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“Wakey wakey, hands off snakey?”
“Wakey Wakey. It’s time for eggs & bakey!”
Take your pick, I couldn’t find any for you lgbt’s out there so don’t go getting all hurty feelz on us this early in the morning.
When the stardust falls from her eyes HdPA can write quite a good article,
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12221755
a shame it only happens once or twice a year.
Here’s a portion of HDA’s article:
” The Government is about to stuff this up in a major way. They’ve decided the gun buy-back won’t include illegal guns.
That’s ridiculous.
Why would you buy guns back off legal owners, but not off the owners of illegal weapons? It makes no sense.
The last people in this country who actually want to hand over their weapons are those — like gangs and criminals — who hold them illegally. Isn’t it obvious that one of the few things that might entice them to hand in their weapons is the promise of easy cash?
If we’re not paying for the guns, what do we think will impel them to give up their guns? The goodness of their hearts? Their sense of common responsibility? Their respect for the law?
This stuff-up punishes law-abiding gun owners and gives a free pass to the worst kinds of gun users.
I’d put this down to money. The costs of the gun buy-back are already climbing. Initial estimates of $100 million have tripled.
Adding in illegal guns is probably an expense this Government can’t afford. Which means they’re cutting corners and not doing this properly.
It makes you wonder at this Government’s gun reform motives. Do they actually want to get all the military-style semi-automatic weapons off the streets? Or are they more interested in just collecting enough guns to fill a skip while TV cameras film the Prime Minister smiling next to the Police Minister and saying “look how well we’ve done” and “New Zealand is a safer place”.
It’s just politics, that’s all. This is how it works. Game playing, PR exercises, half jobs.
And now we know for next time, the hope lasts less than 30 days.”
“Why would you buy guns back off legal owners, but not off the owners of illegal weapons? It makes no sense.”
With a crim hugging prick like angry in charge, we can expect no less.
Would it not make more sense to buy back the illegal guns?
But JA was certain ALL of us are progressives now, and would throw freedom out the door out of sympathy! Make no mistake they are trying ram any new restriction they can in the wake of the shootings. Every single thing they do will backfire on them.
Pay market value for the guns, or forget people coming forward with them. I’ve been speaking to an ex-Police Officer I’ve know for years, and he said the locals are pissed off and “burying” their guns. Who would have thought lol!
The spectacle of a pile of guns being destroyed like they did in Aussie 20 years ago is something i could not bear to watch.
All that virtue signalling by large corporates pulling their advertising from FB, etc for “violent videos and speech”. After a month commercial reality has set in and they have all reactivated their advertising accounts with those nasty on-line platforms their customer base loves.
LOL.
Isn’t that ridiculous not to try and get illegal guns off the streets.
As NZ is a peaceful country, why does anybody need to have guns?
Know much about 20th century history? If you did you would have answered your own question.
Regardless, 250,000 people own over a million guns in NZ. (nice to know the cops have no idea of the actual number- let’em try and herd cats for JA this will be entertaining as hell!) Hunters, sports club shooters, farmers, collectors, etc have a lot of good reasons to own guns.
There is a major difference between need and want. Some people like farmers need to have guns, others, like sports shooters want to own guns. In a free and democratic society, which New Zealand isn’t, we should should be able to accomodate both needs and wants in this case.
Heard of possums, rabbits and other pests, petal? Or would you prefer we drown them, chop their heads off, incinerate alive, or any other method that ISIS has made popular in Syria…..
Oh no, how can you be so awful. I don’t think about things like that.
Figures
Well apparently we are under imminent threat.
Kim Jong-un is at it again. Two female soothsayers have been shot dead & a third imprisoned for life after a public show-trial in North Korea as the government cracks down on on ‘anti-socialist’ activity.
Though in his favour it must be said that clearly they weren’t very good fortune tellers.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6911347/North-Korea-two-female-fortune-tellers-shot-dead-public-execution.html
That’s what counts for fun in N Korea.
Ok so Andrew Little is outraged, outraged I say.
some enter[rising soul distributed a One Nation flyer around some letter boxes in Auckland. (Yeah it Auckland I know). One poor little shrinking violet decided that “Pamphlet ‘incites negative attitudes towards Māori’.
Well no its tells a bit of the truth as it should be.
But off she goes to some busy body TAXPAYER paid outfit that raises a fuss.
Andrew being of little mind in now outraged, yep outraged and in his eternal wisdom has decided that he needs to introduce tougher hate speech Law. Never mind about seeking the truth or saying it like it is, just stop anyone from being offended by some nefarious description, of what some call hate speech, Others, rightly just shrug and say “whatever,” that’s just your piss poor opinion.
Here’s what outrages me Andrew.
That you would act like the Gestapo in Germany before WW2 and restrict our freedom to converse, our freedom to meet and that you would spend against all good advice $40 million dollars on a failed mine to cover your own failings, that you and your Govt. would remove, overnight, the right of Kiwi’s to own property i.e. guns in an emotional bully boy tactic without proper and considered consultation.
But I’m sure that because you know so little of history (including our own, that you won’t even recognize what I am saying).
That you would coerce NZ First into supporting that. ( NZ First ,but not anymore it seems. Communism instead.)
That would would Steal from the Road Users of NZ the money that they pay for better roads and use it for purposes other than roading. The result of course is a forgone conclusion. More people dead. Not just in one lot.
That you and your Govt. would waste so much money that you can’t pay teachers, can’t buy medicines, can’t pay nurses , can’t pay Doctors, can’t (won’t), monitor what the public service is doing anymore.
That the Govt. you are part of would threaten the opposition as did Shaw the other day.
That your govt. would bow and scrape to an ideology that is will always be foreign to the basic tenets of NZ democracy.
In other words you are a disgrace to the Freedom and democracy that is NZ’s past and for which thousands of Kiwi’s fought and died for.
Not of course all those Labour Pacifists who now seek to destroy out Nation.
Remember that on Anzac Day.
A day now cancelled because you wish to restrict our freedoms.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12221767
One day, North Korea decides that they wish to invade New Zealand by destroying it from the inside. They decided to scrap the idea when they realised that there is an entire political party already trying to do that.
And no effective opposition. I will be saying as much to Simon Bridges at the Central North Island Conference. I expect a strong stand for free speech. I would like to vote for the best party, not the least bad party.
Good luck with that.
They have cloth ears to anything.
They capitulated on the gun Laws when they should have voted against them. Had they not done so, some of the NZ First and even a few Labour might have done so as well.
But because of the weak leadership we will never know.
National are busy consorting with NZ first behind the scenes.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rotorua-daily-post/video/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503430&gal_cid=1503430&gallery_id=205823
To be fair Viking, it sounds like National were trying to educate NZF MP’s by having the Rotorua fishing club explain their concerns to gain support against changes to the fresh water fishing laws. Still, I get your point about consorting with the enemy. It will all depend what is in it for Winnie.
Perhaps NZ First should have been true to their policies, National would just have looked divisive, when the law would have passed anyway, yes they could have virtue signalled but National had wanted changes to gun laws when they were government, I note there was no talk of cooperation then.
The trouble with the National Party currently is that it doesn’t seem to stand for anything. Where are the principles, purpose and action that should be under-pinning its vision?
We know what the Labour Party stands for: redistribution of income and resources, tax, tax, tax, and social engineering.
Meantime, National stands for…….?
Absolutely true.
All principles that National used to stand for such as personal responsibility, small government and the like have been traded for the national religion of diversity and multiculturalism and any other policy which is safe and will not ruffle any feathers in society.
Really sad to see how timid and voiceless they have become.
Well said. I do like Simon, he seems like a nice family guy, but National is doomed if they don’t stay well to the right of the Col Govt. So many missed opportunities to ridicule JA’s minstrels lost. They were clear targets….oh that;s right they don’t like guns anymore either.
Don’t forget National at least attempt to understand and support business. Grant Robertson before the election was pretending Labour wanted to work with business. All he is doing is rorting them for every tax dollar he can wring out of them, foisting unionism into the mx and hindering any growth. Get out of our way Grant and take your CGT with you, we have work to do! ?
National stand for being responsible for your own actions and outcomes. But you knew that, it was really a rhetorical question wasn’t it?
I could use some support on Tim Macindoe’s Facebook. I was at his public meeting with my son who is having guns taken by this communist lead government and National are complicit. I am not very concerned them doing the same and supporting hate speech laws.
Well said Viking. Here’s to freedom and liberty of the Kiwi way of life. We are not perfect but we are certainly not a hotbed of racism that “‘incites negative attitudes towards Māori’. ” The multitude of children born of Anglo/Maori heritage over the last 200 years is all the proof you need that ultimately we do get on, mostly!
Andrew Little can kiss my ass. That was nothing more but free speech in all its glory. It does not matter if you agree with it or not. Love to see Labour offended and bark at the moon. You ain’t taking free speech off NOBODY sucker.
Ah WG you are so naive. When push come to shove and with the chance of free money from the taxpayer, most would identify with their “maoriness” everytime.
Free money for their taonga of te reo and anything else they can wring a dollar out of. Why wouldn’t they when governments of all stripes insist on upholding their demand for apatheid. ?
The pattern now is quite clear post Christchurch.
Any discussion of issues involving sexuality, race, immigration, and other cherished groups will automatically be labelled hate speech and the full force of the mob will be unleashed on you.
Very sad to see NZ going this way.
One day, a lot of our politicians died suddenly. Their brains were still in perfect condition, so they were extracted, put in a special cryogenic chamber, and sold to rich people suffering from brain trauma and requiring transplants.
One rich man comes to the chamber requiring a brain transplant. The caretaker shows him Jimmy2mums brain, which is worth 50 thousand dollars.
He moves on to Simons brain, which is worth 1million. He is suitably impressed but decides to move on.
He arrives to Cindys brain. Surprisingly, it is the most expensive brain in the whole chamber, worth 5 million dollars! The man asked the caretaker, “why does it cost so much?”
The caretaker says, “It’s in perfect condition. Never been used before.”
Since just about everyone here is a refugee from Kiwiblog thought I might offer my thoughts on what has gone wrong from where I stand.
Moderation has had the effect of people self censoring their comments to get them past the moderators which has resulted in “safe” comments now being the norm where as “edgy” comments were the norm before and for me this is what attracted me.
I would compare the old KB to the sort of honest conversation you would hear in a pub or at a BBQ where as the new KB is more sanitised and tows the line.
I think what the current situation shows also is the inherent gulf between DPF and the bulk of his punters.
Liberal multiculturalism is the underlying beliefs of DPF where as the punters are fairly conservative and by and large not multiculturalists and Christchurch has bought this to a head.
Bland comments about Jacinda wearing the head scarf were removed because they did not show empathy but for alot of punters this gesture riled them because it represented oppression and subjugation.
I’m not sure this bridge can ever be mended properly now as some of the funniest commenters have left and I even saw Nostradamus bow out yesterday.
I am not completely leaving KB yet but the spark has gone and it will take another big change to right the ship.
Timely of Holysheet to have set this up, lots of people talked about it, but great that someone actually did it, one troll already, the rest will be along soon. perhaps someone would like to post the link on Whaleoil as they have on KB, is there anyone who hasn’t been banned?
Thanks for the endorsement and support. It will take time to get this right.
Interesting to note that we have many new members who have joined but are yet to post a comment. I guess they are seeing how it will pan out before they “Have Their Say”
Just a reminder that your first post goes into moderation. After that is approved it’s all on.
Just because someone has a different opinion to you, doesn’t make them a troll. Get over yourself.
Quite happy as I am thanks, clip clop, clip clop, or is that being mean?
Have made a couple of very pointed posts about this on KB. One this morning which has been passed and one last night on GD. No one feeling the luv for sure. Holly you should look for a select group of advertisers. Help pay your way. Pm me as I have something I might try.
Thanks Viking, but I deliberately made the decision not to have advertising. I don’t need it as this is more of a hobby. I am of an age were money is not a problem. My pension is paying for all the cost here, and the upcoming winter firewood payment will be put to good use shafting those who decided to waste taxpayers money.
Gave up on the firewood thing. But happy to use the payment for my heat pump. Don’t car what it costs so long as we don’t tun out of electricity. In fact I will be delighted if we have to use more coal and gas. Just cause it will piss of the nutters in the Green dept. Don’t you just luv to wind them up? We should string them up to a wind turbine and send the round and round and round.
Hey Viking, you’re in Tauranga. Any local information on when that horrible Hamilton Road/Cambridge Road intersection at Tauriko is going to have a roundabout or lights to make it work for drivers turning right from Cambridge Road into Hamilton Road? Surely, the current situation of relying on the courtesy of drivers turning into Cambridge Road choosing to stop to allow turning traffic to sneak through is no way for the NZTA to run a major intersection. There is simply too much traffic for it to work the way it is.
I would if I could.
He banned me for saying that his analysis was nonsense that NZ voting for UN resolution 2334 in regards to Israel was going to be a major election issue.
That’s what happens when you take free “tours” from foreign governments, you lose all sense of reality.
Great to have jokes. You know when I was a bit younger and cellphones etc didn’t exist, which ain’t that long ago, we all used to tell jokes. The workplaces and personal relationships were much more fun. Still di it when I see and can REMEMBER one. 😆
Maybe we should have a joke page!
You have. It’s called YSB.
A piss poor quality of troll if Fairydust. At least some of the KB trolls showed some with and intelligence.
The left don’t debate. They fling righteous indigation and virtue signalling slogans and then disappear until next time. They have no sound arguments to debate with.
No sound, but plenty of noise.
Allowing for my right of reply. FUCK OFF then if you are just going to behave like a spoilt uneducated 5 year old. We don’t need you here. Fairy dust is what you are. Simple in the head. I will call up our unicorns to escort you to the door.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi7_Matj87hAhUeS48KHdISBsEQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fm.mingle2.com%2Ftopic%2Fshow%2F336903%3Fpage%3D10&psig=AOvVaw1bLrk2aYW6laPqTy7tMGWZ&ust=1555280974951838
Glad to see that I am not the only one who can’t tiny url.
Oh, you do have a way with words!
I like it!
So glad to see you are not a troll lol.
At least it’s not your Standard.
Even if KB has gone to the pack.
I spend too much time on the internet, newspapers, WO, KB,Bob Jones, Kactus and here.
Would it be offensive to call someone else Sooty? Sweep should still be all good despite them both being glove puppets.
Lots of cold, wet days to fill in coming up Sooty. Got to feel less guilty spending time on blogs when it is miserable outside. ??
Yep. Please do tell us how successful and wonderful the Col Govt has been lol. Debate is good! Most come here to have fun taking the piss and simply enjoying the right to do so. Politicians who are buffoons deserve what they get.
And then there is this wanker.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/112024768/a-mother-took-her-child-to-mall-of-america–then-a-stranger-threw-him-from-a-balcony
A pig and a thug. He won’t be getting out of prison. Ever. Glad to hear the victim at least survived. He’d get home detention in NZ. Colonialism and all that…
A teenage boy walks into confession. “Forgive me father for I have sinned. I suck the penises of old men for money. One man wouldn’t pay me when I’d finished, so I pushed him to the ground, kicked him, and stole his watch. I’m afraid he may go to the police. What should I do?”
The priest thinks for a moment, before saying, “Just buy me a new watch and we’ll call it quits
Drive by shooting outside nightclub in Melbourne. Security guard shot in face.
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/prahran-melbourne-nightclub-shooting-australia-2-critical-after-shooting-outside-nightclub-2022767
Area looks pretty run down and the nightclub was called “The Love Machine” so probably not the most salubrious clientele I should imagine.
TAB odds:
Gang related$1.65
Drug Related $1.85
Vibrants $2.10
You’re on to it. I wonder what the trifecta is paying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6BJJe9JV_A
Would you care to describe your vibrants? lol Are they many coloured?
How about this for a police description:
“We are currently looking for a person of interest and they are a person of colour”
My wife got the following letter from the adult video store today.
Thank you for your order from our sex shop.
You asked for a large red vibrator as featured on our wall.
Please select another product, that is our fire extinguisher
Strict gun laws LOL.
Christchurch mosque shootings: Girls, women praise accused gunman, claim they love him in twisted Twitter video
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12222148
Wonder if the chief censor will get his panties in a twist and try to ban this one as well.
Not sure what it is about about serial killers and mass murderers which gets some chicks going, maybe it’s the bad boy thing or maybe it’s just that they see them as as tender loving family guys who are just a bit misunderstood?.
who gives a shit about what the censor thinks. It must be the mothering instinct coming to the fore in these stupid little girls. Mates of Cindy are they?
I’ve always assumed they are women of questionable personality and not able to find a man anywhere else. You’d have to have more than a few serious personality quirks to become infatuated with an incarcerated mass shooter/killer.
Enjoying your blog Holy just as I enjoyed your jokes on KB.
You are fillng a gap left when Keeping Stock closed down after the odious Hager attacked him.
Keep up the good work.
Half of us have alerts against our name?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12222308
Well nearly
I guess the number does not change, but the category for many would have made a major change to a more serious alert, after PM Ardern’s announcement.
Journalists, should check on how many criminal people are running around now, and then again in 6 months time. 🙂
Morning to all the workers of the world.
Have your say needs to get out of bed earlier Please.
It is an irony of some magnitude that the leading proponent of new hate speech laws in the New Zealand Parliament, Golriz Ghahraman, worked as an intern at the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR), defending Simon Bikindi who was convicted for inciting genocide.
It is doubly so when you take into account that the defence arguments almost entirely rested on his right to freedom of speech.
While I accept even the most heinous criminals are entitled to a robust defence – and that includes interns, I guess – at the very least I’d be curious to know if Ghahraman accepts the ICTR’s ultimate judgment, or harbours any regrets about the role she chose to play defending Bikindi, a folk singer who used his celebrity to encourage the extermination of Rwanda’s Tutsi minority, one million of whom were killed over 100 days of slaughter.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/africa/112001771/sizeable-irony-in-ghahraman-arguing-for-new-hate-speech-laws
Looks like a certain Green MP is no longer flavour of the Month with at least some of the Stuff ourno’s.
Like God pealing the gold leaves of the angels eyes!
More of this please, SLG needs the same treatment and fast.
Did we know that ethnicities that have 100 people in NZ are worthy of their own category in the census? Why such a low arbitrary number?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12222280
Well I hadn’t heard him, now he has my respect, the beat up seems to be because he is Christian.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12222331