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  1. “Incitement of hatred ,or discriminatory insult,on the grounds of race,religion,ethnicity,gender,sexual orientation,or disability”
    This is the guts of Macrons assault on free speech that is being rammed through the French parliment during the Coronavirus panic, Im willing to bet good money that Arderns law will be written verbatim.
    Free speech is about to become a thing of the past in our country,

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    • How do you openly debate a social problem without offending or “insulting” someone?

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    • And once again – who is at the forefront of fighting for freedom? The MAGA hat wearing DJT.

      No wonder the left were so petrified by seeing it in piss-weak Muller’s office!

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      • Sorry I posted further down below 10:13 am.
        https://ysb.co.nz/have-your-say-410/#comment-76472

        … Government agencies – including the police – will be able to “issue a takedown notice ….
        …. if the person “believes, on reasonable grounds, that the online publication is objectionable”. ……
        … fine of up to $200,000. …… …… up to 14 years in prison…..

        More details there.

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    • Not sure who asked for this legislation. I am sure I do not wish for any government control over speech or any form of expression. I am holding the view that any party supporting this nonsense from Minister Little can forget being elected. They will not get a vote from me. The legislation proposed is a further government offence against freedom in this country. It should fail in the house.

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  2. Wasn’t Golly G advocating something similar when she arrived in Parliament although with a definite pro-islamic bias on her part?

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    • Good old Golly G. Still claiming the rocket attacks on her family home ?

      If bull shit was penny a pound she would be a multi millionaire.

      Funny how James Shaw rolled over on her BS.

      Now I hear she is harbouring an overstayer.

      Hopefully her list placing will see her on the dole after the election.

      Hope her useless boyfriend can crack a few jokes to cheer her up.

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  3. Will the Nats stand up and repeal this nasty attack on our freedoms?
    Track record ani’t that good.

    Still remains Party Vote Act.

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    • No of course, they won’t – because they believe in it! They’re just annoyed that stoopid Cindy will push it before they can.

      Until the lunatic lefties are purged from National, they’re just Quisling no hopers.

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    • They need to be very clear that they oppose this bill. Mr Peters needs to remain mindful of electoral consequences as well. If it does pass, National needs to be shouting loudly about prompt repeal if they seek the Treasury benches.

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  4. Minneapolis is burning.
    Since the “urban black culture” is so loved and emulated in South Auckland, do you think that similar opportunistic riots could happen in this city if the police were filmed killing someone they had arrested and restrained?

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    • Minneapolis burning? No according to the msm.
      Just peaceful protests.

      This journalist should be wearing a mask.
      There is definitely something in the air, as glimpsed by the camera.

      No thugs here, as they are all peacefully protesting at the Minneapolis police station, as the stooge reports.

      https://twitter.com/i/status/1266222112458629120
      12 seconds

      Where are the twitter “fact checkers”
      Fake news,

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    • Trump seeks to clarify tweet on Minneapolis: ‘Looting leads to shooting’
      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-seeks-to-clarify-tweet-minneapolis-looting-leads-to-shooting

      President Trump sought to clarify what he meant in a tweet Thursday night about the unrest in Minneapolis after Twitter flagged it and claimed he was “glorifying violence.”

      “Looting leads to shooting, and that’s why a man was shot and killed in Minneapolis on Wednesday night – or look at what just happened in Louisville with 7 people shot,” Trump tweeted Friday. “I don’t want this to happen, and that’s what the expression put out last night means. It was spoken as a fact, not as a statement.”

      “It’s very simple, nobody should have any problem with this other than the haters, and those looking to cause trouble on social media. Honor the memory of George Floyd!” the president added.

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    • Minneapolis is burning because:
      – a dodgy cop who owed Amy Klobuchar (DNC) a favour for not prosecuting him in the past for the same disgraceful behaviour
      – the Mayor (DNC) pulled the cops back to let the rioters have free rein
      – the cops are saying most of the rioters they arrested are from outside of Minnesota (hint – Soros always is ready to bus in protesters whenever they’re needed)
      – there is a huge media PR push on to promote fat and black Stacy Abrams as VP (so Biden can withdraw and she can be the candidate to fight Trump because “Duh DIVERSIDDY”
      – the DNC need a race war to show how a fat black candidate would solve everything

      It’s always this obvious with the left. What is disturbing is that even though it’s obvious – most people won’t be able to put this basic (2+2) logic together!

      I fear for the species.

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  5. George Floyd death: Minneapolis police officer charged with murder
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/05/george-floyd-death-minneapolis-police-officer-charged-with-murder.html

    Derek Chauvin, the officer who is seen on a bystander’s cellphone video kneeling on George Floyd’s neck on Monday before he died, has been charged with third-degree murder, Mike Freeman, Hennepin County attorney, told a news briefing.

    “He is in custody and has been charged with murder,” Freeman said of Chauvin, who is white. “We have evidence, we have the citizen’s video, the horrible, horrific, terrible thing we’ve seen over and over again.”

    Freeman said a detailed complaint would be made available later on Friday.

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        • We are not being told the full story as usual. The deceased had “underlying medical issues” and the autopsy shows no indication of sufficient trauma to his neck to have caused his death.

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          • Alice ,he was also a well known thief and prolific burglar,not that its reason to kill him but hes not some innocent person on his way to the youth club.

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  6. Thank goodness for the List eh Louisa. Where else do you go when your electorate no longer want you, or is it your Labour party mates that have given up on you? //

    Louisa Wall quits Manurewa electorate battle, will only stand on Labour list
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/05/louisa-wall-quits-manurewa-electorate-battle-will-only-stand-on-labour-list.html

    She’s held the seat since 2011, but will only be on the party list at the upcoming election. Her withdrawal comes after threatening legal action against her party after allowing a late nomination to contest the seat – Waitematā District Health Board board member Arena Williams – whose application came in after the normal deadline.

    “I don’t want the selection process matters to become an unwelcome distraction for the party and the Government when all of our efforts need to be on rebuilding our country and the economy.”

    Instead she’ll campaign for Labour in the Maori electorates and try to get into Parliament on the party list, and spend more time on issues “close to her heart, including campaigning for equity in women’s sport, women and girls’ issues generally and indigenous and LGBTIQ+ rights”.

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    • Labour want her gone because of her how outspoken she is on “men with cocks and balls really are women if they say they are” stance. Labour don’t want to air that too much until after they’ve won the next election.

      If Louisa Wall wasn’t so dumb and hadn’t done her retarded “We don’t want no fucking TERFS” tirade 18 months back – she’d be totally safe.

      Obama showed you have to save the really psycho stuff until the end of your tenure – if you do too much BLM shit or Men in Women’s toilets too early – they know you can get kicked out.

      Louisa Wall is just being punished for being too impatient, not for her views.

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    • Probably been offered a cool job somewhere else if she dont make the list Reward for standing aside .

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    • I thought an MP was supposed to represent constituents not equity issues or issues close to her own heart?

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      • Bloody MMP.
        Anti democratic
        Supports troughers no one wants.
        Voters don’t get any say
        And the politicians get to do exactly as they like.

        We are stuffed and will remain so until this awful system is thrown out.

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        • I am not saying we are stuffed. Just not keen on MMP and want it removed. I favour electorate votes only and thus a better prospect of a representative that actually has a stake in the electorate issues and staying in place through diligence towards constituents.

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  7. Coronavirus: Donald Trump completely cuts ties with the World Health Organization after pulling funding
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/05/coronavirus-donald-trump-completely-cuts-ties-with-the-world-health-organization-after-pulling-funding.html

    “China has total control over the World Health Organization despite paying only $40 million per year compared to what the United States has been paying, which is approximately $450m a year,” Trump told reporters in Washington on Friday.

    “Because they have failed to make the requested and greatly needed reforms, we will be today terminating our relationship with the World Health Organization and redirecting those funds to other worldwide and deserving urgent, global public health needs.”

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    • China is spoiling for a fight. The US is talking tough. Indian and Chinese troops are on heightened alert on their contended border. The CCP has boosted it’s military budget by 6.1% at a time when their economy is tanking.
      Interesting times. Fascist dictators can be very dangerous when they feel that time might be running out.

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    • It was beyond time that someone stood up to them. WHO has always been a corrupt organisation who have done bugger all to help world health. This last occasion really showed them up for the useless over paid group of troughers they are. Hope many other countries follow the USA, it is great that Donald has the courage of his convictions to stop financing this corrupt organisation.

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    • Yah, history in the making!
      USA, pays 450 mill, China 40 mill. Suck on that luuvies,
      They will be brown bagging their lunch as the pay cuts hit.
      UN next, after the WHO.
      Followed by the Clinton trough!

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      • I wish the US election was before ours, perhaps Jacinda should delay it until December, perhaps Muller should lobby for it, Winston wanted it too didn’t he?

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  8. President Bolsonaro taking it against the Brazilian establishment that are seeking to lockdown Brazil and take control.
    Could any of our opposition leaders make such rousing pushback against the establishment, of the academia, media, etc..
    A bit of backgrounder.

    ….. calling it “social distancing.”
    Here comes the newspeak: everything was closed, and everyone told to stay at home, but it was not a lockdown.
    God knows what a lockdown would mean to them.
    At the same time, they began to bombard Bolsonaro with all sort of accusations, such as that he was anti-science, and the mainstream Brazilian media (that includes the newly created CNN-Brazil) blamed Bolsonaro for everything, ….
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    ….. brutality of a police-state became visible in videos that flooded social media (but not mainstream media) …..
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    Establishment began to ask for Bolsonaro’s impeachment.
    Moro claimed that the content discussed during the last ministerial meeting would prove that. the Supreme Court opened an investigation based on Moro’s accusation, and requested the tape of the meeting.
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    Normally, Ministerial meetings are recorded, portions of them are kept, and the tape is destroyed.
    But in this case, Bolsonaro ordered the tape not to be destroyed, and handed the tape, unchanged, to the Supreme Court for analysis.
    To the surprise of many, one of the Supreme Court judges made the tape public last Thursday, just erasing the mention to one country, obviously China.
    This unprecedented action was an attempt to hurt Bolsonaro. It backfired.
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    It showed that Bolsonaro is the same person in public and in private. Indeed, character is what you do when no one is looking.
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    In the tape he complains to his ministers that he wants them to defend his positions: family, God, Brazil, guns, freedom of speech and the free market.
    And if any minister is not happy with that, they can leave the government.
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    This tape is so powerful and so positive for Bolsonaro, that left-wing parties now are asking for its distribution to be censored.
    🙂
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    “Excerpts from 2 hour Jair Bolsonaro presser where he exclaims Jeffersonian views on Freedom”
    https://3speak.online/watch?v=vladtepesblog/dtxpwusa
    4 minutes 36 seconds

    Kiwis need to mull this over, just what do New Zealanders stand for?
    Give us this “God” driven family man, even if he is a catholic. 🙂

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    • …..”Give us this “God” driven family man, even if he is a catholic.”……

      Take care with what you wish for. Enslavement of the mind through religion is an order of magnitude worse than the chains & shackles of physical subjugation.

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      • I know what you mean Nasska, however that clip of him, and that take of him, would seem that he does not want the power of the “liberation theology” exhalted by church socialists involved in the State.

        Maybe he is closer aligned with Mao;’
        Every Communist must grasp the truth; “Political power grows out of the barrel of a God gun.” 🙂
        And the citizen can keep his gun.

        In 1773, Isaac Backus, a prominent Baptist minister in New England, wrote against a state-sanctioned religion, saying:
        “Now who can hear Christ declare, that his kingdom is, not of this world, and yet believe that this blending of church and state together can be pleasing to him?”
        He also observed that when “church and state are separate, the effects are happy, and they do not at all interfere with each other: but where they have been confounded together, no tongue nor pen can fully describe the mischiefs that have ensued.”

        ….. religious tests hath been the greatest engine of tyranny in the world. ….
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Backus

        Ok confounded by “your will be done, on earth” but I think that is given to be an individual’s prayer, but grasped by those seeking power.
        Not to be grasped by government, or any one’s bureaucracy.

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        • …..”where they have been confounded together, no tongue nor pen can fully describe the mischiefs that have ensued.”……

          Not a bad description of Islam where politics & faith are intertwined. Pretty close to the Russian church snuggling up to the Tsars & dining richly at their table while keeping the peasants in check with promises of paradise in the hereafter. The Catholics didn’t take any chances of being caught on the losing side when they got into bed with Hitler.

          Organised religion (as opposed to an individual’s simple belief in a Skydaddy) is as corrupt as any other bureaucratic organisation where opportunity exist for collusion and/or sending blame down the line. Like the governments they curry favour with the priests need to be changed & often.

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  9. Postal Voting is the goal, election fraud is in the making in NZ

    This is why we’re still under lockdown martial law. Cindy is building the case that while it’s perfectly safe to import hundreds of untested foreigners – it’s too dangerous to vote, that it’s too dangerous to have an election campaign, it’s too dangerous to be a functioning democracy and therefore – there should be a non-election election this year. One where only Cindy is allowed on TV, where there is no Leaders’ debate, where there is no campaigning, where there is no opportunity to question the great leader.

    That is the end game.

    I guarantee (if we had any journalists in this country) that if they OIA’d the Ministry of Justice now about advice they’ve provided to Govt on postal voting instead of a proper election, they’d get fobbed off or delayed. It’s in the pipeline.

    And as we can see in the US, there is overwhelming evidence of voter fraud when there are postal ballots.

    We’d better all start learning Spanish, because we’re turning into a S American banana republic!

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    • Does the goverment get a discount on the mail out rates, as I see the post office is putting the price up yet again to drive business away!
      Just about cheaper to courier your mail these days!

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      • And how can tv be failing due to the lack of advertisers during the lockdown, that was surely made up for by those interminable covid19 ads, even on during the wee small hours when few people would have been watching.

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      • Try paying for a post office box, I got the bill for our one the other day. Over $200 per year now.

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    • As a South African, all I can say is she is cringe worthy. What a twat. I have had the misfortune of occasionally watching a few minutes of that drivel. Absolute crap and she adds nothing to it. And I am not reading the Stuff article either.

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    • You should have emailed it to Ed to put up as a caption competition. Got to be a lot of clever comments about Cindy turning into an old boot!

      The likeness between Cindy and Helen is eerie!

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      • First they put the comrade Cindys picture on the arse of a bus,
        Then they put it on an old boot. They don’t like her do they!

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  10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YljLfakhcwk
    Republicans ‘making Biden pay’ for ‘unbelievably racist comments’

    Sky News host Chris Kenny says rapper Kanye West is spot on about “African-American rights in the US” following the “unbelievably racist comments” made last week by Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.

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  11. Why is the Minister of Sport (snigger) getting the Americas Cup crews into the country pronto? They’ve let a total of 1500 in so far – movie-makers etc. Soon we’ll be in a position where Team NZ is going to be seen as having an unfair advantage. And rightly so. Or is he stalling because sailing is a rich prick’s sport.

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  12. How we are losing free speech!

    …….. First, the legislation introduces an ability to issue takedown notices and legally punish non-compliant websites. … …
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    …… Now, select Government agencies – including the police – will be able to “issue a takedown notice relating to a particular online publication to an online content host if “the content is objectionable or if the person “believes, on reasonable grounds, that the online publication is objectionable”.
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    For the purposes of this measure, “online content hosts” refers to companies “both in New Zealand and overseas that provide services to the public”.
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    Companies issued a takedown notice must remove the content “as soon as is reasonably practicable”, although they may be asked to securely and privately retain a copy for later investigation.
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    Non-compliant hosts can be taken to court and made to pay a fine of up to $200,000.
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    Because these fines would be civil pecuniary penalties, international partners that have mutual agreements with New Zealand could also enforce them.
    In a regulatory impact statement, Department of Internal Affairs (DIA) officials cited Australia as an example of a country that would be able to enforce such a penalty.
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    ……… punishable by up to 14 years in prison if carried out by an individual or a $200,000 fine for corporations.

    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/26/1203355/takedown-notices-and-internet-filters-in-new-bill

    This will soon be used to, and force “self censoring” as the social engineering agenda of kindness, well-being, and ‘luv’ tax comes into play.

    Look at who can issue the “take down” notice. !
    Other people in other countries can also act as enforcers!
    So the UN and NGO’s can also enforce this?

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    • The whole bill is a disgrace and not required. NZ does not need this nonsense, stop it now.

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  13. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRr3-whDHzI
    Trump terminates relationship with World Health Organization
    Trump speaks on China’s takeover of Hong Kong

    President Trump announced that he is terminating the U.S.’s relationship with the World Health Organization. He did not take questions from the press.

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    • That’s it Mr Trump, say what you need and walk off!
      Leave the media interviewing their keyboards.

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    • Thanks a million for the link WG. My God…. this guy doesn’t mince his words does he!

      Coupled with the fact that China has this week announced a 6% (approx) increase in military spending together with virtually saying they are preparing to go onto a war footing, this must irrevocably change the power dynamics on a worldwide scale.

      Closer to home, I worry that New Zealand will utterly fail to support Scomo in his efforts to hold the CCP accountable for this Wuhan virus fuckfest and we’ll quickly become another of China’s South Pacific vassal states (along with Vanuatu, Kiribati, the Solomon Islands, Niue, Bougainville et al).

      Interesting times indeed.

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    • He gave WHO 30 days notice, in order for them to make or to start some reforms. Obviously they ignored him, so he acted. That is real leadership.

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      • Ross12 ,they never thought he’d actually do it ,,F—-King morons, You’d think by now rhese globalist turds would know Trump keeps his word.

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  14. One can wonder why about all this censorious control?
    Particularly from our academia, student unions and supposed educated.
    The opinionated media also.

    Tuition payments, government grants, private endowments and donations—and still they clamor for more.
    Driven by the superstition that *everybody* has to go to college, necessitating perpetual expansion, more and more hires, more and more pensions, Higher Education can’t seem to get by on just the billions it siphons out of the American economy. …..
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    …… Since 2018 the U.S. Dept. of Education has been investigating hundreds of millions of dollars to Harvard and Yale “in foreign gifts and contracts”. Mostly from guess who? If you guessed anyone but communist China, you just aren’t with it. And the universities have been stonewalling Congress’ demands for facts and figures on their finances.
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    These “gifts” have been going to professors and administrators—some have already been formally charged with filing false tax returns, trying to hide these sometimes rather hefty gifts—who are suspected of serving China’s interests by means of intellectual property theft, spying, propaganda, and counterfeiting. It makes for quite an ugly picture. ….
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    Since 2013, the University of Pennsylvania has collected a cool $67 million in “gifts” from China; and Jolly Joe “Quid pro Quo” Biden, who’s running for president, has set up, at the university, the Biden Center for Diplomacy and Engagement—which has, since its establishment in 2017, raked in another $22 million in Chinese “gifts”. …..
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    Since 2018 the U.S. Dept. of Education has been investigating hundreds of millions of dollars to Harvard and Yale “in foreign gifts and contracts”.
    Mostly from guess who? If you guessed anyone but communist China, you just aren’t with it.
    And the universities have been stonewalling Congress’ demands for facts and figures on their finances. ……

    https://newswithviews.com/how-much-of-our-country-does-china-own/

    In NZ there are the Confucius Institutes, the pressure of calling in more overseas students,
    with politicians laced into parties.
    Is some of that CCP control moving in Unions, and through Teacher Unions? Journalist union as run by E’tu

    As can be seen in the UN’s WHO, just a few bribes, a bit of flattery, and they are owned.
    Just note the OIC Organisation Islamic Cooperation and CCP reigning through the international bureaucracies.

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  15. I don’t get this do Mus;ims celebrate xmas?
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    The new social gathering restriction of 100 people has been described as feeling like Christmas, with worshippers overjoyed they can gather together again.

    At midday on Friday, the new level 2 restriction came into effect.

    Later the same day worshippers returned to Al Noor Mosque for Friday prayers for the first time since lockdown began in March.

    Muslim Association Canterbury President Mohamed Jama says it’s an amazing feeling.

    “Big, big, big feeling you know the celebration of Christmas Day,” he said.
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/05/religious-leaders-overjoyed-at-easing-of-coronavirus-alert-level-2-restrictions.html

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    • Thanks for posting Braybots. Absolutely fascinating. The left ultimately eating themselves.

      I see the CNN headquarters are now under attack by protestors.
      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t_0bztL6qU
      Protests erupt outside CNN headquarters in Atlanta

      Protesters reportedly have smashed windows of CNN building.

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  16. Sorry for the repeat but I put this on the wrong thread.

    This is not advertised as normal as at this stage it will be limited to 100.

    Friday, 12 June 2020

    10.15 a.m. to 11.30 a.m.

    at Café Agora, Kent Street, Frankton when my guest will be Simon O’Connor, MP for Tamaki. Simon is Spokesperson for Customs, Associate Social Development and Associate Housing and Urban Development (Social Housing).

    I look forward to seeing you and please advise your friends and those who are regular attendees at these events, that the monthly forum meetings are about to resume.

    As we are still restricted to gatherings of no more than 100 people, please reply to: macindoe.office@parliament.govt.nz or phone (07) 850 6262 to advise your attendance.

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    • Surely an autopsy would reveal if hypoxia was the cause of death or whether the victim died of a heart attack or other factors.

      Or maybe perception is reality.

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  17. All-white front bench ‘doesn’t matter’ – National MP Amy Adams
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/05/all-white-front-bench-doesn-t-matter-national-mp-amy-adams.html

    Selwyn MP Adams, who was going to retire at the end of this term but is now ranked third, said she backs the new list “100 percent”.

    “The list is Todd’s list, absolutely, but I absolutely agree that a list should be put together based on the right people in the right roles,” she told Newshub Nation on Saturday.

    “We have an incredible talent across our caucus. The hardest part of putting a list together is that you can’t have everyone in the top 10.

    “Every single one of the people in our caucus could serve well in the top 10… It doesn’t matter for us where in the caucus they sit.”

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    • Only an ideologically posessed individual would be obsessed with having a “correct quota of ethnicity in proportion to the general population.” Refusing to give someone a job on the basis of their race is racist.

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  18. I’m not an anti vaxxer…..I’m anti stupid.

    This is an excerpt from:
    Values and Vaccine Refusal
    Hard Questions in Ethics, Epistemology, and Health Care
    https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/9781315764078

    “Soft paternalism may count in favor of requiring vaccine refusers to attend education sessions about vaccines. Routine vaccination avoids that risk at a reasonable cost. On author’s view, parental refusal of routine vaccines is like letting a child play in a busy street, and coercive vaccination is like a police officer driving a child home. The fact that a parent believes that vaccine refusal is the best choice for their child does not mean that it is. State coercion may help to solve an assurance problem in the case of mass vaccination programs.”

    A frequent contributor to this publication is Christine Grady, MSN, PhD
    Chief, Bioethics for the NIH. 2010-2017
    She is also, Head, Section on Human Subjects Research
    https://clinicalcenter.nih.gov/meet-our-doctors/cgrady.html

    This is the real rib tickler…

    https://twitter.com/faucifan/status/1243932743400067073

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  19. The much anticipated (well for the last three days when it has only been available to subscribers) podcast with James Delingpole interviewing Prof. Dolores Cahill.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2ZdWXonPzA&feature=youtu.be

    Also a new German report which brands the whole Corona virus thing a “global false alarm.”

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/05/29/german-official-leaks-report-denouncing-corona-as-global-false-alarm/

    I hope Lyin’ Cindy gets her face well and truly rubbed in this. “There is more harm being caused by the ‘lockdown’ than by the virus, it was a huge mistake.”

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      • The whole thing is driven by far left politics, not facts and evidence. Fanatical Ardern supporters will not be swayed.

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    • That German report is great. They will try hard to bury it but it will not surprise me if more, similar reports come out from other parts of the world. There does not appear to be the big consensus like the one manufactured for the AGW scam.

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    • Had to laugh, there was 80 noise compliants over the helicopter relocated to Christchurch massacre celebrations that got canned at the last minute!

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  20. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12335587
    “For better or for worse, our high rates of immigration have been a magic ingredient in New Zealand’s strong economic growth over the past decade. Now Covid-19 border closures have stopped that in its tracks, leaving a gaping hole in the economic landscape.”

    Is New Zealand not a sustainable nation? If it (like Japan) had very restrictive immigration, would it face a net outflow of citizens and would this doom the country? What would be the pros and cons of this happening?
    Can New Zealand stand on its own two feet?

    What of the demographic consequences of flushing your population with an inflow from a completely different nation (like China) that has a different ethnic, cultural, linguistic, ethical and religious foundation?

    Will this build a unified nation or will it create a momentuous Tower of Babel?

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    • We could let the 50,000 people staying here whose visas preclude them from working work if it is an issue, but with so many unemployed should there be a shortage?

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    • It is behind paywall.

      NZ just made the 5 million mark, and indeed very quickly in the past few months, particularly it seems from returning expatriates.

      Still housing is in the gridlock lanes.
      Bottomless cost of Light rail still to grid lock the roads.
      A gridlock of spirits going north to Reinga & beyond.

      Water Auckland, not only to pay koha for taniwha, once a rahui time has been passed on the “lively” Waikato River.
      Then there is the Resource Consents to be passed.
      Money to be raised for the expanded water treatment plant, plus water pipes and all to still to be built.

      When more water comes through, will the sewer pipes and treatment plant cope?
      3 days no swimming on Auckland beaches, after a “rainfall event”; will that have to be extended to a week? or more?

      Wellington overflowing with sewerage, and again it is popping up.
      More no swimming zones at sea and beaches.

      So that alone brings in the sustainability question of more immigration.

      Then if Kiwis are able to leave NZ and government believes in more immigration, that seems to go along with some conspiracy theory that others got shot down over.

      The tower of Babel seems to be all politics and as some say, the future is in demographics or was it how many wives/partners & their wombs.

      Camus told me. “I don’t use the word ‘superior.’ ”
      He insisted that he would feel equally sad if Japanese culture or “African culture” were to disappear because of immigration.

      https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/04/the-french-origins-of-you-will-not-replace-us?fbclid=IwAR16je99Od1BXAlE2fiPdHL6p6qDeNNTGklxTAMJ3PT9h1SIKKKDl2dG8rY

      ……. free medical care to persons residing illegally in Sweden, was as Conservative leader a punishment of SD voters that they would understand that refugee policy will become even more liberal if you vote for the Sweden Democrats.

      The message to voters is that it should be possible to change immigration policy in a democratic way, without any voice, no matter which party you put it on, becoming a voice for increased immigration.

      – We will isolate them from power, he said, among other things, claiming that it was just that he had done when the government shortly after the election concluded an agreement with the Green Party on asylum and migration policy.

      – The effect of SD was that we had a policy in the opposite direction, said Prime Minister contentedly.
      http://www.friatider.se/reinfeldt-erknner-migrationsuppgrelsen-var-en-bestraffning-av-vljarna
      I used google translate.

      [England] January 2001, the innocuously labelled “RDS Occasional Paper no. 67”, “Migration: an economic and social analysis” focused heavily on the labour market case.

      But the earlier drafts I saw also included a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural.

      …….. the policy was intended – even if this wasn’t its main purpose – to rub the Right’s nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date. That seemed to me to be a manoeuvre too far.

      …… reluctance elsewhere in government to discuss what increased immigration would mean, above all for Labour’s core white working-class vote.

      This shone through even in the published report: the “social outcomes” it talks about are solely those for immigrants . …….
      https://www.standard.co.uk/news/dont-listen-to-the-whingers-london-needs-immigrants-6786170.html
      And so immigration tripled and more once in power.

      So are the voters, of the hosting country, ever told the truth?
      Are they ever properly asked?

      Another part seems to be that this demographic is a mostly based on modeling, to show supposed benefits, that pushes government to supposedly do the right thing.
      Using fear like there will not be enough people to pay taxes for pensioners.
      Not enough people for jobs that are considered to menial.
      At the same time there is a fear put out that automation will take over all the jobs.

      So who is behind the agenda to use all this computer modelling system, to remove commonsense from decisions.
      Even then the politicians know the truth, so connive, hide, collude with academia and media to keep the lid on truth, the costs, the strains of non integration.

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    • The idea that immigration is the answer to an economy is BS.
      Magic ingredient my arse..
      I have always been a fan of Reddell on this issue and he explains it really well.He advocates a number around 10,000 pa so that the country can deal with all the issues that come with immigration.
      Nationals approach of open borders was a failure and put enormous pressure on what I call real New Zealanders, to fund infrastructure etc to deal with mass immigration.
      The beneficiaries were the immigrants and along with that our quality of life diminishes.
      If National think the answer to fixing the economy is more mass immigration, we’re doomed.

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  21. Sausages for lunch from local meat shoppe here jn town. So much nicer than Super market selection As an aside Super markets or their supplier . I think have found another use for the plastic that was used to make single use bags .Sausage skins

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    • Next will be a hui with the mice to discuss how they can
      work together to create a gender neutral, holistic, environmentally
      sound solution. This will involve collaborating with Hone, and the local iwi
      and millions of taxpayer dollars.

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  22. What ‘heroes’ they are attacking an 82 year old woman. // Nasty yobs.

    Elderly woman attacked, robbed in Palmerston North
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/05/elderly-woman-attacked-robbed-in-palmerston-north.html

    An elderly woman has been attacked and robbed in Palmerston North by two youths, leaving her hospitalised with moderate injuries.

    The 82-year-old was walking toward the town’s central business district on Carroll Street just after midday on Saturday when she was approached by two youths with a bicycle.

    The pair – both wearing hooded sweatshirts, one black and the other red – grabbed her handbag, causing her to fall.

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    • Wasn’t me, honest.
      But I have done a return trip from Napier to Palmerston North today.
      Cheers to the young people waving a “Stop the Plandemic” sign in Dannevirke’s Main Street.
      I have never before made that trip and seen eight police cars on highway patrol. Rare to see more that one parked mobile cash register.
      Not primarily a shopping trip, but I did turn up at the Plaza. Folk haven’t forgotten how to shop. Cash registers were ringing in stores trading as normal, but some were being silly and expecting customers to queue for entry.
      Ardern might want to pffaff about imagining new rules for level two, but New Zealanders need to get on with their lives and kick the silly woman and her Dr Doolittle to touch where they belong.

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    • I mistook the Minneapolis mayour Jacob Frey to be Trudeau for a while.
      They could be cousins! Both cut from the same cloth, it seems.

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  23. Let’s go hiking in Japan!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Owqm6lF0gw
    (The Americans complain about how steep the Japanese hiking trails are. Still, nothing compared with the New Zealand sub-tropical rain forest that will kill you in a single night from exposure if you are not prepared.
    I personally enjoyed the Japanese mountains with their diversity of fauna and flora. (NZ bush tends to be monotonous by comparison.)

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  24. 16 week or 112 days until election day on Saturday 19 September…

    MAGA (Make Ardern Go Away) ☑️ ☑️

    👏

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  25. How do I apply for Queen’s Birthday Honours?
    If you have not applied yet, you are leaving it a bit late.
    To start your MBE nomination we simply need to make sure you meet all the requirements of the Queen’s honours criteria. Simply call Awards Intelligence on +44 (0)1444 230130 or email enquiries@awardsintelligence.co.uk for your free honours assessment.

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    • I worked for a Government department where our boss on a couple of occasions asked us for some names to submit to the Honours List as it was looking a bit sparse.

      I don’t recall that any of my brilliant suggestions were followed up.

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  26. I would be interested to know who is managing Labour’s PR/propaganda program for covid issue because I think it is the only thing that has been done really well for the last couple of months. But they really will have to get into overdrive with propaganda to counter the financial mess heading NZs way.

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    • No, I am over it!
      Turn off and would not buy toilet tissue from the chubby shelia on the NW be kind ad!
      So the media get 50 mill plus advertising, plus the party advertising dollor in the lead up to the election.

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  27. The Americans and the Japanese decided to engage in a competitive boat race. Both teams practiced hard and long to reach their peak performance.

    On the big day they felt ready. The Japanese won by a mile. Afterwards, the American team was discouraged by the loss. Morale sagged. Corporate management decided that the reason for the crushing defeat had to be found, so a consulting firm was hired to investigate the problem and recommended corrective action.

    The consultant’s finding: The Japanese team had eight people rowing and one person steering; the American team had one person rowing and eight people steering.After a year of study and millions spent analysing the problem, the consultant firm concluded that too many people were steering and not enough were rowing on the American team.

    So as race day neared again the following year, the American team’s management structure was completely reorganized. The new structure: four steering managers, three area steering managers and a new performance review system for the person rowing the boat to provide work incentive.

    The next year, the Japanese won by two miles. Humiliated, the American corporation laid off the rower for poor performance and gave the managers a bonus for discovering the problem

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  28. Doling out our tax funds to groups for personal interest in attending a music gig…

    ‘A lot of very bad art’ possible thanks to Govt’s latest package – artist
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/05/a-lot-of-very-bad-art-possible-thanks-to-govt-s-latest-package-artist.html

    But fellow artist Martin Poppelwell was a bit more wary of what might be created with the money.

    “It will undoubtedly be a very useful amount of money injected into the arts… but the outcome could be a lot of very bad art,” Poppelwell said.

    “I will quote Ernest Rutherford, ‘we didn’t have any money so we had to think.’

    But Poppelwell said he was still supportive of the fund, and trusted facilitators knew how to support the right projects and institutions.

    There will be $16m to support musicians to create new music and tour, which is now more possible as gatherings of up to 100 people are allowed.

    Ardern was keen to get to her first gig, saying she would like to support Nadia Reid’s 100-person concert announced earlier this morning.

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    • Commie Cindy wants to go to a gig. Paid for by you and me.
      How fucking wonderful.
      Roll on September. I want this dangerous bitch gone. Permanently.

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  29. D10: Britain proposes new alliance of 10 democracies including India, South Korea, Australia and G7 nations to break China’s monopoly on 5G technology

    Britain has planned to club India, South Korea and Australia along with G7 countries – UK, US, Italy, Germany, France, Japan and Canada – to create alternative suppliers of 5G equipment and other technologies to avoid dependence on China for vital technologies

    https://www.opindia.com/2020/05/d10-britain-alliance-india-south-korea-australia-g7-china-monopoly-5g-huawei/

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  30. After the Ruby Princess cruise, lets hope you missed the CCP virus.

    Now a letter has been sent to all passengers on the cruise 8th -19th March.
    Telling them that a crew member is now being treated for tuberculosis.
    The crew member was diagnosed a few days ago
    NSW Health said the risk of infection for passengers was low and requires “close and prolonged contact”

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-30/coronavirus-ruby-princess-passengers-warned-tuberculosis/12303858

    That cruise seems to be a trip from hell.

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      • I thought they were already doing the “contact tracing” for those problems, and would have only needed an up grade for CCP virus.

        Yet those old problems still persist proving that the contact tracing and modelling of these diseases has always been behind the 8 swinging ball’s’. 🙁

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  31. There is a fair bit more than the snippets I have pulled out.

    Powerful Tucker Carlson Segment On The Minneapolis Riots & Our Feckless Leaders On Both Sides
    .
    ~City burns as law abiding citizens try to carry on. …..
    “On television, hour by hour, we watch these people, criminal mobs destroy what the rest of us have built.
    They have no right to do that.
    They don’t contribute to the common good, they never have.
    Yet suddenly they seem to have all the power.”
    .
    ~Criminal mobs destroy business’s & neighbourhoods. …..
    “None of the thugs looting Target or the well-paid nihilists on television who are egging them on have added a thing. Nothing.”
    .
    ~It is not a racist dispute.
    .
    ~Our leaders have sided with chaos. …..
    “On a White House executive staff call just this morning key domestic policy advisors Brooke Rollins & Jeron Smith argued that it might seem ‘racist’ to say anything about the rioting in Minneapolis.
    Better just to let it happen, so that’s what they’re doing.”
    .
    ~We are told that, the crimes of the mob is our fault.
    .
    ~If the game is rigged, why are we still playing it. ……
    We have more power than we think we do.”
    .
    ~Leader waste our time, with hollow posturing. ….
    “They’ll feed you pointless symbolic victories & expect you to celebrate like you’ve actually won something. But when the mob comes, they’re gone, you’re on your own.”

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1266534059343134720
    7 minutes.

    Put it pretty well, but I feel there is a lot more to expose, and open up on.

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