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INDIGENOUS, NATIVE…..

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INDIGENOUS: originating or occurring naturally in a particular place.

NATIVE: a person born in a specified place or associated with a place by birth.

We are all native and therefore indigenous in New Zealand.

New Zealand First leader Winston Peters made the claim that Māori are “not indigenous” while speaking at a public meeting in Nelson on Sunday.

“Here’s the rub if you are Māori. We’re not indigenous,” Peters told his supporters.

“We come from Hawai-iki. Where’s our Hawai-iki? We think it is in the Cook Islands. We think it’s in Rarotonga … but we’re not from here. And you go back 5000 years, we came with our DNA from China. Not like 55,000 years in Australia.”

Asked after the meeting by Stuff if he could see that that view might be upsetting to some, Peters referred to it as “the truth”.

Then we get this bullshit from TV 1 Origins

  1. Scotty Morrison explores the origins of the Māori people, visiting the Wairau Bar site which could be the first community in Aotearoa. Scotty tries to locate his hawaiki, his homeland, in the Pacific, but is hawaiki a real place or just a concept?

2. Scotty learns how early Pākehā researchers got the origins of Māori so wrong. He is surprised to find that several traditional folktales in Samoa are replicated in Māori culture and he makes a shock personal discovery at an ancient Vanuatu urupa.

3. Series Finale: Scotty travels to Ethiopia to explore the place that is said to be the origin of us all, and he visits the Cook Islands – the stepping off point for waka heading to Aotearoa hundreds of years ago.

Look at the map below. It gives in detail the Maori/Moriori migration from the far East and the dates.

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waikatogirl
waikatogirl
3 years ago

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/09/election-2023-labour-national-nelson-candidates-hit-back-at-winston-peters-ridiculous-m-ori-are-not-indigenous-claim.html
Labour’s Nelson candidate has hit back at Winston Peters’ claim Māori are “not indigenous”, dubbing it “ridiculous” and “inflammatory”.

On Monday, Nelson’s Labour candidate Rachel Boyack and National candidate Blair Cameron joined AM’s Ryan Bridge, where they were both asked about Peters’ comments.

Boyack said she thought Peters’ statement was “ridiculous”.

Bridge asked Cameron how he felt about the statement knowing Peters may end up in Government with National.

“Look, Māori are the indigenous people of New Zealand,” he said, adding he didn’t know “why we’re talking about Winston Peters right now”.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
3 years ago

How come so many Maori have gone backwards? //////. Welfare victimhood has hindered and condemned not improved life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtcEVD83qug
The Māori Today (1960)

nasska
Reply to  waikatogirl
3 years ago

This could offer a clue:

…….” systems of support have ended up entangling people in a net from which they do not escape.

Composers Henare Waitoa and Tuini Ngawai, leader and politician Sir Apirana Ngata wrote passionately against the introduction of the benefit fearing that it would undermine the work ethic of a people.

Tuini Ngawai claimed the end result would be the destruction of the people, it would attack the memories, it would erode the essence of their souls. “Patu tangata, patu mahara, patu mauri” .

I remember at the time of the 2008 elections a kuia writing to me, her message echoing the tupuna of an earlier time. She told me “welfare does not promote purpose, dignity, pride or hope”.”……..

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/getting-all-your-ducks-row

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
3 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3ADIrdjPIs
Michael Laws talks to NZ First Leader Winston Peters about the claims that Māori aren’t indigenous to New Zealand.

Komata
Komata
3 years ago

As winnie has made exactly the same clams before (And got exactly the same reaction), this is really actually OLD news, but as it gets him exposure and produces exactly the same media reaction, it’s actually very clever ‘politiking’ IMHO.

Hooker Phil
3 years ago

“Asked after the meeting by Stuff if he could see that that view might be upsetting to some”
Good. Fuck them, get upset.

Sooty
Sooty
3 years ago

We need to have the question, who is maori?

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