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Morning, all you happy campers.
Holidays don’t seem to be much fun these days.
Pic 2. My grandfather had one of those, and I remember riding around in it in Wellington on the cold, wrapped up inblankets and coats.
Was called a dickie seat. (and don’t bother).
And a very good morning to you all my fellow ysb-ers. ‘Tis Sunday and time to emerge into the world to see what luxflakes and co. have lined up for us today.
Although it’s somewhat long, I’ve posted an opinion piece by by Bryce Edwards below. It concerns the Mt. Manganui camping ground disaster, and while presenting a reasonable argument it is noticeable that Mr Edwards omits any direct reference to the ‘co-owners’ of the hill itself – the local iwi and the Tauranga City Council – the group that was ultimately responsible for it’s condition – and who got rid of all the non-native (Yet soil-retaining) trees, a detail which may have contributed to what occurred.
Why this might be I cannot say (Perhaps he’s not even aware of the relationship), but the ommission does seem somewhat unusual.
Despite that small detail, IMHO the article makes for an interesting read. Make of it as you will.
‘SHOCK TURNS TO ANGER AT MOUNT MAUNGANUI
The search for bodies at the foot of Mount Maunganui is still going on, but the mood has clearly shifted. In the first 24 hours it was all shock and grief. Now, as more details emerge about what happened at the Beachside Holiday Park, shock is turning to anger, and with that anger comes politics.
There always comes a point, after a “natural disaster”, when someone says that it is “too soon” to ask hard questions. The Post’s editorial today predicted this perfectly: “There will be some who say it is too soon to talk about climate change while the search for bodies is ongoing. They will say the commentary is ‘politicising’ the tragedy. But the reality is that rather than too soon, it may be too late.”
That line will annoy people. But it’s still true: disasters are political, because the risks were set by decisions made long before the rain arrived. Such disasters are political because they are where weather collides with decisions about land use, infrastructure, safety regulation, emergency management and, increasingly, climate policy. When people die, the question is not whether politics is involved, but whose politics has been quietly shaping the risks in the background.
WHAT HAPPENED AT MOUNT MAUNGANUI – AND WHY THE ANGER IS JUSTIFIED
By now the basic outline of the Mount Maunganui disaster is clear. Around 9.30am on Thursday, after a night of record-breaking rain, a huge slip tore down the side of Mount Maunganui (or Mauao), smashing through the Beachside Holiday Park and burying at least six people. A child and his grandmother were killed in a separate landslide in nearby Pāpāmoa.
Officials have repeatedly described the event as “unprecedented”. It was certainly catastrophic. Tauranga recorded 198mm of rain in 12 hours – two and a half months’ worth, and the city’s wettest night on record. But “unprecedented” is doing a lot of political work here.
Because the signs were there, both in the long-term science and in the hours before the hillside gave way.
The Post newspaper’s detailed reconstruction by Mike White and colleagues today lays this out starkly: “the signs were there of a looming catastrophe”. A July 2025 landslide study, commissioned by Tauranga City Council and prepared by WSP, used detailed terrain mapping to identify high‑risk slopes on Mauao. The mountain was the case study for the wider project, and the report “clearly flagged the danger across Mount Maunganui”.
Yet for some reason the mapped hazard boundary stopped at Adams Ave, just short of the holiday park. As The Post reports, experts suggest this was “likely because there are no permanent properties there requiring LIM notices”. In other words, because there were tourists rather than ratepayers, the risk effectively fell off the map.
The history of instability on that slope was not unknown. A 2014 scientific paper mapped landslides on Mauao back to 1943, including a major slip in 1977 in almost the same area behind the campground and hot pools. Andrea Vance notes that this long record of instability was precisely why the council started its city‑wide landslide mapping in 2023.
So this was not an invisible risk suddenly materialising out of nowhere. It was a known hazard, at a known site, in a week when MetService warnings and climate scientists alike were shouting about the severity of the incoming storm.
Then there are the hours immediately before the tragedy.
Residents describe a smaller slip around 5am that was serious enough to wake campers. Tauranga Mayor Mahé Drysdale now confirms there were reports of a small slip “from as early as 5am”. Local man Alister McHardy told the Herald he saw two big slips before 6am on the Maunganui Beach side, rang 111 at 5.47am to try to get campers and walkers evacuated, and was told to “talk to the council”. He started waking people up himself.
Another local, Colin McGonagle, was on the track above the campground around 7.45am and saw what the Australian Geomechanics Society would classify as textbook “telltale signs” of an active landslide: groundwater rushing through a wall of mud, trees already down, fresh soil that “came over about half an hour ago.” He warned a camper family that “this isn’t good”.
Campers themselves were uneasy. Auckland woman Karyn Henger, who fled with her teenage son, told the Herald she was “angry… because there are people that are not going to come out alive, and we could have been among them as well. Where were the campground staff? Where were the council? Where was anybody to warn us that we needed to get out of there?”
She expected staff would at least have spoken to guests on Wednesday morning, when it was obvious the rain was going to get worse: “When you’ve got families camping at the base of a mountain, you need to take responsibility for their safety.”
Despite this chorus of warnings, the only decisive official action on Thursday morning was at 8.56am, when the council announced the closure of walking tracks around the mountain because severe weather had “significantly destabilised the maunga, creating an ongoing risk of further slips and falling debris”. Yet there was still no order to evacuate the campground or the neighbouring hot pools. Half an hour later, the fatal slip came down.
This is why, as Tom Peters writes, “shock and grief” are “already turning to anger”, and why “critical questions are being raised” about why campers “were not evacuated despite severe weather warnings being issued well in advance”.
THE RITUAL OF REVIEWS – AND THE POLITICS OF BLAME
Faced with this timeline, politicians have reached for a familiar script. Luxon, asked on site why campers were not evacuated after the first slips, replied that these questions would be answered after a “proper process”. The mayor likewise announced an “independent review” to establish “the facts and events leading up to the landslide” and to “ensure that in the lead‑up to this tragedy, everything was done that was appropriate”.
Reid Basher, an expert on disaster risk governance, has warned us about exactly this pattern. After every disaster, he notes, inquiries tend to “take a close‑focus approach and be preoccupied with finding out where laws were broken and who may have failed in their accountability. Too often the finger points at hapless, mid‑level functionaries who were tasked with too many responsibilities and provided with too little funding.”
He invites us to imagine an inquiry that instead “unveils the trail of accountability that reaches the very top”, exposing the “longstanding inadequacies in political commitment, laws, policies and public investment on disaster risk and its management”.
Tom Peters is more blunt about the likely purpose of the announced review: “Like countless other official inquiries following such tragedies, its purpose will be to make a show of ‘learning the lessons’ while deflecting calls for accountability.”
This is not cynicism for its own sake. It reflects long experience of how power protects itself after disasters. The real decisions that put hundreds of people in harm’s way – to allow a campground at the toe of a known instability; to draw hazard maps around ratepayer properties but not around tourists; to underfund local government and Civil Defence; to leave climate adaptation to a fragmented patchwork of councils – are all political. But they tend to sit beyond the narrow remit of post‑disaster investigations.
If the Mount Maunganui review follows the usual script, it will focus on who wrote which email at 4.57am and whether the right phone number was called at 5.47am. Those operational failings matter, but they sit inside a political and regulatory system that made such a failure almost inevitable.
CLIMATE CHANGE AS THE BACKDROP POLITICIANS WON’T NAME
The other way politics is being carefully fenced off is through the treatment of climate change.
The Otago Daily Times editorial today put it bluntly: “we need to stop and ask – yet again – why such tragedies are happening.” New Zealand has always been hazardous, but we now sit “at the junction of where our changing climate and its more extreme weather clashes head‑on with human habitation and activities”. Yet governments still “carry on much as normal”, watering down climate policy while flying around in helicopters, apparently bewildered at what could possibly be causing the damage.
James Renwick has been crystal clear. Dealing with climate change, he says, is not a “cost to the economy” but an investment; if we do not make it, “the future cost is going to be huge and, ultimately, it’ll be overwhelming. It will destroy our economy.” Kevin Trenberth points out that record ocean heat is loading the dice, making storms “more common and more extreme”. The Post’s editorial calculates that last week’s rainfall in the Bay of Plenty would have been 15–20 per cent less intense without global warming, and the most intense bursts 30–40 per cent lower.
Yet when Christopher Luxon gave his State of the Nation speech, “climate change” did not rate a single mention, while “economy” or “economic” appeared 18 times. The ODT calls this out as delusional politics: a speech “about wanting to ensure the best possible future for Kiwis” that “completely ignored the most pressing issue”.
Max Rashbrooke notes that media coverage is still reluctant to join the dots either. Journalists in the field focus rightly on human stories; editors, he says, are “mindful of not being seen to push an ideological stance”. The result is that, even when floods and slips are obviously supercharged by climate change, “you will find few mentions” of it. But the link between climate change and severe weather is “simply the scientific consensus”. Not raising it is, in its own way, a political decision.
As Rashbrooke argues, connecting this week’s floods and landslides to a government that is “failing calamitously on carbon reduction” is not “exploiting a crisis”; it is “simply telling the truth”. The Government’s current plan leaves us tens of millions of tonnes short of our own emissions targets. That shortfall turns into storms, slips, evacuations and funerals down the track.
DISASTER AS THE PRICE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT MODEL
Basher talks about “the deadly combination of climate change and ongoing exploitative or thoughtless land‑use”. That phrase captures the wider pattern that ties Mount Maunganui to the rest of this summer’s disasters in Northland, the Coromandel, Tairāwhiti and beyond.
We keep building and rebuilding in floodplains and at the base of unstable slopes. Councils, under pressure to grow their rating base and keep rates down, open up marginal land. Central government refuses to fix the chronic underfunding of local infrastructure or to set a serious, nationally coordinated framework for climate adaptation. Renwick has been calling for such a framework, instead of the current piecemeal council‑by‑council approach.
When storms come, ministers reassure us that “we have been aware that it’s coming” and that the country is “well prepared”, as Mark Mitchell told RNZ listeners the night before the Mount Maunganui slip. Local states of emergency supposedly give officials “the power to move people to safety”. And yet, as Peters points out, no one moved the hundreds of people camping directly below a sodden, historically unstable hillside.
Afterwards, we call it a “natural” disaster, even though both halves of the equation – the intensity of the weather and the exposure of people and assets to harm – are strongly shaped by human choices.
Tom Robinson reminds us that, since European settlement, landslides have killed more people in New Zealand than earthquakes. Slips “take lives one or two at a time, often in places people think are safe.” That last phrase should haunt the political class. People at the Beachside Holiday Park did think they were safe. They assumed someone had properly assessed the risks of putting a campground there. They assumed that if the ground above them started moving by 5am, the authorities would not still have them in the firing line at 9.30am.
Those assumptions were not met. That is politics.
TOO LATE TO SAY ‘TOO SOON’
Some will insist that we should wait quietly for the official review. That it is ghoulish or opportunistic to ask hard questions while families are still waiting for news. But the question is not whether we talk politics; it is whose politics gets a free pass.
It was not considered “too soon” for Luxon to use his State of the Nation speech – delivered as storms were already unfolding – to centre his preferred economic narrative and ignore climate. It was not too soon for governments of both colours, over decades, to deregulate land use, cut back civil defence capacity, and drag their feet on emissions reduction. Those were political choices made entirely on their own timetable.
The Otago Daily Times editorial suggests it is “finally, definitively, time” for governments to “wake up and realise climate change is the most important issue facing us all.” It even throws down a challenge to Labour, noting that National plainly will not lead on this: “It would be refreshing to see one of the larger political parties place climate change at the top of its election agenda. We already expect that from the Green Party, although it has allowed itself to be diverted into other matters. National clearly isn’t going to. But how about it, Labour?”
This is the deeper democratic question beneath the rubble at Mount Maunganui. Are we content with a political class that treats each new “unprecedented” event as an act of God, to be followed by a forensic but narrow inquiry and then a return to business as usual? Or do we demand what Basher calls a “trail of accountability that reaches the very top” – through council chambers, corporate boardrooms and Cabinet – and a fundamental reset of how we plan, build and govern in a warming world?
If we choose the first path, then “shock turns to anger” will become the permanent part of our summers. If we choose the second, then this tragedy might, in some small way, help force the changes that could prevent the next one.
Either way, pretending that disasters like the Mount Maunganui landslide are apolitical is no longer credible. The politics is already there. They are there in the hazard maps we draw, the campgrounds we allow, the budgets we cut, the emissions we keep pumping out. The only question is whether we are prepared to name it, and to hold those responsible to account’.
Any investigation is only designed to cover the arse of council officials!
Climate Change has fuck all to do with this. Occasionally we get large rainfall events. More likely still getting all the stuff that the Tongan Volcano chucked up into the upper atmosphere. Maori separatists are the main reason here and their removal of “colonialists trees”. ( The volcano chucked both ash and water vapor into the stratosphere – These two things make clouds, lots of them. Read about the year with no summer during the Irish Potato famine… )
Can we agree CC panic doesn’t change the FACT that NZ regularly receives tropical cyclones with deluges of rain. The heavy rain and lashing winds were expected,
We agree NZ’s hilly terrain has regular slips. The Mount alone has documented proof of recent large slips.
We agree with geo-engineering reports removing “colonial” trees on the Mount undermined the soil above. Was soil engineers expert advice disregarded over special people “spiritual” crap (racist removal of white man trees)
We agree the public were reporting smaller slips from 5am. That a phone call was made to 111 police at 5.47am and was told to report to the council who confirm the call. Was there anything done or did they leave it until usual council office hours?
Even giving council workers their usual start time to arrive on site at 8am why were the campers not evacuated before the slip at around 9.30am??
Did anyone from the council even phone the camp workers to warn them? Why didn’t the police phone to confirm action had been taken to prevent a possible danger?
Well said. This was once again a tragedy brought about by human incompetence. Why did the police not react appropriately? Deferring the call to the council was stupid.
It was brought about by racist politics and separatism. Those trees were planted anytime after anglo settlers arrived in the region. Why is NZ’s anglo-colonial history allowed to be literally ripped out by the roots?
Now those who DEMANDED British protection from their own savagery now claim all the spoils.
Will the 111 operator get some “spiritual” council long?
Needs to get fired .But probably a DEI hire…..
”hold those responsible to account”
That would be the part Maoris who demanded to ”decolonise” the mountain by removing the oak trees that held the soil together.
And had the colonists never arrived NZ would have been a deserted country, eating themselves into oblivion. Obscurity through obesity and gluttony.
How will those who are rabidly ”decolonising” NZ of reminders of our country’s history separate from their own intrinsic gene pool?
What a conundrum for them.
Well there ain’t no real maoris left is there!
Here’s the latest blame game.
Mt Maunganui landslide: Questions over Civil Defence alert as landslide risk not mentioned.
Questions are being raised about why landslide risk wasn’t mentioned in a Civil Defence emergency cell phone alert to Bay of Plenty residents.
We did get a civil defence message about 10.00 PM the night before warning of the rain.
A Bay of Plenty Civil Defence emergency alert from the day before the slip focussed on rising water, driving safely, and caring for pets and livestock.
Oh fuck we forgot landslides, wind and all manner of other things your brain should pull up from its ancient rolodex. FFS.
here is the message.
https://www.waikatotimes.co.nz/media/images/9Tzi8ywRz924XE3uHaD6DZ3Ef+IdbOiYlvIROR5vlqUSeZYZbm+SU0zjMnNqDfql8Yk4r+Ht43oxrl86VwI5IF7k1TZFVP%2FGWCLS2aI+JHEDllgV4wP3Rn8JCVlRY9%2FhkQNOPVVUOSLAbdFHvwOE25Y9ReDlKaVPCFxIFN07%2FR48yWXl9TvzmAbRygfXl55ZzMgQotVUrxdQV4537WLVX7o0PaapZSlh86bS+NmdrKrQR3NxuiAFLaaY1JcYNEtQf3iCb6pjl2MuQr84jBhKWLWwvSD%2F99E4YAzK3%2F4x4Eyzp6jP1TtISulPSxOLFGFats+sRCydIhegU8k2rV12nJLLnQQD5oaiFIMEGKTixffokxftV7u2sam%2F7Y2IJjY19gI17nSn2TQKq3Bl6oALZ+06Lx9jZpgP6%2FA4qnJUZYMZrkLzxVwZsDJOEvJJOGUO89yaVBWZPYIisPnEp4lUBToMI2MNPG8Izu+Sf+EeszmqcZOCUdu6KZnFi6yaHyoTQvLZDQhrGskR6oM3A+c8XA==?resolution=1240×700
What a load of garbage. Climate change nutter shit.
The facts are that it was not unusual, as was shown by Ian Wishart last night.
The facts about the mountain are well documented, even though they are ignored by the mindless, stupid, brain-dead “owners” of the property. You want to see some of the black haridans and their racist attacks on people, their mumbo jumbo and taniwha crap. They are making all manner of claims.
As for the climate thingy. Well, the Earth is at its closest to the sun currently. Perhaps that has something to do with it. Perhaps that means it’s hotter, so we get more evaporation of sea water and therefore more rain. The corollary is that the Northern hemisphere, which is further from the sun, is about to undergo freezing temperatures.
I noticed the moon last night was still on its side, tipping all that water down upon us. It was.
When something goes wrong, first you sort it out, next you gather all the information, find out all the why’s and wherefores and then analyse what needs to be done. Thats system management 1O1.
There are 2 real issues here, assuming that
1. We cannot stop the rain and
2. The terrain we live on ain’t going to change.
1. What is the role of personal responsibility for your own safety?
You are not in an employment situation where someone mothers you.
2.The camp and the pools are a workplace, so that leads to the question, who had the responsibility for the management of the site? What disaster response plans were in place?
The facility is under the management of Bay Venues, who have paid directors and management staff.
The, what happened is patently clear, so we actually don’t need a lot of time spent on that. Past experiences are well recorded. We can update some of the details which are fairly obvious.
But the real questions have to be asked of the directors and that’s Worksafe’s job. So far, other than the odd person like myself saying so, no one in officialdom has mentioned WorkSafe.
It is definitely in their ballpark, and they should be there with bells on. Pike Creek should have taught these people something. An exit sign at the gate isn’t it. Having no one trained at the site is not it.
What happens to the Mount and the site is for a later day. It’s iconic and has around 1 million people a year walking the tracks. Its great place to watch ships up close.
Better management and charging for the walk would be better for the ratepayers. After all its private property, supposedly, with public access. No different to a track through your farm. We all know the constraints that Worksafe and all those rules have placed on farm visits.
I can see it being like all the CNI forests. Closed of forever if they dig their toes in.
Time heals, but will we develop a better system?
How much of that rain is from the Tongan volcano?
Doesn’t change the tropical cyclone deluge was warned and the actual weather left nobody in any doubt there was a shit load of rain delivered.
Not the first bad slip in Tauranga and won’t be the last.
As Viking points out Civil Defence also fu*ked up badly not including probable slips in their warning.
or perhaps from a few others like Hawaii, Philipines and so on.
and the latest carbon from big ships.
Our yard drain is still collecting dust when it rains. No places around that would contribute.
Thanks.
Here’s what AI says.
Yes, significant amounts of water vapor from the 2022 Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai eruption are still present in the atmosphere.
This makes the 2022 Tongan eruption the most significant volcanic water vapor injection ever recorded in the satellite era.
So definitely could have been a contributing factor.
As I was saying without deferring to AI. Looks like my degree in Climatology was not a waste of time….
A question, this part of the camping ground around by the Hot Pools, has it always been in existence. I cannot remember seeing one in that area – last there 2021 – always around further towards the sea ????.
The pools and camp have been there for decades. Nice facilities.
yep been there a long time. Has been developed a bit more. Used to be mainly tents way back and a place for boat parks.
Thanks, guess as we have never been there during summer peak the tents would have all been gone when we were there.
1992
You can see all the trees in this pic.
In another pic that I have all that area where the lone pine is was actually a big block of trees. It is also a slip site, so always suspect.
by interesting read komata do you think that if kiwis hadve paid 50 or even 100billion more in tax to the climate gods that the rain wouldve been 15-20% less and those poor bastards would still be alive?
see, the thing that fucks me off about this climate grift shit is they pretend nz is a major emitter and that we can change the worlds temps and weather. we fucking cant, its completely futile and we could be fully net zero or go negative and there would be nothing noticable. our entire country dosent even equal a a large city in other countries and not even close to a mega city.
ok blame climate change if they must but you cant do jack shit about it and its just a fucking cop out, something to blame that the govt and council can fleece more money from the tax/ratepayers and avoid all accountability with.
even the author of that piece is a well known grifter and hes more than likely paid to push the climate grift hence why he avoids other potential causes and real solutions.
and then the big elephant in the room that no one will dare mention…. sometimes shit just happens. a combination of many peoples small mistakes and natural processes all line up into an unpredictable fuckup. the kind of odds it takes to win powerball etc.
problem is when the feelz get going and amplified in media and online the feelz drive blame game and want for change and fixes for the future. but that ALWAYS results in more over reach and nanny state, can you imagine if we pandered to every one in 100million chance freak event?
and then if it was that obvious it was going to happen why didnt people self evacuate? we’re is personal accountability here, there were campers warning other campers, some moved on outve fear and others didnt. perhaps as shit as it is some or even a large part of the blame lies with them.
decades of nanny state, the whole covid thing too has conditioned simple sheep to believe that they can drop their guard and the govt will protect and shelter them from any hazard.
perhaps the better response to this isnt more risk/hazard identification and clipboard warriors, maybe its do less and start to teach citizens to be more responsible for themselves. surely 5million people looking after themselves and others is more effective than a few hundred leftist climate goons using clipboards and computer models?
food for thought dont ya think?
only mugs in 15% of the world population pay into the climate fund/Paris accord
85% of the world do NOT.
it is a scam …of a scam.
It is a European thing ….that NZ followed.
Daft
Africa, China, USA, India, Middle East (which is actually hot, unlike NZ) et al do not follow this shit.
We have seen in the last 2 weeks over Greenland how mental the EU is (plus UK Govt, same ol same ol)
We have seen over the last 2 to 4 years how mental Europe (the Govt shitheads) are over Ukraine
and yet NZ followed into his mental shit .
that is just Mental
Johnny keys of Notional signed NZ up to this expensive boondoggle
then bailed out of politics
what a low life piece of shit john key is
all day, every day.
Yup, spot on. Our focus on safety has removed our ability to assess risk.
For goodness sake DON’T THINK FOR YOURSELF!! // 🤨
No, you need a council official with a clipboard to do that!
They have special inclusive training and Maori indoctrination!
“we could be fully net zero or and there would be nothing noticable. ”
Arguably NZ is already net zero or even carbon negative if it is measured properly.
The net zero is for national productividy
Achieved !!!
Oddly the message at WEF is now gearing more toward requiring energy any way that can be improved so fire up the gas/coal or nuclear electricity producing plants.
Can it be mass control cannot be put in place without energy hungry data centres?
We’re still coming out of the last Ice Age. This isn’t over yet.
We must adapt to a changing climate. Like we must adapt to our changing New Zealand (read Auckland) culture as the masses of eager workers are encouraged into the country.
If Labour is the party for the workers, why do they allow so many low-wage workers into the country? It depresses wages and pushes up rent.
I would expect TPM to be vehemently opposed to immigration. (On the other hand, Communists are international socialists so maybe not.)
The planet earth is largely cold
The ice age is the norm
The earth is constantly moving
That is why there are jagged coastlines.
Where they are straight is where the land is soft and moulded by water
mountains rise and fall **
earth moves like Abbotsford in 1979.
The 2002 to 2005 prevalence of Easterlies and storms saw many floods and slides in and around Tauranga.
Nothing is new here .
or unexpected.
at present we are in an interim NON-Cold period
happens from time to time
Humans have wisely learned to move towards warmth
for a variety of reasons including ability to grow crops
The recent mini ice age of the 1700s is a reminder that a few degrees colder makes it hard to grow crops, and people starve…..
Humans like warmth
and the majority live closer to the equator than do not .
There are large tracts of land where there is little or no human life
Siberia , Northern Canada and so on
You could buy 1000 acres for $1
coz no smart person wants to live there
at best it is an existence
Humans thrive in inter ice age periods, ….when they can keep warm.
Hysteria over a warmer planet is ONLY sought out by those with severe mental health disorders
(that is; a lot of politicians, But true observers know this already )
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**Mt Cook in New Zealand officially lost 30 meters (\(98\) feet) of height, dropping from 3,754 to 3,724 meters (\(12,218\) feet). This reduction was primarily caused by a massive 1991 landslide that removed 10 million cubic meters of rock and ice from the summit.
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land is always on the move
that media and politicians get all gee’d up when it actually happens near them is a clear sign of low IQ.
Mt Cook in New Zealand officially lost 30 meters
That must be cause the weight of the tourist’s eyes when they gaze on it.
Plus the onerous taking of photos, took that life force of that mountain.
This poor mountain also needs a rest, a rahui, & more subservience from the NZ government, = taxpayers.
Now being cursed as Aoraki, so doomed to lose much more, before a cataclysmic uplift to go somewhere.
The cursed te reo overpowering Western civilisation’s science, levering of UNDRIP to activate the He Puapua guide & time lines.
All good thoughts.
Been given another month’s holiday on Facebook. Those fuckers hate truth being pointed out. Especially anything to do with sambos.
You will better for it. Its a cesspool of leftwing woke fucktards .And mostly AI crap these days, bit like you tube. Both are fucked.
Let that be a lesson for you. Lie down with dogs, ya get cooties. As the big dog would say, “ big beautiful cooties”
get vikey to have a word with his bestest buddy zucks.
Oh I get my share. Just learned to be more subtle. Plenty of nasty black pieces having a go last night. I kept my cool but the FB owner shut them down.
Yeah you know me. I go in with all barrels firing. That won’t ever change. Im an Aries. It’s how we roll.
when you are one eyed, life has its challenges !
The made in China liver does not help
along with the transplanted sheep’s lungs.
That is a human heart though, riiight?
just tell FB it was the anti rejection drugs that caused it 🐏🐏 💊💊
watch
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What’s the saying? There’s nothing new in this world
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We have room to do much better
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Up or Down?
If only guns could vote!
https://x.com/WeaponsVault/status/2014911335142658234?s=20
Democrats must own as many guns as Republicans!
Immigration Deal With India Sparks Backlash: Insider Speaks Out!
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Sorry about the length, but some things need to be fkin said.
“Tauranga’s avoidable disaster.
Before the trolls start I’m going to put my credentials up here. Apart from a lifetime interest in geology and landforms, and having an NZCE in civil engineering, neither of which counts for much, what does count in my opinion, is the fact that I owned and operated a geotech contracting company specialising in slip remedial work for nearly 20 years. I have worked on and under more dangerous slips than I care to remember. More than once, I had to make a run for it.
We have a human tragedy that is horrific, and the terrible drama will play out in the fullness of time. We all feel for the people involved. But something needs to be said right now to avoid all this in the future.
Our politicians are obsessed with the politics of climate change and the control over the population that they want.
The planet is billions of years old, and ever since the first drop of rain fell on it, it has been eroding and shaped by it. That is why we have mountains and valleys, rivers and lakes. Erosion is why we have silted-up harbours, and why the planet’s topographical features are continually evolving and, indeed, abrading into the oceans. It’s what it does. Nothing new there.
Mountains, rivers and lakes are not people in spite of what you are led to believe, as majestic as they are, they don’t have personalities, human rights or traits. They are landforms, roadside berms and railway embankments are made of the same stuff. So is the stuff your house is sitting on. Rain, rivers and slips go downhill; they don’t come back up to argue. That’s gravity.
There are a lot of reasons for slips, but whenever you have permeable silts on a fragile slope, and you feed water into it from the surface or the substrata, whether it sits on an inclined slip plane or not, it can turn to thick soup and you can get a slip.
Deep rooted vegetation is a very good way to mitigate the risk and our mounts that remain standing, owe a lot to vegetation, perhaps everything.
It is now fairly evident that the Tauranga council, at the insistence of Iwi, using rate-payers money, removed big trees in the area of this slip simply because they were colonial.
This is where superstition, stupidity and cultural arrogance hits the brick wall. There is a massive lesson to be learned here.
As it happens the very people that insisted on the removal of the trees, are the same ones that are now talking about the ‘maunga recovering’, ‘time off for healing’, no doubt some sort of ‘spiritual controlling rahui’ and other spiritual claptrap when in fact it is nothing more than soil engineering and landslip mitigation, all of which they know nothing about and should be left to the geotech engineers.
Having said that, where were the council engineers when they were removing the trees..? Asleep?
There are some excellent overhead views of this slip and there is no doubt in my mind at least, as to what happened. There is going to be an enquiry for sure, but the question is, are they going to investigate the massive elephant in the room here…or are we going to be listening to the lunatic green fringe and be paying a lot more in taxes to mitigate ‘climate change’..?
People of Tauranga and indeed people of New Zealand, you have to take a kick up the backside too for voting these fringe lunatics into your councils and government. You whinge about taxes and rates and then allow these woke fools to put in place policies that waste it…and now worse…!!
Yes, this disaster is raw in everyone’s mind right now, but now is a great time to wake up and take an interest in what is happening to your country at a national and local government level.
You are losing control to the fake tribalists who insist on 12th century spiritual nonsense for the eventual benefit and current control, power and riches of the gravy train, aided by ridiculously stupid governments and councils….and the media.
What we have just witnessed is a civil engineering failure thanks to Iwi and council incompetence, not climate change, not spirits.
let’s do something about it before it happens again, and it will.”
All correct.
It’s a worksite with no safety plan run by Bay Venues which is a PCBU. Under worksafe’s durastiction for these things.
Ban that person for speaking truth
Cancel now
lets boycott their business, place of work and grandmothers gravesite !!
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the issue that is clear is that most native bush especially regenerative is scrub and scrappy shit. like manuka . weak root systems .
In 1990 as part of 150 years la dee da the Auckland council planted a Kauri tree in The Domain .
After 15 years it was about 4 foot tall.
about 2013 they took it way to a tree museum or something and left a plaque in its place.
it was too weak to survive in that park without major care. .
The local trees are or any substance are pretty useless.
live one tree hill. No tree more than a quarter of a century
it should be renamed to NO tree Hill
it is a mere 182 metres above sea level, or less than 600 feet.
but after many attempts they cant get native trees to grow there
and an angry hori chopped down (well killed with an axe) the exotic tree that was actually growing there.
this native tree stuff is a rort .
and the maori happily burned these down in the past to chase out birds as they had no proper trapping methods .
I believe that Mike Smith, the angry hori, actually used a chainsaw rather than an axe. This is cultural appropriation in itself. He should have used a stone adze, but I’m sure he had no idea how to make one, and couldn’t afford to be chipping away at said tree for the several days required.
BTW what tribe would “Mike Smith” whakapapa to?
Captain Cook!
Many NZ natives require shelter/shade in their juvenile stages. They grow slowly until they near the canopy then their form changes. Eg. Rimu, Pseudophanax, Kauri. They resist being transplanted into open ground & amazingly, mature gorse bushes can be their best protection.
Planting a kauri is usually a PR stunt. In any case they will not survive more than a few years south of a line drawn between Kawhia & Opotiki.
is that ancient maori gorse (developed by an ancient maori sage from cross breeding in a nursery in Torepoo in the 1410s )
or
the nasty white fullas imported scrub ?
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Apparently sone doing pretty well in Wellington:
https://kauri2000.co.nz/2017/03/14/kauri-distribution/
Some people I know in the Hutt have one that’s probably more than a hundred years old growing in their front garden.
There is a variety known as southern Kauri.
Nothern Kauri were not usually found below Waitapheta, although there is a big old one up in the Doc area on the access to the joint generation Hydro scheme,e Omanawa.
Where did you get that, or are you a geotech????
He copied it from yesterdays have your say
you wish
https://ysb.co.nz/have-your-say-641/#comment-466483
Never argue with your betters
See what happens when you miss a day on ysb.
“It is now fairly evident that the Tauranga council, at the insistence of Iwi, using rate-payers money, removed big trees in the area of this slip simply because they were colonial.”
Wake up New Zealand.
pic wont post.
Looking at my collection of pics there was a big group of trees there originally. It is also a big slip site.
What a great photo – year??. The bit where the camping ground is appears quite steep, has that een flattened out??
1920 this one is the 60’s and you can seeMarineland there where we had dolphins an all sorts of water slides etc.
has now
What Pilot Bay was like early last century. I was told byan old fellow that his family visited the mount back in these days and that the waves would sometimes wash completely over the sand from the beach.
There have been conflicting reports about that. Hopefully the truth will come out eventually though I’m not holding my breath.
Stone-age savages and cannibals are always right
wash your mouth out and behave.
your social credit just took a dive !!
The truth, your joking!
You will believe the Maori version an be thankful.
The report will be written in whitewash painting the noble savage as a true victim of colonisation. Bureaucratic errors will be heavily disguised so as to fade into the background while the total inertia of those charged with handling emergencies will be wrapped in copies of Worksafe regulations lovingly tied together with police emergency tape.
Finally the tome containing the report will be embargoed for 70 years, draped with a fluoro jacket & deepsixed into a bottomless filing cabinet. We will be treated to the haunting strains of an expensive karakia intoned at great cost by a pack of venal Maori gimmees.
It’s the Aotearoaian way!
Some of you may enjoy me attempting to kick this particular hornet’s nest:
The Case for Colonisation – No Minister
I give a positive take on colonisation and its ubiquitous nature across mankind. Leftards should absolutely hate it.
The man who first alerted England to the rubber boat illegals crossing the Channel arriving at Dover. He has created a stir calling for total “remigration” to return England to the English.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZSE-Pa6Yj0
Challenging Steve Law’s 6-Step Remigration Plan
Shock and horror, no social media
https://x.com/benonwine/status/2014773706589983219?s=46
Luv it.
His phone is the equivalent to having a sexual disease.
Putin has joined President Trump’s Board of Peace and has pledged $1billion of Russia’s currently frozen assets with the rest to rebuilding Ukraine when the war between the two countries stops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSYstvxynI0
Trump to Davos: “Sign Your Surrender” (The Board of Peace)
Promethean Updates
Barbara Boyd discusses the ramifications following President Trump’s landmark move at Davos to replace the globalist order with a new ‘Board of Peace.’ Highlighting the failure of the United Nations and the beginning of a new era
Ken has a good take on this:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=J287odqIZ2I
For those that hate the fraudulent Michael Mann who is probably the most guilty of the Climate Change scam read this and enjoy….
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2026/01/22/mighty-mickey-has-struck-out-again/
And in case anyone missed my point “Fuck you Michael Mann, you fraudulent opinionated, ignorant twat.”
There is no global warming
https://x.com/rabbitholebot/status/2014514731525009643?s=46
Let them niggers free
https://x.com/jakecan72/status/2014920613656514919?s=46
That is sort of the “gold claim” that Iaasb needs to make. 😁
gotta be a few oz in those things of theyre not plastic. one good punch and youd be rich picking up those gold nuggets!
I like bbq
https://x.com/5am1am_6/status/2014684550593720478?s=46
Someone needs to import this speaker here to teach our natives the truth about rights
https://x.com/sadie_nc/status/2014518094928982329?s=46
“This equity fight is unbiblical“
Balls, balls the size of ????
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3vOWODYTpVk
The documentary about him called “Free Solo” follows his preparation for, and climb of, El Capitan in Yosemite. First person to do it without ropes and solo. Seen it a couple of times. Quite incredible – I get vertigo just sitting on the couch watching. He’s got to be well along “the spectrum”.
The worst part is completing, facing out, & not holding anything.
A bit of a worry if the balls prove to be shifting his centre of gravity,
as also noting that it seemed very breezy up there.
The other note of concern could be the claim of cultural appropriation of that slightly difficult part of the climb.
Just waiting for the screams coming out about standing on that ferny symbol.
Would they, the new self-claiming owners, declare that maunga, with those stolen cultural adornments of whatever ferny curls, needs a rahui along with some haka championed koha?
Boat ramp scam alert!!
Two very sexy looking blonde girls come over to your 4wd while you are getting the boat out of the water.
They both start cleaning your boat with sponge and soapy water, with their breasts almost falling out of their skimpy dresses! It is impossible not to look.
When you thank them and offer them a tip, they say no thanks and instead ask you for a ride to the 24 hour BP petrol station a couple of kms down the road so they can get smokes and a cold drink. You agree and they get in the backseat.
Then on the way, they pull their dresses down . Then one of them climbs over into the front seat and starts crawling all over you, while the other one steals your wallet.
I had my wallet stolen December 4th, 9th,10th, twice on the 15th, 17th, 20th, and three times this morning!!
So tell your friends to be careful.
I’ll need to buy more wallets.. Where is this boat ramp???
‘I say I say I say, my Maori’s got no nose!’
‘How does he smell?’
‘Like stale beer & KFC.’
Mt Maunganui (Monganui) is now pronounced Mt Moooaunganui by TV1 news. Heh. Don’t you look stoopid, TV1. Pathetic cnuts.
Going back into the mists of time of my family, my great grandfather lived near a pa, swam in the river with the maori kids.
Later in life also acted, not so much for the crown, but for the maori as an interpreter.
So my father could also recall my grand father able to understand when maori was spoken and surprized them when he was able to pick up & chat in their lingo.
The point was as my Dad explained, that some maori want to “speak with a plum in their mouth”.
A certain tribe gained dominance in translation to maori in the late 19th Century with the government and lorded it over all other tribes as being the official way.
Now it seems that more recently there has kick back against this, as they seem to quietly scrap amongst themselves, while not wanting to upset things too much, so as to not lose the $trough, which any how seems to have been expanded & kept well topped up.
the area was called Maunganui, and when that whitie fella came along, the Mt was named that.
Mauao has surfaced in recent years, and I think the nutters that name things made it official.
It is still the mount to most people.
Plus all the quick change of name based on this tradgety to make it a “mayo”.
Just like White Island became “Whakaari” Fuck are we?? as the police etc.. set out to hamper rescues & then the prosecutions by the Judiciary forcing people to pay for very expensive Defence.
The procedure being the punishment at the very least.
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It does seem google search has shut down the source of this, but slips by in this long winded puffed article.
…… It was around this time that Tā Tipene O’Regan became something of a public figure, brought to his attention when then Prime Minister Robert Muldoon’s response to the prospect of a settlement with Ngāi Tahu was:—
“This country’s not going to be held to ransom by a cunning part-Māori.”
“I had several public debates with him which got quite a lot of media attention, …..
https://ngaitahu.iwi.nz/opportunities-and-resources/publications/te-karaka/celebrating-a-life-well-lived-tk90/
Sort of modernized with `Never trust a Maori with a briefcase’.
And an audit done on late model Rangers, BMW & Audis.
Yet all the elite lived a life of Riley, even back then.
Yet here we are, aided and abetted by socialist academia, amplified by progressive media, and sucked on by greenstone tiki public, where no one will call out what is a shovel or a spade.
Just to make sure we have no idea what they’re talking about, apparently the maori name “Maunganui” has now been replaced with “Mauao”.
Meanwhile, on the East Cape, some silly bint informs the reporter that her people have lived there “since the beginning of time”
FS someone fix this shit.
That one knew all the buzz words for gimmie.
She was complaining today, Sunday, the ‘cheque’ hadn’t arrived after Luxon flew in Friday for a look see.
Being white men we can have no idea of the geographic & geological sciences as practised by the early Tangata Whenua. It must have been a a strange yet mystical time to go for a walk around the NI not knowing which mountain might be heading in the other direction.
It was about the time that Mt Egmont had packed a sad with Tongariro, Ngauruhoe & Ruapehu & buggered off to Taranaki. Mauro decided to get in on the act as Te Ara relates:
#. “Mauao is the sacred mountain at the entrance to Tauranga Harbour. Its name, meaning ‘caught in the light of the day’, comes from the legend in which Mauao was once a nameless mountain, spurned in love by the beautiful mountain Pūwhenua. One night he begged the fairy-like creatures of the forest to drag him to the ocean and end his misery. But the creatures fled as the morning sun’s rays struck, and he was transfixed on the spot.”
Maori vulcanologists have much to teach the Pakeha.
Thats good houch you are using.
Slip north of Auckland
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Qp0hi2WwB9Y
That was a bit too close for comfort
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