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  1. OMG, the market’s broken. Teenager doesn’t think she’ll be able to buy house before she’s 25. Thinking of moving to Australia. Because we boomers were all buying houses before we’d ever settled into real jobs. FS, the entitlement.

    Meanwhile, Rotorua teen Lily Anderson wants to buy a house before she turns 25 but is thinking of moving to Australia as deposit rates continue to climb further out of her reach.
    The latest figures from OneRoof/Valocity show the deposit for a house in Rotorua is $24,000 more than it was 12 months ago.
    “I went to a number of different banks and they all kind of told me the same thing.
    “I can’t afford it by myself because I cannot make the weekly payments but I just don’t know how they expect a single person to buy a house by themselves.”

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    • Sorry I’m confused. Is the problem the deposit or the weekly payments?

      Given that less deposit will increase weekly payments.

      She’s entitled and stupid. The real problem is houses cost too much, due to govt welfare for house debt buyers.

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      • Not just that kea, too much red tape and wasted time to get houses built.
        Its still easier and more attractive option to pay 1.2million for a 50k ex state house in auckland then it is to do a new build.
        Beurocracy and a few dozen fucks that clop the ticket makes new builds a nightmare. Govts answer… throw wheelbarrows of cash at it.

        Btw that young woman could do it by 25 but what shes really saying is ” id like a house by 25 but i dont want to make any sacrifices and give up my lifestyle to get it so ill just blame everyone else and move to aussie where ill realise the same problem except ill get paid a bit more”

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          • She would have to save up and buy a red hoodie first before buyin in mataura, still expensive for what youre buying too as alot of houses there need 100k spent on them to make them an average house.

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        • I’m witnessing the unnecessary cost of building next door at the moment (yes the guys are working on Sunday –small job). The neighbours are putting on a small two story extension –about 4×5 meters.
          The builders have done all the foundations, all the framing for both floors and also the floor for the upper story. So the next stage is for the roof trusses to go on, but today’s job was to put the scaffolding around the outside of the extension. Why do they need scaffolding ? They can only put it on 2 sides as there is not enough room on the 3rd side. Great waste of money.

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          • Ross12, the horrendous charge out rate for tradies and their average to below average quality of work also make alot of work cost far more then it should.
            Very little responsibility for workmanship when someone else us paying the bill.

            I avoid getting in any tradies where i can, got a quote to re screw and paint my roof last year. The scaffold had a 4.5k+gst fee before they even started work!!! Total quote was 12k+gst, done it myself for under 2k fully rescrewed and painted. Kiwis get ripped the fuck off for no good reason.

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            • I did the same a couple of years ago . The crazy thing is because as “owner occupiers” doing the work, we do not have to have scaffolding !!. I used the old fashion plank of wood with 4×2 blocks securely hastened onto it for steps and hooked onto the ridge. (our roof is quite steep)

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        • It would be interesting to compare a) the price of a new house on Felton Mathew Avenue back in the 1970s when the suburb was being created with b) the total cost of red tape and bureaucracy for that house back in the 1970s.
          Next, compare this percentage with that in a brand new similar subdivision of detached houses, such as in Stonefields or out in the Wild West beyond Massey.

          For example, if rule compliance, red tape, bureaucracy for each of the Felton Mathew Avenue houses back in the 1970s was, say 10% of the sale price of the dwelling, then what would be the percentage for Stonefields’ houses or a new-build in Kumeu or Drury?

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      • Groan..another day of property owner bashing from the bitter and twisted renter. Not my fault you spent your early years pissing ya money up against the wall. As my dear old Dad used to say, take care of the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves which is what I did and with hard work and a lot of sacrifice, I made retirement at 51 thanks to property. Now, get back in ya Volvo, Im waiting at the next stop.

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        • Mikey’s, increasingly vivid, hallucinations lead him to believe I don’t like property investors.

          In reality, my problem is artificial manipulation of the housing market, by politicians, to buy votes. Something Ardern has been entirely open about. She has emphatically said she wants to maintain the current high levels, because kiwis use their houses for retirement funds etc.

          It’s welfare and is short sighted greed that will end in financial ruin for NZ.

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        • As I have a dollar or two invested in Rotorua I keep a bit of an eye on things there.
          Rotorua Council would be just about the friendliest any could be towards developers and builders at this time. In my experience, they have always been helpful.
          The big issue there is that most of the land is held in Maori Trusts. All the good looking land that you see. Having dealt with the city itself they are now looking ahead.
          There is a big subdivision going in at the top of Brent Rd in Owhata. First houses expected later this year.
          Out in Koutu a developer went bust after putting in roading and all the underground. That has now been taken over by another developer and they have started where the other fella left off (with his flash utes etc.), and there are 86 houses going into that development.
          Low cost housing. Can be found on line.

          All this contrasts with ten years ago when I had a hard job finding tenants for houses in both those area’s.

          And that’s what everyone forgets.

          It wasn’t that many years back when developers couldn’t sell their sections and renters treated landlords and their properties with complete distain. Rotorua lost its residents when Fletchers went broke (2000 onwards), and they all went to Aussie for work. Its been great the last few years as they all returned. Tourism went the same way. hence rotorua was a disaster area. Key was the person who fixed that. Chadwick, is pushing like hell to get houses built hence the good attitude towards those that can do.

          As I said people forget and if you have been around Tauranga long enough you will recognise the same pattern. I think since I have lived here,(just on 50 years), this is the fifth time I have have seen these booms and there will be a bust behind. The highs are higher and the lows lower perhaps.
          The truth here is that its has been cheap place to do stuff. No one could build in Auckland at the price it’s done here and that reflects all the retirement villages.
          We are a city of refugees. Refugees from towns that they spent their lives in and now can no longer afford. So they sell up , come here buy into a village at way less price and leave money in the bank.
          The problem with that is our city can’t keep up. We don’t charge enough to have the money to provide the facilities we either have to have or just generally want as nice to haves. The city rate base of 55000 ratepayers ( and remember that villages add a lot to that but are one ratepayer, can’t and shouldn’t prop up all these refugees. Its made a lot worse by the county around the city. The county has been allowing the same kind of growth and that exacerbates Tauranga problems. Their ratepayers are provided with minimal facilities and yet they come to town and use those provided by the TCC ratepayers. (as do tourists and tourist ships, mostly only providing a low wage economy) One survey I am aware of found that 70% of the county residents go into the city for work or play or other things.

          13 or 14 years ago Grasshopper developments started The Lakes and went broke. Couldn’t sell sections. Carrus negotiated for over 3 years with the bank before they were able to take over. That developed 2000+ sections and is completed with jus a few sections left to be built on. there are no major developments that am aware fo the will release a lot of section onto the market for at least 3 years.
          Bob Clarkson would have ben filling that space now except for council intransigence. Not going to happen ow as its sold to a high-cost developer and won’t be in place for that 3 years most likely.
          So expect the prices here to keep going one way to perhaps the refugees will stop coming.
          Tauranga’s biggest issue is that underfunding for other people and a lack of proper recognition of our roading issues by NZTA and all govt.’s. We have the biggest port and therefore we need much better rail and roads.
          Tauranga City Council has in the past built and funded our first bridge, the motorway that the bridge needed to function and then the expressway to allow that to function.

          NO other council in NZ has ever done anything like that.

          Thanks to Winston (and yes I get you don’t like him), we got the second bridge we needed. Twisted HelUN ‘s arm so she could govern and thank goodness he did. If we had waited for NZTA we would still be waiting.
          Now we have commissioners.
          They are being bullied with the narrative that the city hasn’t kept up with its infrastructure. Thats patently untrue. The City has although some f it is contained currently with water being short. But the basic facilities are there and working. The big issue is roading and most of that relies on NZTA funding and I totally demonstrateable they have never been forcoming. The outfit is run by lefties so being a Nat area we suffer. And yes that’s exactly true.
          We are waiting for the next 3 years just to get roading access to the new area’s for subdivision. NZTA’s in the way.
          We are finally ( I think) starting the KatiKati rd. There are few roads in NZ that carry the traffic that does, is so outright dangerous that have been ignored like this has. I can think of probably two roads that are the same. Warkworth and around Lake taupo.
          Meanwhile, we have really good roads on flat land that get money piled into them.

          All because the Tauranga Council took the road to independence, all those years ago.
          Lefties never forget.

          Oh and our hospitals here and in Whakatane and Rotorua would have been the same except for the work of Tony Ryall. Like a lot of others that has gone backwards again.
          The Nats should count the days since they allowed Key to dispense with Tony and Simon Power. They were the future leaders. Look what we got.

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          • Careful talking of a bust. Mikey will hate rage on you 🤪

            There are issues with raising finance for Papakāinga housing . After what happened to Fletcher’s, I wouldn’t buy it outright from Maori. It could be stolen back at any time.

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          • Thanks Viking.

            I would guess that Tauranga /Mt Maunganui prospered when Bob Owens was mayor of both towns.
            I was visiting TGA for diving in the mid 80s and was impressed that they had the initiative to build the harbour bridge themselves.

            Auckland trickles along on a 62 year old bridge that had clip ons added a bit later on the original support structure.
            No-one can see their way clear to build a second harbour crossing so if the AKl Harbour Bridge fails the city will be massively degraded commercially.
            The alternative NW motorway (H.16) is a car park for 2+ hours each weekday morning so could not move the NS traffic.

            NZTA is a massive failure that was formed of a merger on 1 July 2008 months before Klarkenfuhrer … about the time they ‘bought back’ NZ Rail.

            Your comment about rest homes – one rates bill.
            I remain convinced for Local Govt. …One rates bill, one vote.
            No others.

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            • Owens greatest contribution was that he funded lots of piss head parties.
              This last weekend was the 125th birthday of Sharp Tudhpe and co.
              In the pics was one of my oldest friends and a few others that I sailed with over time.
              My friend was on the arbour boards and tells some stories about going to see the Minister in Wellington to get Permission to buy a crane. I kid you not. He also became the city solicitor along with his practice.
              They held that position until the Clown Town came along . Thats when everything started to go downhill. Bought in the BO(I)G CITY lawyers and we have been screwed ever since.
              Their advice on many things is just so appalling.

              I’ve been think a bit about the problem l;lately.
              Its obvious that councils work ok ion small places but they are failing in most.
              Its become a political rather a local organization. That’s why the small ones still tick over but the big ones don’t.

              Several years ao I read about a city in the USA which contracted out all its work. I consider there is merit looking at that. There is really no reason why any council should build and own buildings and services.
              I inclined to the idea that we should elect some commissioners who should locals only. and they get left with the plane. They then have a small group that sets it all in motion. They could run a system like the Swiss and decide by referendum all major items.
              I also think we have far too many local bodies and most could retire to go fishing.wonder what others think?
              We just have to get rid of the politics from the system.

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              • Toronto created a super city in the 2000 decade and corruption followed.

                Sydney reviewed and stuck with the multiple smaller councils.

                The big ones are too disconnected from the people.

                Caygill and Merry Palmer messed up the Council structure in 1989.
                It also brought in the hacks who got paid.
                Prior Councillors were effectively volunteers so they were efficient with their time.
                Now they hang around and make a smell like Cathy Casey in Auckland. (The tart was on the South Wairarapa Council in the late 90s. An annoying bitch then as she is now. M M M M Matt M M M M McCarten’s tart)

                Another useless PhD ‘Doctor’ in f…ing sociology.
                As if you could find a more useless subject.

                Plus the smaller ones- someone sees the mayor’s wife at the shops and chews her ear. Things got done. Quickly.

                Onehunga before 1989 built up a large strong industrial area.
                Newmarket with 5000 ratepayers built a high end retail area with only 5000 ratepayers.
                These will never happen again.

                Smaller can well be better.

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    • Perhaps consider looking at houses in a price bracket you can afford is a solution?

      I recall an ensuite and “indoor outdoor flow” was not an option when we purchased our first and very well used house over 50 years ago. It was very basic but was a home. Had to do a lot of work to improve things while working to pay a mortgage but that was the best option.

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      • Yeah, this. We back then did not even know the concept of a ‘starter home’. We bought the (old) home we just barely could get with the mortgage interest rate over 27% for a while, and worked like heck to stay afloat. 2 jobs both of us until the first little one arrived. Start basic, pay it off, then maybe look to upgrade. Don’t start with what you want, start with what you can afford…

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        • Random you just hit the nail on the head, “dont start with what you want, start with what you can afford”.
          Look around at all these “poor young ones that cant afford a house” many have been living well beyond their means using credit cards and hp, half my mates cant “afford” a house and whinge endlessly about it yet tgey earn more then me and a few of them dont even have kids but they are however paying off multiple new vehicles and ticked up OEs and world travel, takeout 5nights a week and buy lunch everyday.
          “If you dont sacrifice for what you want then what you want becomes the sacrifice”

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  2. Another failure for Labour and Jacinda Ardern over her be kind rhetoric.
    Calls for Prison discipline overhaul amid increasing assaults on Corrections staff, but Corrections Minister Kelvin Davis denies Prison Management have gone soft as officers face increasing assaults on the job.
    The number of staff assaulted increased to 889 in 2019-2020 year up 654 the year before, those assaults meant nearly 6,000 workdays were lost by prison staff this financial year has already seen534 assaults on Guards as at the end of January https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300251019/calls-for-prison-discipline-overhaul-amid-increase-in-assaults-on-corrections-staff
    When is the public going to wake up to Jacinda’s bullshit and out of their depth Ministers or will it take deaths and disability for them to take action.

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  3. Love your heading photo Ed, very topical.

    With only one channel we all used to love watching the entertainment of ‘The Black and White Minstrel Show’. The black men sure could sing and dance and nobody was offended. At least back in the day people were allowed to enjoy themselves without constantly being told they were racist or race appropriating and all the other woke control terms we live under these days.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoYOraDt1_k&t=12s
    The Black & White Minstrel Show

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  4. A mature English gentleman was sat sipping a gin and tonic and reading the Times in a crowded bar at Heathrow airport when a young man asked if he could join him as there were no other vacant tables. The older man makes room for him and the young man sits opposite and strike’s up a conversation.
    “Going on holiday?” The young man asked.
    “No young man I am sorry to say that I am leaving England for good”
    ‘”Oh, why is that sir?”
    The older man sighs and puts down his newspaper…”Well in the 1800s homosexuality was punishable by the death penalty in the UK. Then in the early 1900s it was reduced to a lengthy prison sentence. In 1967 homosexuality was decriminalised for same sex couples over the age of 21and then in the 1980s the law changed to consenting adults of 18 or over and then the consenting age was further reduced in 2001 to 16 years of age. Then in 2014 the government passed a law that allowed gay couples to marry. I have decided to leave the country before the government decides to make homosexuality compulsory.

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  5. Apple announced today that it has developed a breast implant that can store & play music. The iTit will cost $499 or $599 depending on cup size. This has been hailed as a major breakthrough because women are always complaining about men staring at their breasts & not listening to them.

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    • Special privilidges and modern aparthied being implemented.

      Fucking disgusting and will only end in total failure, wasted money and possibly bloodshed. Just wait untill willie and his darker maori mates decide that a you need to be darker then a certain shade or x% maori to get the special privilidges… 2/3 of the current ones that identify as maori will then get the evil white person treatment.

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    • Just wow – just what are we going along with. I note we are talking about indigenous people but I didn’t see a definition, surely they would have to be over 50% or their British etc heritage might dominate. Personally, they can all get stuffed.

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    • The aspects of that report needs a lot of repeating, and then to understand the ramifications.
      Many will then see the agenda that the governments have been following.

      That report had to be forced out by the “Official Information Act”
      It is set to rule over many other laws, regulations and many decisions that will effect you, and you will have to account to this.

      That agenda in the report is so many more stages on than incorporating Waitangi Treaty principles.

      That puts in place “steps”, the “time frames”, the year to year implementation and just what it involves.
      The “road maps” “reviews” “remedies” “actions” “funding” “further legislation” “resources” etc., etc.. to be made “harmonious” in all parts of government bureaucracy, local & national levels.

      A hi-light of this expressed yesterday.
      https://ysb.co.nz/have-your-say-697/#comment-130761

      To be made “harmonious”, so the general public were not aware of this. 🙁

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  6. I noticed last night while watching from home the Crusaders dealing with the Chiefs that one stand appeared quite full, the other had lots of empty spaces. I wonder whether that had anything to do with this.
    “The Crusaders will also acknowledge Ōtautahi PRIDE Week at the game on Saturday night, supported by students from the University of Canterbury. Orangetheory Stadium will be illuminated in rainbow colours, and UC students will be wearing rainbow t-shirts in the West Stand, in support of PRIDE Week.”
    What a lot of tossers, in my humble opinion.

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  7. The Mongrel Mob infiltrated a Bay of Plenty security firm, with a member gaining a job as a security guard and feeding sensitive information back to the gang.

    The firm’s owner says police intelligence sources told him gangs were increasingly using such tactics to gain inside information, planting “cleanskin” members – new recruits without convictions – into businesses and even government departments.

    In the Bay of Plenty case, the worker, who was sacked on the spot when his gang association was discovered, remains a licensed security guard – his name still appearing on the online register.

    That’s because of what the Security Association calls a “weakness” in the licensing system run by the Ministry of Justice.

    https://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/264250-mongrel-mob-member-sacked-from-security-firm-job.html?fbclid=IwAR3uXtOv0WTQ2372HuLg9xzALvW3N3Hc7ovt4zmdw8yIvTOEvB7VyIKyuF4

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  8. Oranga Tamariki delivers, while Kelvin Davis pontificates

    After briefly appearing in the Social Services and Community Select Committee this week, Kelvin Davis reiterated his wish for Oranga Tamariki to focus on three key areas “relationships with whānau and Māori in the regions, professional social work practices as well as organisational culture.”

    Perhaps Kelvin was unaware of what was happening in his Ministry, as former Chief Executive (CE) Grainne Moss seems to have already achieved that. In her final public testimony, she noted the achievements of the department under her tenure, notably:

    Lowest number of children entering care since 2004.
    Lowest number of children in custody since the establishment of Oranga Tamariki.
    Higher payments and more training for over 3500 caregivers, National Care Standards in place.
    Disparities for tamariki and rangitahi improving at a faster rate than those of Pakeha.
    11 Whānau Care Partnerships, up from 0 in 2017. Potentially reaching over 50% of the children needing care or currently in care.
    18 Iwi & Māori Providers providing care, up from 11 in 2017.
    Nearly doubling of investment in iwi organisations to $90m, up from $55m in 2017.
    Reduction in Social Worker caseload work from 1:31 to 1:21, to now 1:19 (as of Feb)
    Staff turnover from 13.4% (14.2% for Social Workers) down to 8.7% (5.8% for Social Workers).
    Pay equity delivered, gender pay gap closed, and staff engagement 5% above public service benchmark.

    It would appear that if Kelvin Davis had bothered to pick up the phone on occasion, he might have actually learned something about the department for which he is responsible.

    You can read the testimony here and powerpoint presentation here from Oranga Tamariki’s Annual Review.

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  9. Scientists Propose “Lunar Ark” To Store 6.7 Million Sperm Samples As Global Insurance Policy

    “Earth is naturally a volatile environment,” Thanga said in the study titled “Lunar Pits and Lava Tubes for a Modern Ark.” The team debuted the study at the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) Aerospace Conference last Saturday.

    “An ark, just like Noah’s in the Bible, could store endangered species more cost-effectively than protecting them on earth or creating an artificial ecosystem,” Thanga said.

    The researcher proposed building the ark in a lunar pit and or lava tubes, holding upwards of 6.7 million species of seeds, sperm, eggs, and DNA.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/scientists-propose-lunar-ark-store-67-million-sperm-samples-global-insurance-policy

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  10. At interesting reply about the New Zealand counting systems for the General Election.

    Free Media New Zealand
    After the electoral controversy in the US New Zealander Dan Lacey sent an official information request to the New Zealand electoral commission to find out details about our own elections.

    His first request uncovered that votes are entered into a system called the Electoral Management System.
    And that the computers at electorate headquarters are connected to the internet.

    https://gab.com/danlacey/posts/105580989884576334

    His second request uncovered that the computers at electorate headquarters are not protected by any specialist anti-virus software or firewall.
    Only using the free protection services that come on every windows computer.

    https://gab.com/danlacey/posts/105745049923598189

    A further request was made that uncovered that three unknown employees have administrative access to the Election Management System.
    And that the system was updated a month prior to the election.

    https://gab.com/danlacey/posts/105773035308718938

    It sort of repeats, but brings up some issues.
    Both showing the reply from Mr James Willcocks
    Chief Information Officer.
    Electoral Commission.

    Here’s an OIA request I found online from December 2020 in relation to the 2020 NZ election.
    To sum up:

    – No tabulation software used at voting places, all votes are counted manually.
    – Personnel at HQ enter totals into system called Election Management System.
    – System developed with CATALYST .NET LIMITED.
    Computers at HQ have access to the internet and use antivirus.
    – Some kind of certification, accreditation and penetration testing takes place.

    This raises many further questions which need answering.

    I think it’s particularly concerning that the same computers which the Election Management System runs on are connected to the internet.
    Anyone who knows a bit about IT will know that no antivirus is 100% secure and the only way for true protection here would be to not connect to the internet at all… this is what is supposed to happen in the US.

    If these systems were going to get hacked then we wouldn’t be talking about an off-the-shelf virus that I would expect any antivirus software to pick up.
    https://gab.com/danlacey/posts/105580989884576334

    So is this monitored?
    Scrutineers?
    Chain of custody?
    How were the early voting and mail-in ballots scrutineer-ed?, chain of custody?

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    • Good to see someone having real dig into this issue. I hope he keeps going because , while I have never questioned the NZ system before, something did not seem right for the result of the last election. Labour undoubtedly won but the details did not seem right.

      If all the ballots are counted by hand and the results sent from each electorate to the EC in Wellington, surely not much more than a good spreadsheet is needed to collate the results , so what exactly is the “Election Management System” or is it just a fancy name for the spreadsheet.

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    • Another guy also wonders about the election count.
      He picks up on the differential of party votes, and rural seats & urban seats.
      Maybe it was not so complicated to do?
      Just picking up on some discrepancies and wondering why?
      https://kenhorlor.blogspot.com/2020/10/nz-general-election-2020-was-it-rigged.html

      Coincidences? Right to the decimal point.
      https://kenhorlor.blogspot.com/2020/11/nz-election-2020-more-statistics.html

      An interesting debate about “was the election rigged”?
      https://kenhorlor.blogspot.com/2020/12/daniel-stride-tries-criticise-ken.html

      We need to make sure that all these “weak chain links” are covered, monitored, scrutineer-ed.
      And/or find a better way, to make the elections to be audited?
      So clear lines of responsibility, to show accountability.

      Funny now that “windows systems” are having problems now and doing upgrades, patches. 🙂
      Leaks? Hacks? Back doors?

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      • The Whangarei electorate would be a good one to have a look at. It’s been blue forever and the majorities have been big. It is a large spread out electorate with a large rural population,why would it suddenly go Labour? The candidate Emily Henderson was a virtual unknown. I deal with businesses and organizations throughout this area and I can’t for the life of me see how this happened. I sent her an email asking her not to vote for the Maori wards legislation and got a generic reply from a minion as you would expect from such a busy person. I note she also refers to herself as Doctor all the time even though her doctorate is in law. An entitled wannabe who shouldn’t be there and deserves to be a one term wonder. After that she can go crawling back to daddy’s law firm, the most expensive outfit in Whangarei.

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    • Just to balance the debate and broaden thoughts, maybe connections, about the “is the election rigged?” here is Daniel Strides take of Ken Horlor.
      Though I do not care for his arrogance and name calling and does not really address some of Ken’s points.

      https://phuulishfellow.wordpress.com/2020/11/21/ken-cant-count-no-the-new-zealand-election-wasnt-rigged/

      Still some things to weigh up as background points to understand some things.
      Though in parts Daniel puffs a bit, about possible, but not in that way, and blurs things.
      Also note there seems to be a note/tweet from the Electoral Commission.

      Conversation
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      Electoral Commission | Te Kaitiaki Take Kōwhiri
      @ElectoralCommNZ
      Replying to
      @MatthewPercy3
      Kia ora Matthew – vote tallies for each voting place are entered into our Election Management System which tabulates the results. This software was developed by an NZ company and regularly undergoes an independent security audit.
      11:15 AM · Nov 16, 2020·Sprout Social

      Mark7278
      @Mark72781
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      Nov 20, 2020
      Replying to
      @ElectoralCommNZ
      and
      @MatthewPercy3
      Also, can you say who the auditors are?
      Mark7278
      @Mark72781
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      Nov 20, 2020
      Replying to
      @ElectoralCommNZ
      and
      @MatthewPercy3
      And, do you or could you have a video documentary following an individual vote paper from being filled out walking through the entire paper trail to the final result?
      Maybe around an hour long?
      Showing all the checking processes in detail?

      https://twitter.com/ElectoralCommNZ/status/1328099219329179650?

      Probably nothing to really chew on, but still all the better to safeguard how elections are run in the future.
      Still maybe some else may see or know a different angle than me?

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  11. I took one for the team and wandered over to the
    digital shit paper that is Stuffed. Some woke wanker there
    has compiled a pathetic ‘opinion’ piece about how New Zealand
    is a ‘ridiculous’ name for this country. The stupid cunt ‘quite likes’
    aotearoa. ( I refuse to spell that idiocy in capitals).
    Our taxpayer dollars are being used to pay this prick and his
    sewer dwelling employer. Fuck I’m pissed off.

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    • It gets worse.

      There is a long propaganda piece (of shit that I will not link to)

      All about how ‘mum is a conspiracy theorist and wont believe the papers’.
      Kids trying to help her understand the BS. blah blah

      It is more Boucher bullshit from them directly implanted from the scabby WaPo
      The writer:-
      ‘Jose A. Del Real is a reporter on The Post’s national political enterprise and investigations team. During the 2016 election, he traveled across the country to cover Donald Trump’s presidential campaign and filed stories from more than 40 states. He was until recently based in Los Angeles as a national correspondent for the New York Times. He returned to The Post in 2020.’

      So a paid up member of S.C.U.M. then. Works for Washington post; a while in soaked-in-crazy California for the NYT

      Credibility score for Jose da Wop:
      minus 200

      He is a latino .
      Latinos are lefty Demonrats.
      Find me a latino country – central and south America – where they are doing well.
      Lefty thinking will do that.

      The other bit of waffle was written by Damien Grant who is hit and miss.

      I simply wandered in there to see what is happening with the Americas Cup I have paid so much for
      The Team of 1.6 million taxpayers that have forked out one third of one Billion dollars for this gig.

      Two showers and a bath in dettol may have cleared the stench from this journey.

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    • New York
      New Jersey
      New Guinea
      Why not New Zealand?

      The “New” is also a think in Japan. You know about the city of Yokohama, but did you know that there is a Shinkansen (bullet train) station to the north of Yokohama that is known as “Shin Yokohama” (literally “New Yokohama”).

      A name may be awkward, but it is the name of your nation, and as such, deserves some love and respect. Your ancestors died for New Zealand, so to change the name dishonors them, in a way.

      Besides, Aotearoa is a name made up by white fellas; not Maori (whose “Aotearoa” only referred to the North Island).

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    • Half those women at the vigil want men banned from the streets after dark.
      I hate the fucking poolice but i had stupidity and oppressive ideas so fuck them give the cops some battens so those women have sonething descent to whinge about

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    • I saw that.
      Not on BBC.
      I would not go there. It would take more than a bath in dettol to remove the stench of the BBC
      (Buggering British Children)

      That was poor optics but the Brit police force are a spent force.
      No action on knife attacks but they tear into women holding a vigil for another woman killed by one of their own.

      Complete and utter filth.
      Met poo lice – Headed by the Dick hating dyke Cressida Dick.

      What a place Britain has become!!

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  12. Experimental vaccine death rate for Israel’s elderly 40 times higher than COVID-19 deaths: researchers

    A re-analysis of published data from the Israeli Health Ministry by Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a member of the faculty of Medicine Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases at Aix-Marseille University, and engineer Haim Yativ reveal, in short, that the mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period. Among the younger class, these numbers are compounded to death rates at 260 times what the COVID-19 virus would have claimed in the given time frame.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/experimental-vaccine-death-rate-for-israels-elderly-40-times-higher-than-covid-19-deaths-researchers

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  13. Even The Banks Are Bailing Now: Dealers Dump Record Amount Of Treasurys

    But a bigger problem emerging is that we are now nearing that inflection point in the market when traders recall that more than 100% of all US net Treasury issuance in the past year was monetized by the Fed, and with everyone now selling – including hedge funds, CTAs, and primary dealers – it will be up to central banks to step up their intervention and prop up the bond market once again, or all those fans of MMT who have zero comprehension about how anything works in the real world, will realize just why we have been it Magic Money Tree all these years, and that without the Fed purchasing debt, there is simply no more “magic”…

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/even-banks-are-bailing-now-dealers-dump-record-amount-treasurys?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29

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    • Hydrogen is an awful medium for the transfer of energy. They would be far better off looking at the combustion of ammonia (NH3) mediated by a catalyst. The reaction products are 4NH3+ 3O2→2N2+ 6H2O.

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  14. FFS, come on TVNZ ,I was just watching your coverage with the 4 commentators 2 minutes ago and you let slip the ” buurrrp,buuurp fucking sound when the race boats aren’t even moving ,,FFuuuckk it’s a buzz noise /word that’s been used to fucking often just like the words. “genome sequencing” but stupid NZrs love it …
    5 or 7 knots with real yachts would have a race that would prove which team was the most skilful. ,NZ is overflowing with dumb fucks.

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  15. The world renowned Geert Vanden Bossche Vaccine creator, who worked for Gates and Gavi, put out a letter to every single professional in the World on his Linkedn, saying they must stop the Vaccine program now!

    Geert Vanden Bossche, gave a groundbreaking interview this week risking his reputation and his career by bravely speaking out against administration of #Covid19 vaccines. In what may be one of the most important stories ever covered by The Highwire, the vaccine developer shared his extreme concerns about these vaccines in particular and why we may be on track to creating a global immunity catastrophe.

    https://rumble.com/vek2vd-a-coming-covid-catastrophe.html

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    • His letter.
      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evzvo-jWYAQpfCR?format=jpg&name=large

      Some more technical information with flow charts & graphs based on GVDBossche’ letter.
      https://weehingthong.org/2021/03/10/geert-vanden-bossche-writes-to-the-who-about-the-implications-of-mass-vaccination-during-a-pandemic/

      This helps explains the nebulous way Fauci explains himself.
      Fauci,[was] asked “what’s the science” for denying vaccinated Americans a return to travel, can’t explain.
      “When you don’t have the data and you don’t have the actual evidence, you’ve got to make a judgment call.”

      https://twitter.com/i/status/1369623714426454018

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      • Someone from Voices for Freedom is planning to put Gerts letter to all NZ GP’s. I understand that it has already been sent to the NZ health authorities. No one will be able to say that they didn’t know.
        Voices for Freedom is a very good group and growing fast by the way. Sub groups are being formed all around the country and meetings are being held at a local level. Attended the North Shore group yesterday it was great to meet with like minded people face to face.

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        • Thanks ROL as it is easy to miss or to only get parts of that letter.
          Thanks Curious, as governments must note, they can only rule by our consent, and the vaccines are by our consent, or not.
          ,
          This guy has simplified the issues from that letter.
          There is much good information, weighing up the discussion, debates.
          ,
          …… Summary [with my emphasis in parts]
          Here are the key points I think Bossche is making.
          ,
          Note: If I have made any errors in summarizing Bossche I will promptly correct them when informed.
          ,
          What is the big picture background?
          ,
          We are conducting an unprecedented global experiment by broadly administering a vaccine in the middle of a pandemic, while having an imperfect understanding of pandemic science.
          ,
          For example, we do not understand why pandemics usually have 3 waves before dying out.
          Or why pandemics often first attack old people and then shift to younger people in subsequent waves.
          ,
          Given our imperfect understanding, our priority should be to do no harm.
          .
          Experts today are so specialized that very few have an integrated big picture view.
          .
          Our culture today is fixated on technology as being the solution to all of our problems.
          .
          Do our officials and experts have any bad intentions?
          No.
          .
          The vaccines were developed by brilliant people in professional companies, have been properly tested for safety, and achieve the objective of preventing people from becoming sick when exposed to the virus.
          .
          Why have officials chosen a plan for mass vaccinations?
          .
          Their top priority is to prevent the medical system from crashing in the short term due to an overload of sick people.
          They are not thinking about the long term.
          .
          I would add, which Bossche did not mention, that governments are anxious to restart their economies because they know the system is fragile and susceptible to a deflationary crash, and because current emergency deficit spending is not sustainable.
          .
          What are the characteristics of the vaccines we’re using?
          .
          The vaccines prevent someone from becoming sick when exposed to the virus for which the vaccine was designed.
          .
          The vaccines do not kill the virus. A vaccinated person can spread the virus without showing any symptoms.
          .
          Bossche claims that the immune system of a vaccinated person will be less able to fight variants of the virus for which the vaccine is ineffective.
          In other words, an unvaccinated person may stand a better chance against future virus variants.
          .
          A vaccine is not like a drug that is eventually expelled by your body.
          A vaccine permanently reprograms your immune system software.
          Because of this, the precautionary principle is critical.
          .
          What are the problems with the current vaccination plan?
          Mass vaccinations, in the middle of a pandemic, which do not kill the virus, and which keep the recipient healthy and thus less prone to spread the virus, will apply strong selection pressure to the virus for mutations that both evade the vaccine AND make people sicker.
          .
          If more deadly variants of the virus emerge we will not be able to outrace them with new vaccines.
          In other words, if we inadvertently create a more deadly variant, we have no exit plan.
          .
          Why did Bossche become alarmed, and why is he speaking up so late in the game?
          .
          Bossche’s studies of pandemic history suggest it is very unusual for more virulent strains to emerge late in a pandemic.
          When more virulent strains were reported in late 2020 he became concerned and suspected that our lock-down policies may have encouraged the virus to mutate.
          Then he thought about the implications of broadly vaccinating both healthy and unhealthy people and decided to pull the fire alarm.
          What should we have done?
          Protected vulnerable people with some combination of isolation and vaccinations.
          Allowed the virus to spread and build natural immunity in the healthy portion of the population.
          Encouraged lifestyles for healthy immune systems.
          How will we know if Bossche is right?
          .
          In countries with aggressive vaccination programs (Israel, UK, US) we should see an initial decline in cases, followed in a few weeks or few months by new variants and a rise in cases.
          Here is the COVID data for Israel which we can monitor to help decide if Bossche is right or wrong:
          https://news.google.com/covid19/map?hl=en-CA&mid=%2Fm%2F03spz&gl=CA&ceid=CA%3Aen
          .
          What are the main arguments against Bossche’s concerns?
          Some scientists do not think there is evidence for immune escape variants as Bossche predicts.
          .
          What does Bossche think individuals should do?
          Promote a strong immune system with good diet, exercise, sleep, and some light exposure to the virus to train the immune system.
          If you are young and/or healthy, delay being vaccinated until there is scientific consensus on Bossche’s concerns.
          .
          What do I think an individual should do?
          Stay healthy as Bossche suggests, also take Vitamin D.
          Have some Ivermectin on hand for self-treatment if required.
          Prepare for the possibility in a few months of a more serious pandemic in which we might choose a self-imposed lockdown without access to grocery stores for some period of time.

          Also to note Bossche himself has come out against the
          a March 12 statement from Bossche distancing himself from the crazies who are misrepresenting his concerns.
          https://un-denial.com/2021/03/12/dr-geert-vanden-bossche-on-vaccination-policy-risks/
          .
          In that link you can view a rebuttal.
          The comments are reasonable and well considered.
          It seems we are all in the petri dish.
          .
          The damm thing is the overbearing scientists, Big Pharma, BigTech, narcissists, quasi officials, the misinformation, the hiding of information, flooding of “good news” propaganda, the agendas for other purposes, and the hindering of the free flow of information, so that vigorous and rigorous debate, and discussion can take place to bring forth data, information, facts, evidence to just what is going on.
          With that we then can reason and figure the value, that becomes knowledge. Knowledge wisely used, gives power in decision making.
          .
          Any way now that Israel and looks like the UK are well ahead in the vaccine stakes, lets hope all the details can come so that issues can be weighed up and how it is working out.

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    • The guy Del Bigtree, presenting the video about GVBossche does not like vaccines
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_Bigtree
      And so Del Bigtree raves on.
      Sure he shows the GVDBossche talking, but presents his interpretation of it.
      ——-_– – – – – – – – – – – –

      Bossche himself has come out against the
      a March 12 statement from Bossche distancing himself from the crazies who are misrepresenting his concerns.
      Here also you will find the original part of Bossche.
      Plus also a rebuttal.
      This seems a better point about Bossche and also the comments are quite considered.
      https://un-denial.com/2021/03/12/dr-geert-vanden-bossche-on-vaccination-policy-risks/

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  16. Come on you fucking wankers ,give us a laugh and race your yachts like folk have done for a thousand years, WTF , do you have to be “flying” take your fucking superman suits and space man helmets off and race you cowardly soy boys .
    This is a joke ,does it say in the regulations that yachts must be foiling ? and FFS stop with the Buuurp Buurrrp Buurrp strained rope propaganda .

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    • Revtech120 I have been giving your comment a lot of consideration, weighing up the pros and cons and assessing your linguistic style on the matter.

      I have come to the conclusion that your use of the term ‘wankers’ is absolutely spot-on correct in this instance. Many thanks for putting this ‘sport’ into perspective for our readers.

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      • Eurokiwi, these tossers are the people you see driving down the road in their Maserati and Aston Martin convertible heaps of crap with their noses in the air,fucking brats in the back and most likely going down to see if their new batman suits fit tightly enough.
        WANKERS EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM and their partners are no better,the hollow bitches most likely wear T shirts with ” My man is team NZ”
        SERIOUSLY FOLKS we are being conned big time..

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        • Most of the $$$$$ team nz has scammed from the govt goes into their own pockets via paychecks and very little % of the money is actually spent on hardware like boats etc. People are the biggest expense of americas cup campaign, yes weve been conned but the govt supplies welfare to everyone nowdays no matter if youre rich or poor.

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          • It gives TVNZ a circus to distract with.

            “Bread and circuses” (or bread and games; from Latin: panem et circenses) is a metonymic phrase referring to superficial appeasement and is used commonly in cultural, particularly political context, the phrase means to generate public approval, not by excellence

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          • The original amount promised was $30 million which was too much anyway.
            It has since escalated to more than ten times that to in excess of Three Hundred and Twenty Million dollars ($320,000.000.00)

            That fat poof as ‘Sports Minister’ who would be a menace inside any men’s dressing room is Robbers son.
            He spends out money ‘to be liked’ like his daddy spent stolen money to get a gambling rush.
            His sporting ability- well he met Alfie at a rugby game or something.

            Team NZ was supported by taxpayers and won under Sir Peter Blake in 1995.
            Why keep pouring money into this?
            It is not a once in lifetime event at all.

            That dickhead Dalton was the one in 2013 that gave away a spare day to Oracle to improve and win.
            It is not tiddlywinks.
            At that level when your foot is on their throat, press harder.

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  17. Conman allowed to stay

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/03/man-facing-deportation-permitted-to-stay-in-new-zealand-after-conning-people-out-of-thousands.html

    He appealed to the Immigration and Protection Tribunal, which said the family’s exceptional humanitarian circumstances would make it unduly harsh to deport him.

    It ruled that even if he and his wife did not adopt out their two New Zealand-citizen children, aged three and 18 months, and instead returned to India as a family, they would face poverty and ill-health there.

    It summarised his offending: “The appellant and his two associates set up a company in July 2015 and placed online advertisements for the position of service technician in September 2015. Over the following weeks, they interviewed a number of individuals for the advertised position. Applicants were then advised that they had succeeded in gaining the position but would get the job only if they paid some several thousand dollars.

    “The requested sums were paid but when the successful applicants sought to take up their employment, they found that the company’s premises had been vacated. Further, in early November 2015, the appellant arranged to hire camera equipment, valued at $95,000. He collected the equipment but did not return it.”

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    • …..” the couple’s mental health, as they had suicidal thoughts and symptoms of depression.”…..

      And on that pretext the Tribunal has sentenced the NZ taxpayers to support the useless bludging bastards for the rest of their probably overbreeding lives.

      In a sane country the Tribunal would be disbanded & individually hanged for theft of our resources.

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    • ‘The 31-year-old man was told he would be sent back to India after being convicted of conning people out of thousands of dollars.’

      A fecking Indian conman.
      no surprise there.

      and
      ‘their two New Zealand-citizen children, aged three and 18 months,’

      But
      . Further, in early November 2015, the appellant arranged to hire camera equipment, valued at $95,000. He collected the equipment but did not return it.”

      So the offending was from 2015

      Has kids a couple of years later when the heat is on

      and
      “[He] and his wife are so concerned about their daughters’ prospects in India that they have contacted Oranga Tamariki to set about making blah blah bullshit

      NO ! daft Immigration NZ.

      He was not concerned or he would not have been a dirty criminal who now knows he can get away with it.

      Bring back Hang drawn and quartering.
      I’ll pay a $200 ticket for that.

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    • Reminds me of a con afew years ago.
      Someone I know was in Queensland and jobs were hard to get.
      There was an advertisement for jobs in a new company and they interviewed heaps of mainly females.
      They were told they had the job but had to pay $1000 for a uniform. many did this and low and behold when they turned up for the job there was no one there .
      The perpetrators scarpered .
      I knew a cop that worked on the case. Never caught the bastards.
      (I know some people are stupid)

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  18. Now that Jethro is officially on Labour’s payroll as a spokesperson for them does that give him a title that has more clout than first fish. Also will he be able to attend caucus meetings without the need to be smuggled in by hiding in Cindys hand bag.

    Asking for a friend who would like to be a consultant for Labour and needs know who he should cuddle up with to get his feet on the ladder rungs.

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  19. Did I hear right. On TV One today they were carrying out pre race interviews. One person being interviewed expressed his pleasure that Jack Tam had come out.

    This followed a video of Tam prancing along in a funny way at the Basin. Poor Toni Street blushed…

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  20. I’m having a bonfire at home tonight.

    I’m burning all my Rod Stewart’s records after hearing him singing the praises of the gaunt one. He loves her smile.

    I suspect he needs to go to Spec Savers.

    Interesting that he communicates with Jethro who is really becoming the go to spokesperson for Ardern. I’m waiting for Jethro to appear wearing a frock coat, wig, 3 corner hat and sniffing snuff. Me Lord Gaylord…

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