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  1. So we are going to be putting up with evolving strains of C V for the next 20 years and apparently the vaccine will need to be continually modified , We are very fortunate We have the all enveloping warm kindly embrace of Cindy and Robbo to keep us safe and secure ,rejoice,hallelujah,hallelujah.
    And CV has given this useless mob of clowns the ultimate excuse for all the coming failures.

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    • OMFG – Fainting Nurse Died?

      Well revtech120, as always the lying fuckers’ narrative hardly seems to be holding up.

      On Friday I commented with a link to video about the Tennessee nurse, Tiffany Dover who fainted live on camera just minutes after being given the toxic sludge GMO Covid vaccine from Pfizer.

      Today the conspiracy internet (OK so the new real media) is full of noise that the poor girl is dead. It is of course not verified in any official way (that would fit the narrative now would it?). However, there are some things that would lead us to believe that the rumours are true:
      a) Fact Checking sites are confirming that the rumour is FALSE (which is as good as a confirmation given how those fuckers are funded by Soros and lied about everything from WMD to Russian pee pee tapes)
      and
      b) no one has seen anything from Tiffany for six days (nothing on her social media sites) – if it was all a conspiracy theory you’d expect numerous TV appearances and social media postings

      But I’m sure this is all just Russian Disinformation and that we should all just blindly comply and say yes to having our genetic make-up altered by a vaccine that actually isn’t a vaccine in the traditional sense (contains no inert virus to build immunity – it just teaches our DNA not to allow us to have any symptoms).

      The vaccine is rapidly turning into an IQ test. Watch the morons queue up and jostle to be first in line to get the DNA fucked around with

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      • Step right up folks, roll up your sleeves like good little sheep now:

        CDC Issues New Guidelines, Launches Probe After 1000s Negatively-Affected Following COVID-19 Vaccination

        “Thousands of people have been unable to work or perform daily activities, or required care from a healthcare professional, after getting the new COVID-19 vaccine, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).”
        https://www.zerohedge.com/c

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        • Alice@0801

          Given the past activities of a certain Bill Gates, especially in regards to the vaccination of children in India, this result would seem to have his fingerprints all over it. Although supposedly an ‘Expert’ on vaccinnes (At least in respect of the fact that they make him very large amounts of money) noticceably he has said absolutely nothing about this result / consequences of the injection, a situation which would seem to belliie his ‘Really caring’ ‘pro-American’ media-presented persona.

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    • I would rather take more note of Robert F, Kennedy.

      Robert F. Kennedy Jr. “People in Authority Lie”
      https://youtu.be/p-5gm0kUXCw
      2 minutes 10 secs : • Dec 19, 2020

      “My father told me when I was a child: people in authority lie.

      If we are going to continue to live in a democracy we need to understand that people in authority lie.

      People in authority will abuse every power that we relinquish to them and right now we are giving them the power to micro-manage every bit of our lives, 24 hours a day.
      They’re going to know where we are, they’re going to know the money that we spend, they’re going to have access to our children.

      They’re going to have the right to compel unwanted medical interventions on us.
      You know, the NAZIs did that in the camps, in World War 2—they tested the vaccines on Gypsies and Jews. ……

      … ……… Nuremburg Charter ……….. …..

      …… These government agencies are orchestrating obedience and it is not democratic—it’s not the product of democracy.
      It’s the product of a pharmaceutical-driven, bio-security agenda that will enslave the entire human race and plunge us into a dystopian nightmare where the apocalyptical forces of ignorance and greed will be running our lives and ruining our children and destroying all the dreams and dignity that we hope to give to our children.”

      Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

      Cindy & Robbo, plunge us into a dystopian nightmare where the apocalyptical forces of ignorance …… …. . …

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      • “people in authority lie”
        We good citizens of NEW ZEALAND, have found out in the past three years, just how true this statement is. Cindy’s default position is to tell lies.

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      • Thank you S1. Whilst I do find parts of Mr Kennedy Jr’s preaching a bit on the irrationally green side of the coin a lot of the time. I do think he’s doing some massive truth-telling at the moment on freedom and liberty re the pandemic.

        If the current lunatic left are too far off the reservation for a bloody Kennedy – then they are truly lost and cannot be saved.

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  2. What a pity, just when they got a virus vaccine, now its obsolete. Oh dear how ghastly life is for the ptpm se didn’t count on the new strain of the covid? The interesting thing is…. anyone I have asked both young and old won’t have the vaccine, thank you all the same kind and very caring Cindy. So the vaccines a useless piece of shit just like she is. Have a fabulous day people and be careful out there the left are out to get us.

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    • It’s amazing isn’t it Lizziep.

      I mean for all of mankind’s existence we’ve had the common cold. And for all of mankind’s existence it has mutated from one winter to the next. The UK’s Common Cold Institute was govt funded for nearly 50 years to find a cure for the common cold and they were shut-down due to lack of success – because OMFG what a surprise – the common cold (Corona virus) mutates all the time into new variants every year.

      The pandemic is about destroying capitalism and crushing every individual’s ability to fend for themselves – it’s all about making us all dole cheque slaves of the NWO.

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  3. DP and Lizzie, as with everything especially in the capitalist World it’s “follow the money” this vaccine thing was just to good an opportunity to pass by, 7,000,000,000 people even at $10.00 each is the biggest fast money spinner in human history especially when most of the research was paid for by the very people that will get the “cure”.

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  4. Only a maths denier can pretend Trump did not win the election and Biden cheated

    I know most socialists do social “science” when the study – but have a look at this – so long as you don’t deny simple percentage sums, it’s impossible to reach any other conclusion than Trump won by a landslide.

    This is all very simple and it is based on the electoral returns provided by all of the US states:
    – 213.8 million US were registered to vote
    – the states’ electoral returns show that aggregated voter turnout was 66.1% (66.1% of 213.8m = 141.3m votes cast)
    – Trump got 74 million votes
    – 141.3m total votes cast MINUS 74m votes cast for Trump = 67.3m votes remaining
    – how did Joe Biden get 78 million votes if only 67.3m were left over after Trump votes are counted?

    Somehow Biden’s total vote count is swollen by over 10 million votes! From nowhere!

    But sure – this was the most legal and fraud-free vote in the history of the US!

    (Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities)

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    • Apparently Mr Farrar explained Biden’s “win” by saying it was all about turnout –getting people out to vote. Was he “right” ? They came out of graves, out of hard drives, out Frankfurt servers, out postal trucks in the dark of night etc. Biden the miracle man ///

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  5. Did you see that a couple of girls who live together got out the turkey baster and both had a baby each together, 4 days apart. Ain’t that lovely! For ever sucking on the taxpayer tit, don’t stop there girls, you get more money for the more you have got!

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      • Dougal10,, both kids will have thick rimmed glasses, top knots, freckles and dress like hippies by the time they are 7, they’ll whack out the first of many kids at 15 and never work a day in their lives and retire with a better pension than you and I…
        OMG I’m becoming so pessimistic just lately, but I like It.

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    • That’s been closed down on Cindy’s request..?
      Similar to Mallard’s refusal to say sorry 24 hours after knowing he did wrong hoping all this sordid mess will go away over Christmas.
      The fishermans story will come out once Cindy takes her place at the UN !~

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  6. Today’s goals: Malign a marxists, garrote a Green, lambast a lobotomized Labour supporter, castrate a communist, terrorize a trendsetter and go to the pub. All sounds fairly reasonable to me.

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    • Tarquin ,Come over to my place you could carry out your list without leaving my house, I’ll be the one at the pub.

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      • Pretty much Sooty, the number of halfwits I’ve had turn up in the last week is mind blowing. Most of them I haven’t seen for at least 6 months and they all seem to think their turning up now and demanding instant service is doing me a favour. I was supposed to knock off at lunch time tomorrow and put to sea on Wednesday , but I probably won’t finish till Thursday and sail to the B.O.I on Christmas day. At least that fits in with the weather forecast and we don’t resume festivities at the coal face until Jan 13th.

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        • That sounds a perfectly idyllic holiday Tarquin. Likeminded yachties/boaties and the clink of beer/wine glasses over a calm and beautiful oasis. Forget the customers for a couple of weeks and enjoy.

          Merry Christmas to all the hardworking good buggars! 🎄

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          • It only works like than on T.V there W.G. Me going to sea is generally followed in short order by a monsoon and we spend the next week dragging anchor from bay to bay trying to find an open bar. Mind you, the good days are great, the fishing is pretty good and I’ve got plenty of books. Have a great Christmas and don’t drink anything I wouldn’t.

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            • I’ll swap you rainy days on board for two 90 year old parents. Gotta make the most of them while they are still here. 🎄Wine will be necessary! 🥳

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            • They went to sea in a Sieve, they did,
              In a Sieve they went to sea:
              In spite of all their friends could say,
              On a winter’s morn, on a stormy day,
              In a Sieve they went to sea!
              And when the Sieve turned round and round,
              And every one cried, “You’ll all be drowned!”
              They called aloud, “Our Sieve ain’t big,
              But we don’t care a button! we don’t care a fig!
              In a Sieve we’ll go to sea!”
              Far and few, far and few,
              Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
              Their heads are green, and their hands are blue,
              And they went to sea in a Sieve.

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    • It’s full blown fucking insanity that so many people believes these absolute lying shit stains.

      A moment’s rational reflection will take you on this fairly simple thought journey:
      1) NZ has been largely isolated from the usual mixture of germs and bugs that is usually brought in by our large tourist industry brings in
      2) therefore we’re not getting a chance to build up and maintain immunity to any new bugs over the past year
      3) OMFG – this is exactly what the fucking government wants!
      4) remember how the Inca and the Mayans got wiped out because they hadn’t been exposed to the common cold and the clap
      5) well fuck me Nora! The longer NZ stays isolated – the more likely it is that we’re going to become just as fragile and bug-vulnerable a population as the now extinct Inca and Mayans
      6) why are these disgusting fuckers doing this to us? (Oh that’s right Marxists always want to do everything they can to build dependence on the state – destroy everyone’s livelihood, destroy our natural immunity to disease, make everyone weak and reliant on the “kindness” of the State)

      But for 7/8 of the population, that kind of reasoning is several levels of cognition beyond anything they’ve ever managed before – so we continue with our mass Stockhold Syndrome society.

      Fuck! I despise morons.

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      • I spent the weekend with a couple of elderly relatives.
        They are terrified of Covid and tune in for the daily reports- revolving their lives around what St Jacinda and Ashley tell them…
        “Jacinda is keeping us all safe dear you should be thankful” etc etc
        When did people lose their ability to think critically? and actually question the narrative??
        If Queen Jacinda told them to drink Kool Aid and lie down on the grass they would do it. Without a blink of hesitation.
        And this is a couple who voted National their whole lives! (Until the most recent one)
        Chilling..

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        • “When did people lose their ability to think critically? and actually question the narrative??”

          Does old age and the realization of one’s own mortality have something to do with it?
          Maybe people tend to get soft in their advanced years…

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          • Perhaps coming from another culture you could explain something that has puzzled me for years. Now it is my personal observation that the more conservative & religious people are the more they fear death.

            Despite being brainwashed into believing that they will spend eternity at peace with their imaginary Maker they will avoid danger, undergo surgeries & swallow fifty pills a day to postpone their inevitable date with the Grim Reaper.

            Why?

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            • Perhaps the “religious” people are obsessed with “ticking all the right boxes” so that they can go to their heaven. Perhaps they are caught up in the bureaucracy of religion without really having an understanding of it.

              Many years ago, an American missionary (Baptist) in Japan told me that he believed that Bhuddism was not a faith but a series of teachings. There is no “God” in Buddhism equivalent to the Christian God – minor gods and godesses (of Mercy etc.) do appear. Make of that what you will.

              The other major Japanese religion is Shinto. Shinto has no moral absolutes and assesses the good or bad of an action or thought in the context in which it occurs: circumstances, intention, purpose, time, location, are all relevant in assessing whether an action is bad. Think about that for a moment. Can you imagine the potential destructiveness of having Shinto as a State religion? (Yes, well….)

              As for me personally, I do not fear death.

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              • Thanks Odayu-sen. Many people are culturally religious yet as displayed in their thoughts & deeds it is a veneer which doesn’t survive the abrasions of real life.

                Like you I don’t fear a natural death, nor do I look forward to it. Dying is a process of life.

                In any case I’m certain that the gradual loss of faculties & physical ability will ease my way to the crematorium.

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                • As far as most religions agree, we only have one life in this world, so live it well.

                  As Nietzsche said, “One has to pay dearly for immortality; one has to die several times while one is still alive.”

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        • “Does old age and the realization of one’s own mortality have something to do with it?”

          I was the victim of a particularly violent crime a few years back.
          Thought I was going to die/In fact KNEW I was going to die- and the perps admitted to Police they were going to kill me.
          Only a passing Cop (who just happened to have a gun handy) saved my arse.

          So I have literally stared the Grim Reaper in the eye- I know all about ‘Mortality’!
          And I still don’t believe a word that Communist bitch says….

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        • It’s the Jones town syndrome he told them all to drink poison and they did and all died same thing happening here with the vaccine . It’s poison Bill gates poison

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      • Each time I hear someone say Cindy saved us from Covid I tell them no she didn’t, all she did was to delay the inevitable and ensure the outbreak when it does hit is much more severe than it needed to have been.

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  7. “to take an additional step and isolate under supervision at a hotel and be tested before even stepping on the plane.”

    Huh, isn’t that what the National Party was calling for months ago and the Labour Party laughed at them..?
    Wankers !~

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  8. If houses in Otara are now a million dollars, will there be gentrification of South Auckland?
    (I can see the attraction of leafy Glen Innes, despite the schools being exclusively Polynesian.)

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    • Yes. Because incomes are not rising in line with the debt property market.

      In unrelated news – I see mortgage defaults are rising rapidly.

      I bet over leveraged slum lords are worried. Their shyster will still want his shiekles when their portfolio, of mildewed shacks, is worth less than the debt.

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  9. Trump’s Normandy landing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-FBv2rfQIw
    Trump legal team and military generals meet; Meaning behind the Pentagon’s unusual actions

    The clock is ticking for the Trump camp with just over 2 weeks until the US Congress reviews and certifies the electoral college votes—officially locking in the next president.

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    • Saint Jacinda will save us all Comrade!
      She is an even greater saviour than Jesus (According to the propaganda I was just digesting online..)

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  10. The Mexican maid asked for a pay increase. The wife was very upset about this and decided to talk to her about the raise.
    She asked: ‘Now Maria, why do you want a pay increase?’
    Maria: ‘Well, Señora, there are tree reasons why I wan an increase.
    The first is that I iron better than you.’
    Wife: ‘Who said you iron better than me?’
    Maria: ‘Jor husband say so.’
    Wife: ‘Oh.’
    Maria: ‘The second reason is that I am a better cook than you.’
    Wife: ‘Nonsense, who said you were a better cook than me?’
    Maria: ‘Jor husband did.’
    Wife: ‘Oh..’
    Maria: ‘The third reason is that I am better at sex than you in bed.’
    Wife: (really furious now) ‘Did my husband say that as well?’
    Maria: ‘No Señora…the gardener did.’
    Wife: ‘So how much do you want?’

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  11. Over the weekend I read the novel “Submission” by Michel Houellebecq which, by good fortune, I found in the library on Friday morning. It is a long time since I have read a whole novel in only two sittings. It is a disturbing read and I am not sure the Islamic takeover of France will be as relatively peaceful as he suggests but I found it un-put-downable. I have got Houellebecq’s “Serotinin” to start this evening.

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    • With the courtcase underway they can’t raid the foundation’s bank account, no matter how much the little short dwarf wants the money! Proceeds of crime and all of that!
      The old boy needs to roll out dementia as an excuss!

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    • Don’t forget there are two defendants with name suppression waiting to have their day in court.

      Do we join the dots ? Nah !!!!!!! Not yet….

      Asking for a friend….

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  12. Deeply buried, still not talked about by governments or media.

    WHO Says Covid-19 Asymptomatic Transmission Is ‘Very Rare’
    https://youtu.be/NQTBlbx1Xjs
    3 mins 03 seconds, : • Jun 8, 2020

    Jun.08 — Maria Van Kerkhove, head of the World Health Organization’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, says transmission of the coronavirus by people who aren’t showing symptoms is “very rare.” She spoke Monday at a briefing in Geneva. (Excerpt)

    This would mean a very different approach, as it is just like a flue or the common cold for infecting people.

    Has anything, any research found this not to be true.
    But research finds asymptomatic spread does not happen!

    …… asymptomatic spread.
    You might not feel sick.
    You might not ever have symptoms from SARS-CoV-2.
    Still, you could be an even worse super spreader without knowing it, infecting people all around you who will carry it to people who will die from the disease.
    This was also the moment when, subtly and imperceptibly, we were being asked to think of our fellow citizens not as human beings with dignity and rights but pathogen-carrying disease vectors.
    We had to be masked, all of us, because we are secretly filthy and unclean:
    we cannot be allowed to breath near others, so even with a mask we must stay 6 feet away. …..

    …… We went back to assuming that potentially everyone had a disease, enabling fellow citizens to become virtuous enforcers of mask wearing, staying home, and separating, screaming and yelling at others for failing to comply.
    The science on the question was unsettled, we were told, so let us go back to wrecking life as we once knew it. …..

    ….. In this case, the carrier of rationality is a gigantic study conducted in Wuhan, China, of 10 million people. The article appears in Nature, published November 20, 2020. ….
    https://www.aier.org/article/asymptomatic-spread-revisited/

    So the research proves the “super spreader” “asymptomatic spread” is untrue!

    Still the political class, politicians, bureau-expert-techno-crats with media, manouevre against nationalism, populism to maintain their very corrupt rule & feeding from the trough, over the people.

    Those people who forced medical trials on people over 70 years ago, then were put to trial and sentenced in the Nuremberg Trials.
    The UN, WHO, WEF also need to be put on trial , but the problem the law is changed from “natural law” to human law.

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  13. Oh dear, oh dear! Musician got all rapey in wellington! Half a dozen rapes and of to court!
    Wonder if he’s a labour party member or is he from some sand country!

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    • It’s a South African name. If he’s facing six charges of rape he’ll be in a power of shit if he can’t produce an up to date Labour Party membership card!

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    • He is most likely not a ‘musician’ as such.
      Rapping or Dj (‘Yo Yo I got da bling’ etc) is NOT music….

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  14. Alert Greta, we have a greenhouse gas infraction!

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/12/mt-ruapehu-volcanic-alert-raised-to-level-two-as-crater-lake-heats-to-43c.html

    The flow of gases and hydrothermal fluids through the lake shows the underlying vent area is open, he says.

    “Mt Ruapehu is an active volcano and has the potential to erupt with little or no warning when in a state of volcanic unrest,” Rosenberg explained.

    “Since 2007, crater lake temperature has exceeded 40C a number of times, without leading to an eruption. However the combination of the increased lake temperature, volcanic tremor and gas output have motivated the alert level change.”

    Volcanic alert level 2 is not a forecast of future volcanic activity, but indicates that the primary hazards of being nearby are steam discharge, volcanic gas, earthquakes, landslides and hydrothermal activity.

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    • Anyone doing any tourist operations in the Tongariro National Park should shut up shop now. Otherwise they’ll get their arses fined if it blows.

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      • They will get their arse fined even if it doesn’t erupt!
        Wokesafe will be chasing them for just been there, but if they pay enough koha, it will be all sweet and have maori writng on all their advertising!

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    • This would tie in nicely with the heory of increased activity. during low solar activity. I see there is a new lake up there? Anyway its due to errupt anyway.

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  15. Must get one of these for my collection:

    Man who shot at police in Northland gets seven years in prison:
    “But in a disputed facts hearing at the Whangārei District Court on Monday, Judge John McDonald decided it would not have been possible to fire the .303 sawn-off shotgun multiple times with one hand.”

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    • Is .303 a shotgun caliber?
      Many shotguns have tube magazines. A pump-action shotgun could be reloaded with one hand.
      Why do I get the feeling that the reporter who wrote the article knows little about firearms? (Or is it just me?)

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      • Shotgun gauges are most commonly 12, 20, 410 and 28. May be others. But .303 was the longtime rifle calibre that our troops took to battle. Still used in NZ as a sporting rifle, (most commonly in a “sporterised” version, with a lot of the wood removed), and in service rifle comps.

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    • You missed as well that got a 12 mth drivers license suspension!
      So if he escapes in the first year, he can’t drive. Just as well they don’t chase cars anymore!

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    • A good quote from the comments section:

      “Tyranny is not caused by tyrants, it’s caused by the obedient.”

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  16. New Zealander being being recognised for calling out the bullshit
    Well done Andrew Soper.

    The greatest con ever!

    Thanks to @AndrewSoper13 detective work, NZ runs it’s testing at 45 cycles!

    ‘when running PCR tests with 35 cycles or more – the accuracy dropped to 3%, meaning up to 97% of positive results could be false positives.’

    https://twitter.com/princesseffel/status/1340178646611312640

    A commenters response:
    Adam Whittaker
    @AdamWhi82776926
    Dec 20
    Replying to @princesseffel and @AndrewSoper13
    So in NZ the 2,110 ‘cases’ would really be 63, and the 25 ‘covid deaths’ would really be the death of 1 person after testing positive (most likely nothing to do with covid). Total hoax.

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    • This is Huuge!
      I expect it to be buried shorty…
      Can’t have anyone challenging the ‘Jacinda has saved us all’ narrative!

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    • This is done to prove how well the vaccines work, as the false positives will drop.

      ….. “If you have to go more than 40 cycles to amplify a single-copy gene, there is something seriously wrong with your PCR.” ….
      ….. Even Dr Anthony Fauci has publicly admitted that a cycle threshold over 35 is going to be detecting “dead nucleotides”, not a living virus. …..

      https://off-guardian.org/2020/12/18/who-finally-admits-pcr-tests-create-false-positives/

      Read what the authorities will do if the uptake of the vaccine is not going so well.

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  17. This is a very good read.
    Did you wonder why Jack Ma’s IPO disappeared?
    Are the internet companies of china too commercial and creating freedoms that the leadership doesn’t want?

    HONG KONG — When China’s business regulator accused Alibaba Group Holding of selling counterfeit goods over the internet in a report five years ago, the e-commerce giant did not hesitate to fight back.

    Alibaba openly challenged the investigation results, filing a formal complaint against a sub-department head responsible for the probe. Then, after a week-long public brawl, in which the company lambasted the State Administration for Industry and Commerce official as “irrational” and “biased,” the dispute ended with the regulator retracting the report.

    The timing was crucial. The feud had broken out just a few months after Alibaba’s high-profile 2014 debut on the New York Stock Exchange — the biggest initial public offering ever at the time — which symbolized the arrival of China’s Big Tech era. In those days, Beijing balked at standing in the way of its internet champions, whose services have grown to reach hundreds of millions of users and boosted China’s prestige internationally.

    But a half-decade later, the political winds have shifted. After years of bounding growth and shopping sprees for new assets, China’s biggest internet conglomerates now extend into most sectors of the economy, from transportation to finance. But while they used to enjoy a free pass on regulatory issues, they are now under unprecedented scrutiny, and the state is asserting its dominance once again.

    The often-outspoken Jack Ma, Alibaba’s founder, recently paid a high price for another public jab at regulators. Days after Ma likened traditional banks to pawnshops and labeled the existing financial regulatory framework an “old people’s club,” regulators abruptly suspended the roughly $34 billion IPO of Ant Group, an Alibaba spinoff in which Ma is a controlling shareholder.
    Tencent Holdings CEO Pony Ma and Alibaba Group Holding Executive Chairman Jack Ma attend an event marking the 40th anniversary of China’s reform and opening up at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing. © Reuters

    Had the listing not been halted, it would have set a fresh record as the world’s largest. The decision to prevent that came from the highest level possible in China: As Nikkei Asia previously reported, the order to delay and likely cancel the IPO came from Xi Jinping, China’s president.

    A month later, Daniel Zhang, Ma’s successor as Alibaba CEO and chairman, made a contrite climbdown. He pledged loyalty to the authorities on behalf of the group in a government-led forum in Zhejiang. In humble tones, Zhang called the new guidelines on internet companies “timely and necessary.” He also stressed the importance of government support in the company’s development.

    “As part of China’s digital economy, we are both a constructor and a beneficiary,” Zhang, a former accountant, said. “We are very grateful for this era.”

    China is clearly no stranger to meddling with the internet. The so-called Great Firewall, for example, blocks many foreign websites. But the hammer blow dealt to the Ant IPO signaled that a new era in regulation is nigh.

    This was further underlined on Nov. 10, when China’s anti-monopoly regulator, the State Administration for Market Regulation, put out a 22-page document of draft guidelines aimed at preventing large internet platforms from blocking competition. Since then, the share prices of Alibaba, Tencent, Meituan and JD.com have dropped between 9% and 17%.

    The next move came on Dec.14, when SAMR fined Tencent Holdings 500,000 yuan (around $76,000). It alleged that the company failed to seek regulatory approval when subsidiary China Literature acquired Chinese media and entertainment company New Classics Media in 2018. Alibaba was fined the same amount in connection with its investments in Intime Retail, a department store chain, between 2014 to 2018.

    It has long been a requirement to report such deals. But regulators have declined to enforce it, an apparent effort not to obstruct the internet economy’s growth.

    That mindset has changed: According to a revision to the current antimonopoly law, maximum fines could soon add up to 10% of the companies’ revenue, a change expected to take effect next year. That could come to billions of dollars, based on last year’s earnings.

    The lesson, according to Victor Shih, associate professor at the University of California, San Diego, is that China’s internet groups cannot count on government forbearance anymore. “Even with all the things that make China look really good, the Chinese government can put a stop to it if it perceives that private entrepreneurs are not toeing the line of the party,” he said.

    Shih said the Chinese leadership has longstanding concerns about the Big Tech companies, and now the regulator has decided to “flex its muscle” in a sweeping crackdown on internet portals to demonstrate “who is in charge in China.”

    Over the course of last month, a number of different bodies have rolled out new rules aimed at regulating the conduct of internet companies in different sectors, such as finance and media. Anti-competitive practices, overmarketing on live streaming platforms and illegal personal data collection of mobile apps are just a few of the practices targeted by the new rules.

    “For large internet platforms, what they are facing now is a multidimensional regulatory tightening,” said Scott Yu, a Beijing-based lawyer who specializes in antitrust matters with Chinese law firm Zhong Lun.
    China’s President Xi Jinping appears on a screen in front of logos of China’s leading internet companies Tencent, Baidu and Alibaba during the fourth World Internet Conference in Wuzhen, Zhejiang Province on Dec. 4, 2017. © Reuters

    In antitrust enforcement in China, the government has often been uniquely tolerant of monopolies, which dominate industries from shipbuilding to telecoms. Previously, lax enforcement is seen as an expression of the Communist Party’s conventional wisdom: Domestically, monopolies are more manageable than a messily competitive market, and internationally, they are more competitive. But the vertiginous rise of China’s Big Tech companies has clearly spooked the government and triggered a rethink of its monopoly-friendly attitudes.

    Zhu Ning, professor of finance and deputy dean at the Shanghai Advanced Institute of Finance, said many internet companies have expanded rapidly, supported by massive capital. Importantly, their influence has grown to an extent that they can sway government policy. “This concerns policymakers very much,” he said.

    Long-established companies Alibaba, Tencent, and Baidu, known collectively as BAT, have accumulated over one billion users each and expanded aggressively into new businesses partly by buying startups. Internet newcomers Pinduoduo (e-commerce), Meituan (food delivery), JD.com (e-commerce), Didi Chuxing (ride-hailing), and Bytedance (short videos) have largely followed in their footsteps. For example, Didi is now providing cloud services to corporations, and Meituan in 2018 bought the bicycle-sharing app Mobike.

    “The winners in the internet economy not only dominate their own field, but they can also easily expand their reach into other areas and dominate more industries by leveraging consumer data,” said Yu.

    The proposed antitrust guidelines will give Chinese law enforcement bodies more space for discretion in determining abuse by companies. While some countries define monopolistic behavior by market share, for example, China’s new guidelines for internet companies are more flexible. Regulators only need to prove that their conduct has hindered consumer interests to come in for enforcement.
    A Meituan worker in Beijing scans his face on the company app before starting work. Tech newcomers like Meituan have followed the expansion playbook of the established giants, aggressively buying up smaller companies. © Reuters

    For example, an e-commerce company with a large amount of purchasing data could conceivably manipulate the logistics industry by sharing the latest information on consumer demand with select operators to help them better organize routes and warehouses. Those who are not part of its information-sharing network, however, would be put at a disadvantage.

    According to the 22-page consultation document — published one day ahead of Alibaba’s blockbuster annual Singles Day shopping event in November — practices such as selling goods below cost, price discrimination based on customer data analytics, and exclusive sales agreements would also be in violation of the proposed regulations.

    Positive energy

    One of the primary concerns to the Communist Party is that internet monopolies now host a vast amount of media that is difficult to censor. These range from social media, news aggregation, livestreaming, and short video, and accounted for more than half of the time Chinese internet users spent online, according to a survey conducted by the China Internet Network Information Center in April.

    “The influence of some internet companies reaches as far as trying to manipulate social attitudes and media reporting. This steps into sensitive areas never touched by Chinese private companies,” Zhu Ning said.
    Beauty blogger Austin Li Jiaqi, who goes by the screen name “lipstick brother,” applies makeup while live-streaming on the e-commerce platform Taobao on Oct. 26, 2018, in Shanghai. © Getty Images

    Their influence grew even further during the pandemic, as people spend more time online. China’s internet users spent an average of 30.8 hours per week online as of March, up from 27.6 hours two years ago, the survey shows.

    But unlike traditional media outlets with editorial control, new platforms generate a large amount of AI-tailored content for each user. Media regulators will have a harder time exercising control over the sharing of news and the formation of public opinion.

    Such concerns prompted the National Radio and Television Administration, China’s media watchdog, to significantly tighten the rules for online streaming platforms in late November. It ordered broadcasters and their gift-givers — those who demonstrate approval by giving virtual gifts — to register real names and company affiliations, to hire more censors, and to livestream more programs that spread “positive energy.”

    Financial services is another area of contention, as Jack Ma’s ill-fated speech clearly showed. Until recently, internet companies were able to offer banking services on the cheap, backed by a fraction of the capital and governed by far fewer rules than retail banks. Newcomers insisted that their big-data technology would insure against the systemic risk to the financial sector. But their sprawling reach through the economy is now adding to the concerns of China’s banking regulator.

    Guo Shuqing, chairman of the China Banking and Insurance Regulatory Commission, warned during a forum on Dec. 8 that some tech companies are becoming “too big to fail,” as the micropayment market they dominate involves substantial public interest.

    “The fintech industry leads to many new phenomena and problems. … It is necessary to … take timely and targeted measures to prevent new systemic risks,” he said.

    Most internet companies consider financial services to be a low hanging fruit that can generate big profits. Even Didi, known for its ride-hailing mobile app, and Sina, known for microblogging platform Weibo, have started to provide online loans.

    Alipay, the payment app of Alibaba, had more than 700 million monthly active users as of June, while Tencent’s WeChat Pay had more than 800 million MAU in 2019. Tencent said about 79.4% of small to mid-merchants in China were using its payment services for businesses as of January 2020.

    However, Guo’s speech is widely seen as a signal for more regulatory tightening in the fintech industry.

    Regulators tend to be cautious as financial risks spread fast to other industries, said Zhu Wuxiang, a professor at Tsinghua University’s School of Economics and Management, though he noted the lower deposit ratio and higher leverage of online loan providers do not necessarily mean bigger default risks. Instead, Zhu said the Big Tech companies are more capable of giving an accurate assessment of a person’s credit condition by cross-checking user information collected from different digital portals compared to the traditional banks.

    However, “from the government’s point of view, it can’t tell the risks clearly at the moment,” he said.

    Wild West

    In China, a formerly totalitarian state where mass surveillance is still a fact of life, one could be forgiven for thinking that data privacy is not a huge priority.

    It’s surprising, then, that another priority for the government is the sanctity of personal data. A draft version of the nation’s first designated personal-data protection law was published in October and is undergoing public consultation. In further draft guidelines in December, China’s internet regulator, the Cyberspace Administration, also gave detailed instructions on what can be considered “required personal information for operations” for 38 types of apps.

    “Traditionally, the Chinese app development space has approached user-data collection from the perspective [of]: I’m going to get everything I might need later,” said Kendra Schaefer, head of tech advisory practice at Beijing-based consultancy Trivium. This contrasts with Western countries, where regulators require companies to collect only the data necessary for their operations, she said. But data collection in China has not been properly regulated because there is no regulation to follow, and the lack of rules has led to an anarchic internet sector rife with abuses.
    Customers wait near Alipay and WeChat QR payment codes at a market in Beijing. Alibaba had more than 700 million monthly active users as of June, while Tencent’s WeChat Pay had more than 800 million in 2019. © AFP/Jiji

    China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology has, since last year, reported dozens of mobile applications for their practices including illegally collecting and using user information, sharing personal data with third parties without permission, and seeking excessive access authorization to private information. Tencent, Sina, Baidu, Huawei Technologies and Xiaomi were among the developers behind the problematic apps.

    A Nanjing-based software engineer who developed more than 20 mobile apps told Nikkei Asia that many applications were designed to grab as much personal data as possible from one’s smartphone without properly informing the user.

    In some cases, programs will order apps to secretly turn on the microphone of the user and record daily conversations. The system will then use AI tools to analyze chat contents, often by capturing keywords, and make the app push relevant products or contents for the user, the 30-year-old engineer said, who only gave his last name as Wang. Some apps would also collect user’s real-time location information when users are not using the app, he added.

    “These are very easy to achieve through existing technologies,” Wang said. Big companies with many apps under their umbrellas often enjoy a disproportionate advantage, he said, as user data is often shared among these apps and the new products they developed are often more competitive thanks to the better market analysis backed by big data.

    However, Wang said the internet companies are now facing more restrictions on app designs. In recent years, smartphones have been upgrading their operating systems with more personal data protection measures, and Chinese regulators have also imposed more checks on those same apps.
    A screen shows the value of goods being transacted during Alibaba Group’s Singles’ Day global shopping festival at a media center in Hangzhou, Zhejiang province, China November 11, 2020. © Reuters

    Samuel Yang, a lawyer specializing in personal privacy protection and cybersecurity at An Jie, a Beijing law firm, believes the pending legislation would have a big impact on the internet companies’ business.

    “There is no doubt that the internet companies will be burdened with more compliance requirements,” Yang said. But he believes the government will still try to strike a balance between economic growth and personal information protection.

    Carlton Lai, an analyst with Daiwa Capital Markets, believes limiting internet companies’ data collection will hurt their competitiveness. Many rely on statistics from various digital channels to track ever-evolving user trends and business opportunities.

    “Companies need to develop new businesses to keep up growth. Who knows when people will get bored of short videos?” he said.

    Thin porridge

    China’s new digital economy has created millions of new jobs, from software engineers to express delivery couriers. But the internet industry’s rapid evolution has also increased the risk of social disturbances, another area of concern for the CCP.

    Experts say the internet companies’ pursuit of efficiency is not always in line with Beijing’s political agenda, where stability comes first.

    More than 15 million users of the bike-sharing app Ofo, for example, failed to get their deposit money back after the troubled startup suffered a cash crunch in late 2018. Angry tenants at Chinese online apartment rental platform Danke Apartment clashed with unpaid landlords over forced eviction, after the company failed to pay rents on tenants’ behalf.
    A dog walks past piled-up bicycles of bike-sharing company Ofo in Kunming, Yunnan Province on Nov. 13, 2018. © Reuters

    Meanwhile, tens of millions of Chinese investors lost their savings during the collapse of peer-to-peer lending schemes that mushroomed a few years ago. The most infamous case was the 2016 collapse of online lender Ezubo, in which investors lost 50 billion yuan ($7.5 billion). The platform’s two founders were sentenced to life in prison.

    These bitter episodes are a constant reminder for the top leadership in China that the internet companies can cause immense trouble, and at a huge scale, if they are not kept in check.

    “The Internet, as a tool, redistributes the resources and wealth in the real economy. It does not create. It disrupts,” Andy Xie, an independent economist in Shanghai and former head of Morgan Stanley’s Asia-Pacific economics team put it bluntly.

    “In China, anything that works to the disadvantage of the party’s rule will inevitably be weakened,” Xie said.

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/The-Big-Story/China-rethinks-the-Jack-Ma-model

    very enlightening.

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  18. Hypocrisy much…
    Even the leftie media are starting to see through the thin veil of lies.

    Birx travels, family visits highlight pandemic safety perils

    For many Americans that guidance has been difficult to abide, including for Birx herself.

    The day after Thanksgiving, she traveled to one of her vacation properties on Fenwick Island in Delaware. She was accompanied by three generations of her family from two households. Birx, her husband Paige Reffe, a daughter, son-in-law and two young grandchildren were present.

    “To me this disqualifies her from any future government health position,” said Dr. Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at the Georgetown Center for Global Health Science and Security. “It’s a terrible message for someone in public health to be sending to the American people.”

    https://apnews.com/article/travel-pandemics-only-on-ap-delaware-thanksgiving-52810c22488fff7e6bb70746bdc9bc61

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  19. Kea

    I’ve read the link you provided in your 5.27pm https://fds.org.nz/maori-and-alcohol-a-history-book/ It’s well written, without bias & explores the subject from all angles.

    In some ways it reinforces my view that alcohol doesn’t discriminate much between races when it doles out its misery. Alan Duff described instances of wasted resources, familial violence & child neglect as mentioned in the report. They are not confined to Maori though as a tribal people they were not served well by the drift to the cities started in the 1950s.

    Alcohol seduces & addicts in two ways. There’s a physical aspect which is relatively easy to overcome but to stay dry one has to completely forgo social interactions with other pissheads. If your family & friends spend their lives half fried you’re up against it.

    As an aside I wonder how the effects of meth on society will be regarded next century.

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    • Agree on all points. Note Maori were more sober and disciplined than the settlers, with higher literacy. Industrious, adaptable and hard working.

      Booze turned them into “wretched shrunken creatures”

      Meth won’t even be a side note compared to alcohol.

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  20. ‘Incredibly rare’: New Zealand set for once-in-a-lifetime celestial event

    New Zealand stargazers are set to witness a once-in-a-lifetime celestial event.

    It has been hundreds of years since Jupiter and Saturn appeared as close together as they are now – as viewed from Earth – and it will be a long time before it happens again.

    The phenomenon is known by some as the “Bethlehem Star”.

    Otago Museum director and astronomer Dr Ian Griffin told Morning Report that the planets Jupiter and Saturn would get remarkably close over the next couple of nights.

    “They are going to be so close together, you won’t be able to separate them … you’ll need binoculars and a telescope to split them, and this is something called a conjunction.”

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/incredibly-rare-new-zealand-set-for-once-in-a-lifetime-celestial-event/QCX6LYX75NKB7ETPD3TYJSJYYQ/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0LXT6XLV6j7dIAKyihfxUVzEymsUpVla_x_2br_c0pYpVPPd08494K94U#Echobox=1608512563

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new-zealand-did-you-spot-it-incredibly-rare-celestial-event-happening-tonight/22S7S2ROABGWKTF6CVQWCMRKYU/

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  21. How Belarus Exposes The Lockdown Lie
    Most European governments instituted the shutdown of economies, restrictions on freedom of movement and other policies known as lockdown. This was allegedly in response to the spread of Sars-Cov-2, a dangerous respiratory virus that originated in Wuhan, China.
    Few countries rejected this approach; Sweden is the most well known of these. However, a more interesting case of dissent from the official narrative is Belarus and its leader Aleksandr Lukashenka.
    This article will outline Lukashenka’s approach to the alleged pandemic, followed by an analysis of death figures and how the Belarussian case exposes the lies of lockdown advocates.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/how-belarus-exposes-lockdown-lie

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  22. About bloody time.

    Police Finally Swarm Filthy Reincarnated Autonomous Zone in Seattle, It Doesn’t End Well for Antifa

    The police were not messing around today. They vastly outnumbered the Antifa folks and chased them down the street, hitting them with pepper balls and ultimately arresting 21 of them over the course of the cleanup, which is a significant number of the crew that they had there.

    https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/12/18/296959-n296959

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