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Todd Muller has resigned as leader of the National Party.

Muller announced early on Tuesday morning that he was resigning from the leadership of the party immediately.

“It has become clear to me that I am not the best person to be Leader of the Opposition and Leader of the New Zealand National Party at this critical time for New Zealand.

“It is more important than ever that the New Zealand National Party has a leader who is comfortable in the role.

“The role has taken a heavy toll on me personally, and on my family, and this has become untenable from a health perspective.”

He took over the leadership from former leader Simon Bridges on May 22.

What a fucking wimp. Not up to the job? FFS did he think it would be tiddlywinks? Not only has he stufed Nationals chance of beating Cindy, he has consigned the county to another three years of hell.

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  1. Went off Judith. You either like her or you don’t. I did and now don’t. Still, National need to play the wildcard now. At least JC will take it to Cindy. ACT will do well out of this.

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    • Saggy – totally agree, Judiths firearms stance was the straw that broke this Camels back. I look forward to seeing 10 ACT MP’s 20/9/2020, just hope NZ does a UK on Cindy & clowns like the UK did to Corbin.

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  2. Haaaaaaahahhaaaaaaahahahaaa! What a total Fwit!!!!

    Just got Labour on the backfoot with their SFO investigation and Todd’s home sucking his thumb! Sorry, but he must have been delusional or very naive if he thought he was going to be treated like the new National party saviour and receive a clear path to winning the election off the dirty street fighters that the left are known for. Better he has gone now than stay on as the woke wimp leadership he thought NZ wanted from him.

    Vote Act 2020 ☑️☑️

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  3. I cannot believe how ill prepared both he and Niki Kaye were for this when they ousted Simon and Paula, they had no idea what the F*** they were doing from the get go. He sucked up to the MSM and she is as woke as you can get without coming out and saying “I believe” in the communist party. Thank you Todd pathetic Muller, you have really stuffed the country now. You will go down in history as pathetic woke and unable to do any job you think you are capable of. Maybe you won’t have a job come September 19th and what then aye?

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  4. Muller got off to a bad start and has continued to stumble so I commend him for recognizing his unsuitability to be a leader and resigning despite the turmoil it creates, Todd show integrity something totally absent in the coalition of clowns. Whoever the new leader is, it is policies that matter and addressing those that Nationals core support base who have been demonized and disadvantaged by the current Govt will ensure more support than the leadeer although a charismatic practical leader will help even more.
    Here – are a few ideas for Nation new leader to announce will be implement immediately on taking office –
    1) The residential tenancies acts passed by Labour are repealed retrospectively and new law creating a fair and equal responsibility for Landlords & Tenants.
    2) The firearms legislation will also be suspended pending review, ammendment or repeal.
    3) The RMA will be substantially reformed to allow development to take place without undue delay and cost whilst protecting the important environmental features.
    4) Local councils who propose rates increases during the coming recession/depression will resign and offer themselves for re election based on their rate increase proposals.
    5) Legislation and regulation will be reconsidered on a cost/benefit basis and National commits to repealing 3 Laws or regulations for every new one and will remove at least 2 per month.
    6) The public sector will be held to account including local councils and failure to efficiently and economically deal with their coer responsibilities will result in those responsibilities being privatized if necessary.

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  5. ACT will do well out of this.

    Nikki will have to go as well so think Crusher and Mitchell as a team.

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    • Yes to Judith as leader.

      Many were against Maggy Thatcher taking the leadership of the British Conservatives. Time will tell if Judith has “IT”, but I suspect she does.

      Imagine Judith would bring one hell of a fight to Ardern for the election. Perhaps Judith would turn down the opportunity to take the leadership but I doubt that. 👏

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      • Judith won’t drink from the poisoned chalice to become the National leader. She’s too smart for that. She will attack from a position of strength in the future when New Zealand has double-digit unemployment, crippling debt, and the people are crying out for a responsible government that will slay the red-tape dragon and get the country back on to a productive track.

        (That’s the narrative that I like to tell myself.)

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          • I disagree. If Judith Collins is ambitious and true leader material she will have a real go now. If she can turn things around and National/ACT win she will have real chance to go down in NZ political history as a great PM by leading a Govt that brings NZ back from the brink.
            That is, it is an all or nothing situation for her and I hope she grabs it with both hands, it is not a time to be timid.
            She has been in Parliament for 18 years –who would want to be there another 3 years + sitting on the Opposition benches with the current Govt wrecking NZ ?

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            • Judith will be weighing up her options. How bad the economy is predicted to be, will have to turn around and whether it is doable? NZ is still to hit the worst of the economic crash and it looks like it will not happen until after the election. When National open the cupboards they will not only find the treasury is empty but there is a bloody enormous IOU pending! Whoever takes on the National Party leadership will do so with an anchor holding the country back.

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              • I agree WG but we do not want someone who looks at the challenge and says “Oh, that looks too hard”. That is what Muller has effectively done unless his medical issue is a lot worse than he is letting on and if that is the case I sincerely wish him well.
                We want someone who will get out there and say, for example –Tiwai Point is important to Southland and NZ –we will work with Meridian as the Govt is a major shareholder and negotiate very hard to work a way around it, but we will not be bullied into a soft option. There could be buyers out for the smelter, for example.
                Someone who is prepared to take the bull by the horns and I hope Judith Collins is the person.

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                • There is talk of Tesla buying the smelter and making electric cars. Jimmytwomums will give them a massive subsidy to provide us with cheap cars?

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                • I have huge respect for Judith’s abilities. She has rocked every ministerial role she has held. I want her leadership to be successful but I think she just might take this chance as a crisis is what she needs to TAKE the leadership and a crisis is certainly what the Nats have today.

                  Judith and Simon Bridges as her deputy?

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                  • Not really
                    She was a poor Minister of ACC (around the Boag/Pullar leak that we were reminded of last week) and was a poor Minister of Justice.
                    She watered down a lot of good reforms by Simon Power and also never, never made a decision on David Bain compensation in 2 years. This was left for A . Adams. Collins > Gutless and a waffler.

                    As former Pres of the Akl Law Society she changed the rules to favour lawyers and legal aid.

                    After that she only had minor ministerial roles in 2014 to 2017 and as Minister of Energy made waffle statements about petrol prices with no actual action.
                    When it comes down to Collins she is a lot of talk with no actual delivery.
                    Minister of Waffle.
                    Here recent stance of guns shows her poor judgement.
                    NO to Collins.

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              • You are right. The numbers are stark.

                In terms of the spending thus far, Labour has signed us up for an additional $28,000 of debt per person. We’ve gone from being $12,000 / $60,000 (20%) per person as a percentage of GDP to $40,000 / $60,000 per person (67%) as a percentage of GDP.

                This isn’t high quality spending. This is $10 million to AJ Hacket, a millionare. This is $570,000 for a slide when you could have had 10 times that amount spread across New Zealand. This is all the wasteful electioneering that Jacinda Ardern is doing.

                It is so bad, that as Treasury and David Seymour have now said – the INTEREST on this alone is going to be BIGGER than our entire spend on education.

                If that doesn’t tell you how fucked whomever is the next government is, then I don’t know what will.

                But …

                Would you want Labour to lead that recovery?

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                • “It is so bad, that as Treasury and David Seymour have now said – the INTEREST on this alone is going to be BIGGER than our entire spend on education.”
                  Hell and that is with interest rates at record lows !!

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            • My view, even a loss would be acceptable as long as parties in the current coalition get shown up for the very poor job in all respects of their tenure.

              Cranking up the numbers for National and ACT to knock the confidence and ideally fully displacing the green proposals to destroy what ever is left after the current coalition would be a good result.

              The misuse of the PGF and the northland vote buying has left me doubtful that NZF has the necessary credibility to again be any part of a coalition.

              Tossing the current lot out, lifting National and ACT, with some prospects for NC would be my preference. I want less, not more, government interference in daily life.

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    • TJF

      I think it must be a case of ACT HAS DONE WELL –Mr Farrar’s polls must already show a massive move over to ACT and that is what has precipitated this move.
      I will still not believe the supposed move of many National people to Labour, as shown in recent polls, is real.

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      • Centrist voters that can swing either way are voting Labour because they see Jacinda Ardern as a saviour, who has rescued the country from Covid-19. That’s the simple reality of it.

        Remember, these are people who live on a diet of media pap and stumble along oblivious in their daily lives, caring only for a Friday avro beer, a bit of rugby on the weekend and going to a steady job.

        To them, democracy, politics, all the things that get us excited are meaningless.

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        • While I agree with you in principle re centrist voters, if that was all there was to it then then there should have been more swings in the last 11 years for the National vote. There have been plenty of times you could have expected a swing away from National, if it was just due to media pap.

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  6. What a complete fecking egg Muller is !!!!
    He does not just look like one, he is one.

    Several weeks of fluffing around.
    All the Fs
    A fecking Fonterra Flake from FuFu land.

    No wonder there was no policy.
    This has been the biggest cock-up in NZ politics than I can ever recall.
    Hard to absorb its impact right now.

    He stepped up and had nothing.
    Not even a clue.

    Does this mean Dizzy Kaye steps up?
    Was this the ‘plan’ all along to match the Move three years ago to promote Ardoom.

    The useless prick had better join Hamish Walker and feck right off in September..

    And we thought Michelle Boag wreaked havoc.
    Jeez Wayne.

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  7. Lizzie I think Muller and woke Kaye we’re sprung planning to make the move after the election. Certainly hope Kaye goes as well. Judith may be the only option . What a bloody mess.

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    • Death sentence, you say.
      What crime is NZ accused of? What is the evidence? Who is the judge?
      Will it be death by a thousand cuts? Or a beheading?

      (I will have to lay in an extra stock of popcorn…)

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        • Panicking over (clearly doctored) poll results and getting rid of Bridges and Bennett was silly.
          Replacing them with spineless ‘I’m so sorry for being white’ types Muller and Kay was utter fucking madness…
          The National Party totally deserve this. We hard-working New Zealanders certainly don’t…

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            • Not just a river in Egypt. What do we do with all the luvvies who want to vote for that nice lady with the kind smile who has saved our country? Once the country is bankrupt and we’re eating our dogs it’s too late.

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  8. Anyone hear that political commentator on ZB? Ben Thomas didn’t know what he was talking about.

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  9. As expected the National Party is currently holding an emergency caucus meeting to try and figure out their next move after their latest leader dropped the ball after only 5 weeks.

    Please National, don’t look at Nikki Kaye or Amy Adams as leader!!

    Simon and Paula will be laughing over their cornflakes this morning. Revenge is best served cold! 😏

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  10. Collins and Mitchell are our last hopes.
    If they give blundering Nikki Kaye (or even worse that moron Amy Adams) the top job and continue their ‘Lurch Left’- Labour will govern alone.
    If Labour Govern alone this may well be the last Democratic Election we ever have.
    My Labour Party relative is already crowing on Social Media that we are ‘Finally coming close to a One Party State’!
    Be very afraid folks- I don’t think Joe Public quite realise just how Marxist Jacinda Ardern and her cronies actually are…

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    • Nikki Kaye was an excellent local MP.
      But since she got near the leadership she seems to have become ‘Born Again Woke’…Constantly apologising for people’s ethnicities and blundering around trying to appease the Media.
      National DESPERATELY need someone with a fucking spine!

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  11. I hope this isn’t related to the ‘minor’ surgery Muller had a few weeks back.
    If it is, good luck to Muller and his family.

    If not, it’s fairly clear Boagey is squeezing his plums.
    Someone who can’t lead an opposition party can’t lead a government.

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    • Those were a few non-cancerous moles Muller had removed.
      No, this was gentleman Todd coming up against the lefts street fighting tactics. Boardroom niceties Todd brought with him don’t cut it in politics. He wasn’t ready and may now lose his electorate as MP if his electorate vote Act instead after his leadership debacle.

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    • Harvey,
      If he is not well he should have resigned or he won’t be a good MP. He was hopeless as the leader and should know his day is over. He might or will be humiliated by a downtown with his voters in September.

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  12. This is more damaging than the actions of Hamish Walker.
    Ergo, Muller MUST step down in September.
    He has done severe damage.

    I asked on 12 June 2020 is Muller was a Labour Party plant.

    https://ysb.co.nz/have-your-say-423/#comment-78692
    “Is Todd Muller a plant from the Labour Party?
    It would be easy to argue the FOR”

    Indeed with this play into the hands of Labour it would be difficult to argue ‘Against’

    I don’t know why I bothered learning how to pronounce his name.
    I should have stuck with Godbothering Wimp.

    If he thinks he can hang about on an MPs salary after this he had better Think Big, Think Fast, and Think Now ….. and Hand in his resignation pronto.

    Given he knew the cutoff was the end of last week everything he has done is disingenuous
    ergo, a Labour Party Plant .
    I am no fan of Notional but this white ant vandalism is appalling from this God Bothering Wimp.
    It is massively destructive.

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    • I’m also perplexed as to what Muller’s game was….
      If the rumours about his health are true then he should save face and come out and tell the bloody truth.
      Otherwise he goes down in history as the most spineless wimp NZ Politics has ever seen…

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        • Citizens for Rowling
          Jeez Wayne.

          That was a sycophant mob.
          Prominent wooses in it.
          -Geoff Palmer- later dreadful PM that was also rolled 7 weeks before an election ; and the role model for Malcolm Turnbull
          -Paul Reeves – another religious type who was involved in a lot of protests are was rewarded by the new Liebour Govt as Gov. Gen. from 1985
          and
          Ed Hillary – who was also appointed by Lange’s mob in 1985 as High Commissioner to India.

          They obviously were fond of the Mouse and were rewarded.
          The above two you mention became Prime Minister albeit having never won an election.

          Muller is a ‘never has-been ‘.
          He should just stand up and say ‘ I’m Sorry, for nearly being a man’

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  13. “The role has taken a heavy toll on me personally, and on my family, and this has become untenable from a health perspective.”
    I find this quite ironical that almost 3 years ago when St Cindy took over the W/O blog that I was reading then the pages were full of her mental health, had suffered breakdowns and how she would be unable to last the distance and would go to the U.N. etc. etc..
    Guess who is still there with two opposition leaders in her dusk.

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  14. I should have placed a bet last week.
    Right now sportsbet is paying $34 for Nats to get 21 to 30 seats; and $11 for 31-35 seats.
    I am not sure what the odds were a week ago.
    https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/new-zealand-politics/nz-general-election-party-seat-totals-5216826
    The only way to profit from this National Party-made disaster.
    In 2002 it got 27 seats.

    Time for that National party president clown Badfellow to step up and show leadership;.
    Given he is mainly a wealthy man because his ancestors made money I won’t expect much initiative from him.

    Right now Colin Craig in 2014 looked more organised than this mob in 2020.

    The ‘Born to Rule’ tag is looking like a tattoo on an 84 year old ex biker (Notional formed in 1936)

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  15. Unusually this has even taken Cam Slater by surprise and he doesn’t know anything about it but the last sentence in his quite article is a good suggestion

    “Of course he may well have been caught up in the Boag scandal. We await a full explanation.”

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    • I note that in addition to former party president Michelle Boag’s involvement last week, this morning former party president John Slater is commenting in the media today.
      Is this a problem, or a symptom of a problem?
      Who is the current party president?, does he have anything to say?, should he have anything to say?, how much does he wish the has-beens would go away?

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      • Interesting that ZB had a comment from Lawrence Yule on the 11am news.
        Look for some movement from him in the near future as more reshuffles take place.

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  16. Well, bugger, actually Fuck, there are no words or phrases in English that accurately describe this. Time for Act to step up and confine National to a minor Party Status. I suspect there will be many moving to Act after today.

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  17. Seymour doing a meet and greet at Botany tonight along with the local candidate. I’ve decided to go along for a look if nothing other to see whether the local candidate is a better option for the electorate vote than Luxon.

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  18. So the guy on the Radio just said the ‘inside word’ is a Nikki Kaye/Amy Adams combo to lead National.
    Way to guarantee under 30% you absolute morons!
    Sweet mother of Christ I need a drink….

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    • I have never seen a Politician with less charisma than Amy Adams.
      Christ I get depressed just looking at her mopey sad face on TV…
      30% for National would be a push if she gets the job…Probably closer to 25

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    • If Kaye and Adams are National’s excuse for leadership I will no longer be supporting National with my electorate vote.

      TWO TICKS ACT

      Vote Act 2020 ☑️ ☑️

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    • Mitchell
      Yeah- people will realise the age of Robotics has arrived.

      He mumbles in robotic cop talk – there were three perpetrators at the scene, investigations are continuing;..words that convey no knowledge transfer delivered in way to put someone to sleep.

      if Mitchell is the answer then the question is wrong.

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    • Don’t dispair Mikey. This sort of social and economic decay faced Germany, until the greatest leader of the modern era addressed the cause of the disease.

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  19. Whomever takes over better realise that the media hates anyone to the right of Chairman Mao. What a wuss Muller is.

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      • Exactly Colinxy!
        No point in ANY Nat leader trying to be ‘Woke’ and suck up to the Media.
        The silent majority is massive- Judith understands this and will not play the ‘Wimpy Todd’ game….

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  20. Sean Plunket on Magic Radio is asking if Simon Bridges can come back as leader? He says Simon only lost the leadership by one vote, could slot back into the leadership and set up his office quickly.

    “The comeback kid” or “Bring back the yak”

    Judith Collins says she is open to the leadership but is making no comment before the National caucus leadership meeting.

    Simon and Judith
    or Judith and Simon

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  21. Simon Bridges shares kind words for Todd Muller, won’t say if he wants ‘toughest job in politics’ again
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/toughest-job-in-politics-simon-bridges-expresses-sympathy-todd-muller-took-his?auto=6171376371001

    But arriving in Wellington ahead of the caucus meeting today, Mr Bridges wouldn’t be drawn on whether he’ll be batting to get his old job back.

    “Let’s just see what happens,” he told 1 NEWS.

    He offered his support to Mr Muller and his family.

    “A lot of people say but I know, being leader of the Opposition is the toughest job in politics,” Mr Bridges says.

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    • Bridges was shafted- Should have been positioning himself to be Prime Minister right about now.
      But they can’t go back to him- That is an appalling look.
      He would make an able deputy to Judith though…

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  22. David Seymour was on Magic discussing Muller’s resignation with Sean. While supporting Muller’s decision David said “We’ve all woken up at 7am and wished for a quiet day but the rest of us haven’t resigned.” He said Muller has worked in monopoly companies such as Fonterra and as a MP in the warm bosom of the National Party, that is different from being leader.”

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  23. Not being an insider on the way Right politics works…
    Could someone please explain the role of Peter Goodfellow?

    From my pov he seems to be useless/ redundant/ ineffective.

    Does anyone know if he has had any part in bringing about this collapse of the NP?

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    • As President of the Party he must have plenty of power / influence, Maggy. They say he is good at fund raising.
      But clearly there have significant ructions / divisions within the parliamentary party for sometime and you have thought observing this he should have stepped in to resolve issues if Bridges and then Muller were not able to sort it.
      In modern day terms Goodfellow has been a “trust fund” kid. Son of the wealthy Goodfellow family, he was a long time director of Sanfords (fishing company) but that is about all, I think except for personal investments (property , shares etc.)

      On a recent Leighton Smith podcast, Leighton spoke with Stephen Joyce and he asked very directly “How bad does it have to get before you move back in?”. Joyce very cleverly avoided answering directly by saying there was a new, capable group coming through and he thought Muller would do a good job. I wonder what Stephen is thinking today ?

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    • Maggie I suggest you read the post by Slater about two days ago where he gives some background on Goodfellow.

      It was on BFD in post about Boag.

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    • I’m not up with the presidency of the Nats but Goodfellow has been there for a decent amount of time. I agree he should sort out the factions in National as they are damaging the party.
      However, when you are president of the Labour Pardy you are a scapegoat for Cindy to throw under the bus as Nigel Harworth found out!

      Labour Party President Nigel Haworth resigns
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/115710495/labour-party-president-nigel-haworth-resigns
      Auckland woman Claire Szabo has been elected the new president of the Labour Party.

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    • Goodfellow
      He is to the Manor Born
      The goodfellow name for Peter may well be a misnomer.

      He has been very invisible.
      He was born into riches from family made money
      Ten or so years ago he was worth 400 mill so a hell of a lot of dough to insulate him from the real world.
      From reports at the time of his father’s death the father put much of the family money out of reach of ‘young’ Pete.
      This would suggest Pop did not think he would use the money wisely.

      It seems he just ‘wants to be President’ but not make decisions.
      A decent president will be ‘ building 2nd and 3rd generation leadership teams’
      He has not.
      The herd is thinned out each round in the last 15 years, not hardened up.
      15 years ago you did not have the Hamish Walker and Sarah Dowie mess ups.

      I remember the days of George Chapman as president 1973 to 1982
      He was succeeded by Sue Wood
      Chapman was very active and high profile.
      He was a self made man and certainly fit the mold of a National Man in that era.
      He attracted a lot of active followers/members.
      He also had some gorgeous daughters. To be fair.
      He is still alive at 93.

      The more opposite to Badfellow I could not think.
      In that era there were some very good MPs and I said in KB about 5 years ago as my disillusionment grew with Gnats that there were more good MPs around Muldoon’s table than were present after 2014 around Key’s.

      Good/bad fellow is married to the ex wife of Dizzy Desley Simpson. She was previously married to Scott Simpson, the current Gnat MP for Coromandel.
      S. Simpson and Goodfellow squared off for Party pres in 2009.
      Goodfellow won.
      The wife is a scary unit. Akl Councillor for Orakei since 2016.
      Her wiki says Desley is an organist. I cannot comment.
      She tends to vote (on council) very communist but that would reflect Notional party of this era.

      If people are worried about the half million dollar slide built recently at Parliament they might want to consider the slide that Notional are on.
      that is of greater concern.

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  24. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. We have to remember that this is not actually a National party we are talking about here.

    We are in actual fact talking about a bunch of fucktards who over the past few years have gone from bad to worse to scraping the barrel – I am not at all hopeful that the blue rinse brigade won’t try for one more attempt at one of their own like Amy Adams or bringing Soimon back as Leader.

    These fucking tossers are not Ruth Richardson, Bill Birch, Wyatt Creech, Max Bradford and Maurice Williamson. They are not full-blooded adults who live for a bit of a street fight – these cunts are panty-waisted hipster soy latte drinking liberal socialists. They have proven over and over again that since about 2011 they were fucking clueless. We now know how incredibly influential Joyce and English were in keeping all those simpering twats in line.

    I fully expect National to confound their voters tonight and to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and try to foist one of their own on the electorate.

    If they do the core centre right base will be merciless and National will lose half their MPs and they will destroy trust that it’ll take them a quarter of a century to rebuild.

    Tonight National have the chance to make ACT the second biggest party in NZ and I think they are hell bent on doing it.

    Goodfellow cannot climb down from his long-standing antipathy to Judith – he will do everything in his power to block her. As he knows he is dead in the water if she wins.

    National are going to take the extraordinary step of fucking themselves up their own arses tonight. Just look at how embarrassed they all look when the come out of the caucus room – they won’t be able to look anybody straight in the eye for a month.

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    • I listened to Jim Bolger (NZ’s most extreme left wing PM of the past 50 years) on HDPA and he was just staggeringly, stultifyingly pathetic. He’s clearly had some kind of “Road to Damascus” experience he sounding like he belonged in the Greens and not as a former National PM. He was ranting about neo-liberalism this and inequality that if it wasn’t for the fact that he sounded like a senile old union organiser I could have mistaken him for Andrew LIttle.

      If ever there is a picture perfect example of why National is hard and fast on the road to oblivion – it is Jim Bolger. What the fucking fuck was a full-retard socialist doing as a National party Prime Minister for goodness’ sake.

      Jim needs to fix his dentures, reduce his Ex-Lax dosage and STFU in his retirement.

      Once again – proving the point that ex-Prime Ministers should be seen and not heard.

      Fuck off Jim – you are a fucking traitor!

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      • Spud Bolger, another proven fuck up, as he was one who supported Todd Muller, a months or so a go, just because he knew him as a young intern, and dressed him with all his ‘pearly’ words of slack wisdom.
        Spud must be disappointed now, knowing there is no chance of some rich sinecure & tenure on some board or rather.
        Never admitted that he picked a man with no bones.

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      • The swing against Notional under Spud in 1993 after three years was a 12.7% loss in vote translating to a reduction in seats of 63 down to 50 in a house of 99 seats in that time.

        In that three years his outfit gave the country the RMA, leaky buildings, and shut down the Auckland Regional Council (but no other Regional Councils) ; flogged off the Railways for a song etc etc

        Bolger was a true wrecker as much as any IRA bomber.

        Didn’t Fruity Farrar (D) also work for Bolger.
        Birds of a feather.
        Talk about a march through the institutions; while we were busy looking at the education sector the socialists were white anting all over the show.

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  25. The only reason National has the support it does is due to brand loyalty and tribalism.

    ACT are the party that most represent traditional National values, while rejecting nanny state social conservatism.

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  26. I just watched the replays of Todd interviewed last week.
    IMHO he looked out of it, drugged up for some reason.
    Health issues for sure.
    Father died quite young with heart problems.

    Bit sad really becuase he is a really nice person. something that has been lacking in politics in NZ for a longtime now.

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    • I do not doubt what you are saying Viking but if he has a serious or potentially serious health issue he would have been better to just be straight up about it –not giving all the detail. As I have said elsewhere, if it is the case I wish him well on a quick recovery.

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      • “The role has taken a heavy toll on me personally, and on my family, and this has become untenable from a health perspective.

        For that reason I will be stepping down as Leader effective immediately. ”

        Isn’t that what he said?

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  27. Mark Mitchell and Louise Upston have formed a partnership to challenge the leadership of National. The leadership meeting of the caucus is still continuing.

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    • This is a measure of just how totally out of touch the National party caucus is with the voting public.

      Most ordinary, decent middle of the road New Zealanders (ie not Labour/Green voters) are today rejoicing because they think that finally Judith is going to be made leader and that finally there is going to be an effective antidote to the poison of Jacinda-mania.

      But in the insane, isolated, fucked-in-the-head minds of the utter idiots in the National party caucus – they are trying to stitch together a Frankenstein monster of Mitchell-Upston to replace the repulsive and failed model of Muller-Kaye, which was dreamed up to replace the unelectable marriage of Bridges-Bennett. You know what they say “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over again – expecting a different result”.

      We are watching a textbook case of psychiatric group insanity.

      The whole of New Zealand knows what the need to do – but they can’t work it out.

      Honestly, it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so utterly devastatingly sad.

      As I said above, we are watching a bunch of grown and supposedly responsible adults fuck themselves – they’re all stark, raving bonkers.

      Labour are shitting themselves right now as they are petrified of Cindy being exposed to Judith’s withering intelligence and sharp tongue – but National! They are tying themselves in knots trying to avoid the thing that Labour are most terrified of.

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      • Never let it be said they are a bunch of intelligent people. Past actions have shown what they think of public opinion. They think they are born to rule and nothing is going to divert them from such stupidity.
        If Farrah did a poll this AM why not take heed of that?

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  28. I hope the MSM rue the day they dabbled in propping up the CoL.
    I trust Judith shows them NO MERCY

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    • Judith leader with possibly Gerry Brownlee as her deputy.
      That could be fun. Neither take any prisoners, both quick with political retorts and both very experienced.

      Crusher v stardust!!
      Looking forward to the debates 😂

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  29. Just remember that she now has to leave home and go electioneering.
    Not much Parliamenetary stuff to make a noise at.
    All out front now.

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  30. Who has odds on when the first negative article crops up in the media? The 9th floor is surely calling the editors already.

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    • 10pm RNZ news … Judith Collins, Oravida, SFO, failed leadership bids….
      all negative….

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    • Red Radio 10 :00 pm, announced JC as the new leader , the one with Oradiva and Key dropping her.

      Edit snap Maggy Wassilieff. 🙂
      and there was me thinking Pascal had barely dropped the flag for an answer. 🙂

      At the bottom they listed.

      History with scandal or controversy:

      Dirty Politics 2014: She was accused of leaking information to her friend and right-wing blogger Cameron Slater in the book Dirty Politics. She resigned from Cabinet after allegations she tried to undermine the Serious Fraud Office director. An inquiry cleared her of wrongdoing. She was reinstated in 2015.

      Oravida 2014: She visited the Shanghai offices of Oravida, of which her husband is a director, while on a taxpayer-funded trip. The company used her photo as a product endorsement.

      Wetlands comments 2014: It emerged swamp kauri had been stockpiled in Northland under the name Oravida Kauri, another business linked to Oravida and Ms Collins’ husband. She outraged environmentalists by telling a reporter she did not care, saying, “Am I the Minister of Wetlands?”

      Brownlee was among former National ministers forced to defend the activities of private investigators under their watch after it emerged insurer Southern Response broke its code of conduct when it used security firm Thompson and Clark to secretly record meetings of earthquake victims. As former Earthquake Recovery Minister Brownlee took issue with the report, saying it used “inflammatory language that’s designed to make the big cost of it more palatable.”

      More to come…
      Yes still digging on “more to come”.
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/421206/new-national-party-leader-is-judith-collins

      Then when in the news it is the aggravatiang style of how they read it as well. 🙁

      Collins and Brownlee will have their style of countering this. 🙂

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  31. I suspect that our PTPM won’t sleep well tonight.
    Judith Collins was the least favoured among the Labour troll army who have been out in force this afternoon ringing talkback programmes to claim Collins is corrupt, but cannot substantiate the claim when pressed.
    We do live in interesting times.

    There has also been much cheer-leading for Act in recent weeks.
    That is only a sound strategy if National takes the centre, and I had become increasingly pessimistic they would be able to do so. Now, there is hope.

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