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Call me crazy, call me stupid, call me “butt hurt, call me what you like, but it will not change my opinion. I am too old to give a fuck about the effect my voting will have on the rest of you. You can all stick your heads in the sand and vote for ACT, National or NZFirst.

Who was it who agreed with the mad departed bitch when she mandated everyone be vaccinated? National and ACT. If Winston had been there he would have also agreed.

Who agreed to not meet the “River of Filth? All of them.

Who was it who wanted to go much further than Labour and restrict the rights of the unvaccinated? Davos Dave and ACT.

Who was it who said they wanted to stop parole and benefit payments to the unvaccinated? Winston and NZFirst.

Who was it who launched a tax incentive policy that would see fully vaccinated New Zealanders receive a $250 tax credit?  ACT and Davos Dave.

Who was it who at the beginning of this Election campaign said they like DemocracyNZ but their timing is not right? Not this time? You know who you are.

Who was the dumbarse who said Zelensky is the world’s best leader? “He’s phenomenal. I’d love to meet him.”? Davos Dave said that.

Who goes on about us being “Butt hurt” and tells us to get over it? You know who you are.

With her compromised immune system, If Mrs Holy had given in and taken the vaccinations, she would be dead. SO NO, we will not forget it.

Who is it who said she couldn’t work with Winston? Nicola Willis and National.

Who is it who said he wouldn’t work with Winston? Davos Dave and ACT.

Who has a history of saying they will listen to the voters and go with the highest polling party? Only to go with the second-highest polling party and install the worst government in our history? Winston and NZFirst.

Never forget all the above, and if after reading my reasons you still want to vote for the drunken dwarf, Nude Nut or Davos Dave, then do so. Only don’t come bleating that it’s my fault for not voting for these idiots. We all have choices.

If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you have always got.

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  1. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
    ✔️✔️ 🩵

    😃 The silent MAJORITY

    Repeatedly calling me butt hurt doesn’t change my opinion, it’s like censoring attempts, just makes us go underground…

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    • It is, you just have to have faith and not let the excuses for the others talk you out of it.
      DNZ will change the way we are governed , not perhaps immediately but given another 3 years it will happen as it should.

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  2. DNZ was derailed by its loose discipline which saw candidates leaving earlier this year. I like the policies & I appreciate the sincerity of its founder & leader.

    Though I am less than optimistic about its chances of success I cannot bring myself to vote for any of the other lying, two faced acolytes of the WEF.

    DNZ will get my party vote.

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    • Wasn’t loose disciplne at all.
      It was an unfortunate selection of people who thought that could control the party because they thought they were more important that the party.
      The board had many discussions and there were no hidden people to those that participated.
      We are better without them and frnaly everyone of them has disappeared into the wilderness and had they remained they would have been uncontrollable.

      FWIW.

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  3. I get what you are saying, BUT. Do you want another term of Liabour?
    I content we need to vote liarbour out and nude nut in by default!
    I know national are incipard bunch of wankers. But we need to be rid of wankers.
    Is a vote for a minor party, who is unlikely to get one member, just a protest.
    Which is unlikely to effect any changes!
    Liarbour have fucked NZ, as we know it and if they continue with the maorifaction it will never comeback without a civil war! How many people will head overseas?
    We and NZ can’t afford another term of liarbour!!!
    The most corrupt government ever in NZ!

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    • We went out for dinner last night at the local. Only three tables of diners and some takeaways. The town was dead for a Saturday, gone is the bustle of people and vehicles scarce as hens teeth as the people can’t afford to drive nor make discretionary purchases. The evil bitch has killed NZ with her ginger ideological clone helping finish it off. The economy is dead. We have reached Winston’s prophecy when he signed with Ardern has born fruit: “CAPITALISM IS DEAD”!

      Was Winston in on Ardern’s plan? Vote NZF for more of the same!!!
      😈😈🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡💩💩💩💩💩💩

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      • Nelson is also a ghost down with a pervasive air of defeat and submission. Nightlife is pitiful. It has always been quiet but this is something else.

        Winston has a proven record of being a moderating force. What he said is correct and capitalism, as we have been doing it, hasn’t worked for anyone particularly well. That does not mean we adopt communism, it means we fix capitalism.

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    • Agree
      That is Ed’s POV
      Mine is that my vote stays in my pocket this time.

      My nephew had his first vote in 2014.
      He repeated to me he knew he had to vote FOR someone.

      I thought about this and realized most of thr time I have voted AGAINST someone.
      To get Muldoon out in 1984. (voted once ever for liebour, forgive moi)
      Then get Liebour out in 1990.
      In 2008 had deep suspicions of l Key – now matured and mostly correct
      I voted, but again Against L, not really For N.

      In 2017 I party voted notional. The last time ever.
      and that was painful. I hated to do it after their abysmal record of messing up Auckland council – direct affect ; Paris Accord, no tax cuts but raised benefits; a completely wasted distraction on the Flag nonsense (a Squirrel) ,
      Only good thing in 9 years was sorting CHC after the Earthquake; liebour of today would have completely screwed this up.

      I feel comfortable to Abstain.
      I am tired of voting Against instead of For.
      In 2020 I voted For End of life; but abstained on the cannabis. It was a nonsense vote like many referenda.

      In 2022 I voted local body for the local reps, but not for Mayor as I saw no palatable track record for W Brown. He is a one term Mayor and our rates are still going up at least twice the rate of inflation and the Akl council is still dysfunctional a year later.
      W Brown-better than the other guy.
      Not hard when it is Efeso Collins, the lying green pardy candidate who said last year he was getting out of politics.

      I abstain unless some great blinding inspiration appears in the next 6 days.
      Matt King will not win Northland and not even be top 3.
      DNZ will not enter parliament in 2023.

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    • Despite SB’s continuing denigration of Matt (oh and rev’s) he is a good man.

      The Nats are desperate upo there.
      Why do you think Luxon finished upthere last week where he got a pasting from an older person.
      They are ging to have a list MP there if they are lucky.

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  4. I do not know the basis of DNZ, that is the financing & how the Board set up, seem to force the resignation of 1 that lead to 3 others also going.
    There is some ‘quietish’ unhappiness about 1 person on the Board.

    Still why the big drop in support?
    Do others know much more than me?

    It does seem that somehow there is an interconnection of between
    “Stop Co-Governance” (“SCG”), though nothing can be found or stated.
    Other than the number who are totally opposed to SCG pointing a finger as being 1 & the same people in Northland. 🙂 Great I thought.
    Julian Batchelor also sees that the fight will most likely continue on, who ever is in power.
    I would have thought with Matt King’s policies of “need” not ethnic would have bought in more supporters.

    Then there is “GroundSwell” which a number of the resigned, have gone on in full support, that opposes the Labour, Greens, National Party policies on Farm Water Plans, Carbon Zero, Emission Plans.
    Understandably in some ways GroundSwell wants to keep the Party politics out of things, but still pushing for a change in Government.

    Both of those above groups, one would have thought would have been championing or indirectly helping DNZ, to see even just a bit more in the polls.

    I can also see the long term, as at one stage, I thought if a more Charismatic person, which had the same principles as DNZ, could be slotted in as No2 behind Matt, & even eventually for Matt to hand over.
    Now that is all much too late.

    The future? will the Party structure survive after the election, and then maybe become a home for some experienced charismatic person? Or just shut-up shop.
    A part of that will be just what does Matt achieve in Northland.
    And then how much Party vote, the protest vote, in that final poll, the election of truth.
    That is what in part will decide.

    But there does seem to remain the point of just what is the problem, whether uncontrolled candidates, ok they are gone.
    But is there a seed of that self-destruction? has it been looked for? has it been sorted? or whatever it was? remains swept under the carpet.
    Openness, sunshine is the best disinfectant, to get what seems to be a problem sorted.

    As a protest vote, DNZ is still much better than not voting at all.
    Or whether which party of an oily rat one decides to swallow ACT, National, or, or postpone the decisions to Winston Peters of whatever.

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  5. HOPE is a four letter word

    HOPE is never a strategy.
    ———————

    Roger Whittaker :-

    No you won’t believe in If anymore
    It’s an illusion
    It’s an illusion
    No you won’t believe in If anymore
    If is for children
    If is for children
    Building daydreams

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  6. I really appreciate what you do.
    I can’t vote for Freedom because Matt King did not oppose the lockdowns when he was in parliament. The whole purpose of the lockdowns was to drive the sheep to the vaccines. Therefore in my view he is just as guilty as the other caucus members of National, Labour, NZ First, Act etc.
    The Loyal party makes a lot more sense to me and I think will easily outstrip Freedom. Loyal is a move away from the status quo. Freedom is not.

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    • The first lockdown came into effect 25 Mar 2020, seven months before the 2020 elections. Matt King was then a first term back bench MP for National who were obviously in opposition.

      The first NZ dose of Pfizer’s poison was injected on 19th Feb. 2021. King was himself vaccinated but objected strongly to the mandates later put in place via the Podium of Truth.

      You are stretching to apportion blame to an MP who had left the House four months prior.

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      • No, as I said Matt King did not oppose the lockdowns when he was a member of parliament. The lockdowns were illegal and immoral. The lockdowns could not have succeeded without Nationals support. Any decent politician would have taken a stand and if necessary resigned. Matt King represented me in parliament, he had no right to participate in the removal of my freedoms.

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      • Ohhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooo you don’t nasska you slippery old bugger.

        You are happy to throw shit at Winston who was not part of government in Arderns second term. But was the only member of parliament to meet with the freedom gathering.

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  7. We live in a democracy – even if it doesn’t always seem that way.
    We can vote for whoever we please, but DNZ won’t get an electorate or break 2% party vote.
    Wasted vote in my view.
    We’ll see who’s right in a week.

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  8. Posted yesterday on HYS.

    As Matt King said at a meeting, very early in the setting up, that the National Party do not want to do any business with an ex National Party Member of Parliament. ! !

    About time one got the hint and not be surprised or live on in that false hope, that even Matt King knows is simply not there from the start for any renegade National member. !
    Surely as an insider you knew that ! ! !

    That becomes an “If only …. …” and not only to be a DNZ whip, but seeming to be also a National Party whip???

    First whipping for DNZ seems to be actively bringing DNZ’s down fall.
    Others whipping for ACT are also seeing ACT’s downfall.
    As if they are the only true way, whilst rationalizing or seeming to sweep any major faults or problems under the carpet.

    Some mention going NZ1 but as soon as whipping starts, they also will go down.

    Perhaps voting for DNZ will be better than not voting.
    Perhaps voting for Brian Tamaki’s Freedom Party may be better, as he will still be more assuredly active, even afterwards, instead of not voting.
    Some mention Loyal or others, but as afterall it is the individual’s “Free Choice”.
    All with out a desperate whip, that seems to call on his “authority” of think of the Consequences, but only on his terms.
    The more I hear that, then it seems there is a pungent odour of something very much wrong with-in DNZ.

    Whether Seymour & Peters can coalesce on having a wide ranging Covid inquiry, that both seem to be in alignment, to hold against National in going in coalition.
    Even if that is achieved, & gotten underway, … great,
    Then call for a snap election.
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
    Then the dirty trick of aligning slurring me with NZ1.
    When last century I first thought Winston could be a future PM, but then chucked all his toys out of the cot. Never voted him or ever supported NZ1
    https://ysb.co.nz/have-your-say-1629/#comment-359051

    It is seems a problem of if seeing lemons & keep on screwing your face, & throwing them away.
    Others will make lemonade & profit from it.
    But putting more sourness around does nothing, in claiming every one is ignorant of the consequences, and then to join with Ardern, parroting the “only source of truth”, & nobody knows and should side with the claimed authority that others are ill read, & ignorant.

    It may seem that Matt King is a virgin arse to ream, & probably does not smell yet, but in doing that, there seems to be a terrible smell arising, that is very off putting, putting many people off to vote for him when a blog monitor, Party whip saying they can see all, know all, becomes consumed.

    Take a break Viking, from being whip, & enjoy life.
    Whatever happens in the election will right or wrong, will be.
    There will be much to be worked at post election, & I mean much more than told you so.
    Enjoy life.

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  9. https://www.facebook.com/DemocracyNZParty

    DemocracyNZ
    Today’s Stuff article is a great example of gutter journalism. Here is the original photo that was cropped and shared by one of the now former candidates, to insinuate something that it’s not. This photo was taken in Feb 2023, after a successful meeting. To twist it into something it’s not, is sinister.
    It’s sad that we’ve reached a stage in politics where it gets dirty – it’s not about sharing policy or a contest of robust ideas and solutions that help us progress as a country – it’s become about mud-slinging and slander. It’s wrong, and it’s appalling that the people perpetuating this are members of another political party vying for votes. It’s dirty politics at best, and we won’t stoop to this level.
    DemocracyNZ has not imploded. ACT has recently lost the same number of candidates that we did four months ago, and they have not imploded. It happens in politics. DemocracyNZ has plenty of support on the ground, and this hit piece five days before E Day is a desperate move to discredit us. We must be a threat, or they wouldn’t want to try to take us out!
    A note worth mentioning here too. If an individual wants to be private, particularly women – it is wrong to breach that right to privacy. Sometimes there are safety reasons, other times there are equally valid reasons. Time changes things and circumstances, and ultimately – in a free and democratic country, an individual’s right to privacy is not unreasonable.
    It’s time to start being adults in politics – our country has major issues that need to be fixed, and these high school bullying tactics are pathetic.

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  10. the butthurt accuser will be proven right this weekend.

    i understand why people are saying fuck it and voting dnz and the other waste of time parties but then in the same breath you want labour gone… thats having your cake and eating it too.

    as you say Ed youre too old to give a fuck anymore and fair enough but many voters arent in your position and other issues are seen as more important.
    imo dnz have missed the boat and its not their doing, if the election was 12mnths ago they wouldve pissed in easy as but the tides gone out on the covid greviances and freedoms.

    ill swallow my pride and vote with my brain not my heart. someone give vikey and Ed the hymnic manouver theyre choking on their pride.

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      • really you cant trust any politician or wannabe politician matt king included.

        out of interest Ed why did you choose dnz over say nzloyal? is it cuz dnz was first in or from the snobbery liz gunn showed a couple years ago when she announced she was starting a party then didnt for ages?

        i cant stand the bitch but i like nzloyal policies more then dnz ones, some are similar but nzloyal ticks more boxes.

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        • Dizzy Gunn was and is a one subject pony. She took her screen learning from Winston’s playbook. It’s all about her.
          What ever happened to that baby that was taken off the parents and given tainted blood. Not a dicky bird from Dizzy

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            • i am wavering but not for a smaller party thats a wasted vote.
              act or nz1 dunno ill probs just decide on friday when im in town and go vote. i like what winnie says but trust him less then seymour, fucked either way so it probs dosent matter really.

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          • once liz and sue grey entered that baby debate it was all over, 2 nutcase women just spurting loads of emotional bullshit.
            glad we agree on the bitch, shes addicted to attention and feelz but then thats been her life while she was in media.

            shes put together her party thing in a clever way, she built her base first via freenz interviews and nutter vids to sucker in some base support.
            vff shouldve done similar or got behind the likes of dnz instead of screwing matt over with the reality of the northland polling.

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