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Former police ministers ‘impressed’ with Otago gun buyback

Between the utes arriving at Otago’s Taieri Rugby Football Club was a late model car with two former police ministers.

Michael Woodhouse and Anne Tolley decided to visit the first firearms buyback held at the Mosgiel clubrooms – the first in the Southern Police District – on Friday.

The pair were shown the process involved – including how the firearms were made safe – and “were very impressed”, Woodhouse, who is based in Dunedin, said.

Tolley said the pair did not talk to firearms’ owners.

The surrendered weapons included some AR-15s.

The pair urged anyone going to a gun buyback to register first, which would make the process faster.

While there was no specific instructions for MPs attending buybacks, the pair decided to look at the process as they were both former police ministers who happened to have party business in the township on Friday morning.

It’s all about looking good for the cameras with Labour lite. Never mind about the poor law abiding citizens who have been forced by our socialist government and the toadies in opposition, to hand over their legally bought guns. Who in their right minds would consider voting for them?

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  1. While I’m not diametrically opposed to supporting the National Party in the future, they’re going to need a massive clean out of all the quislings first.

    I don’t see any in the current leadership deserving my vote let alone support. It seems the whole lot of them are NINOs. (National In Name Only – at least according to their founding principles).

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  2. My mind is all right and I will be voting National. What will voting ACT achieve? With one seat gifted to them by National, they have little influence. I have another voting delegate in my electorate of Hamilton West who is also very unhappy with National’s position on the knee-jerk legislation.

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    • Act’s basic problem is people think they’re a wasted vote; thus becoming a self fulfilling prophecy.

      I know at the 2017 election I had a dilemma about voting for them because of this reason (in the end I voted for them anyway). If there’s even a small groundswell for the 2020 election, I’ll be happy, as it will be promising for the 2023 election for even more improvement.

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    • Well that’s labour back in then. Chuck why don’t you do us all a favour and vote Labour. You have had a trip with all the others. Stupid old fool;.

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      • Why do you not use your own name? You want to hold a grudge over some comment I made years ago about you blame underage girls for having sex with adult men. I have no time for adults who think it is okay to have sex with “consenting” children. You would be better suited to Labour/

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    • What will voting National achieve? All you get is Labour policy under a blue banner, instead of a red one. You may as well vote Labour.

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    • How do you know your mind is alright (although I concede it may be “all right” but voting for National is not a vote for anything effectively right of the centre of the traditional political divide.

      I’m interested to know how you rationalise voting for a party that has ceased to follow it’s stated values, doesn’t that utter lack of integrity challenge your sense of right and wrong? How can you watch the downstream effects of such loss of the party’s moral compass (as evidenced by the Tory party in the UK and the Republicans in the US) and not see the move to the swamp by National.

      A party that seeks to be elected merely by being fractionally less awful than their main opposition is not doing much to earn the trust of the people.

      Or is your decision made in the mistaken assumption that we’re locked into a binary choice, and you are happy to settle for the “least bad’ option. 30 years of that in the US spawned Trump populism. If there is no other option I’d be happy to have a Trump here, but I’d far prefer a return to a strong dose of convervatism and a less polarising outcome.

      I’m not attacking you here, I’m just fascinated by the logic of sticking with National regardless. It seems to me like those sad folks who ‘settle’ and stay married to a husband or wife for 40 years that they’ve grown to hate. Surely not good enough, simply isn’t bloody good enough?

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    • Jeez.
      Labour Lite must be desperate if you are a voting delegate barely 18 months after voting for NZ First – lead by Winston Peters who is an open enemy of Labour Lite.
      Could one man have any more scorn than he does for L.L.

      We live in interesting times.
      Labour Lite live in desperate times – with a leader who is even less manly than David ‘I’m sorry’ Cunliffe.

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  3. Totally for me too Colinxy. Last election I got right into the polling booth and was pretty sure I’d vote Act but the perception of the ‘wasted vote’ ensured I voted 2 ticks blue. Next year I’m definitely giving my party vote to Act. Currently Act don’t have electorate candidates other than David Seymour, so unless that changes our local Nat will get my electorate vote as there is no other choice. It was good to personally meet David Seymour in June and he appeared to be a genuine sort of bloke. The only one to stand up for free speech and against the rushed gun laws. As I’ve said before, I have absolutely no connection to firearms but I strongly abhor the draconian measures taken against our country’s licensed law-abiding gun owners.

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    • last election I held my nerve, party vote Act electorate National. My MP is not standing again so very unsure about the Electorate vote – may not cast but Party vote definitely Act.

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  4. Fuck it I’ll probably vote Act. At least that way I will be able to look at myself in the mirror and not see a supporter of the Labour-lite socialists staring back. Those pricks need a lesson to lift their game and I’m in a good position to prosper from a Thickcinda spawned recession.

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    • I’m with you Salacious. I have to look in the mirror every morning. I can only vote ACT as they are the only party that are good for New Zealand. National is now centre left, I can never vote for that. I don’t care if it is a wasted vote, ACT is getting it.

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      • I don’t agree that Party vote ACT is a wasted vote because every Party vote counts. Next election I think there will be a lot more people giving their party vote to ACT among them large numbers of gun owners and there are a quarter of a million of us! Be on the winning team, Party Vote ACT. 🙂

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        • Alice every Party vote for Act will be counted.
          But unless they get to 5% they will still only get 1 MP to help National.
          Imho if they don’t start getting up to 3 or 4% soon, they might as well give up.

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    • Yes, yes, yes!

      National are deeply in denial about the Trump and the Brexit effect. Their hubris is wrapped closely around them and they are as bad as Labour about relying upon the “It’s our turn” strategy.

      If ACT’s calling out of the terrible incremental wrongs the CoL are pushing pays off – then you are so right. Others will start to awaken to the vast silent majority of NZers who are shy ‘tories and are sick to death of having two left wing main parties.

      For this reason, I’ll be voting Labour in my National safe seat because I can’t stand to vote for National any more and ACT has already secured my party vote.

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    • Wasn’t it all about teaching them a lesson last time? The problem I see, is that Winston will be seen as the saviour from a Labour-Green government again.

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  5. ACT will get both ticks from me. They are the ONLY party that holds NZ values up. The rest are a bunch of power hungry control freaks. Vote for them if you want more of the same.

    Good for blog discussions, but terrible for the country.

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  6. If Act want t get anywhere, Seymour should drop his euthanisia campaign (it takes all of his energy).

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  7. The fact that alt right wing parties can rise up quickly overseas , and the fact that ACT is still stuck on 1% shows to me, that basically NZ is not a right wing country.

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    • Yup. The media calls Labour “liberal”, to such a point smart people believe them. Bullshit.

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  8. Sure I’d like National to move more to the right, but the fact is that for the last few elections when they were centre right and even centre, Labors got pushed down to 30% and was even in “danger” of disppearng.

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  9. Ok with all the Act supporters on here, I expect to see Act up to 4% on the next poll.
    But I’d bet a hundy that they will still be around 1%.
    Until Act get some other high profile members in the media they will drift along
    on1%.
    David Seymour did well on Dancing with the Stars and yet Act can only get1%

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  10. Look s like Muller has thrown his hat in with the Greens.
    Said today that he wants lots of electric cars.

    Another bloody god botherer. The Nats are full of the.

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