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    • “I just had it from Jami-Lee Ross and since there’s very little in it with us agreeing with the [Government’s] Infrastructure Commission it makes sense to leave with Finance,” Collins said.

      They really do have to stretch to get their hits.

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  1. Dunedin’s former Hillside Engineering workshop may be back on track.

    The 7-hectare complex was built in the heart of South Dunedin in 1875, and employed about 1200 people at its peak. Most of its work was for KiwiRail before it closed in 2012 with the loss of 90 jobs.

    It was not mentioned in the Government’s official statement on rail investment as part of the recent Wellbeing Budget, but was raised by associate Transport Minister Shane Jones, who told media the closure was a “mark of shame” under the previous Government.

    “Such a legacy institution … huge human capital reserves were squandered and lost, so I look forward to bringing a proposal forward to KiwiRail and to the ministers who comprise the regional growth team so that we turn around the fortunes of places like Dunedin.”​

    Sucking up to the Labour supporters.
    Resurecting the dead.
    Might even call it grave robbing. 😆

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/113749846/dunedins-hillside-may-be-back-on-track

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    • I was sad when the workshops closed.
      Making locos here was and is stupid.
      But railway wagons sounds a good idea.
      They are low tech.
      Use steel – which we make here in NZ and they are heavy to ship.
      Saves our overseas funds.
      Workers and the factory pay rates and tax.
      So to me it makes sense to make wagons here.
      Its just that our high wages here in NZ keep going up each year.

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      • Doubt we make the right type of steel.
        Yep, there are many different types of steel.
        Springs are another issue. There are only one or two springmakers left with the capacity to make the springs. One being in Rotorua and the other in the south Island.

        You want more union members propping up Labour?

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        • Maybe Don Trump will offer the mad queen some cheap steel.

          Oh wait…. that’s already been shit caned.

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    • Seriously, what is he smoking? He interviewed MPs to cone to this conclusion. 1 year extra will see better long term decision making, it will allow them to tackle climate change.

      It is all bullshit.

      This is how Jacinda Ardern starts the 1 party state. 4 year terms, 7 years, 15 years then lifetime.

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    • Personally I have always thought a four year term would be better.
      It gives the new government time to enact their policies without undue haste and time for them to start to work.

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      • If a government is doing a good job they get a second term and therefore 6 years.
        Three year terms and reduce the number of troughers.

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        • We might not mind so much if that is the reason, not so much if the reason is a wedding.

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      • Nope, it means they need to know what those policies and get their arses into gear, tell the voters and get it done.
        Lets do this.

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    • The pigs want at the trough again!

      “The general agreement was that the House currently undertakes relatively little scrutiny of long-term policy problems or the quality of anticipatory governance,” the report said.

      “The current three-year Parliaments, as well as reinforcing a short-term bias in ministers and MPs, contributes to a substantial turnover rate of MPs,” said Prof Boston.

      So, by increasing it by one year a miracle in long-term policy will happen? It’s hard enough to get rid of MPs as it is; an even higher rate of turnover would be preferable.

      We had a worthless referendum that asked for a reduction in the parasites and now they’re asking for another 30 control freaks? We have too many as it is. The three year term limit is bad enough as it is: we’re witnessing with the CoL just how much damage they can inflict in such short order that these wankers want to give them even more time to destroy our civilisation?

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    • I support a four year term but he is nuts with an increase in parliamentary numbers.

      If ever there is a case for `less is more’ it is with the number of politicians.

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    • I saw last night/early this morning it was averaging $1000 a minute since this 2nd attempt got started….

      If you believed all the trash on MSM you’d think it’d be doing $10 a year with no one supporting him…

      And now they’re dragging his wife and her sporting career into the cesspit too…. most MSM fucking disgusts me these days

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    • That is great news. A small victory for personal freedom and a chance to show how the media portrays the opposite of the truth.

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      • Totally agree Pascal putting the cause aside i love the way the Folau’s have doubled down instead of crawling back into a hole as most do when constantly attacked by our gutless media, Australia Rugby & League must be quietly sweating bullets at their support i dont think they have a clue just how much our Pacific Island friends passionately support each other and how much their religion means to them

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  2. Really? The rich and the poor want to come here. Is the sky really falling?

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/392926/climate-apartheid-between-rich-and-poor-looms-un-expert-warns

    Developing nations are expected to suffer at least 75 percent of the costs of climate change – despite the fact that the poorer half of the world’s population generate just 10 percent of emissions.

    Those “who have contributed the least to emissions… will be the most harmed,” he said, warning that the effects could undo 50 years of progress on poverty reduction.

    Doesn’t that also apply to our level of emissions?

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    • How is this for envy.

      When Hurricane Sandy hit New York in 2012, most citizens were left without power, yet “the Goldman Sachs headquarters was protected by tens of thousands of its own sandbags and power from its generator.” Similarly, “private white-glove firefighters have been dispatched to save the mansions” of the wealthy.

      Private ‘white glove’ firefighters lol.

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      • How is it different from having private medical insurance, doesn’t that take the pressure off public services?

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        • Not different at all as long as the user pays and if your possessions mean that much to you that you hire a private army big deal like you say envy its a nasty disease that i normally equate to the left wing losers

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      • Many people scoff at so called “preppers” too, there’s heaps of YT videos on the subject of preparedness. Those people will no doubt bitch and moan and blame the government when the preppers are shown to have been nothing more than prudent individuals taking responsibility for themselves.

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    • The end goal is so damn obvious- guilt trip the West into diluting our standard of living in the name of the false god “climate change.” Been listening to this crap for years. Notice how every single storm, lightning strike, wild fire, rain, snow, etc is no longer just mother nature? We have to DO something!!! Lol!

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    • They just don’t get it do they? That the “climate change” we are experiencing has absolutely nothing to do with emissions and everything to do with the Sun. We will learn the truth of that in the next few years in such a way even the most dimwitted Greenie will understand as we progress into the GSM.

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  3. Finally, we have proof – there is a God

    And by fucking hokey, He is on Israel Folau’s side!

    The hot news in the Australian media (largely suppressed in NZ of course) is that hot on the heels of the successful screeching campaign headed by that scrubber Liz Ellis to shut-down (deplatform, unperson, censor, erase, 2 minute hate) Folau’s GoFundMe page – Israel’s hopes have arisen like Lazarus in the form of the Australian Christian Lobby launching their own “Religious Freedom” funding page to support Folau.

    Buoyed by the campaign of hate by the race-baiting, hate-speeching, religious freedom hating SJW crowd and their toadies in the airline and the banking indusry – Folau’s campaign is getting the kind of wall to wall massive free publicity that once only Donald Trump could earn.

    Folau’s fund is already at $1.5M in what 36 hours? I imagine there is widespread flooding in Australia now due to the lakes of salty libtard tears of frustration. I AM FUCKING LOVING THIS.

    The left never learn, they always forget the Streisand effect. The mass bullying and downright 1984 of their behaviour has turned Folau into a martyr, $1000 a minute in donations!

    I’m beginning to soften my position on God, surely only a truly divine power could crush the evil, satanic establishment in such a hilarious and demeaning fashion. Hallelujah!

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    • DP you always make me smile Hallelujah indeed, i wonder if our media party are clever enough to realise they caused this or will they do what comes naturally to them and continue their promotion of the Folau’s fund they must have a couple of opinion writers left in NZ or Aussie that haven’t had their 2 cents worth yet

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      • Thank you GM for kind words. Lots of non-intersectional, unwoke, de-rainbowised, purely fraternal man hugs coming in your direction. And as for your question, I believe they don’t know how to stop digging that hole for themselves – so they’ll continue the pile-on. At times I’m hopeful that the pendulum is finally swinging back on the SJWs.

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  4. We need more right wing academics! So they can push back on all this left wing disaster crap

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    • I’d be very happy to settle for “any” conservative academics, let alone more.

      In fact, I’d like tertiary institutions to be forced to demonstrate political balance on their campuses, having to prove that there is an equal number of left and right leaning teachers in front of the students.

      And not just tertiary, all education institutions should have to demonstrate they’re free of political bias, with cameras monitoring all classrooms and loss teaching rights for any overt brainwashing by loony lefty teachers.

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      • Appalled when a neighbour told me his children at primary school were being told by teachers how bad Trump was – such propaganda should be totally outlawed in schools whose job is to teach the three R’s and other subjects to fit children for life as an adult and allow them to decide when old enough on Political/Religious matters.

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        • I had a teacher when I was 14 that told the class that we should vote Labour when we were of age. Given she was never reprimanded, and with a bunch of other crap I had to put up with at school, I’ve always viewed teachers as propaganda agents first and foremost.

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    • It is not just left and right politics but also future employment for school leavers with academic pathways to university being promoted by some schools as the only option over trade/construction employment. Some schools, especially girls schools who encourage all their students to go down the academic route will not allow representatives from the trade/construction in the school gate to inform students of alternative options.

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      • The construction industry and trades should be promoted to all young folks; if you’ve got a good attitude and want to learn a trade, you can make decent money with no student loan required. I scored a full time job with a cabinet maker 3 days after getting my work visa here, many years ago. Within 5 years I was running my own furniture business. There are definitely other options besides Uni.

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        • They run great trades related programs down here at the SIT we have no problems getting apprentices it’s the labourers we struggle to get half of them vanish as soon as they find out we have pre-employment drug testing there are still a lot of capable young ones out there so it’s not all bad news or maybe we dont have quite the same bludging mentality down here Ha who am i kidding ferals live everywhere you just dont notice them as much in smaller towns

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          • I read some statistic recently where for every person employed in Northland, there were like 10 dependents or some ridiculous figure like that. Take out the kids and the elderly from the equation, and that still leaves a lot of room for serious bludging! Hey buddy your welfare check is hidden in a fruit orchard in Napier….no drug test required- if you start pickin’ you just might find it!

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    • Rumour has it she has gone full Sharia and converted to Islam. From now on she wishes to be called by her Muslim name, Cindy bin Lying.

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    • Awww did she not realize that being nothing more than a media puppet wasn’t her only job that eventually even our piss poor media would have to start asking those nasty questions she should be so lucky to only look haggard and not in stocks for being a traitor to our great country

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    • All those lies, right to the face of NZ, must be accelerating the aging process! “Largely successful”- my good God how can this lot do any worse with housing!

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    • Weird- cobras aren’t native to the States, and I bet would be totally illegal to import. Snake should have been relocated to a zoo.

      Speaking of Grandmas, the other day some dipshit wrecked his car in the front yard of an Alabama Granny’s house, with a couple grandkids inside. The driver approached the house wanting to use the phone. When she refused, he continued to walk toward the house, so he was warned with a rifle shot over his head. He got down on his knees, and the grandkids called the cops whilst Granny held the dude at gunpoint. He tried to run when the cops got there, but was soon arrested and the car was stolen. Isn’t some good news nice for once?

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      • The article stated it was non-native and might be an escaped snake from someone’s illegal menagerie (that had been busted up).

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        • I hadn’t clicked the other link…a black market for highly venomous snakes. I hope they bite the bastards who smuggled them!

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      • As for the other grandma, she’d be a pariah here in NZ – at least from the government and media.

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        • Sad but so true. The world needs more Alabama Grannies who know how to protect themselves and theirs, not less.

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      • Pythons are not native to the States either yet a monstrously huge Burmese Python was caught just the other day in Louisiansa I think it was. People getting rid of their overgrown pets by dumping them in the countryside in much the same way they dump unwanted cats round where I live. It is a constant battle to trap and shoot them and the SPCA don’t help one bit with their absurd “trap, neuter and release” policy for feral cats.

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        • I love cats but really they are already under anaesthetic to get fixed, a bit more and they would stay asleep.

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  5. Greg Murphy says what a crock of shit as Twyford recalibrates road toll measures.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/392929/vision-zero-plan-bamboozling-the-public-with-garbage-greg-murphy

    “I mean, that’s just ridiculous. What a stupid name for something that is not going to stop people from crashing,” Mr Murphy said.

    “[Transport Minister] Phil Twyford said we’ve been spending too much money on roads for decades, so I’m not quite sure how that’s all going to work when if they’re not going to spend any more money on roads, how are they going to engineer roads so that when people crash, they don’t die.

    “They are bamboozling the New Zealand public with garbage.”

    Mr Murphy said roads in New Zealand were not always safe, but more focus should be put on the actions of drivers.

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    • “Ministry of Transport put together five advisory groups as they prepare the road safety strategy for the next decade.”

      Five advisory groups….? I’d hate to see the true cost of all the advisory groups this CoL has got to do all the actual work for the Govt through this term!

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      • And if they are echo chambers what is the point and if they all differ who wins? Not us.

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      • It’s going to cost a fortune.
        200 working groups stuffed full of toadies.
        Only the tax group has reported back.
        The rest are still suck on the tit.
        What are they doing other than elction promises on the taxpayers dime?

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      • Who needs advisory groups? I’ll do it for free: 4- lane every damn state highway in NZ, starting 40 or 50 years ago. Wide median gaps with barriers totally prevent head-on collisions. Cost? Billions. Borrow the cash and get on with it! Shane’s nephs would have plenty of work.

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  6. Our local school has a paid union meeting today from about noon for all teachers to discuss the pay offer.

    Do you think they would arrange for this to happen after school hours? No, instead all the parents in the region have to make alternative arrangements for their children because the school buses run as normal and there are no after-school programmes starting that early.

    I’m letting her stay home today and expressed my displeasure at this in the absence notification. What little patience I had with the damn union and teachers have now evaporated.

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    • Well they couldn’t possibly have the meeting after school because everyone knows they have to race home and slave till the wee small hours marking homework and preparing for tomorrow’s lessons….. Yeah right.

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    • (FIANZ president Dr Mustafa Farouk) said meetings would be held with the Christchurch City Council, Ngāi Tahu and other interested parties.

      Start a GoFundMe page and see who is willing to pay for it? The Council and Ratepayers should not be your first stop.

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      • Not one single cent of taxpayers or rate payers funds should go towards this further enhancement of the already sickening virtue signalling. If there is to be a “memorial” it should be done by go fund me so that only those who want to pay for it can pick up the whole tab. A small brass plaque on some obscure back wall of the mosque should more than suffice IMO. I am so utterly sick of all things muslim and Islamic!

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    • I think it’s fairly obvious the taxpayer will pay for it!
      It will be constructed in lightning time (no expense spared) so Jacinda can throw on her Hijab and do some more photoshoots before the next Election….

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      • Well that will in all likelihood lose her the election if the opinions of my admittedly Islamophobic, gun owning friends and acquaintances is anything to go by.

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    • There is one thing about Christchurch City Councillors they certainly know how to milk things. First the earthquake, it was a terrible thing. But please let these things rest Every year they have memorials about it. Now this. The thought that there is going to be a memorial place for those that tragically died is all well and good, but seriously does it have to be this big and cost so much money? I suppose when its not your money you can spend willy nilly. This is just so over the top.

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      • “This is just so over the top.”

        It is meant to be. That clown Ardern has given the Muslims a massive, protected foothold in Christchurch, and they are definitely not going to waste it. As a retired Intelligence Officer said on a US forum when asked why Muslims kept building so many huge mosques all over the USA: “They are marking their territory; like dogs pissing on the lamp-posts.” This is the same.

        They are cunning enough to know that anyone who questions it will be instantly de-platformed, sacked, vilified and probably imprisoned for a ‘hate crime’; and the Government will fall over itself to approve and finance it without so much as a hint of analysis or question. Hereon, to paraphrase Orwell, the Muslims will be stamping their boots on the face of our country; just as they have in France, Sweden, Britain and all over Europe. Don’t our politicians read the News?

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    • I put up with it for a couple years under a super-asshole manager and team leader, and I had made enemies of them simply by sticking up for myself. I will not be bent over the boss’s desk! I hated the place, but loved the work I do. Many talented staff left because of those pricks. It motivated me to start a Ltd and work for myself, which I did and will never look back.

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      • Good man ducklin…being your own boss is hard work, but the up factor is..you are your own boss….?

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    • Most here dont comment there much anymore TM maybe you could give the team a shout out and let them know where free speech is truly available the mods have let it through before shouldn’t be a problem

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    • But just LAST WEEK we had a big guilt trip from the MSM how cruel we are for removing kids from worthless parents. 5 already removed from their custody? Welfare-fueled baby machine. Feral, hopeless losers that cost the taxpayer enormous $$$.

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      • To think that a seven year old comitted killed them selves to get away from that life!
        A seven yr old think that!

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        • Never fear, the “well-being” budget will solve all, by throwing ever more millions of dollars at more welfare schemes on top of the millions of dollars it already bleeds us of as it is. No Govt can fix stupid. Abysmal stats for the “victims of colonialism” are only getting worse under JA.

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      • The Mum is probably still in her 20s! She will likely have another decade of breeding to go yet….

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        • Let’s place bets on DNA tests- “Who’s your daddy?” 25 kids to 34 different low-lifes! New TAB sensation!

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          • I met a young lady once (through work) with five kids to four different Gangmembers!
            Oh and she was pregnant again as well…..

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    • Well they don’t like us much. I see even Short lad had moved over. Will have a lot more time on his hands now. Fewer people he needs to attack.

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    • I have taken to adding the Founding Document URL to lots of posts. Add it in FB right into the Nats. posts. Get the message out to them. Always have a comment about their lousy performance. Today it was the new shadow for police. Asked him why they rolled over and if they were going to commit to returning peoples property to them. (meaning guns of course).
      We should all do that.

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    • Hahahaha

      Gower finally replying with a comeback insult a full 2 and half minutes later, after the actual interview and video feed was over… Such quick wit there paddy hahahhaha

      That Leighton Baker had it all over all of the hosts, even about being gay not being a choice – “well kinda it is, you choose who you have sex with, so being gay is still kinda your choice when you think about it…” Hero of the day!

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      • Yes, awesome brain-power display by Gower there. I’d so love to fund Gower vs Southern and Molyneux round 2. Seeing Gower run, hide and duck for cover would be hilarious.

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    • How is it possible that Gower still has a job interviewing anyone other than a garden gnome, his level of intelligence, after embarrassing the whole country with his appalling interview with Molyneux and Southern? The man is an utter cockwomble to use Katie Hopkins delightful description.

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      • Gower is one of the trusted lefties, very good at parroting the ‘pardy’ line and too stupid to think through a proper argument. Paddy Gower, the proverbial weak link.

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        • A friend informs me that he is at least anti 1080 so that would seem to indicate that he has at least one functioning brain cell.

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      • He and that other leftie Campbell are “special friends” lol, hence the reason Gower was offended.

        How about Lauren Southern vs Gower in a boxing match? I’d bet she’s kick his ass!

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        • I’m not entirely sure Southern would win. Gower hasn’t got much of a working brain. Gower’s strategy could mimic that of Homer Simpson…by letting Southern exhaust himself by trying to knock Gower out and then Gower could simply push Southern over.

          (Southern changed her biology to male a few years back)

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        • Yikes that not a reach around i want to envisage although being lefties they would probably be going for each others wallets at the same time

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    • The supposed moral argument is Folau is believed to be worth $10m. Therefore, he should be paying for the legal fight out of his own pocket.

      Firstly, you have no idea what his financial worth is, you’re guessing. It’s entirely possible that Folau spent unwisely and has next to nothing. It’s not that uncommon a situation amongst top athletes.

      Secondly, even if he has been investing it, why should he pay for it when he knows his supporters will come to his aid? I cannot see this as a moral point in the slightest. Is making money immoral? If it is, why do those newsanchors draw an income from their job? It isn’t as if Folau has been deceptful about his fundraising campaign.

      Thirdly, it helps advertise or highlight his position. This is IMO the most important element. While I don’t care about Folau’s religious views, I’m more than happy to support his right to say them. That’s what freedom of speech (and religion) is all about. Freedom of speech isn’t about supporting the speech you like, it’s about supporting the speech you don’t like.

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      • Some bint on the radio yesterday breaking down his possessions going on about his car being worth 50K like what so special about that my daily runner was nearly 40 it’s all just envy & spite and them boring us with their sick ideology and their inflated opinions of themselves instead of just reporting the news these prick want to be part of it, Gower is a prime example

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  7. Primary teachers and Principals should announce today whether they will accept the taxpayers pay offer.
    Teachers claim they don’t get 13 weeks holiday a year, and when school is closed for the holidays they’re all working away at preparing and marking stuff – at home (because the school car park is empty).
    Can anyone then explain why a ‘teacher only day’ might be necessary on the Friday before the school holidays? Won’t they already have ten non student contact days?
    Someone is taking the michael.

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    • “Can anyone then explain why a ‘teacher only day’ might be necessary on the Friday before the school holidays? ”

      A nice lunch followed by some bubbles to ease into holiday mode..
      It’s tough work being a Teacher you know?

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      • To prepare for the next term obviously! Teachers work 25 hours a day and 8 days a week, don’t you know?

        And if they don’t get that ‘teacher only day’, your children are going to suffer.

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        • For an extra 1.5b They don’t even try to be subtle.
          They already start school half hour later on Friday morning because … planning or something.
          That doesn’t make a mess in a working household at all //

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    • Nope, half a day off today to talk about pay settlement as well. The school holidays are less than a week away and they decide to sock parents with an extra half day off work.

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  8. Interesting comment on GP this morning to a Labour MP complaining about the muslims in Birmingham protesting LGBT stuff being taught to their primary school age children. For once the majority is firmly on the side of the invaders.

    formyle of ceres • 18 minutes ago

    You imported the fuckers you mong. You’re like those parents who have a small child and decide to buy a pit bull despite everyone telling you not to then weep and wail when it tears the kids face off

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    • “You’re like those parents who have a small child and decide to buy a pit bull despite everyone telling you not to then weep and wail when it tears the kids face off”

      That’s brilliant- Permission to use it when the inevitable happens here in New Zealand?

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  9. Holy, you may want to investigate making a robots.txt file. I think this site is getting smashed by the various bots, like Google.

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      • Not hacking. It’s quite common for search engines to send bots out to index and archive websites. With fora styled websites, the contents of the website can rabidly change and so you’ll get regular visitations from them. Unfortunately, Google & Co. don’t bother with one bot each. They might send thousands out and when I could be bothered running a forum they all seemed to love doing it at the same time.

        robots.txt is a way of telling these bots to eff off from certain directories. Of course, adhering to robots.txt is a voluntary action but Google & Co. generally respect the contents of said file. Hostile entities will ignore this file.

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  10. There is something wrong with the load speeds again. Please bear with it. We are working on it again.
    Our popularity might be pissing off someone or something. I will look at off shore hosting . any suggestions?

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    • While denial of service attacks might be a possibility, I suspect you’re getting inundated with bots, especially Google (I don’t have your ability to view so that’s me guessing from experience). Google (etc) will be indexing and archiving YSB. Unfortunately, they can be excessively aggressive about it.

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      • They never did resile from their 2000 hits on the Treasury site perpetuated by National. Do you think that number of hits on ysb?

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        • It’s what I thought of when the CoL were blaming their incompetence on National. I was wondering whether Google, Yahoo etc were indexing and archiving new material that Treasury had put up at the time. I certainly didn’t jump to the nefarious conclusion the media were hoping to draw from the ignorant.

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        • I probably wouldn’t bother at the moment, if you are running into loading issues because ysb is becoming super popular, then I’d look at it.
          Until then shared hosting would be sufficient.

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        • Used Hostgator for years. Speeds really good these days and some good protection programs. Have you got XML sitemap, WP Minify, WP Supercache, TinyMCE advanced, Google webmaster tools. Add then all and see what happens.

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          • Same, been with Hostgator since 2001, still locked into the same, hood value plan and all they’ve done is up what I get for the same fee.

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    • I noticed that too; unfortunately I’m too computer-ignorant to be able to offer suggestions

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      • I’m fairly sure I’m right with the bots. That it hits for a (short) time and goes away daily is indicative of them.

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    • Depends how much you want to pay. Amazon and Microsoft Azure have datacentres in Sydney. I use Digitalocean which the nearest is US hosted. If you are having trouble with DDOS then there are distributed front ends like Cloudfare and Incapsula but they cost.

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  11. Not that it matters, and I know that I am responsible for a lot lol, but no links so far to the Herald.

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    • Someone has to do the hard yards for those of us that dont watch or listen to much our poxy media has to say so your links are very much appreciated Rachael

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  12. Bill banning smoking in cars ‘awful’ and needs work – National
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/392943/bill-banning-smoking-in-cars-awful-and-needs-work-national
    “A bill that would ban smoking in cars with children inside needs a major tune up, the National Party says.
    It would allow police to issue $50 fines for those smoking with passengers under 18 years of age, though fines would not be enforced until 18 months after the bill passed into law.
    National Party health spokesperson Michael Woodhouse said that despite his party voting for the bill, it did little to actually discourage people.
    He said the fine was not enough to moderate habits”.

    Oh shit the headline of the article actually got me enthusiastic that National was actually going to take a stand against another stupid nanny state piece of legislation.
    But low and behold, instead of calling for it to be abandoned they are whinging because they actually think people should be punished more severely than the legislation allows.
    For god sake you bunch of spineless lefty wimps you are supposed to be a party of free choice yet you are just about more authoritarian than Labour.
    The whole lot of you should be ashamed.

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    • To be fair the children in the car don’t have a choice. What is 50$, two packs of smokes?

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      • This is just another instalment in the governments ongoing obsession with smokers.
        The legislation is nothing more than feel good seen to be doing something crap because if it passes apparently people will miraculously stop smoking in their car because the big bad government says it’s illegal but meanwhile inside their house life will go on as normal with dope and tobacco smoke being blown into the kids face while giving him the bash before bed time.

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        • Well you do what you can do, how is it not child abuse, it is also going to have an influence on whether those kids will become smokers in their stead, so how isn’t it preventative and a good thing at the top f the cliff, if it works the smokers will smoke less which will cost less. it seems a win-win to me.

          Should smokers be charged with child abuse alongside of or in replacement of the fine?

          Ex-smoker here and ex- seller of smokes too.

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          • To put my point simply.
            In this day and age people who smoke but are good caring parents more than likely don’t smoke around their kids already.
            Parents who are useless feral sacks of shit will do this and will carry on doing this regardless of what the government says.
            So basically you are trying to show you are doing something when in effect you are probably achieving very little apart from wasting taxpayers money by having this bill go through parliament.

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      • Saw a child loose in the back seat as a car drove away the other day. There are worse neglect than smoking, although I personally abhor being trapped anywhere in an enclosed space with a smelly smoker!

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      • Liberty as long as you don’t harm others, especially people who have no option to avoid it. Then consequences. Same reason you can’t screw a sheep, much as the Aussies would like to, because the sheep can’t say “Yeees, Aaardern”

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    • The amusing part is i think National still expect our votes did they not think their supporters would realise they are only a slicker version of the pathetic mob in power now and they are actively supporting the punishing of its citizens by marxist scum

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      • On this one I agree with them, second-hand smoke effects children, at least at home there will be some places where the smoke is not so pervasive, in a car, there is no escaping it. What is ridiculous is that there should need to be a law.

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        • The stupid part is how do they enforce it?
          Get the kids to pimp the parents?
          Din’t the Nazis do that with the Jews?

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          • Well, it is obvious if someone has been smoking in the car when/if they are pulled over for something else. It just seems like an awareness campaign with the force of law.

            I’m sure that I will survive being the wilderness voice on this one. People seem to need to be legislated against bashing their kids to death too, as ridiculous as that may seem.

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        • Under this proposal children are exempt, so they can smoke in cars but their parents can’t. LoL.

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    • When I was a kid my parents’ ashtrays were overflowing at all times. I can remember my mother smoking in the grocery store, and in movie theaters. Times have certainly changed, but the Govt can shove their do-gooder bullshit where the sun don’t shine. I don’t need them to tell me it’s no longer acceptable to smoke like a chimney in your kids’ faces.

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      • Family trips to the Coromandel, 4 kids in the back of the Fairmont, aircon on, windows up, Mum chain smoking away (old man has never smoked)… Great times! Infact the old girl kept smoking through all 5 pregnancies and sad to suffice, my siblings & I are all ok. Only 2 siblings took up the habit, 3 of us haven’t touched them, but each to their own.

        Everything will kill you. Be naughty and enjoy your vice, it could be all over tomorrow on a lime scooter anyway!

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      • Of course. That will take it past the next election.
        They may be fucking dumb but they ain’t silly.

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  13. What would make a huge difference to your site is if you didn’t have to load a month’s worth of posts and images on your home page every time you visit your site.
    3-5 days worth max is about all you want, you’re running out of bandwidth which is making the site so slow.

    Heres a video on what to do

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOaQw8Pz3SU

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  14. Re the Maori guy who got 4 years for robbing the dairy for cigarettes.
    He was either desperate for a smoke or stealing them to re-sell.
    Do we know if he had a job
    because if he had a full time job, then he would be able to afford cigarettes.
    But if you are on a benefit, then you should not expect to be able to drink, or smoke or have a car or any other luxuries.

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    • Is a car a luxury? I didn’t really get my first car until I was 25 which is when I got a licence. I technically owned cars with my husband. So I was carless for 7 years, my mother used to ferry my son places but we used to walk in Hamilton even from Hamilton East to Frankton, my son playing in the founder’s theatre fountain.
      Is that practical today? Accepted groceries can be delivered, and schools should be within walking distance.

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    • Go without your drink or smokes, etc. Silly DigNap, self-control is only for righties! // ?

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    • Gangs have their prospects do that kind of dirty work Dig its a common way for them to start earning their patch, of course he could just be a feral mongrel

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  15. https://www.vice.com/en_nz/article/nexn5d/we-asked-the-mongrel-mob-whats-behind-the-nz-gangs-obsession-with-nazi-symbolism I don’t really equate mobsters with bikes but there you go.

    The Mongrel Mob’s detachment from the origins of Nazi symbolism was made clear in Napier District Court in 2011. An associate to the gang was arrested for disorderly behaviour after screaming the words “Sieg Heil” and other abuse at police on New Year’s Eve. But when the judge quizzed him about what the phrase actually meant, he insisted it was “just another way of saying hi to the bros”.

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    • So he was calling the police his bros? Nothing for Muslims to be offended about then, they can be bros too.

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      • That might depend on just how dark the MM member is most of them look like they could just as easily belong to the skinheads these days

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  16. I am sick of hearing of Maori academics on the radio blaming all of Maoridoms problems on colonization and racism.
    Why don’t they tell the truth and blame their own people.
    Get out of the gutter.
    Have some pride and ambition and work ethic.
    Get a job
    Stay at school
    Learn to speak English properly
    Stop being violent
    Don’t join a gang, join the boy scouts or the guides.

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    • Hey! Prior to the white man, Maori lived in paradise. There was no slavery, cannibalism, strife, crime nor warfare. Food fluttered down from the heavens. Dying before the age of 200 was unheard of.

      They totally did not wipe out any species as they were all vegans that smoked dope.

      They had advanced airwave technology as well as space technology (to the end of the universe). They even had the cure for cancer.

      This was all due to Moa turds Vibranium their affinity with Moon-beams.

      They absolutely won the Maori New Zealand Land wars against the Pakeha. It was by winning the wars that caused them to have their land confiscated. (I have no idea how this works but ask Belich since this is the complete truth).

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      • Not to mention ‘Matariki’.
        Maori invented Astronomy….Well before any other Culture (If the guy on TV this morning was to be believed)

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    • At 50 im now less concerned with stds and a lot more concerned with the permanent dose of shits this COL is giving me

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    • I’m amazed the anti-liberty Farrar permitted it. He’s so in love with Ardern’s gun grab…but perhaps it’s dawned on him that the CoL have done this poorly.

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      • Not according to Minister nash. Thousands of phone calls are running 80% in favour. fucking wanker. Better still he will use the police to enforce the law.
        Well, good luck with that. They can’t even clear the gangs and their meth.

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        • Chris Bishop reckoned that his electorate was full of praise too. Mind you he didn’t have much of a majority and it used to be Trevor’s seat. His leftovers to a degree.

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    • I’d noticed KB has been deafening silent on anything gun law or gun buy-back since it all got passed into the (soon to be big pile of) shit…

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  17. One principal has realised accepting the $150 per student is a poisoned chalice. It might have been easy for Michael Williams to predict this since his school would be out of pocket in the first year. What many won’t realise, if they accept this bribe, is that it will become worth-less over time.

    Still, the schools have longed bent the knee to the government.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/how-scrapping-donations-could-leave-schools-worse-off/ar-AADqFwk?ocid=spartandhp

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    • Apparently, asking parents to pay for school camp fees is accepting a donation and therefore will disqualify schools from the bribe.
      Mind you I have seen nothing that says the schools can’t accept koha. I imagine that’s the way they will go. Want school camp that will be a koha of $300.00 thankyou now Johnny and Lucy can go.

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  18. And if you were somehow led to believe the teacher strikes were about getting a better education for our children, well the principals rejecting the offer smashes that idea to bits. (It’s about money).

    “Potentially principals in these smaller schools will be earning less than teachers in larger schools in leadership roles.

    IOW, greedy small-time principals cannot be earning less than mere teachers.

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  19. Ardern, question time today under pressure from SB
    “..umm..errr..well..umm..ahhh…I dont have those figures..umm”

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    • She never does have those figures. It allows her to ignore reality.

      It was a tactic I saw Jay Carney (for Obama) wield will incredible skill. By not knowing anything, Obama couldn’t be drawn (easily) into any scandals around his presidency. He knew nothing and therefore couldn’t answer any tricky questions (or questions). He knew even less than Sergeant Schultz.

      I can only guess that Ardern uses the same strategy.

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    • Cindy pretending she understands the economy… It’s international pressures.
      Yeah, sure it is Cindy.

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    • Did she up and leave when the pressure went on? Or did Mallard step in to save his beloved leader??
      Jacinda Ardern is the most pathetic excuse for a Prime Minister I have ever seen

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    • She should go as making stupid foot in your mouth statements like that proves she is way beyond her expiry date.

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  20. Māori leaders to launch fourth inquiry into Oranga Tamariki
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/392968/maori-leaders-to-launch-fourth-inquiry-into-oranga-tamariki
    “Prominent Māori leaders are set to launch their own inquiry into Oranga Tamariki.
    There are systemic failures that are seeing tamariki taken from their whānau, from their whakapapa connections, from their whole sense of who they are. Their identity is left in tatters, this is the creation of a lost generation.”

    Yeah nice exercise in diversion there guys to try and put the spotlight on CYFS and take it off Maori themselves and why the numerous “whanau orientated” approaches don’t seem to be stopping their kids getting bashed to death.
    For slow learners like the group above I will share a secret of how to go through life without getting your kids removed by those evil racists at CYFS.
    Feed them, care for them, love them.
    How hard is that.

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    • “For slow learners like the group above I will share a secret of how to go through life without getting your kids removed by those evil racists at CYFS.
      Feed them, care for them, love them.
      How hard is that.?”

      I’d like to add-
      DON’T put them in clothes dryers or hang them on washing lines.
      DON’T feel them dog shit for fun.

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      • Nothing is going to change until the tribal elders want it too!
        But the tribal elders are doing half the evil shit to the bloody poor kids!!!
        So they willn ot be in a hurry to change!
        It’s bad when a 7yr old commits suicde to get away from a shit life!
        How does a 7yr old know about suicde!

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  21. Did you not read Alice’s comment earlier? Ardern now wants to be known by her muslim name, Cindy bin Lying.

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  22. How about we donate all the semi autos that are handed in, and there will be several thousand of them I’m sure, to white South Africans. Their need is arguably greater than ours at least for the time being and we could be sure they would be put to good use in the coming months and years. It would be the utmost folly and stupidity to wantonly destroy good quality firearms when there are those who need them badly.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a3sFbHHYMA

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  23. Lateral thinking? make a law stating that a beer festival can’t bring their own beer and must buy it locally, and then the town buys all of the local beer to stop the neo nazis.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12244047
    The festival goers had already been banned from bringing their own beer after a local court ordered the venue be made a dry zone for safety reasons, after ruling the festival had an “aggressive nature”.

    Police confiscated more than 4,000 litres of beer from far-Right supporters as they arrived, and no sales were allowed at the venue.

    Thirsty festival-goers began heading into town in search of a drink, so locals decided to buy out the only supermarket’s stock of beer.

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  24. https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/06/kiwibuild-yet-another-failure-revealed.html

    Newshub can reveal yet another factor in the failure of KiwiBuild: Housing New Zealand (HNZ) has not delivered on its targets.

    The KiwiBuild policy is undergoing a massive shakeup after it failed to meet its initial targets. Just 151 houses of this year’s expected 1000 have been built so far.

    Documents obtained by Newshub show another part of the policy that’s faltered. HNZ was supposed to build 200 homes by July – but they’ve only completed 30.

    A KiwiBuild spokesperson told Newshub HNZ has more under construction.

    “In addition to the 30 KiwiBuild homes built by HNZ at McLennan, which are all sold, another 58 homes at

    McLennan are nearing completion and these will be going on the market soon.

    We have also announced the 68 being built by HNZ at Marfell, where construction is underway, and HNZ have construction underway at another development that will be announced soon.”

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    • I joined ACT two days ago and wrote in no uncertain terms to Simon Bridges telling him why.

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    • …..” it’s a total spit in the face for the LGBT community.”…..

      Try to think of it more as a pack of religious nutters who are throwing their toys & money out of the cot because their hero is a simple wanker who wants others to be persecuted by 2000 year old Skyfairy dictates dreamt up by a pack of ignorant goat herders who thought the Earth was 4000 years old.

      Nutters so stupid & yet so gullible who believe that their imaginary friend bequeaths them the right to run other’s lives.

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      • I read a lot of Labour-like control into that post. Is that really what you meant?

        He’s not forcing anyone to do anything. He was simply stating his beliefs. Others are trying to silence him. They are the nutters who believe nobody can say anything critical of them and who haven’t yet learned to just change the channel or shake their heads and move along.

        Bloody snowflakes that can’t handle a different view.

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      • When fighting a war it is a far better tactic to take aim at the targets immediately in front of you.

        In this case a pig ignorant Christian is in the crosshairs. When the Muslims extend the begging bowl to promote jahannam we’ll have a crack at them too.

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    • You don’t belong here. It is totally about his right to freely speak what he believes, just as others do. If that offends then you have no rights to be not offended. You may not like it and that’s your choice but you don’t have any right to silence others who have the right to say what they like.
      Tough life out there.

      You totally have the right to disagree but then so does he. So if you disagree then you have the right to your say but no right to force a silence upon anyone.

      Simple enough. Ignore stuff you don’t want to hear.

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  25. If there’s any one of you out of work don’t think of yourself as being “unemployed”.

    Rather, think of yourself as a highly trained back-up in case the entire Human Rights Commission is wiped out in a plane crash.

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    • I saw that report on our deteriorating road surfaces a few days ago and truckies asked to send in photos. It seems NZTA are not prioritising repair work.

      I heard the reason the southern Hamilton motorway connection is taking so long to complete is due to many road workers have gone overseas to find work due to the cancellation of any further motorway systems in NZ by the COL. Damn, those consequences to the COL’s decision making keep happening!

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  26. Judith Collins says ”Firearms owners can bugger off”. If you are one, take her advice, bugger off from National and vote for someone like David Seymour. I will harp on about this for the next year or so.

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  27. I want to buy a bicycle now too, preferably second hand. I’ll keep it in my shed, not going to really ride anywhere until those pinko cycle lanes come closer to home. I think it may be therapeutic and good for overall mental health, what do you reckon?

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    • I know a lot of people who are going to keep their bicycles and sure as hell are not going to give them away for a pittance.

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      • Well, you can find plenty of bike paths to practice on. Are we going to be overcome by bike envy?

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    • I’ve got a 3 wheeled electric mobility scooter. goes well but am going to sell it on trade me. I haven’t used it in 18 months, so am flicking it.

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      • Does it have those extra dangerous knobbly tyres and is it automatic? If so Trade Me probably won’t allow you to list it.

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    • I’ve got three.
      I mainly use the hybrid.
      The road bike is designed for flat out no stopping with flimsy brakes so I don’t use it much now.
      You need good open road starting at least 50 km from central Akl.

      A Hybrid will have wider tyres and disk brakes for decent stopping. More upright seated position. Usually 3 x 6 or 7 or 8 speed so 18 to 24 speed.
      You can get one new starting at around $500 from the Bike Barn. Plenty of competition as well.
      Torpedo 7 tend to offer prices 2.5 times realistic and you only buy on special – the trick Kathmandu have used for years.
      This time of the year there are some good prices.

      Add in a Helmet (Start from $40); always wear glasses for eye protection; select a comfortable seat; high viz vest; gloves are good and stop sunburn on the top of your hands; get water bottle rack and fitting bottle- 750 ml H2Go could do; footwear and padded trousers your choice; lights to suit a basic rear red from $10, lot of variety in white front light. Repair kit and pump. Floor pump is better but can’t take with you.
      Get a cable lock with combo and at least 1.2 mtr long. Start at $10 on special.
      If you buy new and store it well, it will last years.

      You could get a basic bike rack and take the bike on your car to a cycle path. Start at $40 (very basic) online. These can attach to the car rear door without a tow bar.

      You could go e-bike starting at around $1200 basic.

      Plenty of options.

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  28. Has the Royal New Zealand Navy been deployed to counter the prolific smuggling of cocaine and meth across the Pacific.
    Do the chardonnay socialists like their nose salt delivered by the yacht load more than being a responsible power in our regional neighbourhood.
    Please correct me if we are patrolling against this scourge.

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  29. Is it really good news that we have slipped down the rankings?
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12244028

    The cost of living in New Zealand’s largest cities has taken a tumble in the latest world rankings as other international cities climb the ranks.

    This is the second year in a row Auckland and Wellington have fallen in Mercer’s annual cost of living rankings – largely due to fluctuations in the currency, placing the country’s most expensive city in 89th place and Wellington in 114th.

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    • This is the worst thing that happened to ACT.
      I’m not strong on Euthansia either way
      But it is associated with David Seymour.
      So all the attention goes on him due to that.
      Instead of all their other policies.
      There is no way that Act will get a surge in the polls, like we all wish.

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  30. Rachael, posting new topics the early evening on YSB seems to be a waste of time.
    You should re-post them in the morning spread out over a few days. (jmho)

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