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  1. Good morning Ed, might be worth a chat with your ISP, noticed yesterday as discussed by others, people had old cache coming up even when cleared, on my iPad starts with old cache, it reverts to new information once I log in and works fine. Cheers.

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    • Don’t know about that Happy they pen the odd eye opener then revert to form pretty damn quickly especially if Neves managed another baby miracle like burping or something just as inane

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  2. Looks like Auckland might fill its dams before it has to drink the Waikato water direct from Taupo. does the sewer water get evenly distributed or do the knobs have their own supply of fresh spring water?
    What a cock up.

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      • Yes okay, we all know that unless a complete imbecile.
        Happy 4th of July to our Ducklin, our favourite Yank, ?

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        • That’s made my day thank you! I haven’t been on US soil for a 4th of July since 2003, but I was there for Thanksgiving in 2015. Two of the best days you could be there.

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          • I’ve always been impressed with the pomp and ceremony of American parades! Flags and floats with lots of colour. A big fat celebration. In comparison NZ parades are very lightweight and disappointing.

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              • NZ should be every bit as proud as Americans. This little country is fantastic with great people, and I’ve always found “we don’t know how lucky we are” to be 100% accurate. This Yank is proud to call NZ home.

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            • What parades? the fun police and PC councils and all their lefty fucking hangers-on have buggered most parades.

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        • It tends to get a chuckle out of most Yanks (all Americans are Northerners to us) that I’ve told it too.

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    • So will our media show the thousands of wonderful events the yanks put on for the occasion or will they focus on something Trump might have done like a spelling mistake in his tweet or will they ignore the event like any good left wing media should

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      • You can be sure there will be anti-American protests, even on a sacred day. You’ll probably read shit like “BBQ’s and fireworks are increasing climate change”!!

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    • Countless thousands will be getting ready to go apeshit tomorrow with fireworks and booze. It really is a fun time to be there. Last I knew there were only 4 States where fireworks are legal. My dad used to drive to the Wyoming border and buy a bootload of goodies to bring back into Colorado.

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      • Washington DC’s fireworks display will be twice as long tomorrow at Trumps epic 4th of July celebrations as 2 fireworks companies have donated a large supply of fireworks!

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          • TV3 panel and Duncan were at it already. Duncan says President “Trump is warmongering showing off his military hardware” and some bloke reckons the Trump baby blimp should be flown, and he and the other chick reckoned AOC is MARVELLOUS!!!!! ?

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            • Brilliant should be in every news media publication . People only support AOC because she is so stupid and they don’t feel she is above them, democrats are like that look at their presidents and Vice Presidents.

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    • Nice to hear that in NZ waikatogirl! May the USA survive political correctness! God bless the USA 🙂

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    • It would have been hilarious.
      Little falls into the net of expecting respect as he will never earn it off his own merits.

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    • Would you look at the dead eyes on the pillock if he ever had a soul it has long departed

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    • Have to get the cols attention somehow. Who is the pompous prick you wrote about? I’d have to say it was Little man himself, I was going to say the most pompous of all but there are a lot in the col trying for that position.

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    • I couldn’t believe the ‘rude’ café even made it into the news. I guess the media is desperate for ‘hard-done-by’ stories.

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      • If the pies are as good as they say, I could care less if the owner’s a rude cow. Gimme a pie dammit!

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        • Burliegh pies in Blenhiem is moving from it’s corner position as the councli is going to put in a rounabout. You know how much room a roundabout takes up and they can the parking for miles either side. No parking, no sales, as they rely on the passing trade to stop off for munchies!

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        • There’s ‘not great with people’ and there’s being taunted and bullied by some entitled attention-seeking feral human. The Springfield woman could hardly have walked out of her own cafe, but the customer with the foul mouth followed her around the place filming and threatening the owner when she and her entourage had the option to leave any time they wanted. It was like watching a cat play with a live mouse.
          Feral cats should be exterminated in my view, feral humans ….

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    • Yell at the wall Little. Google may be naughty, but you ain’t got a show in hell of bringing them to their knees. How come Grace’s killer isn’t on trial by now? Let the beheading commence.

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      • The media hysteria around Grace’s killer is basically all a result of the name suppression bullshit itself. Much like Tarrants video & manifesto, or that big red button that says DANGER DO NUT PUSH, tell someone they cant know/see/touch something, guess what most people then go and do…?

        side note, had a chat with a mutual acquaintance who played softball a few years ago with a guy, who was not popular among the rest of the team. Creepy & disturbing were among the niceties used to support the other players feelings about him.

        He wont last a month in the community if he is acquitted/not guilty of the Milane killing.

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    • So where are they going to get the money from,jacinda would have used it for her captains calls and climate change.

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    • I found this bit interesting:

      For example, our transport and urban infrastructure is struggling to keep up with population growth and increased demand, and parts of our water network are over 100 years old.

      In some areas, it’s worse than that…dating back to the Victorian era (19th century).

      This is the fault of successive councils not keeping to their knitting. Instead of doing the basics, mayors want ratepayers’ money to fund their boondoggles. And, I have to say the bulk of ratepayers shoulder some of that blame…insisting on electing grandiose mayors instead of pragmatic ones.

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      • Well said Colinxy (oops almost shortened that to Col) we bitch & moan that our basic infrastructure is going to the dogs yet we keep electing idiots that want to focus on everything but that, add in a vanity project or 2 and there’s another 5-10 years of neglect compounding since forever yet this is somehow all of a sudden shocking news

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    • Gee I Thought it would have been called Te Waihanga only!

      New Zealand Infrastructure Commission – Te Waihanga.

      Did Maori have infrastructure.
      They were good navigators, astronomers, doctors, builders, writers, musicians, historians,

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    • Thats interesting .THe Governor of the Reserve Bank in Australia was making similar noises after cutting their OCR to 1 per cent yesterday.
      I think the experts have run out of ideas and that cutting interest rates is having unintended consequences.
      My advice would be to lift them.

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      • Watch the housing market take off. Interest rates as low as 3.7% for 2 year fixed… they are only heading in one direction..south. I can see rates of sub 3% within the next 12 months.

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  3. NZ finds out the hard way (as have most other teams in recent years) that appointing a captain because he’s the best batsman is not always best policy.

    Where, oh where, is the new B Mac?

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      • In defence of Howarth he was there initially on merit but there is no argument he retained his position due to his excellent captaincy skills.

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  4. President Trump’s Plans for USA Independance Day Celebrations:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-july-4th-salute-to-america-parade-washington-dc-independence-day-2019-07-02/

    “President Trump is throwing a Fourth of July celebration that he’s promising will be “like no other.” Enamored of military processions like the annual Bastille Day parade in France, Mr. Trump has sought to incorporate military hardware into U.S. Independence Day observances in Washington, too. ”

    It’s going to be spectacular!

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      • Love that Tweet, get’s better everytime I see it!
        Trump is not a run-of-the-mill politician and it drives the swamp and it’s supporters crazy!!!

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    • Love it! It was cool seeing military aircraft on a daily basis when I was a kid growing up near a NASA/Navy base.

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      • NZ used to see Skyhawks flying over before Helen mothballed them. One of my childhood memories lying on summer lawn watching Skyhawks zip overhead. Fantastic sight. Saw the Skyhawk close up, other military planes, etc when we visited the Airforce Museum at Wigram a few years ago. Excellent place to visit if you are ever in Christchurch.

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          • Your kids will love it. There is a plane to sit in and a mock up of a prisoner of war camp with sound included so you can get a sense of what it was like. Cleverly done.

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    • “USA!..USA.!.USA! ” God bless America and Donald Trump! I miss my old ‘vette. (sad face)

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  5. Thank goodness for Sky Australia – skewering Climate Apocalyptics again

    Maybe the pendulum is swinging back. Sky Australia’s at it again – pointing out the lunacy of the left and the globalist’s climate tax scam.

    Where one major network can go – hopefully others will follow.

    Marxism needs abject poverty to flourish, so what do you do if you are a marxist and there isn’t any poverty? You either lie about it existing, or you get to work (like socialist Cindy) and you create poverty (in this case we’re talking about energy poverty. Energy poverty is created where you use a fictional apocalyptic threat to make energy so expensive it becomes unaffordable – viola!

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  6. I agree, it is a Leftist meme.

    Some of the greediest individuals in the world are the poor: their greed is often the cause of their ‘poverty’. For example, they refuse to do labour (work) when they can collect the dole instead. They do a cost benefit analysis of whether a job will pay enough to offset the advantages of getting ‘free’ money off the taxpayer.

    Another example: the poor are over-represented in committing crime. What is greedier? Saving up to buy a TV or simply nicking one?

    Another example: what is greedier? Earning your own money or demanding the ‘rich’ pay for your lifestyle?

    I could go on.

    That’s not to say all poor are like this but there is a significant proportion that are. I have sympathy for those who are poor through misfortune (e.g. a genuine accident).

    Another aspect of poverty is gifting them stuff is often detrimental. Even Bono of U2 has figured that one out. Giving poor nations free food, for example, actually destroys their economy. Farmers cannot compete with free food, so they stop farming and go to where the free food is. The industries that supplied the farmers go bust since the farmers are gone, so they go to the city for free food as well. These acts of charity actually keeps them chained to poverty.

    War, while unpleasant is a necessity. Even if it’s the threat of war. As the Romans said: “If you want peace, prepare for war”.

    Injustice typically means “social” justice is required. Still, this probably a category I could broadly agree with a Leftist over, just not their definition of it. I don’t like to see privilege as a defence: for example, being the Maori King’s son and getting off drink-driving and theft convictions because it might jeopardise his chances of being the Maori king in the future (thanks Phillipa Cunningham).

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  7. Successful Deradicalisation program maybe did not include golf lessons or barbecues with the friendly judge.
    …. man arrested over the alleged terror plot to attack Sydney landmarks had been involved in a deradicalisation program just last year. ….
    ….. number of targets, including police stations, defence establishments, embassies and councils, courts and churches,’ ….
    …. discussions around importing firearms and explosives to carry out those attacks…
    …. was encouraged to join ISIS in Syria by a Sydney charity . ….
    …. educated at the Australian Islamic College and prayed at Rooty Hill Mosque. ….
    ….alleged plot was the 16th police had foiled since the terror threat level was raised in 2014. ….

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7205357/Wannabe-ISIS-warrior-arrested-plan-blow-landmarks-deradicalisation-program.html

    Sounds like a great charitable organisation in Sydney, but not so hot in the Deradicalisation Programs.

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    • Maybe they didn’t show enough lovez or feelz. Animals can pick up on these type of things, didn’t you know?

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    • Good job this inbred looking dick & mobile trash bags didn’t watch the Ch CH mosque video then they might be in real trouble

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    • Sorry I upticked in error!
      There should be no heating either, bring your own blankets.
      Make it hard so the word will get round!
      Do the crime – do the time!

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      • Yeah, but NZ signed up to that “non-binding” UN agreement to the minimum standards for the treatment of prisoners, so you’re out of luck hoping for those.

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        • What about countries like Brasil where prisons are really bad.
          Or Thailand where have have to supply your own food (family that is)
          Are they in the United Nations?

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    • Land is the usually the single biggest factor in house prices in NZ. We also have numerous regulations ($$$) to get through to build or purchase.

      Incomprehensibly to our dimwits in government, a CGT does not lower house prices.

      I have been interested in investing in 3D house printing (I’ve not done so) because that might make housing far more affordable: ignoring land prices and stupid regulations.

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      • yes I agree land cost is a biggie.
        But I bet the building cost per sq metre in the USA is far lower than here.

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        • I don’t know enough about the raw cost of labour and materials to comment. As in I don’t know if our ‘value-add’ regulations, general pricing or both are at fault in comparison to the US.

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    • That and the banks (including the Reserve Bank) would go apoplectic: our currency for all intents and purposes is valued against our houses.

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      • No, what would happen is people would leave their keys in the front door and walk away when the value of their house is worth less than the mortgage.

        This has happened in the past in other countries. It would happen here.

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        • Walk away where to? Bongo vans will be in short supply, motels will be full and the govt will be broke.

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        • Would it? If you can still make the mortgage payments, which might be cheaper than rent somewhere else, why would you walk away? Even if more than rent, you are still paying off an asset.

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          • I had an acquaintance pick up a cheap house that way in the outskirts of Edinburgh. The house keys were actually in the front door lock. This was back in the early 90s from memory.

            Similar things happened in Detroit and Chicago.

            Where do they go? I don’t honestly know.

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            • Tent cities in many cases. If you lose your job and can’t pay the mortgage, a lot of Americans ended up living on the streets.

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      • I always thought that clause in mortgages is very unfair.
        The buyer bought the houses as they were given a valuatin.
        The bank leant the money, as they were given a valuation.
        If the house drops in value it is none of their faults.
        As long as the person keeps paying the morgate, whats the problem?

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        • It comes down to logistics and ethics.

          If you bought a $1m place with say a $800k mortgage and the house devalued the next year by half (s0 $500k worth), and your mortgage was still $800k, are you really going to pay that extra $300k (plus interest) or are you going to default and let the bank wear it? Especially as the next year your house might be worth even less (and so on and so forth).

          Most people it seems choose to let the bank wear it.

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    • My house doubled in “value” in the space of 2 or 3 years from 2014 to 2016.
      I would not like it to drop back to its 2014 value but a gradual decline in house prices would help our young ones, and those without a home.
      It would not affect me.

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  8. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/113731528/open-letter-oranga-tamariki-social-workers-in-terrible-almost-untenable-position

    I have to admit I found this letter published yesterday a very valuable insight into the ethos and mindset of an average NZ social worker.
    The unexpected result for me however was that after reading it all sympathy I previously had for them as the meat in the sandwich had completely evaporated.
    It is quite apparent from what they said and the language used in the letter(repeated use of Aotearoa) that most of these people only got into this job because they already viewed their “clients” as victims who had been marginalised and that they believed they shared a common ideological position with them.
    Well seems you were wrong so if the “victims” you were trying to help now turn on you and try to wreck you as well as their kids then suck it up.
    Just proves the “clients” are nothing more than worthless trash and also shows that alot of the social workers are a bunch of do gooding hand clappers who probably would be more suited to saving orphans in India.

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    • Yes, as I said yesterday 4 years of mumbo jumbo courses. What use do they do.
      Sack them all
      Maori are such caring living people.
      Let them look after their own.
      Can the dpb.
      reduce our taxes, and let charidies look after them.
      We will all be bedda off.

      PS I despise any organisation that uses Aoeteroa in its name.
      Stop virtue signalling, and grovelling.

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    • Well, there is that presumption but should Tarrant not have been retained in custody, he hasn’t been found guilty by a court?

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      • Tarrant should have been shot like a dog on site. Preferably in the guts so that he would suffer while he died.

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      • All serious offenders are remanded in custody until their trial. The remand is later considered as part of their sentenced jail time.

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    • I strongly agree with you, and am consistently disgusted by the MSM and #metoo’s kangaroo courts and their tactics.

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    • What electorate would they be voting in? I guess it will have very little effect on the outcome. As most of the prison population are maori, their votes wouldn’t be worth a pinch of shit. The virtue signaling from the left truely is astounding.

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      • I assume the previous rules around three years, was the electoral cycle?

        I would be interested in the number of prisoners that were enrolled to vote before they were incarcerated. I assume that if this was to be reimplemented that on the day enrolling would be the way to go, at least their identities are more likely to be correct, unlike at the supermarket.

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        • It is Labour’s plan to get prisoners enrolled to increase their voting base. People who live outside the law tend to avoid enrolling on the Electoral Roll as it allows the State agencies, and debt collectors, etc to know where you live. Something many criminals would prefer not to advertise.

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          • The State kind of knows where they are incarcerated. Besides, they can always not declare themselves on the electoral roll once they’re left prison.

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            • I meant when they were free and living on the outside, they don’t want to declare their address. I doubt debt collectors have much chance of collecting when their target is in the pokie.

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    • Bullshit
      How are they going to recycle them?
      How much will it cost to send them to somewhere where they may do it?

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      • Recycling is a joke. Our council have just issued 2 wheely bins to replace our small roadside bin. One for bottles and jars and one for plastic containers, paper, cardboard, etc. There is more plastic in the now obsolete small bin and 2 wheely bins than the amount of plastic we would recycle in a year.
        Note to producers of recyclable containers. If you want us to recycle then please make the RECYCLE NUMBER EASILY VISIBLE on the container!!! When in doubt I chuck out.

        There is no ability to include disposing of batteries in curbside recycling. Councils would rather virtue signal over ‘climate emergencies’ than take real and practical steps to prevent nasty chemical leakage into our landfills.

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  9. And to think there are folks out there that think we are a bit backwards, the Southland Environment Council will not be declaring a climate change emergency for one they think it lessens the impact of the word emergency, so some sanity reigns for now, good luck to the rest of NZ that itch on your bum is your wallet getting inspected for another round of fleecing

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    • Speaking of fleecing, what happened to the enquiry into the fuel companies that were accused of fleecing us? Did they find that it really is the Government doing the fleecing?

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  10. What absolute rubbish, having a child while on a benefit should be considered to be proof of a relationship. Is having sex a Human Right? Should the situation be different if as a couple you are going onto a joint benefit? It is, of course, a way to ease the housing crisis by sharing bedrooms and ridiculous to be maintaining two households to get around current restrictions?

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/393609/welfare-system-needs-to-change-how-it-defines-relationships-report

    Then when I was researching it I came across this. Sad situation.

    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/apr/03/english-judge-says-man-having-sex-with-wife-is-fundamental-human-right

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    • The types of relationships and family building that this Susan St John refers too are not what most normal people would even class as a relationship.
      The individuals involved in these loose kinds of arrangements are nothing more then tramps who just shack up with anyone have a kid and then move onto the next retard along the way accumulating numerous feral offspring for the tax payer to look after.
      P.S: Susan St John was one of my lecturers at university so I can report her indoctination rate for students in socialism 101 has not reached the desired 100%.

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  11. Antiques store selling Nazi replicas upsets west Aucklanders
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/393614/antiques-store-selling-nazi-replicas-upsets-west-aucklanders
    “A west Auckland antiques store is upsetting locals, as well as the Jewish Council and the Returned Services Association (RSA), for selling replica Nazi memorabilia”.

    Oh FFS the outrage brigade is in full swing again this time trying to demonise some poor guy selling Nazi stuff and golliwogs in Auckland.
    Interesting that none of these busy bodies ever object about the sale of Che Guevara tee shirts given what a thug he was or even the sale of Chinese Yuan at banks in NZ given they all have pictures of Mao Zedong on them who made Hitler look like an amateur when it came to killing people.
    Selective outrage if you ask me.

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    • So another one to add to the long list of things that might make you a white supremacist is being a collector of war memorabilia, there are more and more days that im glad i haven’t had the privilege of bringing any children into this world

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    • I had a friend who was daring do mad, he even tried to learn to read German so that he could read books about the Luftwaffe. He bought Luftwaffe artwork as well as RAF as well as countless books on the subject.

      He also wrote a book on Les Munro. I even got a credit mention. I went with him meeting our WW2 vets and the stories were incredible, first hand is best, I got drunk with a couple of them. My favourite was Tony Pierard from Palmerston North, he paid me the biggest compliment that I have ever had.

      He had a lot to do with setting this up, sadly not to be retained. If we had lost the war would our symbolism have been banned? Yes, I understand that they started it.

      http://rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/1789

      At the time I had an Antique shop and had lots of ‘bait’ (conversation starters) for the enthusiast, and got him many leads for his obsession. medals books artworks, where does it end for the offended.

      There have to be items that make the imagination fly, to make you want to find out more, or you know, to hell with it just because you like it.

      A lot of Nazi symbolism was not incepted by them, we all like to cubbyhole people for that symbolism, I am as guilty as some but I would like to think that I would not deny others their expression.

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    • There are days when I just long for there to be something for the “outrage brigade” to be REALLY outraged about.

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    • What kind of sad git listens to these fools that change their mind on a yearly basis as to what is good & not, imagine giving up just this lot “Eggs, dark chocolate, meat and cheese” add some spuds & bacon and thats probably covered most of NZs basic food requirements, i guess it keeps some people in a revolving trough for life so they have to produce some bs to justify it

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      • yes, one minute wine is good for you, next minute all alcohol is bad.
        Sugar, salt,
        Even fruit has lots of bad sugar (for your tooth) in it

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    • Thanks for the reminder, I’ll just go and get the Anzac biscuits out of the freezer to have with our coffee. They are full of butter and sugar, and taste fantastic!

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  12. Great now Nania (i’m so fat) Mahuta is making us pay to upgrade all marae round the country, to strengthen family and earthquake proof them.

    Cant Maori pay for anything themselves?

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    • And to all these fucking councils who have got the virtue signalling disease. How virulent must it be for so many fuckwits to catch it?

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    • The problem would seem to be that governments cannot tax Solar activity – at least not yet.

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  13. Rebecca Sommer gave in January 2018 interviews in Poland.
    [refugees] already become my friends. I helped them get through the asylum procedures, I dealt with government agencies for them, located apartments for them, furniture, computers, bicycles, clothing, training, courses, jobs and scholarships, and spent countless hours of my own time on their individual cases. There came a time when I finally realized that these people were deceiving me. They were practising taqyyia with me. They had tricked me. It was a great disappointment. But I had been warned against this deceptive Muslim taqyyia practice by Arabs and by Kurds, by people who had not only escaped from war zones, but escaped from Muslims as well. But I had ignored what they were telling me.

    And suddenly I found out that those people, all of whose problems I had solved, with whom I had been eating, laughing and dancing, people who did not pray, did not go to mosque, did not keep Ramadan and mocked traditional devout Muslims, while sitting in my garden, had been calling me “a stupid German tart” behind my back.
    https://arbeitsgruppefluchtundmenschenrechte.wordpress.com/2018/02/11/interview-with-rebecca-sommer-english/

    Still had the islamic culture at their core, even if not devout, or pious, or daresay a “moderate”
    Unicorns have a horn for a reason, to be used, and teeth to bite, and back feet & hooves to kick. Such a darling creature, yeah right.

    A very good interview, covering many grounds of the issues in Germany.
    Many examples of what she experienced, that awoke her, and why this will continue, not only in Germany, but around the world.
    A good read to understand what drives some ‘do gooders’, and where and how to “woke” them up.

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    • If you post that 3 times does Not So Fast appear from KB to tell us all how Lundy is just a poor misunderstood man that loved his family and is only in the slammer due to the corrupt cops & judiciary, the day of their funeral & the way he acted will be forever seared into my mind

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      • Well, he shouldn’t do, so I did feel free to post it. A safe space, but I bet he is there on KB. Any chance that we won’t here anymore after the very limited appeal?

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  14. Plastic bag ban: Sandringham Indian takeaway shop Paradise makes change to paper bags amid strong reaction
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12246549
    “The Auckland Indian restaurant that cut handles off its plastic bags to get around the new ban has today announced it is now only using paper bags.
    As of Wednesday the ministry had 13 reports of non-compliance since the ban came into effect.
    People are being urged to report to the ministry if they observed the distribution of what they believe to be banned plastic bags”.

    Be on your guard folks as the latest crusade is now underway.
    Workmates to inform on each other, neighbours to inform on each other, friends to inform on each other and most importantly kids you are to inform on your parents if you see them committing this heinous crime.
    You mark my words,incidents like the one in the story are going to become the norm.
    People will inform the media and then they will descend on the business and try and bully it into submission and publically shame it,all over a plastic bag.
    It’s really scary how such a small insignificant thing can invoke a righteous mob these days.

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    • I need to report the weather for depositing a NW plastic bag in my garden this morning. I promise I did not ask for it so no need to report me! //

      Yesterday I was in a pharmacy and a woman was collecting her large 3month prescription. She had brought a decent sized shopping bag with her but it was not adequate for the large box of tablets and bottles of pills so the chemist found her a cardboard box instead. Those banned t.shirt plastic bags held an amazing amount for their size. The woke folk, including our very own PM-Select did not consider how inconvenient all this virtue signalling would be just so they could feel virtuous.

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      • Yeah well Jacinda can suck on it because I have a personal stock of about 6000 bags which should last me for years to come.Very satisfying pulling out my plastic bags in the supermarket.

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    • So this fucking scumbag Govt are now getting Kiwis to narc on each other i seem to remember another regime that started with similar tactics, probably the only thing that brings joy to miserable left toadies is trying to screw over other people going about their lawful business a tactic left blogs use on a regular basis, and i include scummy wee wannabe journos doing their bidding with their gotcha tactics

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    • He took a financial gamble to set up a business funded by the taxpayer. No different from people who mortgage or sell their home to fund their own private business, a gamble to work for yourself. Good on him. He’s obviously got a drive to work and succeed. I don’t know why the tribes haven’t done the same thing, or are they not interested in helping their own down and outs?

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      • Easier really but no guarantee that the government would fund him, I doubt anyone else contributed any of their benefit to him.

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        • The government(taxpayer) always ends up funding these private charities as it gets shamed and bullied into it and feels it has no choice.
          I reckon starting a charity is a fraction of the risk of starting your own business as you only have to get through a couple of years independently then after that wait for the gravy train to pull into central station.

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        • He must be doing a good job. Perhaps they started the shelter purely for truly altruistic reasons to help others and never intended to secure an income? Nice if funding happened by accident for him and his wife to continue their work. The mortgage money wouldn’t have lasted long though so I fail to see how his altruism would have lasted very long without funding.

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    • Smoking dope in the car would probably be a warning.
      Smoking tobacco in the car probably 3 months jail and 1 year disqualification of licence.

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        • That was an interesting read, ghastly but I think the zero tolerance, broken window strategy might help not get there. If that stats in cars and some kids get some consideration, hell it can’t hurt, it might even help.

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    • “Mr Clement said the staff had no idea how busy they’d be during the first few months of collections.”

      Not very busy if people I have spoken to are anything to go by. Most people I know want a cast iron guarantee of how much compensation they will get before turning up to hand over their guns. After all if you don’t agree with what they offer you will probably have difficulty walking out with your gun again. As Richard Prosser wrote last week on KB compensation should be set at probably double market value if the government wants a reasonable rate of compliance. The “market value” of an A Cat AR15 appears to be between $3500 (Mongrel Mob) and $5000 (Headhunters) though this will inevitably fall as the gangs stockpile increases so one might be tempted to think the best advice is to sell quick at the top of the market.

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  15. Courtesy of NZCPR- weekly.

    NZCPR Weekly:

    By Dr Muriel Newman

    “A hallmark of a free society is the liberty of its citizens to express their views without fear of recrimination. New Zealand was once that society, but not so today.

    The enemies of free expression are everywhere. These are the extremists who, having failed to convince others through the strength of their argument, are willing to use force to impose their ideologies. This can occur at many levels – in the case of Islamic fundamentalists, their violent threats over-ride national sovereignty.

    In 1987, Rudi Carrell, a popular comedian on German television, did a sketch poking fun at Iran’s leader. The Ayatollah Khomeini had introduced strict sharia law forbidding women from showing their bodies, so the comedian depicted them throwing underwear at his feet.

    The Ayatollah claimed that by offending him, the skit offended Muslims around the world. There were violent protests, consulates were closed, diplomats were expelled, and death threats were issued against the comedian. Fearing for his life, Rudi Carrell apologised and was given police protection.

    Germany’s Foreign Minister also apologised, but he reiterated his government’s commitment to the freedom of the press and artistic expression.

    A year later, British writer Salman Rushdie published his fourth novel, The Satanic Verses. He was also accused of insulting Islam. The Ayatollah Khomeini issued a fatwa calling, not only for his death, but of everyone involved in the publication.

    A US$3 million bounty was offered for Salman Rushdie’s assassination. He was put under police protection and went into hiding. Two years later, the book’s Japanese translator was stabbed to death, and his Italian and Norwegian translators were seriously injured. Over the years there have been book burnings, mass protests, bombings, and more killings. The fatwa and bounty on Salman Rushdie’s head remain in place.

    In 2004, Dutch film director Theo Van Gogh helped produce a movie condemning Islam’s treatment of women. It created outrage. He was assassinated just months later.

    In 2005, concerned that the fear of retribution was silencing criticism of Islam, the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten published a series of cartoons of Muhammad. Since visual depictions of Muhammad are considered blasphemous, the cartoons were regarded as highly offensive. But in a show of media solidarity, they were reprinted in newspapers around the world. The violent protests that followed left more than 200 dead.

    In France the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo was accused of inciting hatred by publishing the cartoons and was taken to court. They were acquitted in 2007. In 2011, the newspaper was firebombed just ahead of publishing a satirical issue featuring Muhammad as guest-editor. And in 2015, in retaliation for continuing to caricature Muhammad, masked gunmen attacked the newspaper killing the editor and 11 other staff.

    In response to the killings, the print run of a commemoration issue of the newspaper featuring a caricature of Mohammed was increased from 60,000 copies to over 5 million. The headline “Je Suis Charlie” – “I am Charlie” – became a rallying cry for the freedom of self-expression.

    While supporters of Islam allege that satire and criticism are offensive and should be outlawed, defenders of free expression argue that Islam should be exposed to the same scrutiny as any other religion. They claim the freedom of expression includes the freedom to poke fun and to have a good laugh, and that religious leaders of all faiths should respect that.

    As Sir Salman Rushdie wisely observed, “There is no right in the world not to be offended. That right simply doesn’t exist. In a free society, an open society, people have strong opinions, and these opinions very often clash. In a democracy, we have to learn to deal with this.”

    That is not always easy, as Israel Folau has found out. “( cont..)

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    • …..”That is not always easy, as Israel Folau has found out”…..

      The problem isn’t in defending Folau’s right to free speech important as that may be.

      It’s the fact that the mentally challenged who believe in the same shit that he does consider that they should have an absolute right to push their religious standards on to all.

      This distinction escapes many on this forum.

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      • …..”Excluding people from their church is not in the same league as killing those who disagree”…..

        Folau is not & never has been excluded from his church. Nor has there been any official threats of death.

        BUT this is as far as free speech goes. Law demands that you, I & Folau have the right to say what we wish without being summarily sentenced to death. The law does not guarantee that there will not be adverse consequences to the expression of free speech.

        Folau & his arsehole, religiously addled mates, Christian & Muslim alike, demand rights without repercussions.

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        • I would much prefer a situation where everyone could voice a non violent opinion without fear of repercussions from other parties who find it offensive or upsetting.
          To feel you have to take other actions to sanction someone for a non violent opinion is nothing but intolerance in itself.

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          • …..” voice a non violent opinion without fear of repercussions from other parties who find it offensive or upsetting”…..

            You are probably sincere in that belief but would you be willing to test it?

            Let’s say that a version of the US “Man-Boy Love Assn” got started in NZ & started visiting primary schools & sponsoring Youth Clubs. They’d be offensive & an anathema to every parent/grandparent yet they wouldn’t be violent. My best guess is that you & I would stand shoulder to shoulder as part of the lynching mob.

            Tolerance only goes so far. Western society is being disembowelled by its tolerance to religious authoritarians & their apologists. No fake religion is better than the other.

            Where does the brick wall get built?

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            • So you don’t agree with any of the ten commandments due to them appearing in the bible and Christianity trying to live by them? My opinion is that society was better for them. I have had my ass coveted (I have donkeys), adultery can be a bit tricky, and I don’t get on with most of my neighbours but other than that….

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              • 1 -4 are purely religious prescriptions. 5 – depends onthe parents. Should the parents we hear about killing toddlers be honoured? If it said good parents then fine, respect has to be earned. 6 – 9 with suitable definitions so as not to rule out self defense are mostly ok. 10 – really says don’t be envious, which might be good advice but no reason for it to be a “law”.

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            • “Let’s say a version of the US Man Boy Love Assn got started in NZ”

              Got started?, God dammit the Catholic Church is already here.

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      • Did he state them? As far as I could see he reposted something that he was sent on facebook, he might have agreed to the sentiments but he didn’t make it up. I don’t recall whether or not he has stated them even afterwards.

        I try not to and I loathe the ones that say send this on to all of your friends and if you get them back you are special, ones.

        But a lot of people mindlessly repost shit that comes onto their page.

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    • Muriel Newman is good value. If only we had a few of her calibre in Parliament instead of the incumbent dross.

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  16. Climate Change hysteria

    Last week some climate change organization said we have 12 years to reach their targets for reducing carbon emissions.

    The only countries anywhere near the targets were The Gambia, Morocco and New Zealand.
    Many other countries were worse, and most countries were not even mentioned.

    So their whole target has no chance.

    Not until they start reducing the world over population- China, India, Pakistan, Nigeria. The Philippines, Uganda, Indonesia – all over populated or big populations in basket cases.

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    • …..”all over populated or big populations in basket cases”…..

      Pakistan, Nigeria, the Philippines, Uganda & Indonesia are under the spell of their religious leaders who moronically believe that the wombs of the believers’ women will give them the numbers to win a righteous victory that their Skydaddy promised.

      Realistically, it’s plague, famine or war otherwise mankind will fuck themselves extinct.

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      • yes like Singapore.
        A few years ago I read that they wanted more people, but from educated parents.
        And their island is the same size as Lake Taupo

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      • Sadly I think you are wrong the west always helps with such disasters to save the people.
        Compulsory sterilization is the only way the Greens will ever get their reduction in carbon emissions.

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  17. Over the last few days, I have visited that newspaper, stuffed, one news and they are not very good are they.
    I would say crap even. I could not bring my self to watch breakfast tv. I was not that stupid!
    Why would a lot of people study journalism and have a loan too pay back, when there is only three positions in a whole year and you have wait for someone to fall off the perch for a job! You might as well study basket weaving.

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    • Thank fuck I cant receive that shit over her Sootster..lots of Thai and Russian shite, but at least I’m not subjected to the putrid bile and propaganda pumped out daily by the NZ MSM dickheads.

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    • They have lots of Chinese dairy interests here that looks like something coming out of discussions with Trump. Are we the only country, let alone a western one that doesn’t chat with America?

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  18. I popped out of the time machine in May of 2049, very eager to see what was going on in the future. Even I couldn’t believe what was written on the front page of the newspaper…..

    “New Treaty of Waitangi Claims Lodged”.

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    • Surprised, Really? Isn’t that the 3rd, 4th or 5th time they were revisited. Go forward another few years and there will be another claim for you to find. ?

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  19. Can’t do anything on here without you lot getting involved. The Poll is still under test mode, but you lot cannot help yourselves and have to Have you say. ?

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    • Was going to help but Taskmasters on one of the few things worth turning the TV on for & being a bloke i cant multitask

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      • Always thought that was just an excuse. lol Too set in my ways to change my opinion on that.

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    • Well, she didn’t like him, did she, at least she got charged and sentenced for it.

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  20. Dunne reckons that Simon is flirting with Winston or is it with other NZF ‘leaders’? And of course he should, who would be best? Winston reckons Simon won’t be there. I think it is more likely that Winston won’t be.

    Winston and Simon tick a lot of the same boxes. In my opinion anyway, cunning isn’t one of them. Winston is in a class of his own and you should always give the devil his due. Which is nothing.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/07/draw-the-line-national-urged-to-stop-courting-new-zealand-first.html

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