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  1. 10 years since Pike River mine exploded killing
    29 men. My condolences and thoughts are with
    the families today. I have met and talked to Sonya
    Rockhouse about the disaster, she is a lovely, genuine
    lady who only wants answers for her late son.
    I hope she gets the truth one day.

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      • We know the answers.

        Mining experts, employed by Pyke, knew the reasons, before it blew. They were warned about the gas problem from the concept stage and throughout the operation. By experts from around the world.

        All were ignored to keep the investors money flowing.

        The operation was all PR smoke and mirrors. Plus management were backed by the Labour Party.

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        • This rort is the opposite of john key, so of course labour were into it boots and all trying to find evidence of criminal acts!
          It’s a wonder they did not find that john key had snuck in the middle of the night and set dynamite jus to make the explosion bigger!
          To put the fox in charge of the hen house, I ask you!
          50 mil wasted by labour to achieve what?

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          • I just read a Pike river comment that-
            “Once the recovery team gets deeper they will find the evidence to put John Key and the rest of those those nasty Nats in jail”
            This is actually what is driving them! Some weird conspiracy theory that John Key was somehow responsible…

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          • Sooty@1216

            Re: ’50 mil wasted by labour to achieve what?’

            Election victory , Old Chap, election victory by showing that the NZLP ‘Really Cared’ about it’s citizens…’ and that the ‘herd’ had absolutely NO right to vote for anyone else but them – especially not for the nasty Nats who caused all the damage…

            The fact that a certain Little, A. was the union delegate with direct oversight of (and indeed active involvement in the mine and it’s management) , was, of course, not commented on…

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    • I am more concerned about the 115 people killed 10 weeks later in the CTV building.
      They were not covering gas sensors with plastic bags.
      CTV should not have been a dangerous environment
      Christchurch City council approved going back into the building (twice after Sep 4 and Dec 26)- and the build in the first place.
      Takes no responsibility (nor for allowing houses to be built on swamp; many just broke.)

      There were many foreign students who paid to be in the CTV building .
      They had a right to expect NZ to be first world without dodgy Councils .
      That was why they came.
      Many died.
      Many from China were the only child and they died.
      The compensation was about $40 k per person, ACC schedule rates plus funeral costs.

      The Pike River people (a quarter the number in the CTV building ) were being paid and knew the risks .
      AS MH points out below Pike River was a poor concept and high grade coal, high methane content mine.
      It should have been open cast.
      It was not.
      It was contributory. The managers, the workers, regulations, union et al.
      Own it.

      After 10 years I have no sympathy.
      For each dead person over one million dollars was paid by 2013.
      Compare to CTV victims.
      All avenues shut down on them.
      The cash has not stopped for the Pike people.
      I have no sympathy.
      I have no respect for those who go on about it .
      Mines explode.
      It is a sad thing.
      We dont expect 34 year old buildings to fall over.
      Well we did not then but after the Stats building in Wellington Nov 2016 we know this is now a ‘thing’ in NZ
      But no-one is responsible. No Sir.
      If people had been in the Stats building there would have been deaths.
      How many of these plywood residential high-rises being promoted by Agenda 2030ers are death traps?

      There was contributory negligence on many fronts at Pike.
      You cant turn back the clock.
      You cant change what happened yesterday or even 5 minutes ago.
      Superman (1978) was a movie set in a fantasy universe.

      If the CTV people who got a raw deal can move on, the Pike people can as well.

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      • Exactly howitis, as they keep herding lemmings and walruses over the cliff, for their control.

        Just like the inquiry about the fire at the Greenfell Tower apartment buildings, that is following “agenda 21/30”
        All in the timing of how it is done, and how to play the media, or is it pay the media?

        No matter that those firefighters were confronted by something during those dark hours that none of them had ever before witnessed, nor that the root causes of the fire lay in the years of deregulation by central government, cost-cutting by their counterparts in local government, and the drive for profit by private companies.
        No, it was almost certain that firefighters would become the immediate scapegoats. ….

        …… the failings of the real culprits would receive nothing like the exposure given to the actions of firefighters, and the narrative would remain fixed: firefighters were to blame, and that was that. ….
        https://unherd.com/thepost/the-real-crimes-of-grenfell-are-coming-out-and-the-media-is-silent/

        And so it will play out with censored manifestos, police gun licencing vetting etc, with the Christchurch shootings, so that white supremacists and gun owners can be shot-up.

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        • The post was getting long so I did not digress into Grenfell or the failed building at Sydney Olympic Park – Opal tower ..or Ofal Tower ?

          Grenfell ran a parallel to White Island last year and therefore probably to Pike.
          The pigs would not let rescuers into Pike after the explosion – when the gases were (spontaneously) evacuated.
          The pigs went ape shit on the White Is rescue helicopter pilots when they saved lives.
          R/soles.
          In Grenfell the people were told for over an hour to stay inside – a burning building.
          With that sort of bullshit and the covid lies people really need to think for themselves.
          The majority do not. Which is why media filth can mislead them so easily.

          https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-05/grenfell-residents-in-london-fire-wrongly-told-to-stay-inside/9833990
          ‘In fact, the guidance was not abandoned until 02:47am, [100 minutes after fire started] by which time the tower’s single staircase was filled with thick, toxic black smoke, according to evidence examined by Ms Lane.’

          I see ‘The Projects’ – just like a US inner city social housing complex in the USA- is being opened in New Lynn today.
          The Gorbals Mk II

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          • Howitis, like rust they never sleep, so they will burn up the apartments per BLM, and more disposable plastic tent cities will also pop up.

            The relentless march through all the institutions to remove reasoning, thinking via academics, education, media, politicians, and now particularly remove it from stem science.
            That pervasive taught, correct answers only, so no thinking is to be done.

            Not supposed to trade on a tragedy, but lives are at stake.

            Woollen carpets, woollen upholstery, woollen insulation, etc.. 🙂
            Biodegradable, compared to the plasitc hormonal nano particles that seem to end up in the deep oceans. 🙂
            So New Zealand is to be tree’d/trashed.

            The end justifies the means. The socialists, using greens, never weigh this up.
            Nor do they care about people.

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            • Tell me who was held responsible for the collapse of the tower?
              Why did the stairs collaspe?
              When they built a overhang the width of a laneway, was there enough strengthening in it, as it looked like that part of the building bent over the ground level wall!

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      • howitis@1251

        You forgot to mention the gweens and their lunatic’ save the snails’ protests. – a major factor in the decision to put a drive (tunnel) in rather than the preferred open cast. That said-hole was excessively long, had little in the way of escape mechanisms, and was created in an area well-known for its methane problems was, of course an irrelevance. The snails would be harmed and that was ALL that mattered.

        Notably, the protest organisers expresseed little or no sympathy for those affected by the disaster , and indeed some though it appropriate ‘justice’; to those who dared to try and exploit gaia (and the snails).

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        • And who gave consent for the underground mine to proceed..?
          The fucking government of the day should be held responsible
          and fucking Andrew Little who seems to have got away scot free.
          Move along, nothing to see here but we will make it as political as fuck because now that National are the government, lets just blame them !~

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      • A Welshman phoned Peter Williams this morning. His father and five brothers worked in the mines. Over 400 Welsh miners died in one of many Welsh mines explosions. He read out a miners ode. They all knew the risk.

        RIP

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  2. Pike River. Im not sure about this one. Some may say they could have been the authors of their own demise. Safety breaches, disconnecting gas alarms, bit of a cowboy attitude towards Health and Safety. Blame lies at the feet of those filthy greenies as well. It should have been an open cast mine from the get go. But all that aside..yes condolences to the families left behind.

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  3. I read there are people newly elected, or selected from a list, now objecting to taking the oath or making an affirmation of allegiance in Parliament.

    If they get seated in the house we pay each a salary plus costs for the term. I really do not have any interest post election in the explanations including one noting she does not wish to pledge allegiance to a system she intends to subvert.

    The answer is simple. If you choose not to take the oath or make an affirmation; go home now. You have wasted enough of our resources to this date. I am not interested in covering Parliamentary costs for you or your subversion.

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  11. On the front page of the Herald
    “Covid 19 coronavirus: Dick Brass – How to kill 250,000 Americans”
    Okay. A journalist might want to make that claim. It is an opinion piece after all, cut-and-pasted from an American legacy media outlet.

    But why a photo of the President of the United States underneath the headline?

    Would it not be more appropriate to place a photo of the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and Chairman of the Central Military Commission (CMC) Xi Jinping?

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  12. The day after my brother got married, he got up early and made breakfast in bed for his new wife – fresh orange juice, two perfectly fried eggs, bacon just right, hot toast with real butter, pork sausage and baked beans and a lovely cup of tea.
    When she’d finished everything, he asked how she’d liked it.
    “Absolutely perfect!” she said.
    He replied “Good. Now you know how I want you to make it every day from now on.”
    To which she replied, “So, did you enjoy last night?”
    He said he did.
    “Good, now you can go fuck yourself.”

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  14. Investors jump the gun

    Biden’s US election win drives up stocks in Kiwi clean energy companies
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2020/11/biden-s-us-election-win-drives-up-stocks-in-kiwi-clean-energy-companies.html

    Biden, who defeated incumbent Donald Trump earlier this month, has promised to reverse the US’ move back towards coal and fossil fuels.

    But as far as the markets are concerned, it’s his promise to invest US$400 billion into clean energy and technology – twice what the country spent to put a man on the moon, according to his website.

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  17. The point I feel is to make sure only legal votes are counted.

    Attorney files motion to halt Georgia’s election certification
    By Nyamekye Daniel | The Center Square Nov 18, 2020 Updated 5 hrs ago
    Election 2020 Georgia

    (The Center Square) – Georgia attorney Lin Wood asked an Atlanta judge Wednesday to stop the certification of the state’s election results.

    Wood filed an emergency motion for injunctive relief with U.S. District Court Northern District of Georgia to suspend the finalization of the results until his lawsuit against Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and the Georgia State Election Board can be heard.
    https://www.griffindailynews.com/news/state/attorney-files-motion-to-halt-georgias-election-certification/article_1dc55dca-3f7f-510f-b0a6-72a35e46f4c5.html
    The rest behind a paywall.

    Lin Wood @LLinWood
    Good morning.
    Last night, I filed an Emergency Motion for Injunctive Relief against GA Secretary of State.
    Relief sought includes an order prohibiting certification which includes defective absentee ballots & requiring that a hand recount be performed.
    https://twitter.com/LLinWood

    In other words, do it properly and make it a proper audit.

    The motion that was filed.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4f5gvx6oh9zskvf/2020-11-17%20TRO%20Motion%20with%20Exhibits.PDF?dl=0

    How will those State Judges rule on that,
    It will also shake up some of those RINO’s, with “Uni-party” agendas, that got into the trough there too.
    Any problems and ramifications will go on up to the Federal chain of Judges.

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    • In Georgia, Atlanta city a protest has arisen about just having a recount.

      Alex Jones Leads Protesters Into Georgia State Capital as Recount Continues
      https://youtu.be/BRZAk64OWjc
      1 min 9 secs : • Nov 18, 2020
      .
      No fan of Alex Jones, but sort of being an opposition, he is on point, for the moment. 🙂
      I figure it is a spark, a beginning of getting people to look at what went down in the election.

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  18. Harvard uni has just given amazeballs an award and a prize of 210k!
    Do you have to declare money from overseas and pay tax on it?
    I would say that she will have to as a mp and pecuniary interest rules. So she can’t just leave it sitting in a new york bank. Will she bring in her top tax rate before or after the transfer?

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    • I was listening to to someone on YT the other day and the question was asked how to inform those who are unaware of the plan to implement socialism, hate Trump, etc. The answer was people need to do their own research, so I’ve just sent Alice’s link to that rally to a Trump hating family member who believes those who attend Trump rallies are gun-toting violent haters.
      She has never heard of Antifa! When I asked her what she thinks about Biden she said he is a nice man! I’ve sent her a few links to start her own research to educate herself. 😝 One down, a million sheep to go…

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  20. Sure is optimistic for Trump, but he must have something, or he will be sued.
    Just like how he helped Nick Sandman the Covingon lad, that was maligned by the big names

    Earlier today Trump campaign attorney L. Lin Wood said: “Joe Biden and the People Like Him Who Have Been Trying to Steal This Election – Will All Go to Jail”

    Just radio.
    DEEP STATE WILL BE DEFEATED by Attorney L. Lin Wood with Howie Carr
    https://youtu.be/m2Bs2ovDjvw
    20 mins 16 secs : • Nov 18, 2020
    14: 48 is when that interview ends.
    Then back to normal radio, ads, & talk-back for the remainder.

    Based on what is legitimate, courts and legislature.
    lncreasingly more evidence is also building up to a point that many more people will be aware, and can not be swept under the carpet.
    Many will end up in jail.
    It will be difficult going through the process, but at the end, every one will know, and the mainstream will be exposed as supporting the systemic swamp.

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  21. The curse of “may you live in interesting times”

    …… China is not even pretending that it is not on the path of retribution. ……
    …. Beijing issued a blunt diktat to Canberra on November 18 in terms of what it must address to arrest the momentous downturn in Australia-China relations. ……
    …. “China is angry. If you make China the enemy, China will be the enemy,” ….
    .
    …. China’s infamous “wolf warrior diplomacy” comes amid Australian push back against Chinese interference and influence operations, beginning with new laws issued in 2018.
    Canberra’s April call for an investigation into the origin of the novel coronavirus, its ban on Chinese 5G infrastructure, as well as its increasingly visible and rejuvenated military partnerships with like-minded powers in the Indo-Pacific have all irked Beijing. …..
    ……. there is recent precedence for such kind of behavior from China’s wolf warriors.
    https://thediplomat.com/2020/11/in-an-on-brand-move-china-issues-diktat-to-australia/
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    So what side is NZ on?
    Can and does it remain neutral or not as Nania Mahuta tweets.
    .
    Aotearoa New Zealand 🇳🇿 has joined its close partners Australia 🇦🇺 Canada 🇨🇦 the UK 🇬🇧 and the USA 🇺🇸 to release a joint statement on the situation in Hong Kong and underlines our concern about recent events there.
    https://twitter.com/NanaiaMahuta/status/1329228268344541186?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
    .
    Is Mahuta being a patriot, or can skate around the edges with 2 degrees and Huawei then with 5g?
    .
    It will not take much to tip NZ over with the dairy products, and lamb & mutton being major exports to China.

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  22. I’m going from optimism and back to despair on the US election situation but here is something to help the optimism ( I hope !!).

    This is an article about the taking of the servers from Frankfurt.

    https://sonar21.com/unraveling-the-deep-state-coup/

    Make sure you read the comment by “Kermit”. He talks about a Cray supercomputer (decommissioned in 2014) which they called the “Kracken” . So it seems that Sidney Powell’s comment about releasing the Kracken was not aimed at Trump supporters, but to those behind the coup to tell them that Team Trump had the “goods” on them. Well, I hope that is right !!

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  25. Can it be true that Democrats had Mob links? May be not, but still what did happen?

    Trump lawyer, Sidney Powell, recently promised she would release the kraken.

    More and more eye witnesses to the election fraud are stepping forward.

    A Philadelphia gangster who was paid $3,000,000 to forge 300,000 ballots may step forward and turn against Biden in exchange for a clean slate.

    The Democratic Party teaming up with gangsters is just like how the Communist Party does things in China where they pay members of Triad to do their dirty deeds.

    Is Biden any better?

    Mob Boss flipped on Biden?; 1643 Trump Floyd County votes “forgotten” | Front Page
    https://youtu.be/GHWsi-EXCs0
    16 mins 08 secs : • Premiered [@ about 5:00 pm NZ time.]

    He sounds a note a caution about the mobster, too good to be true?
    It picks up the technical detail of the election system, and explains it quite well, and where some are over reaching in their claims.
    A good summation of the events, and the consequences, and so conviction for criminal acts may happen, leading to jail.

    Then here is where the people who notice things during the election have put things for greater followup.

    HERE IS THE EVIDENCE
    Due to the irregularity of this current 2020 Presidential Election, this is a crowdsourcing tool for organizing anomalies and legal issues.
    Our desire is that more of the election process would be made transparent so there would be unquestionable confidence in our voting systems.

    This is for aggregating publicly available items of evidence that would be admissible in court, not general election news stories or updates.

    Submitted items may be edited or deleted by moderators to ensure quality of content.
    https://hereistheevidence.com/

    It may be small numbers, and much is still to be verified, but it sure issues up a lot of smoke.
    As fire men know, when the right door is opened, their may be a lot of blow back, and show where the seat of the fire is. 🙂

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    • As mentioned, the way China uses the triads, as its unofficial enforcers.
      In Germany it was the “brown shirts” that aided and enforced to established an ideology.
      Still to be confirmed about the Mob used for the Democrat gains.

      How ever in New Zealand, we have had the start of another enforcer, that was ok with the police, department of health, and the Prime Minister, when they set up check-points and road-blocks. 🙁

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  26. My wife called me into the lounge to quickly watch something on the the TV1 news (I always avoid it) that was astounding her- I caught the tail end but it was quite something!
    The TV reporter at then site of the Pike River commemoration was putting on the worst acting performance we had ever seen- She was dramatically overcooking everything- voice shaking,pretending to be choking up with emotion and apparently only just holding back the tears! Honestly if you get a chance to watch it….
    I think even Mark Lundy was more convincing….

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  31. Just to keep up with the Yanks and their glitches in their voting software, it now seems there are glitches in the Tracer App. Another Liebour fuckup, they are swatting away. Not our fault it was done in a hurry cries Chippy.
    I predict that the few that bother using it will diminish rapidly.

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  32. As a technological Luddite I need some help.

    If we download an “app” onto our phones or whatever what are we actually getting & is there any way to confirm it? For instance the much lauded & doubtlessly bug ridden tracer app for Covid.

    Few under the age of thirty take anything governments say or do at face value so it would be hard to convince us to willingly accept a programme that allowed our phone to reveal our position & private contacts to the IRD, Health Dept or Police. But if the promised “life saving” app was installed couldn’t it be a Trojan Horse for another tracing programme that could be activated, say a year down the track?

    Genuinely interested if any techies have the time to respond.

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