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  1. You may find the site doing strange things over the next few days. The changes are being made to increase the speed of upload etc.

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  2. Cindy says it is not unusual for union members to be paid 3 months before non-union members when she was discussing the teachers’ union settlement. She said if anyone is concerned it will only be a few individuals and she hasn’t received any complaints. The union members are also to receive a $1500 payment.

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    • From that you can take she doesn’t give a shit about non-union teachers. Being non liarbour voters, why would they complain to her.

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    • Well ain’t that a lil ole bundle of mixed messages right there from our spaniel-haired leader.
      Pay equity demands that everyone is paid the same for doing the same work. Remember how that used to be an important principle?
      If it doesn’t matter that only a few individuals are concerned, why do we have to provide disabled access to buildings, or be sensitive to LGBTQkhgkutdyrsiytdk issues when so few are affected by them?
      And if anyone complained would the earnest one halt the settlement? or engage the’Stuff solution’ to the communication – comment deleted?

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    • Non union members will save at least that 1500 by not being in their poxy union, i am extremely proud of our lads 32 employes not one union member and they get better pay rises every year and other benefits that they wouldn’t under a union banner

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    • Socialist Cindy’s bestie is a murderer – how does this fit with “Kindness”

      French activists being murdered by the Macron regime.

      This is the caring, kindness that socialist Cindy longs for as delivered by her friend President Macron of France. She stands shoulder to shoulder with an increasingly dictatorial petit homme like Macron and says not a word in condemnation of the weekly violence.

      This is a very handy window into our future if the Mad Queen’s reign continues.

      But oh yes – she thinks “Orange Man Bad” and wears a headscarf to sympathise with a religion that throws gay people off tall buildings as a show of diversidy and tolerance.

      Will socialist Soimon ask the PM to condemn the police state that socialist Cindy’s friend Macron is establishing in France? I think he won’t.

      We’re seeing a new fascism rising in Europe, can the UK escape before Merkel gets her wish for a grand EU army that she can use to suppress all that nasty democracy that gets in the way of the 4th Reich.

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      • Holy shit thats disturbing only a smidge more disturbing than the comment in black 5 down though, well said as always DP Cindy is already in the process of selling our country out to her globalist masters and she cares not one bit as she sold her sold long before that for the wet dream of a socialist paradise and with all wannabe dictators the stupid bint hasnt yet realised most of us dont want to be any fkn where near her moist knickers as she dreams of gulags, suppression of free speech and how much better off we would all be with a few hugs cos thats so bloody handy when folks are trying to pay their mortgage or feed their kids

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        • I was listening to Jordan Peterson talking to Joe Rogan. JP said the people who choose judges who will be appointed to the bench in Canada first have to include on their application their personal diversity and undergo diversity training before gaining the job to appoint judges.

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      • For the BBC to put a “D notice” a government edict, a legal gagging order.
        Thanks Garbageman, as that 5th comment down in black explains it all.

        I guess NZ is still in practice, as the gagging order on the video and the manifesto.
        Soon we will have an official form of gagging order, a protocol like “Code red” or such.

        A police death squad. Not even attempting to arrest.
        There is debate whether he survived or not, or just what he was about.
        Still it shows the “storm troopers” concept of justice and serving and protecting, that is for their masters.

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    • I am currently looking at the legality of this. I do believe this could get interesting… I don’t begrudge the $1500, just the deferred increase.

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  3. It is just churlish not paying non-members for 3 months. This has been resolved in the past by employers insisting on paying non-members at the same time, but teachers’ are paid by the state so the union flunkeys have their stomping boots on, supported by the CoL.

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    • Actually its an act of discrimination and one would think also actionable in the employment court.
      We are not allowed to discriminate against Muslims nor Maori nor anyone else but apparently it is now OK to do so against employees of the same organization.

      From the party that spent years and years remonstrating against discrimination.

      This from a OM. who said she wants fairness.

      Snarky, lieing untrustworthy and not suitable as a PM.

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      • Does the union consider that those non-unionised teachers, who held the system together while they were striking, were scabs?

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        • Non-unionist membership in teaching is a minority group. Shouldn’t being a minority group under the CoL’s socialist diversidy policy take priority over the majority? Treating them differently from the dominant group is detrimental to their “wellbeing” Cindy! ?

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          • They are pushed into joining the unions at teacher’s college at least in Wellington. I should probably say “encouraged” to join.

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      • If only we had something like a Human Rights Commission and a Bill of Rights that expressly forbade discriminating against people because of their political affiliations (like paying dirty unionists ahead of non-unionists).

        This (oh if only we had one) august body could step in and use their ability to investigate and force socialist Cindy to be treat all citizens equally.

        Maybe Seymour’s bill needs to be fast-tracked. (Waves at pig flying past window).

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        • Not wanting to be part of the union doesn’t necessarily mean that it is on political lines.

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          • Labour is funded by the unions. Non-union teachers don’t fund the Labour party. Ergo they don’t get the settlement until 3 months later – it’s actually harder to implement a two stage payroll exercise than it is to do pay all teachers all at the same time.

            Seems like it’s not hard to relate this as punishment for not being part of the union.

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    • Note the veiled commentary from Jacinda Ardern at the emd about “standards”. Like she or any of her senior team has standards or accountability. What a horrible human being she is.

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      • Jacinda might want to keep her enormous toothy mouth shut! Derek Handley, Karel Sroubek,the latest COI etc etc

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      • Perhaps we should refer to her as the right horrible ardern – lower case to show our contempt of her and her coven of vipers.

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        • She’s left wing, so it’s more appropriate for her to known as the Left Dishonourable Jacinda Ardern.

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      • Nice to see JK on the AMShow this morning. No wonder Simon is struggling to get a foothold as leader, hard to fill the shoes when following the easy charm of John.

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        • Simon & Co are now attacking Seymour. Stupid pratts. They don’t deserve to be elected to govern.
          In terms of my priorities, tax relief for middle New Zealanders (people earning $70,000 – $80,000 a year) is really important and if I have the economic circumstances, I’d want to deliver on that,” he told reporters on Tuesday.

          Asked if he was willing to consider the tax in any coalition deal, Bridges said his position was a progressive tax because New Zealanders were currently being hit with too much tax.

          National finance spokeswoman Amy Adams said the flat tax proposal was bold because ACT was a party who would never have to face the reality of putting it into play.

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/113574410/national-leader-simon-bridges-opposed-to-act-flat-tax-policy

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          • Does anyone else get the feeling the Nats are preparing to toss ACT and Seymour onto the scrap heap. ? They must be pissed at all the comments in support of ACT. If they are, then they are scum. It’s in their and the countries best interest that they do the same deal over Epsom as in the past.
            One can only hope that Act get a few extra seats next time and really push the Nats back to the right. I guess time will tell.

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            • That’d be nice (more seats and push Nats to the right).

              To be fair to National, I don’t recall them ever being in favour of a flat tax.

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          • ACT and Seymour have been vocally in the right place in 2019.
            Seymour has copped a lot of crap for this.
            Yesterday I made my first ever political donation …to ACT.
            This is the first time I have seen someone stand up – on more than one occasion -for OUR rights.

            The flat tax is an interesting idea and one that was a Roger Douglas proposal in 1987.
            Fat guts Lange squashed it but at 24 stone he squashed a lot of things.

            I’m not sure how the numbers would work but flat income tax of 17.5%; company tax of 17.5%; and GST on all items at 17.5 % sounds like a good level.
            An alternative idea is a cap on paying income tax at a certain level such as $250,000 pa.
            At that point you have contributed to the country. When is enough, enough?
            This is effectively done for Acc Comp contributions.
            This is far more realistic than the absurd idea of $20,000 tax free threshold that the Colon party had in 2014.

            I’m in the Epsom electorate. I won’t vote for Goldsmith. He is a bit weird.
            The irony is he has written biographies on two recent leaders of ACT- Banks and Brash.

            School Marm, Amy Adams should go back to her PTA; and wee Soyman will never be PM of NZ.

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            • Banks and Brash were never ACT believers. Brash is a right-wing Nat and Banks? well, I’ll leave you to decide but personally never liked the man.

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    • Apparently, his wife was racking up her husbands bank expense account to pay for limousine use. Duncan Garner was informed by someone in the know.

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  4. Watch the strikes continue with weak-kneed Hipkins in charge. Unions are super emboldened right now. Wait till we have to pick up the tab sigh…

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    • I believe they tried but each “new” teacher had to do a year, unfunded, at training college to ensure they were not “Too Good” and to get the kapa haka badge.

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    • The ever generous tax payer is why. The leftover militant unions in NZ are all involved with the public sector.

      In the case of the teachers they’ll go “But think of the children!” As if the PPTA or NZEI think much of NZ children…except as human shields.

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    • The Teachers’ union would circle the wagons. Migrants are needed in the kiwifruit orchards because “Shane’s nephs” are still not off their fat, lazy, welfare-addicted asses on that couch.

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      • Timaru’s unemployment down to 2% and they are looking for NZ’ers to fill positions at the various industries down there. I guess the ‘nephs’ would find it even harder to get off the couch in the cold of a southern winter.

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    • Given the bank’s performance since he has been in charge he seems to have been thrown under a steam roller for not much. Is there more to the story?

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  5. It’s not that I think for one second the teachers and care workers don’t deserve more $$$, but unions are naturally greedy, and the question needs to be asked what can we afford? I’m 100% for performance based pay. If you suck, good-bye. If you’re good, job security and a pay rise for you. Isn’t that the way it’s supposed to be? Naive me!

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    • I don’t believe a single Govt commitment to “zero carbon by 2030”, or “ban this by 2040” etc as it’s all shite. Vote-grabbing for the lowest common denominator, and getting on the trendy climate change train to nowhere. Reality will win the day 🙂 petrol and diesel are here to stay for a long, long time whether the world’s leftists like it or not.

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      • Just like the 2025 smoking ban here and the carbon neutral shit theyre all just nice words designed to trick the gullible and uneducated into voting for them when they can always change the details later. By gullible and uneducated I mean Greens and Labour voters for the most part.

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  6. A woman and a baby come into the doctor’s office. She is taken into an examining room and waits for the doctor. After arriving there, the doctor examines the baby, and finds him not gaining much weight and asks the woman, “Is he breast fed or on the bottle?”

    “Oh … he is breast fed!”, replied the woman.

    “Well then, strip down to your waist,” orders the doctor.

    She takes off her top and bra and sits on the examining table. The doc starts pressing, kneading and pinching both breasts for a while in a very detailed and thorough examination.

    The doc motions to her to get dressed, then the doctor says: “No wonder this baby is so hungry. You don’t have any milk!”

    The woman with a wry grin on her face responds: “Well of course I don’t.” “I’m his aunt – but I’m sure glad I brought him in!”

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  7. I haven’t posted my statistics gathering for Have Your Say for a while. I thought I’d update them. The Median and Percentile figures are continuous.

    Mean 94.04
    Standard Deviation 37.08
    Median 90.00
    25th Percentile 69.00
    75th Percentile 115.75

    The most popular day for posting is Thursday with a mean of 108.6. However the standard deviation is 40.2, so I wouldn’t read too much into it.

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    • I’m sorry but can you translate that for me, I’m deaf in one ear and can’t hear much out of the other!

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      • I’m not sure what to say to that. The mean is often incorrectly called the average. This is where you sum the data and divide by the number of entries. As of yesterday there were 6583 total comments in all the Have Your Say threads (except this one). There have been 70 days worth, so 6583 / 70.

        Is this the type of breakdown you’re after?

        Admittedly, I haven’t bothered with a trend line mostly because it’s better as a graphic. (It’s going up though).

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  8. I heard on Hoking this morning that Chlöe Swarbrick is going high schools and preaching to year 13 students the benefits of legalizing recreational cannabis.

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      • I’d love some 68% THC lollies, but I’m an adult and would enjoy the stuff at home. Legal weed will have its consequences- the Colorado statistics don’t look too good.

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      • … “Some physicians liken the states’ actions to a public health experiment, one that supports the cannabis industry’s interests while ignoring the implications for adolescents’ health.

        “I hope we don’t lose a generation of people before we become clear we need to protect our kids’ brains,” said Leslie Walker- Harding, an adolescent medicine specialist who chairs the pediatrics department at Seattle Children’s Hospital. It also is seeing more teens with marijuana-related symptoms.”…

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    • That is disgusting if true, but why anyway, they can’t vote in the referendum, hopefully, parents will get very upset about that. Does Chloe need to be drug tested?

      Does our parliament have a drug testing policy?

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      • Year 13 students may be 18 and certainly 17. Most of the year 13 student will be 18 as election time in 2020.

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        • Yes, sorry I misread that all I saw was the 13. It doesn’t make it any less reprehensible but more logical lol.

          I assume she is prompting them to enrol to vote first, we are definitely in election mode. I still think that Simeon Browne should be providing the counter-narrative.

          They may well know each other from doing law. Swarbrick was born in Auckland in 1994, and went to Epsom Girls’ Grammar School. She entered the University of Auckland at age 17, and graduated with a Bachelor of Laws and a Bachelor of Arts in Philosophy.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chl%C3%B6e_Swarbrick

          If you look at the portfolios that Chloe is associated with there would seem to be some conflicting responsibilities.
          Swarbrick is Green Party Spokesperson for Mental Health, Drug Law Reform, Education, Arts and Heritage, Tertiary Education, Small Business, Broadcasting, Youth and Local Government.

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      • Best no go there, that would have to include alcohol. and half the parliament would fail that test. The drunken dwarf would need to go to rehab if he was tested.

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    • She was on TV the other day bleating that ‘Cannabis is a harmless drug’
      If she does that at Schools it will be fucking irresponsible and disgraceful….

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      • If you can tolerate my little story, I’ll speak from experience:

        Me and my friends, sometimes with our own parents looking the other way, had tried pot, cocaine, meth, acid, heroin, you name it by the time we were 14. Pot was always number one. It was a very middle to upper middle class white town, by the way. This went on for years, and there were casualties. By our early twenties many were in rehab, or would spend their entire paycheck on coke. It wasn’t just for fun anymore. Somehow I made it through in one piece.

        It’s a gamble. I could have ended up a complete loser!

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    • Hey Chloe while you’re there, might as well teach ’em how to put a condom on a fake dick with your teeth? Sex ed and all that.

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  9. I know this was brought up late yesterday in the Have Your Say but it is worth mentioning again to witness the corruption from environ-mentalists.

    “Cats not fishing nets biggest threat to dolphins says proposed plan”

    Buried in the article was this quote:

    But a dolphin expert, professor Liz Slooten, was surprised the theory that cats posed a greater risk to dolphins than fishing nets, had even seen the light of day, and described it as a nonsense.

    She said DOC and Fisheries NZ were warned by a panel of experts ahead of the release of their proposed plan that the danger posed by toxoplasmosis from cat faeces was tenuous at best.

    One of the most obvious points is if toxoplasmosis was so problematic in NZ waterways, the rate of congenital toxoplasmosis would be significantly higher.

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    • It’s not Socialism that’s at fault here… Twitford is just not implementing it “correctly”, there needs to be some re-education camps opened up for all of us confused and ignorant civilians….then all will be well.

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  10. DPF’s favourite to lead the Tory party – was a Labour party member

    This explains a lot about why DPF is a fanboi for Rory Stewart to head the Tory party in the UK.

    It would be fascinating to know how many of the current National party were in the Labour party in their earlier days before they decided there were better career opportunities if they joined Labour Lite? Plenty of the old guard are pretty left wing and to me it looks like Mrs Slocombe Nikki Kaye, Soimon, Amy, Todd McClay, Woodhouse, Dowie, Carter, Tolley, Barry and a whole lot of others all seem to be more suited to being on the left of the aisle. Cuckservatives the lot of them.

    Still the long march through the institutions has been a very successful strategy for the nihilistic left, why not occupy the enemy’s ranks (after all … if you can’t beat ’em….)

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  11. A lot of people are mentioning Nationals favourite pollster DPF in comments so I thought I would post about my thoughts on the recent changes:

    Once DPF became a father and partner his outlook gradually started changing from being happy go lucky, devil may care to concern over his immediate families future, as most people do. But instead of wanting to protect the way of life he enjoyed so his children can enjoy the same benefits, he went full on fucking stupid over a few topics, namely;

    Trump. I have never seen someone so fucking blind to whats actually happening around him and the need of America to protect itself from UN decrees, which would completely destroy the USA with untrammeled immigration from shithole countries. Its happened to Europe and America MUST PROTECT HER BORDERS.

    Labour. Secretly DPF admires them. He loves the authoritarianism of the Labour Party, and sees nothing wrong with Jacinda Ardern S.L.G. He’s also a huge Clinton fan despite her being a criminal and one of Americas most hated women who protects rapists and laughs at sexual assault victims. (In my opinion this alone should negate him from ever working in a professional capacity as a pollster as it shows his judgement is severely lacking)

    Guns. Despite all data and common sense showing that the majority of gun crimes are committed by criminals with illegal guns and no license, DPF supports disarming the law abiding populace because of feelz. More people died last year from stabbings than gun crime so we are probably one step away from Labour doing a full on England and banning kitchen knives.

    Free Speech. While I admire what DPF was doing as a labour of love, Tarrants actions completely destroyed any impartiality he may have had to let conversation flow freely. Instead he turned his blog into another version of the Standard where only approved thoughts and topics can be talked about. Mentioning that Tarrant was not even a New Zealander and had left leanings, was admiring of the Israelis and described himself as an “eco-fascist” got your comments edited or deleted.

    There’s plenty more I have thought about but this post is getting long, so I would like to just give my thanks to the Editor of this blog for making it available, and especially the perhaps 50% of commentators who felt the same and migrated (legally of course) to carry on talking about things that concern us.

    Cheers, BallSack.

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    • More people died last year from stabbings than gun crime so we are probably one step away from Labour doing a full on England and banning kitchen knives.

      Special knives now, courtesy of the police. 🙂
      Just to be sure they have no magazines, or semi automatic.

      https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/nottingham-news/police-handing-out-blunt-knives-2964343

      Get you application in quick, as there is a limited number of these free knife specials.
      All in the name of;- helping you feelz safe.

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      • I could sharpen that rounded tip to a lethal weapon in about 3 minutes. What f*cking morons. Bring back GUNS ffs England! Let your new conquerors off each other with dignity. Smith & Wesson is a far more honourable death, and quicker too.

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      • That has got to be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard of from Mr. Plod! And that includes being proud of confiscating a soup spoon as a ‘dangerous weapon’ (London’s Regent Park Police).

        I still remember using a blunt steel knife in so-called self defence training where the other guy messed up and I punctured his hand. Sheesh.

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        • Plod arrests people for word crimes involving gender pronouns and not owning a TV license, while ignoring Muslim rape gangs that operate with impunity. England is a fucking joke.

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          • Sure sounds that way…what about things like hammers, sports equipment like cricket bats and hockey sticks, garden tools, what’s next?

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          • Plod arrests people for word crimes involving gender pronouns and not owning a TV license, while ignoring Muslim rape gangs that operate with impunity. England is a fucking joke.

            That’s more about being corrupt than dumb. They didn’t go after Muslim rape gangs for fear of being labelled by the media as ‘racist’ for example. As such, I wouldn’t call the police dumb. Corrupt for being fearful of the media yes, but not dumb.

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    • Yes, I gradually came to the conclusion that DF is a liberal with left wing tendancies, so I was pleased to be told about this site.
      I hardly ever visit Kiwiblog now.

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    • I guess DPF is not unlike many of our politicians they throw shit at each other on a regular basis but you would be surprised at how many are actually good friends outside of govt, i can just imagine a bunch of them sitting around DPF tut tutting at his blog suggesting ways to “improve” it which is a real shame as there are still a couple of great commentators worth spending some time there reading , now the big question Agentballsack is how do we get them to forgo a longtime habit and comment more over here

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      • Some of them I would prefer didn’t come here, there was a commenter here a few weeks back “Fairydust” and whether or not it was a joke account, the comments reminded me too much of Mike and Stephie and I tended to avoid threads they commented in. Which since they mostly commented in HYS meant I missed some interesting conversation from the regulars here.

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    • Well said BS but thanks must go to DPF. If he hadn’t pissed me off with his stooopid moderation, YSB would not be here.
      I never liked his anti Trump, pro Obama/killlary stance and his tolerance of stoooopidboy with his constant stalking of Maggy.
      YSB is here for the long term.

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      • Thank god you did. Despite what the mass media shriek at us constantly, I don’t believe any of us are alt-right (one of stupidboys favourite parrot lines) or that indeed any of us here are Nazis. Though the demonizing of a certain section of our society (mainly the providers of the succour that our less fortunate brethren live off) could very well cause a far right uprising as we are seeing in other countries. Cheers mate. I will be a long term visitor.

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        • Build it and they will come! and they certa8nly are coming. I was out for the day and I see 150 comments, when I get back. Haven’t you lot done well!

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    • Well said Agent.
      I noted a similar timeline.
      I think the Farrar baby event was a coincidence of timing.
      Sorry, my reply is a bit long at 600 words.

      My theory- happy to be challenged- is that a large part of the purpose of KB in the last 10 years was to get free ideas from people. They allowed free posting so that National policy people could pick up on trends and test the mood.
      We know they formulated (re)action around Farrar’s polling and I suspect the KB site was another place to pick up ideas/trends .

      The blog site went downhill last year in 2018 but had been weak since 2017. I guess the fact Farrar had a kid and geographically moved out of Wellington’s political ground zero masked that because National were no longer in Govt. They did not need feedback.

      Bear in mind there were few policies Nationl 2008-2017 pursued and enacted. There was basically partial asset sales and a flag referendum for 9 years work. The rest was ‘managing matters arising’.

      Most legislation was ‘on the fly’ while rabbiting about shit like ‘RMA reform’ and whatever.
      They kept Parliament simmering by gauging opinion then pushing that.
      ‘Don’t scare the horses’ approach.
      e.g. Key voted against civil union but a few years later pragmatically voted for ‘same sex marriage’.

      Once Nats were out of Govt in 2017 they did not need this K/blog feedback as they were not the ones keeping the pot simmering.
      Farrar can let more of his true nature come out and support globalists while dissing Nationalists. (National Party name, huh!)

      I would also think part of the decline in Farrar’s interest/activity was that he had a personal vibe with John Key.
      This did not extend to Bill English.
      English is an ultra conservative (by NZ standards) and Farrar is far from that.
      The raison d’etre of KB dropped away after October 2017.
      By 2018 it was a mess of shouty stuff and name calling which went unchecked.
      It was almost free range for trolls.
      It just may be that the Mar 15 ChCh event was an excuse to wind it right down.

      I suspect it is also an indication that their internal polling is telling them that, short of a miracle, they won’t get the treasury benches in 2020 otherwise Farrar would keep the blog warm for ramping up in July 2020. However five and half years of keeping it warm is a lot of effort for little immediate purpose.
      Hence my assumption that the 2008 to 2017 purpose was to gather opinions and monitor the mood of their electoral base .
      More so from 2012 to 2017 when they commenced their second term and had to look like they were doing something when really all they did was go along to get along.

      I would also suggest that what you say ABS is correct on Farrar’s left wing views and he has a misalignment with what was his blog posting base.
      Why are there so many people here so quickly at YSB?

      National has moved from middle ground in say 2010 to rather dripping-wet left.
      Under Muldoon (a conservative socialist who experienced privation in his early years; not a natural fit for National but he bulldozed his way in on intellect) the Cabinet had a lot of ex military service people so it was conservative.
      National 2019 is far from that now.

      Maybe National reflects Farrar’s views all along because while most people become more conservative with age, Farrar has stayed with a classic liberal view (although that term has been heavily abused in the last 20 years) and the party he supports has caught up with him.
      The question is: was Farrar influential in that?
      Did English see that in Farrar and reduce contact?
      National is certainly the soy slurpers Party now.
      Bridges and Farrar fit right in.
      Not for me.

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      • Thanks mate, great reply and yes very true regarding the free fish tank regarding general political feeling in the provinces. I always thought Farrar had his heart in the right place even if his brain wasn’t (I am not maligning his intelligence, more his general world view). God help us if you’re right regarding the treasury benches in 2020, though I suspect you are.
        The only saving grace may be that Winston gets turfed in the next election along with the 2nd rate politicians he attracts.
        One thing I will admit to – though I despise Labour and the clowns at the helm, they had the balls to (instantly) enact their vision of what the country should be and damn anyone who disagrees with them. There was no softly softly catchee monkey approach. So I admire them for that but I also despise them for that when I see the damage they are doing to our beautiful country. Your post makes some great points, thanks for the lengthy reply.

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        • I have to disagree on one point, why have Labour got 200 working partys on the taxpayers dime, other than to do what they never did in opersition, which is formulate policey for when they should be the government! As canb e seen on the policies written on the back of a cigerette packet. Kiwi build, child poverty as examples. Complete cockups ain’t they.
          Now the 200 working parties are solely to get elected again next term, all on the taxpayer.

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  12. Is see that a guy that distributed videos of the mosque attack (free speech) has been give nearly two years in jail.
    Yet a thug who killed a security guard at a supermarket was given home detention.
    Where is the justice in either case?

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  13. The complete and utter disgrace that is the New Zealand legal system continues:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/113561409/businessman-jailed-for-distributing-christchurch-mosque-killings-video

    I don’t care if what Arps did was not nice, reinventing a law to imprison him for what can only be described as thought crime is a fucking disgrace.

    I note Arps likened himself to Hess.

    Judge O’Driscoll in making this decision is a damned sight closer to Hess ‘s co-worker Himler than Arps could ever aspire to be.

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    • The guy is a POS in my view, but if that’s what gets you 21 months clink I have a list for you …
      Disgraceful law, disgraceful decision.

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    • I am not sure how you can be convicted of a crime that wasn’t covered by the law at the time it was committed. That’s a very dangerous road to go down.

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    • “The Crown prosecutor Shivani Dayal said because of Arps’ extreme ideological outlook, there was no prospect of his rehabilitation and his sentence should rule out home detention”
      No rehabilitation for you lad I suspect he might be the wrong shade to get golfing lessons like the sweet chap that couldn’t figure out how to kill as many people as he wanted in one go

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  14. That guy Joshua Wong in Hongkong has some balls.
    He just gets out of jail then asks that Hong Kong’s leader withdraws that bill entirley and resigns.

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    • last 5 years should be paid at replacement cost

      So funny as it appears that many others believe in depreciation. and not realize some things if bought wisely often “appreciate”.

      Then they could have had gun owners on “capital gains” 🙂

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      • Simpleton, the government sounds like they want to depreciate firearms. I would argue that if someone lost their firearms due to fire or theft insurance would pay replacement value just like they would for a tv or computer. In the case of vintage firearms, it should be like art or other collectables. I think the government will try to get off a cheaply as it can. I hope National will try their best to make sure firearm owner are fairly compensated.

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      • Guns have an inherent value, they do not really depreciate unless neglected and badly treated. Indeed, as you rightly say, in many cases they appreciate sometimes significantly. An AR 15 bought for about $1500 a couple of years ago could today be worth about $5000 if you have the right contacts among one of our numerous gangs around the country. I suspect the current ban will provide a good opportunity for gangs to upgrade their weapons because I have a feeling that many people will tell Jacinda to go get f*cked and simple not hand their guns in. If they get back 50% I’ll be surprised Kiwis being inclined to bloody mindedness when angered. Remember that they only got a few hundred of the 3000 or so L1A1 SLRs the Army sold to the public back in the eighties. Those guns are still out there in the hands of the otherwise law abiding who refused to register them as E cat in 1992 and will be unlikely to hand them in now.

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  15. Get ready for the liberal backlash ladies and gentlemen:

    Next week ICE will begin the process of removing the millions of illegal aliens who have illicitly found their way into the United States. They will be removed as fast as they come in. Mexico, using their strong immigration laws, is doing a very good job of stopping people…….

    ….long before they get to our Southern Border. Guatemala is getting ready to sign a Safe-Third Agreement. The only ones who won’t do anything are the Democrats in Congress. They must vote to get rid of the loopholes, and fix asylum! If so, Border Crisis will end quickly!

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1140791400658870274

    Things are about to get interesting

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    • You would not believe how many illegals try to get into the USA through Mexico from other countries, Guatemala, Brazil, and even Africa.
      They ride ontop of trains up Mexico at night
      No wonder Donald wants to build that wall.
      If I was him i’d put the army all along the border and turn them all back. And I’d build the wall at the same time.

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      • There are a lot of Africans currently camped on the Mexican border trying to get into the USA. NGO’s need to be charged with people smuggling

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      • Watch ‘Boarder Force USA’ Thursday night on Prime. The USA/Mexican boarder security is huge.

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    • just like the low information bludgers that our Govt looks after or Swarbrick telling the school kids how cool drugs are the Democrats will do anything to secure their future voters if that voter just happens to have multiple MS tattoos a criminal record as long as his arm then he’s just a poor misunderstood neglected boy, go the Don who looks at a long term strategy for fixing issues unlike a certain priNZess and her pathetic knee jerk captain calls

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  16. Now sit next to me kids and I’ll tell you a little story… “Once upon a time there was this great country called the United States of America, but one day many fell sick with a disease called political correctness, and the great country was overwhelmed by stupid people” The End 🙂

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  17. I wonder if GollyG had anything to do with this. Fucking embarrassing at the very least.

    Immigration New Zealand, an official government website, published a fact sheet with a map of the Middle East that showed a “Palestine,” but not Israel.

    Following a barrage of complaints on social media, the web page was removed, though screenshots remain.

    The Israel Institute of New Zealand called for a retraction of the map.

    “The most immediately obvious of the errors was a map labeling the whole of modern-day Israel as ‘Palestine,’” said the institute’s director, Ashley Church. “This is incredibly offensive and the equivalent of New Zealand Immigration displaying a map of the UK which removed Scotland and Wales and referred to the entirety of the British Isles as England.”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/official-new-zealand-government-website-wipes-israel-off-the-map/

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    • The web page also mentioned Israel’s “economic sanctions and a blockade on Hamas-controlled Gaza” with no further explanation. Israel and Egypt impose a blockade on Gaza to prevent Hamas, which is sworn to destroy Israel, from bringing in weapons, rockets and material to build fortifications and tunnels.

      “Our Immigration Minister needs to immediately apologize for the offending image and confirm that it does not reflect Government policy; Immigration New Zealand needs to issue a statement confirming that the website does not represent the views of the Ministry; and an investigation needs to be undertaken to find out who was responsible and to put in place measures to ensure that this does not happen again,”

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    • I think you are warm but try the green ‘co-leader’ Marama Davidson.

      Not a lot of love here. They don’t mix words:-
      https://israelinstitute.nz/2018/02/is-marama-davidson-a-dogmatic-street-activist-or-serious-political-leader/
      “A day before Marama Davidson’s announcement that she was putting her name forward as a candidate for the Green Party’s co-leadership she attended an anti-Israeli protest organised by the Palestinian Solidarity Movement and Kia Ora Gaza – the same group that sent Marama on the ‘Ship of Fools’ to Gaza – to demonise Israel.
      One would have thought Ms Davidson would have learned from her flotilla misadventure, a stunt which yielded nothing but shame for the Green Party. In agreeing to join the ship, Ms Davidson chose to violate international law and another country’s sovereignty for the sake of a media stunt.”

      Green Co-leader and all round reclaimer of c**ts, Davison went out of her way to spout shite when she tried to illegally enter Gaza.
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/85020524/green-mp-marama-davidson-detained-by-israeli-authorities-on-boat-in-international-waters–reports
      Oct 2016. There is a video of her disillusionment there. Believe me, you don’t want to see it.

      Davidson churns out some crap in her tweets.
      This was one:-
      Thinking of our Muslim whanau during the holy month of Ramadan!
      11:15 PM – 9 May 2019

      Many replies and one from the Other Auckland Iranian, Not Golly Gee, but Gilda Kirkpatrick
      replying to @MaramaDavidson
      Ramadan (Ramazan) is about fasting then eating between sunset and sunrise. There isn’t much to think about, it’s not like anyone is under attack. I’m assuming you’re thinking about people who get lashed if they’re seen to eat in public in some Islamic countries, it’s a crime.

      Served! Its an Ace.

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      • The Greens will remember a fig leaf of the environment when they’re campaigning for the 2020 election. Other than that, the actual environment be damned.

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        • The Greens will show more pictures of rivers with high iron content discolouring the water

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    • In 20 years time the way things are going, we will look at the UK and it will be called the Republic of Shititstan

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  18. The three NZ driving questions stumping tourists
    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/the-three-nz-driving-questions-stumping-tourists/ar-AAD1qdc

    …”Of 226 international visitors to Queenstown in a two-week period from earlier this year, just seven passed the test by getting at least 28 questions right.

    The three most common nationalities among those tested were German, British and French. A significant number (31) of tourists who were approached were Chinese visitors who didn’t want to take the test because they didn’t understand much English.”…

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    • If they asked Kiwi drivers, do you think they’d be able to answer the questions? Far too many locals seem to have the attitude of “go faster pedal, stop pedal, turn thing” when it comes to driving; you can see them surprised when the vehicle in front of them starts indicating to turn, they don’t anticipate or read a few vehicles ahead, run without lights when it’s raining or overcast, even in dark coloured cars, drive to the right, not the left – there’s just so much of general road skill that your average Kiwi has no bloody clue of.

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    • In fact, reading that article … 20 fatal crashes only?

      So 20 fatal crashes involving tourists last year with 3.82 million tourists visiting our country.

      There were 331 fatal crashes overall last year for our population of 4.74 million.

      Not the best metric, it would be better to see it by distance travelled for time; but still an interesting one.

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  19. Twenty three people have been found glued to the ceiling & walls of a train station in Dublin.

    Police believe Irish Muslims have set off the first ‘No More Nails’ bomb.

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  20. Does everyone else feel safe?

    “…A teen who once planned an Isis-style terrorist attack in Christchurch has assured people they are safe even after he absconded from the supervised accommodation where he is GPS monitored.

    “I can assure people I’ll not go back to extremism,” the 19-year-old said as he read a letter to Christchurch District Court Judge Stephen O’Driscoll pleading for release after a week in custody.

    He was arrested last week for breaching his intensive supervision sentence by leaving the house where he is closely monitored.

    He walked to a Burger King where he withdrew money intending to get a taxi to see his mother. He was quickly picked up and remanded in custody in Christchurch Men’s Prison.”
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/113242862/teen-who-planned-attack-in-christchurch-admits-absconding

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    • Defence counsel Anselm Williams asked for bail for the youth pending his sentence, which was granted by Judge O’Driscoll.

      “I am prepared to give you another chance. I have given you many chances. Some might say I have given you too many,” the judge said.

      He granted bail and returned the youth to his intensive supervision sentence, with a remand for another monitoring report on July 4.

      Fucking disgusting

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  21. A judge who admitted a relationship with a Ministry of Justice worker in Dunedin has been moved to new duties.

    Chief District Court Judge Jan-Marie Doogue said Judge Stephen O’Driscoll would no longer sit in Dunedin after a conduct complaint made against him to the judicial conduct commissioner earlier this year.

    “The complaint related to a personal relationship the judge had entered into with a Dunedin employee of the Ministry of Justice,” Judge Doogue said.

    “The judge recognises his mistake and accepts my decision, and remains committed to his duties as a judge.”

    Judge Doogue said the complaint was referred to her by the judicial conduct commissioner, who had considered the matter first.

    “Following independent advice, I ultimately decided that the judge should not sit in Dunedin,” she said.

    Judge Doogue said an agreement had been reached whereby Judge O’Driscoll would now sit in the civil court elsewhere.

    Judge O’Driscoll could not be reached for comment.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8779148/Judge-off-roster-after-relationship-complaint

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      • This article may help:

        …..”If the Attorney-General agrees with the Panel, he or she will take steps to initiate the removal of that judge from office.While the procedure to be followed depends on whether the judge is a superior court judge or an inferior court judge, the actual removal lies in both cases in the hands of the Governor-General.192Where an inferior court judge is concerned, the Governor-General must, by constitutional convention, act on the advice of the Attorney-General.193The decision is therefore the Attorney-General’s whether to seek the judge’s removal. In contrast, superior court judges can only be removed upon address of the House of Representatives.194The same holds true, in an anomaly,for Employment Court judges.195In these cases, the Attorney-General accordingly has to address Parliament, which then decides having exclusive cognisance whether to seek the judge’s removal.”…….

        https://www.victoria.ac.nz/law/research/publications/vuwlr/prev-issues/volume-46,-issue-2/Suter.pdf (page 35 of 40)

        Effectively they’re there for however long they want to stay……it’s easier to get rid of herpes!

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    • “Ask yourself if you really want an out of touch puritan judging you?”

      I would rather that than a filthy fucking virtue signalling creep who is well past his use by date
      .
      Hint only one of those is my “peer”

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    • I had been involved in a civil case in front of Justice Fisher around the time of the ‘porn’ incident, it might just be because he found in my favour lol but there was nothing wrong with his judgment and as the other party was prone to appealing matters if he could, that circumstance was certainly not put forward as a reason to set the judgment aside as far as I am aware.

      No causation or correlation. I will be interested in the appeal.

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    • Some observations of the current social trend.

      Ignorance is knowledge
      Weakness is strength
      War is peace
      Diversity is normal
      Men are women
      Lies are truth
      Opinions are news
      Black > white
      Obfuscation is transparency
      Degeneracy is normal
      Sluts are empowered women

      Feel free to add any more you have noticed

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      • What have you got against sluts? Awful word. What did they ever do to you to be on that list?

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        • Nothing per say. But lets not pretend they are role models for young girls.
          Lol “per say”. I thought per se but my brain overtook my posting

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            • I was never a sower of my seeds, though I new a lot who were.
              For me refraining from just fucking people I met meant that I respected myself, and women a lot more, I wasnt looking for the next pull though I easily could have. Abstinence to me meant not fucking anyone I could, rather than not having sex with everyone. To the liberal freedom of sex is often equated with freedom from consequences, leading to abortions because apparently sluts and raging dicks dont do contraception any more.
              I am a dinosaur I guess. My parents are still married after 50 years and I am still with my partner after 20 with a stable child although we never married.

              TLDR:
              What do I have against sluts? Nothing except the fact that the majority of them are spitting out babies either born or aborted at an ever increasing rate, either adding to the normalization of degeneracy or spreading it.

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          • You’ll never see me banging the drum for a return to ye old days of moral conservatism & religious oppression Ballsack. I’m 70 & I have total recall of the sanctimonious hypocrisy that pervaded every part of of NZ society when I was a young bugger in the 60s & 70s. Short back & sides, piss weak marijuana was the tool of the devil, men spent 50% of their time 50% pissed,”nice” girls didn’t do it & host of other shit.

            I’m proud of my Hippie roots!

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              • Every root you turn down is one you’ll never catch up with Ed. *

                Pissed, stoned or swinging from the chandelier! 🙂

                *Your co-respondent has now only one good root left in him & it’s holding him together.

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            • “I have total recall of the sanctimonious hypocrisy that pervaded every part of of NZ society ”

              My mother-in-law believed there was only one way of doing everything. Her way. We didn’t get on.

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                • Today was long ago and I am still stoned out of my tree. Bring back Jeannette!
                  All together
                  No Rain!
                  No rain!
                  Bring back Buck!

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              • There would be very few Greenies left in the Green Party (if any at all – Meteria Turie anyone?) that hold the views of Rod and Jeannette.
                The SUV wives of Auckland don’t care though, it has “Green” in the name. it MUST be good. Also safe space. Youre giving me hypertension

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                • If we can have “new conservatives” why not a “New Greens” Party. One that is interested in the environment and not all the commo shit the present one is promoting.

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        • Man I hope you dont fly to close to the sun on this one. Though as a bird I am sure I have seen you rise from the ashes a few times before. Keep up the gentle pecks , no mating frenzy, perhaps we can create guano together

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          • Yes I am wondering how long it will be before we see the unbalanced Kea. Keep up the good work Kea.

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            • I was merely musing and amusing myself in the process when I thought how nice Keas were then I kicked myself straight away

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              • I have this thing about Keas. A rather drab looking green coloured bird on the outside.

                However lift up its wings and you are confronted with a rainbow of beautiful colours.

                If we lifted our resident Keas arms or legs will we be pleasured by such a beautiful sight.

                Asking for a friend.

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    • Then wondered why the rest of the world was shooting the shit out of them and dropping bombs on their head! Ungrateful they were!

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    • Rachael I love your posts but please give a precis because I despise mass media and would rather not visit their sites and give them ad money.
      Thanks doll ♥

      ::runs away

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      • Runs away?
        Ah well. I imagine that they found all kinds of stuff pulling the place apart not setting fire to it. Was I click baiting, I guess that is why they don’t put one in their link, unlike stuff.

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        • Yeah horrid links are ….well horrid. As you pointed out at least stuff has the description in the title or link which is often all I need to avoid the story all together rather than raise my blood pressure on another poor me story…

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    • Kaboom! Buried explosives at an old gang pad. What a surprise. And the COL are trying to take firearms off of legal licensed firearm holders.

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  22. Bring back Maggy!We need her posts on scientific issues. I might write her a letter one word at a time. I still have like 200 kiwi stamps

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