but total of 100 allowed if you include those gathered “at the fence”. Then he says all 100 can go on to the after-match in “groups of 10”. Total wind-up for #commsgirl, but shows the stupidity of her micromanaging rules.
Do not forget the other parties to the current Coalition. They are just as culpable and none should be considered for re-election.
Is Whinstone starting his election campaigning!
Dig with the CCP flue!
Money for racing certainly helps some!
Just wait for fishings tonmorrow!
This is a disgusting take over and absolutely incredible that the watermelons and Winy first party would support this. Its a good way of this country being taken over by the communistic bitch and her party of despots. This has never before happened in New Zealand and should NEVER happen. Great that National has spoken out about it and alerted us to the fact we are being taken over. It is a complete take over and if the retards who vote Liebr cannot see that and still think she is the one who must be obeyed, they are as fucked in the head as ever. Once this is passed into law that is IT people. We are absolutely fucked.
When are the people of New Zealand or the sheep followers of Jacinda Ardern going to wake up to the fact that they are being played like a fiddle by our not so kind Prime Minister.
First it was Clare Curran and the lies over RNZ, then it was the Immigration saga with drug smuggler Karel Sroubek and why he gained residency with very good friends of our Prime Minister giving references, which turned out messy with Jacinda running for cover looking for someone else to blame.
Then came the Treasury hack with Jacinda, Grant and Winston spewing lies about National being responsible when in fact they new it was their own incompetence.
Then we had the Young Labour Summer Camp sexual assault which Jacinda also attended with under age people getting plastered on alcohol with their chaperons obviously turning a blind eye and a young person till this day fight for name Suppression with some suggestions that a high ranking Labour MP could be a parent of the perpetrator.
But days later another Sexual assault hit the headlines and Jacinda’s standards dropped lower than many would like to remember when a young intern working in Parliament accused a senior and valued Labour Party officer out of Jacinda Arderns office of sexual assault with others In the LabourParty including Jacinda trying to sweep under the carpet to limit the damage, now this should have been referred to the Police but Labour thought they new and the cover up continued and the young Lass hung out to dry.
So to tell Mike Hosking that the memo sent to other MP’s that they were to talk to media on any of the material dump by the Coalition just before the Parliamentary Press Gallery went home for the weekend because the voter liked what the Government was doing was more of the arrogance and lies like this , never saw it and never signed off on it, PM says leaked Email from her office had language she would never have used .
So just like most of her excuses and lies it is like coming from someone that that can’t help herself in the need to tell the truth.
I’ll put the link up later when it is posted. I have little time for Brian Tamaki but he shoved it right up Cindy this morning on the AM Show. 😂👏👏👏👏👏
I wonder whether if it was National in Government with Act whether Duncan fatboy Garner might have sided with Brian if they were pushing the same bill.
Coronavirus: Simon Bridges lashes out at Government’s alert level 2 funeral restrictions, justifies why National voted against enforcement Bill
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/05/coronavirus-simon-bridges-lashes-out-at-government-s-alert-level-2-funeral-restrictions-justifies-why-national-voted-against-enforcement-bill.html
There is confusion and anger as hospitality and cinemas are allowed maximum groups of 100. Funeral directors and grieving families on Tuesday called on Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern to alter the rules.
National leader Simon Bridges said the rules for funerals were outrageous.
“It’s not kind – it’s inhumane in fact,” he told The AM Show on Wednesday.
The article has censored the comment by Brian Tamaki when he called “Ardern a Marxist”
Brian Tamaki, Duncan Garner clash in fiery debate over Destiny Church service, alert level 2 legislation
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/05/brian-tamaki-duncan-garner-clash-in-fiery-debate-over-destiny-church-service-alert-level-2-legislation.html
But Tamaki is urging his followers to “stand up together for our freedoms”, claiming Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and the Government are robbing New Zealanders of their “liberties and rights” by denying mass congregations of worship.
“They’re breaching the Bill of Rights by containing us to just 10 people. We’ve got restaurants, cinemas, bars, clubs, schools, malls, rugby games – they’re all allowed the green light with no limits. So it’s obvious [that] the church has been targeted,” Tamaki told The AM Show on Wednesday morning.
“She’s using the power of a public that’s been duped by her deception and front.”
He also lambasted the alert level 2 enforcement legislation currently before Parliament – which will allow the Government greater power to reinforce alert level protocol – as the “most dangerous bill that’s ever been placed in Parliament”.
“If this bill passes, which I think it will, New Zealanders need to do something, we need to make a stand, maybe go out in the streets and let her know by numbers that we’re going to fight this Government out.”
“You’re promoting anarchy,” Garner shot back.
“It’s not anarchy… we need to let this Government know we’re not going to be bullied, our rights and our freedoms to work and to live… that’ll be taken from us if this bill is passed,” Tamaki said.
Well, he’s standing up to her. Will be interesting to witness the kindness heading Brian’s way.
What Brian forgets is that Ardern pays his worshippers and that he only takes money from them.
Yes he is a religious parasite but at least people have the option to get involved with him or not. Not so our Dear Leader who is imposing her Marxist beliefs on an unsuspecting, brainwashed public. Her crocodile smile is beguiling for those who are unaware of how dangerous she is.
Yeah, badly written comment. I was thinking more of:
* Would his followers listen to the lady with the crocodile smile who pays them?
* Would his followers listen to him who takes money from them?
Maybe belief overrides their pockets, I don’t know.
Mike Reddell is before the committee at 11 am.
Unfortunately I am working but will try and watch later.
What’s the bet they use those panty wearing aviation security plebs as jackboot wearing enforcement officers. “Knock knock..Aviation Security..we’re coming in” ” No your not”.
“I’ve got got a Gray Nicholls and a Gunn & Moore that says you’re not”
Loved the old Gray Nicolls Powerspot back in the day! A superbly weighted and balanced piece of willow.
The GM bats were heavier and ‘meatier’ but it was all about balance and timing for this moderately successful club cricketer…
You missed out BANG as the shotgun protects the owner in fear of his life from potential murderers. Hopefully a Jury would understand the reaction.
I think the lady who does the CCP flue voiceover adverts has ruined her future work prospects.
Me I would not even buy toilet tissue if she was in the advert!
Where are Ngapuhi in all this, why are they not supporting their people with housing?
Campervan fleet sent to Northland to help ease homelessness amid lockdown
A fleet of campervans has been sent to Northland to help ease homelessness during the Covid-19 lockdown.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/campervan-fleet-sent-northland-help-ease-homelessness-amid-lockdown?auto=6155977416001
One family to benefit is Tisha Noa, Billy and their two children, who had stayed in a derelict caravan for around four months after Billy had a stroke.
“I got cold when it was dripping because the roof was dripping on my bed,” their 12-year-old daughter, Peti, said.
Billy described the experience as “cold, wet, miserable”, with Ms Noa adding that there had been no heating or water.
“It was more of a worry for Billy’s health,” she explained.
The family of four are now living in a mobile home, which Billy described as “beautiful”.
“I love the people that have given it to us,” he said.
Ah, we’re coming up to a budget and soon after an election. New Zealand once more has homeless people sleeping in cars. How will Jacinda Ardern use and abuse them this time?
The latest legislation covering Level 2 is entering dangerous territory but excluding any process to hold the Crown’s enforcers responsible for their actions is completely over the top. No person or body of people should ever be allowed such power.
……”He also proposed introducing a safeguard against abuse of power by creating an accountability mechanism for Enforcement Officers who are engaged by the Director-General to enter premises, shut down businesses, and issue fines.”……
David Seymour is onto it. National have never seen a piece of oppressive legislation they didn’t like but let’s hope this is an exception.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/beehive-live/121491656/coronavirus-government-battles-to-urgently-pass-new-law-for-alert-level-2
So on the day they’re passing into law the ability for police to enter your house without a warrant if they suspect you’ve got more than 10 people there, we learn this:
NZ Police trialled facial recognition tech without clearance
Another one for the IT savvy people. More and more expert IT people are ripping Prof Ferguson’s model/programming to shreds
https://chrisvoncsefalvay.com/2020/05/09/imperial-covid-model/
https://streetwiseprofessor.com/code-violation-other-than-that-how-was-the-play-mrs-lincoln/
The full overview from James Delingpole :
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/05/12/delingpole-critics-pile-in-on-professor-lockdowns-dodgy-dossier/
Even if you do not understand the technical detail ( like me !) I think it is worth sharing these reviews to people who might follow it better.
Prof Ferguson’s model/programming was the “excuse” that authoritarians were looking for. No wonder they grabbed it with both hands and ran with it. No surprises there.
Just saw this on another blog Odakyn-sen
“Professor Robert Dingwall, a member of the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (Nervtag) which feeds into Sage, warns that “frankly modelling is not that much of an upgrade on crystal balls”.
Sage = ” The Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) provides scientific and technical advice to support government decision makers during emergencies.” In the UK.
They’re not wrong. A good, quality code base has a few key attributes that they have ignored.
You try to separate concerns. Take a model of this nature, for example. If you want to have an object simulating an interaction between people you’d have a base interaction class that exposes the common methods. (May even be templated) You’ll then add implementations / derivatives thereof such as CloseFaceToFaceInteraction or OverTheCounterServiceInteraction, etc. This helps keep your code simple and atomic, one thing deals only with what it is concerned with. Not so in their code base, they basically have one gigantic thing that tries to deal with almost everything in the same place.
Self-documenting. If you’re good at writing code, you’ll write it so that another developer can come over, read it and understand it without needing to reference documentation. If you manage to do that without needing commentary in your code, even better. Your first layer of documentation though is commentary in the code; something that explains to other developers what your thinking was and what the purpose of code is. And then your next layer is external documentation. They have almost none of this. Even worse, their naming conventions are poor. Let me try to illustrate:
bool Person.CheckIfHasCovid( )
{
// A person has Covid if their temperature is greater than average normal temperature, they have lost their sense of taste and they have lost their sense of smell.
// This routine deliberately ignores people who have Covid-19 already so they are not double counted.
if( Temperature > 37.5 && HasLostSmell == true && HasLostTaste == true && HasCovid == false)
{
HasCovid = true;
}
return HasCovid;
}
I’d hope you are able to read that and understand what it says. (It’s not perfect, but illustrative!) Their code base would do the equivalent of:
float n = 37.5
bool i = true;
bool j = true;
bool p;
p = false;
if( k >= n ) { if ( l == i ) { if ( j == m ) p = true; } } }
(Maybe not quite that bad, but you hopefully get the point) One you can read and understand, the other performs the same function but good luck understanding it.
Where that also makes a difference is when it comes to refactoring and testing the code base. They have no unit testing across their code base, so if I make a change in the function I cannot guarantee that it works in all cases. Normally what you’d want to do is:
* If a person has a temperature of 34 degrees, and have lost their sense of taste and smell they do not have Covid-19.
* If a person has a temperature of 37.5 degrees and have lost their sense of taste and smell they do not have Covid-19.
* If a person has a temperature of 39 degrees and have lost their sense of taste but not their sense of smell they do not have Covid-19.
* If a person has a temperature of 39 degrees and have lost their sense of taste and smell they have Covid-19.
* If a person has Covid-19 they cannot get Covid-19 again at the same time.
* etc.
You have basic unit tests that you can apply. Now, if I go and change the code to this:
bool Person.CheckIfHasCovid( )
{
// A person has Covid if their temperature is greater than average normal temperature, they have lost their sense of taste and they have lost their sense of smell.
// This routine deliberately ignores people who have Covid-19 already so they are not double counted.
if( Temperature >= 37.5 && HasLostSmell == true && HasLostTaste == true && HasCovid == false)
{
HasCovid = true;
}
return HasCovid;
}
(The >= means greater than or equals to) then my second test will fail. So when I build my code into something a computer can execute, I get a failure and know that I’ve broken one of the rules my code needs to follow. That may be correct; the rule may need to be updated but at least there is a trigger to say – something is no longer what we expect it to be.
That gets even worse in their code base though. Very high-level, you have multiple threads of execution that can operate in a pseudo-parallel way. You may have one thread trying to read the value of Pascal.Temperature and you may have another thread trying to set the value of Pascal.Temperature. If you do not control access to Pascal.Temperature, your code is not thread safe as you cannot guarantee who will win in that scenario. Will the one trying to set my temperature win? Or will the one trying to read my temperature win? So when you run the code multiple times, you may get different, random results. Their thread safety is done poorly. It’s been about 15 years since I’ve been at that level of code, so I can’t speak to the in-depth compiler related components referenced in some of the articles.
Anyway, basic principle.
Their code base is a pile of shit and not even John Carmack can undo the damage they’ve done.
And worse, our models are based on their code base as well. So we’re just as fucked as the UK and the US in using a poorly written pile of shit to make decisions that have cost us $50,000,000,000 thus far.
Thanks Pascal. I think I can follow your examples, with the little I know.
It will be interesting to see if, when the dust settles, anything is done about this in terms of an inquiry and measures are taken to ensure advice given in the future is “peer reviewed” in some way. I will not hold my breath because Ferguson has gotten away with it for 25+ years, even after his Foot and Mouth debacle 20 odd years ago.
I doubt there will be consequences. If a professional working for a private company made this level of mistake, they’d be out on their ear and there will be consequences.
We have decades of false predictions from academia and politicians who have never faced real consequences for the costs they have imposed on us as a society.
This will be no different.
How would it identify the poor man above who killed himself.
THAT WAS A COVID DEATH. No spin or obfuscation from Cindy or her minder can alter this fact.
You can just hear the excuses. “it was for the greater good” ” Collateral damage is to be expected”
“Cindy is not to blame” Blah blah blah.
And how many others have there been will there be that we will not get to hear about?
I didn’t realise it until I caught up with them tonight, but some of my close friends knew him. It rattled me a bit when it stepped into my monkeysphere like that.
The purveyor of dodgy modeling ignored the lockdown to have a shag with his married lover, who is a hard left Xtinction Rebellion supporter who wants a marxists utopia. Could be coincidental of course…
Alert Level 2.x will begin from Thursday. I have a sneaking suspicion that we will not get to Level 1.x for a very long time. One of the reasons for the government to continue Level 2.x is that it provides justification for an authoritaran rule unknown in this country in generations.
I understand that the police have been given wartime powers.
The next step will be systems for the remote identification and tracking of all citizens. Visible licence plates for cars, ear tags for cattle, and permanent scanable chips for citizens. If you know who it is and where they are, it is easier to control the population. For what purpose? For “your own safety”, of course. Who would not begrudge a little freedom in return for more safety and security?
……”permanent scanable chips for citizens”……
While acknowledging that this is the end game I wonder how they are going to sell it. I reckon that the CoL have about 3 out of 5 million of us hooked on “mummy knows best” & endless kindness.
Shutting up & shutting down the rest of us may be harder than they think.
How to sell it. That’s the key.
There are two basic approaches to getting people to move in the direction that you want them to. You can either “stampede” them or “attract” them (or do both). So what’s the difference?
The first approach requires an external existential threat to drive the population in the direction you seek. Covid-19 is an example of this. The State will couch all of its authoritarian steps as being “for your own safety” and to “save lives,” etc.
In the second approach, the State employs “opinion leaders,” “sports idols,” “heroes” and other key figures whom the people love and respect and will want to emulate. I can just see it now. Imagine an advertisement where the captain of the All Blacks explains why he has his implanted ID chip and why you should do the same.
Aren’t they already following both those approaches with their Covid-19 response plan?
Probably.
The goal is to convince the people that they are acting “of their own free will.”
And they will retain an “enforcement option” that an individual, other than a recidivist criminal, will not be able to afford to resist. If you have a business, family to support, the expected personal responsibility approach to life, you will need to be around and fiscally able to protect those things. Fighting the State, and the resources taken from us to maintain it, is an expensive and probably unsustainable option for many of us.
Bill Gates has a patent for the chips – we are now identifying the real enemies and revenge & retribution will follow one day, soon I hope.
Damn Straight, but then again the cops have always had the power to enter someones house with out a warrant, they just had to say they guessed you had a firearm or weed and kick your door in.
You all have been living in a carefully concealed police state for many years but seeing it didnt effect you all, you didnt speak up.
Heres another fun fact, since the lockdown came into effect, the P use in this country has fallen away, thats because all or most of the massive amount of P required to supply a whole country came from Communist China and is, was, state sponsored, probably state smuggled in the C.I.A style.
I have no proof and its only a theory, but it would not be the first time would it, Iran, Contra, Golden Triangle Vietnam war, Columbia, Afghanistan the Opium wars in China.
Wake up and Smell the Bullshit, Vote them all out, ones as bad as the others
WWG1WGA
Well, well, well. Posted yesterday about the school holding an assembly on Monday.
Evidently the phones have been ringing because this morning this turns up:
”
Since my last newsletter there has been considerable comment on the school’s plan to hold a school assembly on Monday 18th May. I want to reassure you that school assemblies are considered safe and are included in the MOE Guidelines for schools returning under level 2. Schools are not included in the public gathering guidelines for the general public. Schools are safe places for children.
However, as this plan engendered anxiety in our community we will be holding an online assembly on Monday. It is important that our students get a clear and consistent message about the behavioural, health and hygiene expectations at level 2 – the purpose of our assembly. At the end of our second week back we will review how school assemblies will continue.
Please reassure your children with positive messages around their return to school – schools really are safe places. Even if you are feeling anxious about this please don’t pass these anxieties on to your children. You can greatly help your child’s successful return to school by being positive and upbeat about their return.
”
Here’s the thing – I’d have positive messages about the school if they weren’t behaving like a bunch of morons.
Not one of the school’s management group clocked the flaw in a plan to hold an assembly?
Do I trust them not to hold an assembly on Day 2, call it a gathering and deny they did it? They have form for that.
So children are immune to catching virus’ or this particular virus because ” MOE Guidelines” say so. Your teachers are fully indoctrinated in the beliefs of the Labour pardy. 👎
That leads me to wonder why schools were closed in the first place.
The story about the young butcher who appears to have taken his own life seems to have been ‘buried’.
I strongly suspect Fairfax and Herald received some angry phone calls from Wellington this morning.
I will repeat (roughly) what a Senior Police Officer told me a couple of weeks ago-
‘Mate I have been to more suicides and suicide attempts during this lockdown than I would normally attend in a year’
Jacinda Ardern should resign in absolute disgrace. She has blood on her hands…
Can you convince your mate to leak any official reports on this? Or to give you something we can use for an OIA type request?
I’m not going to compromise his position in any way. He has a family to feed as well.
It was purely his word of mouth- But a man I fully trust who has no reason whatsoever to lie…
I’m not calling you a liar, nor him. It’s not something you can give to the opposition though to beat Jacinda Ardern with unless there is something written down that can be handed to the media. If there is a way to get something like that where it does not compromise him (leaks are generally anonymous) that could be another thing to help us win this war.
Surely the stats would be available to the opposition so unless the reason for death are being recorded falsely there should be a record somewhere of numbers who have recently taken their own lives?
As far as I’m aware the government is blocking the release of any negative stats until after August / September timeframe.
W_Girl Googled it and since the clowns were appointed the suicide numbers have increased.
Here’s a petition link that Hamish Walker MP, has organised to enable people to attend funerals normally.
Please consider signing and sharing.
http://www.national.org.nz/restrictions_on_gatherings?recruiter_id=857870
Let stick it up the commie chic.
The communist regime occupying parliament have dispensed with even the pretence of proper constitutional and legal conduct.
A petition from dissident proletariat will be similarly ignored.
If they carry on in this vein, they will discover forms of dissent they cannot ignore.
ardern & her cohort of evil should check out the fate of – Nicolae and Elena Ceaușescu – the last words this pair heard were – FIRE and it was not the hot variety.
While I agree with your sentiment Kea, when you the likes of Mei Chen not being happy with this new Bill that is being rushed through Parliament, they have some big problems ahead of them ( I hope !!).
Lying Ardern is obviously surround by yes people..or she is thick as pig shit. Id imagine both.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/121463969/are-these-the-first-signs-of-third-term-arrogance-from-a-first-term-government
Only a minority of voters are negatively affected by the government’s lockdown of the economy. These people are the business owners, the self-employed, the tradesmen, the service industry workers, and others who work and earn money in a competitive market.
The majority, who do not work in the real, competitive world, are blinded by the “amazeballs”.
– Pensioners
– Government workers
– Unionized workers of supermarkets and other oligopolies
– Students
– Beneficiaries of various categories
And yet, you can bet that the young butcher who killed himself will have affected hundreds of people in his community and beyond. Maybe they will start to think for themselves.
To a point O-sen but only around 40% of the population are net tax payers. That in itself is already an unsustainably low level in a social democracy (I’m being generous in that description…). What happens if this drops to 30% or below which is entirely possible.
I’m happy to report my old parents coming up 90 years old both detest Cindy and her clown car COL. Dad is appalled at the amount of money being wasted. I told him to ‘hang onto his hat’ for tomorrow then!
Please delete pensioners, as one who could have retired 10 years ago and still works full time I object to being included. Apology accepted – Oda.
When the shift to gulag 2 was announced on monday we thought work would pick up but instead things have gone deathly quiet. The phone has rung bugger all but we are getting some work in on the email. I imagine most people are doing the same as us by buying only what they absolutely need. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next few weeks, we are already getting emails from companies in our field offering ridiculous prices that we can’t compete with. Our incompetent leader and her fellow travelers may have inadvertently started a race to the bottom for those of us left.
Many businesses will be ticking over but not making a decent income, except apparently couriers. There were so many buying online over the past weeks of lockdown that new courier systems have been set up to cope. Business’s expecting overnight deliveries are now waiting up to 5 days for stock. I wonder how many unnecessary online purchases will be regretted when the crap hits the economic fan in a few weeks?
App dubbed the Uber of parcels hoping to ease courier delivery woes
The huge demand for courier deliveries has meant businesses are struggling to stock their shelves, but it’s hoped a courier app dubbed the Uber of parcels will be able to help ease the backlog.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/app-dubbed-uber-parcels-hoping-ease-courier-delivery-woes?auto=6155980628001
Hot tip. Freightways on NZX. They own NZ Couriers, Post Haste, Castle, DX etc etc.
When there is a recession companies like FRE do really well. Businesses are struggling so they tend not to hold a lot of stock , ordering overnight/ weekly rather than in bulk on the 1st of the month. Courier/transport companies benefit because of the increase in freight volumes. Good solid company, been around for years. Annual dividend of 4.2%. Good buying currently @$6.75. DYOR.
I tried the internet thing, click and collect and was disgusted with it, so my money stayed in my pocket and will be let out when shops open again.
You had me check shares again; my mining shares are up 129%. What a fucking lovely surprise on a shitty Wednesday afternoon!
It looks like some don’t think the Coalition is doing the right thing.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=12331587
Why would Humin rights be concern about this bill.
“WTF, Matamata was a dude coming back from Ireland on March 15 when she hadn’t secured the border. Bluff was on March 21, an airline steward not being checked at the border. Tell the truth. You caused it FFS.”
Auckland bar owner rages at Jacinda Ardern over alert level 2 rules, makes bizarre ‘gay dungeon’ claim
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/05/coronavirus-auckland-bar-owner-rages-at-jacinda-ardern-over-alert-level-2-rules-makes-bizarre-gay-dungeon-claim.html
A seething Auckland bar owner has directed a series of bizarre and vicious messages at the Prime Minister after she revealed bars would only be allowed to open a week after alert level 2 comes into effect.
But that explanation hasn’t gone down well with bar owners – and especially not Leo Molloy, the highly controversial owner of Headquarters Bar in the Viaduct, who says her explanation was made up of “lies and half-truths”.
While local media reports the man who infected 14 people with COVID-19 in Seoul had visited bars in the city’s gay district, there’s no evidence they were of the ‘dungeon’ variety.
Another post on his personal Facebook page claims the Government – not the hospitality sector – caused the emergence of coronavirus clusters in New Zealand.
“So two rows of teeth says gathering in pubs and bars causes clusters,” he wrote on May 8.
“WTF, Matamata was a dude coming back from Ireland on March 15 when she hadn’t secured the border. Bluff was on March 21, an airline steward not being checked at the border. Tell the truth. You caused it FFS.”
Ha Ha Good old Leo!
Upsetting people since forever…
All power to his voice.
The truth about the origins of the rest of NZs clusters would make the fairy dust evaporate pretty quickly.
Hawkes Bay’s cluster was caused by abysmal border control involving Ruby Princess.
How do that bitch and her incompetent colleagues sleep at night?
Haha “Two rows of teeth” – love it
Suggestion to the Ed, Can we have a daily “Fuck You, Jacinda” post?
Cheers, I feel much better already…..
Leo Molloy could post on it! 😂
Today’s HYS is turning into a FUCK YOU CINDY’ page. I guess things will just go from bad to worse as time progresses. When we see the massive upheavals coming the way of those employees once the wage subsidy is ended.
Well i lasted about 5 mts listening to the 1pm Party Political broadcast.
What a load of shit.
It’s all about me me me.
The stupid bitch should get a teaching degree and lecture pre school kids.
The leaked emails from last Friday confirms what I have known for some time. She does not have an original idea and relies on her numerous minders to cover for her.
Pathetic creature…
Jesus you actually watch to her Propaganda speeches? I could only stomach one in the first week.
I don’t think I’ve seen a more megalomaniac person in my lifetime- It is quite terrifying how out of control her ego and arrogance are…
She has torched our Economy and people are committing suicide- Yet she still seems to be enjoying this immensely.
That speak volumes of her character.
Remember- We are merely pieces of shit on her shoe as she quickens stride toward her ‘dream job’ at the United Nations.
I don’t and won’t watch her shit. the TV was on the other day and her gob appeared and was quickly turned off with much “fuck her the fucking bitch” being uttered. We have a swear jar at home and its overflowing just from dealing with that useless piece of shit.
Gave up watching her a long time ago!
Saw some of the 3 to 2 spew, pure comedy with the mouth and chompers, along with hands and arms doing semaphore. Some one should put it to music!
Sooty would you prefer You cant hide your Lyin eyes or Tell me lies lies big fucking lies?
What the Dems want to impose on Americans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sozz2965JVw
Tucker: Inside the Democrats’ $3 trillion coronavirus relief bill
When the smoke clears, only China will be able to bail us out from our mountain of debt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oarcTaOE_Vs
Hannity: Nancy Pelosi has no shame
Instead of seriously working to make our country a better place and help Americans recover from the coronavirus pandemic, Speaker Pelosi is playing politics and exploiting a crisis. #FoxNews #Hannity
Bahaha so it looks like Classic Motorcycle Shop Tauranga is not much of a fan of our glorious leader either. 😂😂😂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjwFCdez7Uc&feature=youtu.be
That’s fucking awesome. “With the tsk-tsk-tsk horse mouth”
Nice Norton.
Looks like a TTS Performance supercharger on that Thruxton as well. They haven’t released the kit for the 2020 Rocket III yet, but they’re predicting somewhere north of 300hp, which is just so damn tasty.
posted that on my facebook page.
Man’s a legend! It’s going to upset a lot of lefties!
The lefties are going after him by posting negative reviews for his business on his Google page. Check them out on Facebook, he’s responding to each and every one with a bit of piss and vinegar.
Example here: https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorcycleShop/photos/pcb.239479970720553/239479887387228/?type=3&theater
Alfred Nagaro
https://vimeo.com/417535896?ref=fb-share&fbclid=IwAR0tq1bVfy5Y9YPxc1qrN9YL6jIJ2zd36MeB2888KlLV-0n650U5eZJJ5J0
Calls his Maori Mates at 7.25. Are you rolling over and having your tummy’s tickled.
Very good speechto listen to. Git Trev all uptight.
Farrars looking for money over at moderated.co.nz.
“Potential ways I could seek revenue are:
Have additional content on a subscription site such as Patreon with a low monthly sub
Have the content on Kiwiblog behind a paywall
Have a micropayments system on Kiwiblog where people could opt to pay say 1c/post they read
Just have a donate facility with no actual paywall or subscriptions”
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/05/content_survey.html
I fail to understand the need for money to run a blog. Once it is set up, the only cost is the annual hosting fee, the security certificate (https). If I can run this site on my super payments then anyone can afford it. And I have 4 sites to run.
How much time do you spend on running YSB? (say, per week)
^ this. It would be a means to recoup the opportunity cost.
Time taken to find suitable posts, posting and editing suitable photos, replying to emails, 8 hours per week.
I usually do it when I am watching TV in the evenings.
Not having to moderate youse fullas is a bonus. The other blog obviously has trust issues with their commenters.
That’s the problem..
I can see that Farrar does spend 2-3 hours/day backgrounding and writing stuff for the blog…and at his stage of life with young kids he needs a decent/steady income.
But his problem has been that he hasn’t moderated his blog wisely.
No-one is going to pay money to have slimey creeps abuse or defame them.
So he runs the risk that few folks will pay or that he ends up with a highly moderated blog.
I still think he has some influence on the NZ political scene, so I’ll comment over there when he puts up a NZ post..on a current matter .but
I have very little interest in his USA opinion pieces or his comparative analyses.
……”Not having to moderate youse fullas is a bonus.”……
You have instilled fear amongst your followers Ed. We have watched in awe as the impetuous Kea has toned down his diatribes against his Semitic brothers & only pops in from time to time to mention the unhinged doings of the Mad Queen.
Rumour has it that he spends his days aloft over the valleys of the Southern Alps dropping pieces of paper inscribed with messages of hope from the Torrah to lost Israelii tourists.
Not since the episode of American Dad when Klaus who was once an East German Olympic ski-jumper had his brainwaves switched with that of a goldfish by the CIA have I noticed such a transformation.
Kea has been substituted. We need a writ of Habeus Corpus. Produce the parrot! 🙂
FFS nasska, don’t get him riled up. He’s been an exemplary example of the way a good Kea behaves.
I was over there yesterday and wondering about the high number of upticks and down ticks there were. On the surface it looks like he must have very high traffic but then I remembered that the last time I posted –about 18 mths or so ago I noticed that when I ticked a comment it seemed to go up by 3 or 4. At the time I thought it was a coding glitch, which would be fixed. Maybe it has not been fixed.
Alternatively he may have had huge increase in traffic and he has decided to milk it. If that is the case, he obviously does not realise who is contributing to the success of the blog –it is mainly those commenting because most of his threads are just pieces from the MSM about 4+ days old and he adds a few lines of bland comment to it
Yep,
Quite a few folks are commenting that they are more interested in other folks’ comments… not his 4-day old news.
Does it seem that Farrar is getting the cold shoulder from Nats?
I thought Nats were full of rich folks who would have the $$$$$ to prop up his blog.
You gotta think that things are bit desperate if he needs to tap into my play money.
DPF is of the Liberal rump of National & a backer of Key. National has been taken to its hard conservative extreme by the current Godbotherers who make up 66% of its MPs.
He will have been shelved until the pendulum swings back.
Multiple upticks happen here when you have not refreshed a page. When you uptick and it goes up by three, two other new upticks from other viewers are added or maybe my upticks are really worth more?
I thought that was others who had upticked the comment while I’ve been absent and it is just catching up with the numbers? It happens very occasionally so I’m sticking with that as the legitimate reason! 😎
Yes, the comments make any blog. Intelligent comments anyway with variety and sound arguments. One of the reasons theBFD/ whaleoil has been spiraling downwards for quite a while.
I thought you might appreciate some of the comments from the UK in response to the Mad Butcher story and media coverup thereof I posted there earlier. Bear in mind that with about 8,000 comments per day no story stays at the top of the thread for very long but more people commented on and upticked my post than for a long time:
It appears mental health services are not as they should be. I know from personal experience. Am funding a young male family member in Bay of Plenty. Psychologists/therapists overwhelmed. Can only get him fortnightly sessions even though he needs weekly sessions, Very little free help.
So the dulcet toned, stone ugly slag hasn’t even got a caring side, colour me amazed.Unless of course its for the Muzz.
How awful. The poor man, and his poor wife who has to struggle on.
When I studied there were always 2 approaches , quantitative and qualitative. Why is “our” government not looking at the qualitative side of things ie case studies and individual reports of individual suffering ? Enough is enough, this lockdown thing is bollocks , will do what I want tomorrow and f@ck Plod , no trust anymore .
She’s a B’liar protege, his name is written through her like Blackpool rock.
Hardly surprising. The psychological cost of ruined businesses and isolation can be devastating for many.
She’s the epitome of the globalist. Came from nowhere, installed as a “popular leader” and starts fucking the place over.
For “kind and caring” read cold and cruel .
Alice: Which, given the ‘flying visit’ made to Beijing, makes one wonder exactly what the role of the CCP has been in all this…
The COL have backed down somewhat after the backlash by kiwis today. Now 50 people allowed at funerals and tangi. But only if you pass muster.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/05/coronavirus-government-increases-number-allowed-at-funerals-tangihanga-to-50-people.html
From Thursday, funeral directors can apply for an exemption to allow up to 50 people at services, as long as the Ministry of Health is satisfied public health and safety measures can be met. This includes physical distancing, hand hygiene, and no food and drink congregations after. If these measures can’t be met, only 10 people can attend.
Dr David Clark says this change means more families are able to grieve together.
A wag elsewhere has pointed out that if you can have 100 in a restaurant then that’s where you should have a funeral.
Ten tables of ten with dinner and drinks?
The big news on NHK is that a 28-year-old sumo wrestler has died of pneumonia brought on by Covid-19. While he was physically very strong, he had a BMI figure through the roof. I guess obesity and the coronavirus are a deadly combination. No wonder so many have died in the US.
Oh dear, David Clark makes an unfortunate slip of the tongue. 😂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfhmR_uQl8U&feature=emb_title
This guy is just the gift that keeps on giving isn’t he?
He’d have them rolling in the aisles during his Sunday homilies. 🙂
Put a post on JAs live political broadcast page, and it appears I am now blocked.
Pity they don’t hand out a badge “Jacinda blocked me” to be worn with pride.
Agitator.
I did something similar on FB. Banned for 7 days.
No sense of humour.
What did you post? I thought I was pretty fucking scathing most days on FB with her followers and they’ve not even said boo to me.
A nude photo with Arderns head photoshopped onto it.
How long do you think before Comrade Cindy jets off for a holiday in the sun?
Will she go before the election?
Oh, I hope not.
These past 8 weeks have been the longest she’s been on deck… and isn’t she doing a great job saving us from Plague & Pestilence?
Yes, she obviously needs a lovely relaxing Island holiday in the sun after all her wonderful assistance with our lives and working so long and hard to save us all from ourselves. Off with you Cindy, enjoy your well earned holiday! Please, please go, the people who have lost their jobs, lost their businesses and are wondering how to save their homes will be so impressed with you. Enjoy your holiday dear leader! //
Isn’t Dad back from whatever tropical island paradise he had a cushy number at, to help change nappies? It was one reason border controls couldn’t come in sooner, along with the Christchurch celebrations
NZ’s equivalent of Broomstick One will be on 24hr standby.
To provide transport to a tropical island OR asylum in Venezuela. 🙂
Just dont send the c*** over here.
Maggie@1753
In her mind, sadly, the answer is probably in the affirmative, since she is after all SAINT Jacinda, nay, QUEEN Jacinda, even BELOVED GREAT LEADER Jacinda, the dispenser of largesse, hugs and feelz to her adoring fans, but only so long as you acknowledge her importance in all this and how without her magnanimous beneficence, the Good Ship New Zealand would be founding on the Wuflu rocks . The second you don’t acknowledge said beneficence and largesse, the real Jacinda appears, and it’s not a pretty sight. .
As someone who appears to have Narcissistic Personality Disorder, she must be VERY hard to live with…
“It wasn’t chaotic, it was a rapidly evolving situation.”
Bahahaha
CEO Waitemata DHB get wanker of the week award
🎵Why do birds suddenly appear Every time you are near?
Just like me, they long to be Close to you
Why do stars fall down from the sky Every time you walk by?
Just like me, they long to be Close to you.🎶
I said “fuck off Karen, 2 metres.”
I am new to this blog. However I have been reading here for a while. I am really pleased to see people expressing themselves without fear of accusations of “hate speech” or being pilloried for being politically incorrect. It is quite humbling to see the intelligence and experience reflected here. I really don’t like any political party and have a healthy mistrust of politicians in general. I see National and Labour as different ends of the same political turd with the other minor shitbags making up the rest. I have a lot more to comment on and about so, I will be quite busy here.
You will fit in well. Tell your leftie mates to come along and debate the issues with intelygent, non-partysan folk who love taking the piss out of our dear leader. And tell them to continue being kind
You’re just looking for some fresh combatants Ed! With Kea having going AWOL it’s been a bit quiet around here. Every blog needs it’s nutter.
Welcome Artimus P. Looking forward to reading a new point of view. 😉
You will fit in well.
Anyone else googled his name yet?
As long as you’re not a lapsed Catholic Priest, nasska will probably cope.
Not sure I will… unless you’re Kea incognito.
Welcome, mate. Beware the parrot, it bites. The rest of them are okay. Although one fellow has some sordid stories about Thailand and I think there’s a closet revolutionary hiding around here too. And that’s before we hit DuckDuck and related 🙂
Fuck, I suspect it may just be a nuthouse. Welcome anyway.
……”I suspect it may just be a nuthouse”……
That’s the attraction. BYO restraints. 🙂
Welcome . Lefty freinds can be ignored from here. 😆
Government’s Covid-19 funeral rule backtrack ‘incoherent, inconsistent’ – Simon Bridges
National leader Simon Bridges says the Government’s backtrack on funeral and tangi limits “smacks of incoherent, inconsistent policy on the hoof”.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/govts-covid-19-funeral-rule-backtrack-incoherent-inconsistent-simon-bridges?auto=6156245145001
“That said, the new rule smacks of incoherent, inconsistent policy on the hoof.
“It’s incoherent because we’ve gone from 100, to 10, to 5
“It’s also highly inconsistent. Funeral and tangihanga can now occur with 50 people and an application, yet you can go to a movie theatre with 99 other people present, and any time you want, and there’ll be no questions asked.
Mr Bridges also took aim at the system of requiring Ministry of Health approval for services of up to 50 people.
“And what’s more, the rules of 50, with an application while progress, is still unkind. Those with loved ones who’ve passed have been treated poorly by the constant chopping and changing and by paperwork.
“That is the last thing a grieving family wants.
You can imagine the following…
Beloved person dies Thursday…
On Friday you apply to Min of Health for a size 50 funeral on Tues/Wed….
Friday afternoon is drinkies time/ early leaving at Min of Health….
Monday… Min of Health staffer has a LONG weekend…
Tuesday you get email denying your application….
At least you can say you have applied. That your reply is in the mail and we all know how slow that is.
It is a citizen’s duty to resist the unwarranted intrusion of government into their life.
I’d say go ahead with your funeral as normal. These things are not normally ‘by invitation’ events, so how are you to know if 47 people are going to turn up, or 53?
By the time the Stasi turn up you’ll probably be done, dusted and back to your groups of ten.
Cheers Ed. Problem is I don’t have any lefty mates.
Everyone has leftie mates. It’s just that we don’t know who the are.
Aren’t they the vegans?
For Nasska’s Religion Today segment: Concerns over church in Australia selling bleach which its US leader claims can cure coronavirus
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The Australian chapter of an international church that peddles bleach as a cure for coronavirus is selling the product locally. It sells the industrial bleach as Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS), stating it can cure COVID-19 as well as autism, acne, cancer, diabetes and more. MMS is not approved for human consumption in Australia or the United States. Australia’s Therapeutic Goods Administration warned that MMS poses a serious health risk if consumed and should be labelled with the word “poison”.
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This sort of nonsense gives churches a bad name. I interpret “sells” as meaning the church has expanded into profit-making activities.
Just wait for the anti Trump brigade to be out in force and blame him for the stupidity these religious nutters inflict upon themselves.
……” MMS poses a serious health risk if consumed”……
Don’t be pussies like Jim Jones’ lot.
Shoot it into a vein! 🙂
Nasska:
It seems that this church has gone full-bottle:
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7.30 ordered some products from MMS Australia and took them to a pool shop for testing.
Following a protocol available through links on the Australian website, three drops of sodium chlorite were mixed with three drops of hydrochloric acid “activator” and then added to water. Pool service manager Jarrod Cullen tested the dose for free chlorine levels. He used a DPD 1 reagent tablet which turns water different shades of pink depending on the level of chlorine present. The MMS liquid turned hot pink. As a comparison, Mr Cullen said tap water would usually remain fairly clear when tested.
“This is quite strong,” Mr Cullen said. “That’s a level that would keep a pool free from algae, and I would not drink that.”
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if I ever get an itchy nose, or constipation, then I know who to contact for a miracle cure!
Be cheaper to buy a season’s pass down at the local aquatic centre Nostra. 🙂
Are you trying to trigger Mike Hunty?
You know how he hates that prick Cullen with a vengeance.
I see that cunt is still alive and voicing his support fot “Grant”.
Shame he didnt die and be restricted to 10 people at the funeral. No doubt the Mad Queen would have given an exemption, and the Blueshirts would do anything either. They have their orders
Thanks for the welcome WG and to answer Maggies query look up Lynyrd Skynyrd….
The Godwhacked are taking over the world. Kiwiblog is now no more than a pulpit for the deranged & the deluded. Kokila will soon post the Lord’s Prayer, a hymn sheet & a collection plate with each General Debate.
This is our only sanctuary!
Mind you, Nasska, Kiwiblog general debate without the Stephieboy pervert and Hugh is almost readable!
To describe it as readable is a slight overstatement. The comments are so far out of synch as to make an individual thread seem schizophrenic.
It’s like Deliverance without the music.
Now play nicely Nasska. I said “almost readable” old chap!
I don’t follow Kiwiblog as closely these days as I used to, but is Martin Williams, who judging by his previous comments appears to be a Labour Party rape apologist, still a regular contributor there?
I seem to recall his name coming up from time to time. I also recall the torrent of abuse from the knuckle dragging Christian fundamentalists & conservatives that follows.
KB commentary has gone from being quick & intelligent to staid & predictable in the past year. Even Baity would give them a miss.
Now we just need to teach you not to use blockquotes, because Ed decided it should look like Labour Party Propaganda when you quote somebody properly. And that the Reply box hangs around; so it’s a good idea to reply and make sure you’re hanging off the right comment. But that doesn’t work quite so well on mobile.
Check out the polling component as well, it has links to Facebook so you can share and make people of all political stripes quiver in indignation.
Knock, knock. Who’s there? Da Poolice!!
“Health Minister Dr David Clark, who will be able to make judgements based on more than just health.”
Wow, that’s scary!
COVID-19 Public Health Response Bill passes in Parliament
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/05/covid-19-public-health-response-bill-passes-in-parliament.html
Lawmakers have voted to pass the COVID-19 Public Health Response Bill which sets the legal framework for alert level 2.
“The COVID-19 Public Health Response Act will ensure controls on gatherings of people and physical distancing are still enforceable while narrowing the Police powers from those that applied under level 3 and level 4,” he says.
Whereas the Health Act gives power to the Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield, the new legislation transfers some power to Health Minister Dr David Clark, who will be able to make judgements based on more than just health.
waikatogirl, this more than anything scares me. The reach of this state is astonishing and they are grabbing more and more power for themselves.
Why do they need to pass a law for 2 weeks? That’s how long Level 2 is supposed to be…
As I mentioned earlier, I think that Level 2 is going to be with us for a very long time. I guess that the Prime Minister is clutching it closely to her chest, and will only drop it to Level 1 or below just before the general election so that the luvvies will think “she’s amazeballs!” and vote Labour.
Level 2 will last for a couple of months. It’s her insurance just in case there is a Covid-19 flare-up. If there is one, it will be relatively easier to go from Level 2 to Level 3, than from Level 1 to Level 3. Also, we are heading into the flu season, so Level 2 will last as long as that, I think.
I think you are right.
I’ve been trying to figure out how she can spin out her pixie dust until September.
Come in spinner!
That’s scary, will he start pushing the god wacked ideas?
Waikatogirl:
“the new legislation transfers some power to Health Minister Dr David Clark, who will be able to make judgements based on more than just health”.
This is, of course, the same “Dr” David Clark who said “I’ve been an idiot“. Why, oh why, is a self-confessed “idiot” in charge of important decisions?
Edit: I’ve just noticed this titbit on his Wikipedia page: “Ordained in 1997, Clark is a Presbyterian minister. He worked as the Assistant Minister at St Lukes Presbyterian Church in Auckland.” I wonder if he’s met Stephieboy?
different church.
I realise it’s St Albans (Anglican) and St Lukes (Presbyterian), but Stephieboy goes to St Lukes shopping centre, so it’s possible that he’s popped into St Lukes church for a bit of a perve from time to time too!
Am I missing something by being a heathen?
What the hell is in a church worth perving over
Let me put it to you this way…
“The Yoga Pantry is located in the heart of Dominion road in Mount Eden Auckland, and is nestled happily in the basement of the St Albans Church.”
Think of Stephieboy perving at young girls wearing tight-fitting leotards *Shudder*
Thanks for the welcome Pascal, I really look forward to reading all the posts on here and hopefully being able to contribute to them.
Just jump in the deep end. We don’t bite. Well the parrot might have a nip but just smack him on his beak. 😂
Work has started on the southern-most part of the City Rail Link project at Mt Eden earlier this year, marked by Auckland Mayor Phil Goff, CRL CEO Sean Sweeney and Transport Minister Phil Twyford.
The Government’s flagship infrastructure project has been put “on hold” while it fights the Covid-19 pandemic, but there are some doubts it will ever get going again.
Transport Minister Phil Twyford said decisions on Auckland’s light rail project “are on hold while the Government’s full focus is on fighting Covid-19”.
During the election campaign, Labour had promised to have the first stage of the Auckland light rail scheme built by 2021.
But after a long and protracted process, the Government has yet to decide who will build the scheme, let alone begin construction.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300011411/government-puts-light-rail-on-hold?fbclid=IwAR3ZtGIgIVLrzVJJTxWPiAv_5K6RJpogeoP3KQOVVRfAgjUGLL4OWDuJvyo
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FAIL PHIL STRIKES AGAIN.
What a bunch of losers the Labour Party really are.
I guess we can also call this a covid death?!!!!!
Kiwibuild…FAIL
Light rail…FAIL
Tree planting…FAIL
Closing Borders…FAIL
Democracy…FAIL
Jacinda Ardern and the COL…FAILURES. 0/5. DCM.
“Be kind” (stamps foot)! //
😂😂😂
share this on FB.
Today, Chief Human Rights commissioner Paul Hunt said he was also “deeply concerned” about the lack of scrutiny and rushed process for the Covid-19 Public Health Response Bill.
The proposed law would allow police or an enforcement officer to “enter, without a warrant, any land, building, craft, vehicle, place, or thing if they have reasonable grounds to believe that a person is failing to comply” with orders made by the Minister of Health or director-general of health.
Hunt called the Bill a “great failure of our democratic process”.
“The new legislation, if passed in its current state, will result in sweeping police powers unseen in this country for many years,” he said.
“Given our concerns expressed to the Attorney-General yesterday about the two-year sunset clause in the Bill, we are pleased to see that Parliament will be changing this to 90 days. However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about whether the powers are proportionate.”
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331667&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&fbclid=IwAR0uz6UZ1gjOJhpJIoclAoPCLKJFsCXbZp4KfofIw5TuiXbU-3JgkJKSpA0
I think we should be concerned don’t you?
I’m wondering how many “things” we have lurking around our place into which an enforcement officer might enter…
Hopefully the highly-paid boffins at Auckland Tourism, Events and Economic Development (ATEED) don’t get “think big” ideas like this one: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-13/coronavirus-queensland-government-stake-virgin-airlines/12244152.
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The state-owned Queensland Investment Corporation (QIC) is set to make an official bid for a stake in Virgin Australia after the airline went into voluntary administration last month. Queensland Treasurer Cameron Dick [I hope he’s not a short-seller *Giggle*] released a statement confirming the move to save the airline and retain its headquarters in Brisbane.
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So not much on here about tomorrow. ZEL down 4.5% today, on nearly 6x trading, maybe a fuel tax coming?
I’m hoping for UBI, very doubtful as they don’t have enough clues so they probably can’t understand how to administer it.
Hoping too, for GST increase, to 20% is the word.
Also income tax hikes, painful ones, here’s hoping.
They can’t do the capital tax, so maybe a death tax instead, I can only hope.
Why would I hope for such things?
We need things to escalate, so we can force change. The faster we can bring about the awakening, the better.
You think you are going to vote them out in September. Highly, highly doubtful.
The sheeple have thought that as a cure all for hundreds of years.
This is where it has got us. That thinking.
Voting ACT is the obvious choice. But that is a vote to supplement National. As people on here have said, National have never repealed a labour policy, ever. I wouldn’t know, that’s what I’ve read on here.
I want them to cause as much pain as possible, to wake the sheeple up. Nothing else will do it. At present, we don’t have anyone to look to, to bring about real change.
You think you’re going to change the world in a ballot box, it ain’t going to happen. They’re all cut from the same cloth.
I hope for pain on the people tomorrow, lots and lots of pain. All of us. Hopefully they really are stupid enough to go for UBI, being world leaders and all. UBI will sink us in no time flat.
Your vote means fuck all. It just makes you feel involved.
When will we, as a species, wake up.
The economy tanking will do so much damage to individuals, that nothing will save them. Just wait until the lay offs start.
Every one is happy that businesses are opening up again over the next two weeks. Who is going to support them? With the doom and gloom merchants out in force, most will not be spending money on discretionary things, and lets face it, a cup of coffee or going to the movies might be a good buzz during the next two weeks. But longer term I can see more and more businesses closing. What company director would want to face a charge of trading recklessly by taking on extra debt just to keep going?
Most will bite the bullet and close up once the wage subsidy runs out.
Then we will see them having to sell their homes as most will have secured their business loans against the equity in their homes. No income means no mortgage payments.
This is why Cindy and co haven’t got a clue how any small business operates. They thing all the income a business gets is for the owner to keep. They must all be rich pricks and therefore we can tax the hell out of them.
Yes Ed, you are right. The sheeple don’t realise that the real pain is yet to come. So so many of them will be too afraid to go to a cafe or restaurant anyway, this cindy knows for sure!
The final nails are still in the furnace.
I want it to happen.
I’m sick of all the bullshit political vomit, that the sheeple really believe that their vote will change anything.
This is a global plan, it’s not just about little ol NZ.
We are already enslaved to debt, what we call money. The real total enslavement is what they really want.
230 gone from 2 hotels in Rotorua this week. And then there is Rainbow springs and all that collection. Bus drivers and so on.
In Tauranga the developers are still full steam ahead. Two more retirement villages and a school ot two on the go. A couple of the building Co’s have a lot of houses to build. already sold.
It won’t hit here until next year. We inevitably follow Auckland by 12 months so next winter will be the winter if discontent. Like a lot of towns we also have big events and these are not going to be happening so jobs gone.
Tough it is going to be on many with big mortgages and no real work.
But the public servants are going to be ok. Teahers, ece and many others have all had good wage rises. Got to find a way or removing their money from their pockets.
Oh and note none seeme to have taken the 20%.
The subject has died. Tax the shit out of them.
Ed, what is your email again? I can send you a non publicised national hotel survey that would make a good post for discussion, showing the impact on our hospitality sector?
This would give everyone a good look at what Vikings post relates to at a national level.
admin@ysb.co.nz
Cheers Ed, will leave the report with you tomorrow.
We can fix much of this. Mining and oil exploration. We are literally sitting on a gold mine and a sea of oil/gas. Yes yes, gweens, gweta, murri et al. A big Fuck You. They van eat shit. Gloves off.
Stop fucking around and get the drills out. Drill baby drill. Jobs..money..lets do it September 21st!
And all that prime coal down on the West Coast.
We could export to the North Island!
Follow FB and the comments and you will get a feel for what people think. Not since Muldoon can I remember such an ill will against the Govt. Plenty don’t like today’s legislation,.even the local body I suspect.
They have even upset the Hori porks and I doubt the changes will remove the resentment.
As others have said it comes down to trust and this Govt. don’t trust anyone.
Not a nice feeling to have that one is not trusted, especially for some of us old buggers.
Yes and funny how they’ve backtracked on the funeral numbers amid public backlash, some fucking trustworthy government! Shysters.
ZEL have just done a capital raise hence the drop in sp to 3.04. They listed at $3.50 some years back. 52 week high was $6.85. They have had a shit year jet fuel sales have plummeted and with the lockdown fuel and shop sales have dropped as well. No more dividends until post Sept 2021. I wouldnt recommend.
Thanks Mike I didn’t know that. I was just trying to read between the lines there!
Pardon me but who is ZEL?
Z energy ltd. big drop today, adding to the massive march one, I thought it may have been insider trading, but didn’t know what mike does.
Used to be Shell but they sold all their downstream assets..became Z Energy.
“The order states only the tenants can decide on when they move out from our property whether it is within the next two months or two years or 10 years, which totally contradicts the Tenancy Act.
“I feel like we have been victimised for being a landlord, of one property.”
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/kiwi-landlord-and-his-family-told-they-must-wait-until-tenants-decide-to-move-out/
The Tribunal said it “absolutely accepts the difficult position the landlord is in”, but there was no relief it could provide.
“Covid-19 and the Government’s response to it has caused almost unprecedented
disruption to the lives of many people,” the decision read.
“As difficult as the landlord’s situation is, there is no statutory authority for the Tribunal to terminate this tenancy.
Be caring she said.
That’s the situation in Britain, next to impossible to evict a tenant. Where Britain goes we go!
Yep, that’s where it’s going.
Divide and conquer.
Glad I sold my three!
‘ang on. The tenants were given notice in February under the old legislation so it should stand.
Depends on our exchange rate and how prudent councils become. Agriculture has had a good year and the chinks are blocking the Aussies so we may be ok there. Public Service have been given a lot of money for wages and to spend so if we can tap that we can be OK.
The issue remains though selling enough over sea’s to save up and get rid of our debt. This Govt. don’t know how that is done. (well like a lot of things really).
“A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government”
Edward Abbey.
Ah yes, the last refuge of the scoundrel
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My plan for tomorrow is to consume, consume, consume…
desperately need weed killer, grass seed, some grape vines, a couple of apple trees, thick sox, new PJs, and a slap-up dinner…
Hoping everything will be open.
Geez Maggy, don’t mix the consummation up!
Floyd, I think the quote is very apt looking at today’s shitfest.
Just wait for tomorrow’s shitfest!
“Helluva thing, killing a man……….”
Did Ya,ll catch The Alice in wonderlands latest gaff on the news, this winters going to be cold LOL, must really smart having to admit that one, when your whole election campaign was based on man made global warming, carbon tax and the great methane imaginary fairy , this snowflake is such a joke.
Guess someone must have filled her in on La Nina, next it will be CO2 causes cold snaps and excess snow.
Maybe she will do a Boris and get the CCP Virus to win the sympathy vote, there is definitely a ground swell of hatred for labor that I haven’t seen since Auntie Helen’s botched up last term.
So far nothing from the Climate Change Fuhrer guess he,s tied up and gagged in the beehive gender neutral toilet block with one of Wee Nevs shitty naps shoved in his gob.
Oh and Hey President for life Ping, go fuk yerself no more Kiwi food products for you till you admit Taiwans not any part of China, un-invade Hong Kong release the Uighurs and re-implant all the organs you ripped off from the Falun Gong, then you can inject yer fat arse with Covid and play your suffering live for our amusement.
Trump will probably still nuke you but tough luck, you can always blind fold yourself with a shoe lace so you cant see it coming.
Where We Go 1 We Go All
Well said bud.
There are still a lot of Ciny Lovers out there. Some are True Believers in socialism, others are snivel servants who have had a 6 week paid holiday on full pay, so dont understand the issue. Worse, is many of my family, or at least the in laws, is included in that mix. I have to bite my tongue in the interests of family harmony.
It will be interesting to see if that opinion changes over the next 6 months. For the retirees and public servants, I doubt there will be any change until things go really wrong