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Hooker Phil
3 months ago

It is pouring down and very windy, looked at the forecast. It says light rain.
OK Southland, I will learn this new language.
Wonder whether the oyster boats will be going out in light rain.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Hooker Phil
3 months ago

sounds like its still summer there then HP.

Viking
Reply to  Hooker Phil
3 months ago

Woke up late to light rain. Not forecast as it was going to be fine till next week.
Have had some cracker days.
Our Tanifa said he will get it under control again.

The hill owners are not happy after their on-site inspection the other day.
Millions are needed to reinstall the walking track.
They are planning now how to rip the TCC ratepayers ( and note I said ratepayers, not renters and sundry dross) for an extreme amount to give the walk-away free to boat tourists and sundry other non-paying customers for the betterment of the tourism operators, apparently.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Viking
3 months ago

I down ticked because the renter’s pay rates. It’s built into the rent don’t ya know

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Sooty
3 months ago

no sootz, if you think that then renters alao pay the mortage so they then own a house???

Last edited 3 months ago by I am a stupid boy
Curious
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
3 months ago

I agree with Soots on this one. They do pay the mortgage as well just not their mortgage.

FJA
FJA
Reply to  Curious
3 months ago

If they did, then landlords wouldn’t have to top up outgoings. That’d be nice.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Curious
3 months ago

landlord insurance aswell… if the renter dosent get the payout, own the house then they shouldnt get a vote for them supposedly being ratepayers.

tennants pay RENT, not an itemised invoice.
same as you buying a bottle of milk from supermarket. you buy a bottle of milk not buying a cow, paying fert, power, filipino labour, trucking, processing, stocking shelves, checkout chick etc

Last edited 3 months ago by I am a stupid boy
Curious
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
3 months ago

Of course it isn’t an itemised invoice. With the milk I would suggest that you are paying your share of all the costs involved in getting the product to market plus a margin for the retailer. If you weren’t no would would sell the product.

Viking
Reply to  Sooty
3 months ago

Illegal to charge renter’s rates, so no its not.
Just another dummy who doesn’t know the rules.
Look it up in the Residential Tenancies Act.

If the rents go down and the rates go up, who pays?
If the property is empty, who pays?
Who gets the rates bill?
Who is help responsible for paying the rates even if the tenant doesn’t pay their rent? (a common occurrence).

Who loses the property if the rates are not paid?

See, the renter is not responsible for paying the rate.
They are paying for the space they rent.
How a landlord distributes those funds is the landlord’s responsibility.

Unlike anything that is metered, that can and should be the tenant’s responsibility, as should the rubbish collection.

I would argue that even their sewerage disposal should be metered.

No different to councils charging you for parking in town but charging you nothing outside your house, so that the street is now filled with cars and almost impassible at night.

Curious
Reply to  Viking
3 months ago

Yes VK but any landlord will include rates in the calculations on what rent to charge.

Ross12
Reply to  Curious
3 months ago

While I agree with you and nasska, on the face of it, I think residential rentals are one of the “cleaner” market forces businesses.
The landlord will charge what he thinks the market will bare or what it takes to get the property rented out. Then he can go backwards and see how much of the rates, insurance, interest cost are covered. Then maybe he has to do what FJA suggests, and top up if needed and if he has got it right they maybe able to pocket a surplus.

nasska
Reply to  Editor
3 months ago

Mainly because the accommodation supplement is usually referred to as Welfare for Landlords.

nasska
Reply to  nasska
3 months ago

Hmm. The customary downtick from today’s duty troll representing the Sheltered Workshop of Landlords Inc.

Somewhere a supermarket is missing its resident retard in charge of trolley collection.

Viking
Reply to  nasska
3 months ago

Wasn’t me, but you are the one who follows the Pak n Slav trollies around your town. which you regularly report on.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Viking
3 months ago

Renters should only be allowed to move out only after finding a replacement Tennant.

nasska
Reply to  Curious
3 months ago

Of course they do. They wax long & loud about the costs of doing business. Rates are a cost, as is insurance & maintenance (okay….just joking).

Annual costs plus the figure they pull out of their arses divided by 52 is the weekly rent.

bobthebldr
bobthebldr
Reply to  Curious
3 months ago

I wish.

Saggy
Reply to  Hooker Phil
3 months ago

It says light rain. OK Southland, I will learn this new language.”

If they forecast cold, I’d be packin my bags.

Tarquin
Reply to  Hooker Phil
3 months ago

Never stops raining up here.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  Tarquin
3 months ago

Beautiful sunshine in the Waikato but we’ve had a week of glorious days so bound to be rain and wind before long. Making the most of it while it lasts ☀️

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Tarquin
3 months ago

Well ain’t you lucky!
Haven’t had any for a week or two.
None in the forecast either.

The Ancient Hooligan
Reply to  Sooty
3 months ago

We too, in the Darkest King Country Soot’s, are in the depths of a severe drought that has no end. Plants will start to wilt, but not wither, if it continues another 6 weeks.

The Ancient Hooligan
Reply to  Editor
3 months ago

Not for the local growers especially in Ohura, but the consignments bought in on the Black Harley Davidsons on Sunday afternoons from up North with very dodgy looking suspects controlling them, well that is a different matter.

nasska
Reply to  Editor
3 months ago

Fine weather & low humidity should be assisting the growers trying to dry their crops. Harvesting is traditionally timed to coincide with the opening salvoes of the duck shooting season.

Chuck Bird
Chuck Bird
3 months ago

National’s Minister for Women does not support this common sense bill.
NZ First’s gender definition bill passes first parliamentary hurdle
https://thespinoff.co.nz/the-bulletin/21-05-2026/nz-firsts-gender-definition-bill-passes-first-parliamentary-hurdle

The Ancient Hooligan
Reply to  Chuck Bird
3 months ago

 “Labour’s Camilla Belich said it was “pointless and a complete waste of time.”

This Labour MP, M/s Belich, whose spouse was the Labour Party General Secretary who was the fall guy for the 2018 Labour Youth Orgy at Waihi which Cindy also attended, obviously does not know what a Women is, much like her Party Leader, the habitual liar, Chris Hipkins. I guess being the Daughter-in-Law of the Mayor of the Ruapeheu District is her only redeeming factor. Apart from that, a totally useless former Lawyer and Parliamentarian.

Chuck Bird
Chuck Bird
Reply to  The Ancient Hooligan
3 months ago

This shows all the speeches
Legislation (Definitions of Woman and Man) Amendment Bill – First Reading
https://videos.parliament.nz/on-demand?id=d49a051c-6ea8-4238-b1ee-08deb6914639

wiseowl
Reply to  Chuck Bird
3 months ago

Good to expose what the pollies really believe in.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Chuck Bird
3 months ago

She must be a cock in a frock.

Viking
3 months ago

This is a revealing read about the conduct of the NZ police. 4 years on and 2 trials. Lots of lies and plenty of evidence, the police are still denying their guilt.
The IPCA needs to be replaced with non police associated people.

Because it’s the Herald, I will put it up.
It’s the sort of good stuff they can do.

I have removed the pics and a video, which you can see here.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/racism-claim-after-good-samaritan-jamie-lawry-charged-and-then-found-not-guilty/7UPFV2VZYBDHRBGIP3WLXS2F5U/

Racism claim after ‘good Samaritan’ Jamie Lawry charged and then found not guilty
Is there racism in our police? Is it systemic? In Northland, many Māori parents raise their children to be cautious when encountering police. But what happens when a young Māori man didn’t grow up in New Zealand and didn’t get “the talk”? David Fisher reports.
Jamie Lawry had never encountered police until he tried to help someone on his way home from a family dinner.
For young Māori men in Northland, encounters with police are all-too common – but Lawry didn’t grow up in New Zealand.
He spent years in Brisbane, Australia, with grandparents, returning to New Zealand in May 2021 hoping to connect with his culture.

And then came that first brush with the law: police pinning him to the ground with a knee to the back of his neck as they handcuffed him. He wonders if it was racism.
That’s because CCTV footage didn’t support the police version of events that led to the forceful arrest, five hours in custody, a list of criminal charges and almost four years in the court system.
Then after all that, Lawry was found not guilty.

One night out in Whangārei
Early Saturday morning on March 12, 2022, in central Whangārei, Jamie Lawry was sitting on a low brick wall chatting to a man we’ll call Burgundy Shirt.

CCTV cameras had captured Burgundy Shirt’s escapades since leaving the Grand Hotel a short way down the road.
He had taken exception to another man in a car park over the road from the pub. The two men had punched each other in the head a few times before throwing their arms around each other and going their separate ways.
Weaving off down Bank St, Burgundy Shirt then saw a couple of the council’s City Safe security staff.
“Watch out for this dude. We’ve had problems with him,” said guard Adam Barclay as Burgundy Shirt approached. The other, Mark Todd, replied: “Oh yeah, he’s the one that charges us.” Their voices were captured on body cameras.
As predicted, CCTV footage shows Burgundy Shirt lunging at the guards.

The man in the burgundy shirt (left) was pursuing City Safe officers until, in the foreground, Jamie Lawry stepped in.
Over a handful of minutes, Burgundy Shirt charges at and menaces the guards while they move to stay out of his way. Barclay calls for police support.
As the CCTV camera ticks over to 12.36am, Jamie Lawry (Ngāti Wai, Ngāpuhi-Nui-tonu, Ngāti Whitikaupeka, Ngāti Tūwharetoa) walks into view. He briefly chats to the guards as Burgundy Shirt turns again to focus on the pair.
Video captures the moment – as described by Todd – that Lawry began “trying to calm” Burgundy Shirt.
“I thought to myself ‘good on him’ for trying to calm [him] down … trying to de-escalate the situation,” Todd said.
Lawry shepherds the man away from the guards, up Bank St. Their heads are close, as if talking. Each time Burgundy Shirt tries to turn back, Lawry steers the man forwards.

Todd later gave a statement saying that he had been so concerned for himself and Barclay he thought they might have been forced to defend themselves.
Jamie Lawry is pushed by the man in the burgundy shirt (at left) as he attempts to calm him.
It’s five minutes since Lawry arrived and his efforts appear to have worked. He sits with Burgundy Shirt on the low brick wall and the CCTV operator breaks away to scan the street.
This footage – and that from the security guards’ body cameras – would be critical to Lawry’s defence. Working for Lawry’s lawyer, private investigator Mike Sabin recovered it after police told the district court it was “too grainy” to be of use.
The footage captured Burgundy Shirt fighting in the car park, and later he and Lawry sitting on the wall. Another angle showed the guards down the road talking to others on a Friday night out.
Todd: “Things seem to calm down and we were just watching from across the road and then the police turned up.”

‘Then the police turned up’
Four officers arrived early that morning in 2022. The Herald has decided not to name them.
The CCTV footage shows the first police car arriving and two officers walking across the road to the two men.
The first officer to cross the road later told the court that when he and his partner pulled up, the City Safe security team had pointed to Burgundy Shirt, seated on the wall, chatting to Lawry.
That officer – Officer A – later told the court he looked across the road and believed the two men were those who had earlier exchanged blows.
He didn’t stop to check then, or later, as the City Safe guards watched the officers arrest Lawry. If he had, he would have learned Lawry was not one of the two men who had been fighting near the Grand Hotel.

Four police officers arrive to speak with Jamie Lawry and the man in the burgundy shirt. Lawry was found not guilty of resisting arrest, disorderly behaviour and assault almost four years later.
Officer A: “As I approached [Lawry] I formed the belief that they were making up, they were resolving, and [Lawry] was … a little bit unstable on his feet.”
Lawry has disputed this, along with much of what police claim. He says he only had a few drinks over the course of his evening at a family gathering.
Two other police officers arrived. The City Safe staff crossed the street to watch as the officers quizzed Lawry and Burgundy Shirt.
One of the officers asked Lawry for his name and address.
“Tahemi,” Lawry replied, according to his statement and a later interview with the Herald. He says he then asked: “Why do I need to provide you my address?”
Under New Zealand law, no one needs to tell police who they are or where they live unless an officer demands it by citing an Act of Parliament – as is common when stopped by police for speeding.
Officer A’s evidence regarding Lawry was different. “He exhibited signs of belligerency … he didn’t want to give us his details, and he was argumentative.
“He started to swear at me after I made suggestions about taking him home … I believe he told me to ‘f*** off’ and called me an ‘f***ing liar’ … he clenched his fists, his facial expressions changed.”
The police version of events differed from Lawry’s – and the two witnesses who were not police officers.
Todd’s statement said: “… I didn’t hear the young guy saying anything abusive to police – yelling at them, swearing or sparking up – in any way at all.

“I could hear the young guy sort of saying to the police that [Burgundy Shirt] is okay and that he was just a bit intoxicated.”
Barclay, too, later told the court he heard no swearing, aggression, or threats from Lawry.

Officer A, though, had decided to arrest both men.
For Lawry, there would be two trials. The first in 2024 was aborted for logistical reasons – then there was a full trial in October 2025. At the first trial, Officer A testified he had arrested Lawry for not providing his details. In the second trial, he claimed to have arrested Lawry for disorderly conduct.
As seen in the CCTV footage, he reached out and grabbed Lawry’s arm to put him in handcuffs. “I went to pull him up and he actively resisted by pulling away from me.”
This led to Lawry being charged for resisting arrest.
Officer A: “We stood him on his feet and took him to the ground … he was actively resisting and we believed he was involved in a fight.”
CCTV video shows three officers pulling Lawry from where he is sitting. Two officers hold his upper body while another lifts his legs. Lawry’s head swings close to the ground as he is forced onto the footpath.
Former police senior sergeant Darcy Forrester – a 25-year veteran whose former roles include teaching officers about use of force – analysed the footage for Mike Sabin, the former police detective who was investigating the case.
Sabin was initially hired by Lawry’s lawyer through legal aid funding, which ran out quickly. He then felt “compelled” to continue without payment, he says, out of concern over Lawry’s arrest and police actions.

Forrester’s analysis found “no obvious” reason for the officers to pull Lawry from the wall. He also noted the body language of the officers – none appeared under threat, or had prepared pepper spray or handcuffs.
He said lifting Lawry’s legs created a dangerous situation for him because the officers at the top of his body didn’t have enough control to stop him from “hitting the pavement”.
Lawry is handcuffed as one officer bends his heels towards his backside while another appears to drop a knee across his neck.

Forrester also noted body camera audio in which Lawry can be heard saying: “I will, I will.” This was presented at trial as evidence of his compliance.
He said it was unclear how much – if any – weight was being applied to Lawry’s neck and head but described the position as one that could lead to suffocation.
He noted there was no apparent reason for using the “leg lock” to immobilise Lawry, given the technique was known to be painful.
Officers either side of Lawry then used his restrained arms to lift him to his feet. Forrester said the fact Lawry’s feet left the ground meant “the entire weight of his body is being leveraged from his shoulders”.
Lawry was then marched across the street, arms lifted painfully high behind his back.
Throughout, Forrester said, there was no sign of the officers seeking Lawry’s co-operation.
In contrast, a single officer cuffed Burgundy Shirt and walked him normally to a waiting police car.

Forrester reflected on the various tactical options police are trained in.
“It is my opinion that Mr Lawry has not committed any offence alleged,” he said, adding that he could have been allowed to leave.
“Mr Lawry could also have been left where he was seated to continue with his night as he posed no threat to his own or public safety.”
Instead, Lawry was placed in the back seat of a police car. He told the Herald: “I had just sat down when [an officer] kneed me straight in the head and things went pretty hazy from there.”
CCTV footage was shown in court, and Lawry’s defence lawyer said it showed a sharp movement on the part of the officer.
Officer A told the October 2025 trial that he had struck Lawry with a “significant or powerful” knee to the leg or buttocks – not head – after the handcuffed man had grabbed at his belt.

The court hearing was the first occasion in which Officer A mentioned the alleged grab at his belt and his use of a knee – events not recorded in his notebook or statement.
Defence lawyer Matthew Ridgley: “What I suggest to you [Officer A] is you’ve deliberately left out that detail because it doesn’t look good. What do you say to that?
Officer A: “No.”

‘The talk’ – how to deal with police
In the United States, they call it “the talk”. A documentary by that name came out a month after George Floyd’s death and the surge in the Black Lives Matter movement – black parents teaching their children how to behave in response to police interest so as to avoid becoming victims.

The talk happens here, too.
Martin Kaipo is chief executive of health and social services agency Te Hau Awhiowhio o Otangarei Trust, based in Northland, where Māori make up around 40% of the population. He says those conversations are common and necessary.
“[Young people] are trusting in the system until they become victims of the system. A lot of fathers and mothers are saying ‘be wary of police’. It’s not just Pākehā but Māori police. It’s the system.”
In 2024, Understanding Police Delivery (UPD) – a major report into unconscious bias among the police commissioned by former police commissioner Andrew Coster – found that being Māori increased the chance of being prosecuted by 11% compared with Pākehā.
Māori also made up 42% of people tasered during the review period, despite comprising 17.8% of the population.
While it was being researched, a national review was launched into police taking illegal photos of rangatahi without their consent. An investigation highlighted that rangatahi Māori were disproportionately represented in the photos.
comment image?auth=75f5c58a18aab83408d37d69fdf197bf71229cc58580270ab8250620fd011ce6&width=1440&height=810&quality=70&smart=trueThe death of George Floyd sparked protests around the world.
Last year, the new police commissioner Richard Chambers and police minister Mark Mitchell denied systemic racism in police.
The UPD final report put forward around 50 recommendations, saying: “We would expect to see significant measurable change within five years if the recommendations are implemented.”
But when Chambers took over, focus moved to “core policing” and frontline delivery and just a handful of the report’s recommendations were progressed.
The Herald asked police about the current data skew against Māori and the finding of “systemic bias”.

Rakesh Naidoo, Acting Assistant Commissioner Iwi Community and Partnership, said it was accepted by police its data – and that of the wider justice system – “shows Māori are disproportionately represented in the criminal justice system both as offenders and victims”.
He said the skew “doesn’t reflect race‑based decision‑making by officers“ and there is more work to do to “reduce unjustified disparity” through evidence‑based decisions, stronger supervision, critical decision training and learning.
When force is required, he said “police deal with everyone the same … based on the threat presented”.

Lawry, the search and the cell
It’s 12.48am when the police patrol car containing Jamie Lawry pulls into the processing area at Whangārei’s central police station.
Cameras show Lawry marched from the police car by two officers and “towards a wall and had his head banged into the wall”, Forrester says. “This would be forceful enough to cause an injury.”
The two officers pinning him to the wall are joined by a third as Lawry is searched.
Handcuffs are removed. Forrester describes Lawry as standing and steady on his feet. “He is not aggressive in any way.”
Lawry had nose piercings he had never removed. He says he told the officers he didn’t know how to remove them. CCTV footage shows three officers taking Lawry to the ground.
Sabin says the officers then used pliers to cut the piercings free while another removed Lawry’s boots. The police wouldn’t comment, but the court hearing was told removal of jewellery considered to pose a threat is generally carried out before someone is placed in the cells.
Then, the pounamu worn around Lawry’s neck was removed. Clasping his hand to it while speaking to the Herald, he says: “There’s a lot of mana that this holds with me. It’s been through everything since I received it. I’ve never removed it.”

Lawry is walked through a metal detector, which flashes red each time he passes. Repeated pat-downs and a wand detector fail to reveal anything further.
Four police officers look on as he loosens his belt and drops his jeans then removes his T-shirt.
“So, at this point, I’m in my underwear and my socks,” he told the Herald. “The officer then pointed to my socks and he said, ‘Can you also take your socks off?’

He stripped naked after repeatedly setting of a metal detector.
“So I complied. I took my socks off and I thought at that point, ‘you’ve already taken everything else you may as well have it all’.”
Lawry strips completely and walks naked through the scanner, setting it off again. He then pulls his underwear on and stands facing police.
Forrester’s account of the video continues to describe Lawry as showing no aggression at the point three officers move to lift him – briefly assisted by a fourth officer who lifts Lawry’s legs – into a holding cell.
Watching the CCTV footage, there appears a brief moment of struggle as the officers lay hands on him. Lawry says he had asked if he could use the toilet and was refused. Police did not respond to Herald questions about this.
He was placed in a cell that had no toilet and urinated on the floor – an act he said he couldn’t avoid. Police said it was further evidence of his non-compliance.
Finally alone, Lawry says he searched inside himself for calm and found it elusive. He decided to carry out a haka.
Years later, at trial, Lawry was quizzed about the haka and the suggestion it threatened violence towards police. One officer’s evidence stated Lawry’s “behaviour worsened”, describing him stripping off his clothes, starting a haka, and “speaking in native tongue”.

Lawry to the Herald: “I said ‘kia ora’ to them. I told them my name was Tahemi, which is Jamie in Māori … I think we know that it’s te reo Māori, not ‘native tongue’.”
While in the cells, Lawry was again asked for his name and address. The request at this stage later became important at trial. At the first trial – which was stopped – the arresting officer gave evidence that Lawry was charged for not providing his details when quizzed on the street. But at the second trial, the charge of not providing details was pegged to this request in the cells.
It was established in the trial that police had already searched Lawry’s belongings and found his driving licence, so they knew who he was and where he lived – meaning police already had the details Lawry was charged for not providing.
About 3.20am, police say they intended to take Lawry home. The cell door opens and officers move on Lawry again, handcuffing him and bundling him into a police car.
Sabin queries why Lawry is handcuffed at this point. If, as police say, he was being taken home without charge, then he was a free man – with no need for handcuffs.

Lawry’s testimony was that he was handcuffed on the concrete floor of the police station then picked up and put in the back seat of the waiting police car.
“By that stage I was very exhausted so I was kind of hanging out of the car. I then saw [Officer D] came up to the door and grab it and slam the door, which looked like as hard as he could, but luckily I saw it and I was able to move my head out of the door.”
It’s a fresh serious allegation from Lawry – one which he was accused in court of inventing. What happened in that police car also led to a fresh serious allegation – of headbutting – against Lawry.
But seven important minutes of footage – from 3.22am to 3.29am in which both incidents are claimed to have happened – was unavailable.
Police initially said there was no footage because Lawry was transferred to the police car outside the station.

After police notebooks references recording this were sought, police then acknowledged the transfer did happen inside – but the CCTV footage had been overwritten.
Officer D, the one alleged to have slammed the car door, had been the one responsible for securing the footage.
In a police job sheet, Inspector Wayne Ewers wrote: “There is no obvious reason for these missing time periods, and it simply appears to be the incompetence of the staff using the system.”
Lawry was returned to police cells and slept until 6am. He claims that’s when he was told his rights for the first time. Police claim this, and the chance to contact a lawyer, happened earlier in the night.
Lawry also says he was refused the chance to call a lawyer for advice about the bail bond he was given to sign. He says he was told to sign or be transferred to Ngawha prison until Monday morning.
“Because I had things to do and I really didn’t want to be held in prison over the weekend, I just signed the paper, just to get it done so I could be released.”
He refused a ride home and walked out of the station. It would take almost four years before the case was resolved.

Lawry – ‘I was assaulted that night’
The morning Lawry was released, he visited his grandmother at Matapouri on the coast where his wider family collectively own land. She photographed visible injuries and packed him off to White Cross.
eJamie Lawry the morning he was released from Whangārei police station.
There he was found to have a suspected concussion, abrasions to his forehead and left shoulder, sore and swollen wrists, significant pain in his hips – and a sore neck which has needed ongoing treatment.
Lawry found a lawyer, turned up at court and pleaded not guilty to failing to provide his details to police, disorderly behaviour and resisting arrest.

He was also charged with assault on police – which requires the prosecution to show the officer assaulted was attacked in the lawful execution of their duty.
Lawry’s defence probed whether police were actually lawfully carrying out their duties at the point he was arrested. And so the charge changed as the case progressed. It went from assault on police, to assault, to assault with intent to injure, eventually rising to such seriousness that a conviction could have seen Lawry imprisoned for up to seven years.
amie Lawry stood trial and was found not guilty at Whangārei District Court.
According to Lawry, that changed each time he rejected police offers to agree to a plea deal.
If he would admit to a minor charge, the rest would be dropped and he’d get diversion – meaning no conviction. But Lawry said that didn’t feel right.
“To me it was really a no-brainer. If you’re not guilty for something, you’re not going to plead guilty for it.”
The first trial in 2024 was derailed requiring a new trial to be held in October 2025.
During the second trial, Officer A explained how he had assumed Lawry and Burgundy Shirt were the two men reported fighting. CCTV footage at the trial showed Lawry was not one of those men.
Officer A was also challenged over his arrest of Lawry. In the first trial he had said Lawry was arrested for failing to provide details. By the second trial, he said Lawry was arrested for disorderly behaviour.
Asked why his evidence had changed, Officer A said it was because he had now seen his notes.
But the 2024 trial transcript showed Officer A had consulted his notebook before testifying then.

Lawry’s lawyer Ridgley said: “What I suggest to you [Officer A] is since that first trial and this trial, you’ve changed your evidence because you’re now aware that it’s not an offence to not provide details in that situation. What do you say to that?”
Officer A: “No.”
The police case faced other difficulties, and the jury returned a “not guilty” verdict on all charges except for that alleging Lawry had refused to provide his details while in police custody at the station. That charge was dismissed.
Claims Lawry was abusive and swearing contrasted with CitySafe bodycam footage shot from just metres away showing no sign of that.
The security guards told the court they didn’t hear raised voices or swearing – the justification Officer A had claimed for the disorderly behaviour arrest.
The officers present testified that Lawry was told he was under arrest for disorderly behaviour. The body camera footage did not capture those words.

Lawry’s family had gathered in support through the trial and was there to see him cleared.
“When the verdict came out that it was not guilty, it was like a sudden release of all these emotions and feelings that I’ve had for the last three-and-a-half years,” Lawry told the Herald.
“It wasn’t just clarity for me. It was clarity for everybody in the room that day.
After Lawry’s night in the cells, others told him they’d agreed to plea deals then instantly regretted it, saying it was just to get it “over and done with”.

Asked why he was arrested, Lawry says: “To be honest, I think I was stereotyped. You know, young Māori boy out in town causing trouble. Maybe that’s all I looked like to them.”
The police didn’t comment when asked about this by the Herald.
But it’s the reason why Lawry complained to the IPCA.
“If you make a mistake you own up to it and you make it right, you fix that mistake. I don’t want that ever to happen to anybody else again. They should be held accountable and make things right throughout New Zealand.”
Last month, the IPCA rejected Lawry’s request to investigate.
It acknowledged “subsequent inquiries confirmed that Jamie did not charge at the City Safe staffer”, despite that allegation forming part of the reason for his arrest. It also agreed Lawry “was not obliged to provide his name in the circumstances”.
And while Officer A gave conflicting evidence under oath at the two trials, that in itself was not evidence of perjury – a crime for which there is a high bar for evidence.
It said police had told it that the discrepancies were “due to confusion and the passage of time”.
The watchdog said police could still lawfully arrest someone if officers believed an offence had occurred at the time. “This does not render the initial arrest, subsequent detention or any reasonable force used unlawful in retrospect.”
It said it had “not identified any misconduct in respect of the decision to arrest Jamie”.

There would also be no investigation into allegations by Lawry that the force used was excessive. The “limited quality of the footage and dark conditions” make it difficult to see what has happened. Police were also entitled to use force to remove jewellery that could be used to harm or effect an escape.
And even though Lawry started raising complaints about his arrest in April 2023, the IPCA said another reason it would not investigate was the length of time that had passed since his arrest. Any charges the officers could be prosecuted over could not proceed because the allowed time period had passed.
The issues raised, the IPCA said, could have been – or were – raised in court.
“We will not be taking any further action on your complaint and your case will be closed.”
District commander for Northland Superintendent Matt Srhoj said the officers involved in Lawry’s arrest did not realise when they responded to threats of a disturbance that “the instigator involved in the initial event had already left the scene”.
He said officers were “dealing with an individual who was highly intoxicated” – which Lawry denies – who “refused to comply with directions given to provide details”.
“Despite being advised of the consequences, he continued to refuse to provide details and was subsequently arrested. Had details been provided at the station, he would have been taken home and that would have been the end of the matter.”
Srhoj said police “do acknowledge some human error handling CCTV software which resulted in some footage being misplaced” which was “regrettable”.
He said many of the issues raised had been addressed by the court process which had not made adverse findings against police.
Lawry is appealing the IPCA decision. He struggles to accept almost four years of his life – and his faith in police – can be hijacked by an attempt to help while out in Whangārei.

“I was assaulted that night. It was an eye-opener that’s still very raw. I didn’t like to think that we had racism here in Whangārei but that to me it’s still very prominent.”

nasska
Reply to  Viking
3 months ago

It had to happen.

RIP
Viking
Reply to  Editor
3 months ago

Uneducated fossils at that!

Hooker Phil
Reply to  Viking
3 months ago

Half an hour ago I read waaaayyy up there

The IPCA needs to be replaced with non police associated people.”

I agree.

Viking
Reply to  Hooker Phil
3 months ago

Just as does the Medical Council, the Teachers Bashing Group and many others. Professional shysters mostly.

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Viking
3 months ago

ok vikey, you win the longest copy paste.

Starving Artist
Starving Artist
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
3 months ago

Abridged version: coops are scum.

Next up:War and Peace (unabridged).

Viking
Reply to  Starving Artist
3 months ago

many are, some are not.

Viking
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
3 months ago

Well, they complain when I put a link.
Too tight-arsed to pay, so what is a well-informed man ot do?
You can crawl back under your tractor seat and do something useful.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Viking
3 months ago

Oh, he does! Useful only to himself!

I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Viking
3 months ago

wasnt complaining just saying you win

Saggy
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
3 months ago

Think I might’ve just worn out my mouse scroll wheel.

Viking
Reply to  Saggy
3 months ago

cheap to buy.

Viking
3 months ago

The real opportunity behind public sector reform – Cecilia Robinson
This week, Finance Minister Nicola Willis announced plans to reduce the public service by nearly 9000 roles over coming years, alongside significant agency mergers and a greater push toward digitisation and artificial intelligence across government.
Predictably, the announcement has sparked strong reactions. For many public servants and their families, this news will feel deeply unsettling. Behind every role is a person, a mortgage, children and uncertainty about what comes next.
That human reality matters and should never be dismissed lightly.

I am confident this is ultimately where New Zealand will head as technology continues to reshape how organisations operate.
Because, in an AI-enabled world, the real opportunity is not simply to reduce headcount.

It is to fundamentally redesign how government works, remove duplication and reinvest productivity gains into the frontline roles, retraining pathways and small businesses our country needs most.
Nicola Willis pointed to 39 separate HR departments across the public service. New Zealanders should be horrified by that level of duplication. In a country of five million people, it makes no sense to maintain dozens of fragmented corporate functions operating in silos.

The serious question is not whether the public service should change. It is whether it can change fast enough, thoughtfully enough and with enough ambition, while also supporting people into the roles New Zealand desperately needs more of.

More ;https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/the-real-opportunity-behind-public-sector-reform-cecilia-robinson/premium/DM24DPDWWBAYJF53AFB7UUHIM4/

Its a good view of the way AI should grow in NZ.
Good read, actually. Naaska, of course, can’t or won’t despite all his noise. which emphasises the problem nationwide.

nasska
Reply to  Viking
3 months ago

In an ideal world the sky would be blue & fluffy kittens would play with butterflies. Unfortunately in the real world where I live AI doesn’t represent a grand new way forward nor a way to do things better.

Instead it is a harbinger of a world where technocracy rules, where people are reduced to bytes of information stored in a server farm & human life is meaningless. It will record your every movement, your every word & eventually your thoughts. When you have amassed sufficient negative points it will erase you by withholding the means of subsistence.

Like all technology AI could be used for good or bad.

Predictably it has already been confiscated by those who will use it to control our minds & actions.

Curious
Reply to  nasska
3 months ago

The technology has the potential for far more control than Orwell ever imagined. Unfortunately I fear I may live long enough to see it happen.

Viking
Reply to  Curious
3 months ago

It also has the potential to make your and many others’ lives better. Make your choice and try it.

Curious
Reply to  Viking
3 months ago

I use it frequently in fact I rarely do a traditional google search anymore. Unfortunately the fact that it is a useful tool doesn’t change the fact that it can be used in an extremely negative way which we can’t control.

Viking
Reply to  Curious
3 months ago

Our law is the same.
People are building defenses as we speak.
Here is a good link to keep you in the loop.

The Deep View <newsletter@thedeepview.co>

nasska
Reply to  Curious
3 months ago

AI will make Orwell seem an optimist. I read something the other day which predicted that AI would eventually cull disobedient humans in a way that no dictator could simply because it would never get tired.

Orwell had witnessed the rise of automation & subsequently concluded that if it could be used to replace the work of drudgery, it could be perverted & used to replace the joyous parts of life as well.  Humans would toil as drudges while machines would create the arts.

Those whose survival instincts dictate that they should obey won’t betray nor be a risk to the regime promoting AI. In any case if you are too tired from forced labour to think about anything other than survival & your communication has been reduced to Newspeak your options don’t exist.

The moral Orwell left us with was a simple one.“Don’t let it happen. It depends on you.”

Viking
Reply to  nasska
3 months ago

It’s well beyond your brain capacity.

You really have little choice.
Continue driving a gig or buy a new electric car and learn how to drive it.

Viking
3 months ago

The Herald is changing, has changed with new management.

Less dross and good investigating. More coming as well from an inside contact.
Oh, and I don’t own any shares, but it might be worth it.

Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Viking
3 months ago

Local rag has changed too. Still print edition but only a shadow of its self.
No internet edition, gone to a thing called the Post.

Viking
3 months ago

The Government is moving ahead with plans to expand road user charges to all light vehicles, saying petrol tax is no longer a fair way to fund roads as hybrids and fuel-efficient vehicles become more common.
Road user charges already apply to diesel and electric vehicles, but the system has long been unpopular during fuel price spikes and cost-of-living pressure.
Transport Minister Chris Bishop says the proposed electronic system would modernise how drivers pay for using the roads.

#RoadUserCharges #NZPolitics #Transport #FuelPrices #ChrisBishop #NZNews

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Sooty
Sooty
Reply to  Viking
3 months ago

Let’s hope they include e scooters, E bikes, with rego too!
All cyclist to be single file only!

nasska
3 months ago

Last night the suggestion page of You Tube which showed a way forward for those of us who wish to remain free.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8aLGHmnRyc details one man’s way to fight back against AI.

His answer….. “Data Poisoning”. AKA, the gentle art of using AI to poison AI.

Although it deals with the theft of music copyright there’s probably no reason why the protest shouldn’t extend into other fields of knowledge which are being ransacked to forge the chains which will soon enshackle us. If nothing else it should be therapeutic.

Viking
Reply to  nasska
3 months ago

When using it, you have to set boundaries and yes, it can go off the planet.

I have read a paper on that. Might post it later
.
Claude is the safest and most conservative.

Simpleton1
Simpleton1
3 months ago

This last paragraph rang a bell for me in a number of ways.

…… that Europe survives only because the rest of the world permits it to endure.
  When you depend upon the United States, Japan, India, China, Russia, and the Middle East to produce everything that Europe’s dying empire needs, then you have no leverage or real power in the world.
  European imperialism is dead because Europe has no armies or navies to enforce its “rules-based” edicts.
  European imperialism is dead because sane nations refuse to impoverish themselves in the name of carbon credit tyranny.
  European imperialism is dead because Europe opened its doors to an Islamic invasion. ……
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2026/05/irrelevant_europe.html

Sort of as often quoted, where Britain goes, NZ goes..

A sort of mixture of how New Zealand makes claims of self righteouslly “punching above its weight” leading the way with out any real considerations of consequences.

And how we sell ourselves down the drain by blithely putting in paragraphs into the trade deal with India, & in support of UNDRIP, which is in activation by CoGovernance
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO2605/S00056/the-undrip-clause-no-one-voted-for-how-it-appeared-in-new-zealands-trade-agreement-with-india.htm

Then the dubious “Paris accords” and the take of that money from New Zealanders that then slush funds itself into even more dubious areas.
India will find a way allow NZ money flow, in Kindly “Investments” ? ulitimately backed by the “tax payer” or a high cost to the NZ consurmer.

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Saggy
3 months ago

Nice one Audrey. Duane Leo is full of it:

Spot the differenceThe Public Service Association more than most unions has attempted an appearance of political neutrality, not least because the concept lies at the heart of its members’ work. But perhaps it should give up the pretence.

The press release with its response to the announcement of $2.4b of cuts was headed: “Public Services will be decimated by reckless plan to fire nearly 9000 workers”.
“This is an act of wilful destruction of the public service and all New Zealanders will pay a price for this reckless plan,” it said.

Its response to a similar move by the then-Labour Government on August 28, 2023, to find $4b in savings was contained in a press release headed: “Public service workers must help identify savings in Government new cost cutting drive”.

It was issued by the same person, national secretary Duane Leo, at the same union, for even deeper cuts, but by a Labour Government.

The press release cooed some more: “While it’s never a good time to cut spending on public services, we understand as revenue falls during challenging economic times, savings need to be found”.

There is no doubt that the PSA does some great work on behalf of its members and there is no doubt that this Government is more hostile to unions than a Labour Government would be. But perhaps the PSA should just drop the pretence and affiliate to the Labour Party.

Viking
Reply to  Saggy
3 months ago

They slosh the money over.

waikatogirl
waikatogirl
Reply to  Saggy
3 months ago

More on the wokeys in parliament. “Deliberately backpeddled on coalition policy reform”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw9Xoff_JPE
Michael Laws outlines the petty (but important) sabotage conducted by Wellington public servants

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waikatogirl
waikatogirl
3 months ago

Hipkins will save NZers from being pig ignorant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7YMzdbIPhs
Mike’s Minute: So yes, Chris Hipkins does think you’re stupid

Mike Hosking discusses Chris Hipkins, Labour’s policies and their lack of details heading into the election.

Last edited 3 months ago by waikatogirl
nasska
Reply to  Viking
3 months ago

Celebrating what? The State will house the real no-hopers & the private landlords will get the better class of State tenants. Seldom has a measure, barely equivalent to arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, received such fanfare.

I am a stupid boy
3 months ago

hilarious, another TACO day.
even more hilarious is trumps blinked again by conceding hes open to a smaller scale deal to just get the straight open and not address the larger issues/goals.

told ya so, he knows hes fucked if he continues on with operation epic failure. the only winners from this are the jews, oil companies and trumps corrupt insider trading mates.
trump/usa will achieve next to nothing and iran will come out stronger, wiser and now more then ever know their future survival rests on procuring nuclear weapons to deter america

Viking
3 months ago

𝐁𝐄𝐙𝐎𝐒 𝐎𝐍 𝐓𝐀𝐗𝐄𝐒: ‘𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐍𝐔𝐑𝐒𝐄 𝐈𝐍 𝐐𝐔𝐄𝐄𝐍𝐒 𝐏𝐀𝐘𝐈𝐍𝐆 $𝟏𝐊 𝐀 𝐌𝐎𝐍𝐓𝐇 𝐒𝐇𝐎𝐔𝐋𝐃 𝐆𝐄𝐓 𝐀𝐍 𝐀𝐏𝐎𝐋𝐎𝐆𝐘, 𝐍𝐎𝐓 𝐀 𝐓𝐀𝐗 𝐁𝐈𝐋𝐋’
“𝘈 𝘯𝘶𝘳𝘴𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘘𝘶𝘦𝘦𝘯𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘴 $75,000 𝘢 𝘺𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘱𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘯 $12,000 𝘢 𝘺𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘢𝘹𝘦𝘴. 𝘋𝘰𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦? 𝘏𝘰𝘸 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘸𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘵 𝘣𝘺 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘯𝘶𝘳𝘴𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘘𝘶𝘦𝘦𝘯𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘱𝘢𝘺 𝘵𝘢𝘹𝘦𝘴? 𝘈𝘵 𝘢𝘭𝘭. 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘣𝘰𝘵𝘵𝘰𝘮 𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘧 𝘰𝘧 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘺 𝘱𝘢𝘺 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 3% 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘢𝘹𝘦𝘴. 𝘞𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘥 3%. 𝘞𝘦 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘯’𝘵 𝘣𝘦 𝘢𝘴𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘯𝘶𝘳𝘴𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘞𝘢𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘵𝘰𝘯 — 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘣𝘦 𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘢𝘯 𝘢𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘰𝘨𝘺.” — 𝘑𝘦𝘧𝘧 𝘉𝘦𝘻𝘰𝘴
Bezos took apart the “tax the rich” frame from a direction the left didn’t expect:
— 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐛𝐨𝐭𝐭𝐨𝐦 𝐡𝐚𝐥𝐟 𝐨𝐟 𝐔𝐒 𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐩𝐚𝐲 𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝟑% 𝐨𝐟 𝐟𝐞𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐥 𝐭𝐚𝐱𝐞𝐬. The math says they’re not the source of the fiscal problem.
— 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐧𝐮𝐫𝐬𝐞 𝐢𝐧 𝐐𝐮𝐞𝐞𝐧𝐬 𝐩𝐚𝐲𝐢𝐧𝐠 $𝟏𝟐𝐊 ($1K/month) is the actual policy crime, not Bezos paying billions.
— His response to Elizabeth Warren’s “you don’t pay enough” framing: ‘𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐝𝐨𝐮𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐭𝐚𝐱𝐞𝐬 𝐈 𝐩𝐚𝐲 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐭’𝐬 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐠𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐨 𝐡𝐞𝐥𝐩 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐢𝐧 𝐐𝐮𝐞𝐞𝐧𝐬’.
— His proposal: zero federal income tax on the bottom 50%, period.
This is a fundamental reframe. The left’s assumption is that more revenue = more help for working people. Bezos just argued: 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐨𝐧 𝐝𝐨𝐞𝐬𝐧’𝐭 𝐧𝐞𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐠𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐚𝐤𝐞 𝐥𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐛𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐢𝐫𝐞𝐬 — 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐧𝐞𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐠𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐩 𝐭𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐡𝐞𝐫.
𝐓𝐚𝐱-𝐭𝐡𝐞-𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐡 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐝𝐞𝐟𝐥𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧. 𝐒𝐭𝐨𝐩 𝐭𝐚𝐱𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐧𝐮𝐫𝐬𝐞 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐲.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1555102726174707&set=a.501955888156068

I am a stupid boy
3 months ago

dang, even here in WA i can hear the shreiks and wailing of leftards and dero housing nz scum emenating from nz.
govt still hasnt gone far enough and why the fuck “reinvest” it into yet more bene housing handouts? all accom supplements does is distort markets and inflate rent for everyone else.

imo state houses should be charged out at market rate, if the woke nats cant stomach that then cap the time allowed to live in state housing, ffs it should be a temporary type setup not a house for life like so many seem to get or think it is. 2yrs max then youre on your own, same with bene. fuck this making a hammock from a supposed safety net.

nasska
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
3 months ago

…..”all accom supplements does is distort markets and inflate rent for everyone else.”……

Now you’ll cop it. YSB is arsehole deep in scum, pretend capitalists who schizophrenically manage to fleece their tenants & the taxpayer at the same time while pretending to be free marketeers & dodging much needed psychotherapy.

Until they can be forceably medicated there is little hope but it is worth mentioning that the accommodation supplement redistributed $2,104,000,00 of tax & borrowed money in the 2024 financial year.

We are awash in two, three & four bedroom Mc Mansions built by the profligates of Kaianga Ora. What if those billions were channelled into building new one bedroom units suitable for the vast majority of those with nowhere to go? $400,000 including land max with a good supply of adapted containers for those who wish to live like pigs. 5000 units a year!

The winners would be the genuinely needy, the homeless & those wanting to by entry level nests which the new measures would free up. The losers would be the parasites who buy up those homes keeping them out of reach of low income families who would see their portfolios of hovels depreciate to the point where they got out of the rort.

Viking
Reply to  I am a stupid boy
3 months ago

Capping was indicated. Its aimed at getting houses for people with real needs. A lot of detail to come.

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I am a stupid boy
Reply to  Viking
3 months ago

vikey old chap, announcements of announcenents. you should know by now with govt nothings a done deal till its done and even then theyre likely to reverse it .

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