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  1. In our country over the years these horrendous debt forecasts have always been 20 or 25 years in the future ,so far in the future that most people just ignore them and go about their business.
    This is not a forecast debt this is an actual debt that is going to come down on us like a hammer blow in just 3 years ,of course as is always the way with these things the people that made the decisions to financially cripple us for decades wil carry on through the carnage with no drop in their already high living standards, can you imagine Ardern,Robinson,Jackson,Peters,Mahuta,etc ever going to a food bank ?
    Did any of these billy bunters in parliament stop for just a couple of days to think through this policy before diving into it boots and all ?

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    • I am no economist, but this gives some reasons why debt was tempting, low interest rates, so money by institutions, governments are to be spent with free abandon, as there is no restraint, no consideration of the interest rate.

      Note also how GDP seems to keep trending down.
      Like the money being spent, is of no value, or simply wasted.

      Then the optimism of economists etc. that does not pan out, does not come to fruition.

      Eerily our Reserve Bank echoes the Fed Reserve Bank.

      “there is no limit” to what the Fed can do…and “there’s a lot more we can do to support the economy, and we’re committed to doing everything we can as long as we need to”.
      But remember, this is an in an effort to avoid a “free-market” pricing of US Treasury debt, that would almost surely cause large portions of federal taxation to be utilized just to pay the interest on the debt…leaving Congress with nothing but difficult compromises between taxation (likely significantly higher) and spending (likely significantly lower).
      That would be bring a whole lot of third rail issues into immediate focus, not exactly the platform that gets many sitting Congressman or Presidents re-elected.

      https://econimica.blogspot.com/2020/05/how-federal-reserve-unilaterally-de.html

      The problem is that NZ will continue and CoL will be elected as more money will be thrown around, while the IMF, World Bank, will grant, so long as the UN gains more sovereignty, like the “UN Global Migration Pact”, control of “free speech” etc..
      They will control the “purse strings”, so eventually some real stick, of “austere packages” or carrots of more money, to secure the sell out of ownership of NZ.

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  2. FFS , In 2024 every person from newborn to 110 years old will owe NZ $62.000, I hate to be seen as greedy but they aren’t getting my family’s $434.000 ,Imagine that ,$434k owed just by my imediate family,We are F—-D these are frightening figures folks.

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    • It’s worse than that, Rev. Given that half of households (not sure of figure) are net tax-recipients, you may need to double that figure..

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    • Just look at the amount of people who just had to go to Queebstown this weekend.
      The tourist mecca of NZ, the place were the pretty people gather to buy overpriced things!
      Did it even have any snow?

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      • “But forward bookings are light”

        https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/lift-tourism-operators

        Yes, all spouting how busy busy they are, and they are, but it won’t last. Domestic tourism will not save the industry.

        Had a great lunch in Picton yesterday, and the eateries were all but packed. I just can’t see it lasting. It’s like a honeymoon at present.

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        • Look to Air NZ for the signals of where tourism is headed.
          They have been on the front foot.
          It is grim.

          Tourism in 2022 will be less than 30% of what it was in 2019.
          The first gulf war 1990/91 caused a 2 year shadow in tourism.
          Tourism can crash fast but take years to recover.

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        • Last week hubby and I stayed in a motel overnight on a work trip. The motel was fairly new but only adequate. I thought the $135 charge was excessive especially when a plastic tub provided as a sink to wash the dishes had to be filled in the shower!

          Hubby was talking to the owner who said most of their ‘customers’ were dropped off at night from Womens Refuge.

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        • I had a friend go to Rotorua yesterday, it was packed, nowhere to eat (not literally I am sure) and the upper Redwood walk way was full too, lucky she was happy to have her feet on the ground.

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            • People have saved money during the lockdown? All those cappacinos?
              I confess to having found the cost at Uni exhorbidant in the past and certainly not cut to the student cloth, and yet they were always busy

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      • Obviously the people who got away to places like Queenstown were simply unwinding after an extremely stressful couple of months locked away from the world in house arrest.

        Good on them. Don’t knock it. My wife and I have travelled all over the world and our visit last year (sans snow) to Queenstown opened our eyes to what NZ offers. It’s a great place.

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    • I wont read the article but guess it is some NZ university wanker.
      New shub is a dead loss.

      Yeah Right. Open the way for the Pacific to flood NZ with tourism dollars.
      Not even funny.

      You really have to think about legalising weed with those comments !
      Should there be drug testing of people who work in NZ universities – the great halls of mediocrity ?
      They do it for truck drivers and forestry workers – essential services.
      I guess Unis are not essential services when the likes of Wiles, Hendy, Baker and anyone from Massey can spout mindless drivel that bears no relation to reality.

      NZ carries the Polynesian Pacific.
      Problems in Samoa like the 2009 Earthquake and Tsunami -NZ Gives.
      Tokelau – give give give give give ad infinitum
      Tonga- they are a ‘sovereign nation’ with their own King/Queen but we help them out often
      Nuie, Cooks, protectorates.
      Some Islander gets lost at sea on their 25 year old dingy it is a NZ taxpayer funded Orion that does the search.
      They give nothing to NZ.
      It is all the other way.

      They will not help the NZ economy. Each one is a drain and this current mob of Ardoom-driven country wreckers have started giving our money away to the Melanesian islands as well.
      This has traditionally been the domain of Australia.
      We have seen so many top up to the PIs in the last 2 years.

      They are a financial liability to NZ.
      The best they offer is rugby nursery …and internationally it looks like rugby has been set back 30 years.

      Australia has the money to have tourists spend here.
      Pacific islands = irrelevant for that.
      Tell that idiot to stick a sock in it.

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  3. I have mentioned before the supposedly benign “Confucius Institutes” in NZ universities.
    USA have found that millions of $$ flow to them, to gain influence.

    Another entity on dozens of U.S. college campuses are “Chinese Students and Scholars Associations”, whose stated mission is nearly identical to that of Confucius Institutes: to celebrate and promote Chinese culture. ….
    ….. Another entity on dozens of U.S. college campuses are “Chinese Students and Scholars Associations”, whose stated mission is nearly identical to that of Confucius Institutes: to celebrate and promote Chinese culture.

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=14955
    So how effected are our universities? and how well do they fit in with CCP censorship controls.
    Certainly would fit in well ‘de platforming’ free speech. 🙁
    —————————-

    It seems to have become an industry, from just being agents, that handle how students apply, to being a “full on one stop shop” to an overseas degree.

    found that 80 percent of Chinese students use agents to apply to U.S. colleges, with even more engaging in cheating.
    The company approximated that 90 percent of recommendation letters and 70 percent of college essays submitted by Chinese students are fraudulent.
    Additionally, 50 percent of previous grade transcripts are also fake.
    Ten percent lied about academic or extracurricular achievements, and 30 percent lied about financial aid information.

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=14951

    It was noted in NZ a while back, though Indian if I recall correctly and the students blaming all their problems on agents, in their endeavors not to be deported.
    —————-

    It seems the Australians here certainly know how to run a “kangaroo court” for the CCP.

    “The University of Queensland has expelled me for two years for criticizing the Chinese Communist Party,” Pavlou said in a tweet. “They gave no reasoning and threatened consequences if I breached the confidentiality of their decision. I will immediately appeal to the Supreme Court.”
    “Refusing to provide exonerating evidence,” his tweet response continued,
    “calling no witnesses and providing no reasoning for my expulsion during a secret hearing no one was supposed to know about.
    What an amazing standard UQ has set in regards to transparency – at least by Beijing’s standards.”

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=14950

    What pressures do the students in NZ buckle under?
    The shaming, the doxxing, to keep everything quiet and we know the NZ media would go self censor along with that.

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    • The Narrative is the monster. The police must not feed the monster.
      Alternatively, attack the Narrative with the facts. Shine a light on the parents of the Narrative and their motives.
      This is the role of true investigative journalism.

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        • sooty ,what a Joke this shelia Paris goebels, FFS Paris is fast becoming one of the more racist cities in france and we all know about Goebells, what an unfortunate name this semi elite creature bears.
          Her problem is she genuinely thinks she has celebrity in our country, If she’s so f—–king famous in the US why is she ALWAYS here ?

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  4. I can’t believe even the herald could publish this rubbish. Basically the author follows his keyboard until he arrives at the conclusion that Todd Muller is “dishonest and disrespectful”.

    “The other day I was wasting time looking at YouTube videos and I came across Peter Bence’s channel. Bence is a Hungarian musician who does incredible things with only a piano and a loop machine. His cover of Despactio is thoroughly recommended viewing. After watching some of Bence’s clips, I opened the lid on our old piano and had a play. I was quickly reminded of the fact that, despite all the desire in the world, I’m not a competent pianist and have no right to call myself one.”

    That analogy has been rolling around in my mind for the past few days ever since I heard Todd Muller in his post-coup news conference telling the voting public just how concerned he is about small business in New Zealand and that he is going to personally take on that shadow portfolio to give it his experience and
    That analogy has been rolling around in my mind for the past few days ever since I heard Todd Muller in his post-coup news conference telling the voting public just how concerned he is about small business in New Zealand and that he is going to personally take on that shadow portfolio to give it his experience and attention.

    I have nothing against Todd Muller, who strikes me as the most quintessential of National Party members, but what struck me was his ardent identifying with the plight of small businesses. It almost felt like he was claiming a lifetime’s experience battling in the small business trenches.

    I did a bit of research on old mate Muller and discovered that, after a stint in politics as one of Jim Bolger’s offsiders, he went out into the business world where he had stints at Fonterra and Zespri, two organisations that are pretty much the definition of not small businesses. Even Apata, the fruit post-harvest company that Muller ran for a while, is a long-established and significant operation.

    So, for the most part, Muller’s employment career involved corporate office buildings with, one assumes, regular visits to the farms to keep farmer shareholders happy.

    I’ve never been employed by one of these massive corporates, but I have done some consulting to companies like them, and I’m always slightly amazed at what life is like inside these megaliths.

    Day-to-day activity seems to be a frenetic pace of never-ending meetings. Many staffers run around carrying incongruously large pads of paper. Yellow paper no less. I’ve never actually seen anyone write on said pads, and the actual content of said meetings are an utter mystery to me.

    What I’m fairly certain of is that neither Muller, nor any of the thousands upon thousands of colleagues he worked with at Fonterra or Zespri have ever worried about how they were going to pay their staff the next week.
    I’m pretty sure Muller never had to provide a personal guarantee on the lease of Fonterra corporate HQ and, forgive me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty confident that neither Muller nor the legion of other well-paid execs in these sorts of companies spend their nights tossing and turning wondering if their family homes will be taken from them to meet company debts.

    These are all very real, and very common experiences of most, if not all, small business owners and, given that New Zealand is a country dominated by small businesses, those lived experiences are something that our politicos need to genuinely understand.

    Now, I’m mindful that there is a certain irony in someone seen to be suggesting that just because a person hasn’t got experience of doing something, they shouldn’t be thought of as competent to do it. That is, after all, the clarion call of the National Party as it heads into this year’s election. Their contention being that because the Government isn’t chock full of people who have worked inside business, that they can’t possibly be entrusted to create an environment within which business can prosper.

    I’m not convinced about that argument; there are no end of examples of people making good decisions without having domain expertise – get good advice, use intuition, pattern match from other experiences and all of a sudden decision making isn’t quite as difficult as it might seem.

    So I have no beef with Muller beating the small business drum. After all, the more people who know just how important us small business owners are to our economy, the better.

    But please, Muller, don’t gild the lily. Your corporate experience, while likely very useful for balancing the egos of your caucus colleagues, doesn’t make you any kind of small business guru. To claim otherwise is dishonest and disrespectful.

    And I’ll carry on trying to improve my performance on the piano but, have no fear, I’ll not be calling myself a skilled pianist any time soon.

    – Ben Kepes is a Canterbury-based entrepreneur and investor.

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    • Despite all that, he still know more than Jacinda Ardern but you are not writing about that, Ben Kepes, are you? And if challenged on that, you will trot out the “But she has advisers” as if Mr Muller would not.

      This is where the rest of us put your bame on a black list and make sure nobody we know does business with you.

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    • Ben Kepes is a bit of a dick.

      I was at a seminar about 5 years ago in which he flew to Auckland and constantly told us he could have done the seminar from his home in Canterbury… such is the technology at his fingertips

      My only question- why didn’t he then?

      The main thing I remember- he could be Marty Feldman’s son…with those eyes !

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    • The only reason Muller wants to champion small businesses is because there will so many in the shit in the coming months, that he will be seen as some sort of guru and be saying all the right things. Platitudes from the like of him are absolutely useless. But that is all we will get from any politician.
      I have more small business experience in my left ball than any of this lot in parliament.

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      • Editor,excellent to see others that have known for years what useless C—Ts we have down that big house, they are the reason our country has declined in every standard over the last decades and some have been there for decades .

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      • Yeah, but nobody cares what you think… You first have to become a trougher, make a maiden speech with cheesy stories about yourself, spend endless hours telling others what they want to hear and smoozing voters. More hui than doee…

        Somehow I don’t think any of that is you Ed. 😂

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        • WG
          You are right getting elected is the easy bit.,Getting bureaucracy ( or colleagues ) to listen is the hard part.
          Get it wrong and electeds are frozen out or worse ,

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    • Given that Todd and his family lived around the corner from me and my family, went to school with my kids I can say that this guy doesn’t know shit.
      His Dad started out in a small way and went on to run a kiwifruit orchard, a small packhouse that was the norm way back then and build a kiwifruit advisory and contracting business.
      While Todd may not have been the owner he certainly was emersed in that family and its growing business.

      That’s the problem when the greatest skill you have is to consult Google. Despite him thinking so Google doesn’t know everything.

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  5. I hear that Paris Gobels is holding a BlackLives Matter protest rally today in Dorkland. She says it is to the US Embassy but as that is a long way to walk and would take a few days, perhaps she means consulate. FFS I think NZ has proven Black lives matter at least to the Government if not their actual tribes etc etc, but possibly not urban Maori, look at the money they have thrown at them over the Covid emergency. So why would she worry about it, apart from face time on Red news and getting her profile out there. USA is one long way away from here. I think we have enough to worry about here in NZ rather than worry about another country at the moment.

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    • Gobels? Really? As I’ve been saying for years, the modern fascist socialists are indistinguishable from Hitler’s national fascist socialists of the 30s. So now, they using the same surnames as prominent Nazis?

      If you did this in a political thriller it would be thrown out as being too obvious.

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    • Who will be counting assembled protestors into groups of 100 and ensuring social distancing?

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      • No worries, I don’t think they will reach 100!
        You watch the media will be doing some creative photography!
        They should be marching to the mad queens house!
        She’s not there, slumming in Gissie!

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      • Paris, she is good at choreography apparently, that must require spacing, will they dance?

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    • Are the police corrupt and politically compromised?

      Well, given the worst Police Commissioner ever just got a gong, I’d say yes.

      And as for the protests, well the cops have been having a lovely time harrassing law abiding citizens during lockdown – my guess is that they will leave the BLM protesters alone (because they have rights and the rest of us don’t)!

      This is what fascism looks like! Right here in NZ. Just watch the cops will not break up the protest – but don’t you dare have a few friends around for drinks! The armed offenders squad will be around in a flash!

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  6. Golly gee she is just riling up racism and hatred of the police to get her name in the media? We don’t need stupid and inflammatory statements from self-promoters.

    “Our police armed trial killed only Māori & Pasifika victims,” she tweeted.

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/green-mp-weighs-into-racism-debate-saying-m-ori-and-pasifika-victims-unfairly-targeted-nz-police?auto=6160617473001

    Tweet from Golriz Ghahraman
    “#JusticeForGeorge from Aotearoa means recalling that wahine Māori are the most incarcerated indigenous women, and our police armed trial killed only Māori & Pasifika victims. We must dismantle the centuries old systems that target black and brown bodies everywhere.#ArmsDownNZ

    To clarify those police shootings occurred during the period of the Armed Response Trial, not by the particular trial officers. The point was, police disproportionately use force against Māori and Pasifika people, and that risk can’t but be increased with further arming of police”

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    • The problem would go away if Maori stopped committing a disproportionate volume of crime.

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      • It always stands out that Maori and others who commit crime assume ‘everyone breaks the law’. It would be useful for them to learn that becoming somewhat successful in life is through hard work and not by taking unlawful shortcuts. Build stability, less chaos in their lives.

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    • I would like to see her clarify a few more things starting with did she really live in a war zone and is she really a refugee?

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      • I think it’s been proved Golly Gee lived miles from any shooting!
        She saw the shooting on tv, just like us!

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        • Sooty.

          It was many many miles away.

          i can see why she is down in the green list.

          An embarrassment to her comrades who don’t like her as well.

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          • It’s tribal. The maori in the greens are as wracist as the rest of us. They didn’t like a pretty little bimbo showing up their shrillness.

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      • How Dare You ?
        Tarquin

        She is a victim.

        You are compounding her suffering.
        You white privileged so and so.

        Take that.
        If you don’t desist, Big Guy will come around and tell you his ‘jokes’ until you hari kari .

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  7. Good luck to all those farming who are moving farms or helping moving family on Gypsy Day. Rotten weather doesn’t help.

    Farming: What is Moving Day, who is involved and how is it affected by COVID-19?
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/rural/2020/06/farming-what-is-moving-day-who-is-involved-and-how-is-it-affected-by-covid-19.html

    In a nutshell, Moving Day, or Gyspy Day as it’s sometimes known, is the start of the dairy season and sees a large number of dairy farming families, shareholders, contract milkers and employees move to new farms.

    The day will see an estimated 5000 farmers pack up and move, according to Jane Muir from DairyNZ.

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  8. National Party – Stupid is as stupid does!

    I know this is behind the paywall, but enough can be seen to understand that Audrey Young diagnoses part of the many failings of the manufactured ‘his and her’ team of Muller and Kaye. In particular, Young points out the obvious problem with Kaye – that she is such a try-hard – that she is crowding out Muller.

    It has the chemistry of an arranged marriage. This is not two politically aligned, idealogically in tune savvy political operators (think Blair & Brown, Key and English, Hawke and Keating, Trump and Pence) joining forces to lead a political movement. This is just two donkeys, that have been put in the harness together because the party hierarchy think “the optics” look good.

    Even if Muller has a Lazarus-like resurrection and starts performing at all, Kaye is going to continually drag him down. Someone needs to tell her about the quote from Abraham Lincoln
    ”Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

    Well Nikki Kaye certainly removed all doubt this week!

    But we didn’t need to see Kaye in action to know she was going to be a disaster, it was already set in stone because David Farrar is such a fan. We’ve seen over the past few years that David Farrar has an unbroken record of supporting the worst possible national leaders:
    – Hillary
    – Macron
    – Rory Stewart in the UK instead of Boris
    – Bridges in 2018
    – Buttgieg as the DNC nomination
    And now he’s fluffing Kaye. At some point aren’t National going to need someone who has better than a 100% WRONG record of picking political contests to read the tea leaves for them??

    (Breaking News)

    Just to add further proof, it now appears DPF is supporting China joining the TPP, now that they’ve destroyed our economy due to our dependence on them, he wants to extend that dependence! Maybe the CCP is one of his new subscribers?)

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    • D P, National are being led by three lightweights ,Kaye and whats her name are just terrible and Muller has turned out to be all piss and wind , the entire swamp of talent in Wellington is as deep as a pothole.

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      • The good people have stayed out of politics.

        This is compounded by the effect of the media filth doing nasty hit jobs on good people.
        It is OK for Tom Scott to threatened to rape the Prime Ministers daughter if the PM is Notional Party but not OK if anything nasty is said about the LIebour pardy PM’s family.
        Hell, the top cop will even say …stop being mean to Gaylord.

        Good people will stay away.
        It is the result of 40 years of marxist replacement in media, public service, and education.
        It worked.
        We are left with dross.
        Christopher Luxon is the least memorable CEO of Air NZ in the last 20 years.
        And he is the great white (privilege) hope !

        It is all downhill from here.

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        • Yes – the good people have stayed out of politics. This is one of the great successes of the lunatic left, they wrap themselves in shrouds of sanctimony and cry foul the second anyone says “mean things” about them, they pass hate speech laws administered by their tame socialist/activist judges and they expect a free pass to destroy the lives of any conservatives who stand against them.

          Exactly like their idol, Hitler, did in the 1930s. At some point the similarities are so huge, so overwhelming that “coincidence” becomes mathematically impossible.

          Who funds all the shit from the Left? Soros! How did Soros start life? By collaborating with the Nazis to take his fellow Jews to the gas chambers! His early influences are shaping his behaviours now and those of his minions on the left.

          Remember this guy’s life ambition is to destroy the USA. The clock is ticking and he’s pushing hard.

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      • I would say that “all piss and wind” is the perfect description of this man’s performance so far. Well said!

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      • Goodfellow needs to get the hell out of their and they need (to quote The Godfather) a war-time consiglieri!

        Goodfellow is a pathetic milksop and he’s presided over the collapse of support for the Nats and if he had one iota of integrity he’d fuck off.

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        • Ah yes
          Be Kind

          Its a winner.
          Results can be crap like a smashed economy or losing to England but if you Be Kind it is all ka pai

          Even the road signs tell you to Be Kind

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      • Say hi to Mama Bear Pascal, I enjoyed meeting you both at Furnace the other night in Hamilton. 😊

        Thanks again Chuck and Ed for organising.

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        • She says hi back! Had a bit of a relaxed day, visited some of her friends. Tomorrow the madness starts again.

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    • Keiran Read? It was a participation award.

      Remember – this is what it’s like under socialism – just turning up is enough. The fact that he was an uninspirational leader who had nothing to offer when the heat was on against England – doesn’t count against him.

      If you look at most of the rest of the gongs, they are for being ‘faithful’ and taking part. No outstanding performers or service.

      Like everything else, the lunatic left want to devalue everything that is good about our country and turn us against each other.

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      • Do they give them out with bus tickets.
        I would like to see a list of people that said stuff you and you can fuck off!

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      • 178 people? Seems a bit much. You used to actually have to do something massively significant, but these just seem like handouts. Making movies while living in the USA? Why?

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  9. Meanwhile State Highway 1 up to and through Northland is still not being upgraded to the motorway required.

    Northland rail work begins as part of $200 million overhaul

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/northland-rail-work-begins-part-200-million-overhaul

    As part of the Government’s $204.5 million Provincial Growth Fund investment to revitalise Northland rail, KiwiRail is upgrading the Northland Line to improve journey times as well its resilience and reliability.

    The onset of major work replacing bridges, improving tunnels and upgrading the rail line to Whangarei will result in more reliable train services and enable more freight to be carried by rail, KiwiRail Group chief executive Greg Miller says.

    The work will include replacing five aging bridges and lowering tracks in the 13 tunnels. When complete, trains will be able to pull hi-cube containers on the Northland Line.

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  10. So the Aussies are going to be invited to join the G7 by POTUS, will there be an invite for us ?
    And with Cindys standing with POTUS will it become G7 1/4.LOL.

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    • Invite Cindy? Trump knows exactly what the SLG who calls him names is. 😈🤥

      Australia invited YES, NZ NO!

      That’s a political snub to our rude socialist Cindy
      LOL!! 🤣🤣

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    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIfXsYrTeOU
      Australia is set to receive an invitation to join the Group of 7 nations after US President Donald Trump moved to expand the organisation.

      Congrats to Australia. That is prestigious world stage stuff ScoMo! Well worth being world news and surely making the cover of international magazines too. 👏

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    • The Cactus has been churning out good work for the last 2 months.

      No holds barred.
      You don’t get confused about what side she is on !

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      • These clowns who make up the stoopid rules eg social distancing at a bbq (see inside CK )
        What a fuckin joke. As if anybody is going to adhere especially with 6 tinnies or a bottle of wine down the throat. Dickheads. Im picking they have no friends and are socially isolated.

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  11. Government should tell Kiwis now what alert level 1 will look like – Todd Muller
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/06/government-should-tell-kiwis-now-what-alert-level-1-will-look-like-todd-muller.html

    The new leader of the National Party says the Government should explain to Kiwis why it will be another week before they decide on a move to alert level 1.

    Todd Muller said in a press release Kiwis have already made big sacrifices and the Government must front up and explain why that is not enough to move to level 1 now.

    Government should tell Kiwis now what alert level 1 will look like – Todd Muller

    The Government doesn’t plan to reconsider moving out of level 2 restrictions until June 8, but with the country now going more than a week without finding any new cases of COVID-19, there’s growing unease with the economic damage the restrictions are causing.

    “There are fewer cases now than there was before any restrictions were put in place, Muller said.

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  12. Bloody white supremacists…such good law abiding citizens…..oh wait!

    Pair of Brooklyn lawyers including Ivy League corporate attorney charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD cruiser

    “No rational human being can ever believe that hurling firebombs at police officers and vehicles is justified,” said Brooklyn U.S Attorney Richard Donaghue.

    Neither Rahman nor Mattis have been arrested before, authorities say. They face federal charges and will be arraigned Monday.

    https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-molotov-nypd-brooklyn-lawyers-charged-20200531-nxamwxnjmzgvzmczi6z2ypcbzi-story.html

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  13. Attorney General William P. Barr’s Statement on Riots and Domestic Terrorism

    Federal law enforcement actions will be directed at apprehending and charging the violent radical agitators who have hijacked peaceful protest and are engaged in violations of federal law.

    To identify criminal organizers and instigators, and to coordinate federal resources with our state and local partners, federal law enforcement is using our existing network of 56 regional FBI Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTF).

    The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly.”

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-william-p-barrs-statement-riots-and-domestic-terrorism

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  14. Last night I was watching the live coverage of the guys leading up to docking with the ISS.
    Have to say it is remarkable that we can watch this and it was so clear.I missed the docking at 2am as I fell asleep.

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  15. Gosh Cindy, taking licensed firearms off good folk doesn’t appear to be working very well.

    Investigation underway after firearms incident in Auckland
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/investigation-underway-after-firearms-incident-in-auckland

    Emergency services are responding to a firearms incident in Auckland today, with officers on the scene in two separate suburbs.

    The two incidents in Grafton and St Johns are related, a police spokesperson confirmed

    Body found in Grafton following firearms incident in St Johns, Auckland
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/06/police-at-scene-of-overnight-firearms-incident.html

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  16. They fear he knows where all the dead bodies are!
    Lock them up! struck fear into their hearts, that they will lose everything.

    Donald Trump, the famous playboy womanizer, is the most pro-Christian President in recent memory.
    Trump is a heretic from the Leftist church, the secular religion of today’s political and media elites, and as such he must be treated as heretics were in the old days

    Religious faith can be rational, but it often is not, and the Leftist [atheist] religion is not rational.
    It is a set of feelings, and emotions, and manifestations of wishful thinking about the world that can be frankly dangerous when it collides with reality – as the coronavirus showed yet again.

    https://pjmedia.com/columns/robert-spencer/2020/05/29/the-real-reason-why-they-hate-him-donald-trump-is-a-heretic-from-the-lefts-secular-religion-n462307

    The truth has been a causality as the smears, running from the light with accusations & obfuscation, by academia & media with their “trough feeders”.

    As some will say “God addled” but so long as the Church, Synagogue, Mosque & Temple stay out of the State!
    But nor is it an excuse that opiate carrying evangelistic atheists with social warrior dreams be the only ones to prevail in governments.

    Christianity, though not a “secular religion” in that sense, is a “secularist religion”, in the sense that it rejects the merging of religion and state.
    “Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, to God the things that are God’s,”
    “My Kingdom is not of this world.” He tells Pontius Pilate that because “My Kingdom is not of this world,”

    For all of Trump’s bombast, the media take him literally, but not seriously.
    The supporters take him seriously, but not literally.
    It works as it slices & dices the media & his opponents, to their frustration.

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  17. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SzgABwiOcM
    Trump praises National Guard and blames violence on anarchists

    President Trump on Sunday praised the National Guard for their response to protests nationwide, while blaming violence on anarchists. He said he wanted to declared Antifa a domestic terrorism organization

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  18. Anybody want to bet against Jacinda ‘The Mad Queen’ turning up at one of these NZ ‘Black Lives Matter’ protests?
    A frowny face for the cameras followed by a speech about ‘nasty wacism’ ?
    Then International adulation from the fawning Left-Wing media…

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  19. Do I assume correctly that the figures in the image above are public + private debt / person ?

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    • What difference would it make?
      they are so bad just add or subtract a couple of zeros if it worries you

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      • I agree Ed, but if I’m going to quote them to others I just want to be sure with what I am saying.

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        • Why? Would it make a difference to them if you were telling the truth?
          Figures are fluid these days. What might be correct today will be inaccurate next week. Just ask Cindy, she will have all the answers.

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  20. Well it turns out the four cops involved in the Floyd killing were a white guy with an Asian wife, a Latino, an Arab and a Chinese. That sounds like an obvious case of white privilege. Or maybe it was anti simianism.

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    • Nah that can’t be right- The guy on TVNZ said it was “four racist white cops”…
      Our Media wouldn’t lie to us…Surely?

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  21. Interesting article about bank rates and their effects. The author discusses how lowering interest rates can actually reduce spending –ie. does not necessarily stimulate economies. It is not too technical.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/here-stunning-chart-blows-all-modern-central-banking

    ” I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. The issuing power of currency shall be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

    If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.” Thomas Jefferson ( 200 years ago.)

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  22. Show this video to any friends or family who are intending on going to the ‘Black Lives Matter’ protests

    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/husband-and-wife-beaten-by-thugs-armed-with-2x4s-after-asking-them-to-stop-vandalizing/?fbclid=IwAR3iIMcrd7W5qkCucKaCHhrnNmaKA5dm2mkGOmlNkcE8s1LuF4EvwlAcSUE

    Explain to them that the person being flung around like a ragdoll and being violently smashed into a wall is a small woman trying to protect her store….

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    • The person who filmed that is just as bad as the attackers. The guy with the white shirt obviously had an attack of conscience but was too gutless to help the woman. Maybe he decided he wasn’t being paid enough //

      But you are right CO , the people going to those protests have no idea what is going on.

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  23. What a load of utter bollocks.

    “That white supremacy takes the form of the over-representation of the Māori and Pacific community in prison [and] the socio-economic disparity that is prevalent in those groups.”
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/06/that-same-white-supremacy-exists-in-nz-auckland-george-floyd-protest-organisers-urge-kiwis-to-march-with-them.html

    Mazbou Q cited Stats NZ data that shows Māori make up 51 percent of New Zealand’s prison population, despite being just 16.5 percent of the total population.

    “This is not just an American issue, it’s a humanitarian issue, and everyone should get involved. We have a political relationship with the US, and our leaders ought to hold them to account – there’s been none of that to date,” he continued.

    “We need to recognise that as a nation, we consume a lot of black culture… because of this, we believe there is a heightened obligation to highlight issues of injustice faced by that community that we actively benefit from.”

    “The militarisation of our police force will inevitably result in the disproportionate executions of our Māori and Pacific community members.”

    “These individuals were all people of colour, which sets an extremely dangerous precedent going forward,” the Facebook event description reads. “Our Government must roll back this project before more are needlessly killed.”

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    • ”That white supremacy takes the form of the over-representation of the Māori and Pacific community in prison [and] the socio-economic disparity that is prevalent in those groups.”

      What about Indians and Northeast Asians? If these groups are not over-represented in the prison population, then those white supremacists must be somehow favoring them or (gasp!) be in league with them to oppress the Maori and Pacific community.

      How is my logic so far?

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    • I take it that with a name like Mazbou Q this person is a representative of one of the low IQ immigrant groups who has not figured out that the reason there are so many Maori an islanders in prison is because they commit so much of our crime and are too stupid to avoid getting caught.

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      • Actually they get so many chances that when they do get caught that final time that being sent to jail is probably a shock.

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  24. That’s brilliant, bring Chinese students in from the source country of Wuhu flu. //
    It’s all about the money and growing their own institutions.

    Educational institutions, alongside immigration and health authorities, are investigating measures to allow international students to safely return to Wellington next month, including the possibility of chartered aircraft.
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/charter-flights-under-consideration-international-students-returning-wellington?auto=6137286361001

    “The economic importance of international students is apparent, but they also bring important diversity to our learning environments by enriching the social and cultural life both within educational institutes and Wellington in general,” Mr Perks said.

    “When you add in the fact that many international students who graduate in Wellington choose to live and work here, it’s plain to see the importance of getting all our students back as they bring vibrancy and prosperity to the heart of Wellington.”

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    • These Universities infuriate me.
      They have morphed in to institutions that are led by lefties and are in the business of indoctrinating students rather than teaching them.Their primary purpose appears to be to make money and make the VC’s look good.
      At least Scomo is being careful with his comments on Aussie Uni’s and appears to suggest that they focus on Aussie students before letting in the masses again.
      I did hear Shane Jones say in Parliament last week that the Universities shouldn’t think they will continue as they used to.

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      • Do you think that they have not donated enough to NZF!
        I’m sure with enough koha it will be overcome!

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    • Tell the universities to piss off. There are no economic benefits in having foreign students
      here who are not interested in NZ or the Kiwi way of life. They travel here at their parents expense, socialise only with other foreign students, get their degrees or diplomas and then fuck off. They don’t give a shit about this country and neither do the woke wankers who run the universities.

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  25. There should be a moratorium on students from mainland China until after the demise of the Communist Party in China.

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    • Early this morning I mentioned about the infiltration of CCP in universities in a number of ways.
      https://ysb.co.nz/have-your-say-412/#comment-76724

      NZ has at least 3 Confucius Intstitutes in our Universities.

      Those Universities will not only be a future source of our politicians, but also throughout all our government bureaucracies, in many places of insidious influence.

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      • No wonder the universities and professors want to bring the CCP virus laden students in. They have been bought and paid for long ago!
        Are the Indian students the poor country cousins?

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  26. What happened to social distancing rules? Cindy had plenty to say about Stefan Molyneaux and co breaching health and safety when she supported their de-platforming from their speaking engagement in Auckland. Now what does she say about these protesters defying her social distancing rules????

    Thousands gather in Auckland for Black Lives Matter solidarity march

    New Zealand protesters will today join thousands of Americans in protesting the killing of Minneapolis man George Floyd in a protest starting from Aotea Square in central Auckland.
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/hundreds-turn-in-auckland-protest-killing-george-floyd

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    • There could be one positive out of this WG. If they do not find any positive tests in the next week or so then all those “experts” will have egg on their face.

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      • How many white supremacists will they be able to spot? Have they got Paddy Gower, the WS sniffer outer on the job. //

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      • Acually it bloody isn’t and since people keep saying it albeit sarcastically in the forums that I visit some lefties probably consider it to be positive affirmation.

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    • Blimey, I was well wrong on my turnout prediction, of more or less none. In my defense, it did stop raining.

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    • Probably not the best day to strut your MAGA hat, and “It’s OK to be White” tee shirt.

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  27. There have been reports and videos of pallets of bricks having been placed in riot areas. If the pallets were already there for construction work, they sure don’t seem to match the local paving or brickwork anywhere in the picture. Moreover, they are untidy-looking (like someone offloaded them in a hurry).
    Who would place pallets of bricks in a riot zone? If some time ago by local government contractors, surely the city would have called them to promptly remove any weaponizable construction materials from all jobsites. (The city can’t be that slack as not to have done so.)
    It will be interesting to review the CCTV cameras and see how and when the pallets of bricks turned up.

    Who would place piles of weapons at a riot site?

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  28. You’re correct David.

    David Seymour says Black Lives Matter protest ‘a slap in the face’ for businesses closed in lockdown
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/06/david-seymour-says-black-lives-matter-protest-a-slap-in-the-face-for-businesses-closed-in-lockdown.html

    “I’m the first to support freedom of expression and protest, and to oppose abuse of police power. But this gathering is a slap in the face for every business that has restricted their operations, lost money, and laid off staff to comply with the Government’s rules. Those rules must be removed now.”
    – David Seymour

    He said the Government should move to level 1 immediately as opposed to deciding on June 22 whether the move is safe.

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    • David Seymour should really hammer this point home (to differentiate the ACT offering from those of National and Labour).

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      • What difference will it actually make? Criticism is like water off a ducks back to Cindy but we might get to see her face twisted with hatred as she spits her answer. She has Trevor in the Speakers chair and Winston and Robbo in the front row to leap to her defence. 😕 The woman should tell her male colleagues to stand down from protecting her.

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    • We’re lucky to have such an effective and succinct leader of the opposition.

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  29. After thinking about the Queens gongs, I think it should be,,
    You don’t get anything for your day job, fuck off!
    If you go beyond to save people in need, yep you deserve one!
    Participation in sport, not on your nellie!
    Voluntary work, certainly, you desrve it!
    Paid Charity work, fuck off schiver!

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    • It always makes me laugh the left’s hypocrisy being against the royal family but all line up for their official Queens’ service gongs and slap each other on the back. 🙄

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  30. David a National MP dies and goes to Hell.

    The devil himself meets him surrounded by fire and lightning and offers to show the new bloke around the place. They pass sights that are so horrible that they have not even been seen on TV1, they hear sounds that would make mortals go insane with fear and they smell rotten and burning flesh everywhere.

    Eventually they arrive at a door marked Labour Caucus room and wails and the gnashing of teeth can be heard outside.”This is where you will spend the rest of eternity.” the devil smirks. David is obviously less than happy having to share all eternity with a bunch of Labour politicians, but says nothing and assumes that this is indeed hell. As David enters the room he notices that everyone is being force-fed lemonade with chardonay through straws; some people are lying face down over Swiss balls being buggered senseless by large men with masks on; everyone however is wearing a blue scarf.

    David slightly perturbed by the fact that no Labour MP’s seem to have gone to hell asks the prince of darkness “Why are there no Labour Politicians in hell?”

    “AAAHHH”, said the devil “We used to have them until we realised this was their idea of heaven!”

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  31. Cindy gives hugs and kindness and they expect even more. //

    Auckland Black Lives Matter protesters call for Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern to condemn George Floyd’s death
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/06/auckland-black-lives-matter-protesters-call-for-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-to-condemn-george-floyd-s-death.html

    “Jacinda Ardern, you must condemn the murder of George Floyd. You must call for the arrest of the three officers that were involved in that murder… The silence has been deafening.”

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  32. Winston Peters Twitter:
    “Protesters in Auckland showing that our team of 5 million are being let down by a small group who think they know better than everyone else. If the authorities allow this to occur then we should be at level 1 tomorrow.”

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    • Tucker is good value,
      Liz Wheeler is great as well. It is a shame that there are no decent
      journalists like these two in NZ.

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    • Thanks for that Alice.
      Loud and clear. .Sadly there are idiots in this country who would follow the commie bitch
      to hell. They could not bear to think she might actually hate them.

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