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  1. Concerning the ‘Virus, Vaccination etc, this letter (Found on another forum) might be of interest, especially thia sentence:

    ‘COVID-19 vaccine is voluntary and vaccines may not be forcibly administered’..

    On the basis of this, it will be very interesting to see what ‘coercion’ (Because there will be some) will be used by those involved in tomorrow’s lunatic ‘Vaxxathon’ – and how long the HRC will tke to respond to any complaints that it receives. (I wouldn’t hold your breath that it will be quick)

    https://www.nzscu.nz/post/a-win-for-nz-with-the-human-rights-commission?fbclid=IwAR20g2Gkv2O9e9qyYt5CYwOapdLDyHY_eYIiA_Cubup3Uo7brdzt9THaEl8&postId=b2889b43-ea62-4f17-9b6e-8c9fd002b5e8

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      • It redirects to https://www.hrc.co.nz/how-we-can-help/

        But there is this tab so maybe they just shifted it to a more visible area.
        https://www.hrc.co.nz/resources/human-rights-relation-covid-19/

        However, it appear that it no long supports the right to choose and not be discriminated against:

        A recent case in the High Court provides a useful example of how the Courts approach these questions. The case was a judicial review of the COVID-19 Public Health Response (Vaccinations) Order 2021 by a former Customs worker who lost their job after they refused to get vaccinated for Covid-19. As part of the judicial review, the High Court considered whether the Order infringed on the right to be free from discrimination under the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act.

        Ultimately, the High Court decided that it did not. In coming to this conclusion, the judge wrote “the Court’s task in this case is to balance the benefit of the vaccine and the risk of being unvaccinated against any discrimination in relation to those affected”.

        The judge went on to say that if the benefits of the vaccine outweighed the potential discrimination against the affected employee, then the limitation of rights under the Order was proportionate and justified under the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act. In this case, the judge decided the scientific support for the vaccine and the benefits of the Order to the wider community outweighed any potential discrimination against that employee.

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    • Komata,

      The moment we consent, we legitimise their crimes.

      “If you believe that you have the right to force me—use your guns openly. I will not help you to disguise the nature of your action.” ― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

      “From the first extortion he had accepted, from the first directive he had obeyed, he had given them cause to believe that reality was a thing to be cheated, that one could demand the irrational and someone somehow would provide it.” ― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

      On lock downs, vaccines, masks, and bad government in general.

      “Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted—and you create a nation of law-breakers—and then you cash in on guilt.” ― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

      On the state of mind lock down creates:

      “The only pride of her workday was not that it had been lived, but that it had been survived. It was wrong, she thought, it was viciously wrong that one should ever be forced to say that about any hour of one’s life.” ― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

      And for the incestuous sexually deviant cesspit that is an intrinsic part of the left:

      “They think that your body creates a desire and makes a choice for you just about in some such way as if iron ore transformed itself into railroad rails of its own volition. Love is blind, they say; sex is impervious to reason and mocks the power of all philosophers. But, in fact, a man’s sexual choice is the result and the sum of his fundamental convictions. Tell me what a man (or woman) finds sexually attractive and I will tell you his (or her) entire philosophy of life.” ― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged (brackets added by me)

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  2. Morning all, nice looking day up this way, a bit cool at the moment but should warm up later. Even the forecast for the weekend is looking good, as long as I remember to avoid that vaxathon bullshit. I wonder what dear leader will do to rain on my parade this time?

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  3. Cindy’s to do list today:
    . Lie
    .Tell more lies.
    . Hide somewhere to avoid hard questions.
    .Visit the vet to get teeth cleaned for the Vaxathon.
    . Lunch, tell more lies and knock off at 2 PM.

    Have a great day, you miscreants.

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  4. And the leaders have no sympathy.
    Well not if they are socialists cunts like Goff.

    Illegal Auckland parkers face tickets during lockdown after political nudge
    A crackdown on illegal parking in Auckland’s city centre begins on Friday, after political and resident pressure forced an end to minimal enforcement during Covid-19 alert levels 4 and 3.

    Auckland Transport (AT) had maintained until midweek that it would only ticket where safety was an issue, or in response to complaints of obstruction, but succumbed to mounting complaints.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/local-government/126673381/covid19-illegal-auckland-parkers-face-tickets-during-lockdown-after-political-nudge?cid=app-iPhone&fbclid=IwAR09A69ruU_uncQjinvZsu6Jx4HY40g3v-boW62WuqPICLbioFRmTbaROUo

    Piss more people off. That’s the way.

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  5. Good morning YSB bloggers.

    How’s life this lovely sunny day on Devils Island (formerly Aotearoa, formally New Zealand, formerly New Ulster, New Munster and New Leinster formally Nova Zeelandia, formerly Nieuw Zeeland, formally Staten Landt, formerly He-mea-hī-nō-Māui and Te Wai Pounamu)?

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  6. Morning Troopers,

    Cahill on Hosking just now, spilled the beans that the two ladies from Auckland, who have been causing upset in Northland, are sex workers. I wonder why those at the Podium of TRUTH don’t have this information. Fucking liars.

    How can they expect compliance, when they stand up there and bullshit us?

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  7. Will this mornings news be a calling this muslim a Lone Wolf? when really a Known Wolf ! ! !
    The jihadi bow & arrow killer in Norway.

    The suspect, who has not been identified, had converted to Islam and police had been worried about signs of his radicalisation, regional police chief Ole Bredrup Saeverud told a news conference.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/suspect-norway-bow-and-arrow-killings-is-danish-man-police-say-2021-10-14/

    A magazine quiver full of arrows, has New Zealand got any laws how many can be in a quiver?

    … Police said the Danish man suspected of the attack is a Muslim convert who was previously flagged as having been radicalised. …..

    …. Three police patrols rushed to the scene but were not armed and needed to seek permission to use guns carried in their vehicles before confronting the attacker.

    Chiefs confirmed he “probably” launched into his deadly spree after cops arrived — and escaped after sending them fleeing with a volley of arrows without them returning fire. ….
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16416608/norway-bow-arrow-attack-convert-islam/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunmaintwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1634201690-1

    Would the likes here in New Zealand say the police escalated the problem when they arrived ?
    Being muslim is following the commands of an ever so Religion of Peace? ….. Riiiiggghhttt ….

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    • and now a UK politician has been stabbed by “a Somali man”. Wonder if it is a random line wolf attack…
      Calls now for MPs to get bodyguards, while the peasants have to take their chances as self defence is de facto banned.
      Wonder if it will wake up any of the pollies? I doubt reality can make its way through the cloud of Smug that surrounds them.

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  8. As we say,” Follow the money”

    Russell McVeagh shutting the door to unvaccinated staff, clients and visitors
    Russell McVeagh​ says it will ban anyone entering its offices who has not had both Covid-19 vaccination jabs, from November 1.

    That includes clients, staff and other visitors.

    “From November 1, only those people who have received both doses of the Covid-19 vaccine will be able to come into our offices,” chief executive Jo Avenell​ said.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/126687567/russell-mcveagh-shutting-the-door-to-unvaccinated-staff-clients-and-visitors

    1. Will that improve their past behaviour patterns and bonking the ladies? Public Knowlege etc.
    2. We are also free to take our money and run.
    3. Why would any commercial entity piss off their customers?
    4. Who said at anytime that lawyers ever know anything about science? Ever?
    5. What research other than Facebook have their lawyers done?
    6. What Information have they gathered from ALL sources to make this decision?
    7 What drives this piece of work? Follow the money back.
    8. Are they friends of Phizer or the Govt.? Simple question to answer.

    There probably is a 9 & 10.
    You can add to the list.

    The rest of us have work to do and the suns up and the world goes on.

    Oh and watch out for MPI and their dirty tricks.

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    • Viking its a rediculous rule, unvaxxed= no entry but theyll come visit you in your unmasked unvaxxed premises.

      Same with many other businesses, down here ag aervices for example are mask nazis if you enter their workshop or parts area but they come out onfarm no masks and no worries for them to come in and have smoko or lunch with all of us. Its just virtue signalling and arse covering

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    • Last night a Southland dairy farmer had discussions about this:-

      Why is the government MPI trying to set up through regulation that if a farm owner, or share milker gets Covid, then the milk has to go down the drain, as it supposedly runs the risk of being contaminated.

      Still the Companies say they will collect the milk, but sounds like a lot argie bargie over this. ….

      If the government can test & find Covid in sewerage, then do so,… but I can not see how this will get into milk.
      Then there is pasteurization or simply send that milk to the high heat, drying for milk powder.

      MPI states the farmers must have a business contingency plan, in case they or their staff get Covid.
      Who? Staff? Close down? Insurance companies will not cover losses or such.

      Another insane abundance of precaution of “Discourse Consensus” dreamt up by techno-bureau-crats.

      I knew of last year, that during the first lock down, the health ministry wanted to stop all staff and people going onto dairy farms, but fortunately that was batted off, after much strong argument, down in Wellington.
      The answer was that surprised me was that it was Grant Robinson stopped the dairy shut down. He could see the hit on all of New Zealand would be so severe, NO overseas funds from dairying! and the financial markets, the $ would have been shot, & most of all, that borrowing would have been stopped in its tracks so his willynilly spending would be stopped.

      Animal welfare of getting lambs, sheep & cattle had to be strongly argued, to basically how do you feed them into a winter, when grass slows or stop. They did keep the freezing works open.
      Recall the issue for the pork industry had have special dispensation so the pigs could be killed & processed, as more piglets were being born.

      They did stop the dagging, crutching, shearing of sheep, by outside staff, though it was quietly worked around, then pressure built for the animal welfare, to loosen up.

      Lets hope that commonsense prevails, though it seems to be always adding more regulation, though it seems they have backed down, or have they?
      Their understanding of things, the sheer incompetence, beggars belief.

      After the interview a number of ken & karens pop up that farmers should just be jabbed, and think that they are special people. etc etc.. that is cut out of the audio.
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/nights/audio/2018816450/farmers-told-neighbours-can-milk-cows-if-covid-hits
      13 mins 43 secs.
      At least she allows time for the guy to answer.

      Nah,, go for the carbon credits, if a farmer can get a contract for carbon, with government guarantees, that also ties into increase inflation wise, go for it and plant it into trees. ! !

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  9. couldn’t resist.
    Just posted.

    The elimination edifice is being dismantled — the Government might as well lean into it
    An uncharacteristically prickly Grant Robertson took to the 1pm update on Thursday making several things clear: Covid is here to stay, and case rates are expected to grow more sharply.

    That will mean, the Deputy Prime Minister said, that both self-isolation at home for people who get Covid is on the cards shortly, as is movement on the MIQ arrangements at the border.

    What we are now seeing is the real-time dismantling of the whole edifice of regulations and controls that have governed and sustained the elimination strategy. The pace of the change is clearly being driven by the reality of the outbreak and the continued increase of case numbers.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/126685369/covid19-the-elimination-edifice-is-being-dismantled–the-government-might-as-well-lean-into-it

    Well we knew that was going to come.

    toss the bastards out and wring a few knecks.

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  10. I have a Browning Mirage compound hunting bow I purchased new in 1990, it was way ahead of its time performance wise but unfortunately was quite stressed out and notoriously unreliable if used a lot (practice shots) .
    When wound up to 80lbs it would fire a carbon arrow at 315 foot per second, now I may have to hide or bury it in my back yard if our vacuous skinny stick insect PM stops for a few minutes from organising her Vaxxathon and reads about the mad Muslim in Norway that went on a killing spree with his bow and arrows,,Ffuuucckk.

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      • Saggy ,yes but only small game and a few goats ,it was just to bloody temperamental to rely on , it was actually bordering on being a trigger only bow and I was shooting it with my fingers which probably didn’t help.
        To be fair it wasn’t my best choice of bows and looking back I should’ve given up on it months before I actually did.

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    • Note that Norway has still not banned semi auto rifles ten years after Anders Brevik carried out his attack. They decided to consider any legislation changes very carefully unlike our own equine creature and realized that banning semi autos would be an expensive and futile exercise which was not in the public interest. Some years later, of course, New Zealand has proved that they were correct.

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      • Banning semi auto rifles was Green party policy, and probably Labour policy as well. The pigs had been pushing for it and the other changes for years, as per their select committee submissions 2 years before.
        Tarrant just provided the excuse, since kiwi gun owners were to law abiding to provide a plausible reason.
        National, being the blue colored wing of thr Labour party, had no objections.

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  11. Isnt it odd that new variants popped up every month or 2 but since delta theres nothing new? The more a virus transmits higher the probability of mutation so how come the most transmisable delta hasnt undergone a mutation yet and formed a new scariant? Garunteed to surface just as pfizers sales tank…

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      • Ed@0852

        Re: ‘All [those] …who will be rushing out this weekend to get their clot shot have been totally brainwashed by the delta variant’

        A broad statement that is unfortunately not totally accurate as there are now some organisations / businesses in this country that have adopted a ‘No Jab, No Job’ policy for new staff and are enforcing it to the letter.

        As a result there are some ‘anti-vaxxers’ who have absolutely NO choice but to comply, especially if they are in specialised / limited-opportunity professions / trades.

        They don’t want to, but because they have bills to pay, what are their options?

        Not sure of the legality of such practices (See my earlier post), but it is certainly being done and apparently becoming more widespread.

        Thought you might like to know…

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  12. Murphy drops some buttered toast on the kitchen floor. It lands butter-side-up.

    He looks at what he has done in astonishment, for he knows it’s a law of nature that buttered toast always falls butter-down. He rushes round to the presbytery to fetch the priest. He tells the priest that he thinks a miracle has happened round at his flat. He won’t say what it is but wants Father Flannigan to see it with his own eyes. He brings Father Flanagan into the kitchen and asks him what he sees on the floor.

    Said the priest “it’s pretty obvious what we have here. Someone dropped some buttered toast, and then for some reason flipped it over so that the butter was on top”.

    “No, Father, I dropped it and it landed like that”.

    “Well” Father Flannigan says “it’s certainly a natural law of the universe that dropped toast never falls butter side up. But it’s not for me to say it’s a miracle. I’ll report the matter to the bishop, and have him send people round, to interview you, take photos, etc”.

    An investigation of some rigour is conducted, not only by priests of the archdiocese, but by scientists sent from the Curia in Rome. The final ruling is a negative, however. it reads…

    “It was certainly an extraordinary event that occurred in Murphy’s room, quite outside the normal run of the phenomena. Yet we have to be very cautious before ruling any happening miraculous, ruling out all possible natural explanations. In this case we have declared no miracle. For it possibly resulted from Murphy having buttered the toast on the wrong side”

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  13. A guy comes home completely drunk one night. He lurches through the door and is met by his scowling wife, who is most definitely not happy.
    “Where the hell have you been all night?” she demands.
    “At this new bar,” he says. “The Golden Saloon. Everything there is golden. It’s got huge golden doors, a golden floor and even the urinal’s gold!”
    The wife still doesn’t believe his story, and the next day checks thephone book, finding a place across town called the Golden Saloon.
    She calls up the place to check her husband’s story.
    “Is this the Golden Saloon?” she asks when the bartender answers the phone.
    “Yes it is,” bartender answers.
    “Do you have huge golden doors?”
    “Sure do.” “Do you have golden floors?”
    “Most certainly do.”
    “What about golden urinals?”
    There’s a long pause, then the woman hears the bartender yelling, “Hey, Duke, I think I got a lead on the guy that pissed in your saxophone last night!”

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  14. This was inevitable Cindy. Vulnerable people still have to go out but may not be able to stand up to the bullies. Where does that leave them – isolated with even bigger problems. Not kind Cindy.

    Increase in people exploiting mask exemptions while vulnerable people denied entry to shops
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/10/increase-in-people-exploiting-mask-exemptions-while-vulnerable-people-denied-entry-to-shops.html

    Meanwhile, disability advocates say vulnerable people with legitimate exemptions are being traumatised by being denied access to shops.

    Disabled Persons Assembly NZ chief executive Prudence Walker said she was gutted and lost for words that people were abusing the system.

    Last week, a worker at a Blenheim organisation that provides photocopying services told RNZ they fielded dozens of requests to print off illegitimate exemption documents in just a single day.

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  15. The totalitarians have enlisted the services of another half-wit academic, this time a Prof Rod Jackson from Auckland University. Being a super intelligent type of propagandist he has scraped the bottom of the barrel to come up with a new slogan for the sub 80 IQ set:

    ‘Don’t be a dick, get the prick’

    Which begs the retort:

    ‘Forget the spin & wipe your chin.’

    The meek & those who print slogans on T Shirts shall inherit the Earth. 🙂

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  16. When it comes to doing their civil duty & getting clotshotted residents of the Chatham Islands have much to teach us. Latest figures from the Ministry of Health indicate that 87.78% have received their second shot & no less than 112.78% have had their first.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/126685104/governments-covid19-policies-set-to-drastically-change-within-weeks

    As a natural cynic your correspondent suggests that all verbiage from the MoH via the Podium of Truth be scrutinised accordingly.

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  17. Just had an interesting talk with a neighbour and his wife. (Wanted to know whether he wanted to go out for a fish tomorrow.) There was an electrician working at their house and they tell me that he wasn’t allowed on to the property unless he was vaccinated. Turns out both are fully fledged Covidians and when I told them that I had no intentions of getting the shot we ended up in a fairly uncomfortable discussion. Guess I won’t be sharing space with him on the boat anytime in the future.

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    • That might be a blessing in disguise. The contagious newly vaccinated shed the pathogen just as easily as someone with Covid.

      My immune system is both compromised (but getting better). It has also been incredibly sensitive in the last 3 years, something my Dr can’t explain, and it was happening before Covid. Several times since the vaccinations started, I have been in the company of newly vaccinated people or groups.

      In some cases they have been coughing, spluttering, lost their voice, run down, etc. And it takes me days to recover.
      Most telling however, is the ones that have no symptoms, yet I feel run down afterwards anyway.

      It’s annoying being a vaccine barometer!

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      • I have a sensitive immune system so can relate. I spent time with a newly clotshotted person back in September and had an increased heart rate for 5 days. I’m not willing to subject my immune system to their spike protein experiment.

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        • Yes WG,

          And those indignant vaccinated turkeys have the gall to state that we are a threat to them, when the reverse is true.

          “You must get a security alarm system and an 8ft high razor top fence around your property. Otherwise you, with no alarm and no 8ft high razor top fence, puts us that have them at risk.

          Our alarm and our 8ft high razor top fence won’t stop burglars and home invaders until everyone has them.”

          I’m beginning to think that the parasites in the vaccines are taking over peoples’ minds. Its either that or they have started putting mercury in hat bands again. Aka mad hatters. Or maybe its the Graphene Oxide, or perhaps re-runs of “Are you being served”, or that God Awful TV series “1pm Updates”.
          “https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12511606/?ref_=nm_flmg_slf_1

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  18. Stupidity at its finest…
    Our kids attend a small rural school and wifey helps out on numerous occassions, vax mandates apply to parent volunteers so now shes a danger to our kids and all their freinds that wifey spends lots of time with them and their families outside of school, makes perfect sense shes gunna infect them and kill them all from covid only during school activities!

    School camp at the end of the year and guess who camp cook is supposed to be? They struggled to get enough help as it was, gunna be interesting if they bend the rules or even ask vax status.

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    • Reading that nurses in one city in the USA that had left their hospital because of the V mandate have joined up with nursing agencies….because the hospital is so short staffed as a result, they are now taking on those agency nurses to make up the short fall and are deliberately not asking whether the relief nurses have been vaxed.

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  19. The fear is building up for the covidistas out there. I just had to tell my sister who is well meaning but everyday there is some sort of a message about be careful out there you haven’t been vaccinated bla bla bla but todays message was more direct in the end I just had to say to her that the jab is not going to save you from the covid sorry about that. I know its not a good thing but I look forward to the effects of the vaccine becoming apparent so people can have a good dose of illness and pure bloods are all OK. There will be a few of us who do get it but I really and truely need to know how ill people are that get it. All these people tested and have it but if its just a cold thing what is all the fuss about. If they are very ill well if I could see its effects and not on a really fat person I might understand.

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  20. Mrs C has been watching the select committee hearings on the Covid Response Bill.
    Fair to say that of the 10 or so submitters that we have heard none are in favour.
    It is playing somewhere on Facist Book if any one cares to tune in.

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  21. How are those greeny policies working out?
    “The trucking issue with California LA ports, ie the Port of Los Angeles (POLA) and the Port of Long Beach (POLB), is that all semi tractors have to be current with new California emissions standards. As a consequence, that mean trucks cannot be older than 3 years if they are to pick up or deliver containers at those ports. This issue wipes out approximately half of the fleet trucks used to move containers in/out of the port. Operating the port 24/7 will not cure the issue, because all it does is pile up more containers that sit idle as they await a limited number of trucks to pick them up. THIS is the central issue……”
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/

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  22. Are the clown car throwing taxpayer funding at the SFO to sort out scams they didn’t take precautions to limit in the first place?

    The Serious Fraud Office is looking into “a number” of allegations of abuse of the Government’s Covid-19 wage subsidy.
    https://www.1news.co.nz/2021/10/14/sfo-looking-into-allegations-of-covid-19-wage-subsidy-abuse/

    In a statement on Friday, SFO director Julie Read said the allegations related to “multiple complex cases of potential fraud” that had been referred to the agency following investigations by the Ministry of Social Development.

    It comes after the SFO received funding from the Government last year to specifically tackle fraud arising from the pandemic.

    “We are pleased to be supporting the extensive work already being undertaken by MSD in response to abuse of the Covid-19 wage subsidy, by contributing the expertise of our specialist investigative teams to look into cases of a particularly challenging and complex nature,” she said.

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  23. In at the supermarket this morning and there was a clearly distressed elderly gentleman who was having a vent about this useless government, empty shelves and the inability to get medical services. The shelf stacker said, ‘oh I don’t think it is the government.’ I told him that I agreed with him totally. He would remember the deprivations of the war and be wondering what the hell did ‘we’ go to die for. So sad that the end of his days are spent in hell.

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  24. Relistening to Dr. Mattias Desmet, Professor of Psychology, University of Ghent, and Right2Freedom (Dan Gregory) talking about Why do so many still buy into the narrative. It’s well worth a watch if you haven’t already seen it – and if you have, a rewatch.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/JtGlysbVqwow/

    “One of the hidden secrets of this crisis is that most people don’t want to go back to the old normal. So if we try to wake people up, we should avoid giving them the impression that we want them to go back to the old normal. We should try to show them that there are other ways to change the old normal. That is the most important thing.”
    Dr. Mattias Desmet, Professor of Psychology, University of Ghent

    Essentially, we are finding people are being intolerant of anyone who shares the counter-narrative because it threatens the collective, and the almost holy ritual that has developed by worshiping the vax, “The Truth™” and “the Science™”.

    Because they believe we are the enemy, they channel and direct the free-floating aggression at anyone who dares to raise a dissenting voice. That is why we unvaxxed and/or freedom loving people are such a threat to the collective and why so many of us are being disowned by our loved ones, friends, etc.

    I’m only halfway through the video. However, this very much aligns with the work I am doing in the background, which aimed to help people to “wake up” and to identify their value, purpose and meaning in their lives, so they can take ownership and responsibility of their future. I’m just trying to figure out how we as individuals can do this in a healthy and non-threatening way. Because that is how we will be able to have courageous conversations, and not so many relationship damaging battles.

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    • How does the world go back to normal?
      When’s karen going to stop clutching the curtins?
      Are they going to go mask less, will you get arrested going into ythe bank?
      When are public servants going work in their office?

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      • Sooty, I don’t think the world will go “back” to normal.
        But we have to help break the mass psychosis/formation/hypnotism (however you want to refer to it.

        So, new normal will be when the gubbermints stops being totalitarian.
        When the counter-narrative is allowed to be discussed as well.
        When we the people return to being the ones in the driver’s seat of our lives.

        I did watch something a while back (not sure where or who) where the speaker said one possible future will be society will be more locally/individual/self-sufficiency focused, with small government, and a lot less emphasis on technology – it being used as a tool instead of a baby-sitter, educator and master.

        So, my question to you (and other YSBers), if you were in a position to help decide what a new normal looked like, how would you envisage it?

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  25. Jimmy Shaw, your electric trains in the Glasglow area are going back to diesel.

    Rail freight operators are now reportedly being forced to halt their electric locomotives and revert back to diesel trains in a move set to increase carbon emissions and journey times.
    Logistic firms have said soaring wholesale energy prices and a boost to track access charges has made electric, low-carbon trains impossible to run at an affordable cost.
    The move comes as the COP26 climate summit approaches where world leaders will meet to discuss their climate goals,

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1505800/uk-energy-crisis-electric-trains-diesel-gas-electricity-prices-cop26-climate-change

    Will some of media find out & ask if Jimmy travelled on a fossil fueled train?

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  26. Am I the only one, or have you noticed with the steady rise in vaccinations is a corresponding rise in reported covid cases. With 65 today in Auckland, and super vax saturday tomorrow, who will bet against a dramatic increase in the coming weeks?
    Of course Cindy and co willl blame the unvaccinated for this, but we all know the vaccine is a myth and is not working as promised.

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  27. Clearly the cat is out of the bag.

    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern admits COVID-19 Delta outbreak has grown at pace ‘beyond what we expected’
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/10/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-admits-delta-outbreak-has-grown-at-pace-beyond-what-we-expected.html

    Ardern said earlier this week that some transmission of COVID-19 was happening via food delivery, taxi services and construction sites – all allowed under alert level 3.

    But Deputy Prime Minister Grant Robertson said on Thursday a large proportion of cases were attributed to private indoor gatherings, which is against the rules

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  28. OK Troopers, you heard it here first.
    I reckon the covid queen is preparing for the back-flip of the century, by putting Akld back to level 4. She’s damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t now. The modeler plonkers are telling her we need a circuit breaker. If she doesn’t take their advice, they’ll say they were right, and she didn’t listen to them. If she takes their advice, having told us level 4 is not an option, there’ll be hell to pay. But check out the last sentence below. That’s her building herself some wriggle room to blame it on the health officials.

    “Otago University epidemiologist Dr Amanda Kvaklsvig argues a move back to level 4 is Auckland’s “best and probably only chance” for turning the trend around.

    Kvalsvig believes vaccination is not going to happen fast enough to reverse the trends, “and we need to buy time”.

    Covid-19 modeller Professor Shaun Hendy echoed that call today, and recommended a two-week stint back at level 4.

    “It’s not another go at elimination, it’s an attempt to slow the spread across and outside of Auckland, so that we can boost vaccine coverage,” he told the Herald.

    “If cases get away on us then it’ll be very tough to relax in any way for many months, so better to slow it now, boost vaccine rates, and relax with cases under control.”

    When the Herald put Hendy’s suggestion to Ardern today, she appeared to show no appetite for a shift back to tougher restrictions any time soon.

    She said everyone wanted to bring the virus’ R value down – the latest consensus put this measure of average cases produced from one infection at 1.3.

    “The only question is what’s going to be most effective. Now we’ve been presented with data that tells us that actually things like level 3 – which you would expect, for instance, in workplaces might have an effect – has not been the primary source of growth,” Ardern said.

    “It has been households meeting indoors with one another, which we know is outside the restrictions of both 3 and 4, but unfortunately has been an issue that we’ve seen throughout this outbreak.

    “So for us, it’s about what will work, what makes a difference. And we’ll keep asking our public health advisers for that advice and to date, they have not advised us to change the alert level.”

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    • OkK for these academic morons, who are sitting on a high guaranteed income, to say ‘ suck it up’ for another 2 weeks. All they have to do is look across the ditch ….severe lockdowns have not achieved anything.

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    • Likely if they move Auckland up to L4, they’ll move the rest of the country up to L3. After all, they won’t shift us down a level until they can shift Auckland down a level…

      “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
      Winston Churchill

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    • Number of tests per case:
      USA: 10
      NZ: 4000

      A US case is a case, with symptoms and usually hospitalised.

      An NZ case is someone that tests positive at 30-40 cycles and with 4 x 25 DNA bases, not 1 x 100 contiguous base as dictated by the FDA. And 90% of ‘positives’ are asymptomatic. And all positive tests rely on the operator making a judgement call.

      If you keep testing and testing and testing, including testing people with no symptoms you will eventually “find” what you are looking for. The justice system calls this manufacturing evidence.

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  29. Chris Bishop also weighed in on the party’s recent poor polling, admitting the party has “a lot of work to do” to make up the ground lost to the Act Party.

    ACT party? FFS forget about the ACT party. What about the votes you lost to the Labour Party? You know, the guys on the other side!

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    • Of course they are easy to reach. You can probably buy the tools as a service on the dark web… and your personal health information is worth at least 50 times more than financial information on the black market. So of course these “providers” are looking for customers. Imagine paying someone between $440 and $1,000 and giving them your health records and full access to your medical identity.

      There’s already a host of ‘providers’ offering the service online and only a basic level of internet knowledge is needed to find them. They are looking for customers, so are easy to reach and tend to reply within minutes.

      RT made contact with four different operators on social media. All appear to follow the same procedure; after supplying them with your name, date of birth, address and unique NHS number, they will do the rest.

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  30. So we have level 1,2,3 and 4. Now level 3 is divided into Steps 1,2 and 3. And now we’re going to change that to red, amber and green Are they trying to lose EVERYONE? I think the reason for going to traffic light system is they can stick Auckland straight into Red, which is level 4 by stealth.

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    • IAASB,

      I have long come to the conclusion that when people say that JP Morgan and the Banksters are ‘quaking in their boots’ over bitcoin that it is simply a ruse. It is the Br’er Rabbit story, and JP Morgan probably control the bitcoin market.

      I have no interest in bitcoin. If the system crashes, rolling power outages etc, you might be a Trillionaire in bitcoin but will lack the means to buy a loaf of bread. I get told by “bitcoin pundits” I should get into bitcoin, but as the years roll by, many have lost small fortunes either because the market shifted in a direction they didn’t pick, or one of the many bitcoin exchanges got hacked and they lost it all.

      Occasionally, usually after another pundit tells me I am stupid, I have watched bitcoin values go radically up or down, including when it shifts huge amounts overnight for no apparent reason. On several occasions, I calculated that in the space of a few hours nearly a trillion dollars of coins were dumped or alternately purchased, something that only an entity with serious funds could do and do quickly. And in doing so shift the value significantly, reaping huge rewards.

      If JP Morgan and the Banksters have no scruples about shifting significant funds between countries to profit out of manipulated exchange rates, why would they not touch bitcoin?

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      • DH, tesla/ elon musk proved the market could be manipulated so yeah its possible. I guess a better word for my previous comment would be control not manipulate, jp morgan fully control markets like silver and are shitty they cannot do so with most cryptos, influencing markets is still risky and could backfire but if one can fully control…

        Agreed on the risks esp power outage or govt bans hence why i only have a small holding (not bitcoin) and i have several mates in pretty deep with over 500k in crypto between them and i give them shit telling them they have a very expensive usb stick esp if shit hits the fan. I prefer physical assets like bullion i cant eat it but its easily exchangable and as JP Morgan once said “gold and silver are money, everything else is just credit”
        The mega holdings of physical silver they possess is mind boggling and the way they manipulate the spot price and futures markets cant go on forever.

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        • Last week there was a report that 1.5 bn was invested in Bc by some Chinese (not in Chyna). Something to do with the Evergrande situation.
          Max Kaiser always gets stuck in to Jamie Dimon. Max is worth watching to keep up with what is going on .
          I have a small holding in BC but am not sure how to access as I bought early on before ‘wallets’ were available.
          It is a fascinating area though and looking at easycrypto site with all the cryptos available one wonders where this will develop in the future.

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          • Wiseowl, a “small holding” of bitcoin pre wallets would be worth a fucking fortune now.

            My nerd brother used to mine bitcoins years ago when he was a hardcore gaming addict, sold them all to buy some items on a game…. almost 700 of them… at 80cents each! Hindsight is a wonderfull thing he would be a multimillionaire now had he held.

            I only threw 1k at crypto as a punt on a coin incase it goes silly like bitcoin did.

            Dang i just looked at bitcoin price… my brothers 700 he sold would be worth 58mil NZD today. That mining was done back in the day when an average graphics card could earn you 40-50 bitcoins per week nowdays you need mega mining rigs worths thousands and be apart of a large syndicate to have any chance at making a return, even then the cost of power in nz would barely justify it.

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  31. I spent the best part of this afternoon finishing Arthur Taylor’s book ‘Prison Break’. He has an ego the size of a small logging truck but his insights into police, criminals & prisons made it worth reading. He made one point which is salient whether the topic be prisons, governments, covid or MSM bias.

    “I see it in these terms: If my neighbour came along to me & said that our other neighbour was an arsehole, I would start thinking the same – but he may not be. The public need to hear from both sides to make informed decisions……”

    IOW let’s hear both sides of an argument. When was the last time you heard or read a word against vaccination?

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  32. The Spinoff: Who are the New Zealanders holding out on getting vaxxed? Inside the Facebook groups

    In the latest instalment of IRL, Dylan Reeve goes inside the online groups contributing to this resistance, and meets some of their members.

    and then proceeds to slag them off.
    What a piece of shit paid for journalism so called.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/the-spinoff-who-are-the-new-zealanders-holding-out-on-getting-vaxxed-inside-the-facebook-groups/PFPOTY7UWA3GRICKLOPKQZDVVU/

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      • Nonethe less its appalling in its attyacking the people they named rather that the reasons.

        But I guess when you are fucking dumber than a sack of anchors and without any ability to research outside of what cindy has fed, you you really look like Cindy in drag.

        Added no a single bit of wisdom to the debate, nor any balance.

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  33. School teacher: ‘I won’t be getting Covid-19 jab’

    A school teacher of 15 years says she will refuse to get the Covid-19 vaccination.

    The Government has introduced a mandate for thousands of workers in education and healthcare to be vaccinated by the end of the year.

    But Rachael Mortimer, head of English and social sciences at Opihi College in south Canterbury, has spoken out against the Government’s “no jab, no job” mandate.

    Mortimer worked at James Hargest College in Invercargill for more than a decade before landing a head of faculty job at Opihi College nearly two years ago.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/126684315/school-teacher-i-wont-be-getting-covid19-jab

    And as the head of English and social sciences at her school, she taught her students to stand up for their beliefs.

    She would no longer be able to stand in front of her students and teach them about “freedom and choice and democracy” if she received the jab, she said.

    “I can’t look them in the eyes If I get this jab because it goes against everything I believe in, and I teach kids they need to stand up for what’s right.”

    Mortimer said she would be willing to be tested for Covid-19 every week if allowed to continue in the job unvaccinated.

    A mother of three children, she was the sole wage earner in her family but would “rather be on the breadline than go back on my principles”.

    My kinda gal.

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  34. Education Minister Chris Hipkins said making vaccinations mandatory for teachers and other school staff was not an easy decision.

    The Government had to balance the “right to choose” with the risk Covid-19 presented to students and with the risk of parents keeping their children away from school for long periods, Hipkins said.

    “The Government’s priority is to have as many eligible New Zealanders vaccinated as possible. It is the best way to keep all of our community safe.”

    Being vaccinated was a personal responsibility of everyone working in education, he said.

    “We’re asking those who are still on the fence or against vaccinations to please give it serious thought. We don’t want to lose educators.”

    Public health orders, which put the Government’s decisions to mandate vaccinations and testing into effect, would be published shortly.

    The Education Ministry was also working with sector representatives and unions to agree on processes when considering the individual cases of school workers not vaccinated by January 1, 2022.

    ==========================
    Stupid prick should have engaged his tiny brain before opening his useless mouth then.

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    • Apparently theres already 300+ teachers lined up to be imported and take up the vacancies left by non compliant teachers, if true then they knew months ago they were gunna mandate because clown car couldnt organise 300 replacements overnight.

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  35. I was just watching Comfortably Numb, and imagining myself being David Gilmour, (as I do). And I decided to check out the live line-up for the Vaxathon. Well let me tell you YSB’ers, one of the headline acts is. . . . . . the one and only. . . . . [drum roll]. . . . .wait for it . . . . . The Briscoes Lady. Eh? is this actually a thing? Mrs Saggy assured me that it was. And then I Googled her – sure enough. So with that sort of pulling power we should be in Level 1 come Monday.

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  36. PwC bans unvaccinated vistors and staff from offices

    PwC has become the second major New Zealand company in as many days to require anyone using its offices to be fully vaccinated.

    On Thursday, Russell McVeagh’s chief executive, Jo Avenell, said it would not allow anyone who had not had two doses of the Covid-19 vaccine to enter its offices.

    On Friday, PwC New Zealand chief executive Mark Averill said it, too, would require all staff and contractors who wanted to work from a PwC office or client site to be full vaccinated. The rule would also apply to visitors.

    The policy takes effect December 1.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300431205/pwc-bans-unvaccinated-vistors-and-staff-from-offices

    Another bought and paid for woke crowd.

    Question; Do their auditing staff go out to other businesses and are they refused entry?

    I guess their audit results will mirror the type of thing that Satndard and Poor and others did a few years back.

    All trained and paid for by the taxpayer at tax payer funded Universities.

    arrogant shits.

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  37. OK so where are our plods who are supposed to enforce the covid restrictions??

    The Head Hunters gang appears to have shifted its South Island headquarters to Timaru, much to the concern of the local mayor who wants them to “bugger off”.

    It comes after senior patched member Stephen William Daly, known as Teflon Daly and who is aligned with the group’s East chapter in Auckland, moved from Whangārei to the South Canterbury town in recent weeks.

    The gang has established its base in the former Road Knights pad and is understood to have patched over members as it begins to make alterations to the property.

    Aoraki area commander Inspector Dave Gaskin declined to comment on whether there had been any issues caused by the Head Hunters moving into town, but said he was “concerned at all times” when there were gangs in the community.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/126652028/bugger-off-mayors-message-to-head-hunters-as-it-sets-up-new-gang-pad

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  38. Gab poll.

    I’m picking the Vaxathon will include a false flag event for the cameras. Bet they use actors to get saline jabs to make the Vaxathon look like a success.

    They wouldn’t do that.
    0%
    Yes they bloody would.
    100%

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    • When all this shit is settled wouldn’t it be strange if we owe the gangs a debt of gratitude over the way this is unfolding?
      Gangs are ignoring lockdowns and spreading the virus, now The drunken dwarf is under the pump. Karma anyone?

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  39. Tyrants Of The Nanny State: When The Government Thinks It Knows Best

    “Whether the mask is labeled fascism, democracy, or dictatorship of the proletariat, our great adversary remains the apparatus—the bureaucracy, the police, the military. Not the one facing us across the frontier of the battle lines, which is not so much our enemy as our brothers’ enemy, but the one that calls itself our protector and makes us its slaves. No matter what the circumstances, the worst betrayal will always be to subordinate ourselves to this apparatus and to trample underfoot, in its service, all human values in ourselves and in others.”

    – Simone Weil, French philosopher and political activist

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/tyrants-nanny-state-when-government-thinks-it-knows-best?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29

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    • I cant be fucked with the tourist tracks but im starting to think it would be worth the effort to share doc huts with these retards then in the morning announce im unvaxxed and feeling very ill 🙂 no doubt doc will go fully woke by then and have vax passport checkers on every long drop and hut by then .

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  40. China has at least 65 million empty homes – enough to house the entire population of France. It offers a glimpse into the country’s massive housing market problem.

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/china-empty-homes-real-estate-evergrande-housing-market-problem-2021-10

    One-fifth of the homes in China – at least 65 million units – are empty.
    That means there’s enough empty real estate in the country to house the entire population of France.
    China’s ghost cities are a sprawling testament to its reliance on real estate as a driver of economic growth, and in its belief in the sector as a safe investment.

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    • Chinas fake economy was literally built by building apartments that cost many times the average wage to just rent let alone own. Theres vast ghost cities built, they could house millions but only have 30-50k and the services are failing or turned off due to being unable to keep maintained. Winning… not

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        • Chinas experiencing massive inflation and and an energy crisis to compund it. They wethered the first covid storm better then the rest of the world but now their arses are getting handed to them.
          Crop failures, natural disasters, coal shortage, energy shortage, raw materials shortage theyre all interconnected and as one problem worsens it drags the others with it.
          Their biggest mistake was trying to fuck over aussie with the coal barley and meat, the aussies will be having a good laugh at china now as other countries quickly took chinas share.

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  41. No wonder Cindy is panicking.

    NSW will end hotel and home quarantine in November, Dominic Perrottet says, hailing the return of fully vaccinated international travellers.

    New South Wales will end hotel and home quarantine requirements for returning international travellers from 1 November, Premier Dominic Perrottet has announced.
    Travellers must be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 to avoid the quarantine system, which has been in place since early 2020.
    The significant move was possible due to NSW’s high vaccination rate, Perrottet told reporters.

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/nsw-ends-hotel-home-quarantine-international-travel

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  42. A US federal judge has held top officials at the Washington DC Department of Corrections in civil contempt after ruling they violated the civil rights of a US Capitol riot defendant by impeding his access to medical care.

    “It is more than just inept and bureaucratic shuffling of papers,” US District Judge Royce Lamberth said.

    “I find that the civil rights of the defendant have been abridged. I don’t know if it’s because he is a January 6 defendant or not but I find that this matter should be referred to the attorney general of the United States… for a civil rights investigation.”

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/us-capitol-defendants-rights-violated-175120093.html

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