Basic History for the Uninformed:
1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state.
2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.
5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Crusader Frankish and the Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there were the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.
7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
8. there was the Sassanid-Persian Empire before the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
9. Before the Sassanid-Persian Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire again, not a Palestinian state.
10. there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state, before the Byzantine Empire.
11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Jewish Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
12. Before the Jewish Hasmonean state was the Hellenistic Seleucid Empire, not a Palestinian state.
13. Before the Hellenistic Seleucid empire, there was Alexander the Great’s empire, not a Palestinian state.
14. Before Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
16. Before the Babylonian Empire, the kingdoms of Israel and Judah were not Palestinian states.
17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
18. Before the Kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
There have been many governments there, but never a Palestine.
Does that make our green MP’s feel as stupid as they look?
Asked and answered.
They are running this as a distraction to the main game in town – running breathless for the self-anointed locals at TOW hearings. They will be spat out and discarded when the anointed ones have no further use for them. If you want to see the anointed ones obfuscating the process just drop in here and watch them in action: Garry Judd KC Evidence: Treaty Principles Bill
As I expected Duncan Webb proved he is a biased left wing fruitloop.
Should have frozen it at point 10. After the fall of Rome the whole world collapsed….
There’d never been a State of Israel until 1948 either. Therefore, if the argument is “there’s never been a State of Palestine in the past, so the Palestinians can’t claim one now” then exactly the same argument applies to Israel.
It doesn’t matter if there was a “state” there or not: the Arabs has still lived there continuously, and as a majority, for centuries, even if Jews lived there as a small minority as well.
Did you miss 16, 17, and 18?
It says “Kingdom of Israel” doesn’t it?
Moreover, there used to be a thing called the Holy Roman Empire, for instance – just because the Holy Roman Empire used to exist (and for a long time), does that mean the would-be Holy Roman Empire should now be able to invoke a “right” to exist, regardless of what the people living in Germany, Austria, Switzerland and parts of France and Italy think? I wouldn’t have thought so.
The Jews carved a nation from an area they traditionally inhabited.
Muslims have carved nations out of areas they never previously inhabited. And are still doing so.