all the physical things are mostly designed in america but made in china or veitnam 🤣 esp the junk that fills walmart and amazon… and tiktok???? um its chinese made with a jiggery pokery to get round a ban. i take it this is just a junk post list you found on x old boy?
I know you dissect every thing Viking AI puts up but surely you are not going to go through every joke now. Get back into bed and give your controller a cuddle before the kids get up and tell you what to do.
i wait till theyre on the school bus to get outve bed! house to myself and can do what i want in peace for a few hours until that controller gets home from work!
and meh, depends what mood im in if i gunna mock a joke or just stick to mocking old vikey 🙂 its a wet crappy day so lots of time to kill today
the kids are old enough now to start sorting their own shit (11 & 13) and they fear the wrath of mrs sb!!! still dosent stop the lil shits needing a near daily rark up from her tho.
and no person or animal goes hungry around this place wg.
My mum started work before our school day so we were left breakfast to sort ourselves and for dad who always claimed he couldn’t even boil water. He also left the house for work before we did. It taught us good life lessons, independence and a work ethic.
The limp liberals call that these days “neglected” children.
im one of those who can barely boil water although after fending for myself the past few months ive learnt a bit and had a rude awakening and crash course at life…. eg. in 18yrs i hadnt done an actual grocery shop, never made a bed, done washing, made my lunch or cooked anything more than a saveloy 🤣
hadnt done dishes for probs 13 or 14yrs either.
was a very steep learning curve! luckily the pub helped feed me a couple times per week. i cheat the rest of the time and get premade frozen meals from the cafe, 15bux each so not too bad and better then supermarket readymeal slop.
mrs sb had a laugh last week, its the first time in my life i bought some clothes. mrs sb does that and prior to her my mum would do it.
old dogs can be taught new tricks… sort of
I’ll bet you don’t even know how to shower yourself; you use soap, or you will be right at home with the Greenies.
Then there’s that other thing about wiping ya bum. Yikes.
I know from grilling Jacinda Ardern that tax is a potent topic. Corporate tax cuts should be next – Simon Bridges
Tax can be exceptionally potent politically. In the right hands, it’s a lethal sword. When Jacinda Ardern was mooting a capital gains tax, I came up with new angles to grill her on it in Parliament every day for weeks.
She hated it. I instructed everyone in National that there were to be no speeches, press releases, no nothing, other than about the CGT. We dominated Labour in the polls at that time, and the bogeyman tax died a quick death.
Tax is a defining issue at this election. Labour is again proposing a form of capital gains tax and, if National is to be believed, maybe others are in the bag as well. National is promising no new taxes, full stop, after earlier saying no more taxes at least “on working people”. It’s a negative debate. National is saying only what it won’t impose on you; Labour is saying only what it will. Neither is having the tax debate we need. No one is positively proposing anything to build a more productive, higher-growth economy in which incomes and living standards go up.
I don’t in principle oppose a capital gains tax entirely. Almost every other Western nation has some form of tax on property or assets. My issue has always been that, without other reforms alongside, it’s just more burden and tax take when, if we want greater prosperity, we shouldn’t be growing the state.
Probably, we should be shrinking it. Some form of tax switch would be a solution, a bit like Bill English and John Key did when GST went up and personal tax rates down in 2010.
I can also respect the “no new taxes” schtick, albeit that’s not really the point. The ultimate issue is the tax’s purpose and outcome. What incentives and disincentives are created, and what is the overall effect on the economy? “No new taxes” neglects what business leaders I respect say the Government misses: genuine boldness and ambition over minor, short-term tactics.
So, what’s the tax reform we need to debate, and honestly get on with? Company tax cuts. The case is crystal clear, and the evidence compelling.
The highly regarded Tax Foundation puts out an annual International Tax Competitiveness Index ranking all 38 OECD economies. It makes clear that in today’s globalised, mobile and competitive world, if your marginal corporate tax rate is too high, business doesn’t invest as much, there’s tax avoidance and, over time, business goes offshore.
Moreover, as OECD work shows, of all taxes, whether personal, consumption or property, it’s corporate tax that does most harm to economic growth. In short, if it’s too high, say goodbye.
In the recent past, many countries such as Austria, Luxembourg, Portugal, Greece – hell, even France – have reduced their corporate rates. Finland, Sweden and Germany are considering doing so. That’s before we worry about those with the lowest numbers in the OECD: Lithuania (15%), Ireland (12.5%) and Hungary (9%), with their kick-ass, go-ahead economies as a result.
Estonia, a country our Prime Minister greatly admires, came out top of the index for its overall tax mix, although its corporate rate is still a stiff 22% compared to some others.
I’m certainly not advocating that we get our number down into the teens. But at 28%, and 31st out of 38 in the OECD for corporate rates, we are not even in the game and deserve to be a relatively low-growth, low-prosperity nation.
Indeed, while our overall tax mix serves us well given our blend of individual, consumption and low-to-zero property taxes, our 28% corporate tax is well above the OECD average of 24.2%. As BusinessNZ says, we are “now well out of step with our peers and [this] is holding back investment. Australia, the UK and Canada all sit at or below 25 to 26%”.
Our mainly centre-right politicians have long loved to talk about the economic miracles of Estonia, Singapore and Ireland. But these countries all cut corporate taxes – a crucial ingredient in their high growth and prosperity cakes. Just 30 or so years ago, all were paupers compared to us. Ireland’s story is particularly galling, given its rise from a nation of poor pig farmers to a tech, financial and pharma superpower that leaves us in the dust. I also think of Mr Trump, a true Kiwi favourite. Despite all he’s thrown at the US economy, from tariffs to war, with general craziness on the side, huge corporate tax relief has helped its economy stay strong, and at least partly explains why its tech and AI boom is second to none.
I acknowledge there’s one major flaw in my argument. “How do we pay for the reduction in taxes?”, I hear you ask. Personally, I’d stop pussy-footing around with minor spending cuts and, at the start of a new electoral term, swiftly remove a handful of oversized spending programmes to give us billions in room to move. That is my prescription for the right.
For the left, which tends to like large public programmes more, there’s also a compelling prescription. Introduce the capital gains tax we arguably need, along with the corporate tax reductions we also deserve and under which we would flourish. One could pay for the other.
I accept there’s not much, if any, cash from a CGT anytime soon, given the current property market, but this should change. The reform could be pitched as long-term and working fiscally over a decade or longer.
For National, cutting spending and taxes would put substance behind its long-term claim to be the party of lower taxes. For Labour, the tax switch would fit its historical view of itself as the party with the courage to do what New Zealand needs.
The CGT/corporate tax cut offering could be positioned alongside other nation-building Labour reforms, such as floating the dollar, removing agricultural subsidies, corporatising state-owned enterprises, creating the Super Fund and KiwiSaver, and separating Telecom.
I’m not alone in my vote for bringing down corporate taxes. BusinessNZ’s message is entirely right, and I echo its recent call for “every party to put a credible pathway on lowering the company tax rate back on the table this election”.
I’m on the record as saying energy reform is New Zealand’s No 1 economic issue.
But corporate tax reduction is a close second, unless we’re going to give up on climbing the OECD league tables and on our desire for our young to enjoy relative prosperity like their forebears.
Conservative thinker Douglas Murray wrote a column in the United Kingdom recently bemoaning the new Prime Minister, Andy Burnham, and really all and sundry, for their lack of higher purpose and any understanding of why they’re even in Parliament.
“An ambition to make Britain rich would be a noble endeavour – the sort of thing that would justify someone roaring to political power. But that doesn’t seem to be on anyone’s agenda. A little bit of tinkering around social media rules seems to be the most our politicians aspire to,” Murray wrote.
Sound familiar? Let’s be bold and ambitious. Let’s lower our company tax rate.
Get rid of paying for racist policies and other mumbo jumbo, get out of the Climate scam, and reward innovation and hard working Kiwis. Very simple actually.
David Farrar: Green MP says Govt MPs are worse than Adolf Eichmann!!
A speech in Parliament by Green MP Steve Abel which is so deranged, that it should make him inadmissible for ministerial office. In response to the bill which simply states climate change policy is to be formulated by Parliament, not the courts, Steve Abel said:
There’s a concept that was conceived by a philosopher called Hannah Arendt. She came up with the concept of the “banality of evil”. She described the character of Adolf Eichmann, a Nazi who participated in the Holocaust. It strikes me that those corporate bosses today—and, frankly, complicit politicians—are a truer form of the banality of evil, because though they will never personally come so close, as Eichmann did, to transporting human souls to the gas chambers, collectively their actions are far more consequential. They are gassing our whole planet towards an inconceivable human and animal death.
This is simply outrageous. The media should be all over this. He actually says Government MPs who vote for this law are more evil than Adolf Eichmann. It is an absolute insult to victims of the Holocaust that he trivialises their slaughter by saying Government MPs are comparable to Eichmann. https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/…/green_mp_says_govt_mps_are…
IIRC Steve was the grandson of Stuart Abel who built the empire of Abels, making all sorts of consumer products. indeed
Abels Ltd was a prominent food manufacturing business on Carlton Gore Road in Newmarket, Auckland, best known for producing margarine, shortenings, and consumer snacks. [1, 2]
History and Operations
Founding: George Handson Abel started the company in November 1920 in Newmarket to supply baking ingredients like margarine.]
Leadership: His son, Stuart Abel, later led the company as managing director and chairman following World War II.
Expansion: In 1955, the company launched ETA Foods Ltd, which grew into a leading New Zealand snack brand making potato chips, nuts, and peanut butter.
Diversification: When regulations eased in the 1970s, Abels also began manufacturing polyunsaturated table margarine.
Site Redevelopment: Industrial operations eventually expanded to Wiri, and the old industrial Abels margarine factory site in Newmarket has since been redeveloped into mixed-use residential, office, and retail spaces.
so you can find out about these things. Steve is a trust fund noddy .
Hipkins was so excited to meet his idol Klaus Schwab, leader of the WEF – World Economic Forum – their catch cry is You will own Nothing and be Happy. Despite helping write policy for the WEF, Christopher Luxon denies ever having heard of the outfit. Both main parties are infiltrated and not worthy of your votes.
That was in Tianjin, China, in June 2023, is facebook running slow or has someone just found the picture?
Whatever, it actually looks like Hipkins is crying for help.
I have come to the conclusion that Willy Jackson is not the dumbest man in New Zealand but I am of the opinion that Willie hopes he doesn’t die and leave the position vacant for Willie.
i only saw a few snippets but yup the guy is a low iq racist moron.
thats what decades of blaming whitey does to someone, also he blatantly told us to watch out for labours new creative names for co gov and handing everything to maori.
As well proven during the Arden’ic terms, like “3 Waters” multiplied to “10 Waters”
Then Luxons creative new name for “Local Water Done Well” and as we see by systemic “Wellington Water” turning into Waitangi Tribunal “obligations” following the ruts of iwi control via “Tiaki Wai”
I just installed in the van a wireless nation modem for my tap n go anz phone app to take money from sales. Also switched the home wifi 2 mobile phones and unlimited broadband for $138 a month
Spark was charging $190 a month without the second wifi modem
The new system uses the spark mobile phone network.
We have a 2 degrees wireless modem which we take away in our caravan. (not meant to). But it works had it for 3 years. Unlimited $60. We have prepay phones $13 a month. I think we get 1 gig of data on those and free phone calls, which we don’t use much anyway. Hubby likes to watch Netflix etc.
if i was in coverage id go that route but it probably dosent cover western australia or the nz backcountry tho.
spark is rippoff, i told mrs sb other day we need to shop around for better deal and also our coverage here at home has gone to fucking shit since the big wind storm last year and even worse after the 3g network got shut down.
REYKJAVIK, Iceland (AP) — Iceland’s voters rejected restarting negotiations to join the European Union in a referendum that pitted concerns about geopolitical stability against keeping national control of Iceland’s prized fisheries, officials said Sunday.
Opponents defeated the measure by a margin of 52.8% to 47.2%, the National Electoral Commission said. The result puts the divisive issue to rest for now — more than a decade after a euroskeptic government ended EU talks that had begun after the 2008 financial crisis.
The vote Saturday was held in the shadow of repeated threats by U.S. President Donald Trump to take control of nearby Greenland. Although Iceland is a NATO member, supporters said European solidarity would provide greater protection if Trump ever made similar threats toward the volcanic island.
Iceland’s left-leaning coalition government, elected in 2024, moved up the EU referendum it had planned for next year after Trump mistakenly named Iceland four times while speaking about his designs on Greenland.
Chopper pilot Mark Law’s new memoir has been released. As expected it revolves around the 2019 White Island eruption rescues & the subsequent persecution of the pilots & companies involved by the arseholes of Worksafe.
It is a book which I fully intend to read but meantime https://newsroom.co.nz/2026/08/31/mark-law-on-jacinda-ardern/ have penned a review. Surprisingly for an media organisation, which is so blatantly biased to the Left that its “journalists” walk in circles, it takes a swing at the high priestess of everything left, one Jacinda Ardern.
The arch bitch gets a pasting from Mark Law which is unsurprising since she nearly bankrupted him. What is surprising is that Newsroom published the critique.
Luxon said this according to the unreliable RNZ and Commenter here, John Campbell.
“It’s in New Zealand’s interest to be in the Paris Agreement, because as soon as we would come out, we’re in bad company, there’s only four countries that have pulled out,” he said.
Doing so would make the country poorer, because New Zealand products would be “kicked off the shelves” overseas, Luxon said.”
WG, that is unmitigated Bullshit and if so what useless Trade Agreements we have.
Unreliable? How can you possibly make such horrible comments about the world’s greatest living journalist, loved by women and feared by fish wherever I go! I almost cried when I read that, in fact I’m so traumatized I’m going to have a cup of chamomile tea, loosen my man bun and practice my breathing exercises until I calm down and stop shaking. See you all in a few hours.
either position on it is simply a virtue signal, theres real life consequences for staying and leaving.
while i think luxtard wholeheartedly believes in the climate scam i also believe he knows the consequences of missing the targets will be dialed back and less economic impact then leaving the scam.
its not like we’re big enough to bully and threaten the world with tariffs or war should there be repercussions from ditching the paris crap.
plus if the penalties for missing the 2030 targets do look like theyll be imposed itll become a hot election issue in 2029, luxon will be gone so the party could (unlikely) change tack and pledge to withdraw while letting labour etc campaign on throwing billioms per year at the virtue signal
That Luxon is a weak fool is not an assertion likely to attract argument on this forum. What has to be stated though is that barriers to free trade in agricultural produce are everywhere & any overt displays of common sense over the Paris crap will be seized upon by the WEF funded Green lunatics to punish those who don’t want to drink the Kool-Aid.
The city folk overseas who eat what we produce think that meat appears by magic on supermarket trays & butter comes out of a fridge ready wrapped. They actually believe that polar bears are grasping at ice cubes vanishing in a boiling ocean. They think weather is climate.
Luxon needs to shut his gob about his dislike of Trump’s policies when speaking to his international liaisons. The US know exactly who spoke negatively and what was said. Trump remembers all criticism. We are a tiny country who can’t afford to lose trade or have increased tariffs imposed by the US.
Twice in recent days I have heard them talking about the Paris Accord/ETS on The Country ( Jamie McKay’s radio program). All talking very negatively about them –getting out of it etc. Maybe this is why Luxon has bought the issue up.
I asked Grok.
If New Zealand withdrew from the Paris Climate accord, what are the penalties if any and who will enact such penalties? Who will any penalties go to and why?
There is **no fine, no invoice, and no international court that can charge New Zealand a penalty for leaving the Paris Agreement**.
Withdrawal is written into the treaty. It is a legal exit, not a crime.
### How withdrawal works
Article 28 of the Paris Agreement: after the deal has been in force for that country for three years, it may give **written notice** to the UN Secretary-General. The exit takes effect **one year later**.
The United States has already used that process. No UN body levied a fine. No country was paid “damages for leaving.”
Withdrawing from the parent treaty (the 1992 UN climate convention) would also take New Zealand out of Paris automatically. That is a separate, heavier step.
### Who could punish New Zealand under Paris itself?
**Nobody with a cash penalty.**
The Paris compliance body (Article 15) is required to be **“non-adversarial and non-punitive.”** It can talk, advise, and help with reporting. It cannot fine, sanction, or seize assets.
Nationally Determined Contributions (NDCs) are political pledges with a duty to *have* a target and to report. Missing a target is not treated like defaulting on a loan.
So: **no penalties to collect, and no one to pay them to**, under the Agreement.
### What people mean when they talk about “consequences”
Those are **political, commercial, and legal-risk** effects, not a Paris fine.
Leaving Paris does **not** by itself repeal New Zealand’s domestic climate law. Those are separate.
An International Court of Justice **advisory opinion** (2025) said climate treaties create real legal duties and that failure to act *could* in principle lead to reparations between states. That is not a withdrawal fee, has not been used as a bill for exiting Paris, and would still need a state to bring a case and win.
### Direct answer
– **Penalties in the treaty for withdrawing:** none.
– **Who enacts them:** no one.
– **Who would the money go to, and why:** it would not. There is no pot, no UN climate fine, and no prescribed recipient.
The live argument in New Zealand is about **markets, alliances, and domestic law**, not about writing a cheque to Paris. Whether those trade and reputation risks are large or overstated is a political judgment. The legal fact is that Paris does not bill countries for walking out.
alot of our trade agreements involve adhereing to the paris agreement.
while there is no consequence from the actual withdrawing from paris there are many other flow on consequences involving our trading partners. hence why in the original link luxon says about nz goods being pulled from shelves.
any exports heading to europe esp will be at risk, probs cost us more then the 5bil virtue signal…
look at the big picture not the narrow minded shit you lot focus on.
here Ed, tell your mate grok to sort its shit cuz google ai beats it
Trade and Economic Risks
Free Trade Agreement Breaches: Exiting the accord or significantly backsliding on climate commitments violates environmental provisions in New Zealand’s free trade agreements with the European Union and the United Kingdom.
Trade Retaliation: Major partners can legally pursue dispute processes, suspend trade concessions, or apply broad retaliatory tariffs and quotas against New Zealand exports.
Market Access: Exporters risk losing shelf space overseas if international regulators or multinationals penalize the country for dropping core environmental standards.
yup theyre all biased and mostly woke, point is you asked it a question and it failed…. or maybe the one asking grok the question failed?
confirmation bias doesnt do you any good
He’s commited National to the marxist global managed decline, and temporarily loses the ability to speak when Hosking asked him about NZF’s latest candidate Craig Stobo, it’s hilarious – Luxon turns to jelly.
More seriously, he has foolishly laid out a bottom line – “Paris will not be negotiable”
The insane Paris climate agreement has and continues to destroy countless economies around the world.
Act wants to tinker with Paris, Winston Peters wants to leave it entirely – Luxon has just said that any government he leads – that won’t be happening will stay in Paris AT ALL COSTS . The reason is because “It will mean we don’t comply with climate obligations in our FTA’s ….
Hang on, Didn’t Luxon say that the UNDRIP and Paris inclusions in the awful India FTA meant nothing ? and that “they put those provisions in all the agreements, but we can ignore them”
None of this makes sense does it ?
Channelling Ardern he says Climate change is the biggest threat to the Pacific “absolutely”
Oh BTW 15-19 year old unemployment rate is now over 25%, and Luxon is about to flood is with uncapped Indian Students with guaranteed work rights through the FTA.
This morning on the platform, Richard Prebble stated “ It’s almost like Luxon wants to lose
too right that it seems nats are actually trying to lose.
maybe theyre waking up to the fact its too fucked to fix so why bother staying to be paid peanuts when they can go abroad and make millions.
It’s a competition by Labour to find the worlds greatest nincompoop as leader.
They are all following the same Managed Decline of their country’s economy, etc. Will they go lower.
NZ: Chippy
Aus: Albo
UK: Burnham (the nob of the North)
Can: Carney
As an aside “the most popular US republican presidents” have recently been released in a poll: Trump 53% Lincoln 8% Reagan 18%
Just who are the Foundations, sort of easy to figure some in the USA.
This joins more dots of knowledge that some of us already knew.
Trump Declares War on the Foundations Cartel: Bessent’s Plan to End the Dark Money Empire https://youtu.be/dq8vNyOH53c
17 mins : Aug. 31. 2026 : Promethian Overviews : Mike Steger
Can read a bit about the points made just below the vid.
It does beg the question to consider, how connected to a Foundation is Promethian? or are they truly independent?
In other set-ups one can see how they are infiltrated, so then the new “directors” have the lifestyle, & sell out the original intentions to follow another ideology.
One can also consider how deep with in NZ, a similar set up is also being developed.
No. He’s worse. Most of them are incompetent & many are arrogant beyond belief. Alopecia Jesus entered NZ politics the same way as the wooden horse entered Troy.
Got family or friends living in Canada?
Here is their official “Buy Canadian” elbows-up list of Made in America things they now have to give up:
– iPhones
– iPads
– MacBooks
– AirPods
– Apple Watches
– Pumpkin spice lattes
– Starbucks
– Walmart
– Costco
– Netflix
– Disney+
– Amazon Prime
– Google
– YouTube
– Gmail
– Android phones
– Windows PCs
– Xbox
– Microsoft Office
– Tesla
– Ford / GM / Chrysler vehicles
– McDonald’s
– Burger King
– KFC
– Popeyes
– Coca-Cola
– Pepsi
– Nike
– Adidas
– Under Armour
– Hollywood movies
– Marvel / Star Wars
– Instagram
– Facebook
– WhatsApp
– TikTok
– Visa / Mastercard
– Amazon deliveries
– Most pharmaceuticals
– Most jeans and sneakers
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Please enjoy using the pure Canadian alternatives listed here:
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all the physical things are mostly designed in america but made in china or veitnam 🤣 esp the junk that fills walmart and amazon… and tiktok???? um its chinese made with a jiggery pokery to get round a ban. i take it this is just a junk post list you found on x old boy?
I know you dissect every thing Viking AI puts up but surely you are not going to go through every joke now. Get back into bed and give your controller a cuddle before the kids get up and tell you what to do.
i wait till theyre on the school bus to get outve bed! house to myself and can do what i want in peace for a few hours until that controller gets home from work!
and meh, depends what mood im in if i gunna mock a joke or just stick to mocking old vikey 🙂 its a wet crappy day so lots of time to kill today
Lucky your kids can fend for themselves, make their own breakfast or do they go to school hungry? Teaching them independence and fortitude.
the kids are old enough now to start sorting their own shit (11 & 13) and they fear the wrath of mrs sb!!! still dosent stop the lil shits needing a near daily rark up from her tho.
and no person or animal goes hungry around this place wg.
My mum started work before our school day so we were left breakfast to sort ourselves and for dad who always claimed he couldn’t even boil water. He also left the house for work before we did. It taught us good life lessons, independence and a work ethic.
The limp liberals call that these days “neglected” children.
im one of those who can barely boil water although after fending for myself the past few months ive learnt a bit and had a rude awakening and crash course at life…. eg. in 18yrs i hadnt done an actual grocery shop, never made a bed, done washing, made my lunch or cooked anything more than a saveloy 🤣
hadnt done dishes for probs 13 or 14yrs either.
was a very steep learning curve! luckily the pub helped feed me a couple times per week. i cheat the rest of the time and get premade frozen meals from the cafe, 15bux each so not too bad and better then supermarket readymeal slop.
mrs sb had a laugh last week, its the first time in my life i bought some clothes. mrs sb does that and prior to her my mum would do it.
old dogs can be taught new tricks… sort of
I’ll bet you don’t even know how to shower yourself; you use soap, or you will be right at home with the Greenies.
Then there’s that other thing about wiping ya bum. Yikes.
Missus has already gone to work.
No cuddles there.
No wonder he’s all bitter and twisted.
I know from grilling Jacinda Ardern that tax is a potent topic. Corporate tax cuts should be next – Simon Bridges
Tax can be exceptionally potent politically. In the right hands, it’s a lethal sword. When Jacinda Ardern was mooting a capital gains tax, I came up with new angles to grill her on it in Parliament every day for weeks.
She hated it. I instructed everyone in National that there were to be no speeches, press releases, no nothing, other than about the CGT. We dominated Labour in the polls at that time, and the bogeyman tax died a quick death.
Tax is a defining issue at this election. Labour is again proposing a form of capital gains tax and, if National is to be believed, maybe others are in the bag as well. National is promising no new taxes, full stop, after earlier saying no more taxes at least “on working people”.
It’s a negative debate. National is saying only what it won’t impose on you; Labour is saying only what it will. Neither is having the tax debate we need. No one is positively proposing anything to build a more productive, higher-growth economy in which incomes and living standards go up.
I don’t in principle oppose a capital gains tax entirely. Almost every other Western nation has some form of tax on property or assets. My issue has always been that, without other reforms alongside, it’s just more burden and tax take when, if we want greater prosperity, we shouldn’t be growing the state.
Probably, we should be shrinking it. Some form of tax switch would be a solution, a bit like Bill English and John Key did when GST went up and personal tax rates down in 2010.
I can also respect the “no new taxes” schtick, albeit that’s not really the point. The ultimate issue is the tax’s purpose and outcome. What incentives and disincentives are created, and what is the overall effect on the economy? “No new taxes” neglects what business leaders I respect say the Government misses: genuine boldness and ambition over minor, short-term tactics.
So, what’s the tax reform we need to debate, and honestly get on with? Company tax cuts. The case is crystal clear, and the evidence compelling.
The highly regarded Tax Foundation puts out an annual International Tax Competitiveness Index ranking all 38 OECD economies. It makes clear that in today’s globalised, mobile and competitive world, if your marginal corporate tax rate is too high, business doesn’t invest as much, there’s tax avoidance and, over time, business goes offshore.
Moreover, as OECD work shows, of all taxes, whether personal, consumption or property, it’s corporate tax that does most harm to economic growth. In short, if it’s too high, say goodbye.
In the recent past, many countries such as Austria, Luxembourg, Portugal, Greece – hell, even France – have reduced their corporate rates. Finland, Sweden and Germany are considering doing so. That’s before we worry about those with the lowest numbers in the OECD: Lithuania (15%), Ireland (12.5%) and Hungary (9%), with their kick-ass, go-ahead economies as a result.
Estonia, a country our Prime Minister greatly admires, came out top of the index for its overall tax mix, although its corporate rate is still a stiff 22% compared to some others.
I’m certainly not advocating that we get our number down into the teens. But at 28%, and 31st out of 38 in the OECD for corporate rates, we are not even in the game and deserve to be a relatively low-growth, low-prosperity nation.
Indeed, while our overall tax mix serves us well given our blend of individual, consumption and low-to-zero property taxes, our 28% corporate tax is well above the OECD average of 24.2%. As BusinessNZ says, we are “now well out of step with our peers and [this] is holding back investment. Australia, the UK and Canada all sit at or below 25 to 26%”.
Our mainly centre-right politicians have long loved to talk about the economic miracles of Estonia, Singapore and Ireland. But these countries all cut corporate taxes – a crucial ingredient in their high growth and prosperity cakes. Just 30 or so years ago, all were paupers compared to us. Ireland’s story is particularly galling, given its rise from a nation of poor pig farmers to a tech, financial and pharma superpower that leaves us in the dust.
I also think of Mr Trump, a true Kiwi favourite. Despite all he’s thrown at the US economy, from tariffs to war, with general craziness on the side, huge corporate tax relief has helped its economy stay strong, and at least partly explains why its tech and AI boom is second to none.
I acknowledge there’s one major flaw in my argument. “How do we pay for the reduction in taxes?”, I hear you ask. Personally, I’d stop pussy-footing around with minor spending cuts and, at the start of a new electoral term, swiftly remove a handful of oversized spending programmes to give us billions in room to move. That is my prescription for the right.
For the left, which tends to like large public programmes more, there’s also a compelling prescription. Introduce the capital gains tax we arguably need, along with the corporate tax reductions we also deserve and under which we would flourish. One could pay for the other.
I accept there’s not much, if any, cash from a CGT anytime soon, given the current property market, but this should change. The reform could be pitched as long-term and working fiscally over a decade or longer.
For National, cutting spending and taxes would put substance behind its long-term claim to be the party of lower taxes. For Labour, the tax switch would fit its historical view of itself as the party with the courage to do what New Zealand needs.
The CGT/corporate tax cut offering could be positioned alongside other nation-building Labour reforms, such as floating the dollar, removing agricultural subsidies, corporatising state-owned enterprises, creating the Super Fund and KiwiSaver, and separating Telecom.
I’m not alone in my vote for bringing down corporate taxes. BusinessNZ’s message is entirely right, and I echo its recent call for “every party to put a credible pathway on lowering the company tax rate back on the table this election”.
I’m on the record as saying energy reform is New Zealand’s No 1 economic issue.
But corporate tax reduction is a close second, unless we’re going to give up on climbing the OECD league tables and on our desire for our young to enjoy relative prosperity like their forebears.
Conservative thinker Douglas Murray wrote a column in the United Kingdom recently bemoaning the new Prime Minister, Andy Burnham, and really all and sundry, for their lack of higher purpose and any understanding of why they’re even in Parliament.
“An ambition to make Britain rich would be a noble endeavour – the sort of thing that would justify someone roaring to political power. But that doesn’t seem to be on anyone’s agenda. A little bit of tinkering around social media rules seems to be the most our politicians aspire to,” Murray wrote.
Sound familiar? Let’s be bold and ambitious. Let’s lower our company tax rate.
He knows from grilling Jacinda ardern? She couldn’t grill a cheese sandwich.
well he actually did a good job of that, Sooty, against all odds. His podcasts were really good most days.
Get rid of paying for racist policies and other mumbo jumbo, get out of the Climate scam, and reward innovation and hard working Kiwis. Very simple actually.
David Farrar: Green MP says Govt MPs are worse than Adolf Eichmann!!
A speech in Parliament by Green MP Steve Abel which is so deranged, that it should make him inadmissible for ministerial office. In response to the bill which simply states climate change policy is to be formulated by Parliament, not the courts, Steve Abel said:
This is simply outrageous. The media should be all over this. He actually says Government MPs who vote for this law are more evil than Adolf Eichmann. It is an absolute insult to victims of the Holocaust that he trivialises their slaughter by saying Government MPs are comparable to Eichmann.
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/…/green_mp_says_govt_mps_are…
IIRC Steve was the grandson of Stuart Abel who built the empire of Abels, making all sorts of consumer products. indeed
Abels Ltd was a prominent food manufacturing business on Carlton Gore Road in Newmarket, Auckland, best known for producing margarine, shortenings, and consumer snacks. [1, 2]
History and Operations
so you can find out about these things. Steve is a trust fund noddy .
I’m sure he was abused as a child.
If he wasn’t, he should be know!
He blames carbon dioxide for his hair loss.
I’m fairly sure he was Vladimir Lenin in an earlier life.
Hipkins was so excited to meet his idol Klaus Schwab, leader of the WEF – World Economic Forum – their catch cry is You will own Nothing and be Happy. Despite helping write policy for the WEF, Christopher Luxon denies ever having heard of the outfit. Both main parties are infiltrated and not worthy of your votes.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1403845628513009&set=a.431195612444687
the comments are not noice. ha.
That was in Tianjin, China, in June 2023, is facebook running slow or has someone just found the picture?
Whatever, it actually looks like Hipkins is crying for help.
No but these things get brought back for reminders. Others find them
I thought it was a snap taken at WEF HQ on pay day.
Hipkins was just given his bonus!
I saw Willy Jackson on Q&A last night.
I have come to the conclusion that Willy Jackson is not the dumbest man in New Zealand but I am of the opinion that Willie hopes he doesn’t die and leave the position vacant for Willie.
What a fucking racist lunatic.
A great Tainui follower of the “superior genes”, well just being superior despite the previous sentences.
“If it coincides, it coincides,” he [Judge] said.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/crime-and-justice/1179170/hamilton-shoplifter-says-she-can-go-where-i-want-after-being-caught-by-police
Seems to be a “tikanga” jurisprudence in the Judiciary in allowing application for “home detention”.
i only saw a few snippets but yup the guy is a low iq racist moron.
thats what decades of blaming whitey does to someone, also he blatantly told us to watch out for labours new creative names for co gov and handing everything to maori.
His Sister is my neighbour SB and I can advise that she is an direct clone of Willy and equally as Dumb.
The straight line lineage of arrogance, racism and dumbness should be medically studied as this family lineage is an absolute rarity.
Used to be called inbreeding in the old days. Does she look as Indian as her brother?
Yep, the same but has carpet burns on her knuckles as well.
Not her knees aswell?
As well proven during the Arden’ic terms, like “3 Waters” multiplied to “10 Waters”
Then Luxons creative new name for “Local Water Done Well” and as we see by systemic “Wellington Water” turning into Waitangi Tribunal “obligations” following the ruts of iwi control via “Tiaki Wai”
So one day or other this will be set up
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/regions_wellington/1169833/government-imposes-10-years-of-performance-requirements-on-tiaki-wai
But remember the name is very good & gifted, with a ribbon of costs for consultations etc.. with “whoe-ever”.
any ysb folk here with starlink mini they use as a portable setup for likes camping, driving, boat etc?
I just installed in the van a wireless nation modem for my tap n go anz phone app to take money from sales. Also switched the home wifi 2 mobile phones and unlimited broadband for $138 a month
Spark was charging $190 a month without the second wifi modem
The new system uses the spark mobile phone network.
Just the mobile modem on its own was $90 a month, but when I switched the home and mobile phones they reduced everything to $138
We have a 2 degrees wireless modem which we take away in our caravan. (not meant to). But it works had it for 3 years. Unlimited $60. We have prepay phones $13 a month. I think we get 1 gig of data on those and free phone calls, which we don’t use much anyway. Hubby likes to watch Netflix etc.
if i was in coverage id go that route but it probably dosent cover western australia or the nz backcountry tho.
spark is rippoff, i told mrs sb other day we need to shop around for better deal and also our coverage here at home has gone to fucking shit since the big wind storm last year and even worse after the 3g network got shut down.
We have unifone for house wifi seems to work great . They are mosgiel and balclutha based , and then just get a big phone plan for you
Oh we had a choice about these things.
REYKJAVIK, Iceland (AP) — Iceland’s voters rejected restarting negotiations to join the European Union in a referendum that pitted concerns about geopolitical stability against keeping national control of Iceland’s prized fisheries, officials said Sunday.
Opponents defeated the measure by a margin of 52.8% to 47.2%, the National Electoral Commission said. The result puts the divisive issue to rest for now — more than a decade after a euroskeptic government ended EU talks that had begun after the 2008 financial crisis.
The vote Saturday was held in the shadow of repeated threats by U.S. President Donald Trump to take control of nearby Greenland. Although Iceland is a NATO member, supporters said European solidarity would provide greater protection if Trump ever made similar threats toward the volcanic island.
Iceland’s left-leaning coalition government, elected in 2024, moved up the EU referendum it had planned for next year after Trump mistakenly named Iceland four times while speaking about his designs on Greenland.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/361026998/icelandic-voters-reject-proposal-restart-negotiations-t
Chopper pilot Mark Law’s new memoir has been released. As expected it revolves around the 2019 White Island eruption rescues & the subsequent persecution of the pilots & companies involved by the arseholes of Worksafe.
It is a book which I fully intend to read but meantime https://newsroom.co.nz/2026/08/31/mark-law-on-jacinda-ardern/ have penned a review. Surprisingly for an media organisation, which is so blatantly biased to the Left that its “journalists” walk in circles, it takes a swing at the high priestess of everything left, one Jacinda Ardern.
The arch bitch gets a pasting from Mark Law which is unsurprising since she nearly bankrupted him. What is surprising is that Newsroom published the critique.
If I was in govt, the first cost cutting would be getting rid of Health and Safety. Bunch of useless twats who just make people’s lives miserable.
Yeah I don’t l buy many books, but will be getting that one.
dom harveys podcast had him on aswell, bloody good interview/yarn
oops, it was between two beers podcast not doms
Ken Cao gives a background to the disaster in Nepal/ Tibet. Really interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqUj-SWufg8&t=329s
How many farmers might rethink their vote for National ? Are there many rural electorates, currently held by National, that are held by a low margin?
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politics_election-2026/1193765/pm-christopher-luxon-says-staying-in-paris-climate-deal-non-negotiable-in-coalition-negotiations
He is a fucking idiot.
I was going to post re: the cartoon about Te Pati Maori et al, that National was missing from the list.
Dead right ROL, the man is a fucking idiot and working extremely hard to lose the Election to a bunch of even bigger Losers (with a capital L).
He obviously failed in schoolboy English as the Drongo can’t read a room.
To be fair AH, it is more than difficult to think of others when focused on the sunshine blasting from his own arsehole. 😏
Luxon said this according to the unreliable RNZ and Commenter here, John Campbell.
“It’s in New Zealand’s interest to be in the Paris Agreement, because as soon as we would come out, we’re in bad company, there’s only four countries that have pulled out,” he said.
Doing so would make the country poorer, because New Zealand products would be “kicked off the shelves” overseas, Luxon said.”
WG, that is unmitigated Bullshit and if so what useless Trade Agreements we have.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/1193765/pm-christopher-luxon-says-staying-in-paris-climate-deal-non-negotiable-in-coalition-negotiations
Unreliable? How can you possibly make such horrible comments about the world’s greatest living journalist, loved by women and feared by fish wherever I go! I almost cried when I read that, in fact I’m so traumatized I’m going to have a cup of chamomile tea, loosen my man bun and practice my breathing exercises until I calm down and stop shaking. See you all in a few hours.
Been raining again then?
As always.
either position on it is simply a virtue signal, theres real life consequences for staying and leaving.
while i think luxtard wholeheartedly believes in the climate scam i also believe he knows the consequences of missing the targets will be dialed back and less economic impact then leaving the scam.
its not like we’re big enough to bully and threaten the world with tariffs or war should there be repercussions from ditching the paris crap.
plus if the penalties for missing the 2030 targets do look like theyll be imposed itll become a hot election issue in 2029, luxon will be gone so the party could (unlikely) change tack and pledge to withdraw while letting labour etc campaign on throwing billioms per year at the virtue signal
2030 Luxon will definitely be gone!
That Luxon is a weak fool is not an assertion likely to attract argument on this forum. What has to be stated though is that barriers to free trade in agricultural produce are everywhere & any overt displays of common sense over the Paris crap will be seized upon by the WEF funded Green lunatics to punish those who don’t want to drink the Kool-Aid.
The city folk overseas who eat what we produce think that meat appears by magic on supermarket trays & butter comes out of a fridge ready wrapped. They actually believe that polar bears are grasping at ice cubes vanishing in a boiling ocean. They think weather is climate.
They also vote.
Luxon needs to shut his gob about his dislike of Trump’s policies when speaking to his international liaisons. The US know exactly who spoke negatively and what was said. Trump remembers all criticism. We are a tiny country who can’t afford to lose trade or have increased tariffs imposed by the US.
Twice in recent days I have heard them talking about the Paris Accord/ETS on The Country ( Jamie McKay’s radio program). All talking very negatively about them –getting out of it etc. Maybe this is why Luxon has bought the issue up.
I asked Grok.
If New Zealand withdrew from the Paris Climate accord, what are the penalties if any and who will enact such penalties? Who will any penalties go to and why?
There is **no fine, no invoice, and no international court that can charge New Zealand a penalty for leaving the Paris Agreement**.
Withdrawal is written into the treaty. It is a legal exit, not a crime.
### How withdrawal works
Article 28 of the Paris Agreement: after the deal has been in force for that country for three years, it may give **written notice** to the UN Secretary-General. The exit takes effect **one year later**.
The United States has already used that process. No UN body levied a fine. No country was paid “damages for leaving.”
Withdrawing from the parent treaty (the 1992 UN climate convention) would also take New Zealand out of Paris automatically. That is a separate, heavier step.
### Who could punish New Zealand under Paris itself?
**Nobody with a cash penalty.**
The Paris compliance body (Article 15) is required to be **“non-adversarial and non-punitive.”** It can talk, advise, and help with reporting. It cannot fine, sanction, or seize assets.
Nationally Determined Contributions (NDCs) are political pledges with a duty to *have* a target and to report. Missing a target is not treated like defaulting on a loan.
So: **no penalties to collect, and no one to pay them to**, under the Agreement.
### What people mean when they talk about “consequences”
Those are **political, commercial, and legal-risk** effects, not a Paris fine.
Leaving Paris does **not** by itself repeal New Zealand’s domestic climate law. Those are separate.
An International Court of Justice **advisory opinion** (2025) said climate treaties create real legal duties and that failure to act *could* in principle lead to reparations between states. That is not a withdrawal fee, has not been used as a bill for exiting Paris, and would still need a state to bring a case and win.
### Direct answer
– **Penalties in the treaty for withdrawing:** none.
– **Who enacts them:** no one.
– **Who would the money go to, and why:** it would not. There is no pot, no UN climate fine, and no prescribed recipient.
The live argument in New Zealand is about **markets, alliances, and domestic law**, not about writing a cheque to Paris. Whether those trade and reputation risks are large or overstated is a political judgment. The legal fact is that Paris does not bill countries for walking out.
I think luxon is scaremongering on this.
Ask Grok about NZ’s obligations under the EU, Britain, Canada, Australian. Is there a pact for CC?
I would challenge Nude Nut to just name one Country that has said they will not deal with us, if New Zealand withdraws from the Paris Accord.
Chrome Dome couldn’t, so why wait, just get out of this Accord which is crippling this Country.
alot of our trade agreements involve adhereing to the paris agreement.
while there is no consequence from the actual withdrawing from paris there are many other flow on consequences involving our trading partners. hence why in the original link luxon says about nz goods being pulled from shelves.
any exports heading to europe esp will be at risk, probs cost us more then the 5bil virtue signal…
look at the big picture not the narrow minded shit you lot focus on.
And that shit was put in there by us . Its probably a good way to get out of shit trade deals.
here Ed, tell your mate grok to sort its shit cuz google ai beats it
Trade and Economic Risks
Free Trade Agreement Breaches: Exiting the accord or significantly backsliding on climate commitments violates environmental provisions in New Zealand’s free trade agreements with the European Union and the United Kingdom.
Trade Retaliation: Major partners can legally pursue dispute processes, suspend trade concessions, or apply broad retaliatory tariffs and quotas against New Zealand exports.
Market Access: Exporters risk losing shelf space overseas if international regulators or multinationals penalize the country for dropping core environmental standards.
You do know that Gooogle is all woke and will agree fully with climate change bullshit.
yup theyre all biased and mostly woke, point is you asked it a question and it failed…. or maybe the one asking grok the question failed?
confirmation bias doesnt do you any good
Agree Gemini is much woker then Grok.
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🚩Luxon has stuffed up again this morning.
He’s commited National to the marxist global managed decline, and temporarily loses the ability to speak when Hosking asked him about NZF’s latest candidate Craig Stobo, it’s hilarious – Luxon turns to jelly.
More seriously, he has foolishly laid out a bottom line – “Paris will not be negotiable”
The insane Paris climate agreement has and continues to destroy countless economies around the world.
Act wants to tinker with Paris, Winston Peters wants to leave it entirely – Luxon has just said that any government he leads – that won’t be happening will stay in Paris AT ALL COSTS . The reason is because “It will mean we don’t comply with climate obligations in our FTA’s ….
Hang on, Didn’t Luxon say that the UNDRIP and Paris inclusions in the awful India FTA meant nothing ? and that “they put those provisions in all the agreements, but we can ignore them”
None of this makes sense does it ?
Channelling Ardern he says Climate change is the biggest threat to the Pacific “absolutely”
Oh BTW 15-19 year old unemployment rate is now over 25%, and Luxon is about to flood is with uncapped Indian Students with guaranteed work rights through the FTA.
This morning on the platform, Richard Prebble stated “ It’s almost like Luxon wants to lose
too right that it seems nats are actually trying to lose.
maybe theyre waking up to the fact its too fucked to fix so why bother staying to be paid peanuts when they can go abroad and make millions.
I suspect he has been told by his WEF handlers to lose the election so Labour and its allies can complete the destruction of the country.
It’s a competition by Labour to find the worlds greatest nincompoop as leader.
They are all following the same Managed Decline of their country’s economy, etc. Will they go lower.
NZ: Chippy
Aus: Albo
UK: Burnham (the nob of the North)
Can: Carney
As an aside “the most popular US republican presidents” have recently been released in a poll: Trump 53% Lincoln 8% Reagan 18%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grd41aORKsQ
CNN stunned as poll shows Republicans ‘admire’ Trump far more than Reagan and Lincoln
Just who are the Foundations, sort of easy to figure some in the USA.
This joins more dots of knowledge that some of us already knew.
Trump Declares War on the Foundations Cartel: Bessent’s Plan to End the Dark Money Empire
https://youtu.be/dq8vNyOH53c
17 mins : Aug. 31. 2026 : Promethian Overviews : Mike Steger
Can read a bit about the points made just below the vid.
It does beg the question to consider, how connected to a Foundation is Promethian? or are they truly independent?
In other set-ups one can see how they are infiltrated, so then the new “directors” have the lifestyle, & sell out the original intentions to follow another ideology.
One can also consider how deep with in NZ, a similar set up is also being developed.
A poll on X
Chris Luxon Poll
How would you describe Chris Luxon the most ?
Finally! All these years & now a poll where I agree with the majority.
so just an average politician then
No. He’s worse. Most of them are incompetent & many are arrogant beyond belief. Alopecia Jesus entered NZ politics the same way as the wooden horse entered Troy.
And for the same reason.