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Mcduff
6 months ago

Apart from the obligatory spelling mistake in the meme, I didn’t realise Viking was so cute – he looks like a typical grandfather – he’ll get a free uptick from me on his next comment regardless of what he says.

Mike Hunty
Reply to  Editor
6 months ago

Meh, you got it wrong now ya trying to blame the world. I noticed it, but I let it slide. The infringement notice is on its way.

Viking
Reply to  Mike Hunty
6 months ago

No you didn’t.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Mcduff
6 months ago

i thought the spelling mistake was genuine cuz nats are pro bro and love twirling some poi/////

you can see where the grumps comes from tho…. wee man syndrome 🙂 he would give mrs sb a run for her money if they were to compete for shorty mcshorty bragging rights.

Viking
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
6 months ago

You are always wrong, aren’t you?
Sam would be 6 ft 3 probably and I am 5/8

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

so 5/5 without your high heels on? (chill, its a joke vikey)

no wonder the midget luxon isnt seen around him too often then.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
6 months ago

Will V2 get a gong in the next year’s luck dip!

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Sooty
6 months ago

I just checked out your website.
World famous in NZ, is our Vikey!

I am a stupid boy
6 months ago

remember when he spoke to a dnz candidate and become chief know it all on all things dnz… i guess he now knows everything on the inner workings of the nats too.

hope you had permission Ed or youre gunna be in trouble! i hope that was ripped from facebook too otherwise even more trouble.

Viking
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
6 months ago

Nope. But I guess that irks you that I have customers who like what we do and who are proud to promote local business. It does this all the time as he goes around

Doesn’t mean I will vote Nats because I won’t.

Actually, Sam, it turns out, is a very commercial guy. There’s a lot in the conversation that I won’t repeat.

Wait until he shows what we are doing next.

I don’t expect you to understand being a recluse in a backwater.
As for your misformation on DNZ, I was more involved at a local level than you know.

Last edited 6 months ago by Viking
Mike Hunty
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

“Don’t you know who I am??!! FIGJAM 😂🫵

bobthebldr
bobthebldr
Reply to  Mike Hunty
6 months ago

So you’re the ex mayor of Wellywood.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  bobthebldr
6 months ago

The mayor’s desk is available for polishing with bodily fluids!

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

Did you give him a free curtin clean?

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

lol read my last nights reply to one if your comments, thanks for proving my point on the lil bit of knowledge thing 🙂

it dosent irk me one bit vikey i like to see success for others that have earned it. youve been in business for quite some time and it appears youre quite successful, kudos for that mate. youre obviously not such a miserable grump in person just as im not as much of a cnut! (im still a clown and joke/wind up tho).

your ability to bite at near any bait i place is your downfall old chap, plus you take things said in jest to heart. i bet if we met and you didnt know who i was we’d get on like a house on fire, i have more in common with older generation than my own age, i have more friends over 60 than under 60.

lighten up old chap and learn to banter and have a bit of fun from time to time, ill try to teach an old dog a new trick!

I am a stupid boy
6 months ago

FAKE NEWS…. just standard tap water in the spa/hot tub will get the clam to open, stupid boy would never advocate wasting precious time that could be spent rooting trying to get 1000L of seawater.
just like cooking actual shellfish, hot water makes em opened up and poke their lil tongues out… its seeing the beard like mussels have that would catch you off guard 🤣

dang, i really need a spa pool again!!!

Last edited 6 months ago by I am a stupid boy
Hooker Phil
6 months ago

Hey – Hey – A meeting of great minds yesterday with S.B. Realised after you had left that we don’t have a off site contact as I want to give Mrs S.B. your definite better half a list of all things that will make her feel good.
No, you are not on the list but I am sure that after she gets all the good things from me you will be rewarded in the normal manner.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Hooker Phil
6 months ago

ask Ed for my email addy mate, or cell number if he has it?
mrs sb was impressed with how often your name appeared on certificates and esp impressed with the giant monsters you grow, she has quite a few of yours she took photos of and would love some tubers… she did mention we have to detour to waimate during our usual august trip to timaru.
stupid boy isnt a bludger either mate, have no worries paying or bartering.

but was good catching up with you again HP, you didnt recognise me did ya!!! pretty sure the last time i seen ya i was alot more hairy and feral, plus ive lost almost 20kg since then.
anyways i quite enjoyed tagging along with mrs sb and lil miss sb (well shes not so lil now), first time ive ever went to a flower show and i found it quite interesting and didnt realise theres so many different types of dahlias.

Last edited 6 months ago by I am a stupid boy
waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
6 months ago

HP will be happy to take payment from your gold stash.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  waikatogirl
6 months ago

as long as its on value and not gram for gram!!! mind you mrs sb has shown me the price of some tubers and youd swear theyve got a fair bit of gold hiding in them for their price.

Sooty
Sooty
6 months ago

You have been outed now.

Mike Hunty
6 months ago

That’s Viking?

nasska
Reply to  Mike Hunty
6 months ago

It’s V2. Look at the eyes.

Everything behind them is out to lunch! 🙂

Mike Hunty
Reply to  nasska
6 months ago

oohhh youre in trouble now. I can see the headlines. “Pensioner attacks Pensioner Both Arrested By Police”

Viking
Reply to  nasska
6 months ago

Wait til Ed gets your pic and I know how to do that.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

In his budgie smugglers!

Viking
Reply to  Sooty
6 months ago

and totem pole with scribbles.

Curious
6 months ago

I have a mental picture of people I interact with but have never met. Without fail they are completely different to what I had imagined.

Pinky1
Pinky1
Reply to  Curious
6 months ago

Yes, I don’t see any resemblance to a Viking. Do you make drapes Viking ? I’ve been thinking about getting new ones for our bedroom. I’m hoping we get up to Nelson before winter.

Last edited 6 months ago by Pinky1
Viking
Reply to  Pinky1
6 months ago

No, sorry, don’t make anything new, just clean and repair.

Depending on your price point, there are a few options.
Russells used to be down there, Harrisons are onto it, and a few others.
All is the same middle-of-the-road market.
If you want class, then go to a local independent.

If you want cheap, then there’s plenty out there, mostly rubbish stuff.

Pinky1
Pinky1
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

I had our house fitted full length drapes with McKenzie and Willis. They were excellent and competitive. I think they were $5000 12 years ago ( 4 bedroom house) Just the bedroom are double track and the sheers are starting to wear. I want to replace them with an open weave linen type of fabric.

Viking
Reply to  Pinky1
6 months ago

Yep they seem to do good stuff.
Like everything, there are grades of linen and some nice fabrics around these days.
Any printed stuff should be colourful fast, and preferably have a uv rating of 7 or 8.
No one will tell you unless you ask.
$5k doesn’t buy you much these days. Depends on the fabric price. that can range from $20.00 for tun outs, and I have had fabric worth $900.00 a mtr wholesale and they can go higher.

Saggy
Reply to  Curious
6 months ago

I remind myself a lot of George Clooney, if that helps.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Saggy
6 months ago

in my early 20s i used to get stopped and asked for photos cuz half blind idiots thought i was richie mccaw, thank fuck that hasnt happened for the past 15yrs cuz it was very annoying and embarrassing… i aint no rugby homo!

the irish lads in aussie pubs were terrible for it, maybe the beer goggles helped the likeness? but happened quite a few times here in nz too.

now i just ressemble some feral homeless bum or bush hermit. i have recently managed a haircut and some new less tattered clothes so it may take a few months to fully feralize myself again.

Viking
Reply to  Editor
6 months ago

Has saggy had as many wives as Clooney?

Curious
Reply to  Saggy
6 months ago

Judging by your name I had a somewhat different mental image.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Curious
6 months ago

nah thats his ballsack and manboobs, now digest that mental image!

Mike Hunty
Reply to  Saggy
6 months ago

NURSE!

Starving Artist
Starving Artist
6 months ago

I had to prove I am not a robot before I could open this site. Is this a one off or a permanent new feature?

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Starving Artist
6 months ago

i havent had that since the site upgrade. maybe youre super special SA, its no big deal anyways is it just tick a box and off ya go. every second website has that shit now

Upyou2
Upyou2
Reply to  Starving Artist
6 months ago

As I have mentioned before. When my VPN is set to NZ Ysb fails to connect. That now includes AU.

FJA
FJA
Reply to  Upyou2
6 months ago

Weird. Mine’s on NZ. No issues. Nord?

Upyou2
Upyou2
Reply to  FJA
6 months ago

Surfshark

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  Editor
6 months ago

Has Ed proven he’s not a robot? 🤖

Viking
6 months ago

Actually, he came in as a customer.

We are able to communicate with many people. Happily.
Sam is quite a tall guy.
Came in and then spent about 45 minutes with us as we showed him around at what we do.
The first time I had met him, and I have to say I was impressed with him as a person.

Last edited 6 months ago by Viking
I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

obviously by the photos you still get a fair bit of business but before you on ysb id never even heard of getting curtains cleaned.
genuine questions how the hell did you get into that vikey?
and has throw away culture and cheap curtains from likes of the warehouse etc seen a decline in business?

im guessing you cater more to those large or expensive custom curtains etc rather than average joe citizens standard jobs.
i just about fainted at the cost to get large curtains made for our lounge bay window a few years back, was several thousand but one outfit had an end of line fabric they gave us a good deal on, still 1500 odd bux tho. thank god the rest of the house has normal size windows/curtains!

Viking
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
6 months ago

Oddly enough, the early model warehouse curtains lasted much better than what you get from those type stores today. China got better as cutting costs.
Same for the other cheapies.
The sun is the destroyer of cheap shit. Plenty of that around, so we often get curtains we refuse to wash. The rubbish bin is the best place. They are usually what are misnamed thermal curtains, which are rags covered in several layers of a paint-like product. It breaks down in the sun.

Lots have a crappy lining, so we can cut that off and reline with good quality material. There are lots of variations of that theme.
The oldest curtains we have done that for were from the Wairarapa, and they were 100 years old velvet. Looked immaculate when finished and will last another 50 years.

Fabrics with low or no UV rating will bleach out in the sun, and linings, especially thermal or blockout, will get destroyed.

The thing with all coloured products used in a house or anywhere is that every year colours change and colour bases change, Cars do that, each year new colours.
So as your interiors age, new colours don’t match your colour scheme. So to do that, you finish up buying new carpet, wall colours, either paint or paper, and so it goes through the list to curtains, furniture and so on.
Now, few can do that every few years and curtains and blinds get dirty from many sources, humn\ans CATS, dogs, birds, insects, dust, warm dry houses (yep., and there is an obvious explanation for that), floods, fires and life in general, so people have them cleaned.

So to answer your question, items come from all sorts of places, including commercial and industrial, usually way after they should have been cleaned.

Good curtains are expensive, and the bigger the houses and the bigger the windows, the bigger the curtains or blinds. When we started, the average height was around 1.98 mtrs and about 2.4 mtrs wide. Today, 2.7 and 3.6 and its not uncommon to go to 4.0 mtrs high and up to 7 mtrs wide, with anything in between. Definitely not washing machine size.

One curtain alone could cost the buyer 2.5-3k
Then there are Interlined, which would be common in cold areas, and you can add maybe 50% more.

All the curtains are cleaned by hand, i.e. there are no machines, as every single job is different.

And some have to be dismantled for various reasons, then put back together. Some fabrics shrink, so we have to fix that as the last thing the lady wants is curtains back with their petticoats hanging down. (We are the only ones in NZ who do that).

Its a much more complicated process than anyone realises.
To make that worse, there are always new products used. usually there is little of no information on the product to be found. If you think of all the types of clothing and fabrics you have encountered in your life, you can bet someone somewhere has made a curtain of it.
And there is no standard type of construction, although that is changing now with the automated systems that people like Harrisons and others have.

So all this is our daily challenge, and jobs come from all over the country. Even occasionally from the South Island.
The big challenge is tracking everything as jobs can be 1 item and anything up to 40 or more.

Thats where my time has gone into this last year, building a better system using ServiceM8 as the base and building an add-on which we now have running on other SM8 customers’ programs.
Been a lot to learn. Still a bit more to do.

As this is all out in here, I will add the website where you can learn more.

https://www.curtainclean.co.nz/

If we can be of help, then the contact details are on the website.

Viking
Reply to  Editor
6 months ago

No thanks, and were you 100 and you got a rebore to last another 50 years, then you would be kinda excited.
It’s a fabric, and Velvet is made from cotton.
I only clean them, not make the fabric.

You’re getting the disease that others have around here.
Not like you.

Mike Hunty
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

Doors over that way then >>>>>>>

FJA
FJA
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
6 months ago

I never bothered with window coverings in a few rooms for quite a while. I noticed that the neighbours put up blinds in theirs, though.

Last edited 6 months ago by FJA
waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  FJA
6 months ago

Some blinds are not opaque at night so careful wandering out to the fridge naked in the middle of the night unless you want to give the neighbours a thrill.

Mike Hunty
Reply to  waikatogirl
6 months ago

Disgusting. Where do you live.

rightoverlabour
Reply to  waikatogirl
6 months ago

what’ s your address? I suppose you write this nugget from experience…

That’s the beauty of rural living. no one can see you frolicking around naked, inside or outside….

Anyway getting back to your wanderings at night…… Hunty asked me to ask.

Viking
Reply to  FJA
6 months ago

Roller Blinds are all the g,o but if you want warmth, etc., curtains and honeycomb blinds.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Editor
6 months ago

Very good to the biker, well done!

Viking
6 months ago

Further to the discussion yesterday with Dylan about AI.

Sponsored Content Here’s what that means for the future of work in New Zealand. Cognizant’s ‘New Work, New World’ report, developed in collaboration with Oxford Economics, explores generative AI’s influence on productivity and the future of work, revealing that up to 90% of jobs will experience some level of disruption within the next decade. From entry-level analysts to senior executives, roles will evolve as Gen AI becomes embedded in everyday workflows. Some workers will need to learn how to work with Gen AI as it assists with some job tasks, while others will see their roles taken over by the technology. Cognizant’s research predicts a sharp acceleration in adoption between 2026 and 2030, as Gen AI shifts from simple task automation to a strategic enabler of business transformation. Organisations that prioritise AI literacy and workforce readiness today will be best positioned to lead in this new era. Against this backdrop, participants at the recent Building the Foundations for AI Success roundtable co-hosted by Cognizant and the New Zealand Herald suggested New Zealand was falling behind in AI considering it became the last country in the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) to launch a national AI strategy in July this year. Founder of postgraduate education company AcademyEX and AI Futurist, Frances Valintine said the national strategy lacked a “north star”. “It was more like a plan than a strategy. New Zealand needs to look at where it can differentiate itself in the AI sector and thinking more widely about the sort of talent it wants to attract and how best to upskill the current workforce,” Valintine said. Valintine believes the key is to upskill the current workforce now and ensure the country is introducing AI into early learning to prepare future generations. Interestingly, fellow roundtable participant Chris Bradley who heads up Enterprise Architecture and Portfolio management at telco 2Degrees has recently engaged AcademyEX to assist in their company’s AI month. He said it assisted the company gain a broader understanding of AI beyond technical considerations, including how it can help with sustainability and addressing ethical challenges. “AI looks very different to a radio access network engineer than it does to our legal or commercial team, so being able to actually engage people at a different level and get them to use AI in their particular functions so they can see it’s not just a technology function driving their outcomes was helpful,” Bradley said. A key discussion point was the need to educate people on how AI can augment human workers and help business functions evolve, while shifting away from doom-and-gloom narratives about AI’s potential impact towards a focus on opportunity and growth. Taking this into account, ANZ Banks’ Innovation Enablement Lead, Emerald Cagney, said part of that education is ensuring the right guidelines are in place. “At ANZ we have a lot of guardrails and we’re very clear about when people should be using AI and when they shouldn’t be using it,” Cagney said. “We’re a firm believer of having a human in the loop. AI is about augmenting our bankers to support our customers with better insights, so we must ensure the right people have access to the right tools as well.” “What we’re seeing is definitely an evolution and it comes back to education and ensuring people are staying up-to-date and continuing to learn and be future-ready,” she continued. To prepare its workforce for the future, ANZ Bank has launched a number of AI master classes and established an AI immersion centre, which has engaged about 400 of the bank’s leaders. Cognizant New Zealand Markets Lead, Kat Carter, agreed having a human in the loop is especially important in the security space. She calls it human-centric security awareness. “What this means is moving beyond basic training to adaptive, AI-enhanced education that evolves with threat landscapes and empowers users to recognise deepfakes, social engineering and AI-generated scams,” Carter said. Going further on the education front, Ana Ivanovic-Tongue, who sits on the Executive Council of the AI Forum, said the forum is there to assist all local businesses with education in the AI space and has a number of working groups working with different industry sectors. “We’ve got a working group for agriculture, education, health, environment as well as a kāhui Māori working group, which is looking at data sovereignty and governance, and a Pacific working group,” Ivanovic-Tongue said. “Each one of these groups have their own activities to support the sector and it’s very much around collaboration, connections, education, literacy and assisting businesses that do not have AI policies.” For Valintine, New Zealand needs to pick up the pace on AI and work on being future ready now because the country doesn’t realise that the gap (with more prepared nations) is going to get bigger over a very short period of time.

nasska
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

…..”empowers users to recognise deepfakes, social engineering and AI-generated scams”……

That should give government & its departments a fair shake-up.

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  nasska
6 months ago

“We’ve got a working group for agriculture, education, health, environment as well as a kāhui Māori working group, which is looking at data sovereignty and governance, and a Pacific working group,”
Seems to be a lot said with “tongue in cheek” concepts.

Would there even even be a by-line to an actual bonadfide writer,churnalist of that?

AI most likely sponsors AI;
It all becomes who can skim & scam, clip the ticket, by riding the money wave.

See it was not even worth the time editing, to produce paragraphs, space, emphasis, em-bolden, so it seems it was not even read in the first place.
If it was edited, then one can figure at least that Viking may have had read it & have some comprehension of what it is all about.

Not even worth a link to, as probably to some real dodgy set up in NZ.
Seems to revolve around quotes from whoever in hi-salary Foundations, Oxford economics, sounds where Ardern also has attained a hi-paying remittance, ANZ immersion Centres, etc..
Again looking to to skim, scam money with their fees, levies, etc..

Where others may even comment, debate or discuss; if its self acclaiming self-importance is actually real.?

Last edited 6 months ago by Simpleton1
Viking
Reply to  Simpleton1
6 months ago

Go to the link and have a look.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

did ai write that?

Viking
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
6 months ago

Did you open your eyes long enough to read the article?

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

no, i mostly scroll paste lengthy copy paste crap.
looks like ai vomit 🙂

Viking
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
6 months ago

there’s ya problem then.
1-2 second attention span.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

25-30 second attention span. 3-5minutes if i find something interesting

Viking
6 months ago

Kiwi business view of AI

NZ leaders explain why clean, connected data drives AI value. For at least a decade, data has been referred to as the new oil because of its role in driving digital transformation. Artificial Intelligence (AI) is no different and its rapid expansion has led to an even greater demand for data. Once considered a cost centre, data now forms the foundation of AI and fuels business outcomes. At the recent Building the Foundations of AI Success roundtable, Kat Carter Markets Lead for Cognizant New Zealand, said that while AI is becoming central to enterprise systems, complexity in data environments is a major roadblock.

https://businessdesk.co.nz/sponsored/ai-is-only-as-good-as-its-data-foundation

Here’s what that means for the future of work in New Zealand.
Cognizant’s ‘New Work, New World’ report, developed in collaboration with Oxford Economics, explores generative AI’s influence on productivity and the future of work, revealing that up to 90% of jobs will experience some level of disruption within the next decade.

https://businessdesk.co.nz/sponsored/generative-ai-will-disrupt-90-of-jobs-what-it-means-for-the-future-of-work

Last edited 6 months ago by Viking
I am a stupid boy
6 months ago

why didnt trump just roll with 15% tariff from the outset yesterday rather than look like a spastic doing 10% then raise to 15%?
or is looking like an unpredictable spastic part of the “plan”, meh when the markets open on monday we’ll see what or if any impact it makes.
i guess he needs to look unpredictable when hes playing the “will i, wont i, what shall i do” game with threatening iran.

FJA
FJA
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
6 months ago

Being unpredictable gives him and the U.S. an advantage.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
6 months ago

Mr TRUMP is looking more like Biden these days.
Icecream and pampers, in the nit to distant future!

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  Sooty
6 months ago

Sooty; seems to be writing “nit-wit” stuff.

Last edited 6 months ago by Simpleton1
FJA
FJA
Reply to  Sooty
6 months ago

Consumed too much NZ MSM lately, Sooty?

Trump is all kinds of things, but anything close to Biden he is not. Even on a bad day he’s still doing better things for the U.S. than any of the jokers in nearly 50 years.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Sooty
6 months ago

not even close mate, i think your memory is failing you on biden. ya dont hear much of him now the dems and leftist media have definately memory holed him.
guess the only time we’re gunna hear about him will be his passing if his cancer was too far gone to treat.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Editor
6 months ago

could be but i rekon the cancer thing is legit and he just had multiple issues going on at once. cognitive decline was clearly a big one, it was very very obvious over his term to the extent they could no longer manage or hide it.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
6 months ago

He had dementia and Parkinson’s and then he said he had cancer (prostate?)

Biden also has a narcissistic and stupid wife who kept an old man on the world stage way past his use-by-date for her own enjoyment

Viking
6 months ago

So you tell a rough sleeper to move on.
To where?
And if they don’t comply, you fine them $2000.00 or send them to jail.

These Nats are fucked in the brain.

That’s no solution to the problem.

The Government is giving police the power to issue ‘move-on’ orders to ban rough sleepers for up to 24 hours, a move Police Minister Mark Mitchell calls a “public safety” measure.
The Summary Offences Act will be amended to provide police with the ability to ban people who are sleeping rough, begging, obstructing a business, or displaying disorderly or threatening behaviour.
The banned individual would have to move “a reasonable distance” from the area, as specified by the police officer. It would apply to people aged 14 and older, and the penalty for breaching the order would be a maximum $2000 fine or up to three months in prison.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360941973/government-gives-police-move-powers-ban-rough-sleepers-beggars

Komata
Komata
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

Viking

In respect of the ”$2000 fine or up to three months in prison’:

There are those ‘streeties’ who will love this, since by not paying the ‘fine’ they will automatically get ‘Free Board and Lodging’ for THREE WHOLE MONTHS!

Knowing that NZ can become VERY cold in Winter, what is there not to like?

(BTW, this is just the Kiwi ‘variation’ of what has been going-on for centuries in the UK (Don’t ask how I know), with the mantra amongst many crims (Especially the older ones) being; ‘Clock a copper, plead guilty before the Beak and keep warm throughout Winter’.
It works every time…)

Last edited 6 months ago by Komata
waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  Editor
6 months ago

Three months B&B at Mt Eden.

Isn’t ‘moving them on’ bringing back what the law used to be?

nasska
Reply to  waikatogirl
6 months ago

The law used to allow police to hold drunks in cells until they had sobered up or a JP was available & ready to hear their bail application. Usually they were charged with being disorderly in a public place. Bail would be granted at 10 shillings ($1) & when their case came to court the magistrate would fine them 7/6d & 2/6d court costs.

Most of the regulars, & there were plenty, would always keep a 10 bob note in their shoe in reserve to avoid lengthy stays in the “drunk tank”.

Although the bleeding hearts abolished it all in 1981(?) it was quite effective in its goal of keeping the peace. A couple of my mates ended up in the Wellington tank one Saturday night & were considering going teetotal by the time they dragged their sorry carcases in front of the magistrate on Monday morning. 36 hours without sleep with twenty other no-hopers spewing & pissing everywhere tends to focus the mind. 🙂

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  nasska
6 months ago

tends to focus the mind.  🙂

So for some it would be like looking into a mirror, of the past, present & future.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  nasska
6 months ago

I don’t have personal knowledge but I imagine being held with those coming off meth is not a picnic anyone would want to repeat. 😵‍💫

Saggy
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

“So you tell a rough sleeper to move on.
To where?”

Well I hope nobody takes this the wrong way, but I’m thinking Huntly or Ngaruawahia.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

yea a bit silly, obviously they mostly have addiction issues and no money so a fine is just pointless.

being rounded up a mandatory detox cell for a few days would be a better deterrent, the thought of not being able to get their fix will strike more fear into them than anything else. the bleeding hearts will call it cruel and harsh plus want “wrap around services” but that shits available now and they choose not too.
from experience you cannot help someone esp an addict unless they genuinely want help and want to change. by all means if they ask for more help while in detox then give it to them but my guess is 99% wont.

Viking
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
6 months ago

For many its worse than drugs or booze.

nasska
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

Detox for alcohol is taken more seriously nowadays & for good reason. We used to joke about the DTs but they can be fatal.

The one & only time I went through detox it basically involved being dosed with Valium (diazepam) until you’re not sure which way’s up, tapering off over about five days.

By day 5 you’re feeling really sorry for yourself & probably of a mood to listen to what the counsellors are saying.

I’m a slow learner so it took three stays at rehab until I got the message.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  nasska
6 months ago

When the old drunkard F-I-L was up at Waikato hospital many moons ago his nurse told hubby to bring his old man a bottle of stout to prevent the DTs. Easier than dealing with the DTs and stout is apparently nutritious as well.

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nasska
Reply to  waikatogirl
6 months ago

That stout had some incredible properties assigned to it in days past. As I recall nursing mothers were encouraged to neck a bottle a day.

Nowadays the wowsers & do-gooders would have conniptions at the thought but stout did contain useful amounts of magnesium & B group vitamins.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
6 months ago

I found this UK govt Act brought in to allow govt departments, employees and govt contractors the right under law to commit crimes to protect the well-being of the UK economy. Interesting it came in during the covid era.

Does NZ have a law giving such protection including ideological nutters?

The Covert Human Intelligence Sources (Criminal Conduct) Act 2021 is an Act of the UK Parliament that provides a statutory framework for authorising covert human intelligence sources (CHIS) to commit criminal acts in the course of their duties. 
It received royal assent on 1 March 2021 and amends the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (RIPA) to introduce criminal conduct authorisations (CCAs). 

Key Provisions

Criminal Conduct Authorisations (CCAs): Enable public bodies to authorise CHIS to engage in criminal activity if it is necessary and proportionate for:National security,Preventing or detecting crime or disorder,The economic well-being of the UK.Scope of Authorisation: CCAs are parasitic on existing CHIS authorisations and cannot exist independently.  They apply to both officers and non-officers of public bodies.Covered Bodies: Powers extend beyond intelligence agencies to include the police, HMRC, SFO, NCA, FCA, CMA, and other public authorities. 

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Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  waikatogirl
6 months ago

I just basically extended a search to relate to NZ.

AI :—
In New Zealand, the authorization of Covert Human Intelligence Sources (CHIS) to commit otherwise criminal acts is governed by a strict legal framework focused on national security, primarily under the Intelligence and Security Act 2017.
While intelligence agencies (NZSIS and GCSB) use human sources, they operate under different legal constraints compared to the UK’s explicit CHIS Act 2021.

  • Intelligence and Security Act 2017: This Act enables intelligence agencies to collect information lawfully. If an activity would normally be unlawful (e.g., trespassing or obtaining private records), it requires a warrant.
  • Warrant Authorisation: Intelligence warrants can authorize activities that would otherwise be criminal, provided they are necessary, proportionate, and for the purpose of national security, such as counter-terrorism, espionage, or organized crime.
  • Restrictions on Human Intelligence: The Act specifically provides that intelligence warrants can authorize human intelligence activity, except for activities that involve the use or threat of violence against a person or that pervert the course of justice.
  • Immunities: The Act provides immunity from criminal and civil liability for employees and people assisting the agencies (including sources) when they act in good faith, in a reasonable manner, and in accordance with an issued warrant or authorization. 

Oversight and Accountability

  • Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security (IGIS): The IGIS has oversight of all intelligence warrants and can review the “propriety” of agency activities.
  • No Self-Tasking: Agencies are not allowed to “self-task” for criminal investigations; they must operate under ministerial and judicial oversight.
  • Ministerial Policies: Specific ministerial policy statements provide guidance on human intelligence, focusing on legality, proportionality, and the protection of human rights.

Note: The Crimes (Countering Foreign Interference) Amendment Act 2025 has further strengthened the laws around foreign interference, which impacts how foreign-directed criminal acts are handled, but this is distinct from the general domestic CHIS framework

On another angle was the entrapment by police, to such a level, to gain confidence of the alledged suspect, to gain evidence or an admission, to create a court case. to bring them to supposed justice.

Pethig court case
UCO = UnderCover Officer
https://www.studocu.com/en-nz/document/university-of-otago/introduction-to-law/entrapment-notes-summary-of-topic/1735778

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/307070/mr-big-approach-'unlikely-to-work-again

I am looking for a case a while back that was NZ, relating to how Canadian police also used the same system of Mr.Big, but I think it backfired?

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
Reply to  Simpleton1
6 months ago

Talked big to Under cover Police, joined gang & supposedly skited but with no proof but still then prosecuted, jail for murder, no body.

The podcast links on Lyttle & Big show a sort of curious flow of events.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/mr-lyttle-meetsmr-big/story/2018895486/a-closer-look-top-10-police-disclosure-failures

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  Simpleton1
6 months ago

Thanks S1.

Not a law that ‘Starmer the Harmer’ should be in charge of. Nor Adern
😈 🤡

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waikatogirl
waikatogirl
6 months ago

Huge explosions over last few weeks in Iran including military infrastructure and ammunition dump but no one claiming responsibility. Pressure rising as military equipment so old their aged fighter jet falls out of sky killing pilot.

https://rumble.com/v760yg0-huge-explosions-erupt-in-iran-as-iranian-fighter-jet-crashes.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
Dr Steve Turley

nasska
6 months ago

And in the latest from Tauranga’s Sunset Village:

Tauranga-45
Ross12
6 months ago

The little guys won. The Pascoes, the farmers in Taranaki who have been battling NZTA over having part of their farm taken under the Public Works Act. for a major road works project near Mt Messenger have won their case in the Supreme Court.
A long interview with Liz Gunn

https://youtu.be/sXGdcdcubsw?si=_yzfEqscwIxrgDwJ

Viking
Reply to  Ross12
6 months ago

NZ lost. They will not be treated kindly.
The place is an absolute swamp.
They would have been better off dealing a deal.
In the end, the taxpayer pays for this.
Ya can’t live in the 1900’s anymore. Never could and yes I know property rights and all that.

Viking
Reply to  Viking
6 months ago

long and interesting.
In esccence NZTA should not exist as it is.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
6 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YuE8lMEQd3k
Rupert Lowe – “They’ve had enough of it”
short

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