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Brilliant Ed, that is so true. Its time that those offended at everything were laughed at.
Some karens complain;- “bullies”, “rogues” and “highwaymen”, beating on “magic talk”
MediaWorks has been fined $3000 for promoting negative Māori stereotypes when interviewing an iwi leader on Te Whānau-ā-Apanui’s Covid-19 roadblocks. ……
….. breached discrimination and denigration standards, amplified negative Māori stereotypes and had the potential to cause widespread harm. ……
Plunket hosts Magic Afternoons,… … “the free speech hotline for no-holds barred common sense talk that you control”.
…., Plunket questioned Rapihana on air about the legal basis for the roadblocks …… ….. and what the iwi intended to do if anybody refused to comply.
During the segment, Plunket called iwi “bullies”, “rogues” and “highwaymen”, questioned how many iwi members were on a benefit, and asked why, with no context, it didn’t focus on issues like child abuse.
The authority found these comments “amplified and reflected” casual racism against Māori.
It also found that Plunket’s continued insistence of the illegality of the roadblocks, despite police support, and “ridiculing” of Te Tiriti o Waitangi without giving Rapihana space to respond made the broadcast “more notable for Mr Plunket’s behaviour than a contribution towards informing the public”.
Following the interview, Plunket read out listeners’ feedback on-air, which further perpetuated racist perspectives. …… …
….. although there was legitimate public interest in iwi checkpoints, the broadcast was an inflammatory way to provoke discussion of the issues. ….
“We consider Mr Plunket’s tone, dismissiveness, repeated interruptions of Mr Rapihana and the comments he made following the interview were either intended to encourage harmful tropes and views or reflected ignorance at a level that is offensive and harmful to Māori,” it said.
“To conclude the interview, which disparaged iwi checkpoints and amounted to a persistent, deliberate, attack on Māori, by making light of the depopulation of Aboriginal people in Tasmania, aggravated the harm generated by the original comments.”
Rapihana said he did not know the two people who complained about the segment to the authority and was unaware there had been complaints ……. …
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/433430/mediaworks-fined-3000-over-iwi-interview-about-roadblocks
A form of censor ship control, to enforce thought control.
Was there supposed to have been a “karakia”? “powhiri”? “waiata”? “whakapapa”? to “balance” the broad cast also?
Plunket and Media Works should challenge this in court.
I will chip in a few bucks to help with costs.
Concratultions. Well done Shaun Plunkett!
They got all hurty feelings and went crying.
Now you watch they will more money!
This is one of the most chilling things I have read in months. The Marxists have been wanting to clamp down on free speech for ages and now it has actually started to be a reality.
I heard this interview on radio and a lot of the discussion around those illegal roadblocks and at no time did Sean Plunkett advocate any violence towards any Maoris: all he did was to (rightfully) point out their illegality and their standover, threatening, bully-boy tactics. And for not showing the right degree of respect for these animals he gets censured and fined!
This is the beginning of the end. Magic Talk has already effectively fired Peter Williams for speaking sense by shunting him off to drivel about ‘cricket’ for hours, and now we can expect Sean Plunkett to magically disappear off the airwaves.
BREAKING: Poland Threatens $2.2 Million Fines For Social Media Companies Who Censor Lawful Speech https://zerohedge.com/geopolitical/polish-bill-threatens-22-million-fines-social-media-companies-who-censor-lawful-speech
3:23 AM · Dec 22, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
This shows you how hard up Lucy Warhurst and Three News are for story’s .
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyle/2020/12/study-finds-eating-healthy-people-s-poo-can-reduce-symptoms-leading-to-heart-attacks-and-type-2-diabetes.html.
Mind you they reckon those that ate dirt and other substances when younger didnt get sick that often and anti biotics weren’t available in them days .
Study has been ongoing for some time.
Not to be disparaged at all.
Its about changing the gut flora in obese people and evidence is that it works and can save the taxpayer billions of dollars by treating obese people.
They key to this is finding and cultivating the right bacteria.
No more expensive tummy tucks etc.
Has to be good for everyone.
The key is not to be a glutton.
Energy in vrs energy out.
Not always.
Its about the energy derived value. i.e. you put so much energy in and depending on the processing then you can vary the outcomes. It is also dependent on the use of that energy and the liver which changes that energy into useful form. Then of course there is the genetic component i.e. are you energetic or lazy.
I know people who eat like gluttons. skinny as rats.
“A busy rooster never fattens”
What’s the protocol for asking a healthy-looking bloke for a knob of his best?
Give Grant or Cindy a ring, they’re experts in the field. He pushes it and she speaks it.
HaHa..that’s a good one!
Happychappy… if this eating poo story is true, gay men should be really healthy. /sarc
Gives them a high pitch, squealy, whiney voice!
Some ex pollies are very wise.
this From Richard Preeble.
Interesting read. Not that cindy or any of the swamp dwellers will ever do anything about this.
The Nats. don’t even know the rules They don’t deserve to be voted for..
Mallard cannot have it both ways. If he was speaking as Speaker he is covered by parliamentary privilege. If he was speaking as a minister then he is covered by the ministerial indemnity.
As Speaker there is no convention of accepting blame and resigning but there is no entitlement to taxpayer assistance.
The convention of ministerial responsibility does exist. Ministers Curran, Clark and Lees-Galloway took responsibility for their less blameworthy actions and resigned.
By accepting the taxpayers’ money, Trevor Mallard has to also accept ministerial responsibility for his actions and resign.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/richard-prebble-trevor-mallard-and-mps-new-license-to-slander/WKJZBNSZP34BXEBCOBSKZB5HGM/
And today’s stinking lie from Cindy is:
“Dismiss anything else you hear, if it’s not on the government website. We will continue to be your single source of truth when it comes to #Covid19 ” You can trust us.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1341356096498241539
“For such a small country to have a PM in the public eye as much as she is, it’s just a dead giveaway she’s a wrong ‘un, promoted way above her actual ability level other than being a globalist agenda nazi”
Trust this government, never!
I will do the opposite, seems to workout better!
She first used that horrible ‘Let me be your one source of truth’ line when there were rumours circulating of an impending lockdown.
She was trying to dispel them.
Within a week the entire nation was plunged into lockdown.
That alone should have seen her sacked/resign in disgrace.
I have never seen such a vile, repulsive liar in my lifetime…
I think that is commonly called Bull shit Alice, Trust the government…. NEVER
Sir Winston Churchill.
When he was disturbed from his “thinking time in the throne” by a call from Lord Privy Seal, Churchill easily responded with “Tell him I can only deal with one s*** at a time”.
“I am ready to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter.”
“Show me a young Conservative and I’ll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I’ll show you someone with no brains.”
“Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.”
“Saving is a very fine thing. Especially when your parents have done it for you.“
“A sheep in sheep’s clothing.” (On Clement Atlee)
“Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.”
“When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber.”
“There are two things that are more difficult than making an after-dinner speech: climbing a wall which is leaning toward you and kissing a girl who is leaning away from you.”
“A prisoner of war is a man who tries to kill you and fails, then asks you not to kill him.”
“A lady came up to me one day and said ‘Sir! You are drunk,’ to which I replied ‘I am drunk today madam, and tomorrow I shall be sober but you will still be ugly.”
“We can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all the other possibilities.”
Lady Astor: “Mr Churchill, if I were your wife I’d put poison in your coffee.”
Winston Churchill: “And if I were your husband I’d drink it.”
“History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.”
“I am easily satisfied with the very best.”
“Personally, I’m always ready to learn, although I do not always like being taught.“
“We (The British) have not journeyed across the centuries, across the oceans, across the mountains, across the prairies, because we are made of sugar candy.”
“A politician needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn’t happen.”
“Don’t interrupt me while I’m interrupting.”
I have never developed indigestion from eating my words.”
“If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.”
“He has all of the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire.”
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.”
“Although always prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it should be postponed.”
A young man after seeing Churchill leave the bathroom without washing his hands: “At Eton they taught us to wash our hands after using the toilet.” Churchill: “At Harrow they taught us not to piss on our hands.”
Brilliant. They don’t make ’em like they used to!!! 😃
Yes, …. Winston, never perfect, made some major mistakes, misunderstood things, had some flaws, but undoubtedly just got on with life to live it to the full, and understood principles, so stepped up, having experienced life, not only as a “dreamer” but the hard knocks, to be a realist.
All at our bloody expense!
No Sooty, the above referring to the real Winston (Churchill) not the cheap NZ charlatan knockoff. 😃
Thanks wg.
Winston Churchill.
“[I object] on principle to doing by legislation what properly belongs to charity.”
https://winstonchurchill.org/
Yep, somehow my coment got in the wrong place!
I hear he was most famous for being the last white person to be called Winston.
Winston Churchill is villainized and demonised now to the extent that quoting Churchill or even putting his pic up on FB or Twitter can see you banned.
It is a VERY strange world that we live in now…
*Gandhi is still ‘amazeballs’ though- And he had way,waay creepier ‘character flaws’ than Churchill…
What did you miss while the MSM were trying to distract you
Yes this is an incredibly important time for the NWO globalists and they have been mounting a massive campaign to distract us all from some terribly negative (for them) developments, so what have you missed while you’ve been forced to go on an orgy of spending, worrying about a Super Covid strain (that there is only the same made up nonsensical “modelling” from Imperial College to support)?
Well there’s been this:
– WikiLeaks have done a massive dump – perhaps signalling that a pardon for Assange is guaranteed now (I looked in the Clinton emails section and found some interesting stuff like dirt on NZers who were favoured by the corrupt NZF-led 2017 government, FBI advisory on pedophole symbols – why is Streets ice cream corporate logo a pedophile logo signalling abuse of minors? the Tama Iti search warrant etc along with masses of stuff on scientology and the Mormons) (whoever it was that recommended the Bill Still reports thank you)
– Predictions Biden will concede before Xmas again well covered by the Still Report on YouTube. Apparently Trump now has the goods and will drop a massive declassification bomb that will create a Scorched Earth on the NWO puppets unless Biden withdraws due to irregularities (cynical me believes this is too hopeful – I still think the Swamp will triumph)
– Even more news about the dangers of the Covid vaccine I mean rushed approvals, immunity from liability – what could go wrong? Medical workers in a Chicago hospital – 40% are going to refuse to have the vaccine! I guess the death of Tiffany Dover made a bunch of them think about their life choices
This state-funded media propaganda thing is pretty damn effective eh?
Baaa!
DP
Yesterday you made a comment about Farrar being a RINO, which I agree with. In the comment you had this :
“– any false flag attacks
– obvious voter fraud in NZ
– gun control
– murdering babies (aka abortion)
– Covid fear porn ”
Have I missed something with the “obvious voter fraud in NZ” ? Not doubting you just very interested.
Well, prior to Oct 2017 it was generally agreed that over 50% in an MMP election was just a pipedream, it’s not real.
But then NZ was subjected to a mass of push polling to condition us that Labour were well over 50% (just like happened in the US when the US voter was deluged in the impossibility of a Trump win), then in NZ bizarre things happened like eternally blue states turning red against all logic (like when Biden magically surged over night in the most corrupt DNC run cities in. No one in the MSM raised any questions at all about the unprecedented nature of it all. No one queried why the National vote was so much lower than expected. No one queried how the Greens magically surged, when everyone expected them to fail and fall out of Parliament. Just like the US MSM just lapped it all up.
The similarities between the weirdness in the US result (that we now know was mass fraud) and the weirdness of the NZ result are staggering. Up and down the country there were reports of how extremely hard working actively campaigning National candidates lost to Labour MPs who never even bothered to campaign at all (just like Biden didn’t campaign). We now know of course that Biden knew he had no need to campaign as the fix was on the way. One has to wonder what those non-campaigning Labour candidates knew that allowed them to do nothing at all and sweep to miraculous victories.
The nail in the coffin for me was when Farrar did that “ironic” post about the inconsistencies in the NZ election. It was almost like it was written to make a joke of anyone that pointed out those problems – it’s exactly what a “controlled opposition” operative would do.
And now, now that it’s clear that much was stinking about the US election, where is the checking up on our system to make sure that we’re not vulnerable the same way the US system was? Did our govt infrastructure experience a massive cyber hack the way the US one did? Does the electoral commission use Dominion voting systems? Are our votes also tallied overseas on foreign servers in Barcelona and Frankfurt? Are our national results added up as inaccurately as the US ones were?
Nothing like golden silence and high levels of absolutely no related questions at all to confirm ones theories.
NZ has long been used as a test site for many things – why not for massive electoral fraud by the NWO deep state?
Cannot argue with much of that DP. I particularly agree with your comment about the Greens. Also I would add I thought the cannabis referendum count of special votes looked very suspect to me. I did not buy those figures.
I know someone did a FOI request to the Electoral Commission asking about tabulating machines and software and the reply was it was all hand counting as per the Act of 1992(?) but then we learn that Auckland City Council were evaluating machines and software and had got it down to two, being Sctyl and Dominion. Why would local body elections have tabulating machines but nationally they are not used. Something does not smell right about this.
But I do not know how we would find out the real facts.
Kea, If you are reading this I would love read your view on the issue, given you seem to be closer to the Wellington bureaucracy / swamp than any of us.
Posters of ‘revered’ Mohammed displayed all over new QT mosque not appreciated!! If someone put up posters of Jesus on a church it would be rejoiced. We live in a strange old world!
Queenstown Mayor Jim Boult horrified by attack on brand new mosque
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/12/queenstown-mayor-jim-boult-horrified-by-attack-on-brand-new-mosque.html
Jim Boult. Another ” look at me ” wank stain.
These imports have to learn the golden rule.
FI or FO.
If I landed in oh I dont know, Saudi Arabia, and decided to erect a church in the middle of the town, what do you think would happen?
We are far too docile and far too accommodating here in aoteeeearoa.
Ain’t they better to put a mosque in the industrial part of town rather than in the burbs. Unless they are going to devalue local houses and take over the burb!
“Assimilation is tantamount to a crime against humanity,”
Erdogan Prime Minister then, President of Turkey now.
https://www.dw.com/en/german-chancellor-rejects-turkish-view-on-integration/a-3121091
“our number one and top priority is to protect and defend our community.
It is not to assimilate and to please any other people in authority.”
Linda Sarsour.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/340905-muslim-activist-urges-community-to-be-perpetually-outraged
“Sarsour elaborated on her views that the hijab is a spiritual act”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Sarsour
“Islam is right about woman”
The authoritative “hate thought enforcer” is on the case.
More others will also pack on, to be seen to be doing something, waving their meritless inclusive diversity “virtual signals”
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[Race Relations Commissioner Meng Foon]
He said an example needed to be made of people who committed such acts.
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“We are very supportive of separate hate crime legislation and we hope the government puts that through quickly in the new year,” he said.
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“We are pleased police are collecting hate crime data now as well so that will strengthen the punishments for the people that continue to spread messages of hate.”
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/433499/racism-is-well-and-alive-in-new-zealand-race-relations-commissioner
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This is not even about race, but throw some culturalism around & call it so.
In both cases it is about a political ideology, that hides behind the mask of religiosity.
Trying to blur it into racism, but the maori is all about others to become subservient with its culture imposing powhiri, karakaea, te reo, whakapapa, mauri, waiata, whilst demanding mana, to submit your life force to.
Little do they realize that islam does not agree to integration or this inclusive diversity, unless islam can reign supreme.!
Islam will do all it can not to integrate, so that it can carry out the guidelines, actions, sayings of Mohammad.
Stop wasting our taxes – US
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF71ulB2b0I
WuFlu Stimulus Sends Billions To Asia & $600.00 To Americans
Salty Cracker
China has bought up around 30 million acres of arable land in the US alone.
They have severely poisoned/polluted their own bread basket and some say, the three gorge dam is on the verge of collapse.
China are the highest producers of rice in the world, yet, they still can’t produce enough to feed their own people.
Many believe the massive worldwide land grab by the Chinese (including here) is to counter this.
Lin Wood posted a a pretty dark document, showing the warning signs indicating Chicom intentions for the USA and Aussie.
https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1341213298256130049
“China has bought up around 30 million acres of arable land in the US alone.”
And the US sold it to them….!
The globalist scum aren’t even hiding it. 2016.
Does capitalism need some Marxism to survive the Fourth Industrial Revolution?
“Summer Davos” returns to Tianjin China next week with an almost apocalyptic feel as attending leaders and technology pioneers debate what life will look like following the robot-driven Fourth Industrial Revolution.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/06/could-capitalism-need-some-marxism-to-survive-the-4th-industrial-revolution/
Ian Lyne is exposing Adern for what she is.
Some of the comments:
“She’s a total nutter. Totally unhinged.”
“Fucking disgusting.”
“Hate that guy…”
“Jacinda is a #devilwoman”
https://twitter.com/lyne_ian/status/1341387185447059457
I saw somewhere the CCP Vacine, won’t be here till second half of 2021!
That’s going to frighten karen!
That is just as well. Watch this NOW and send the link to anyone you care about:
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/urgent-news-about-the-covid-19-vaccine_botqwzI8R7UUVY2.html
Another look at Team Soros’ objective :
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/george-soros-follower-lord-mallach-brown-believes-global-economy-needs-global-institutions-govern-hate-president-trump-need-gone/
From Soros’ new leading guy Mark Malloch-Brown
“In The Unfinished Global Revolution, former United Nations deputy secretary general Mark Malloch- Brown diagnoses the central global predicament of the twenty-first century-as we have become more integrated, we have also become less governed. National governments are no longer equipped to address complex global issues, from climate change to poverty, and international organizations have not yet been empowered to step into the breach.”
Bitch Birx Begone.
Dr. Birx says she will retire after ‘overwhelming’ holiday travel scandal
The infectious disease expert, 64, was outed on Sunday for not following her own travel guidance when she was joined by three different generations of family at one of her vacation properties on Fenwick Island in Delaware the day after Thanksgiving.
She was roundly criticized for not following her own orders after publicly urging Americans in the days leading up to Thanksgiving to limit gatherings to “your immediate household.”
https://nypost.com/2020/12/22/dr-deborah-birx-to-retire-after-holiday-travel-scandal/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow
The Jan 6th rally Trump has called for is gaining some real momentum.
All sorts of people are offering financial support, for people / patriots who want to be there.
It could possibly be the biggest gathering we have ever seen in the US.
MAGA.
Lets hope Pence can hold his nerve, and follow through with this.
https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1341440253308116994
If Mike Pence holds his nerve and does the right thing in the coming days I suspect he will be rewarded with the Presidency in 2024 if he wants it.
Just a dispensary for misery.
Justice Department sues Walmart, alleging it helped fuel the opioid crisis
The Justice Department on Tuesday announced it is suing Walmart, accusing the company of helping to fuel the U.S. opioid crisis by unlawfully distributing controlled substances at its pharmacies around the country.
The department’s lawsuit alleges that for years, Walmart’s pharmacies unlawfully filled thousands of prescriptions for opioids without required care and investigation, including prescriptions pharmacists knew were suspect.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/justice-department-sues-walmart-alleging-helped-fuel-opioid/story?id=74865087
Israel Faces Fourth Election in Two Years After Parliament Is Dissolved
Disagreements over a budget law bring an end to a short-lived unity government led by Benjamin Netanyahu
https://www.wsj.com/articles/israel-faces-fourth-election-in-two-years-after-parliament-is-dissolved-11608674809
……”Israel Faces Fourth Election in Two Years After Parliament Is Dissolved”……
They get all the luck. Imagine how similar to paradise Godzone could be without meddling, know-all ideologues forcing their unwanted policy & crap laws onto us for four glorious years.
Irony is, the US just gave them half a billion to sort their shit out.
“When your country’s COVID-19 relief bill includes $10 million in “gender programs” for Pakistan, you know Congress is broken.” (Twitter post)
$10,000,000 would fund a lot of FGM
Wish we could!
Toko, one million of that will make it to the rape capital of the World (Pakistan) the rest will be divided amongst needy Congress democrats .
Yeeeeessss. More globalist despot avenues being taking down.
Popcorn anyone?
I bet there’s some pretty imcriminating evidence of wordwide election tampering to be found, along with the usual globalist bribery and extortion transactions.
50 servers siezed.
CYBERCRIMINALS’ FAVOURITE VPN TAKEN DOWN IN GLOBAL ACTION
Law enforcement wiretapped the very service used by criminals to evade interception
The virtual private network (VPN) Safe-Inet used by the world’s foremost cybercriminals has been taken down yesterday in a coordinated law enforcement action led by the German Reutlingen Police Headquarters together with Europol and law enforcement agencies from around the world.
The Safe-Inet service was shut down and its infrastructure seized in Germany, the Netherlands, Switzerland, France and the United States. The servers were taken down, and a splash page prepared by Europol was put up online after the domain seizures. This coordinated takedown was carried out in the framework of the European Multidisciplinary Platform Against Criminal Threats (EMPACT).
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/cybercriminals%E2%80%99-favourite-vpn-taken-down-in-global-action
As much as I dislike Cindy for her politics, credit where credit is due. She has donned the Hosk’s Xmas present, which is a mask with the Hosk’s face all over it.
Trigger alert: you’ve been warned.
Downtick at will! LOL
Face off: Jacinda Ardern follows through with Christmas promise
Jesus Christ!
Did we really need the freaking close up? ?
Mate, you were warned.
I just showed my wife.
She said “Christ that’s like something from a bloody horror movie!”
I had to laugh- Pretty much sums up this entire Labour Government and their reign of terror…
“I just showed my wife.”
Now that is real domestic violence. I’m on her side for this one.
What Hosking meant by the mask was “sit on my face” HOE!
Who looks at the maori writing in stuffed or the ferald?
Not me, straight over it! No thank you!
Who reads stuffed for that matter.
I get more information off the toilet roll wrapper.
Sooty, sorry mate “Maori Writing” is cultural appropriation !00%, We are talking of a race of people that were so busy killing off the magnificent Moa, taking sexual slaves during murderous raids, boiling and shrinking their own tribal members heads to sell to whalers and sealers to even bother inventing the wheel .
Many great waka were lost because there weren’t enough warriors to carry them to safety when an approaching storm threatened to smash them to pieces , and did . .but fear not our children are about to be taught History from Maori perspectives “the noble savage” and the filthy Whitey, that’s not hate speech that is a fact..
Great waka distroyed by storms, because they didn’t have enough warriors!
They were never going to carry no bloody great tree, even if it was hollowed out and waterlogged. Not going to put it on their shoulders. Could always
screw on some handles to hang on to! Inventing the wheel might have helped or even log rollers!
Up in the Far North they’ve given up on the stone axe & the mighty totara.
The ones I’ve seen are made from the evil colonialists’ fibreglass & include outriggers for training wheels. 🙂
Sooty@1735
Hongi Hika was apparently at least aware of the exiestence of rollers and apparently used these devices to transport his war canoes along the trail now known as ‘Hongi’s Track’ when he undertook a surprise raid against Arawa in 1823. Whether he ‘invented’ the use of rollers for the purpose (Maori having no prior knowledge of such devices) or if he was told about them by some anonymous European is not known, although that would seem to have been a distinct possibility.
For the first settlers to turn up here, half dead, in a hollow log, then flourish, they must have been tough and smart.
Early Maori were solid people.
Consider this. The Great Migration to NZ was made by a seafaring people with amazing navigational skills. They made the journey using sails. With them they brought kumara & the knowledge to grow them.
The people Cook discovered couldn’t return to their homelands because they had lost all navigational skills. They paddled everywhere because they lost the art & knowledge of sailing. They chewed fernroot because most tribes had lost the kumara tuber & the knowledge of how to grow it.
They had hunted the moa into extinction & were in a state of constant warfare with other tribes over shrinking resources the land had provided. They had burned off a full third of the indigenous forest. The warrior was revered at the expense of thinkers & innovators.
Without the white man’s inventions & domestic animals the last Maori would have starved to death, sitting in a cave wrapped in rotting seal skins within the next century. They were a perfect example of devolution.
They & their modern counterparts are intelligent & many are capable of anything they want to do. It’s just that I am inclined to dry retch when I hear the crap about the “noble savage” & the dire effects of colonialisation.
It’s a load of shit.
They were not noble. That’s not even a survival trait.
They were opportunistic, resourceful, smart, and tough as nails.
Countless written reports, on the Natives, confirm this.
Footnote:
Early Maori warned about the weak, lazy, diminished , Maori people we see today.
150 years ago they warned of drink, tobacco, special pleading, handouts and all we see before us now. They tried to stop it.
They would be heartbroken and angry to see the current state of affairs.
The great Maori leader Sir Apirana Ngata (1874-1950) warned of the dangers that social welfare would bring to Maori. As a people they are too intelligent to work when sitting on their arses & whining in unison will produce the same result. Yet many are too dumb to see the cumulative effect of idleness & lethargy on their people as a whole.
“Grow up and seek your destiny and stretch forth your hands for the tools of the western world to sustain you.Turn your heart to the treasures of your ancestors, your plumage, *and place your spirit unto God to whom all things belong”
.Sir Apirana Ngata Pōtaka School 1950
* your correspondent begs to differ on this part of his advice.
My primary school was up north. Awarua Maori School. We were taught all things Maori from day one including the language. I was fluent in Maori by the age of 7. We had a family of Maori farm workers and I spent more time with them than my own family. They used to take me to school on Clydsdale horses that were bred for the station work.
It’s a shame that I have forgotten most of what I had learnt 60 years ago, but lack of use will do that.
One of my best memories was when the old kuia used to get the takakau out of the old wood burning stove and feed me with lashings of butter.
The first settlers here were Celts weren’t they? One day when I get more time, I’m going to do some research on this. Might even snoop round the forest up North.
You may want to base your itinerary around this saggy: https://www.elocal.co.nz/Articles/elocal-Digital-Edition/2107
A few years ago I & a few others squared off on Moablog against a Doctor of Something who’s “the greatest world expert on everything including Polynesian history who has ever lived”. He disagreed & rubbished everything in the above link. The basis of his authority boiled down to “a Maori once told me”.
He was full of shit & his name escapes me but ignoring everything he’s ever said would help you immensely..
Scott Hamilton?
That’s him!
Your description of him is accurate imo.
Thanks Nasska.
There’s a two-part doco on youtube: Skeletons in the Cupboard
Haven’t checked it out yet.
Also a book “Ancient Celtic New Zealand”.
Plenty of material out there. Be an interesting project.
Personally, I urge you to weigh your research heavily against “oral history”. Anyone who has ever played the children’s party game of “Chinese whispers” should realise the incredible distortions & untruths that an uncritical acceptance of lore without written backup can produce.
There are a number of other books on the topic. A guy by the name of Noel Hilliam who at one stage was the curator of the Dargaville museum had a lot of information. From memory he may have co-authored a book.
Unfortunately Noel died a year or two ago.
That the one nasska.
Martin Doutre’s book.
https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Celtic-Zealand-Martin-Doutre/dp/0473053675
I have a copy of that, but will have to chase who I have lent it to.
Just to follow the positioning of stones, and ridge lines and how things line up, could make an interesting pilgrimage. 🙂
A good enough reason to travel around & take in the sites, with out owing any thing to a fish tail of the north.
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Some how weigh up this nonsense of a sentence, where no one died, and it seems no was injured.
24 year sentence. Allan Titford.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/228321/farmer-jailed-24-years-for-rape-and-arson
Then his appeal last year.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/northland-farmer-allan-titford-loses-bid-to-appeal-conviction-and-24-year-sentence/K6FNY6SQURUXCYV5HFBPNPVKMM/
I have read other things, the children’s affidavits after the trial, etc. and so why the judges have stuck at this sentence, seems to be way over the top. Why?
https://treatygate.wordpress.com/2014/04/02/deathbed-confession-sue-titfords-dad-torched-maunganui-bluff-home-sue-kids-police-and-allans-legal-aid-lawyer-knew-allan-was-innocent-but-let-the-court-convict-him/
It is like Allan Titford is embargoed.
It all does not make senses, just like the lining up of the stones, leads to another path.
I have the book, 24 Years The trials of Allan Titford. by Mike Butler
Hard to put down once you start reading.
Available at Tross publishing.
I drove through the Waipoua Forest last month. I will be going back to have a long walk through the bush in search for the proof. Maybe we could combine our resources and do it properly.
If the facts hadn’t resulted in a 75 year embargo, restricted until 2063 I probably would have forgotten all about what I read at the time.
But as we know from instances such as the cover-up behind the embargoed release of info behind the Christchurch mosques attack suppressed for thirty years, where there’s smoke there’s fire.
Public pressure should make the suppression hurt the suppressors more than the revealed truth.
Yes I’d heard of the embargo. You don’t embargo something that doesn’t exist.
The last I heard the locals won’t let you anywhere near the stone huts.
That was a few years ago though.
how would they know we were there?
It’s a big bush.
Jungle tom toms?
There’s a whole industry dependant on none of this being true. It’s not surprising the locals aren’t running tours!
Have a gander at this. year 300 BC there were people in NZ.
https://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/item/b2115abe-f93c-4c57-98b0-6da961dad4bb?fbclid=IwAR1Z27ZKFZ4XfjTfqsCh_1TFd77MciNYTh7VBpGAZVtSUBgGHMb7xx_ugos
Thanks V2. Very interesting.
The guy Hindmarsh related a story on Magic I think Sunday night.
It was about Jackie Guard who was one of the first whiteys in the South Island.
It was truly amazing stuff and certainly exposed how early Maori were brutal savages.
Guard set up a whaling station in the sounds and the family had a reunion recently where over two hundred attended. It was a fascinating story .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqHTjiIXorU
Lou Dobbs Tonight
“No matter how much people on the left talk about compassion, they have no compassion for the taxpayers.”
Thomas Sowell
This guy Lin Wood is really throwing big chunks of wood on the fire…..I think I like him.
Go you good thing!
“We are definitely over the target.
Retraction demands & preservation of evidence demands flying fast & furious from Tom Clare of @ClareLockeLLP for Dominion.”
I learned a few months ago that Tom & his wife, @libbylocke had been hired by Bill Gates.
Connect the dots. I have.
https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1341570019566768129
Critical threat list:
1. Ardernism.
Non critical threats:
1. Maori
2. Chinese
3. Muslims
4. Russians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWwNJZhcrww
Millionaire makes shocking claim after Trump meeting; State Reps call on senators to reject electors
Miners have reached the Roscil Plug, near the end of the drift, in the Pike River mine.
It is the Pike River Recovery Agency’s final milestone for the year and was reached last night, 349 days after dismantling the 170m barrier.
On November 19, 2010, an explosion at the mine was reported about 3.44pm. Only two people walked out of the mine that day – 29 people were unaccounted for.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/major-milestone-reached-in-pike-river-operation/EKXTECSBDXCTAHAS7VCKDTXJBE/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2ktLsnTUt9SXiCXfR_PkED_GtyLZbZjO9f-TAHAd0sDFaZ0RV8JF3_wAs#Echobox=1608687619
“We’ve now achieved another milestone, reaching the Rocsil Plug around 2244m up the Pike River Mine drift. This is as far as we go this year, as we close down for Christmas today and restart on Tuesday, 5 January, 2021.”
The plug is 10.3m of expanding foam that was pumped down a borehole in late 2019.
So when will angry stop wasting this money?
From https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/123803860/pike-river-mine-workers-reach-seal-at-the-top-of-the-mine-drift
……” The team will then return to complete a forensic search and recovery operation in an area called pit bottom in stone.
Pit bottom in stone is a 600m network of roadways about 1900m up the drift that holds vital electrical equipment which could provide data to explain the cause of the explosions. “……
Another 1900 metres! They should be able to milk this for at least another decade.
By then labour will be gone and angry retired and looking after the salvation army food bank!
Covid 19 Rhapsody
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eo9M4-BrJA